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00:00:00.000 I don't know, Stu. Welcome to the podcast. I don't know. Is, I mean, is today's, I mean,

00:00:05.580 should we start with the spooky stuff on the podcast today? I think so. The, we started on

00:00:10.580 the show and it was kind of a spooky first hour for the show about Musk's new Neuralink and what

00:00:18.040 this means. Also, Bill Whittle joins us and what we saw, the Apollo 11 documentary. It's this

00:00:24.180 weekend that that anniversary is happening 50 years since man landed on the moon. Seems a lot

00:00:30.780 longer than that, doesn't it? Also what Russia might be doing to us, Jamie Kilstein, it joins us

00:00:37.680 leaving the social justice cult, an amazing documentary and breaking news today from David

00:00:46.140 Steinberg, the latest on Elon Omar. He says he has proof now and it's been published.

00:00:54.180 That she married her brother. And don't forget, what we have the, I guess it's next week or two

00:00:59.780 weeks from now, we have the debates coming up. The election's been largely about health care,

00:01:03.980 which is fascinating considering the left already got their health care plan. I don't know if anyone

00:01:08.000 followed this Obamacare debate over the past 10 years. Really? That was the left's idea? Yeah.

00:01:12.140 So we go back and look at the biggest seven lies and what's coming in the future as far as health

00:01:17.860 care from the Democrats. The first two episodes you can find at blazetv.com slash Glenn.

00:01:23.280 The first two episodes are devastating on what those lies did to the American people in the health

00:01:30.840 care. Part three, which airs tonight, talks about the same Trojan horses being ridden in today.

00:01:37.680 Yeah. And it's all available on demand. Check it out. blazetv.com slash Glenn. Use the promo code Glenn.

00:01:43.600 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:59.160 I have been following something for two reasons. One is personal. And the other is because I am a,

00:02:08.680 a, a freak about new technology. I am fascinated by new technology and the brave new world.

00:02:16.240 It is both terrifying and exhilarating. Man will be either more free than he has ever been at any time

00:02:30.620 in human history or I used to say the biggest slave in human history, but he may wipe himself

00:02:39.920 out. I've been fascinated by what is called AI, AGI and ASI. AI, we already have artificial intelligence.

00:02:53.220 We already have it. AGI is artificial general intelligence. We are a general intelligence

00:03:01.620 being. We have general intelligence about a lot of different things. Artificial intelligence is

00:03:10.000 really only one thing. So, uh, Watson can play, what is it? Big blue can play chess. Watson can, uh,

00:03:20.000 do trivia on Jeopardy. I think that's the way they work. They can't do the opposite. So if it's Watson

00:03:26.160 that can answer all of the trivia questions, it cannot also play chess. It's AI, artificial intelligence

00:03:34.240 on chess or artificial intelligence on trivia. Artificial general intelligence will be able to

00:03:41.860 do both and many other things as well, just like you can, except they master it. They'll be the best

00:03:49.040 at it. When that happens, you start to approach what's called the singularity, which is a time

00:03:55.340 when the machine, you won't be able to tell the machine from a man. You will, you will cross a 0.97

00:04:03.060 Rubicon of what is life. And they don't know how long it will take to go from AGI to ASI. And ASI is

00:04:16.320 super intelligence. We will not be, we will be flies in comparison to ASI. So this is the thing

00:04:24.400 that Bill Gates has warned about. Stephen Hawking has warned about Elon Musk is warning about is this

00:04:32.160 AGI, ASI conundrum that if we hit it and we hit the point of singularity, we don't know if it's going

00:04:41.440 to be benevolent. Now, the other reason why I have been fascinated by this is because I have a daughter

00:04:48.460 who was born with cerebral palsy. On the flip side of AGI and ASI is miracles, miracles, things that you

00:04:59.440 never would think are possible. For instance, you want to learn French? Okay, just download it into your

00:05:07.220 brain. You want to repair the, um, the actual brain pathways in your head after a stroke? Not a

00:05:21.220 problem. We'll just insert some, you know, some sort of electrode into your head and it will repair the

00:05:29.120 brain. It will just build bridges to repair that pathway. So you won't be affected. I mean, the things

00:05:35.420 that are on the horizon are amazing. Most people have said this can't be done. My daughter has been

00:05:42.940 going through about a year of testing to see if she can have brain surgery because she had several 0.87

00:05:50.820 strokes when she was born and she, uh, has both sides of her brain, um, affected. Uh, but now she is

00:06:01.520 having epileptic seizures. She's been having them for, she had them when she was a kid. And then when

00:06:06.440 she turned about 18, she started having them again and she's, you know, now 30 and it has totally

00:06:13.900 disrupted her life and she can't drive. She can't do a lot of things because you never know if she's

00:06:19.720 going to have a seizure and they're, they're hard to watch. So we've been looking into this technology

00:06:27.680 where they can actually implant electrodes into your brain. She's tried every kind of medicine.

00:06:33.480 It doesn't work, but it is, it is amazing what modern medicine can do. And she's at the final

00:06:41.360 testing point now to find out if they can actually implant these, like there's, these little, and I'm

00:06:48.960 sorry for anybody who actually knows, you know, all the scientific, you know, jargon around this for

00:06:54.320 butchering this so badly, but they can put like little, um, probes, little bars, little, little,

00:07:02.000 little strands, uh, into your head and thread that through all your capillaries and thread that

00:07:10.660 all into exactly the right place. They map the brain in 3d digital, and then they have to put it

00:07:18.700 right in the right place. And then that sends out a signal and it, it maps the brain wave, if you will.

00:07:27.000 And when it starts to see the tremors start, it sends out like a pacemaker, a signal to stop that

00:07:34.280 and to regulate it. It's amazing. Well, Elon Musk has just announced something that makes that look

00:07:43.780 like child's play. He is, he, he just, uh, announced with neuroscientists at his side,

00:07:54.340 something that is called Neuralink. Now he says at the beginning of his, of his talk that

00:08:03.700 he's doing this because he believes, and so does DARPA, that no one is working on benevolent AI.

00:08:12.180 They're all just trying to get to AGI first because whoever gets to AGI first is going to rule the

00:08:18.780 world. But he has been warning and others have been warning and DARPA is been warning and working on

00:08:26.160 benevolent AGI. We need to make sure that whatever it is we're creating doesn't look at us like rodents

00:08:34.140 and decides to exterminate us. We won't be able to understand it because it will be thinking

00:08:42.800 so fast. So what he's been trying to do is how do we bond with AGI? How do we fuse? This is

00:08:55.340 transhumanism. It's another thing that, that, uh, Stephen Hawking warned about and was misunderstood

00:09:02.220 by the end of his life where he said there won't be any homo sapiens left by 2050. What he was talking

00:09:08.380 about is humans as we know it will be over because we will be so augmented with technology

00:09:13.660 that you won't be able to survive if you're just a natural human. So he introduces the Neuralink.

00:09:22.220 And again, his goal is to, is to be able to interface with AI. So we are not left behind.

