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00:00:00.000 welcome to pat gray from pat gray unleashed uh podcast you can hear uh before this show

00:00:22.140 on blaze radio network or wherever you get your podcasts so you went through a lot of the detail

00:00:26.600 of this of what you see coming here in the last segment yeah but take out the detail for a second

00:00:32.640 your to boil your theory down here we oil is going to spike to levels that are

00:00:40.280 incredibly damaging to our economy and because of that we are going to continue to buy russian oil

00:00:51.620 maybe continue maybe try to buy iranian oil we're negotiating with them right freaking now the

00:00:59.540 iranians that's and by the way it's not damaging our economy it is the likely depression that we

00:01:08.280 will go into and possibly the end of the west because of the economic catastrophe that is coming

00:01:17.360 our way no other than that but other than that so listen i know everybody is i feel the same way

00:01:24.680 you know me this audience at least knows me you know i mean i see the suffering in ukraine in ukraine

00:01:36.060 and the ukrainian eyes i see the decency of those people i see the willingness to be free nobody is

00:01:44.140 standing up for freedom anymore we we're the last hope of the world okay i don't want those people

00:01:52.300 to suffer and i don't want putin to win you cannot teach him that lesson but let's have the real

00:01:59.900 conversation here the one that no one is having we have already set a price on helping the ukrainian

00:02:07.840 people have we not for instance yes we're not willing to spend american lives correct are you

00:02:14.980 willing to go in now ask yourself this question are you willing to go in with troops full force no for

00:02:22.960 the uh ukrainian people nope nope yeah i mean we've said no yeah no i i'm not even said no to uh no flies

00:02:30.080 i don't i don't know that any americans want to do that i haven't heard anybody advocating for that

00:02:34.700 all right good so we've we've already then established what we are we're just haggling on

00:02:40.780 price okay yeah yeah right that's the truth that's the truth we are haggling on price and we say

00:02:48.120 american blood and quite honestly treasure and security because of all of the risks on that we've

00:02:55.360 already said no we've just done it too much and we're done with doing it correct and we don't want

00:03:00.120 to get into a war with russia that's that is that's not just american lives that you're talking

00:03:04.860 armageddon armageddon that's end of the world type stuff good so again if you believe in any of that

00:03:10.160 you know or for your own reason whatever your reason is if you say no i'm not willing to send

00:03:15.520 troops over there you've had you've you've said there's a price to that freedom right okay yeah so

00:03:22.420 that makes you not compassionate if you believe that that makes you already in the eyes of some

00:03:29.660 yeah you know me too not compassionate how can you say that when the suffering is going on so that

00:03:36.880 takes that argument off the table take that emotional argument off the table you mean you're not willing

00:03:43.300 to do everything to save these people no clearly as a country we're not because we won't send our own

00:03:48.940 troops in to help them okay so enough of the bull crap of the emotional side now let me ask you

00:03:56.180 we've already had one price established you are not willing to send in troops u.s troops into ukraine

00:04:03.560 that's price number one here's the other option that we are now going down without having the

00:04:10.840 conversation are you willing to within a year face a depression a depression and possibly the complete

00:04:23.180 destruction of the western economy food uh crisis like we haven't seen since the dust bowl

00:04:32.420 are you willing to pay that price possibly you lose your job you lose your money and your

00:04:40.440 family is struggling for food and energy prices that make it so you cannot really afford any gas

00:04:50.040 because it's eight dollars a gallon and i'm not talking about california i'm talking about everywhere

00:04:56.020 are you willing to pay that price for the people of ukraine i know this sounds horrible

00:05:02.340 but it has to be said are you willing to go through that no but what brings that on well hang on just

00:05:11.000 answer the question here yeah no but we you know we are obviously have to prioritize our own people

00:05:20.080 right correct and and so we do not have uh a we're not part of nato they're not part of nato we don't

00:05:27.660 have an agreement to defend them we can help them defend themselves that's what i think our role is

00:05:33.200 here if there is one if you're a conservative the answer is very easy for you because you believe in

00:05:39.640 the lifeboat theory you it was horrible but you had to if you were the titanic and you were in a lifeboat

00:05:47.320 now this isn't the same necessarily if there were three people in the lifeboat but if you were in a

00:05:53.260 lifeboat and it was it was filled you can't go back and get more people no matter you're listening

00:06:00.500 to their screams and it's horrible but everyone will drown that's why we believe in border security

