The Glenn Beck Program - July 01, 2024


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Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Missouri) joins us on the Glenn Beck show to talk about the Supreme Court and why she thinks Joe Biden should drop out of the campaign. Bill O'Reilly and Tucker Carlson join us to discuss the possibility of Biden stepping down from the race.

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00:00:30.000 Great program today.
00:00:31.340 We have the great senator from Missouri on with us, who used to be the AG in Missouri,
00:00:37.880 about all of the Supreme Court cases that has happened.
00:00:40.880 And Alan Dershowitz joins us.
00:00:43.200 We also have Bill O'Reilly on.
00:00:44.580 Now, Bill O'Reilly and Tucker Carlson both say that Joe Biden is going to drop out of the race,
00:00:50.440 which makes, I'm torn on it, honestly, what's good politically and what's good for the country.
00:00:56.520 You know, I don't know how to make this decision, but it personally makes me happy because Stu may owe me $3,000.
00:01:05.040 All that and so much more on today's podcast.
00:01:08.800 All right, let me talk to you about the Berna Launcher.
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00:01:20.440 No, you do it because you hope to never use them, but they're there in case.
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00:01:32.880 Because sometimes, let's say you're in a car driving through the city,
00:01:36.020 and now your car is surrounded by Hamas protesters pounding on the glass.
00:01:40.900 Oh, what are you going to do?
00:01:42.060 You going to shoot them?
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00:02:44.600 This is an amazing turn of events from the, I guess, White House, White House spokesperson, Wilfred.
00:02:52.540 I don't have your last name.
00:02:55.280 Hello.
00:02:55.720 Hello.
00:02:56.980 Hi.
00:02:57.880 How are you?
00:03:00.500 May I speak to Rush?
00:03:03.780 Okay, Rush.
00:03:06.260 Let's just say Rush doesn't work here anymore.
00:03:08.560 Mr. Limbaugh.
00:03:10.000 Yes.
00:03:10.420 Hi.
00:03:11.040 Rush, my name is Wilfred, and I'm calling from Sun City, Florida.
00:03:17.240 Yes.
00:03:17.800 Okay.
00:03:18.260 And you're a Biden advisor.
00:03:20.720 Yes.
00:03:21.680 I am one of his campaign spokespersons.
00:03:28.020 Uh-huh.
00:03:28.560 Uh-huh.
00:03:29.060 People.
00:03:29.700 And it's my understanding that you have some inside news of what happened this weekend.
00:03:35.880 Were you there at Camp David with the family?
00:03:40.800 Physicians will not let me be involved in air travel.
00:03:47.920 However...
00:03:48.440 Physicians?
00:03:48.840 Yeah.
00:03:49.840 I've been in close touch with the campaign.
00:03:55.220 Okay.
00:03:55.660 All right.
00:03:55.680 And I've been working in campaigns like this for quite some time.
00:04:05.920 Quite some time.
00:04:06.840 Really.
00:04:07.160 And I watched the debate on the television set.
00:04:12.100 Uh-huh.
00:04:12.800 Yes.
00:04:13.140 And I...
00:04:15.680 And look, did Joe Biden have a good night?
00:04:21.260 No.
00:04:21.800 No.
00:04:22.400 No.
00:04:22.900 No.
00:04:23.160 He didn't.
00:04:23.680 No.
00:04:24.100 He...
00:04:24.740 It...
00:04:25.620 It was...
00:04:27.400 Look, it was a catastrophe.
00:04:29.520 Let's be honest.
00:04:30.320 Right.
00:04:30.880 Okay.
00:04:31.520 Okay.
00:04:31.640 Okay.
00:04:31.960 It was like a time I tried to make a move on Ethel at the prom. 0.59
00:04:38.920 Ethel.
00:04:39.980 What happened there?
00:04:41.900 Well, she... 1.00
00:04:43.060 She seemed to be into it, but she had so many layers of pantaloons. 0.65
00:04:48.040 And I was unable to get to the conclusion of the evening, and the sun came up.
00:04:56.800 I was still trying to remove layers.
00:04:59.000 Right.
00:05:00.460 Okay.
00:05:01.220 All right.
00:05:01.580 So, Wilbur, we're really looking, uh, we're looking towards the future here on, uh, whether
00:05:07.240 he is going to drop out, uh, from the campaign, or, I mean, what, what, what has been decided?
00:05:12.880 Well, the first thing that was decided was that his entire campaign would now be sponsored
00:05:19.320 by Prevagen.
00:05:22.100 We think that the donations from the Prevagen Corporation, and really, if we fill him up
00:05:29.500 to make his internal digestive systems approximately 80% Prevagen, we believe multiple sentences
00:05:39.700 will come out.
00:05:41.440 Really?
00:05:42.360 Really?
00:05:42.960 Together, yes.
00:05:43.880 Right.
00:05:44.380 Okay.
00:05:44.940 All right.
00:05:45.440 So, there are decisions we could make, but this is similar to when I worked on the Fillmore
00:05:51.420 campaign.
00:05:52.780 Of what?
00:05:54.660 The who campaign?
00:05:56.000 The Fillmore campaign.
00:05:57.440 Millard Fillmore.
00:05:58.080 So, when, when we, when I was working.
00:06:02.000 What?
00:06:03.260 When I was working on.
00:06:04.360 I'm sorry to, I'm just trying to remember what year that might have been.
00:06:07.560 I, I can't remember.
00:06:08.760 Oh, he was, well, he was, he was lucky 13th, 13th president.
00:06:14.320 And I was.
00:06:16.120 Okay, good.
00:06:17.120 All right, go ahead.
00:06:18.400 And I was working with him on messaging.