00:09:30.020 But what the first phase is, is an upgrade of what my daughter has been going through. And what he

00:09:40.780 introduced was 10,000 times better than the latest technology. 10,000 times. He says that it will be

00:09:54.380 ready for humans in a year. And it is, it's what's amazing is it's like a sewing machine. It has to be

00:10:03.620 done by a robot because the probes are the size of a human hair and they have to be threaded in

00:10:10.880 between everything and put exactly into the right place of the brain. And he has built this machine

00:10:17.980 that is a robotic, looks like a robotic sewing machine and it implants these. But so, you know,

00:10:25.220 this surgery is a really delicate thing to do today. He believes, and he says that this machine

00:10:36.080 will do it within a year. And he showed the machine, it will be like LASIK surgery. You'll be able to go in

00:10:44.420 and have these implants put into your head in an hour and then walk out.

00:10:51.100 Now that's phase one. Phase two is to help people walk, remember, do different things that for some

00:11:00.840 reason, whether it's a stroke or Alzheimer's or whatever, it will repair the brain. It will not

00:11:07.320 repair the brain. It will just be the bridge. For instance, it will record. So if you're driving to

00:11:13.940 work every day, you see certain things and that helps you remember where you are. So it will record

00:11:20.020 all of those things that you're seeing. And when you are lost and you can't figure out, it automatically

00:11:26.840 pushes those things out. Now this is remarkable. You can't move your arm. You can't move your leg.

00:11:35.340 It will push you and it will remap the brain for anything that is broken.

00:11:42.980 Phase three, which he says is around the corner.

00:11:48.440 Phase three is a neural link.

00:11:51.060 You want to learn how to speak Russian, download it and you don't have to go get chips or anything

00:11:59.100 else. You will think it and Google translate or whatever the translate system is that's online

00:12:08.460 will be a part of you. So you'll be able to understand. You'll be able to read. You'll be able

00:12:14.960 to speak. You want to learn something. It will just be downloaded into you. More importantly,

00:12:23.160 it will record all of the things that you have done. It will map your brain and it will be a two

00:12:33.000 way street. So you want to send messages. You want to whatever you will be able to think it and it

00:12:40.080 will be done because you will be part of the internet. Now the real problem with this is

00:12:48.240 who's controlling this? Because you won't be able to compete. For instance, let's say we go to

00:12:57.800 socialized medicine. This technology will continue. But if we have socialized medicine, this I guarantee

00:13:05.440 you will only be done by the rich. If it's only been done by the rich at the very beginning are those

00:13:12.000 people that are uplinked. You're not going to be able to compete with them. What do they do with this

00:13:19.740 until all of us get it? And if all of us get it, who's controlling it? And can they just shut you off?

00:13:28.040 They don't like your you're becoming dangerous. You are saying the wrong things. So we're going to

00:13:33.680 deperson you. We're already seeing this happen with tech now. They're building ghettos. But if

00:13:39.660 everyone is super, super, super smart and they can just cut you off from that and turn your system 0.69

00:13:47.000 off and you become a monkey. What is coming our way? Both miracles and madness.

00:14:03.680 I believe in miracles. I believe the best is in front of us, but not if we continue to act like monkeys. 0.75

00:14:15.040 You can read all about this. Elon Musk tested his brain microchip on monkeys. It enabled one to

00:14:28.160 control a computer with its mind. We're already seeing this. You'll see people who say this is

00:14:35.880 doomed to fail. I don't believe they're accurate. And neither did Stephen Hawking. Neither does Bill

00:14:42.720 Gates. Neither does Elon Musk. And a lot of others. This has been on the horizon for a while. And this

00:14:50.760 is what people are doing now. Because they truly believe this is the future. Madness or miracles.

00:15:00.200 I have a couple of other updates for you on technology that I want to get out of the way

00:15:07.020 while we're here. But I'll do that in one minute. The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:15:15.120 Hey, it's Glenn. And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray

00:15:25.900 Unleashed. His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast. Hey, I have some

00:15:31.580 other good news. I have some other good news for you on the technology front. It's now happening in

00:15:42.220 Sweden. They are implanting microchips under their skin. I want you to know this is definitely not

00:15:54.200 the mark of the beast. More than 4,000 people in Sweden have had the chips about the size of a grain

00:16:02.540 of rice inserted into their hands. I believe that's exactly where the Bible says it's either in your

00:16:12.340 hand or your forehead. So they about 4,000 people have inserted this into their hands with pioneers

00:16:20.260 predicting millions will soon join them or else. It's like a glorified smartwatch. It helps the Swedes

00:16:29.840 monitor their health and replace key cards. Allow them to enter office buildings.

00:16:35.960 Oh, that's so convenient. Who wouldn't want that? You go to the snack, you know, the snack deal. You

00:16:41.840 never have to look for quarters of dollars. Wow. Yeah. So you get like all the Funyuns you want 1.00

00:16:46.800 without bringing change? Yeah. This is a dream come true. Yeah. You no longer have to have a credit

00:16:52.520 card even. You just walk in and it just it takes your number. Here's the best thing about it. It's

00:16:59.400 new technology that no one ever predicted before. Right. It's like this is something that's never

00:17:04.800 been written about. Well, it's never been discussed before. A little bit. It has been. Yeah. It's

00:17:11.160 definitely not the mark of the beast. Yeah. This is crazy. So the other thing that is happening is

00:17:21.340 what is it? Libra? Yeah. The it's not really a cryptocurrency, but no, it's not the kind of

00:17:27.980 cryptocurrency that Facebook is talking about. Okay. So somebody is going to do this. Now imagine

00:17:32.700 if you have Libra and Facebook will not say one way or another what they're planning on doing about

00:17:38.840 this. Let's say you have Libra. Okay. And Libra becomes the currency. Let's say it's especially

00:17:45.440 like on Amazon. Okay. And in the future, we're all going to be buying everything probably from

00:17:50.480 something like Amazon, if not Amazon, but they have their own currency and you've been depersoned

00:17:58.040 because of your opinion or things that you've posted. Can you buy anything with Libra? I saw this

00:18:05.940 episode of Black Mirror. You're right. Exactly right. Exactly right. It's here, America. It's here.

00:18:16.520 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:18:29.440 Hey, it's Glenn. And I want to tell you about something that you should either end your day with

00:18:33.440 or, um, start your morning with. And that is the news and why it matters. If you like this show,

00:18:40.420 you're going to love the news and why it matters. It's a bunch of us that all get together at the

00:18:44.920 end of the day and just talk about the stories that matter to you and your life. The news and why

00:18:49.560 it matters. Look for it now, wherever you download your favorite podcast, Bill Whittle, uh, joins us.

00:18:56.220 Now he is, um, he's done a documentary on Apollo 11, uh, and he's, uh, done it on the daily wires

00:19:04.560 YouTube and it is really, really good. Uh, welcome to the program, Bill. Good morning,

00:19:11.700 Glenn. How in the blazes are you? I'm very, I'm very good. So tell me the story because this is

00:19:17.700 already, I don't know if you've seen what they're saying now that this is the white patriarchy and

00:19:21.700 everything else. And we're not supposed to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the moon landing,

00:19:26.820 but it is a remarkable thing that happened 50 years ago. I'm so glad you brought that up. Um,

00:19:33.440 because as you will know, if you ever saw the footage, the, the kind of the, um, the highlight

00:19:39.440 of the moon landing was when Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin planted that giant foam. We're number one

00:19:45.300 finger in the, in the soil and started chanting USA, USA. We're number one. Well, you will notice

00:19:51.740 that they were wearing white suits and while their hats weren't pointed, they were still white.

