The Glenn Beck Program - October 13, 2023


Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Bill O’Reilly & Justin Haskins ｜ 10⧸13⧸23


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Glenn Beck has a guest on the show today, and it's not a good one. He talks about a family that was taken into custody by the U.S. government and held for 12 days, and how the government handled the situation.

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00:00:00.040 Today, I don't know, I am a doctor, but I hate to self-diagnose, but I think somebody on the program lost their wig a bit.
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00:01:34.020 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:01:45.020 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.
00:01:47.400 All right.
00:01:48.040 So I've had, you know, I've had a sedative given to me.
00:01:53.380 So I'm okay now.
00:01:53.900 It was whiskey.
00:01:54.620 He gargled it.
00:01:57.320 Anyway, so yeah, whiskey.
00:01:59.220 That'll make the show.
00:02:00.220 Give it 20 minutes.
00:02:01.560 Give me a few more shots and then it'll be a, anyway, um, the Romike family, uh, is a German family that we, that came 15 years ago to the United States and sought asylum.
00:02:14.520 They did it the right way.
00:02:15.760 All they wanted was to freely homeschool their children.
00:02:19.400 Uh, and it's on religious, um, persecution.
00:02:23.940 They were asking for asylum.
00:02:25.740 Obama wouldn't give it to them.
00:02:27.300 Uh, and then we all kind of forgot about the family because they, they were here in America, uh, and, um, they were doing well, live in Tennessee, get along with all their neighbors.
00:02:38.720 They're good, industrious people.
00:02:41.120 Their children grew up.
00:02:42.200 They got married.
00:02:42.880 They have other small children.
00:02:44.480 And, uh, and, uh, just recently the, uh, U S government, when they went in to get their, their workers permits again, they were like, oh yeah, um, you have to leave now.
00:02:55.680 And, uh, you have to leave, which would have been today.
00:02:59.380 They had to have producer passports.
00:03:00.960 Well, we talked about it.
00:03:02.120 I blew a gasket and, uh, apparently some other people did, uh, as well.
00:03:06.860 And the homeschool legal defense association who has been on this forever, they are great.
00:03:13.720 They, uh, you know, they, they poked around, see what they could find.
00:03:17.020 And we have some good news for you.
00:03:18.720 And so let me introduce you, uh, to Hannah Laurie, um, uh, Romike.
00:03:24.100 She is the homeschooling mom and Kevin Bowden.
00:03:27.740 He is the homeschool legal defense, uh, uh, attorney.
00:03:31.000 So let me start with you, Kevin.
00:03:33.000 You talked to ice, I think on Wednesday, right?
00:03:37.460 I talked to ice last week, late last week, and then we were there in person just a couple of days ago.
00:03:42.860 Okay.
00:03:43.280 What did they tell you?
00:03:46.420 We, they said, you know, the family will come in, plan for us to sign out their order of supervision paperwork for another 12 months.
00:03:54.160 Uh, which is what they did on Wednesday.
00:03:55.820 You know, I asked specifically about what was the change.
00:03:59.340 And I got basically kind of a canned response about, well, there's changes in policies and procedures from time to time.
00:04:04.960 And then, you know, anyway, what's your gut tell you?
00:04:08.860 What's your gut tell you on that?
00:04:11.180 Oh, my gut tells me that, you know, this is not, you know, with all of the publicity and with everything that's going on, they just didn't want to deal with it.
00:04:18.240 And so someone at the top said, make this go away.
00:04:20.840 Sign them out for another year.
00:04:21.900 We don't want to deal with it.
00:04:23.140 Well, I will tell you, uh, uh, the, uh, presidential candidate named Scott from South Carolina, uh, made a few phone calls as well.
00:04:35.720 So they got some heat, uh, from some important people.
00:04:40.220 So hopefully that, that played a role.
00:04:42.540 So we're back to square one though, again, a year from now.
00:04:47.600 We are.
00:04:48.360 Yeah.
00:04:48.520 I mean, this is, this is not a long-term solution.
00:04:50.480 This is a bandaid.
00:04:51.340 This is a placeholder.
00:04:52.660 And, you know, we certainly appreciate Senator Scott.
00:04:55.480 I know he's expressed some interest in, in a private bill as well in the Senate, which would be wonderful.
00:04:59.560 So we're continuing to look at long-term solutions, but of course, grateful for the 12 months that we now have to, to pursue some of those a little bit more in depth.
00:05:07.920 Yeah.
00:05:08.060 Well, let, let me know how we can help in the meantime.
00:05:10.540 I don't want to face this again next year.
00:05:12.300 And I know the family doesn't either.
00:05:14.440 Um, uh, Hannah Laurie is, uh, on the phone with his mom.
00:05:18.140 And I can't tell you, uh, I, I have rarely met people as impressive, uh, as, um, Hannah Laurie.
00:05:27.120 She is, I mean, I put her in the category of, um, brushes with spiritual greatness in, in the category of, of meeting some of the greatest, uh, religious figures of our day, including Billy Graham.
00:05:43.080 She is a remarkable woman of faith.
00:05:46.680 Welcome to the program.
00:05:47.820 How are you?
00:05:50.860 Hannah Laurie, are you there?
00:05:54.100 Oh, I, I just did this great intro and now she's not here.
00:05:57.120 I mean, that's, oh, hi, how are you?
00:06:00.900 Hi, I'm doing good.
00:06:03.140 Good.
00:06:03.560 Good to talk to you again.
00:06:05.320 Uh, I, I'm so glad that things are working out.
00:06:08.240 At least we have a, uh, delay.
