00:11:22.960And you will get very few words from the actual president.
00:11:26.900He will do very, very little and try to avoid the spotlight because every time he talks, he's a literal embarrassment to all of the country.
00:14:36.360And if, you know, if you look at where we've been and the things we called crazy back then, in fact, this was said before, this happened to be said in 2013, and America went wild when it was a talk show host on MSNBC.
00:15:10.400Part of it is we have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families and recognize that kids belong to whole communities.
00:15:18.340Once it's everybody's responsibility and not just the households, then we start making better investments.
00:15:23.420Okay, that is exactly what the president means when he says, you know, it's our collective children.
00:15:46.540But this is, of course, why the strategy is to keep him in his basement and not for him to speak because he says things like this.
00:15:52.960This is reminiscent of Genghis Khan and also reminiscent of the guy in Virginia, McAuliffe, who ran and got on stage and said, hey, actually, you shouldn't have any input in how your kids are taught.
00:16:04.140That's the thing you're not supposed to say, right?
00:16:06.500He keeps saying the things you're not supposed to say.
00:16:09.180You're supposed to do those things as a good progressive.
00:16:11.960You're not supposed to admit them in public.
00:16:16.540This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.
00:17:08.100And, you know, I appreciate you having me on the program, and I appreciate your listeners actually trying to figure out what's going on because it's important.
00:17:18.500You know, the Fox News channel led to Donald Trump being elected president.
00:17:24.300That's a pretty strong historical situation.
00:17:29.460Donald Trump would not have been president if not for the Fox News channel.
00:20:33.160The other voting machine company, which really isn't that big a concern because they only had one county, L.A. County, that they did business with in the last election.
00:20:42.540So they'll get paid off, and it's not a big deal.
00:20:45.320But then they have the shareholders, the people that bought Fox News stock, that company's stock, and they're getting hammered, and they're going to sue people inside Fox News.
00:25:09.560It's six, almost to the week, six years that I left.
00:25:14.140Because the balkanization of the news driven by social media and the availability that people can watch whenever they want on their devices has lessened the impact that the cables and the network news used to have.
00:25:34.720So, yeah, he's not going to be seen on a channel every night.
00:25:39.480But I could argue that in my operation, since I left Fox News, I've had four number one best-selling books, tens of millions of dollars in revenue for my television operation.
00:25:52.740I've got 300 radio stations carrying my daily commentary.
00:26:58.380So many – most television news presentations, you turn on the show, you know exactly what you're going to get because you get it every night.
00:27:08.440But Carlson, his talent was that he would come after situations in a different way.
00:27:17.700Now, if I had produced his program, I would have required more discipline and not – because he got himself into trouble on a number of occasions when he didn't have to.
00:28:09.860No matter how loyal you are, no matter how much money you made them, no matter what the circumstances, if they feel you're a liability, it's avalanche time for you.
00:28:53.280So, I just talked to Bill O'Reilly and his take on Tucker Carlson was that this is because of the threats of lawsuits.
00:29:06.100For instance, Ray Epps was on 60 Minutes on Sunday.
00:29:10.320It's not only just to destroy voices, but this gravely hurts the Trump campaign as well.
00:29:18.800What is your opinion on what happened with Tucker Carlson?
00:29:21.400Well, Bill and I have had our disagreements, but he's brilliant.
00:29:26.680However, this is another disagreement.
00:29:28.540I don't think that Fox would be scared by that Ray Epps lawsuit at all.
00:29:34.420And I also think all the reporting that they got scared by this Abby Grossberg's lawsuit, a disgruntled, fired, former low-level producer for Tucker, and at one point Maria, scared them even a little.
00:30:24.500Tucker's in the news every week for yet another thing.
00:30:27.060It is possible Rupert reached the end of his tether for Tucker.
00:30:30.860And there are reports that there may be some emails in connection with the Dominion lawsuit that we haven't seen that they have in which Tucker lambasts people like Rupert.
00:30:43.940I also find it hard to believe that would lead him to fire Tucker because Rupert's been around the block.
00:31:08.100Look, they do have to worry about shareholder lawsuits, which are coming in now in the wake of Dominion.
00:31:12.740And it's not entirely Rupert's shop anymore.
00:31:15.400He does have a board he has to answer to.
00:31:17.000I also think that if they have any desire to sell Fox News, and there's been rumblings about that, especially once Rupert is gone, they're going to want it to be, quote, more mainstream.
