The Glenn Beck Program - January 31, 2020


Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Bill O'Reilly & Senator Joe Lieberman ｜ 1⧸31⧸20


Episode Stats

Length

57 minutes

Words per Minute

150.25906

Word Count

8,613

Sentence Count

836

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

Joe Lieberman says for the first time he would vote for the impeachment of Donald Trump, we discuss the difference between the Bill Clinton impeachment and the Trump impeachment, we have Bill O'Reilly on, we talk about the coronavirus, which you don't get from beer, believe it or not, but I think it might be a cure this weekend, and also, Daniel Hannon from London, just a few hours away from the official Brexit as they leave the EU, his thoughts on that, on freedom and what America is doing right now and the choices in front of us.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey, welcome to the program. Big day for the impeachment. Witness? No witness? We actually have Joe Lieberman on. He says for the first time how he would vote. We talked about the difference between this impeachment and the impeachment of Bill Clinton. Also, we addressed Trump's peace talk plan. He was fascinating. We have Bill O'Reilly on. We talk a little bit about the coronavirus, which you don't get from beer, believe it or not, but I think it might be a cure. You should try it this weekend.
00:00:28.900 And also, Daniel Hannon from London, just a few hours away from the official Brexit as they leave the European Union. His thoughts on that, on freedom, and what America is doing right now and the choices in front of us. Great. Don't miss podcast begins now.
00:00:58.900 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:01:28.900 Completely moral guy.
00:01:30.660 Mostly.
00:01:31.940 Well, I think he breaks down again around Memorial Day.
00:01:35.720 Around Memorial Day.
00:01:37.200 Well, I mean, who doesn't?
00:01:39.320 Right.
00:01:39.720 You know what I mean?
00:01:40.560 Right.
00:01:40.960 You know, which non-service member of us doesn't just break down around Memorial Day and have to do blow or something, you know, off the belly of hookers?
00:01:52.400 Because that's the way, I think, as Stu says, that's the way Jesus would want it.
00:01:58.520 Now, I disagree with that, but it's Stu.
00:02:02.320 So anyway, Pat, one word in context of today.
00:02:08.780 Romney.
00:02:09.780 Mm-hmm.
00:02:11.000 Mm-hmm.
00:02:12.400 Meaning he may vote for witnesses.
00:02:16.460 May?
00:02:16.740 Well, I want him to, honestly.
00:02:19.200 I just want to get this out.
00:02:21.780 And as you've said several times, Lance, that boil.
00:02:24.160 Okay.
00:02:24.360 They're just going to be relentless if they don't have some sort of witness event happen.
00:02:29.820 I think there are two ways to look at this.
00:02:32.520 And, you know, quite honestly, the way we look at it is the right way.
00:02:39.160 Obviously.
00:02:39.640 All those dummies that disagree with us.
00:02:42.160 Well, you're just plain wrong.
00:02:44.280 There's two ways to look at it.
00:02:45.600 And I think the one way which everybody, including me, is looking at this, you just want it over.
00:02:52.920 Mm-hmm.
00:02:53.380 You know what I mean?
00:02:54.020 Mm-hmm.
00:02:54.240 You know there is nothing to this.
00:02:56.540 And this is John Bolton is another.
00:03:00.620 Oh, the Steele dossier proves it.
00:03:04.360 Oh, Mueller proves it.
00:03:07.420 Oh, my gosh.
00:03:08.820 Vince, I mean, not Vince Flynn, but what's his name?
00:03:12.180 General Flynn.
00:03:13.200 It proves it.
00:03:14.440 Oh, this phone call, it proves it.
00:03:17.060 None of these things.
00:03:18.620 Every time they make them into a big deal and not one of them have made, have moved the needle at all.
00:03:26.020 None of them are what they say it is.
00:03:28.380 Okay?
00:03:28.860 Right.
00:03:29.040 So, when you're looking at John Bolton, I think conservatives generally have supported John Bolton his whole career.
00:03:39.100 Mm-hmm.
00:03:39.260 We like him.
00:03:40.340 Right.
00:03:40.720 We trust him.
00:03:41.740 And I don't want to throw him under the bus.
00:03:44.860 I think he's wrong here on the way he's approached this with the book.
00:03:49.780 Yes.
00:03:50.200 And the way that Democrats have treated him is so hypocritical.
00:03:54.080 Oh, my gosh.
00:03:54.600 They talked about his lack of credibility when, you know, before when he was nominated for the U.N. position.
00:04:01.140 And all along the line, they've hated this guy.
00:04:03.700 And now, all of a sudden, they've got to hear the truth from John Bolton.
00:04:06.600 And John Bolton's the only one that can tell us the truth.
00:04:08.520 Right.
00:04:08.740 And I don't want to play the opposite.
00:04:10.580 He's lying.
00:04:11.600 I don't think John Bolton is lying.
00:04:13.140 I don't think John Bolton has anything real to say.
00:04:16.220 Mm-hmm.
00:04:16.640 Okay?
00:04:17.820 Because I know John Bolton, and I think he is a man of credibility.
00:04:22.440 I think his credibility has been destroyed by him taking a big payday from Simon & Schuster to write a book.
00:04:29.640 Mm-hmm.
00:04:29.880 Now, does he have anything in the book?
00:04:33.080 Here's why it should happen, in my opinion.
00:04:37.460 There's two ways to look at this.
00:04:39.960 There's nothing there.
00:04:41.560 I'm tired of this.
00:04:43.600 Let's move on.
00:04:45.800 Okay?
00:04:46.600 That's all understandable, and I feel that way.
00:04:49.520 However, and wait, there's three ways.
00:04:52.140 Also, the legal way.
00:04:55.120 The president has won his case.
00:04:57.780 No attorney.
00:04:59.380 You know, let's say your job is at stake.
00:05:01.700 Your life is at stake.
00:05:03.840 Your name is at stake.
00:05:05.520 Everything's at stake.
00:05:07.220 And the prosecution comes in with this guy who's like, no, I got Pat Gray.
00:05:12.460 He's going to testify against Glenn.
00:05:14.360 He's got a big book deal coming out in a little while.
00:05:17.360 Oh, they don't want to hear from Pat.
00:05:19.240 It's been his best friend.
00:05:20.740 He's been there for 30 years.
00:05:23.040 What does he have to say?
00:05:25.020 Mm-hmm.
00:05:25.300 Okay?
00:05:26.380 And I'm like, well, geez, Pat has turned on me.
00:05:29.400 Don't worry about it.
00:05:30.180 Pat has nothing.
00:05:31.360 We can take him apart because I know Pat, and I know what Pat has seen, and I can tell
00:05:37.740 you everything about it.
00:05:39.500 No attorney would say, okay, let's do that.
00:05:44.020 You'd say, no, but if it's Pat, my best friend, and he goes off and he's going to release this book, let's at least get him on the stand so I can cross-examine him.
00:05:55.380 Because the media will run all of the book release stuff from him.
00:06:01.580 They will do fawning interviews because they want to destroy me.
00:06:07.720 No one will ask tough questions.
00:06:10.520 And you can do that under the auspices of the trial.
00:06:13.720 Correct.
00:06:14.700 So the way to do it is to have him testify so you can hold his feet to the fire when everyone is watching.