00:06:10.180 And so you don't have to go back right away to, uh, to Germany.
00:06:13.980 How, how did it feel when you, when you found out the news?
00:06:18.320 Oh, that was a big relief.
00:06:20.400 Yeah.
00:06:21.640 Yeah.
00:06:22.040 And we are very thankful.
00:06:23.460 You know, the pressure is going down.
00:06:25.940 Yeah.
00:06:27.340 Yeah.
00:06:27.680 And it's good.
00:06:28.580 We are very thankful and grateful.
00:06:30.260 You know, you, um, you were quiet on the TV show with me last week.
00:06:35.600 And then when the mics went off and the cameras were turned off, you just, I mean, you amazed me.
00:06:41.280 Uh, you had me actually in tears, um, because of your faith, um, you, I said, you know, don't worry, we'll have, you know, or do everything we can to work it out.
00:06:51.480 And you were just not seemingly in the right way, worried at all because of your faith.
00:06:59.800 Uh, yeah, you know, that is actually an interview.
00:07:03.600 It's for me harder than the real life experience because, uh, of what, you know, we have experienced in the past, how the Lord, uh, stepped in and fought our battle.
00:07:14.880 Even if we didn't feel like he's still strong, you know, and he still wins all the battles.
00:07:21.560 And actually, I, I feel, uh, I want to encourage the American people, you know, uh, who have prayed for us and fought this battle.
00:07:30.660 I feel like they have carried the burden even more than we did.
00:07:34.240 And I wanted to thank you and, and all the American people who prayed and fought on our side.
00:07:41.340 First, I want to thank our Lord, you know, who is great and hears our prayers.
00:07:45.840 But I also want to encourage the American people that the Lord hears their prayers.
00:07:51.760 And sometimes we get discouraged and we think, you know, that, uh, maybe it's not enough, but prayers are powerful and we felt the effect.
00:08:00.560 We felt it before.
00:08:01.880 And this time it was even my dear.
00:08:04.240 So I want to say a big thank you to the American people who prayed for us.
00:08:09.320 You know, they feel so discouraged and helpless and they think that's not the America, uh, they know.
00:08:16.020 Um, but I wanted to say if I have a little bit time.
00:08:19.060 Sure.
00:08:20.380 And that how, how we came over here to America and we came with only suitcases, seven suitcases with a few clothes and, and a few German books and toys.
00:08:31.860 And the American people came and brought us clothes, food and blankets and furniture.
00:08:37.780 Some of them we still have to this day.
00:08:40.780 And they even donated a piano and came with their children for piano lessons so we could make a living here.
00:08:47.900 That's how we met the American people.
00:08:50.560 They always trade, treated us with respect, loved us, helped us and blessed us.
00:08:56.000 So, and that's how we met the American people.
00:09:00.020 They were always a blessing and welcoming to us.
00:09:02.760 So, you see what's happening all around the world and you see what, I mean, we're fighting great and powerful evil right now.
00:09:12.680 And people feel like there's no, they feel that they have no power to do anything.
00:09:20.440 Um, and that's really, I mean, we don't, we are powerless over this to some degree.
00:09:27.020 Only God can save us.
00:09:29.380 But tell me, tell me how you view what we're going through now as a, as a people who believe in freedom.
00:09:36.820 I have, I have, the Lord gave me a word yesterday that was very powerful and made me think.
00:09:44.820 So, I can just throw it out to you.
00:09:47.360 And, and he said, he woke me up with that sentence, you don't get to choose your battles, but you can choose the outcome.
00:09:55.760 And it made me really think that we have more power, you know, what do we have to, to, to turn the outcome to the good, you know.
00:10:05.860 And, and I was, I was just thinking that we have the word to stand on.
00:10:10.200 That never changes.
00:10:11.440 All the promises are ours.
00:10:13.840 Today, I have such a beautiful word I have to tell you.
00:10:17.220 In Psalm 34, verse 10, those who seek the Lord shall not lack any good thing.
00:10:23.460 You know, in my past, the only thing through storms that was standing was the word.
00:10:28.680 The Lord and the word, they are unstoppable, unshakable, and unbreakable.
00:10:36.400 And, and we can be more than conquerors through Jesus Christ.
00:10:40.980 And we can be overcomer.
00:10:43.400 And, you know, I was thinking, what did we teach our children?
00:10:47.580 I was, you know, looking back and, and just writing down, what did we teach our children?
00:10:53.580 And then the Lord gave me a very important sentence.
00:10:57.180 He said, you teach them to respect authorities, but they have to learn to stand against tyranny.
00:11:06.200 And so this is very, and I said to the Lord, I didn't really teach them.
00:11:10.440 And he said, yes, you did, by your example.
00:11:13.900 So, and that's what I want to give to the American people.
00:11:16.980 And if the authorities go against God's law, we must obey God rather than men. 0.56
00:11:22.980 God's law is higher than men's. 0.98
00:11:25.420 And Jesus says, we need to fear God more than men.
00:11:29.860 Now, so I feel this is the time not to sit on the sidelines, but to become bold for the Lord.
00:11:37.340 And how can we push back the darkness we see covering the land?
00:11:41.920 You know, that was the question that came to my mind.
00:11:44.180 How can we push back the darkness by turning on the light?
00:11:50.820 What is the answer?
00:11:53.360 How do you push back just turning on the light?
00:11:56.560 Yes.
00:11:57.260 Jesus said, we are the light and we are the salt.
00:12:01.800 We make the world thirsty for the living water and we show them the light of God.
00:12:08.020 If we turn up our lights, you know, just shine on Jesus, look on Jesus and be the light he has called us to be.