00:06:21.880 And it was difficult because, for example, we, we didn't have really electricity at pretty
00:06:28.440 much at that point.
00:06:29.700 And we were trying to communicate to the people.
00:06:33.560 Now, Fillmore was a much better communicator than Joe Biden, obviously.
00:06:39.040 Right, right, sure.
00:06:40.560 But he also beat Medicare.
00:06:44.200 And I'm, I think that's a good thing for him to come back to.
00:06:48.340 Joe Biden beat Medicare.
00:06:51.020 And Millard Fillmore.
00:06:55.240 Yes.
00:06:55.680 Millard Fillmore did as well.
00:06:57.140 And I, I think he could stand on that.
00:06:59.360 Okay.
00:06:59.480 By the way, is this, is this, am I speaking with Don?
00:07:03.540 Is this Mr. I?
00:07:04.360 Don.
00:07:05.980 No, he's, uh, let's just say Don doesn't work here anymore either.
00:07:10.340 I listen every day, Don.
00:07:12.180 Yeah.
00:07:12.500 All right.
00:07:12.960 All right.
00:07:13.440 Good.
00:07:13.640 And I will say, I just, I'm concerned that Joe Biden may come off as too youthful for the
00:07:23.720 American people.
00:07:24.060 Too youthful.
00:07:24.840 I don't know if you've noticed lately, but the American people love old candidates.
00:07:32.140 They don't want people who are coherent.
00:07:35.760 When is the last time you watched a Sunday show and, and saw someone?
00:07:45.220 Are you there?
00:07:47.600 Are you there?
00:07:48.980 Hold on one moment.
00:07:54.840 You have that out?
00:07:58.540 Are you all right?
00:08:02.680 All right.
00:08:03.620 We may have to come back to, we may have to come back to Wilford a little bit later.
00:08:09.420 Just remember, Hedy, this is Hedy Lamar.
00:08:13.880 Am I right?
00:08:15.420 Yes.
00:08:16.200 Yes, you are.
00:08:16.760 I have been a huge fan of your show, Hedy, since it began.
00:08:20.700 And when you and Marconi were doing that one shit together.
00:08:25.440 All right.
00:08:25.720 We're going to, we're going to, we're going to let you go now.
00:08:28.240 But thanks for calling in from the Biden, from the Biden team.
00:08:34.280 That's Wilford.
00:08:35.880 And hang up the phone.
00:08:39.000 Just all you have to do is just hang it up.
00:08:43.800 Maybe, maybe, maybe a while.
00:08:45.820 Let's move on.
00:08:46.560 Shall we, let me, let's just talk a little bit about what the Biden campaign did come
00:08:52.000 out and say this weekend.
00:08:53.780 They said that Joe Biden was over-prepared and relying on minutia when all that mattered
00:09:00.520 was vigor and energy.
00:09:02.940 Apparently, one person with the White House said they prepared him for the wrong debate.
00:09:10.340 I don't know which debate he would have been good at, but they prepared him for the wrong
00:09:14.100 debate.
00:09:14.400 He was over-prepared when what he needed was a rest.
00:09:20.160 So, so we have, so we have that going for us.
00:09:23.620 I don't know about you, Stu, but I saw, yeah, when that rings true to me, when I think back
00:09:28.720 to what happened last week, I think over-prepared.
00:09:31.620 Too much preparedness.
00:09:33.260 Too many facts right at his fingertips.
00:09:35.200 Too many.
00:09:35.700 That was the problem.
00:09:37.340 Right.
00:09:38.040 Mm-hmm.
00:09:38.520 He was like, you know, I've got all the minutia here and nobody wants to talk about it.
00:09:42.380 Yeah, I mean, that is a common issue and actually does happen to candidates, right?
00:09:47.420 It just didn't happen in that debate.
00:09:49.540 No, that's not what it was.
00:09:50.680 No, no.
00:09:51.160 Yeah, sometimes you get these candidates that are out there giving you a million facts and
00:09:54.120 figures and giving you an Excel spreadsheet in debate form, and that doesn't work very
00:09:58.140 well.
00:09:58.620 Yeah.
00:09:58.940 Which is why, you know, you go back and you tell that story all the time of Roger Ailes
00:10:01.920 and Reagan, where like, hey, focus on the five big themes.
00:10:05.340 Bring it back to one of the things that you believe that you can defend easily and let
00:10:09.120 people give a broad, hopeful vision for the future.
00:10:12.300 That was not the issue here.
00:10:13.660 That was not the issue.
00:10:15.020 The issue was the man is incoherent.
00:10:17.420 Everybody has known it for many, many years, and it was just fully on display that night.
00:10:22.100 Well, he also had a cold, sore throat.
00:10:24.560 And you know what sore throats can do.
00:10:26.640 Sometimes sore throats will make you...
00:10:28.280 I couldn't hear him.
00:10:34.400 Sorry, I've got a sore throat.
00:10:36.760 You hear that all the time from people.
00:10:39.060 I couldn't hear him, but he was on a microphone, right?
00:10:41.900 He wasn't like yelling to the other side like they had...
00:10:44.660 You know, sometimes you think you have your headphones in and like maybe you're doing
00:10:48.880 a Zoom call and you've actually had your computer speaker on, maybe it's too far away, so you're
00:10:52.820 a little distant.
00:10:53.900 That's what it was like.
00:10:55.060 I was in a room where we had, in a television studio doing coverage, and we had speakers
00:11:00.280 on, on the floor.
00:11:01.220 And I couldn't hear some of his responses because he was so terrible at projecting his
00:11:06.360 voice.
00:11:07.060 These are basics.