00:19:56.680 Here's why I want to bring that up. Um, what they, what they said when they got off the ladder

00:20:02.520 and they went to the plaque on the, on the, on the, uh, leg of the limb, they read a plaque that's

00:20:08.640 still there. It'll be there forever. And here's what it said. It said, here are men from planet

00:20:13.540 earth first set foot upon the moon, July, 1969. We came in peace for all mankind. Now that is not

00:20:20.840 the most gracious, generous, uh, deeply, deeply, um, humble and, uh, and, and kind of magnificent

00:20:29.180 thing to say. Uh, Bill, they use the word man twice. Oh, well, there you go. I guess

00:20:34.040 they didn't say him, they didn't, they didn't say him, her, or they, them. Uh, and that's the real

00:20:42.220 issue here, Bill. Tell me, because I think this is really fascinating that the world as

00:20:49.420 they watched more people saw this than anything else. We watched it simultaneously all around

00:20:55.360 the world in every country. Uh, and it, what's amazing about the way this was done is the rest

00:21:04.360 of the world did not look at this as an American thing. They looked at it as humans actually being

00:21:13.100 able to pull this off. Precisely right. 600 million people watched this back in 1969, which means that

00:21:20.220 every single person on the planet who had access to a television set watched at the same time. If

00:21:25.300 they were, if they didn't have a TV set, they'd go and, and look in through store windows where they

00:21:29.560 were selling TV sets. I was lucky enough to have watched the moon landing at age 10 from the Plaza

00:21:34.380 hotel. And there were tens of thousands of people in central park watching it on projection screens

00:21:39.440 down there. And you're, and you're absolutely right. No one thought of it as an American moment.

00:21:44.600 Everybody thought of it as a human moment. And, um, and I think that's what makes some people

00:21:50.380 just so, uh, virulently opposed to this whole idea because it wasn't just a great technological

00:21:56.760 achievement. It was a great technological achievement accomplished by the United States

00:22:01.320 of America, but done in such a, in such a generous and noble fashion that everybody on earth felt like

00:22:08.540 this was their achievement. Right. It wasn't, it was never phrased, uh, as, I mean, there was the

00:22:14.580 competition with the Soviet union. Uh, and that is one of the reasons, you know, Kennedy knew we've got 0.63

00:22:21.400 to get our crap together, uh, because we have to be in space, but that was never, uh, the spirit

00:22:29.300 of it. Not, not with any of the astronauts, not with the people of NASA, they were just looking to 0.61

00:22:35.860 do something that mankind had never done before. Precisely right. And on a later mission, um, when

00:22:43.200 they left a plaque for the dead astronauts, uh, and cosmonauts who had died in the attempt, they included

00:22:48.020 the, uh, Soviet cosmonauts on that plaque as well. Um, it was, um, it was the only way for us to fight 0.80

00:22:55.460 a war that we've been in for 50 years. And by the way, we used all of our, what otherwise would have

00:23:01.180 been destructive methods of war. We used missiles and rocket technology. We had test pilots, we had

00:23:06.040 aircraft carriers recovering the vehicles. We had our radar stations tracking them, which were

00:23:10.040 originally designed, of course, to track incoming missiles. All of this military hardware got

00:23:15.060 channeled into the only place where we could actually compete with that hardware and not face

00:23:21.120 the fact that each side had 25,000 nuclear weapons pointed at each other. And people, you know, before

00:23:27.200 the Soviet Union collapsed, uh, people don't understand that basically in the early to mid sixties

00:23:33.040 towards late sixties, this entire thing was basically a sales pitch. Glenn, you know, the, the world

00:23:38.800 consisted of the free countries and then they, the first world, the second world were all the socialist 0.58

00:23:43.860 nations. And then the huge uncommitted third world. We were basically in an ad campaign against 1.00

00:23:49.860 the Soviets trying to convince them that our system was better. And I might point out that by the middle 0.69

00:23:55.280 of 1958, the Russians had launched the first two satellites for a combined weight of 1,300 pounds.

00:24:02.500 And we'd launched the second two for a combined rate of 33 pounds. So we're down 40 to one in 1958.

00:24:09.720 And, and when Kennedy became president, he understood that we, we could not as a nation

00:24:16.500 survive with, forget the technological edge. We couldn't as a nation survive thinking that we

00:24:23.060 were second best. And so he proposed the hardest thing that's ever been done. And frankly, Glenn,

00:24:28.440 he got it all in the first seven words where he said, we choose to go to the moon. And that was the hard

00:24:34.000 part, making the choice. Everything after that was just an engineering challenge.

00:24:37.100 It's amazing to me. And I wonder whether this could happen again. I've, I've had several

00:24:42.180 conversations with the historian Arthur Herman about the concept in one of his books, which is

00:24:48.440 the freedom's forge and how we won world war II. I'm not sure that we could do that today. I mean,

00:24:56.140 we have Google working with the Chinese and not with the Americans. I'm not sure we could get 0.91

00:25:02.140 everybody on board today like we did then. Well, I have to tell you up until about two

00:25:07.640 years ago, I mean, I was an Apollo kid. I was an astronaut at five. It was just paperwork that

00:25:13.440 had to be completed. Yeah. Right. But up until about two years ago, I thought, man, we, we really

00:25:18.320 may have lost this edge. And then when I saw SpaceX, SpaceX land, the Falcon heavy booster

00:25:23.520 booster simultaneously. And I heard the measure that went up from the SpaceX millennials who

00:25:28.660 were in large part, the engineers for this, I realized they hadn't heard that sound in

00:25:32.840 49 years. And that was not since that night on July 20th, 1969, any company whose official

00:25:40.300 recovery vehicle is named, of course, I still love you. That company is going to Mars. They're

00:25:45.320 going to do things and have already done things that the Russians can't do. The Chinese can't 1.00

00:25:50.100 do, the Europeans can't do and NASA can't do. Because because that company is under the

00:25:56.220 is under the vision of a person, one individual who decides, hey, you know what might be kind

00:26:01.600 of fun to launch a Tesla into space. And we'll play David Bowie music. And we'll have Hitchhiker's

00:26:06.300 Guide to the Galaxy on the navigation screen. Inconceivable that Boeing would do such a thing.

00:26:11.700 Right. But but they're having fun. That's the difference. This time they're having fun.