00:12:16.560 That's how we win this battle.
00:12:18.620 Look up to Jesus.
00:12:20.100 He will teach us what to do.
00:12:21.840 He will give us solutions.
00:12:24.100 Hannah-Laurie, thank you so much.
00:12:27.120 Um, I hope someday that we can, um, that I would have the honor to be there at a swearing in ceremony and you become an American citizen if you would choose to do that.
00:12:37.640 But, uh, you're, you're an amazing woman.
00:12:39.600 You have a great, great family.
00:12:41.440 And Kevin, please keep us involved in the, the homeschool legal defense association.
00:12:45.840 You guys do so much great work.
00:12:48.320 Um, you know, it's not only religious, but it is also the fact that, you know, people don't, people don't want their, their, uh, the, the unions and the power doesn't want you to have control of your children.
00:13:02.040 And it is so important that people like you and your organization, uh, do what you do and anything we can do to support you.
00:13:10.460 Let me know.
00:13:11.620 Kevin, thank you.
00:13:12.580 Well do you, Glenn.
00:13:12.840 Thanks so much.
00:13:13.300 You bet.
00:13:13.560 Hannah-Laurie, God bless. 0.99
00:13:14.720 Thank you.
00:13:15.140 God bless you.
00:13:16.280 Thank you for having me.
00:13:17.320 You bet.
00:13:17.720 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:13:21.100 Mr. Bill O'Reilly.
00:13:23.960 Got the choir there today, huh?
00:13:25.800 Yeah, got the choir.
00:13:27.140 Yeah.
00:13:27.460 Those people union people or whatever?
00:13:29.560 Uh, absolutely.
00:13:31.060 This is a union shop through and through.
00:13:32.700 Good union jobs here.
00:13:34.980 So, uh.
00:13:36.240 How you been, Beck?
00:13:37.160 I'm good.
00:13:37.820 How are you?
00:13:38.400 I know.
00:13:38.920 How are you?
00:13:39.800 Yeah, I'm, uh, the same, which is tragic for everybody.
00:13:42.560 It is.
00:13:43.300 Mainly you.
00:13:43.980 Uh, mainly you.
00:13:45.320 No improvement here at all.
00:13:46.460 Yeah.
00:13:46.780 Um, let's just start with just a little bit on the news of the week.
00:13:50.480 Sure.
00:13:51.060 Uh, how, how is it, uh, Bill, that the, uh, that our CIA and, and nobody had any information
00:13:59.040 of, of, of this prior to, uh, and yet the wall street journal, according to their sources,
00:14:05.340 24 hours after we're like, yeah, this is, this is what happened.
00:14:09.900 How, I mean, what happened there?
00:14:12.320 Um, I wish I knew what happened because CNN is directly contradicting the wall street journal.
00:14:18.860 And that was my message of the day on billoreilly.com this morning, which I know you and Stu, uh,
00:14:24.420 as soon as you get up, you're in there.
00:14:26.160 Yeah.
00:14:26.680 But, um, you know, I wrote killing the killers, which basically praised, uh, the U S Intel services
00:14:34.420 and Israel for, um, a very good job after nine 11.
00:14:39.460 Right.
00:14:39.740 And they did it and we chronicled it and then we wiped out, uh, most of the ISIS and Al Qaeda 0.93
00:14:46.000 terrorists and, and all of that.
00:14:48.500 So it is shocking.
00:14:49.280 And I use that word shocking literally that nobody would know that this was in the planning
00:14:55.640 stage.
00:14:56.280 Now, wall street journal came out and said, according to Hamas sources, the Iranians engineered
00:15:04.440 all this beginning in August.
00:15:06.180 And it was a flat out declarative sentence.
00:15:08.940 That's what they said.
00:15:10.200 No nuance.
00:15:11.200 Right.
00:15:12.180 Five days later, CNN comes out on the air and says, no, Iran didn't have anything to
00:15:17.360 do with it.
00:15:18.100 Iran didn't have anything to do with it, which is pretty hard to believe, uh, based upon what
00:15:22.980 we know.
00:15:23.860 There is no way Hamas does anything this size without their sugar daddy saying it's okay. 0.94
00:15:32.680 Yeah.
00:15:33.040 And I know you read killing the killers and that's how you got that information because it's
00:15:36.860 true.
00:15:37.600 It is.
00:15:38.080 It is.
00:15:38.940 And, and you, you're looking at a region that is not full of subtleties here.
00:15:44.560 Okay.
00:15:45.440 It's not.
00:15:46.440 Wow.
00:15:46.860 Okay.
00:15:47.260 Good.
00:15:47.640 Yeah.
00:15:47.720 I mean, I'm a simple man.
00:15:48.860 You know that.
00:15:49.280 Yeah, sure.
00:15:50.000 Yeah.
00:15:50.260 Yeah.
00:15:50.540 So, uh, the Hamas doesn't make weapons.
00:15:53.240 They don't have any factories that manufacture rockets and, uh, rifles and machine guns and
00:16:00.500 hand grenades.
00:16:01.220 I don't have that.
00:16:01.840 And strangely, AK, uh, not AKs, but, uh, AR-15s.
00:16:06.900 That's a strange.
00:16:07.840 Look, so they have to be given them and yeah, Russia and China would do it.
00:16:14.020 They're evil enough to do it, but we could track that fairly easily.
00:16:18.980 However, once you get inside Iran, it gets more difficult because it's such a closed society
00:16:24.660 and it's, uh, a place where Intel is very rare to come out of there.
00:16:30.520 Israel has better Intel than the USA inside of Iran.
00:16:37.240 And so I'm sitting here.