00:11:07.820 This has nothing to do with too many facts and figures.
00:11:10.360 Yeah, and it also has, you know, some...
00:11:12.080 I don't mean to bring up age, but it also has something to do with your age.
00:11:15.740 You're starting to lose your hearing, clearly.
00:11:17.080 Now, the other thing that happened at the White House this weekend is they did admit that
00:11:25.660 the president is sharpest between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m.
00:11:33.140 So, and this was out of that time period, you know?
00:11:37.180 He's sharpest between 10 and 4.
00:11:39.500 That's when we can get answers.
00:11:41.260 God forbid there's a 3 a.m. phone call.
00:11:44.160 No, can you call back between 10 and 4?
00:11:47.080 We don't have the president.
00:11:49.600 It is sharpest right now.
00:11:51.980 So, that's good.
00:11:54.060 Steve Krakauer called it the 18-6 intermittent presidency.
00:11:57.860 It's like intermittent fasting, except you're ruling the free world.
00:12:03.080 That's not a good format for success.
00:12:06.200 Yeah, no, not good.
00:12:07.660 Not good.
00:12:08.160 But, you know, here's the other thing that I really enjoyed.
00:12:10.780 Ro Khanna, a representative, a Democrat from California, said, don't worry about this.
00:12:17.680 And I'm quoting, we have a great team of people that will help him govern.
00:12:25.180 Excuse me?
00:12:26.780 What?
00:12:27.000 Glenn, as a person who studied the history of our founding, is that our system of government?
00:12:36.000 Ruling by committee?
00:12:37.300 No.
00:12:37.560 No?
00:12:38.320 No.
00:12:38.720 That's not a...
00:12:39.320 No, uh-uh.
00:12:39.820 A secret cabal of people behind the scenes using the president as a puppet?
00:12:45.560 No.
00:12:45.900 That's really...
00:12:46.460 No?
00:12:46.480 That's not what we...
00:12:47.080 No.
00:12:47.520 That is big in the puppet industry.
00:12:50.140 You know what I mean?
00:12:50.840 Mm-hmm.
00:12:51.080 Puppeteers, they make a lot of money.
00:12:53.600 Sometimes, you know, they're back behind the curtain pulling the strings.
00:12:57.200 But that's generally left to puppeteers and George Soros.
00:13:02.100 Not our system of government.
00:13:03.820 No.
00:13:04.080 How similar, Glenn, is this to the Woodrow Wilson situation?
00:13:08.340 When he had the stroke and his wife was basically running the nation?
00:13:11.240 Absolutely.
00:13:11.700 How close?
00:13:12.420 Absolutely the same.
00:13:13.520 Absolutely the same.
00:13:14.900 All we don't have, Jill Biden jamming a pen into his hand
00:13:20.540 and signing the name, using his hand with hers over it,
00:13:24.780 signing Woodrow Wilson.
00:13:26.040 That we know of.
00:13:27.400 That we know of.
00:13:29.080 That we know of.
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00:13:31.720 No.
00:13:33.140 Full stop.
00:13:33.760 Not at all.
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00:14:55.600 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:14:58.040 You know, today is the kind of day that you miss people like Bill O'Reilly.
00:15:04.360 And I don't say that lightly, you know, or often.
00:15:07.600 But you miss the days where you could flip on the news
00:15:10.800 and you would have a guy who, you know, is credible
00:15:13.700 and would have some sources or, you know,
00:15:17.840 he would just at least know because of his contacts
00:15:21.700 what's really going on in Washington, D.C.
00:15:24.160 Well, Bill O'Reilly at BillO'Reilly.com.
00:15:26.560 Today's going to be one of the shows that you really are going to miss.
00:15:30.480 You'll miss a lot if you don't see it.
00:15:32.220 He's on with us now.
00:15:33.300 He tweeted,
00:15:34.760 The decision has been made.
00:15:36.300 The president will quit the campaign.
00:15:38.620 Now, he tweeted that yesterday.
00:15:42.100 Bill O'Reilly joins me now.
00:15:43.460 Hello, Bill.
00:15:45.280 Who is this?
00:15:46.380 Glenn?
00:15:46.760 Glenn who?
00:15:47.820 Glenn Beck?
00:15:48.600 Wow.
00:15:49.620 Wow.
00:15:50.020 I got my first name.
00:15:51.400 Bill O'Reilly.
00:15:52.140 That's a first to use my first name.
00:15:54.640 That's the first time.
00:15:55.640 I was too, Beck.
00:15:56.440 I haven't talked to you in a while.
00:15:58.320 I know.
00:15:58.840 I'm great.
00:15:59.340 I'm great.
00:15:59.980 I saw your tweet, and then I think you reached out to me,
00:16:03.700 and then I reached right back out because I was going to reach out to you.
00:16:06.420 All right.
00:16:07.120 Spill the beans.
00:16:08.060 What do you know?
00:16:08.660 Okay.
00:16:10.160 So, the two people in charge of this are Barack Obama and Ron Klain,
00:16:16.260 the former chief of staff of Joe Biden, for the first two years.
00:16:21.880 So, they huddled, and they actually talked to Joe.
00:16:26.660 I don't know whether it was on Zoom or in New York.
00:16:31.000 Obama was in New York at a fundraiser, and so was Biden.
00:16:36.700 But it's really tamped out.
00:16:39.420 And both Klain and Obama, and this is what my tweet was,
00:16:44.840 I've decided that it's over.
00:16:48.100 So, when I say that, what does that mean?
00:16:52.360 It means that the two most powerful men in the Democratic Party right now,
00:16:57.420 they are the two most powerful people, have said to Biden, you can't win.