00:26:16.080 That the this is much more like what we're going through now is much more like the turn

00:26:24.560 of the last century, where the inventors were rebels. Right. And just they it was the Wild

00:26:31.920 West of invention. Yes. The if you think about all the names, some of the names I just mentioned,

00:26:38.720 Boeing, Grumman, Northrop, Hughes, Cessna, Lear, these are all named for individual

00:26:45.820 people. And what it meant was, was if you had a vision, you could take a risk because the company

00:26:51.220 belonged to you. And all the innovations came out of that. But even some of the big failures like

00:26:55.880 like Hughes's Hercules, which everybody called the Spruce Goose. He said, I want to build the

00:27:00.440 largest airplane in the world. Everybody said he was nuts. But since it was his company, he could do 0.90

00:27:05.060 it. It turned out that that particular experiment failed. But somebody said it absolutely got it

00:27:09.820 perfectly. Once they said, if there had been an FAA in the golden age of aviation in the 1930s,

00:27:15.020 then today we would be traveling from New York to Los Angeles in a propeller powered airplane with

00:27:21.180 wooden wings and 4000 feet. It would take 40 hours and cost nine thousand dollars. And that's what

00:27:28.140 happens when you let people compete against each other and drive for the top instead of for the bottom.

00:27:33.480 Is there still a because I'm I'm about your age, Bill, and I remember I saw something just the

00:27:42.700 other day that is one of those those like robotic hands that you just you you have a grip and just

00:27:49.860 an extension and it can get things off of shelves. And I thought, oh, my gosh, I haven't seen one of

00:27:54.240 these since I was a kid. And that was a toy. You know, it was like, that's the robotic hand from

00:27:59.860 space. And that's what the that's what they you know, they're using on the moon. And it's now it's

00:28:05.860 just a, you know, something that you use, you know, to get things off of a higher shelf. Is there is

00:28:12.800 there that moment of imagination like we used to have when we were kids with the with the moon shot?

00:28:20.920 It's funny you mentioned that, because in the first episode of this, after I lay out what's going on

00:28:25.020 with the actual landing, I say, you can't understand how we landed on the moon, unless you

00:28:30.080 understand the idea of a cap gun. Because in the 50s and 60s, it was nobody was talking about space

00:28:36.160 yet. Sputnik hadn't happened. So it was cowboys and Indians land here in America. But here you are, 0.94

00:28:40.960 and you want to sell a toy gun to kids. And what you want is you want that kid to be able to pull

00:28:44.960 the trigger, have it go bang. And if you can have smoke come out of it, even better. So this isn't Red

00:28:50.600 Dead Redemption. And we're not going to do it in the Unreal 4 engine. And we don't have particle

00:28:54.160 effects. And we're not going to have sound effects. We have to physically make this thing

00:28:58.280 work in the real world. So they decided, I know, let's make a little red strip of paper,

00:29:03.260 and we'll put little blobs of actual gunpowder there. And when you pull the trigger, it'll pop

00:29:08.280 that little thing of gunpowder and go bang. And there's the smoke. That's an actual engineering

00:29:12.900 challenge. And you couldn't do that in a computer, you had to make it work in the real world.

00:29:18.340 And that practicality was what allowed us to get to the moon. That and the fact that you and I

00:29:24.140 had fathers that would let their sons go out with rolls of caps and actual claw hammers and smash

00:29:29.380 them all at the same time and make a big old noise. You lose an eye in the process. Well,

00:29:33.480 that's the price of going to the moon. That's right. That's exactly right. Bill, thank you for

00:29:38.860 this great salute to Apollo 11 and to the moonshot and reminding us how good it felt. How good it felt.

00:29:47.600 Thank you. The thing I'm most proud about this story is there are so many backstage human elements,

00:29:53.160 so many weird things. Buzz Aldrin said, held communion on the moon. The first fluid poured

00:29:59.320 on another planet was wine. There's so many interesting human stories behind the technology.

00:30:06.060 And I'm just extremely honored to have had a chance to speak for those men of whom I think

00:30:11.220 four remain who actually walked on the moon. It's a tremendous honor for me.

00:30:14.380 Thanks, Bill. Bill Whittle, BillWhittle.com. You can find this documentary that he has done. It is

00:30:20.600 fantastic. It's Apollo 11, What We Saw. It comes from our friends at the Daily Wire. You can find

00:30:27.280 at Daily Wire's YouTube, Apollo 11, What We Saw.

00:30:38.380 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:30:44.380 So, last night I was watching this little mini doc. It was about 10 minutes long.

00:30:59.100 It's about the planned U.S. nuclear attack against the former Soviet Union. And our plan was to wipe the 0.98

00:31:06.900 Soviet Union off the map. Now, I'm always fascinated by these things because they're plans for everything.

00:31:12.760 You know, that's what the Pentagon is supposed to do, is plan for everything. And the plans for the

00:31:20.020 Soviet Union coming across and killing all of us and taking over the United States, those are just 1.00

00:31:26.780 as diabolical and evil. And they didn't happen. But they were planned just in case. You have to have 0.82

00:31:34.060 that plan. I hope, I hope the United States has a plan for any scenario. That's their job.

00:31:43.760 But I was interested in seeing this because it was a plan that was developed in 1945,

00:31:48.060 right after the Second World War. And it was dated September 15th. I want you to listen to this

00:31:55.580 and tell me if anything sticks out. Listen to a bit of this.

00:31:59.640 Western media has largely focused its attention on the Cold War U.S.-USSR confrontation. The plan to

00:32:07.140 annihilate the Soviet Union, dating back to World War II and the infamous Manhattan Project, are not

00:32:12.900 mentioned. Washington's Cold War nuclear plans are invariably presented as a response to so-called

00:32:20.000 Soviet threats, when in fact it was the U.S. September 1945 plan to wipe out the Soviet Union,

00:32:26.720 which motivated Moscow to develop its nuclear weapons capabilities. Had the U.S. decided not

00:32:33.480 to develop nuclear weapons for use against the Soviet Union, the nuclear arms race would not

00:32:38.700 have taken place. Neither the Soviet Union nor the People's Republic of China would have developed

00:32:44.860 nuclear capabilities as a means of deterrence. The Soviet Union lost 26 million people during

00:32:52.580 World War II. The USSR developed its own atomic bomb in 1949 in response to the 1942 Soviet intelligence

00:33:01.220 reports on the Manhattan Project. Now listen to this. I'm quoting from the rest of this. The document

00:33:07.920 outlining this diabolical military agenda was released in September 1945. It's worth noting that Stalin was 0.86

00:33:16.540 first informed through official channels by Harry Truman of the infamous Manhattan Project at the

00:33:22.180 Potsdam Conference in July 24th, 1949, barely two weeks before the attack on Hiroshima. But the Kremlin was

00:33:29.000 fully aware of the secret Manhattan Project as early as 1942. Were the 1945 Hiroshima and Nagasaki attacks

00:33:38.300 used by the Pentagon to evaluate the viability of a much larger attack on the Soviet Union consisting of more

00:33:45.840 than 204 bombs. So they're making the case that the only reason why we bombed Japan was so we could test it

00:33:53.180 out to see what would it take to really wipe out the Soviet Union. Then towards the end, it says in the

00:34:00.380 post-Cold War era, under Donald Trump's fire and fury, nuclear war directed against Russia, China, North

00:34:06.180 Korea, and Iran is on the table. Today's president, Donald Trump, does not have the foggiest idea as to the

00:34:13.800 consequences of nuclear war. Communication between the White House and the Kremlin is at an all-time low.