00:16:39.480 I don't know.
00:16:40.240 How do I know?
00:16:41.420 Right.
00:16:41.600 All I can tell you is what has happened in the past, but you know, this whole story has
00:16:46.740 been misreported by the world media leading the United States lead in charge.
00:16:51.720 This isn't about Palestinians versus Jews.
00:16:56.720 That's not what this is about.
00:16:58.480 What this is about is a movement, an evil movement that wants to destroy the Jewish people. 0.99
00:17:08.400 These are Nazis. 0.67
00:17:10.420 There's no difference between Hamas and Al Qaeda and ISIS and the Third Reich. 0.96
00:17:17.320 Right.
00:17:18.460 It's the same thing.
00:17:20.220 Mm-hmm.
00:17:20.500 So when you understand that, then you understand why Israel has to provide security
00:17:28.220 for the people that live there.
00:17:30.180 So, and when you provide security, it's hard to do that.
00:17:34.940 You got to be tough to do it.
00:17:37.220 So let me, I'm going to get into, uh, this, uh, here in about 20 minutes on, you know,
00:17:43.480 the role of Iran and, and Russia and everything else and what they would like to see happen.
00:17:48.180 How do you think this ends here?
00:17:51.000 It doesn't end.
00:17:53.120 No, I know that, but does it go back and does it go back to the usual kind of, they do this,
00:18:00.460 then they do that? 0.95
00:18:01.120 Or does this grow into a regional or, or God forbid, a global war?
00:18:06.380 Well, look, I can't speculate on that.
00:18:09.140 I can tell you with certainty that the Israeli armed forces are now going to go in and decimate 0.98
00:18:15.240 all the infrastructure that Hamas had in Gaza.
00:18:19.060 So it's gone.
00:18:20.300 Now the Hamas leadership, they're out of there already.
00:18:23.600 Yeah.
00:18:23.740 Okay.
00:18:23.920 They're in, they're in London or wherever they go.
00:18:26.980 They're gone.
00:18:28.240 But the, uh, Israeli defense forces are going to go in and they're going to dismantle everything 0.99
00:18:34.680 and make it almost uninhabitable.
00:18:37.360 Now what should happen is the United Nations should step up and take women and children in 1.00
00:18:43.160 Egypt, because Egypt can't, doesn't have the infrastructure to do it, and set up refugee 1.00
00:18:48.920 centers so that people don't starve to death.
00:18:51.500 Yes.
00:18:51.940 No men, just women and children. 0.99
00:18:54.720 Now where's the United Nations?
00:18:56.720 Where's Biden leading that?
00:18:58.660 Is that hard?
00:18:59.900 No.
00:19:01.080 I mean, I took a bus through Gaza.
00:19:03.280 I know what it is.
00:19:04.520 I know.
00:19:05.240 All right.
00:19:05.660 So we don't hear any of that.
00:19:08.260 And I'm just sitting here and it just drives me blank and nuts about the ignorance on this
00:19:15.760 whole story.
00:19:17.160 Yeah.
00:19:17.340 And that, that includes all the major networks.
00:19:19.700 These people don't know what, they don't know the history of it.
00:19:22.260 They don't know why it's there.
00:19:23.660 They don't know who Hamas is.
00:19:25.480 They don't know how Iran operates.
00:19:27.440 They don't know anything.
00:19:28.760 So, Bill, I want to change the subject, because I want to make sure we talk about something
00:19:32.160 that I think is actually, you know, I know you well enough to know that, you know, you're
00:19:37.240 seeing, your book is about the witch hunts, and you see the relationship between the witch
00:19:45.180 hunts that were happening then and the witch hunts now.
00:19:47.680 For instance, you know, going after anybody who says, hey, I think your ideas to, you know,
00:19:53.460 alter the globe's temperature might just destroy everybody.
00:19:57.500 And basically, you're a witch, and they hunt you down.
00:20:02.000 Look, go ahead.
00:20:03.460 Killing the Witches is a contemporary book.
00:20:07.420 It happened in 1692 in Salem.
00:20:10.200 Twenty human beings were executed for nothing because nine-year-old girls accused them of
00:20:15.620 being witches.
00:20:16.800 It's harrowing what actually happened.
00:20:19.160 But this is a book about evil.
00:20:21.460 It's about evil.
00:20:22.380 And the witch hunt is back because of the cancel culture. 1.00
00:20:26.140 What do you think the cancel culture is?
00:20:28.260 It's a witch hunt.
00:20:29.440 Take the human being off the board. 0.71
00:20:34.520 Ruin their life.
00:20:37.340 Let me get this real clear to everybody.
00:20:40.320 That's the cancel culture.
00:20:43.100 You're done.
00:20:44.300 Just like in 1692, if some nine-year-old girl said, goody so-and-so is a witch and came 0.86
00:20:53.380 in the middle of the night and told me to sign the devil's book, you had a rope around your
00:20:58.500 neck.
00:21:00.240 So, me being the benevolent guy I am, this is the 13th killing book.
00:21:05.900 I explain it in vivid detail, put you on the Mayflower, and Beck, you and I, Stu might
00:21:12.120 have been okay.
00:21:12.900 We would not have been on that voyage.
00:21:15.360 That was harrowing.
00:21:16.920 Yeah.
00:21:17.160 So, Americans go, oh, Pilgrim's Mayflower passed the stuffing. 0.85
00:21:20.920 No.
00:21:21.580 No.
00:21:22.020 It was brutal.
00:21:23.580 Yeah.
00:21:23.760 I would have done everything I could to get on Bezos' yacht to get over here.