00:06:23.000 And you have all that information out of the way.
00:06:25.060 You've taken care of it now.
00:06:26.380 Now Pat's book is worthless because we've already heard it in the trial.
00:06:31.380 It didn't hurt me.
00:06:33.840 It didn't do anything.
00:06:34.880 So Pat can do whatever he wants, but what are you going to read in his book?
00:06:38.360 We've already heard it all.
00:06:39.920 So it destroys the book.
00:06:41.400 It destroys the book tour because there's nothing new to go over.
00:06:46.320 But if you don't do it, when that book is released, it's a huge event and you have a fawning media that wants John Bolton to be saying bad things about the president.
00:06:59.940 So the Democrats can then say, you know what?
00:07:03.360 Let me tell you this right now.
00:07:05.340 John Bolton, did you see that interview?
00:07:08.300 I hope you didn't watch it too long because there's really nothing there.
00:07:10.780 But I know you didn't watch it so we can spin it this way.
00:07:14.800 And that's the information we had in this president of the Republican Party.
00:07:20.560 They're now stealing this election.
00:07:23.760 That's what will happen.
00:07:25.320 Yeah.
00:07:25.420 But no attorney, if I were Trump's attorney, I would say, end it.
00:07:31.220 End it.
00:07:32.380 You won.
00:07:33.840 Okay?
00:07:34.480 End it right now.
00:07:35.900 Push for acquittal.
00:07:36.920 Do not put another witness on.
00:07:39.200 And if you believe you've won, what are you going to super win by keeping it going even further?
00:07:45.640 Right.
00:07:46.000 No, you're not.
00:07:46.820 Right.
00:07:47.800 But as Nancy Pelosi said, if they don't do the trial, and this is what they're going to hammer the whole year, the whole campaign year.
00:07:54.040 There was no acquittal because they didn't do a trial.
00:07:57.620 They didn't actually do a trial.
00:07:58.940 They didn't actually care about the truth.
00:08:00.880 So they just shut it all down and didn't get to the truth.
00:08:03.860 That's what we're going to hear the whole time, right up to the election.
00:08:07.540 And I just don't want them to have that talking point.
00:08:12.020 Well, there is a way to get rid of that talking point.
00:08:16.920 And I think beside the trial.
00:08:19.560 You could end the trial today.
00:08:20.900 We have something, and I wish I could come out with it today.
00:08:26.140 I mean, I can't tell you how hard I have fought internally.
00:08:29.860 Can we just do this special now?
00:08:33.020 Because I want it out before the trial.
00:08:35.280 But we can't do it.
00:08:36.720 We have certain things that have to fall into place for us to be able to release this.
00:08:41.320 But I am telling you, I read the script last night, and it still has chunks in it that are not buttoned up.
00:08:50.980 But we think we're getting the paperwork to prove it because we've seen it.
00:08:56.260 We just don't have it in hand.
00:08:57.860 And as I'm looking at it and reading this, I looked at my staff last night.
00:09:03.300 I mean, I read it last night with the staff around me.
00:09:06.620 And as I'm reading, it's like 40 pages.
00:09:08.780 And I said, this is the most powerful, special we've ever done.
00:09:15.340 This may be the biggest story we have ever broken.
00:09:19.880 Wow.
00:09:20.200 It is.
00:09:20.900 Wow.
00:09:21.700 It's shocking.
00:09:24.280 And it's much more.
00:09:25.980 The corruption, everything we said that was going on, it all has gone on.
00:09:30.360 But there is a deeper story to it that is, how can I put this without, it is, it is a story that has driven the news on a couple of presidents.
00:09:55.060 And, and I can't, I just can't say, it is a huge, huge story.
00:10:03.700 And it is not about this president.
00:10:06.520 It's about Barack Obama.
00:10:09.400 We found something that the Obama administration was doing that will, will destroy, destroy the Obama administration and its legacy.
00:10:25.800 To the left.
00:10:27.520 You're talking about the scandal free Barack Obama administration?
00:10:30.300 Scandal free.
00:10:30.740 No, this is, this, this will piss the left off.
00:10:33.800 Wow.
00:10:34.560 So much.
00:10:35.640 The left will be like, excuse me.
00:10:38.860 And we're going to expose that.
00:10:41.740 So if they don't do this trial, believe me what we are going to expose next Thursday.
00:10:49.100 And by the way, we're opening it up.
00:10:51.040 It'll be free.
00:10:51.940 We want everybody to see it.
00:10:53.440 It's not going to be behind the paywall.
00:10:54.880 You'll be able to see it on YouTube and Facebook and, and all of our platforms for free, but watch it because it is, you can end this trial.
00:11:08.520 And begin a new trial that must be done.
00:11:14.160 And you're not talking about trying Obama.
00:11:17.140 You're talking about exposing Obama and then exposing all of the people that were involved in it.
00:11:23.860 And it's beyond corruption.
00:11:26.500 And I can't, you'll understand what I mean by that, but it is, it is corrupt, illegal, unconstitutional, but beyond corruption.
00:11:38.020 I thought this was about corruption and power.
00:11:41.560 It is about that with some Hunter Biden is, is involved.
00:11:49.120 His next is into his neck up.
00:11:51.660 Um, but it is, it is, it is the worst that we have seen in the past from presidents, uh, two of which I know, um, uh, went through massive trials in history for this.
00:12:10.040 Um, um, and it is an affront to Congress, the constitution, all of it.
00:12:17.260 So you want to close this down.
00:12:19.640 Great.
00:12:20.240 Close it down.
00:12:21.020 But they must now go back and say, how did this happen?
00:12:25.540 We spent $34 million on, on, uh, a Mueller report.
00:12:30.300 The Mueller report did nothing.
00:12:32.180 Mueller report did nothing, had nothing.
00:12:34.380 This started from before he was even in office.
00:12:38.960 And now this one, how many millions of dollars in time was wasted on this one?
00:12:44.560 What was that really about?
00:12:46.640 And it is not about just protecting Joe Biden.
00:12:51.420 It's really not.
00:12:52.420 And I can lay out the case that that is not what, um, that is not what, uh, Donald Trump was doing.
00:13:02.440 He knows, he knows what was going on.
00:13:06.160 I can take you to all the things in the phone call in the July 25th phone call that didn't make sense.
00:13:11.880 And things that we were like, why would he say that?
00:13:15.260 Now we know we found one piece and we're like, follow that.
00:13:23.160 And it connects all of it.
00:13:25.620 And the timing is beyond dare I use the word perfect.
00:13:32.220 It's beyond perfect.
00:13:34.460 So what do you think happens today, Stu?
00:13:42.920 Or even Pat?
00:13:44.420 I, I think they probably, uh, I think they probably blocked the witnesses.
00:13:49.940 Yeah.
00:13:50.420 I mean, it looked like earlier in the week, they couldn't stop it.
00:13:53.380 Now it looks like they're almost certainly going to.
00:13:56.080 I think because what, I mean, Lamar Alexander came out yesterday and he said.
00:14:00.500 Seen enough.
00:14:01.280 I've seen enough.
00:14:01.940 There's even, no matter what John Bolton says, it's not impeachable.
00:14:06.280 Right.
00:14:06.700 So it doesn't matter.
00:14:07.780 And I like that look at it.
00:14:11.700 I do too.