00:06:06.840 we can't help the rest of the world if we drown because everybody's coming here right okay so it sounds 1.00

00:06:16.520 like it's not compassionate but it is rational compassion okay you can't kill yourself trying

00:06:24.740 to help somebody else it's not as if we're not doing anything here we're doing a lot okay here's

00:06:30.940 what brings this on pat the world revolves of the entire we learned this in 2008 the world revolves

00:06:40.060 around 100 a barrel oil it can handle spikes it can handle 120 as long as there's an end to that

00:06:49.720 you know what i mean but the the as long as it comes back down to 60 or yeah 40 so the the the

00:06:57.120 collapse in 08 the last straw to break the camel's back and let me ask you this question do you think

00:07:03.880 we're stronger today than we were in 2008 no you know okay so what the straw that broke the camels

00:07:12.680 back on our economy in 2008 that they say and i believe would have tanked the western banks and

00:07:21.220 economic system entirely that price was 140 dollars a barrel sustained for how long a few weeks a couple

00:07:30.420 weeks yeah not very long yeah all right we by cutting off oil right now and remember we're all saying

00:07:38.120 we gotta really hit them we're already at a hundred dollars a hundred and twenty dollars a barrel okay

00:07:43.860 already at 120 dollars a barrel um and we are currently negotiating with iran to supply the world

00:07:55.900 with the 10 percent of oil the world needs let me ask you this question who is more dangerous

00:08:05.240 to the american homeland the american people the american way of life vladimir putin or iran

00:08:14.940 um i think you believe it's iran um a a let me rephrase it a fully financed iran over a long period of

00:08:30.420 time i think you would you may turn the tables to iran but with 13 000 nuclear weapons i still think

00:08:37.420 vladimir putin's a bigger risk i agree i agree okay a bigger risk um but he is he has not been

00:08:46.040 hell-bent on um wiping out the american way of life we have had him in a cage now yeah lately right

00:08:54.440 and this is the question it has this turn has he turned over a new and that's what everybody is saying

00:08:59.400 this is not the putin of five years ago okay you keep hearing that so let's say we cut off all their

00:09:06.060 oil we collapse uh and maybe russia collapses but we don't take putin out it's just a disaster

00:09:15.800 nobody has nobody has any money we've collapsed the banking system you still have putin in russia

00:09:21.980 and you have a richer ayatollah in iran and you have the western world begging them for oil

00:09:30.000 this is not a good scenario we haven't made anything better no by that okay we just have to

00:09:39.000 have the discussion here because everybody is pushing for crazy things they're pushing for let's

00:09:46.760 do a no fly zone are you out of your mind that could end in nuclear war to save the ukrainian people

00:09:56.900 are you willing to be in a war where one nuclear missile is launched against the united states

00:10:04.800 oh god no of course not clear missiles no yes no no so were you willing to fight for them and do a

00:10:12.600 no fly zone if one missile is launched to poland no i know it doesn't matter right no one missile

00:10:21.520 launched to russia to russia and moscow no the answer is no we don't want nuclear war let's start 0.74

00:10:30.480 looking at the actual consequences and stop looking at it like fat americans who are like we control the

00:10:39.040 world we got all the power we don't anymore that has changed it can change i will listen now now that 0.81

00:10:48.640 i'm looking at what's happening and i figured out that missing piece remember i'm like wait a minute

00:10:53.520 something's wrong what's wrong is it's a trap you are dealing with marxist revolutionaries that are 0.61

00:11:02.180 running this country right now they want to collapse it for their own marxist reasons but you also have

00:11:10.600 the great reset that wants a collapse so they can reset and have it collapse right into their arms

00:11:18.460 okay you have forces inside the house wanting this collapse

00:11:25.600 so are we going to go along with it the only way we the only thing we should be saying

00:11:33.020 is open up the oil fields and the gas lines here in america you cannot do these kinds of sanctions

00:11:43.100 and shiv yourself at the same time we are empowering uh we are empowering china who's the winner in this china china

00:11:54.560 you look at who were empowering in the middle east iran and why because of some effing idea that we're going to

00:12:08.320 get off all petroleum to help heal the planet there will be nothing left of the american and the western society

00:12:18.460 unless you open up not the strategic reserves that's the craziest thing i've heard you're on the brink of

00:12:27.420 world war three and you want to take our military strategic oil reserves and just pass it out so we