00:21:27.800 That's right.
00:21:29.080 Anyway, so, Bill, first of all, everything that is going on now with the witch hunt is
00:21:37.600 political.
00:21:38.720 It's all about political and power.
00:21:40.740 But this started with young girls.
00:21:43.240 So, what was the motive for the beginning of the witch hunt back then?
00:21:49.560 Power.
00:21:50.980 It's the same thing.
00:21:51.920 So, the ministers and judges who ran the Massachusetts Bay Colony had power over the people because
00:22:02.200 they were telling them they were going to hell.
00:22:04.400 And they were punishing them for everything.
00:22:07.780 And the people were scared to death because the devil was right around a corner.
00:22:11.940 So, they used the theology, the Puritan theology, which is insane, to keep the people subjugated.
00:22:18.820 The exact same thing is happening now, but as you pointed out rightly, it's political.
00:22:25.060 You go up against the cancel culture 100% generated by the progressive left.
00:22:32.020 100%.
00:22:32.420 You go up against them, they're going to try to destroy you.
00:22:36.580 And Beck and O'Reilly are the poster guys for that.
00:22:40.600 Every day of my life, and I'm sure your life, we're attacked by somebody.
00:22:44.960 That's a...
00:22:46.960 Somebody trying to, you know, oh, you're a racist, you're a homophobe, you're a racist.
00:22:50.580 It's getting boring, quite honestly.
00:22:52.540 It's just getting boring.
00:22:53.980 Come up with something.
00:22:54.460 No, I know, but it's...
00:22:55.640 I know, I know, I know.
00:22:56.900 The toll it takes.
00:22:58.320 I will tell you.
00:22:59.500 I know.
00:23:00.320 The toll it takes on the family and it destroys people.
00:23:02.920 But I have to tell you, the most interesting threat I've had lately, or, you know, people
00:23:08.220 stop me in the streets all the time.
00:23:09.600 You're a horrible racist, blah, blah, blah. 0.71
00:23:11.140 Well, I was in New York and I was walking across the street and a guy who just with very
00:23:16.040 little energy, I saw it coming.
00:23:17.680 I knew he was going to do something.
00:23:19.680 And so I walked by him and we're in the crosswalk and he just passes me and all he said was,
00:23:24.980 die.
00:23:25.900 And I thought, you know, he's efficient.
00:23:28.120 He is efficient.
00:23:30.380 That is...
00:23:31.100 That's okay.
00:23:32.140 I got it.
00:23:32.740 I got the message.
00:23:34.200 Bill, hang on just a second, because you were talking about the Puritans theology being
00:23:38.400 crazy.
00:23:38.860 It is actually the reason why the witch trials went on for so long over in Europe and killed
00:23:47.640 500,000 people.
00:23:49.260 And this only killed 20 is because a couple of preachers stood up and said, you're misreading
00:23:58.240 the Bible here.
00:23:59.300 You have it wrong.
00:24:01.040 And it was stopped almost immediately.
00:24:04.100 Now, not everybody confessed that they, you know, that they were wrong, but it did stop.
00:24:11.060 Is that a different take?
00:24:12.040 Now, you're talking about Europe or America?
00:24:13.760 America.
00:24:14.680 No, no.
00:24:15.880 That's why you need to read this book back.
00:24:18.200 The only reason it stopped was because the loons in Salem, 25 miles north of Boston, accused
00:24:27.020 the wife of the governor, Mary Phipps, of being a witch. 0.95
00:24:32.040 The governor, William Phipps, was in Maine fighting the Abenaki Indians.
00:24:36.580 Right.
00:24:36.960 He comes back and, excuse me, Your Excellency, your wife's under arrest for being a witch. 1.00
00:24:44.120 That, and then he had the militia, Phipps did, and he just put an end to it.
00:24:49.320 There were some clerics who spoke out, but not many, because if you spoke out against
00:24:54.840 the witch trials, the next day, you were accused of being a witch.
00:24:59.280 And I understand that.
00:24:59.900 Just like if you speak out against the cancel culture today, they're going to come at you
00:25:04.260 with something.
00:25:05.880 So why can't we stop it if we claim that, I don't know, Joe Biden's wife is a witch?
00:25:14.780 I mean, look, I'm not commenting on Jill, Jill is a good Jill.
00:25:20.620 No, I mean, you look at this, I mean, when they are called a witch now, many times, it
00:25:27.700 doesn't matter.
00:25:29.200 If they're part of the right philosophy, it doesn't matter.
00:25:32.480 Let me give you a quick story, because this is so horrendous.
00:25:35.200 ESPN Sportscaster, coveting Serena Williams' tennis match, says on the air, Serena Williams
00:25:40.780 is using guerrilla tactics, guerrilla, G-E-U-R, like hit and run, war tactics.
00:25:46.900 New York Times-Stringer writes, he called Serena Williams a guerrilla, G-O-R.
00:25:53.740 Okay, guy's fired by ESPN the next day.
00:25:57.260 He has a heart attack, Beck.
00:25:59.960 His life is ruined to this day.
00:26:03.120 Never an apology, nothing, out of work, won't work again.
00:26:08.060 Come on.
00:26:09.200 So what was the apology?
00:26:12.040 People need to rise up against this.
00:26:15.040 What was the apology after the Salem witch trials?
00:26:20.460 What happened after?
00:26:21.900 No, there was never an apology.
00:26:22.980 Nothing, nothing happened.
00:26:24.260 All of these guys, the judges made all the money, because when you were convicted of being
00:26:29.400 a witch, they took all your land and all your assets, and they divided it up among the 1.00
00:26:33.840 clerics and the judges in Salem.