00:14:12.160 Um, you know, but if it doesn't matter, then why not do it anyway?
00:14:16.800 Other than this, this is dragging it on.
00:14:19.980 But I like that approach.
00:14:22.000 It doesn't matter.
00:14:23.420 Now, Romney, I don't think is doing it for the reason we think he should do it.
00:14:28.580 I think he just really thinks, well, now, wait a minute.
00:14:31.880 There might be something there that we should look into.
00:14:34.860 I don't think he's doing it politically.
00:14:36.960 I think, I think Romney is so, um, he is, he is so self-aggrandized himself that he's
00:14:47.660 forgotten that he represents the people of the state of Utah.
00:14:52.780 He's representing Mitt Romney because I don't believe the people in Utah want him to, uh,
00:15:01.600 to do this.
00:15:02.900 Yeah, I don't think so either.
00:15:03.640 I mean, he won, what did, what did Trump win by 18 points in Utah?
00:15:07.320 Yeah.
00:15:07.560 And Utah was not a state that was raw, raw Donald Trump.
00:15:11.940 They kind of held their nose because of his personal life.
00:15:14.760 They held their nose and voted for him, but things change.
00:15:18.480 They still, I don't think like him the way he behaves personally in the tweets and everything
00:15:24.460 else, but they have seen like I have seen.
00:15:27.500 Okay.
00:15:27.960 Wait a minute.
00:15:28.580 Wait a minute.
00:15:29.320 There are some amazing things that he is doing.
00:15:31.940 Romney still doesn't like him.
00:15:34.860 And Romney, I think still thinks he's better than, than Donald Trump and everyone else in
00:15:40.940 the Senate.
00:15:41.360 I mean, I think he really truly believes.
00:15:44.620 And I, quite honestly, I think he's part of a problem of, uh, trying to tell everybody
00:15:50.640 that he's the reasonable one.
00:15:52.880 And Mike Lee is this crazy extremist.
00:15:57.460 And I don't think that's going to fly.
00:15:59.760 I hope not.
00:16:00.840 They've done that.
00:16:01.680 They've done that to Mike Lee though, for a while.
00:16:03.760 Yeah, they have.
00:16:04.420 Yeah.
00:16:04.600 They, I don't know how powers that be in Utah paint him as an extremist.
00:16:09.520 And it's, it's awful.
00:16:11.000 It's wrong.
00:16:11.920 And it's, it's not true.
00:16:13.440 It's not.
00:16:14.520 Mike Lee is the most reasonable, uh, Senator thought among the thoughtful.
00:16:20.180 He's, he's worked with Bernie Sanders on things when he can make a connection on the
00:16:26.660 constitution.
00:16:27.140 He'll do it.
00:16:28.640 Mike Lee is, I mean, if Mike Lee was the one saying, no, we should hear witnesses.
00:16:34.280 I would go with Mike Lee because there's not really political bones in his body.
00:16:40.960 He hates that.
00:16:42.560 Cares about the constitution.
00:16:43.700 Only cares about the constitution.
00:16:46.080 And, uh, Mitt Romney, I think is, I don't, I just, I mean, there's not been a, a, a bigger
00:16:53.600 disappointment.
00:16:54.360 No, Roger Ailes.
00:16:55.040 Not even a bigger disappointment than Mitt Romney.
00:16:57.700 He is just, uh, he's, he's politically smarmy.
00:17:02.440 I think he is.
00:17:04.200 So good luck with that.
00:17:06.040 Here's Mitt Romney in Utah underwater in the polls.
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00:17:20.540 Hey, it's Glenn.
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00:17:31.880 Something isn't right on this.
00:17:34.240 It's just something's not right.
00:17:36.900 Um, and, and here's why I say this.
00:17:39.200 I want to believe that the Chinese have learned their lessons from the past and the avian flu
00:17:47.200 and, uh, uh, and all the flus past the, uh, what was the other one that's, uh, SARS, that
00:17:54.560 the world chastised them.
00:17:56.100 Um, and those communists went, you know what?
00:17:58.720 We should be more open with information.
00:18:01.940 Okay.
00:18:02.540 Now that's possible.
00:18:04.020 Yeah.
00:18:04.300 Maybe.
00:18:04.780 But it never happens.
00:18:06.560 Yeah.
00:18:07.000 Never happened.
00:18:07.660 It's never happened.
00:18:09.360 Even during the period called glasnost, which meant openness, didn't it?
00:18:15.160 Isn't that what it meant?
00:18:15.960 Openness.
00:18:16.740 In the period of glasnost in the former Soviet Union, this is at the end when, you know,
00:18:21.980 Hey, you know what?
00:18:22.720 We want to be less communist and more like you guys.
00:18:26.400 We're going to be open.
00:18:28.020 Chernobyl goes off.
00:18:29.440 We can see the cloud.
00:18:31.560 We can measure the radiation.
00:18:33.840 And they're like, what?
00:18:35.320 No, that's probably coming from your microwave oven.
00:18:37.920 I mean, it was insane.
00:18:39.980 All right.
00:18:40.820 So maybe they've changed, but probably not.
00:18:45.300 Now, the reason why we're not so freaked out right now, and, and I think that's a good
00:18:52.040 thing is that we are believing the numbers given to us, uh, by the Chinese to the WHO.
00:19:00.220 We don't show, we don't really know what's happening.
00:19:04.580 We don't have any idea, but Pat, what are the latest totals?
00:19:10.260 I know it's what, just over 200 worldwide that have died.
00:19:13.540 Yeah.
00:19:14.080 And something like infection, something like 8,500 infected.
00:19:18.080 Okay.
00:19:18.580 Was the last number I heard, but it goes up quickly, uh, and exponentially.
00:19:22.340 Yeah.
00:19:22.580 Okay.
00:19:23.060 So 8,500 are infected, 200 are dead.
00:19:27.140 Now, some of those numbers are coming from the West, but most of those numbers are in,
00:19:33.540 um, in China.
00:19:36.980 Now, everyone's saying, and I've, I've, look, I've done my research on the flu and the pandemic
00:19:43.280 for years, for 22 decades, for 20 years, I've been studying this stuff because scientists
00:19:49.560 have said another one is coming.
00:19:52.480 Okay.
00:19:53.360 It's only a matter of time.
00:19:55.020 So I've gone back through my notes and I've looked at the stuff that we have done before.
00:20:00.940 We've looked at the science, we've done all of our work.
00:20:04.080 And what bothers me is this one seems to have all of the earmarks of the one that everyone's
00:20:12.620 been saying in the scientific world, it's going to look like this.
00:20:17.620 It's going to jump from an animal and an animal that we haven't really had a problem with before.
00:20:23.440 And it's going to be highly infectious.
00:20:27.040 Uh, it's going to mutate quickly.
00:20:29.380 It'll probably start someplace in China.
00:20:33.000 Uh, and it will start in, and we won't even know that you're infected.
00:20:38.500 Uh, and you're still spreading this disease, which is not done in flus, but that's what the really
00:20:43.920 bad one will look like.
00:20:45.500 Okay.
00:20:45.840 That looks like this one.
00:20:47.920 Uh, and, uh,
00:20:49.240 It has every one of those earmarks, right?
00:20:51.160 Every one of them.
00:20:51.840 It's going to be more contagious than SARS.
00:20:54.480 It is.