00:12:35.260 can go to the movies so we can have an extra two days oh my gosh that's crazy two days i mean it's not

00:12:42.100 even a good idea when normal times are going on but when you're in a situation where war is is already

00:12:46.960 breaking out and we have allies one border away from where missiles are flying that's an insane idea so i want

00:12:55.160 the ukrainian people to know i am with you i am with you i would collapse russia and iran so fast with oil 0.99

00:13:05.000 if we weren't killing ourself but i'm sorry ukraine until the people in this country stand up

00:13:14.420 and absolutely at the gates of the white house demand that we open up our own reserves we cannot

00:13:23.240 help you we cannot help what does that mean you can't help we can't we what do you mean we're

00:13:28.780 going to do nothing i mean we're already doing stuff we are on the road to destruction but the

00:13:33.100 issue with helping ukraine is not look you're right compassion is compassion and i love compassion

00:13:38.120 the issue we can't shut down all of russia's oil i know it drives me crazy but listen i was for

00:13:46.560 shutting down russia's oil i've been for it but now when i see the missing piece something's wrong

00:13:54.500 something's wrong here's what's wrong it's a trap that's what's wrong we cannot do that we can supply

00:14:03.360 them with arms we can supply them with food we can send over doctors we can whatever they need

00:14:09.080 we can do that but we cannot collapse ourself and put ourselves in their position ready for

00:14:17.380 god knows who iran or china just to take it all no no this government is not on the right side and

00:14:30.780 when i say that i don't mean the iranian people ukrainian people what i mean is that they are on

00:14:36.460 the wrong side of the american people until they secure us first no no no that makes me very unpopular

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00:15:56.360 this is the glenbeck program welcome mr michael malice michael how are you sir i'm well how are

00:16:07.560 you glen well i'm uh i'm not as good as you are quite honestly i know your dad has business in

00:16:12.780 ukraine and he is out correct yeah that's it was good to hear um it was a very disturbing news

00:16:22.240 uh you know i was born there as you know i have families from there we got out in the 70s

00:16:28.220 and i got a call from my sister and i think when people see headlines uh it's a lot different when

00:16:36.220 it's something that is personal you know obviously yeah um so you know he was making his way west uh

00:16:43.860 we're from leviv which is the furthest west you know major city in ukraine and my dad is not a very

00:16:50.140 nice cuddly person um i've never seen him i mean as you can imagine given the spawn that he created

00:16:57.300 um and i've never seen him cry i've never even say he's been upset by something you know i mean

00:17:05.200 not because he's a tough guy he's very sarcastic and eye-rolling and he was telling my sister that

00:17:10.820 you know he's on this train car and there's all these moms with their kids and the kids are all

00:17:16.160 crying and he's sitting next to this little boy who was crying that they're gonna kill my dad they're

00:17:21.600 gonna kill my dad and you know it broke him up and when you hear things like this i think that's

00:17:28.720 you know the most important thing in a situation is you know you know there's all these information 0.95

00:17:34.700 and misinformation going on the media but what we do know is there's a million people who are

00:17:40.080 correctly fleeing war and you know that is where my thoughts are with michael what did you learn

00:17:49.160 from your dad if anything um that might differ with the highly censored news that we're receiving

00:17:57.520 um i don't know that he would have any particular perspective as to what's going on in the news

00:18:08.000 other than the fact that you know the people are you know we're hearing a lot of this like counter

00:18:14.260 propaganda they're like oh it's not that bad they're not targeting civilians you know that's

00:18:20.220 just people beating the war drums against putin and that might be all well and good but you don't

00:18:25.540 have to target civilians to make civilians terrified understandably you don't have to target civilians

00:18:33.620 when a military is coming to seize towns and you know when you're arming an entire population

00:18:41.480 and and you know making it illegal for the men to leave or at least very difficult i'm not sure what

00:18:47.480 the latest you know principles are and and you know separating families with just a backpack on their

00:18:53.260 back so thankfully what else you know he told my sister is when they got across the border they were

00:18:59.760 being taken care of there was food for them diapers you know baby formula and whatnot um so that is

00:19:06.520 you know a little modicum of hope but i gotta tell you you know you know i'm technically ukrainian

00:19:13.620 refugee uh under far better circumstances but you know this when you're a kid and you see something

00:19:20.920 like this that's going to screw you up for life for life um michael uh because you are a ukrainian 0.59