00:26:36.500 They all got rich.
00:26:37.240 There was never a prosecution of these people.
00:26:41.500 Now, most of them fell on bad times because of karma, and we detail that, about the girls' 0.60
00:26:49.280 lives were terrible.
00:26:51.020 Some of them went insane.
00:26:52.580 The girls who accused the people of being witches.
00:26:54.800 Killing the witches is a book about evil and the presence of evil on this planet right
00:27:03.800 now.
00:27:04.360 The last third of the book is now, modern times.
00:27:08.260 Did you know, Beck, you saw the movie The Exorcist, right?
00:27:11.000 Um, part of it, I've never been able to watch all of it, so it freaks me out.
00:27:15.260 I'm still seeing it six times.
00:27:17.700 He is the movie.
00:27:19.460 Okay.
00:27:20.320 Nine people died connected to the production of that movie.
00:27:25.820 Nine.
00:27:26.640 Well, you know what?
00:27:27.440 In the next 20 years, almost all of them will die.
00:27:31.660 No, but they died contemporaneously.
00:27:34.020 Oh, okay.
00:27:34.440 Okay.
00:27:34.940 All right.
00:27:35.360 Big word.
00:27:37.060 Okay?
00:27:37.540 So, I do believe, because I'm a Roman Catholic, there is an act of evil in the world, going
00:27:43.520 back to Hamas now. 0.96
00:27:44.960 Yeah.
00:27:45.160 All right?
00:27:45.640 That there is a force that people have, number one, have to recognize, and them to fight against.
00:27:54.720 So, when you see these loons at Harvard, when you see these commentators, these people all
00:28:00.860 over the world, justifying Hamas. 0.99
00:28:03.880 Yeah.
00:28:04.380 They are justifying evil.
00:28:07.320 Yeah.
00:28:08.320 And that is a theme of Killing the Witches.
00:28:11.260 Killing the Witches is available bookstores wherever.
00:28:14.460 You, I'm sure, can find it at BillOReilly.com.
00:28:17.760 You'll also find Bill's, you know, rant of the day or whatever, some crazy.
00:28:25.100 And you can get his no-spin news at BillOReilly.com.
00:28:29.220 Grab Killing the Witches. 1.00
00:28:30.700 Bill, as always, great to talk to you.
00:28:32.700 Thank you.
00:28:33.440 Okay, Bex.
00:28:34.160 Stay well, and thanks for having me.
00:28:35.720 God bless.
00:28:36.160 The best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:28:38.660 Welcome back to the program.
00:28:40.140 Justin Haskins, who is the co-author with me of The Great Reset, and co-author and researcher.
00:28:47.660 He actually heads up a team for Dark Future.
00:28:51.240 He also heads up a team of researchers at the Heartland Institute.
00:28:55.900 He's Socialist Research Center Director, Socialism.
00:29:00.360 He is not a socialist.
00:29:02.180 I just want to make that clear.
00:29:03.160 I'm not a socialist.
00:29:04.960 He's not a socialist.
00:29:05.480 He's been standing against it for quite some time.
00:29:07.960 And welcome back to the program.
00:29:09.280 Yesterday, we talked about how Alexander Dugan, everything that that man has predicted and said and planted the seeds, including what's happening with Azerbaijan and Armenia and Hamas and Iran and Israel today, Ukraine.
00:29:27.700 I mean, all of this stuff is coming to fruition, and people keep denying that he has anything to do that we should pay attention to.
00:29:36.920 But there's something else that is happening, and he was for this, and that is a new currency, a new world order of an axe.
00:29:50.700 I would call it an axis power.
00:29:52.340 He calls it an axis.
00:29:53.780 He does.
00:29:54.600 He calls it an axis, a new world axis of powers with Russia as one of the central figures.
00:30:02.120 Wow.
00:30:02.780 And they're building this now.
00:30:04.380 I mean, BRICS is really – we think of BRICS as, oh, well, this is the world getting together, and we're all going to – and this is bringing up – that's not the way Russia and Dugan have looked at BRICS, right?
00:30:16.480 Right.
00:30:17.100 BRICS is a direct – it's the rival that they're building to the G7, you know, United States, United Kingdom, those countries.
00:30:26.840 The most powerful westernized countries that we think of as being sort of the liberal in the old sense, in the John Adams sense, democracies, you know, and democratic republics.
00:30:36.780 The counter to that is BRICS. 0.92
00:30:39.140 Now, BRICS started around 20 years ago, and it was just four or five countries.
00:30:44.640 It was just Brazil, Russia, India, China, and I think South Africa joined after that.
00:30:49.340 And then that was it, and it started out as a small thing, and they've slowly been building new resources and coming together in a more sort of intergovernmental way, a more important way.
00:31:00.940 And then recently, they've put the foot on the gas, and they are now turning this into a real rival to the West.
00:31:08.680 And they've just recently, within the past few months, approved expanding BRICS dramatically, for the first time ever, from five nations to, I think they're adding five or six more nations.
00:31:20.140 They're 11, yeah.
00:31:20.880 And there's a bunch of other applicants that various BRIC members want in.
00:31:24.460 All the BRIC nations have to agree to bring somebody in. 0.96
00:31:27.000 Now, the people will tell you in the media that those are only the ones that have a problem with the United States, and they're afraid that we would retaliate against them, so they're kind of hiding in BRICS.
00:31:39.940 But I don't believe that to be the case.
00:31:41.940 No, that's obviously not the case.
00:31:43.780 I mean, South Africa is not that.
00:31:47.080 Argentina is one of the countries that's just now coming in.