00:34:20.820 In fact, in 1962, the leaders on both sides, John F. Kennedy and Nikita Khrushchev, were acutely aware of the

00:34:27.800 dangers of nuclear annihilation. They collaborated with a view to avoid the unthinkable. The nuclear

00:34:35.500 doctrine was entirely different than the Cold War. Both Washington and Moscow understood the realities

00:34:41.320 of mutually assured destruction. The one trillion plus nuclear weapons program was first launched

00:34:50.640 under Obama, and it is ongoing. Today's thermonuclear bombs are more than 100 times more powerful and

00:34:56.380 destructive than the Hiroshima bomb, and both the U.S. and Russia have several thousand nuclear weapons

00:35:02.080 already deployed. But moreover, and more importantly, an all-out war against China is currently on the

00:35:09.680 drawing board of the Pentagon, as outlined by the RAND Corporation, commissioned by the U.S. Army.

00:35:16.020 This is insane. It ends with the U.S. has a long history of political insanity geared towards providing

00:35:29.580 a human face to U.S. crimes against humanity. So I'm watching this, and it just slowly starts to go

00:35:41.640 awry. It goes from a documentary to a propaganda piece. And so I did a little bit of research.

00:35:51.940 It is coming from a guy in Canada who is a huge supporter of the Soviet Union, has been for a very

00:36:02.700 long time, conspiracy theorists, etc., etc. The thing is, is this is what Russia is doing to us.

00:36:13.140 We, we are not awake at all to see the manipulation that is going on by enemies, enemies of ours, Russia, 0.80

00:36:26.300 Russia, the Palestinians. I'm sorry, but the Palestinian government is, is not a friend of the United

00:36:36.320 States. Iran, not a friend of the United States. I was listening to NPR this morning, because I like 1.00

00:36:41.620 to hear what the other side is saying. The way they phrased what's happening with Turkey was

00:36:46.760 unbelievable. Turkey was in NATO, and the United States needs to have Turkey in NATO. 0.88

00:36:53.160 No, I don't think so. A lot of people think that that was a mistake. And Turkey is buddying up 0.96

00:37:01.820 with Russia. In fact, they just decided to buy a Russian air defense system. We told, we told Turkey,

00:37:11.100 well, then you're not buying any of our planes, because you can't be double dealing on both sides.

00:37:15.760 You'll have the planes and the Russians over there with their anti-missile system. No, you're not

00:37:22.260 getting both technology. NPR was spinning this as, look at Donald Trump. He just wants war.

00:37:30.100 We've got to have Turkey. We have to have Turkey as an ally. Turkey hasn't been a real ally in a very

00:37:36.600 long time. I mean, geez, I can get more accurate information by driving in a cab in New York City

00:37:43.920 than listening to some of these buffoons on the radio. I mean, I was just up in New York, and there 0.95

00:37:50.600 was a guy, he was from Turkey. He had been here for 10 years. I said, so what do you think of Turkey?

00:37:57.200 What's happening over there? Him not knowing that I know what's happening in Turkey. And he said,

00:38:02.400 you know, 15 years ago, we thought maybe it would go all right. He said, it started to go awry,

00:38:09.240 and the government became very totalitarian. He said, and I was just beginning to see it.

00:38:15.400 And he said, so I decided to move over here to the United States for educational purposes. He said,

00:38:19.980 now I would never go back there. He said, it is a totalitarian state, and it is very,

00:38:26.720 very scary what's happening in Turkey. Where is that analysis from NPR?

00:38:32.120 Yeah, nowhere. Nowhere. And I will say too, a related topic here. I don't know this guy's exact

00:38:39.140 situation, but that's the exact type of immigrant you want. It's exactly the type of person who looks 0.99

00:38:44.280 and sees, you know, a totalitarian or a socialist government starting to crack down and comes here

00:38:50.560 because they're celebrating the things that we have, the opportunities. He came here with the hope

00:38:55.720 of someday returning, but he came over here because he knew the education that he could get.

00:39:01.660 He came over here, then saw, oh man, I've got it free and easy here compared to back home. I am

00:39:07.420 not going back there. And then he spoke to me about how much he loved America, how all of the

00:39:14.200 opportunities that we have and how Americans just don't see it. Right. And there's no one with that

00:39:18.880 story. No one's chanting, send them back to that person, no matter what color they are. Nope.

00:39:24.240 No matter what they look like. Nope.

00:39:25.720 No matter what they look like. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:39:40.840 Jamie Kilstein. He is a comedian. He is a podcaster. He is a former social justice warrior that did a lot

00:39:54.340 of destruction. He, um, destroyed his life or his life was destroyed for him. He was a guy who was

00:40:01.960 suicidal. He's a human. And he seems to be an honest human that is looking to, to anybody who will say

00:40:14.480 enough is enough. Can't we just talk about things? Welcome to the program, Jamie Kilstein.

00:40:21.800 Thank you so much for having me. Your intro was so nice. And as you were doing it, I was like, wow,

00:40:28.020 I said terrible things about you. That was so, uh, yeah, that was so kind. I mean, uh, that means a lot.

00:40:38.080 And, uh, I mean, I literally, I don't know if you remember this. I was so bad years ago at one point,

00:40:46.200 I have you on my resume because at one point my old very lefty podcast essentially just was trolling you

00:40:54.980 and did an episode called like the F you Glenn Beck episode and had like Bill Ayers was, uh, was like

00:41:02.460 our guest. And man, I would have loved to hear. I'd love to, you have to send it to me. I'd love to

00:41:08.480 hear it. I'd love to hear it. Yeah. And then I think you talked about it on your show and you called

00:41:14.920 me a doofus. Like we were both so ridiculous. You called me a doofus and then I put it on my resume. 1.00

00:41:20.880 So when I would like go to clubs and stuff, my resume was like, I had a blurb from like Robin 0.88

00:41:25.720 Williams. I had a really nice newspaper blurb. And then the last one said, Jamie Kilstein is a doofus

00:41:30.840 Glenn Beck. Very funny. But like you at the time, I would rather have promoted myself off of something 0.76

00:41:41.100 negative and something crappy like that than actually, you know, talent or, uh, anyway, long story

00:41:47.700 short. Thank you for having me on. You're welcome. I'm having you on because you are, you have an

00:41:53.460 incredible story. Um, you are somebody who admits, holy cow, was, was I going down the wrong path?