00:20:55.980 Um, and, uh, and you're just going to have to quarantine everybody.
00:21:00.240 You're just going to have to stop everything.
00:21:02.520 Okay.
00:21:03.000 Now let's just say nobody in the world is freaking out.
00:21:07.520 Okay.
00:21:08.160 And you shouldn't freak out.
00:21:09.380 We don't know, but can we just tie some things together?
00:21:13.020 First of all, and I'm not sure of the actual carriers, but I know it was like KLM.
00:21:19.480 I know British airways, Lufthansa, big airlines all across Europe have stopped all transportation
00:21:29.000 in and out of China.
00:21:30.860 Okay.
00:21:31.580 They're not, they're not flying from Europe or to Europe anymore.
00:21:35.860 We are.
00:21:37.400 Uh, Russia shut its border.
00:21:40.700 The entire Chinese border.
00:21:42.780 You ain't coming into Russia.
00:21:44.080 Okay.
00:21:45.420 Hong Kong.
00:21:47.680 They built this brand new, beautiful condominium complex in Hong Kong.
00:21:53.360 And it wasn't open yet for sale.
00:21:55.840 The Chinese government came in and said, we're going to put infected people in that building
00:22:01.800 in isolation.
00:22:04.180 Uh, and the Hong Kong people thought, no, you're not.
00:22:07.300 And so the Hong Kong people got, went into the streets and they burned the entire complex
00:22:11.560 to the ground.
00:22:12.460 Okay.
00:22:13.820 So wait a minute.
00:22:15.080 I hadn't heard that.
00:22:15.900 Yeah.
00:22:16.200 China doesn't have any space for the 8,500 people.
00:22:21.780 They got to ship them to a brand new condominium complex in Hong Kong.
00:22:26.980 And the people are like, no, you're not.
00:22:28.920 And they burn it to the ground.
00:22:30.320 All schools, all schools have been shut indefinitely and over 70 million people, 70 million people
00:22:42.160 are now quarantined in China for something that has caused 200 deaths and has 8,500 people
00:22:51.960 sick.
00:22:52.560 I mean, there are other diseases that are going on right now that have 200 dead and 10,000
00:23:02.600 people infected with it.
00:23:04.980 Um, imagine our government saying there's something going on right now and we just want to get
00:23:11.280 a handle on it.
00:23:12.120 So we're closing Los Angeles, Chicago, no one in or out, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York City,
00:23:20.560 Miami.
00:23:20.880 Hell, let's just close the entire Eastern seaboard.
00:23:24.640 All right.
00:23:25.420 Anything near I-95, shut down.
00:23:28.640 I-95, no buses, no trains, no planes, nothing.
00:23:33.400 Would, would we be saying, um, what are you not telling us?
00:23:39.520 How bad is this?
00:23:40.600 Yeah.
00:23:41.000 Is what you'd be saying.
00:23:41.780 You'd be saying that.
00:23:42.560 Because you'd cripple the economy.
00:23:43.980 Right.
00:23:45.840 Apple, Intel, all of these companies, major companies are thinking of,
00:23:50.880 suspending operations in China.
00:23:54.920 We're now talking about the ports.
00:23:57.060 The ports are now closing around the world for, from China.
00:24:02.020 Jeez.
00:24:02.620 Really?
00:24:03.740 For something that's killed 200 people?
00:24:07.540 Something just doesn't seem right.
00:24:10.540 Unless China is just like, we are going to show everybody, you get a sniffle and you will
00:24:18.240 never spread it to another person.
00:24:20.920 Oh, okay.
00:24:22.920 Okay.
00:24:23.820 Or maybe they're trying out, can we keep people in cities?
00:24:27.960 And they're trying out all their new technology.
00:24:30.220 Possibly.
00:24:31.920 They're either being super medical and to hell with the economy.
00:24:37.360 Which, no way.
00:24:40.320 No way.
00:24:41.140 No way.
00:24:41.840 We could have a plague here and there would be reasonable conversations to have.
00:24:48.540 If you shut this down, you will destroy the economy of America and it will take us five
00:24:54.280 years and we may never recapture our position.
00:24:58.160 You must do everything you can to keep things open.
00:25:01.860 Yeah.
00:25:02.920 What's happening?
00:25:05.420 It does sound like they're lying, doesn't it?
00:25:07.660 It does.
00:25:08.240 It does.
00:25:08.960 And they've got a nice history of lying.
00:25:11.740 No.
00:25:13.000 The Chinese?
00:25:13.820 Yeah.
00:25:14.460 Yeah.
00:25:15.140 Shut up.
00:25:16.660 I know.
00:25:16.920 It's hard to believe.
00:25:17.620 Yeah.
00:25:18.180 Yeah.
00:25:19.060 Usually communist governments are so open and honest.
00:25:22.960 Well, North Korea.
00:25:23.920 Oh, forthright.
00:25:25.060 Yeah.
00:25:25.520 Yeah.
00:25:25.980 Anything goes wrong, they tell everybody about it.
00:25:28.600 Hey, look out.
00:25:29.220 We might have a problem here.
00:25:30.360 We just wanted you to know.
00:25:31.320 So does this bother you at all?
00:25:32.620 Have you thought of, I mean, I had a conversation with my family last night.
00:25:36.480 I said, look, this is not going to happen.
00:25:38.880 It's not going to happen.
00:25:41.380 But let's just all mentally prepare.
00:25:45.280 This is what our line is going to be.
00:25:47.920 If it looks like they're starting to cordon off areas, this is what our family is going
00:25:54.480 to do.
00:25:56.240 I want you to call the schools and find out.
00:25:59.040 So we go to our kids go to an international school.
00:26:01.940 So has any of the parents, anybody been in China in the last couple of months?
00:26:09.640 If so, we want to know about it.
00:26:11.420 I don't need to know the names, but I want to know about it.
00:26:14.500 You know, taking these precautions.
00:26:17.060 Is anybody doing that?
00:26:18.540 I don't think America is really paying attention to this yet.
00:26:21.820 That's really prudent because we only have what?
00:26:23.660 We had the first person-to-person infection in, was it Chicago?
00:26:29.740 I think where the wife came home from Wuhan and her husband got infected.
00:26:35.780 That's the first time that's happened here.
00:26:37.020 So I think that's why, you know, there's only a few people infected that we are absolutely
00:26:42.760 sure about.
00:26:44.820 And if, but if there were a thousand people infected in the U.S., I think people would
00:26:49.460 really start to worry about it.
00:26:51.300 A thousand people.
00:26:53.380 The problem with this is the average flu, and think how common the flu is.
00:26:59.600 The average flu has a, it's called an R-naught rating, which means how, how easy it is to
00:27:10.100 pass.
00:27:10.620 For instance, smallpox is like, has an R-naught rating of 16 to 18, 20 is the top, and it means
00:27:18.700 that one person infected will infect 16 to 18 other people.
00:27:23.600 Oh.
00:27:23.880 Okay.
00:27:24.060 The flu, the regular flu is 1.1.
00:27:29.540 So you have the flu, you're going to give it to just over one other person.
00:27:34.640 All right.
00:27:35.600 The Spanish flu, the one that was the pandemic of 1918, was not infectious until you started
00:27:45.060 to show symptoms.
00:27:46.600 That's a big one.