00:19:28.760 refugee and uh you know your dad just escaped um tell me what we should be doing

00:19:36.400 well i i mean he had the golden ticket the american passport so i don't think he was ever really in in

00:19:44.340 you know in danger we should i don't know you know this is the thing there there's so much um

00:19:51.720 i don't know that this is a situation where there's any necessarily good guys what we should

00:19:57.720 be doing and what i did i raised some money yesterday on youtube um for world central kitchen

00:20:03.680 to feed people who are hungry who've been displaced in different organizations that's what i'm focused on

00:20:10.420 but in terms of what's going on there i don't understand putin's end game at all because you know

00:20:18.680 this goes back to thatcher and the falklands you don't get to be the aggressor and then sit down

00:20:24.400 and say now let's have a discussion that question was kind of resolved internationally in the early

00:20:29.940 80s with argentina and the falklands reagan you know was telling her and al haig the secretary of

00:20:35.780 state at the time was telling her let's sit down and talk with the argentinians and she's like no

00:20:40.260 you don't get to discuss uh peace after you've invaded you remove your forces then we can talk

00:20:47.060 until doomsday but after that that is not the time for conversation and i don't think that that's

00:20:52.460 an inaccurate position and putin knows this is the international principle he saw what happened at the

00:20:58.500 un when you have iran and israel voting the same that that's telling you something maybe it's not 0.80

00:21:03.960 something nice but regardless uh he's not a stupid person uh i i don't see he's a kgb agent so he's 0.84

00:21:11.920 clearly a conniving machiavellian so i mean i don't think he thinks that he's just going to 0.50

00:21:18.580 seize kiev and everyone else is just going to shrug their shoulders and be like well i guess

00:21:23.300 ukraine is back to russia now is it too crazy in today's world to think that perhaps uh he believes

00:21:35.120 he can outlast sanctions longer than the west can with the oil game i mean you know oil has now hit

00:21:46.240 120 a barrel 140 sustained collapsed us in 2008 um you know is there is there a chance he's thinking

00:21:55.400 i can be the one to destroy the west and have them collapse before i collapse you know what i if i had

00:22:04.240 if he put a gun to my head and asked me what do i think he's thinking yeah i would bet that he's 0.79

00:22:09.460 trying to get the west and especially europe distracted so that china pulls something because 0.84

00:22:14.480 there's no doubt in my mind that china knew what he was going to do oh he gave them the head drop 1.00

00:22:19.720 he said to him can you just delay it until the olympics are over yeah exactly so the fact that they

00:22:26.860 gave him the green light and that they have designs on taiwan at the minimum um is very concerning

00:22:34.060 to me and when when macron who i don't particularly trust or like uh is telling us that the worst is

00:22:40.820 yet to come well i don't know what that means but it sure doesn't sound better

00:22:45.380 and the french no misery you know the french no misery so i mean good food but everything else

00:22:55.480 is miserable over in france um michael how can we can how can we help what was the organization you

00:23:03.480 were giving to it was called world central kitchen um it's it's done by chef chef jose andre i think

00:23:09.640 is his name and basically there's different places around the world where they you know feed people and

00:23:15.900 just have cooks who give people a hot meal uh so i think this is as apolitical and as you know

00:23:22.540 basic decency as it gets uh thank you for that do you uh do you have any other thoughts on

00:23:29.680 anything other than uh ukraine did you see the president's speech oh god i i i was at the gym

00:23:38.340 so i saw highlights uh my thoughts are also with the iranian people and he's true he's right uh putin

00:23:44.860 will never take the hearts of the iranian people i think that i you know you got your conservatives

00:23:50.660 like to attack the president and call him dishonest but he's telling the truth he was uh he was an

00:23:57.720 you have to give him credit for that you do you do although i think he i think i think he's going

00:24:04.100 for the hearts of the ukraine the uh uranian uh iranian people the uranian people and the jupiter

00:24:11.420 people yeah the saturn people will never submit to tyranny no matter how many moons they have

00:24:18.240 we have one moon and i'm going to walk on it i'm going to be the first president to walk on the

00:24:23.100 moon jill where's my walker michael malice thank you so much michael malice uh always a pleasure

00:24:31.780 you bet uh the author of the anarchist handbook and host of the podcast you're welcome you can find

00:24:38.860 him at michael malice.com you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:24:46.720 justin he is the editorial director of the heartland institute and editor-in-chief of