00:42:03.660 And you in, you enjoyed the darkness of it. I, I had a kind of a different story. I didn't really

00:42:10.700 enjoy the darkness of it. I just, I just was filled with certitude that I knew who other people

00:42:18.500 were and everybody was in a group. And that's, that's not true. And, uh, when you're being attacked,

00:42:26.880 as you know, and I know you're being attacked, you attack back, uh, cause it felt like it was life

00:42:32.260 and death. It really did. Yeah. And I mean, I had that certitude too, for sure. Um, that's what's so

00:42:40.200 scary about the internet and tribalism and echo chambers where, when you get your following and

00:42:48.120 you start talking to people offline less and online more, and you attack someone, uh, those likes go up

00:42:56.040 and those retweets go up. And if like me, you were drinking and you were depressed and you were in a

00:43:01.640 failing marriage and you didn't really like your friends in New York, but if I opened my computer

00:43:07.040 and I went online and I attacked whoever the left was attacking that day, and then I started just to

00:43:12.820 get, you know, validation, validation, validation, that made me feel good. And you know, the thing on

00:43:18.460 the left is I never liked when people said the extreme left was the same as the extreme right,

00:43:24.120 because I was like, in my head, you know, the right started wars and nobody was like dropping into

00:43:30.680 Iraq being like free healthcare. And I thought that was like a garbage analogy, but now I see what

00:43:36.620 people are talking about. And I think what they mean when they say that it's the, the rhetoric of 0.68

00:43:41.240 the extreme right and the extreme left and what you were talking about in your intro, which is just not

00:43:46.880 being willing to have conversation. So I had that certitude. I thought I was doing the right thing.

00:43:52.620 Also take in mind, I dropped out of high school. I'm a white straight dude. Um, I have, uh,

00:43:58.680 so many insecurities, um, that whenever someone did tell me I was wrong or I wasn't being progressive

00:44:05.160 enough, I just thought that meant I was a bad person. So my certitude almost came from like a

00:44:11.680 self-hatred point of view. Um, but a lot of it did have to do with, with getting the validation that I

00:44:18.440 wasn't getting in my real life. And to be honest, I think a lot of people are going through that. I

00:44:22.700 think anytime somebody tweets you and they don't know you and they're attacking you,

00:44:27.660 the proper response is like, Hey man, are you okay with your dad? Like, do you need to call your mom?

00:44:32.340 Like what's going on, uh, in your personal life to make you spend all day yelling at strangers on

00:44:37.460 the internet? That is exactly the lesson I learned. Cause I was very against Donald Trump. And there I

00:44:44.180 was, I was, you know, I, I worried about my own audience. How, how, how, how we've been together this

00:44:50.240 long and you don't see what I see or how I see. And I, and I've always felt like I've loved my

00:44:58.160 audience. And I, I really do. This audience is amazing. Just an amazing audience. Um, and I,

00:45:04.640 I was so confused and angry all coming from me, none of it coming from them. And I realized about,

00:45:10.440 I don't know, six months after the election, you hypocrite, you say you love the audience, 0.99

00:45:16.620 but you don't, because if somebody was acting like that in your real life, you would say to them, 0.98

00:45:21.080 what's happening in your life? Because this is out of step. So what's happening? And what I missed was

00:45:28.100 the tremendous pain and fear that people are feeling. And that's everywhere. Now, everywhere,

00:45:36.060 people are in this, this pain and the fear of look how bad things are getting. And nobody seems to be

00:45:44.740 doing anything about it. Yeah. If we talked to people in real life, like we talk to people online,

00:45:54.520 America, it would look like the purge. Like we would all just be attacking each other all day.

00:46:01.700 And once you step back, like you did, like I'm trying to do and talk to people as humans and talk to

00:46:09.640 people face to face and realize that, like you said, like we're all scared. We're all insecure.

00:46:16.680 We're all trying to be better. We're all trying to provide for our family. It doesn't matter if

00:46:20.340 you're on the left, on the right, we all want to pet the stranger's dog before making eye contact

00:46:24.740 with them. Like these are all things we want to do. But what's happening when you go online is you're

00:46:31.420 like, well, I guess everyone on the left is like a milkshake throwing not or anarchist. And everyone on the

00:46:36.960 right is a Nazi. And we're not having conversations because we are so determined to defend our team 0.65

00:46:43.720 blindly. I mean, here's the thing. If I on the left call every Trump voter a racist, when Trump does

00:46:51.580 something racist, do you think that the people that I've been demonizing are going to want to

00:46:58.520 they're going to want to defend him or not say anything because they feel like they've been put

00:47:03.520 in the corner by the left? That is exactly Jamie. That is the that is I called everybody I knew in media

00:47:10.320 and said, listen, here's what I've learned. I I said these things. I still believe these things. But the way

00:47:19.860 I said them put everybody into a posture of I got to defend him. I got to defend Obama because he's been

00:47:27.340 attacked all the time. And I said, you will only make things much worse. If that's what you do,

00:47:34.140 you have to reach out and say, what is it you're saying? What are you hearing? And they don't get it.

00:47:43.880 Yeah, 100%. And I, you know, it's the saddest part about it is the audience you've built,

00:47:51.060 the audience I'm building is amazing. And I'm very proud of it. However, I know when I when I went to

00:47:59.580 my agent in LA, under Donald Trump, and I, you know, I used to be rich when I was just screaming

00:48:06.940 liberal and would just attack people all day. And now I'm not. And when I went to him, and I was like,

00:48:12.580 hey, I know everybody's being political. And we're the most divided we've ever been. How about I do a

00:48:18.140 podcast about nuance and dialogue, like the disappointment on his face was palpable.

00:48:24.460 Right. And the problem is, the sad part is, when you spoke out, you probably got crap from both 0.96

00:48:31.500 sides. Yes, I spoke out, I got crap on both sides. I actually, even though I'm still pretty liberal on 0.99

00:48:38.980 most things, I'm very well aware that if I wanted to be like a millionaire, I mean, this is when I was

00:48:45.140 sleeping on a couch, after having like a pretty great life financially, at least in New York,

00:48:51.460 I was getting offers to kind of be like the the left wing guy who goes right wing, like I could

00:48:58.040 have written that book that was, you know, why I left the left, hosting my own show on Fox News and

00:49:03.960 like a couple years, and I would have had money and I would have done like mental jujitsu to convince

00:49:08.600 myself I wasn't selling out. But I'm, I'm not that. And I'm much slower building this show

00:49:17.360 about kind of what you're doing. The sad thing for me is, I don't know if you experienced it in

00:49:24.820 the opposite way. But the sad thing for me is I'm getting booked far more on conservative shows. And

00:49:32.080 they know I'm still liberal. Like I'm not suddenly, you know, changing my stances on a ton of things I

00:49:37.500 have on on a couple. And I'm not getting booked on left wing. Yeah. So, Jamie, I that that that in

00:49:45.240 some ways happened with me to where but I was looking to go on to the other side because I was

00:49:51.860 trying to find somebody would have real dialogue. They would they always approached it with me that

00:49:58.360 Glenn Beck has changed his he's had a change of heart and he's had a change of view. And I'm like,

00:50:03.900 no, I still believe everything that I used to believe. There's just one big difference here.

00:50:10.380 And and in your case, you still believe in policies, but you're not the social justice warrior

00:50:16.200 that is taking everybody down. And you literally were you were one of the guys who were like the

00:50:22.340 first on the bandwagon to get people fired. Oh, yeah, 100 percent. And it's again, I think that social

00:50:31.700 media, I think that social media, it dehumanizes people where they're not a person with a family.