00:17:05.300 You cannot beat Trump, and he's the devil.
00:17:07.700 So, he's evil.
00:17:09.280 So, if you don't get out, you are helping evil.
00:17:16.160 That's how it is.
00:17:17.060 Hang on just a second.
00:17:17.640 Hang on just a second.
00:17:18.260 I don't think that would phase Joe Biden.
00:17:22.880 He knows that.
00:17:23.440 He's got a son.
00:17:23.980 Anyway, this reminds me of Nixon, where the tables turned on Nixon, and he lost the support of key members of the Senate.
00:17:33.460 They walked in and said, you got to go.
00:17:35.780 You got to go.
00:17:36.900 Now, are they going to offer any carrot or stick if he doesn't go?
00:17:40.280 Well, that's an excellent analysis, Beck.
00:17:45.240 You got a lot of smartness in the last talk.
00:17:48.320 I was just worried about it.
00:17:49.180 Well, it's kind of much older.
00:17:51.660 But it is very, very similar.
00:17:54.540 So, the Nixon people were telling the American public, oh, he's not going anywhere.
00:18:01.280 This is just, yeah, he made a couple of mistakes, but, you know, he's a great president, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:09.480 But behind the scenes, the Republicans are saying, hey, if you don't get out, they're going to arrest you.
00:18:17.200 They're going to arrest you.
00:18:18.180 They're going to charge you with crimes.
00:18:21.320 And that's why Nixon went to the helicopter and waved to everybody.
00:18:24.760 Now, it's being presented to Biden, if you don't get out, you're going to get down in history as a villain.
00:18:33.020 Because Trump is going to win.
00:18:34.320 And it's going to be all your fault, 100%.
00:18:36.940 Now, Biden, as you rightly pointed out, he's not capable anymore of actually digesting that.
00:18:45.840 So, it's his wife that's making all the calls. 0.93
00:18:49.320 So, they go to Camp David over the weekend.
00:18:51.680 They're still there.
00:18:52.300 I think their helicopter shows up in about 20 minutes.
00:18:55.560 All right?
00:18:56.120 And she is going, no way.
00:18:59.400 No way we're leaving.
00:19:01.240 We're fighting this to the end.
00:19:03.380 Jill Biden.
00:19:04.680 Jill Biden's just sitting there, you know, eating his sugar-frosted flakes.
00:19:09.700 He didn't have anything to do with this.
00:19:12.140 So, the fight now is between the party elders and Jill Biden,
00:19:18.360 who's digging it in and saying, no, no, Joe does everything I tell him to do,
00:19:24.360 and he's not going to leave because we think we can overcome this.
00:19:27.900 Now, let me give you the reason that they're not going to overcome it.
00:19:32.960 Okay?
00:19:33.260 That the Bidens will leave.
00:19:34.880 And they may leave very quickly, by the way.
00:19:36.860 They're trying to figure out now, the Democrats, when to make this announcement.
00:19:41.420 All right?
00:19:42.100 They've got to obviously get the Bidens on board.
00:19:44.920 But they also have got to go to some kind of plan B.
00:19:49.860 All right?
00:19:50.440 So, we're going to go to the convention with these people.
00:19:52.920 They don't have that yet.
00:19:54.940 Okay?
00:19:55.500 Well, how do they do that and say they respect democracy?
00:19:59.600 I mean, there's no way to do that.
00:20:01.780 No, no.
00:20:02.280 Yes, there is.
00:20:02.980 Oh, absolutely there is.
00:20:04.200 Oh, well, there's the superdelegates.
00:20:07.560 Yeah.
00:20:07.900 All Biden has to do is say, I'm retiring for health reasons, which you're going to see.
00:20:13.160 And I'm going to give my delegates to whomever the party wants.
00:20:19.820 And then Biden will be totally out of it.
00:20:21.720 And they'll tell him, give the delegates to Kamala, to Newsom, to Whitmer, whatever.
00:20:28.180 And it's not that complicated.
00:20:30.040 LBJ did it.
00:20:31.540 And it's ironic because he did it.
00:20:33.880 And then the convention was in Chicago, and all hell broke loose in 68.
00:20:38.600 Well, where's the Democratic convention this year?
00:20:41.440 Chicago, and all hell is going to break loose.
00:20:43.700 You bet.
00:20:44.300 All the anarchists and the pro-Hamas people are going to be there.
00:20:47.840 Okay?
00:20:48.040 Okay, so the reason that this is, in my opinion, but it's more than an opinion, incontrovertible is that Biden's support was thin to begin with.
00:21:03.000 He doesn't have, he doesn't have a core support.
00:21:06.340 It's all hate Trump support.
00:21:08.600 Yes.
00:21:09.240 Okay?
00:21:10.160 And so that there aren't many Democrats, if you believe the CBS poll, that care if Biden's the nominee.
00:21:19.200 They don't have an emotional investment in Biden.
00:21:22.520 Correct.
00:21:22.980 They just want to see Trump lose.
00:21:25.300 That's huge.
00:21:26.320 So he doesn't have a cadre of people outside of Jill and maybe Hunter, or I don't know, but he doesn't have that.
00:21:35.880 He doesn't have Congress.
00:21:37.340 I mean, the Congress people are running around undermining the hell out of him.
00:21:42.300 And his own people.
00:21:44.940 You saw Jamie Raskin do that.
00:21:47.840 My God.
00:21:48.480 So he doesn't have a core support in Congress or among the folks.
00:21:56.140 They say they raised a lot of money from the debate.
00:21:58.840 I'm suspect, but I don't think they're going to raise a lot of money going forward.
00:22:02.880 Right?
00:22:03.400 Okay.