00:25:00.700 stopping socialism.com hi justin how are you oh i'm doing well i think we might be on the verge of

00:25:08.120 world war three but you know other than that yeah everything's fine did you did you listen to

00:25:13.260 hour one of this broadcast today yet i have not oh you okay so hour two hour one um i kind of gave

00:25:22.600 a warning and i'd like to hear your uh view on it i kind of gave a warning of uh gee uh we're

00:25:29.560 shivving ourselves while we're also kniving russia um and uh explain what's coming and and i just i

00:25:38.500 really feel that this whole russia ukraine thing to quote a very brilliant strategist it's a trap

00:25:48.700 and that's my favorite strategist i know and we are really we're headed for real trouble

00:25:56.160 if you missed hour number one go back and listen to it it is vital if you want to be ahead of things

00:26:01.900 and and please if you have friends who are awake tell them to listen to the podcast or to the show

00:26:08.580 so they stay ahead things are moving rapidly justin yeah go ahead yeah no i was just gonna say i mean

00:26:17.220 i think that the more i learn about what's going on and i felt this way throughout reading alexander

00:26:23.400 dugan's book the more convinced i am that there are no truly good sides here i mean in a way i think

00:26:31.300 the people of ukraine are fighting for their lives are heroes without a doubt but the great reset side

00:26:39.380 is not the good guys no and russia and vladimir putin they're not good guys either we're dealing

00:26:45.240 with lots of tyrants here so here's the here's the thing that i think if people can understand this

00:26:50.320 they will get it this is not an american issue this is a this is happening all over the world

00:26:56.720 for instance the chinese in hong kong the people are the good ones it's their government that is

00:27:03.280 squashing everyone and controlling everyone same thing with putin putin the people are rising up

00:27:10.720 the people are rising up against him in ukraine as well the people in france are rising up saying

00:27:17.960 there's too much control here the people of uh brexit did the same thing the people of canada the people

00:27:24.220 the people get it it's the elites that are all going for either international socialism the great

00:27:33.420 reset or national socialism russia and china that's what's really happening right that is exactly right

00:27:42.040 that is the most important thing for people to take away and this this has been going on for

00:27:47.000 a long time to varying degrees and it ebbs and flows but you can trace this all the way back to

00:27:51.740 the 1800s you can find debate the early socialists the first big fight they had was should we have

00:27:58.160 national socialism which ended up becoming fascism like nazi nazism and benito mussolini in italy and in

00:28:04.480 spain and elsewhere or should we have international socialism and that debate to some extent has

00:28:10.560 continued on all the way to today the arguments have changed a bit but really what i think we're

00:28:16.340 seeing today is a battle between elites and the people are crossed are caught in the middle of that

00:28:22.480 and the elites are the international uh fascists 21st century modern fascism which is what we talk

00:28:29.740 about in the great reset book and then hardcore ultra nationalist uh fascists who are focused on

00:28:37.080 national fascism and building a coalition of nations and peoples that agree with that model

00:28:43.480 neither side is good and the people are caught in the middle right because neither side both sides will

00:28:49.000 rule over the people and they look at people as cogs which if we get into the uh book uh from

00:28:55.860 alexander dugan i would urge any real thinking person to read this book if you don't understand the

00:29:04.940 concepts we're talking about read my book the great reset first um because dugan is very good at using

00:29:14.460 language to try to get people scooped up into this this russian movement and it is extraordinarily

00:29:21.200 dangerous um but he talks about and i was glad to see in the first couple of pages he talks about

00:29:27.640 his great awakening is all to fight the the great reset which you know he lays out a pretty good

00:29:36.180 case against the great reset but his problem uh that he is also fighting is individualism he believes we

00:29:45.760 have to have a collective view so that's where america breaks away from any of this stuff that russia is 0.85

00:29:53.480 pushing yes that's really important to understand i think it goes back to what what we just talked

00:29:59.960 about where this is really a battle between elites with different collectivist mindsets and individualism

00:30:07.460 is not he kind of tries to make the argument that individualism has naturally led to things like

00:30:14.560 the great reset and i think that's completely ludicrous that's not what has happened at all and he acts as

00:30:19.920 though there isn't any other option it's either fascists or we're international fascists uh it's

00:30:26.300 it's one or the other we're fascists either way national or international and he ignores that there's this