00:50:38.380 They're a Twitter avatar that is expendable. We're cartoon characters. Yeah. And people,

00:50:47.260 myself included, you get this rush and we're so desperate for it. I think the Kevin Hart one's a

00:50:54.640 really great example where you had a bunch of people on the left trying to take down a young

00:51:01.220 black entrepreneur who I mean, I remember seeing him at open mics who has built himself up to being

00:51:08.580 this mega star. And it wasn't like he said something the day before he hosted the Oscars.

00:51:15.320 It wasn't like he was like giving a speech and was like, man, I hope there aren't gay people at 1.00

00:51:19.340 the Oscars tomorrow. Somebody had to dig. Somebody had to dig 10 years in the future. They saw someone 0.98

00:51:28.640 succeeding. I mean, we're doing the opposite of self-help. We're doing the opposite of positive

00:51:33.340 affirmations, of lifting people up, of showing gratitude. We are going online every day and

00:51:37.600 searching that guy's successful instead of how do I emulate him? How do I learn from him? I want to

00:51:42.980 take him down. And if we spent as much time trying to take other people down as we did, like building

00:51:48.140 ourselves and other people up, all of us would be successful and we would be far less miserable.

00:51:52.460 But we are searching out people to destroy. And for me, when I was doing it, yeah, it was like

00:51:58.860 the bullies, the popular kids in high school where suddenly Justine Sacco was on a plane and she made

00:52:05.460 this tweet that's offensive. And when she lands, she's going to be fired. And we would all gleefully 0.79

00:52:10.540 be trying to come up with the most clever joke or what, you know, we would ask the people so they

00:52:16.460 knew they were being talked about or gossiped about. And I still get that online. And the kind

00:52:23.860 of addiction, like it was that same feeling of an alcoholic, of a drug addict, of like,

00:52:30.740 I know I shouldn't do this, but I'm going to do this. And then it takes over your life. I mean,

00:52:35.600 I remember one day where I was freaking out and I was fighting with this liberal journalist because

00:52:41.140 the left loves nothing more, uh, than to fight with their own. I was fighting with this guy,

00:52:46.040 Josh Marshall. Uh, he runs like, uh, or he ran at least at the time talking points memo.

00:52:51.040 And I was ignoring my family and I was yelling at him and he was with his kids on the beach and he's

00:52:57.900 fighting with me. And like, at one point he wrote FU freedom fighter to me. And I like took a screenshot

00:53:04.000 and I posted it. And it's like, both of us should have been with our families at that time. And then I

00:53:09.220 remember I was like, all right, I'm going to close my computer. I'm going to stop fighting with him.

00:53:13.040 And I went, I lived on prospect park. So I was like, I'm going to go walk through the park.

00:53:17.020 And before I even knew it, it's like blacking out and showing up at another bar. I was in the park

00:53:23.740 on my cell phone fighting with someone else on Twitter. And that becomes your reality because

00:53:29.480 people forget. Um, there's no way I would have made it as a teenager with social media because it

00:53:35.620 follows you around. You're sitting, yeah, you're sitting on the toilet and a stranger's calling

00:53:40.780 you a cuck. Jamie, I, I'm sorry. I have to cut this short because we have breaking news that I 0.97

00:53:49.660 have to get to. May I ask you to come in and do a podcast with me? I would, I would honestly,

00:53:57.320 I would love to, I would love to apologize in person, grab coffee a hundred percent.

00:54:01.880 I appreciate it. God bless or, or not, whichever it is with you, with God. So thank you for being

00:54:08.080 on the program. The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:54:16.120 There is some very timely breaking news today. Um, yesterday, Donald Trump said, you know,

00:54:35.800 there's, there's a question of Ilan Omar and her relationship with her family and her, her taxes.

00:54:44.900 Uh, and we, we, we pretty much have the Minneapolis, uh, Tribune star to, uh, to verify that. Yeah.

00:54:53.400 The tax thing is definitely, uh, weird, uh, and it looks fraudulent. She filed, uh, income tax

00:55:01.860 saying she was married to someone else when, uh, she was actually married to another guy and they

00:55:09.820 were all three living together. It was a weird, weird story. But David Steinberg has been

00:55:14.880 working on this story for a long, long time with a couple of other people working together and it

00:55:20.340 has been hard to tie up all of the loose ends on this story. Was she married to her brother?

00:55:27.820 And if so, why David Steinberg has just broken, uh, with a new story on powerlineblog.com. Uh,

00:55:35.820 and I have looked at the evidence and it's pretty strong. There's some things that I question.

00:55:41.440 I'm not sure. And I'm not sure I understand the story yet, David, because it's very complex. Um,

00:55:47.800 but give me the gist of this new story. Hey, Glenn, thanks for having me on. So what, uh,

00:55:55.800 what I published this morning, I've had for several months. Essentially, we've been holding onto this

00:56:01.180 information that, uh, altogether does compile what, what I would consider a smoking gun here.

00:56:07.960 There just simply aren't any other possibilities at this point, uh, for this to not have been her

00:56:15.080 brother. I'll put it that way. But what I published today connects her to the, to this individual in

00:56:23.540 England as her sibling. That's something that hasn't been published yet. We had these, uh, charges of

00:56:30.980 fraud before we had some other evidence published that showed she might have committed, uh, that she 0.83

00:56:41.280 was married to two men at the same time. This is the first time any information has been published

00:56:45.500 that directly ties her to this person in a sibling relationship. Okay. Now I'm it's, there's two

00:56:52.860 Ahmaud's in her life. If I'm not mistaken, there is the Ahmaud that she was married to here in the

00:56:59.440 United States and has two children. Then she supposedly got a divorce, but not an official

00:57:06.180 divorce of a spiritual divorce or something. Uh, and then she married this other Ahmaud and this is

00:57:14.000 the one that you claim is the brother. And is this an actual blood brother or is this a, uh, somebody

00:57:23.240 that she was kind of adopted into this family? Uh, what I'm hearing from sources, uh, multiple

00:57:32.960 sources within the Minnesota, Minneapolis, Somali community. First of all, we're talking about what

00:57:39.140 is an open secrets, uh, among the Somali community there. And to be honest, secret is not the

00:57:44.700 appropriate word. This is simply open. If you have a decent understanding of Somali, for example,

00:57:51.160 and you poke around a bit, you're going to find all of this online openly yourself. That's just to

00:57:57.980 start with. Uh, second, I do believe we are talking about a blood brother here. And what happened is

00:58:05.520 according to these sources back in Somalia, 1995, the father had five children and he did not have

00:58:15.820 a means of getting them out of this refugee camp. I'm sorry, in the refugee camp in Kenya. 1.00

00:58:21.800 So another family, a second family, uh, the Omars offered him to the opportunity to fraudulently

00:58:31.540 take himself and two of his children into their family, which was being granted asylum.

00:58:39.680 Okay. So, um, let's just give this the benefit of the doubt. You're, we're all in a, in a refugee 0.86

00:58:47.700 camp. I have no chance of getting out and you were a good friend and you say, uh, look, Glenn,

00:58:53.760 I take two of your family members and you, and I can get you into Great Britain. We just have to,

00:59:00.120 you just have to be part of my family. You're now Omar. That's, that's what's being charged here.