00:22:03.740 So, Joe, so, Bill, who do you think is most likely to replace him?
00:22:12.040 All right.
00:22:12.480 I don't know, but I will tell you who wants it.
00:22:16.220 So Kamala wants it. 1.00
00:22:17.500 Kamala's not going to go quietly into the night.
00:22:20.720 And she'll play the race card. 0.74
00:22:22.980 Okay?
00:22:24.800 Gender and race card, that's what she's got. 1.00
00:22:27.080 She'll play it.
00:22:28.760 Newsom, I understand, just ordered hair products a lot more.
00:22:35.360 Right.
00:22:36.600 He obviously wants it.
00:22:39.140 Whitmer in Michigan wants it.
00:22:41.880 All right.
00:22:42.100 So those are three right there.
00:22:43.640 Now, they would like...
00:22:45.420 What about Big Mike?
00:22:47.500 What about Big Mike?
00:22:49.240 What about Big Mike?
00:22:51.040 Big Mike.
00:22:53.020 Who's Big Mike?
00:22:54.900 That would be Michelle Obama.
00:22:56.920 It would be Michelle Obama.
00:22:57.800 Big Mike.
00:22:59.000 I'm sorry, Beck.
00:23:00.340 I didn't get the Big Mike reference.
00:23:03.280 Yeah, well...
00:23:04.160 I have never in my 50-year careers in journalism seen any famous person locked down like Michelle Obama.
00:23:15.460 You can't get a whisper out of that anywhere.
00:23:20.580 So, obviously, that would be the savior, right?
00:23:26.200 Yeah.
00:23:26.700 But there isn't any indication one way or the other that she wants to do it.
00:23:33.840 And those of us who know Michelle Obama, and I know her a little bit, she is a very strong woman.
00:23:40.320 Barack Obama is not going to go in there and go, hey, Michelle, you're running.
00:23:43.360 No.
00:23:44.900 No, no.
00:23:46.180 You don't say that to Big Mike.
00:23:48.420 Listen, let me ask you, Bill.
00:23:51.840 Let's not talk politics.
00:23:54.340 Let's talk security of the country.
00:23:57.720 First, who's running the country right now?
00:24:04.640 And...
00:24:05.040 Go ahead.
00:24:07.640 The three guys there in the White House.
00:24:10.580 The chief of staff.
00:24:12.380 The national security guy.
00:24:14.880 That's the Irish guy.
00:24:18.080 Yeah, yeah, look at this.
00:24:19.320 This is what we voted for.
00:24:20.640 The Irish guy.
00:24:22.200 Right.
00:24:22.940 I'm more...
00:24:24.040 Jake Sullivan.
00:24:26.420 Thank you very much, everybody.
00:24:29.220 And his counsels.
00:24:31.640 But it is a triumvirate in the White House.
00:24:34.180 Nobody ever heard of these people.
00:24:36.380 They get no pub.
00:24:37.960 It's all there once in a while to go out, but not often.
00:24:41.020 And there's an alert, by the way, a very serious alert, on U.S. bases overseas and embassies about a terror attack.
00:24:49.180 Very serious.
00:24:50.780 So we have an incapacitated president.
00:24:54.160 Go ahead.
00:24:56.420 You're right.
00:24:57.980 We have an incapacitated president.
00:25:00.040 What the heck?
00:25:01.940 You know, who ordered our nuclear sub to surface in the Norwegian Sea this weekend to send a message?
00:25:09.580 I mean, and it's kind of important to know who's actually running the show there, because we're on the verge of war if we're stupid.
00:25:21.420 And I can't gauge who's actually making the decisions.
00:25:26.640 Should the president step down from the presidency?
00:25:29.740 Yeah, that would be Sullivan.
00:25:32.540 Okay.
00:25:34.240 Look, this is a very, very chaotic White House.
00:25:40.520 You know, I got a book coming up confronting the presidents where we evaluate every president.
00:25:45.420 And I sent that to you, and I'm going to hire someone to read it to you.
00:25:49.760 I'm going to pay somebody to follow you around and read you this book, because it's unbelievable about the difference in some presidents.
00:26:00.140 And Biden's the second worst president in our history.
00:26:04.540 And Trump exaggerates saying he's the worst.
00:26:07.200 Nobody's worse than James Buchanan, who actually lit the fuse of the Civil War.
00:26:12.240 But Biden is the second.
00:26:16.020 And it is so, to me, because I do know what's happening on a day-to-day basis in that White House.
00:26:23.920 This man, there are three out of five days, and Axios has about 50 percent of this right today.
00:26:31.600 He's not even in the Oval Office.
00:26:34.640 He didn't even make it down from the residents.
00:26:37.480 That's how incapacitated he is.
00:26:39.420 And Jill Biden makes that call.
00:26:43.080 If you look at his schedule, and on the No Spin News, my TV broadcast, we report it every day.
00:26:49.000 Most of the time, he has nothing on his schedule but a fundraiser where he reads a teleprompter.
00:26:54.540 That's it.
00:26:56.000 He doesn't do anything.
00:26:58.520 And everybody in his administration knows this, which is why, after the debate catastrophe,
00:27:06.320 it's just unbelievably shocking that they won't tell the truth to the American public.
00:27:13.800 The Democratic Party will not tell the truth.
00:27:16.900 This has been going on for a year.
00:27:19.080 This doesn't just happen.
00:27:20.380 Okay, last question.
00:27:23.660 I've got to get this in.
00:27:25.120 Is this better or worse for Donald Trump if Biden leaves?
00:27:32.080 Does it change it enough to change the game and people will just then say,
00:27:39.160 well, I'm just going to go with somebody new?