00:27:48.100 And it only had an R-naught rating of 2.4.
00:27:51.740 This one, they believe, has an R-naught rating of 3.8.
00:27:57.720 Okay.
00:27:58.200 So it's, it's almost double that of the Spanish flu.
00:28:01.360 And here's the bigger problem.
00:28:03.240 You are infectious the minute you meet someone that has it, even if they show no symptoms,
00:28:10.380 it can jump to you.
00:28:12.760 And the incubation period is anywhere between five and 14 days.
00:28:17.400 And in those five and 14 days, you can be spreading it, but you have no symptoms.
00:28:23.740 And the way it spreads, it handshakes, right?
00:28:26.520 And then, like, if I shake your hand and you have it, and then I touch my eyes, it goes
00:28:30.260 through the eyes, the nose, the mouth.
00:28:31.860 Correct.
00:28:32.280 So it's not even airborne.
00:28:33.420 It's not airborne.
00:28:33.960 So anybody you shake hands with...
00:28:37.060 Or if you get sneezed on, there's another problem.
00:28:39.660 Yeah.
00:28:39.960 But that's, but that's, that's the normal way flu, you have people are like, don't, don't
00:28:44.340 stay away from me.
00:28:45.120 I got the flu.
00:28:46.180 You're not contagious before you show symptoms.
00:28:50.960 This one is.
00:28:52.360 Yeah.
00:28:52.460 So everyone you meet, everyone you're around, okay, if they have it, they don't even know
00:29:00.840 they have it.
00:29:01.420 And so this one, remember this, the Spanish flu killed 50 million people worldwide.
00:29:08.120 675,000 here in America.
00:29:10.020 Can you imagine something killing 675,000 Americans?
00:29:14.000 I mean, to put it, to put it into context, the Spanish flu, um, which only infected a
00:29:22.620 third of the world, uh, and only killed 10% of that third, that killed more people than
00:29:32.060 World War I and World War II combined, a flu, and it did it in 18 months.
00:29:41.320 That's what we're concerned about.
00:29:44.160 And quite honestly, it, you know, here's one time I'm saying, maybe we should pay attention
00:29:49.240 to Europe.
00:29:49.900 If Europe is grounding their planes, why isn't the United States of America?
00:29:55.480 We should be grounding our planes when it comes to China.
00:30:00.480 Sorry, until we know what we're dealing with, no planes in, no planes out.
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00:30:43.220 Bill, before we go to Iowa, there's a new report that shows the evening news spin on the impeachment
00:30:50.540 hearings.
00:30:51.220 They looked at all of the evening news programs.
00:30:53.360 They found their news 100% negative on Donald Trump's defense, 95% positive for Democrats.
00:31:04.360 Absolutely humanly impossible.
00:31:07.420 Impossible.
00:31:08.400 If you're trying to be at all fair.
00:31:12.340 But they're not.
00:31:13.500 Yes.
00:31:13.920 Right.
00:31:14.460 Everybody knows that.
00:31:15.880 Right.
00:31:16.060 I did the story last night on the no spin news on Bill O'Reilly dot com.
00:31:20.460 And I basically looked at the audience.
00:31:22.540 I said, I'm sorry to bore you because I know you know this already, that if you watch an
00:31:29.500 American television news network for news, you're not going to get the news anymore.
00:31:34.960 That's not what they're in business to do.
00:31:37.000 They're in business to promote an ideology, number one.
00:31:40.200 And number two, to elect candidates that back up what ideology they want.
00:31:46.220 That's what the industry is now.
00:31:48.500 So now, but with that being said, there was another poll taken by people who read or of
00:31:56.220 people who read the New York Times, people who read the New York Times when they heard
00:32:02.220 the New York Times endorse Elizabeth Warren and Klobuchar, the people who read the paper,
00:32:10.660 five percent of those people moved to Joe Biden.
00:32:15.840 OK, so even their own readership is like, OK, I don't trust these people.
00:32:21.780 Is that accurate to say?
00:32:23.580 What would you take from that?
00:32:24.740 I think so.
00:32:25.300 Listen, I think that Americans, no matter how nutty they may be politically on both the
00:32:33.140 right and the left, all right, essentially want an honest presentation.
00:32:38.440 Correct.
00:32:40.040 I mean, I think 90 percent of them want honesty, even if they don't like to hear it.
00:32:45.240 All right.
00:32:45.400 Even if that's why I have been so successful and all the research on me shows that.
00:32:50.940 So you may not like me, all right, and I understand that, but you'll get a fair play when you listen
00:32:58.720 to me analyze the news.
00:33:01.520 As you just said, if Trump does some dopey, I'm going to tell you.
00:33:05.600 But what has happened now in America is a lot of people don't seek the truth anymore.
00:33:12.120 They don't care about it.
00:33:13.900 They want an outcome.
00:33:16.680 All right.
00:33:16.920 So the Me Too people want males to be crushed.
00:33:21.740 That's the outcome they want.
00:33:23.260 They don't want fairness, not looking for facts.
00:33:26.580 And that's what you're getting in politics.
00:33:28.740 So the outcome that the left wants is Trump out of office.
00:33:33.840 How you get them out of office doesn't really matter to them.
00:33:37.700 But the declining audiences at network news have to be.
00:33:42.340 I mean, look at CBS Evening News.
00:33:44.660 My God, it's a collapse.
00:33:47.180 And CNN, collapse.
00:33:50.080 So, you know, that's the reality in the country we live in right now.
00:33:54.680 All right.
00:33:55.640 You're still standing that Joe Biden is going to take the caucus?
00:34:01.020 Now you're distorting me.
00:34:02.820 Well, that's what I do.
00:34:03.740 I'm part of the mainstream media now.
00:34:05.500 I'm, you know, you're a guy by the pool.
00:34:07.700 I'm, you know, I'm here to distort.
00:34:10.360 Yeah, if you do it again, I'm taking your cowboy boots away.
00:34:15.200 All right.
00:34:16.060 Now, I said Biden's going to win the nomination.
00:34:19.240 But I have been steadfast in saying Iowa is so crazy that nobody can predict it.
00:34:27.460 Yeah.
00:34:27.600 And here's why it's so crazy.
00:34:29.620 150,000 people vote out of a state of about three and a half million.
00:34:33.880 Okay.
00:34:34.480 The 150,000 who vote, they don't go to the polls back.
00:34:39.240 They go to a little schoolhouse or a little VFW hall or whatever it may be.
00:34:44.900 And they stand around.
00:34:45.980 And they go, I like Biden.
00:34:47.960 No, I like Bernie.
00:34:49.020 No, I like Buttigieg.
00:34:51.680 And then at the end of an hour, they say, okay, let's write this down who you want.
00:34:58.540 Very informal, very undisciplined, and only the real true believers participate, not the folks.
00:35:06.080 And this is on the right, too.
00:35:07.820 Remember, Ted Cruz won the Iowa caucus last time around.
00:35:11.900 What's really interesting is it's not all like that.
00:35:15.600 I went to a couple of high schools for the caucus, and they would have the, you know, for instance, next Monday, they'll have the Bernie people here.
00:35:26.080 They'll have the Elizabeth Warren people in this room, and you can go listen to them.
00:35:30.340 And they're bargaining for your vote.
00:35:33.200 And they'll say, look, Warren doesn't have a chance.