00:30:31.500 whole other group of people the book is incredibly insightful but everyone who reads it needs to

00:30:37.440 understand it's propaganda that's what it is it is designed to try to convince republicans who lean

00:30:44.260 towards trump to join the side of raqqa and china and iran and turkey he specifically lays this out later

00:30:53.760 in the book toward the very end that this is the whole purpose of this you guys have been screwed in

00:30:59.180 america they don't care about your values in the heartland we believe in nationalism we believe in

00:31:05.080 defending traditional values and you need to join with us to stop this international uh fascism movement

00:31:11.320 because if we don't join together we're going to be overwhelmed by it and humanity is at stake not

00:31:18.100 just our societies but all of humanity the definition of what it means to be a person the definition of

00:31:23.720 gender and the meaning of the purpose of sexuality all of this stuff is caught up in this as well and it is a

00:31:30.520 it is really in some parts brilliantly written propaganda in other parts he shows his hand a little too

00:31:36.940 strong but if you get to the end you read the whole book and you get to the end it's very obvious that

00:31:42.660 this is a tyrant who's writing this advocating for essentially a world war no i'd say he goes past

00:31:51.480 that but let me let me stop let me before we get there um i've i've really had uh conflicts this week

00:31:58.820 because i have told people to read this book and um if i were if i were a fascist or if i uh if i didn't

00:32:06.540 believe in my audience and i didn't believe in people that they could figure things out on

00:32:12.520 themselves i would say we should ban this book get rid of this book don't read this book it's very

00:32:18.640 very dangerous because it's brilliant but if you are going to control your own life if you are if the

00:32:28.440 american experiment is to survive you have to understand the most compelling case um against

00:32:38.260 uh the great reset if you're going to survive you have to know what we're fighting that's why the great

00:32:45.480 reset is there and that's why this book i'm recommending as well because this is this is putin's

00:32:52.380 uh uh antidote to the great reset but it's the same system of oppression just clothed differently

00:33:02.360 yes i think that this book especially when you get towards the end and he starts talking about

00:33:09.460 uh what he believes what what he and what other influential russians in government believe is the

00:33:16.800 best path forward and how the only way really to stop the great reset you begin to understand

00:33:22.740 especially in light of the fact that this book was only published six months ago or so you begin to

00:33:27.860 understand what putin is doing in ukraine a lot better i actually do not think that vladimir putin

00:33:34.240 is has just lost his mind uh and he's just a crazy person and i don't believe that he is doing this

00:33:41.640 for power or money just in and of itself because this doesn't make any sense if he's trying to do 0.57

00:33:47.480 it for power or for money in and of themselves i think this is about his legacy and the legacy of russia

00:33:54.200 and about ushering in this whole new radical era of of fascism of national fascism and i think he wants

00:34:02.460 to be remembered as the sort of george washington type figure yes led the world towards yes new

00:34:10.020 utopia that he imagined yes and if you please i beg of you um listen to the first hour of this

00:34:19.320 broadcast get it on podcast wherever you get your podcast but listen to the full hour of the first

00:34:24.700 hour of this broadcast podcast today because i go into the arguments of what we should be doing

00:34:33.020 and uh you know at the half hour mark i i'm i'm i'm establishing that we all have a price

00:34:40.620 on the on the ukrainian people we all say most of us say we don't want troops over in ukraine

00:34:47.600 so we've established a price but then i give you a couple of other price tags that we are and will pay

00:34:54.840 and uh it's actually a higher price than sending our troops over please listen to that because you're

00:35:03.980 not going to get that information anyplace else when you say um and i haven't finished reading it uh yet

00:35:09.860 the um uh the great awakening versus the great reset by alexander dugan i haven't finished it yet

00:35:16.840 but when you say he is looking for a world war you know his real design on the books that he's written

00:35:23.900 that i have read for the russian people he is talking about literal armageddon he is talking

00:35:30.360 about the end of everything that is modern bringing us back to the stone age so is he is he just

00:35:39.200 presenting a world war here or is he as apocalyptic as he is in his other books he he the way he frames

00:35:47.120 it in this book is and remember this is written for americans predominantly okay so he's he doesn't get

00:35:53.460 quite as apocalyptic as he does in the other books instead what he says is that this is going to lead

00:35:59.380 to a uh an imperial awakening that's the words that he uses where all of these different empires

00:36:07.460 nationalistic empires will rise up and will all be individually defenders of traditionalism in their