00:27:40.740 Um, Trump would defeat Joe Biden now, no question.
00:27:49.180 That's number one.
00:27:50.440 No question.
00:27:51.780 Right.
00:27:52.240 He beats Biden.
00:27:54.580 If Biden, when Biden steps aside, if it's Michelle Obama, that's formidable for Trump.
00:28:04.920 That's trouble.
00:28:05.540 Anyone else, he can barely handle it at this point.
00:28:11.080 Because remember, Trump got 72 million votes in 2020.
00:28:17.380 I estimate the most he could lose on the 72 million would be 10%.
00:28:23.520 That brings him out of 65 million.
00:28:27.300 Biden's nowhere, going to get nowhere near that.
00:28:29.940 We lost him.
00:28:39.040 Gosh darn it.
00:28:40.240 I don't know what he was just saying, and I don't know if he does.
00:28:44.560 No, I'm just kidding.
00:28:45.480 That's Bill O'Reilly.
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00:28:54.460 Bill, as always, thank you for joining us.
00:28:55.940 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:29:01.760 Direct to a relative of John Jacob Jingleheimer-Smith, as we found out on an episode earlier, Senator Eric Schmidt from Missouri is with us.
00:29:11.960 Eric, what happened with SCOTUS last week?
00:29:15.140 Well, they punted, essentially, on the Missouri v. Biden, which became the Murphy v. Missouri lawsuit that made it to the Supreme Court.
00:29:25.820 And essentially, what the lower court had said was an Orwellian vast censorship enterprise made its way to the court.
00:29:33.020 And what the court essentially did was they kicked it back to the lower court because they said the plaintiffs couldn't prove standing, meaning, and Justice Barrett wrote this part, that you would have to show that this was going to continue into the future.
00:29:46.800 So take that for what it is.
00:29:49.180 They certainly didn't say that this didn't happen, Glenn.
00:29:52.260 And I think, like, if you're looking for what this case truly represents in a broader context, you've got to go back in time into May 2022 when we filed it, which was before Elon Musk bought Twitter.
00:30:05.400 It was before the Twitter files.
00:30:07.760 It's before we really started to learn the extent of all of the censorship.
00:30:12.120 And when I filed it, we had some idea because you had, at the time, Jen Psaki standing at the podium gleefully saying, we're flagging this stuff.
00:30:20.860 You know, so I think it's important to remember where we were at.
00:30:23.620 And it exposed all of this.
00:30:26.180 I also think what it does, too, Glenn, is it probably shows us that there needs to be another kind of remedy for this sort of thing.
00:30:35.280 Like, there needs to be, in addition to just saying, the court saying, you can't do this anymore, there need to actually be real damages here.
00:30:43.560 And so that, I think, is a good segue into what we should do next in legislation that I have filed, which is twofold.
00:30:50.920 So, one, on the social media companies themselves, if they're engaged in this kind of activity, because under Section 230, the legal protections they were giving them to the 1996 Telecommunications Act, essentially what Congress said is, okay, Internet people, platforms, you're going to be an open platform.
00:31:11.720 Therefore, we're not going to hold you to the same standard, legal standard of, you know, sort of you can get sued for libel or, you know, you can get sued for any of the things that people might be able to sue CBS News or a traditional publisher for.
00:31:25.720 So, they get this blanket protection because they're just supposed to be kind of an open source platform.
00:31:31.180 That's not really what's happening right now, right?
00:31:33.220 So, if they're found to be, if somebody sues, if Glenn Beck were to sue or something, and say, you know, this was, you know, you are censoring because it's a viewpoint discrimination or some sort of thing like that, that you lose your Section 230 protections.
00:31:48.340 So, they've got to choose.
00:31:49.800 Do they want to be a publisher or do they want to be an open platform?
00:31:53.280 The second piece, and I actually think it's maybe perhaps the most important piece for the things that you and I care about the most, which is the government's role in all of this, is that you provide a private right of action.
00:32:04.040 So, you can sue an individual government actor for violating your First Amendment rights.
00:32:11.000 I think that changes the incentive structure for these bureaucrats who right now think they can just sort of get away with this by labeling everything misinformation or disinformation.
00:32:19.920 So, if they have something on the line themselves, it's a culture change, and that's what I'm going to be working on moving forward here.
00:32:27.620 Do you think you have enough support or will in the next season of Congress and the Senate?
00:32:36.780 Yeah, I think we have to take the majority, obviously.
00:32:40.100 But I do think this stuff has been exposed.
00:32:42.240 I was actually thinking about you last week, and so it's good that I'm on the show.
00:32:47.640 I was thinking about when I think when it may have been the first time I met you, it was at an AG event, and you had that compass from Washington, right?
00:32:57.220 And it had worn, I remember getting to hold it in my hand, and it sort of, you know, his thumb was on it as he's surveying property in Virginia and kind of knowing north from south.
00:33:08.740 I think what's happened in the last week, if you tie it into this debate that happened last week, I think that in the largest context, when people look back, let's say 20, 30, 40, 50 years from now, I think what's happened in the last year or two, and COVID was the sort of harbinger of all this.
00:33:27.600 All of the lies have been exposed now, right?
00:33:32.440 Like, these are the same people who are now shocked, you know, oh, Biden needs to be replaced.
00:33:37.720 These are the same people who have lied to you about, these aren't political prosecutions, the same people that lied to you about COVID, the same people who've lied time and time again, who tell you the economy is just fine, and that look at the numbers, they're great, and you shouldn't believe you're lying on what's happening in your own life.
00:33:57.020 They're the same people who lied about the Hunter Biden laptop theory.