00:35:35.860 I know you really like Warren, but she doesn't have a chance.
00:35:38.520 Throw in with Bernie because he could take this, and then you'll get your socialist utopia.
00:35:44.280 And so it's not going in and making a personal decision.
00:35:49.100 It is the party very, very active going in.
00:35:56.000 And the ones who make the most compelling strategic argument, I think, are the ones that usually come out.
00:36:03.800 Yeah, but there's a lot of ideology involved in it.
00:36:06.820 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:36:08.540 I mean, look, if I had to put money down now on the Iowa caucus, I would say Sanders wins.
00:36:20.060 And Biden does pretty well.
00:36:22.100 Biden's running around a little bus.
00:36:25.640 Am I in Iowa or is this Nebraska?
00:36:30.520 He goes in the bus, he's yelling at people out the window.
00:36:35.360 And Buttigieg is running around, too.
00:36:36.840 Remember that Bernie and Warren and Klobuchar, they've been holed up in the Senate.
00:36:42.960 They couldn't get to Iowa.
00:36:45.060 And meantime, little Pete is knocking on your door.
00:36:47.920 He's sliding down your chimney.
00:36:49.820 And he's a charming guy.
00:36:51.660 So he'll do okay.
00:36:52.700 So I would say it's Sanders, Biden, Buttigieg, one, two, three.
00:36:57.060 Which makes the State of the Union address even easier when he – because Trump could make this about capitalism versus socialism.
00:37:06.420 I think Trump will go light on the individuals.
00:37:11.600 Yes.
00:37:12.040 And heavy on the –
00:37:13.280 Ideology.
00:37:14.340 Yeah, like I just said.
00:37:15.880 You may not like me, but do you want these people taking the station wagon out of your garage?
00:37:21.080 Because that's what they're going to do.
00:37:23.600 They're going to take all your stuff.
00:37:25.140 They want to run your life in every way, shape, and form.
00:37:28.720 And he'll hit the guns.
00:37:30.620 He'll hit a whole bunch of stuff in the State of the Union.
00:37:34.160 All right?
00:37:34.560 I'm pro-life.
00:37:35.460 I'm pro-Second Amendment.
00:37:37.220 I'm this.
00:37:37.820 I'm that.
00:37:38.320 And look at these other people.
00:37:40.480 They're going to take everything you have.
00:37:42.520 All right?
00:37:43.180 Everything you have.
00:37:43.900 And he'd be foolish, Trump, to not use the State of the Union to draw that contract.
00:37:52.880 Meantime, Bernie gets Iowa, and then he zips into New Hampshire the next week where he's a favorite son.
00:38:02.220 Yeah.
00:38:02.580 All right?
00:38:03.020 So Warren's campaign has collapsed.
00:38:05.560 A lot of her people come over to Bernie.
00:38:07.420 And then it'll look bad for Biden.
00:38:09.820 And believe me, all the cable TV left-wing journalists will scream, Bernie, Bernie, Bernie.
00:38:16.000 Okay?
00:38:16.340 Because they don't want Biden.
00:38:17.980 They think Biden is going to not make it to the finish line.
00:38:22.640 Where Podesta and the wise guys in the Democratic Party, they don't want Bernie Sanders at all.
00:38:29.240 But the media favors Sanders over Biden.
00:38:32.440 And if Sanders wins Iowa and New Hampshire, which he almost certainly is going to, and then he wins in Nevada where he's performing pretty well,
00:38:44.120 he's got pretty serious momentum by the time you get to South Carolina.
00:38:48.140 Can anybody stop him if he wins those first three?
00:38:50.660 Oh, yeah.
00:38:51.440 You think so?
00:38:51.960 Number one, I don't think he's going to win Nevada.
00:38:54.520 I think the Biden people are going to really throw a lot of stuff into Nevada.
00:38:59.080 And the unions are going to go.
00:38:59.940 Unions are very strong.
00:39:01.480 Yeah.
00:39:01.720 Right.
00:39:02.780 They're going to go with Biden.
00:39:04.400 But so is Pod.
00:39:05.260 And then Biden will wipe out Bernie in South Carolina because African-Americans are a big part of that electorate on the Democratic side.
00:39:15.580 Correct.
00:39:16.000 And they don't like Bernie.
00:39:17.880 See, Bernie doesn't compute with the minority communities, Hispanics or African-Americans.
00:39:23.460 Fascinating.
00:39:24.560 Because they don't like him.
00:39:25.540 And I did a big thing on Bernie, and I don't know whether you guys know it or not, but he has made millions of dollars, he and his wife.
00:39:35.320 Right.
00:39:35.860 Big time.
00:39:36.580 Off the public goal.
00:39:37.920 Yeah.
00:39:38.300 He's Hunter Biden.
00:39:40.220 He's – Jane Sanders is Hunter Biden.
00:39:43.540 Yeah.
00:39:43.760 Although they didn't use overseas, it was here.
00:39:47.600 I'll give you one example.
00:39:48.500 Jane Biden was appointed president of Burlington College.
00:39:51.760 200 students.
00:39:52.880 200 students ran the college into bankruptcy.
00:39:56.540 And part of the reason was she awarded her daughter a $500,000 woodworking contract from the college.
00:40:08.480 It's got 200 students.
00:40:10.500 So when do you get to the ridiculous part?
00:40:15.540 Here's the ridiculous part.
00:40:17.400 The press has ignored it.
00:40:20.020 They know it because Peter Schweitzer's book outlines it.
00:40:23.120 Yeah.
00:40:23.840 The press has not even mentioned it.
00:40:25.600 Even the conservative press, the Fox News people, haven't even mentioned it.
00:40:31.380 When I did this this week on the No Spin News, all right, I got calls.
00:40:36.260 What?
00:40:36.960 What?
00:40:37.660 How did you get that?
00:40:38.540 I go, it's public record.
00:40:40.660 Yeah.
00:40:40.940 The guy has made $5 million.
00:40:42.780 He's got three homes, and he's never had a private job.
00:40:45.420 Never in a private sector.
00:40:46.740 Not even Wendy.
00:40:47.900 They don't.
00:40:48.560 I don't think the left cares.
00:40:50.880 As long as you're making money.
00:40:53.080 They don't.
00:40:53.880 As long as you're making money and you're, you're towing the line and telling everybody that, you know, there has to be somebody to oversee against all the corruption of all the other people.
00:41:04.980 You're fine.
00:41:05.900 That's true, but there's not enough far left nuts to put Bernie Sanders into the nomination.
00:41:14.520 Before you've got to get some moderate Democrats.
00:41:16.860 Are you concerned at all about Wisconsin and Bernie Sanders, his people?
00:41:24.540 I mean, we've had two people exposed by Project Veritas that are saying they're going to burn things down.
00:41:31.360 They're going to be training.
00:41:32.340 They're waiting for a revolution.
00:41:33.700 They want one.
00:41:34.700 The Democrats aren't going to do this to them again.
00:41:36.780 Wait until we get Milwaukee.
00:41:37.980 They were not fired by the Sanders campaign, and they occupy the same position that the guy who went to Virginia to shoot all of the Republicans on the baseball diamond held.
00:41:50.880 These people are serious.
00:41:53.100 Nobody's paying attention to it.