00:31:50.520 That's not that.
00:31:52.560 Ethiopia is one of those.
00:31:54.160 I don't think Egypt would qualify as one of those either.
00:31:58.580 Saudi Arabia, they're surely not that.
00:32:01.680 And we used to have a great relationship with Saudi Arabia.
00:32:04.500 They were very important, and not anymore.
00:32:06.520 That's all falling apart.
00:32:07.820 Why?
00:32:08.620 I think one of the most important things to keep in mind about BRICS is they are doing, they have had the benefit of seeing our failures and our mistakes, meaning the United States and the West, over the past half century.
00:32:21.740 They're looking at the economic mistakes, not other things, economic mistakes, and they're saying, how do we do this better?
00:32:27.860 And they're doing all those things.
00:32:29.220 They're building a new development bank.
00:32:31.260 They are bringing in the manufacturing producers of the world, so they're not just consumers of goods.
00:32:37.200 They're producing goods, like China, for example, is the biggest one of that, right?
00:32:41.100 They are building a new currency, and all indications are that new currency, which they're keeping secret, is going to be some kind of gold-backed digital-type currency.
00:32:51.480 Correct.
00:32:51.900 At least to begin with.
00:32:53.160 To begin with, right.
00:32:55.160 And they are bringing in people who have access and control over natural resources and willing to use them, to sell them, to produce them.
00:33:04.320 How many of them are the world oil producers?
00:33:07.580 So, out of the top 10 biggest producers of oil, we're talking countries, all of them are now in BRICS or are about to go into BRICS.
00:33:18.160 The only two exceptions are the United States and Canada.
00:33:21.680 Every other one.
00:33:22.880 Every single other one.
00:33:24.540 So, that'll show you how serious the rest of the world is on clean energy and wind power.
00:33:30.600 So, let me just say this, because there is always kind of a quiet argument on what made America great, and I think you'd have to define great.
00:33:42.700 De Tocqueville talked about what made America great was our ethics and our churches.
00:33:48.540 You could find it in the pulpits.
00:33:51.080 People were good.
00:33:52.600 We were great because we were first good.
00:33:55.180 And we adhered to the principles of God, which made us self-reliant.
00:34:03.840 It made us work hard and try not to take the bread off the sweat of another man's brow. 0.94
00:34:10.680 We were honest, law-abiding.
00:34:12.940 Generally speaking, that's the way it was.
00:34:15.940 We've had our problems.
00:34:16.980 But that's what made America great, made us charitable and bringing people here and giving everybody an opportunity.
00:34:26.900 And again, it's been a rough go, but that's it.
00:34:29.700 Now, if you want to just look at the economics of what made America a powerhouse, that's different.
00:34:36.600 And let's just go through these.
00:34:38.480 And I'm going to read them one by one.
00:34:39.680 And you tell me if we have it or if BRICS has it.
00:34:43.720 Yep.
00:34:44.040 Okay?
00:34:45.360 So, let's see.
00:34:47.240 Low regulation.
00:34:49.500 Absolutely not.
00:34:50.840 You're probably, depending on where you are in BRICS, you will have that or you won't have that.
00:34:56.240 You probably have to be in bed with government in one fashion or another.
00:34:58.920 But if the government likes you, yeah, absolutely.
00:35:01.500 And certainly on certain things like certain natural resources, mining, the really important stuff.
00:35:07.020 Right.
00:35:07.400 Yeah.
00:35:07.600 But I mean, you know, it used to be the case that anybody that had an idea could come here and start it.
00:35:15.720 And you didn't.
00:35:16.740 I mean, Bill Gates says he couldn't have started, you know, Microsoft now.
00:35:20.620 Right.
00:35:20.820 The system was set up for entrepreneurs and people with ideas and new ways of doing things.
00:35:27.320 Yes.
00:35:27.580 Low government regulation.
00:35:28.940 We are the opposite of that now.
00:35:30.560 Yes.
00:35:31.700 We had the world's resources and we were willing to use them.
00:35:37.100 So, we have more resources here in America than any other continent, any other place in the world.
00:35:45.580 We've now sealed all those off.
00:35:49.180 Correct.
00:35:49.900 The resources of the rest of the world with BRICS and will they use them? 1.00
00:35:54.580 They absolutely will use them.
00:35:55.900 I think that's the primary, one of the primary reasons these countries are joining is so that they can use it and trade it.
00:36:01.320 So, we had skilled, hardworking, cheap labor.
00:36:06.940 We don't have that now.
00:36:08.680 No.
00:36:09.140 And we don't have the work ethic that we used to.
00:36:11.520 Absolutely not.
00:36:12.220 Do the BRICS countries.
00:36:14.040 Obviously.
00:36:14.880 Yes.
00:36:15.240 Some of the biggest manufacturers in the world are in BRICS.
00:36:18.820 We had cheap and plentiful energy.
00:36:22.420 We don't now.
00:36:23.520 No.
00:36:23.900 And we're deliberately trying to make it worse.
00:36:26.420 Yes.
00:36:27.640 We had gold-backed currency.
00:36:31.320 We don't.
00:36:32.100 They will.
00:36:33.200 Correct.
00:36:33.440 The most important thing is we had rule of law.
00:36:37.840 That's why people came here.
00:36:39.900 They came for a couple of reasons.
00:36:41.900 They knew that they could start a business and you didn't have to bribe everybody.
00:36:47.040 They knew that if you had a good idea and it was yours, you might have to fight with it for court, but court would be fair.
00:36:54.960 And it wouldn't always go to the big-moneyed person.
00:36:57.840 It could go to the little guy if he was telling the truth.