00:34:00.760 So this kind of, call it, you know, administrative state, deep state, whatever you want to call it, there's people so invested, Glenn, in Biden remaining so they can keep doing what they want to do without any accountability.
00:34:13.560 And I think that is a call to action.
00:34:16.060 I think that the Missouri versus Biden case helped expose it.
00:34:19.560 It's not the only thing, but it was part of it.
00:34:21.120 And so I think we're turning the corner.
00:34:23.300 If I'm being optimistic, if I'm holding on to Washington's compass, I think that's the fight.
00:34:28.960 That's the fight for us now moving forward.
00:34:31.740 All right.
00:34:32.320 So tell me about a couple of other things.
00:34:34.200 The Supreme Court has downgraded the insurrection now to trespassing.
00:34:40.380 Can you go into that ruling, which is Fisher versus the U.S.?
00:34:46.300 Yeah, I mean, look, I think the takeaway here is that the government was overzealous with all of this, right?
00:34:53.840 And when you're dealing with criminal prosecutions, you're supposed to have, you know, the government isn't supposed to get the benefit of the doubt on a lot of this stuff.
00:35:02.820 Which is why, again, I went up to Manhattan and saw that trial, the Alvin Bragg Soviet-style show trial, which is why that case, I think, is so riddled with reversible error.
00:35:15.740 The judge actually – and the Supreme Court ruled on something else a couple weeks earlier saying, no, you actually have to have a universal agreement among the jury of what the actual crime is.
00:35:25.640 Right?
00:35:26.440 Like, this seems like a very basic civil protection for people if you're going to have your liberty taken away from you, right?
00:35:33.980 Like, the jury actually has to agree what the crime is.
00:35:37.500 And Judge Bershon said you don't have to do that.
00:35:41.440 And so that, in addition to not allowing testimony from somebody who was going to say from the FEC that this is not even a – you know, the underlying crime, I guess, that you're alleging isn't even really a crime.
00:35:52.360 So I think that that was sort of an important protection.
00:35:55.200 Of course, I'll never forget coming on your show talking about the Chevron case, and you came in with some, like, very white, sexy music talking about Chevron when we were –
00:36:08.420 Well, I was going to get to that here in a second.
00:36:10.260 Yeah.
00:36:11.960 Because the Chevron deference is – I mean, this is – honestly, that's – it's – I mean, it's constitutional porn.
00:36:18.380 It really is.
00:36:19.220 Because you're – and they have overturned the Chevron doctrine, not for the past, but for anything future, which does what?
00:36:32.120 Talk to me.
00:36:32.560 Yeah, so this is a big one.
00:36:33.620 So we talk about turning the corner and what this can all mean, right, moving forward.
00:36:38.040 So for a very long time, what courts have been able to do through Chevron deference is that if they claim something is ambiguous, if there's something ambiguous in some agency –
00:36:50.040 Yeah.
00:36:51.380 There it is.
00:36:51.940 Go ahead.
00:36:52.440 Keep talking.
00:36:53.140 Keep talking.
00:36:53.960 Keep talking, baby.
00:36:54.860 There's some agency, Glenn.
00:36:56.100 Oh, yeah.
00:36:56.900 Ding dong.
00:36:57.920 Ding dong.
00:36:58.620 That has an interpretation that they think is, quote, unquote, reasonable.
00:37:04.000 That's it.
00:37:04.960 And so we did sort of an analysis.
00:37:07.120 The vast majority of these calls then when they were being – you know, if anybody was being challenged, the government won, the agency won, the bureaucrat that you never heard of won.
00:37:15.360 And so even though the Congress never actually said this is what we want to have happen, so it's a very important piece of returning power back to the Article I branch, you know, where people are elected, and saying we're not going to give this sort of deference to these agencies anymore.
00:37:32.800 Now, it doesn't completely go away.
00:37:34.880 So essentially, not to get too nerdy on this stuff, it's probably something like what's referred to as Skidmore, which is they can have an opinion about it, but ultimately the court isn't going to bend over backwards.
00:37:45.360 And agree with the agency just because they're the, quote, unquote, experts.
00:37:50.980 But this also does – and I had an op-ed last week right when this came out because we were hoping that this would happen.
00:37:56.620 It does put the onus, I think, on Congress now to actually do something.
00:38:01.680 And there's three things I think we should do.
00:38:04.360 The first is I think we should codify saying still with these rules, if you're going to propose a new rule, pull back three first.
00:38:11.200 I think that would be an important first step, or maybe five or ten or two, whatever your number is, but just sort of change the culture.
00:38:18.100 The second piece is we ought to have a de novo standard of review.
00:38:23.040 What is that?
00:38:23.700 It means that there's no deference at all.
00:38:25.660 We don't even really care.
00:38:26.880 It's totally up to the courts to decide now, is this what congressional intent was?
00:38:31.300 The agencies are sort of cut out of this.
00:38:33.580 They are still executing the law.
00:38:35.300 They still have a role, but then opining over things that they created and then deciding that that's what's going to be moving forward, that has to end entirely.
00:38:44.760 Thirdly, the RAINS Act I think is perhaps the most structural reform we could put into place, which is to say if you think it's such a good idea, this rule that you're proposing Congress has to vote on.
00:38:57.040 So if you want to ban gas stoves because you think it falls under some statute that nobody ever intended for that to mean, then Congress should vote on it.
00:39:06.460 We should have to vote on it, and then you can judge us by our votes.
00:39:09.760 I think that would be a transformative kind of reform.
00:39:13.380 I do think there's growing momentum for it.
00:39:15.240 I think that this decision now, because it puts it more squarely, we have to be more prescriptive in how we write statutes, which is a good thing.