00:41:55.300 How do you feel Wisconsin's going to go if the if the Democrats are seen by those guys as maneuvering to hurt Bernie Sanders?
00:42:05.920 I think Trump has a very good chance to take Wisconsin.
00:42:12.020 I do, too.
00:42:12.420 I think he's got it's more problematic for him in Pennsylvania.
00:42:16.900 All right.
00:42:18.020 But Wisconsin and Michigan, the working people, have benefited greatly from the Trump economy in both states.
00:42:27.200 So I think that he's got a good shot to take those again.
00:42:31.860 Why?
00:42:32.520 He's got a good shot.
00:42:33.180 Why is Pennsylvania why is Pennsylvania a problem for him?
00:42:36.720 Because if it's Biden, as I think it will be, the African-American vote that stayed home last time around, they didn't like Hillary, will come out for Biden because Barack Obama will campaign for Biden.
00:42:50.960 It's a little off topic.
00:42:52.840 Go ahead.
00:42:53.520 Go ahead.
00:42:53.860 Finish.
00:42:55.220 And that that's the difference.
00:42:57.320 OK, so Philadelphia, if African-American vote comes out big for Biden, that is going to that could put him over the top there.
00:43:05.840 This is a little off topic.
00:43:07.400 But before you go, I got to find out how you feel about big gay ice cream.
00:43:13.920 Do you love it?
00:43:14.800 Big gay ice cream.
00:43:16.080 Oh, you haven't seen the you haven't seen the Michael Bloomberg ad where he.
00:43:19.640 No.
00:43:20.040 Yeah.
00:43:20.280 It's his it's his favorite.
00:43:21.360 So I guess you've never tried it.
00:43:22.440 You got to try it.
00:43:24.240 He says it's the best.
00:43:25.220 Wait a minute.
00:43:25.880 Yeah.
00:43:26.240 So Bloomberg is telling people in an ad that he likes ice cream.
00:43:29.480 No, he likes big gay ice cream.
00:43:31.580 And it's very, very authentic.
00:43:32.960 He he takes a spoon.
00:43:35.000 He's like, hey, where's my ice cream?
00:43:36.760 Somebody hands him this this container of big gay ice cream.
00:43:40.600 And he takes one bite of it.
00:43:43.140 And he's like, hmm, big gay.
00:43:45.380 It's the best ice cream ever.
00:43:47.520 So I didn't know if you had had it.
00:43:49.320 You've never tried it.
00:43:50.300 Never tried it.
00:43:51.000 All right.
00:43:51.420 OK, well, man.
00:43:52.720 Why is that because you hate?
00:43:54.540 Is that.
00:43:58.240 But remember, this is a man who doesn't know how to pet a dog.
00:44:01.460 He missed the dog.
00:44:03.960 I was petting him with my tire.
00:44:06.260 What?
00:44:06.980 Right.
00:44:07.420 All right.
00:44:07.920 I don't know how you missed the dog's head, but he did.
00:44:10.480 But anyway, he got short arms, I guess.
00:44:13.120 When when Bloomberg was mayor of New York, I want everybody to remember, you couldn't drink Dr. Pepper.
00:44:18.780 No, I know.
00:44:19.240 A federal agent would come to your house and compensate you Dr. Pepper.
00:44:23.460 He was counting your calories.
00:44:24.900 You couldn't have a straw stacer.
00:44:26.560 I mean, the guy was following you around.
00:44:28.280 Get out of here.
00:44:29.100 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:44:34.180 I have to tell you, I looked down and I knew that we had scheduled Joe Lieberman, but I'm looking down and I'm thinking, OK, I'm writing down the things I have to say to Joe Lieberman and get his opinion on.
00:45:02.700 And then I realize, wow, Joe and I have been friends for a very long time and I treated him and I and I've never said this before because this is pretty new.
00:45:15.900 So I is Joe on the phone, Joe.
00:45:19.740 Yes.
00:45:20.300 Hi.
00:45:20.720 Good morning, Glenn.
00:45:21.800 I just it's great to hear your voice.
00:45:23.720 Thank you.
00:45:24.240 Thank you.
00:45:25.120 Let me just let me start here.
00:45:27.560 I was very, very hard on you during the impeachment of Clinton.
00:45:32.420 And you know that I was I was really very hard on you.
00:45:35.960 And I have to apologize to you because I think you were right in watching Dershowitz and I don't buy all of his stuff.
00:45:46.020 But in watching Dershowitz, if it's not a political crime, if it's a crime, especially the one he committed, which was perjury about his marriage, I was so dead set on you can't have somebody committing perjury who's the president.
00:46:02.380 But if we cross these lines, as I understand now from Dershowitz, we become a parliamentary system where it can really easily become a vote of no confidence.
00:46:14.240 And then the president doesn't mean anything.
00:46:17.060 Was was that the way you looked at it at all?
00:46:20.660 Yeah.
00:46:21.560 You first of you, you don't have to apologize.
00:46:24.500 We go back decades and we had a disagreement.
00:46:28.940 But you're you're you're you're a big man in many ways.
00:46:32.360 And one is I think that's a fat joke.
00:46:36.780 I give you I grant you total forgiveness.
00:46:39.660 Thank you.
00:46:40.100 Really?
00:46:41.000 Not at all.
00:46:42.000 But you're you're you're making a good point.
00:46:44.200 I tell you, I spent a lot of time during the Clinton impeachment trial, going back and looking at what the intention of the was of the great men who wrote our Constitution about impeachment.
00:46:58.160 And it seemed to me that they were setting a very high bar for taking a president out of office.
00:47:05.400 And the reason is what has been discussed by Dershowitz and others, which is the centerpiece of the system.
00:47:12.720 The new country they were creating was elections.
00:47:15.120 You have to have consent of the governed for those who govern.
00:47:18.780 And you would only let Congress intervene in that when it was an extreme situation, really, that the country I had the feeling that the country would be in danger if a particular president was kept in office.
00:47:33.960 And, of course, this was before the 25th Amendment, which came along a lot later, that that set up a procedure for removing a president from office for physical or mental and capability.
00:47:45.580 So that's why they required two thirds vote in the Senate.
00:47:49.940 And, you know, I felt and I said it then that President Clinton's behavior was morally reprehensible.
00:47:57.740 And it wasn't just morally reprehensible, but it had an effect on the country because a leader I learned growing up and I learned it a lot from, you know, from the Bible that a leader is actually held to a higher standard than average people because the impact of immorality or wrongdoing is greater.
00:48:18.860 So long story short, I felt he had done something terribly wrong, but it but it hadn't reached the threshold for impeachment.
00:48:25.720 And I find this running.
00:48:27.760 This is a very different fact situation, the whole business about Ukraine, as opposed to Clinton Lewinsky.
00:48:34.020 But in the end, it's the same test.
00:48:36.820 And I think it's probably going to come now to a to a what I would call a reasonable and just conclusion or let's put it this way, a conclusion that if Madison and Hamilton were here alive today, they would say this is what we intended.
00:48:54.640 How would you vote today if you were sitting there?
00:48:57.760 I probably vote for witnesses just because and of course, I'm being a little naive about what I'm about to say.
00:49:06.460 Yeah, I know there was some fear that if you had witnesses, it would be 15, 17 witnesses.
00:49:11.640 The impeachment trial would go on for weeks and months.