00:37:02.040 We don't have that anymore.
00:37:03.480 No.
00:37:03.720 We don't have a rule of law.
00:37:05.540 We're becoming a country at the very top.
00:37:09.040 You bribe your way in and you can get absolutely anything.
00:37:13.540 You also could keep the spoils of what you made.
00:37:17.240 Yep.
00:37:17.740 You can't here now.
00:37:20.600 That's why BRICS is so dangerous to us because we have lost absolutely everything that makes us an industrial giant. 1.00
00:37:30.840 Yes.
00:37:31.540 There's no question about it.
00:37:33.280 There's just absolutely no question about it.
00:37:35.200 And BRICS has learned from that.
00:37:37.140 And what happened in the wake of the invasion of Ukraine and the way the West reacted to that, and I'm not trying to criticize all – I understand that was a complicated situation.
00:37:49.440 No.
00:37:49.620 But when they started freezing assets for Russia and they started –
00:37:54.040 Yes.
00:37:54.140 Kicking you off of swift.
00:37:55.180 Yeah.
00:37:55.480 When they started kicking people off of swift, driving these countries into the arms of – this is exactly what Dugan wants.
00:38:01.820 This is the kind of thing that he talks about.
00:38:03.580 Western overreach leading to these other nations that have tolerated being in business with the West for a long time suddenly realizing, you know what, we can't do this anymore.
00:38:13.540 Because if they can do this to Russia over what Russia considers a territorial conflict, then why wouldn't they do it to China? 0.82
00:38:21.420 They're a human rights violator.
00:38:22.980 Why wouldn't they do it to all these countries in the Middle East? 1.00
00:38:25.140 By American standards, they're human rights violators, right?
00:38:28.260 So they could do it to any of us.
00:38:30.180 That's what these countries in the East are being told, and that's what they're thinking.
00:38:33.340 And it's not consistent.
00:38:37.220 Saudi Arabia?
00:38:38.900 Right.
00:38:39.640 Not real good.
00:38:41.140 Not real good for the Jews, the gays, the religious – anybody. 1.00
00:38:48.280 Really horrible.
00:38:50.000 Yet it's okay.
00:38:50.840 But when we select – when we decide you are no longer my friend, those same things that we were cool with, all of a sudden you're demonized for and kicked out of the club.
00:39:05.740 Yeah.
00:39:06.540 You can't build – you cannot build a civilization with partners like that.
00:39:12.240 No.
00:39:12.620 It's either right or wrong.
00:39:13.880 Right.
00:39:14.180 And they understand that this is just sort of arbitrary when we decide to just destroy people and when we decide to let it go.
00:39:21.480 Correct.
00:39:21.760 And that's why they realize if they don't build their own superstructure where they can control their own destinies and create this multipolar world where, you know, China gets to be in charge of its little – its kingdom and Iran gets to be in charge of its kingdom and Russia its kingdom where they have their own rules. 0.59
00:39:40.960 And we all just kind of leave each other alone.
00:39:42.620 Like, we don't – maybe we don't all agree on what we're doing to our people and whatever.
00:39:46.960 Maybe we think some of us are human rights violators.
00:39:49.160 Doesn't matter.
00:39:49.800 We all just agree to disagree and let's just do business with each other and let's just make lots of money and become really powerful and control our parts of the world.
00:40:00.040 Then we don't need to worry about Western values, Western ideas.
00:40:03.940 And that is so persuasive to all of – and you could imagine why, right?
00:40:08.720 I mean, it's so persuasive to all of these regimes all over the world.
00:40:12.480 I tell you, it'd be persuasive to me in some ways.
00:40:15.160 I know.
00:40:15.700 I mean, because you're like, this doesn't work.
00:40:18.220 This – what we're doing is not going to work.
00:40:21.260 And nobody in America is going to – we're not going to have food, energy, or anything.
00:40:26.780 We will become a third world country quickly if we don't get off this path.
00:40:32.180 And I can see a lot of people saying, well, I want to do that.
00:40:35.480 And you can't do that.
00:40:37.700 Right.
00:40:38.040 And that's part of the appeal that Alexander Dugan and people like that are trying to make.
00:40:43.280 You can find out about this and so much more in our book, Dark Future.
00:40:53.180 We have a whole chapter on Alexander Dugan and why it is important you understand him.
00:40:59.800 He is directly connected to what's happening in – with Iran and I believe Hamas and Hezbollah and the RGC and what's happening with Israel.
00:41:11.260 He is – he is the designer of what happened in Ukraine. 0.57
00:41:16.580 And it's happening everywhere, including in the United States.
00:41:22.140 And as I just said, these things are – you know, they're attractive.
00:41:27.580 Some of these ideas are attractive, but they are not our friends.
00:41:31.980 The only thing we can do is to restore all of the things that we have lost.
00:41:37.720 Restore the rule of law.
00:41:40.180 Restore the idea of hard work.
00:41:43.860 Destroy any corruption and bribery.
00:41:46.580 Reset these things back to their constitutional settings.
00:41:51.360 That will give us new life.
00:41:54.740 Not a new kind of entire new idea and throw out the American idea.
00:42:00.620 That's what Dugan wants.
00:42:02.680 Either that or just to put us out and turn out our lights.
00:42:07.460 Either way, those are bad.
00:42:10.040 Restoring the constitutional settings is the only way forward.
00:42:14.180 Justin, thank you so much.
00:42:15.360 Thanks, Glenn.
00:42:15.660 Justin Haskins, Heartland Institute Socialism Research Center director
00:42:20.180 and co-author of Dark Future, which you can get everywhere.
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