00:39:23.760 There's going to be a lot more discussion now, so I'm sort of helping lead a working group in the Senate.
00:39:30.580 Those other show favorites, I'm sure, Mike Lee, others will be involved in this and kind of figuring out what we should do moving forward to reign in the administrative state, because this has given us an opening now, for sure.
00:39:42.460 Let me go to Stu real quick.
00:39:44.760 Do we have a decision on the immunity for Donald Trump?
00:39:49.080 Not yet.
00:39:49.560 We have three decisions today.
00:39:50.860 The only one we've had is probably the most boring one, which is the corner post decision, which is about a statute of limitations on challenging agency action.
00:39:59.020 It's actually another good thing for fighting in the administrative state, but it is not the sexy decision.
00:40:04.000 We still have the net choice decision, which is about the social media networks, and then, of course, the Trump immunity still coming.
00:40:10.700 And, Eric, what is the social media network one about?
00:40:14.340 That's about they can't take you off, right?
00:40:20.800 What is it, Stu?
00:40:21.800 I don't remember.
00:40:22.420 They're trying to say, basically, can social media companies remove posts based on the content?
00:40:27.280 A couple of states, Florida and Texas, say, hey, you can't just delete comments because you don't like the content.
00:40:35.140 Social media companies are saying, well, it's our site, so we can do whatever we want with those.
00:40:38.680 That's what's going to be decided here.
00:40:40.060 There's two laws in Florida and Texas. 0.99
00:40:41.400 It could be a split decision, too.
00:40:42.740 It doesn't necessarily have to go the same way for both.
00:40:45.820 And, Eric, doesn't that go back to you're a platform or you're a publisher?
00:40:50.540 Yeah, right.
00:40:51.140 But so far, there's not been anything that's reeled them in, right?
00:40:54.980 They kind of just get to do this stuff and rely on the terms and conditions of their site.
00:40:59.240 But actually, what was also interesting about the Missouri versus Biden lawsuit, Murphy versus Missouri, is what it ends up being, is the government was pressuring them to change their terms of service, right?
00:41:10.740 Right.
00:41:11.680 And they did.
00:41:13.900 And they did.
00:41:14.540 And so I think that I don't know how that case is going to go.
00:41:17.620 I've heard skepticism that the court will side with the states on that.
00:41:21.300 I don't know how that will play out.
00:41:22.960 But I do think that getting at the most important thing we can do is get at the government's role in influencing what these social media companies can do.
00:41:32.940 They are private enterprises.
00:41:34.200 However, they do live by these protections.
00:41:36.520 And I think that you either got to decide, are you going to be a platform or a publisher?
00:41:40.860 And it doesn't matter to me, but you can't have your cake and eat it, too.
00:41:46.180 Agreed.
00:41:46.680 I totally agree.
00:41:48.140 Kagan is right in this opinion, Glenn.
00:41:50.580 So we're still going through it.
00:41:51.860 But, you know, typically a Kagan opinion is not necessarily going to be the way the conservatives want it to go.
00:41:57.380 Right.
00:41:57.820 So, Eric, can you tell us, and this is kind of unfair because I don't know how much you're up on the immunity case that's in front of the Supreme Court.
00:42:05.940 We're expecting word on that at any time.
00:42:08.280 Can you tell me what we're looking for there and what it means?
00:42:13.380 Sure.
00:42:13.860 And, again, I'm not dug into this case as probably as closely as I should be, but I did listen to some of the oral arguments.
00:42:19.980 Actually, my former solicitor, General of Missouri, John Sauer, argued this case, and John's a brilliant guy, clerk for Scalia.
00:42:27.680 So I think there's a reason why this is the last case or one of the last cases they're going to decide because it's a very difficult case for the court
00:42:35.060 and one that they would probably prefer not to have to engage on, but because of Jack Smith's focus on all of this stuff, they're going to have to.
00:42:42.940 And it centers around there's never been a case.
00:42:45.980 They've never actually had to decide this issue about whether or not a president is immune from criminal prosecution, from actions taken while he's in office.
00:42:57.360 Right.
00:42:57.580 And so that's really what this centers on, is Jack Smith's trying to sort of bootstrap anything President Trump did during January 6th into some sort of criminal prosecution.
00:43:07.560 And I think what the court is, I don't know what they're going to do.
00:43:11.980 My guess is they're going to have some sort of an opinion that sets some sort of framework for presidential immunity.
00:43:20.440 It may not be entire, every act is immune, but I think they ought to err on that side of it,
00:43:29.260 because what the founders were really worried about when they were talking about this issue,
00:43:34.580 if you read the Federalist Papers or those documents surrounding the Constitution,
00:43:40.020 they actually were worried about the weaponization of local prosecutors against the president
00:43:47.980 to sort of tie up the president in engaging in his official duties.
00:43:51.880 So, you know, if that's their worldview, Glenn, I think they're going to be very deferential to the idea
00:44:02.400 that presidents, to be president, have to make really difficult decisions,
00:44:06.880 or, by the way, can't engage in political speech, which is ultimately what this case is really all about.
00:44:12.140 There's a bunch of reasons why Jack Smith's case is flawed,
00:44:14.940 but I do think the court's going to settle on some idea that, of course, presidents are immune from criminal prosecution.
00:44:21.880 based on the actions of when they're in office.
00:44:25.780 Eric, thank you so much.
00:44:27.020 Senator Eric Schmidt from the great state of Missouri and a good friend of the program.
00:44:32.380 Thank you for your insight on this. Appreciate it.
00:44:34.820 All right, Glenn.
00:44:35.260 Keep up the good work.
00:44:35.940 Thank you.
00:44:36.180 You bet. Bye-bye.