00:49:14.700 But in the good old days, we wouldn't have negotiated a compromise across party lines, as we did, incidentally, on the on the rules for the Clinton impeachment trial, where they were adopted 100 to nothing.
00:49:29.020 Here was a straight party line vote.
00:49:30.760 And then, you know, I've hesitated to say this because I'm not on the field anymore, so I haven't said how I would vote.
00:49:38.380 But let me we're getting because I wanted to hear all the evidence.
00:49:42.400 But let me just say that I thought Lamar Alexander's statement last night, although he disagreed with what I just said about hearing witnesses, was was right,
00:49:52.700 which is what the call from all that I know now, the call that President Trump made with President Zelensky of Ukraine was inappropriate, was wrong.
00:50:01.640 It shouldn't have been done.
00:50:02.700 But did it reach the point where we can say nine months before an election, I want to come back to that point, that he represents, if he keeps him in office, he represents a danger to the country?
00:50:15.240 I don't think so.
00:50:16.600 I think it's up to leave it to the people in November.
00:50:18.920 In other words, the impeachment, as our framers intended, I believe, was not meant to be punitive, to punish you either criminally or by taking you out of office.
00:50:29.640 It was meant to protect the country until the next election.
00:50:33.920 And the closer it is to an election, the higher the threshold for convicting somebody president and removing him from office.
00:50:42.540 So I think it's coming to a fair conclusion.
00:50:45.580 Hopefully we can get back to governing.
00:50:47.260 If not, we can go on to the election, and the people will decide.
00:50:51.400 Right.
00:50:52.060 Let me switch subjects.
00:50:54.060 Benjamin Netanyahu was in the Oval Office this week.
00:50:57.820 They had a big announcement.
00:50:59.140 I mean, I'm not a dummy.
00:51:01.880 This, you know, helped Benjamin Netanyahu, I'm sure, in his fight back home.
00:51:06.300 He's in some trouble.
00:51:07.560 So I know that this is, you know, a lot of this is political.
00:51:11.780 However, the peace plan that was given, and honestly, the words of President Trump to the Palestinians at that press conference was, I thought, astounding.
00:51:26.580 And everything, a reasonable group of people should at least sit down and consider.
00:51:33.540 But it was rejected right out of hand.
00:51:36.640 And no one in the press is, they're barely even reporting this.
00:51:41.560 What are your thoughts on this?
00:51:42.960 No, I totally agree with you in your introductory statement and what you said just now, Glenn.
00:51:50.300 I mean, I think there was politics, but I would put it this way.
00:51:53.780 The politics may have been more in the timing of the announcement.
00:51:57.900 The politics wasn't in the substance.
00:51:59.960 I thought this was the result of real effort and persistence directed by President Trump, but really carried out by Jared Kushner and the others who worked in the administration for it.
00:52:16.900 And Kushner is being – Kushner is being mocked by the press.
00:52:20.520 I saw an interview with him.
00:52:21.600 I said, well, what makes you an expert?
00:52:23.420 And he said, well, I mean, you know, I've been working on this a long time.
00:52:26.920 Just in the last year, I've read probably 25 different books on the different, you know, peace process.
00:52:32.100 And the headline was, oh, he thinks he can read 25 books and be an expert.
00:52:36.300 I mean, it's just –
00:52:37.680 Well, that's nasty.
00:52:39.160 I give him a lot of credit for what he did.
00:52:41.200 Talked to a lot of people in the Middle East, including some of the Palestinians.
00:52:46.340 And this is a total new beginning.
00:52:49.280 And I think it's hopeful.
00:52:50.360 And really, this peace plan offers – in other words, the – well, everybody was trying for the last – well, since the Oslo Agreement in 19 – I think it was 93.
00:53:03.100 Everybody was trying to fit within that format totally, and nothing was happening.
00:53:09.740 And here again, all the efforts that President Trump, Kushner were making with the Palestinians were going nowhere.
00:53:16.360 So they simply decided, we're going to begin a new conversation.
00:53:20.720 And they did.
00:53:21.820 It gives Israel security and a lot of what it wanted.
00:53:26.200 But it honestly, as you've said, think about it, it gives the Palestinians a state that's about twice as large as the territory they now govern, and a capital in East Jerusalem, which they wanted, and a promise of $50 billion.
00:53:42.700 It's unbelievable.
00:53:44.140 To prove the life of their people.
00:53:45.460 So, yeah.
00:53:46.440 It's –
00:53:46.880 Go ahead.
00:53:48.960 I'm sorry.
00:53:49.200 No, no, no.
00:53:49.640 I'm sorry to interrupt you.
00:53:50.700 It's staggering, I think, how good this is at the first initial offer.
00:53:58.120 And there's no interest.
00:54:01.300 No interest by the current Palestinian leadership, which has proven – I went during my time in the Senate over and over again.
00:54:09.120 Just about every time I visited Israel, I went to Ramallah to see President Abbas of the Palestinian Authority.
00:54:15.820 Nice man, pleasant to be with, good to talk to.
00:54:18.540 But he has proven himself incapable of being a leader who will take the risks for peace and prosperity for his own people.
00:54:28.260 But, Glenn, you pointed a few moments ago to the really significant difference in response to the really significant differences in this Trump Middle East peace plan, which is the response of the Arab world.
00:54:43.160 Oh, my gosh.
00:54:44.280 These are the people that lined up against Israel.
00:54:47.700 They lined up against them.
00:54:49.620 They're all – they are – and correct me if I'm wrong, Joe – they are more pro-Israel, at least sounding, today, than the Democratic candidates that are running for president.
00:55:02.800 Well, I can't say every candidate, but some candidates, a Democratic candidate, you're absolutely right.
00:55:09.680 And, you know, there you had in that room – I was there in the East Room at the White House on Tuesday – you had the ambassadors from the United Arab Emirates, big, important country ally of ours from Oman and Bahrain.
00:55:22.060 And then the two giants, really, in the Arab world, Saudi Arabia, host of the two holy mosques of Islam, and Egypt, which has been the historic center of the Arab world and the largest population in the Arab world,
00:55:39.060 both saying – not endorsing every element of the plan, but supporting it and directly calling on the Palestinians to come to the table and begin to negotiate.
00:55:50.320 Right now, based on what's preceded in recent years, don't expect it from this Palestinian leadership, but maybe we'll be surprised.
00:55:59.540 Anyway, I think, you know, President Trump is, to put it mildly, unconventional as a leader.
00:56:06.660 And sometimes this upsets me, but other times, because he is willing to be unconventional in what the folks in the high-tech world call a disruptor.
00:56:19.640 He does things that enables things to happen that you look at and you say, you know what, this is something we ought to try.
00:56:28.720 And believe me, this is a step toward peace in the Middle East, when and if there's a Palestinian leadership.
00:56:37.560 And when, there will be when, if now, a Palestinian leadership that is willing to get engaged with Israel.
00:56:43.800 And you're right, this is a first offer, if you will.
00:56:47.900 It can be changed.
00:56:49.240 There's some things that Israel weren't allowed to be changed, but some things can be negotiated and the Palestinians ought to, the people of Palestine, the Palestinian people ought to rise up and push their leaders to go to the table with Israel in a process, as the Saudis and Egyptians said, under the auspices of the United States.
00:57:10.860 We can mediate and they can get something done.
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