00:36:15.860 context so iran has its own traditionalism context right like sharia law and russia has its own

00:36:25.440 traditionalism and china has its own traditionalism and america you can be part of this too you have

00:36:31.040 your own thing and we don't agree about everything but you can have that as well and so he sees he calls

00:36:37.540 on russia to lead the charge to creating ushering in this era of imperialism that's the words that he's

00:36:45.680 using um and it's it's totally insane but he's suggesting that this is the way that we will awaken

00:36:54.040 the world and prevent the great reset from taking hold now this is this is it's also important to know

00:37:01.020 that he is trying to destroy the west so when you read this and he's like america you can do this 0.78

00:37:06.520 remember this his goal is to destroy the rat the west and reset everything in chaos and through chaos 0.67

00:37:17.300 yes yeah and and he because he wants he he believes that we've all gone way off the track and he starts

00:37:25.200 right off we have the very beginning saying individualism is the problem right right individual

00:37:30.460 rights is the problem and we need to blow all of that up and realize that only if we have

00:37:36.480 a strong man imposing traditional ideas can we get back to what the world should look like

00:37:45.240 and he goes all the way back prior to the protestant reformation and talks about how we went off the

00:37:50.740 track even before that because uh the protestant reformation led to this concept of individual rights

00:37:56.940 he wants uh radical collectivism and traditionalism not in a marxist kind of way necessarily but in a

00:38:06.340 a fascist way he really is a fascist he says in other books he has said that the only problem 0.55

00:38:14.380 with hitler is he didn't go far enough look this is uh this this program you know in the coming weeks

00:38:20.120 and months and however long we are on the air this program will separate the men from the boys uh this

00:38:26.420 program is not really designed never has been for people who just want to play politics um this is to

00:38:33.700 talk about what's really going on um discuss all kinds of ideas and look at things from all angles

00:38:41.440 but with the understanding that you are smart enough to figure things out that you will take this

00:38:47.360 information and you will do your own homework and we will correct ourselves when we're wrong

00:38:53.100 i'm not uh i'm not ashamed to say i make mistakes of course i make mistakes everybody makes mistakes

00:38:59.540 but we have to do our best if you're really interested in looking at what's really going on

00:39:06.340 and you have a bill of rights perspective that's my that's my base god and the bill of rights if you

00:39:15.740 have that perspective you're at home and uh there's a lot of information that you will need that you won't

00:39:22.100 get any place else justin um i'm gonna go out uh on a place that uh my producers probably would say

00:39:31.160 i shouldn't um but i am very concerned about the influence here in america um because there are

00:39:40.200 people who understand this donald trump is not one of them but donald trump uses the same kind of

00:39:47.460 language but that's just because he believes in america but advisors to him who are no longer

00:39:53.060 advisors for instance steve bannon he knows vladimir dugan he has signed treaties uh you know or

00:40:00.840 partnerships with uh dugan in europe how dangerous is this to not understand what's really being said

00:40:11.380 to the full extent by somebody who is a capital t traditionalist yeah this is absolutely vital that

00:40:18.900 people get this it would be so easy to fall into this trap that dugan is setting and that's exactly

00:40:25.620 why he wrote this book the purpose of it is propaganda to convince americans under and i've been hearing

00:40:31.540 from people who i've known for a very long time really smart people who who especially prior to this

00:40:38.380 invasion just prior to it with putin we're saying pretty positive things about putin you know always

00:40:44.040 you know he wants to defend traditionalism and he wants to do that yeah yeah but but that's a ploy

00:40:49.900 what is he really all about what are these people really fundamentally all about and that's why you if

00:40:55.940 you're going to read this book you got to read it all the way to the end because what you realize is

00:41:00.480 that yes he's right about many of the problems with the great reset no doubt about it he gets a lot of

00:41:06.160 that stuff right but what's his solution so his solution is another form of tyranny and that's

00:41:11.740 the problem so justin haskins uh co-author of uh my book uh the great reset thanks for being on with

00:41:18.360 us i will tell you in reading it last night my thought was yeah you know same problems happened in

00:41:25.460 the 1920s and 1930s and people said hitler's got a remember hitler was time magazine's man of the year

00:41:32.760 138 in a positive light people said yeah he's got answers and they're good no read his book he also

00:41:41.220 has some significant problems that's what this book is this book is the modern era mein kampf

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