00:31:31.140And getting rid of Tucker would be a good step.
00:31:34.480But getting rid of Dan Bongino would be another step.
00:31:37.220Maria Bartiromo might be another one, though I'm told Rupert absolutely loves her.
00:31:41.540So, it's probably not an accident she didn't go, even though they just paid out $800 million in connection with some of the things she said.
00:32:06.900You know, that always comes up, but it takes a lot for these cable providers to tell somebody like Fox, we're not going to carry you because of the controversial man at eight.
00:32:22.220I mean, you saw, like, when that happened to OAN, it was a big deal.
00:32:26.960And that was because the whole channel is controversial.
00:32:33.800Tucker's too much of a draw with the audience.
00:32:36.900And it would have to be a uniform position by, you know, DirecTV and Time Warner Cable and all of these people, which it wouldn't be.
00:32:43.660Fox is too much of a moneymaker for the cable providers, too.
00:32:47.660I don't know what happened, but I do believe there's no way it happened without personal sign-off by Rupert.
00:32:54.980So, you left at the height of your career to go to NBC.
00:33:00.120I left arguably at the height to start the blaze, which was crazy insane.
00:33:11.480Tucker is gone now, but I don't think he's going to get a mainstream cable network or show, and I don't think he would want it.
00:33:20.840But now there's endless opportunities for him to make gobs of money if that's what he's looking to do and to have a real impact, just not with any corporation, right?
00:33:44.020If he's smart, Tucker will do a subscription show where he never has to worry about advertiser boycotts again.
00:33:52.260You know, you always have to worry about lawsuits.
00:33:54.100You have to say factual, but there's insurance for that and so on.
00:33:57.260But I think he'd probably do a subscription service, and if he goes directly from Fox, he'll be well-positioned to just crush it.
00:34:03.900I don't think he'll wind up signing up with a larger media ecosystem, whether it's the Blaze or the Daily Wire.
00:34:11.480I just think if he does it, he'll do it on his own, just knowing Tucker.
00:34:17.780But, look, there are certain trade-offs.
00:34:20.240You and I are in the unique position of having worked at the very, very top of this cable company and then gone off on our own.
00:34:28.580For sure, your influence wanes in some ways.
00:34:32.800You know, I mean, I don't know that Tucker's going to have Ron DeSantis personally crafting his Ukraine policy to please Tucker if he's hosting a digital show.
00:34:43.980You know, there's something about the Fox powerhouse that makes a lot of these politicians bend the knee, and Tucker in particular in that role.
00:34:52.740However, it's also the case that, you know, who's more influential, Ben Shapiro or Wolf Blitzer?
00:35:04.540There are your voice, Ben Shapiro's, Joe Rogan.
00:35:07.380A lot of these voices in the digital space are much more relevant than 95% of the cable news anchors.
00:35:15.240So, Tucker will have a bit of an influence drop in that way, but he will no longer have to do Fox's bidding.
00:35:23.680He will be able to cover whatever story he wants in whatever way he wants.
00:35:27.040And believe me, though the outside world might not know it, there were constraints put on him by Fox News.
00:35:32.180And there were things that he wanted to say that he couldn't because you're not allowed to shoot inside the tent.
00:35:36.460And he can be free now to just say whatever he wants as soon as he gets out of his non-competence.
00:35:41.560I will tell you that while it doesn't seem like your influence is as big, something has happened to me on influence in the last six months.
00:35:53.400I was at a store before Easter, a grocery store, and my wife said, oh, we forgot this.
00:36:42.460And only very, very old people are watching it.
00:36:45.260And he said, if somebody stops me on the street who's over the age of 50 and says, oh, I love your work, I always know they know me from Fox News.
00:36:53.440And anybody under that age, I know they know me from my podcast.
00:37:02.480Cable news has still got some loyal viewers for sure, but not to sound like I'm 200, but the kids today are watching digital shows, YouTube, and podcasts.
00:37:15.800They don't sit in front of the television 8 o'clock at night anymore.
00:37:19.820That's why the advertising demo is dropping precipitously for all of these anchors.
00:37:24.740And so I do think for our ecosphere, where you and I now are, it's great that Tucker's leaving Fox, because he'll be another powerful voice, probably, in our space.
00:37:35.340And it's one less reason to tune into this stilted, let's face it, boring, predetermined way of programming the news that has to please Paul Ryan and Rupert Murdoch and Suzanne Scott.