00:59:06.860 Correct. Okay. This was a common transaction. Okay. In those days, in those refugee camps, 0.79

00:59:12.740 people would sell their extra spots or sell, uh, the, the willingness to fraudulently add someone to

00:59:20.720 their family. And this was, this was rampant. Uh, as far as several people have spoken to, it's rampant.

00:59:28.940 There was a, also a, a DNA testing done by the U S government, uh, about a decade later,

00:59:37.400 mostly on Somali immigrants. I mentioned this article and they concluded that up to 87% of

00:59:43.900 applicants for this priority three family reunification program for refugees, up to 87% of

00:59:51.780 applicants were applying fraudulently. They were not members of the family they claimed to be.

00:59:57.780 Okay. Um, but there's no, there's no, I'm just, I just want to make sure that we are looking and

01:00:04.540 giving the benefit of the doubt all the way along. There's nothing, I mean, it's illegal and it's

01:00:10.040 fraud, uh, but it wasn't a terrorist thing or anything. This was, how do I get out of a refugee 1.00

01:00:15.460 camp? So correct. Yeah. Um, um, I stressed that in the article that they were fleeing from a hellish

01:00:22.620 situation in Somalia. Correct. So we looked to what happened back in 1995 as a way to find answers

01:00:28.700 for what she might've done in 2000, uh, in 2009, once she was a U S citizen, she, she became a U S

01:00:36.840 citizen in 2000. So the excuse that it was, uh, it was a horrific situation they were fleeing from.

01:00:45.120 That was no longer active. She'd been a U S citizen for nine years when she entered this marriage with

01:00:51.320 the man who certainly now appears to be her brother. Why would she do that? She was married,

01:00:58.460 had two kids. She says she was married, you know, in her religious tradition, but not legally,

01:01:05.240 um, had two kids. Um, why would she then say that she's leaving her husband is, but as you find out

01:01:12.860 later, they're all living in the same house. What are they, what is she gaining by marrying this guy?

01:01:20.040 We have several different possible possibilities. The most obvious one is speeding up the immigration 1.00

01:01:28.700 case for her brother. Okay. So he was not an American citizen. He was a British citizen.

01:01:34.220 He had been a British citizen for several years. Correct. Okay. Now that's the first issue. The second

01:01:40.660 issue is that this entire marriage to this second individual occurred while both he and Ilhan were

01:01:48.940 attending North Dakota state university. So they get married, uh, summer of 2009. They go to North

01:01:56.880 Dakota state university. Ilhan enrolls in the fall. She graduates in the spring of 2011.

01:02:04.880 And that is when she tells people their marriage, their relationship ends and she never sees him

01:02:10.400 again. Now he was also enrolled at North Dakota state university at the time too. So the other

01:02:16.500 likelihood here is student loan fraud, uh, being married, the two of them were much more likely to

01:02:24.840 get a better, a better deal, uh, considering they would no longer be dependents of their parents,

01:02:30.220 that income would not be included. So faster fraud is definitely a possibility, which is also punished

01:02:36.700 very severely. Uh, five years, I believe for each instance of fraud on a federal faster form is the

01:02:44.980 maximum. And one of the other things that is bizarre is that they claim on, I think it's tax documents

01:02:53.000 that, uh, uh, they're living, they're all kind of living together, right? The old husband and quote,

01:03:01.220 the new husband living in the same house. These didn't show up on tax documents. I did a deep

01:03:07.480 search into old address records and I found them all living in the same house for that first year

01:03:14.020 in North Dakota state, uh, in Fargo. They moved, they, all three of them moved to a second location

01:03:22.100 for their second year at the university. And I, uh, was also able to confirm that through articles.

01:03:30.620 I, Ilhan has stated in the past that she was with Ahmed Hersey and her two kids in North Dakota

01:03:36.820 that, uh, she stated that long before she was involved in politics. I think that was in 24,

01:03:42.360 2014 or 2015. So we have quite a bit of evidence that she never separated from the man she'd had the

01:03:48.980 two kids with. Meanwhile, she had married this new individual and all three of them were at the

01:03:55.900 same address while they were attending college. And then she has to go and testify for the divorce, 1.00

01:04:02.940 correct? In the divorce that is in 2017. And she has to testify that she doesn't know where her,

01:04:12.720 her, her legal husband, possibly her, her brother. She has, she had no idea. She hadn't seen him since

01:04:19.900 2011. Correct. She testifies. She has not seen him since June, 2011. And now, unfortunately,

01:04:27.900 because she was applying for default, the fort, a default divorce where one of the spouses cannot be

01:04:35.520 found to be legally served. So she answers eight questions on this nine question form that are,

01:04:43.680 there is a very strong, uh, possibility that all eight questions are perjury because we have solid

01:04:50.880 proof that she was in touch with this person from 2011 until 2016 online on both of their confirmed

01:05:00.060 accounts. We have photographs of them visiting each other in London in 2015. This is the perjury case.

01:05:08.500 The perjury element of all of this is, is the most open and shut part of the whole story.

01:05:17.520 So what, what is, what do people do with this? I mean, because if you're, what's,

01:05:29.100 what's going to be said is, well, you don't know for sure. She's not answering any questions.

01:05:36.080 Um, the people who would prosecute this, I don't think are motivated to prosecute this or to even

01:05:43.100 look at it. You can't even get to the, um, the, uh, Minneapolis paper. I mean, they, they basically

01:05:49.620 said your early report is all right. Uh, however, nothing happened. Nothing happened.

01:05:58.320 So, well, nothing happened because they, they were not able to get the additional evidence that I did

01:06:04.660 publish today. And the additional evidence is they are the pictures and the, the, the Facebook posts

01:06:11.460 back and forth, correct? Correct. I can't, what we could not do before was connect her in a sibling

01:06:19.400 relationship. We had plenty of evidence that they were in touch all these years and appeared to be

01:06:26.420 conversing with each other as siblings. For example, he referred to her children as, as his nieces and

01:06:34.500 nephews. Now, what we did not have though, was any solid evidence besides that of them being siblings

01:06:44.280 prior to the marriage. And that's what I published today. And so tell me about those pictures quickly

01:06:50.660 because we're about out of time. Tell me about the other pictures and the other things that you have

01:06:54.760 found. Uh, well, quick summary. What I published today is that Ilhan has, uh, her father's name is

01:07:05.160 Nurse Saeed. I was able to confirm that she has called him by that name. There is a set, a sister named

01:07:11.560 Layla Nurse Saeed Elmi who lives in England. And I was able to confirm via her marriage records that she

01:07:21.020 also calls her father Nurse Saeed Elmi. And then what I found was these photographs which show Ilhan and

01:07:31.740 Layla Nurse Saeed Elmi together with their father Nurse Saeed on a family trip. And talking about,

01:07:40.780 talking about him as their wonderful father. Talking about him as their wonderful father. I posted a

01:07:46.320 second photograph of Ilhan with her arm around Layla. And Ilhan puts the caption on the photograph,

01:07:54.320 I heart my sister. Now, I also, along with the official marriage document from the UK of Layla

01:08:02.720 testifying that her father's name is Nurse Saeed Elmi, we have a very strong connection that this woman

01:08:08.660 is Ilhan's sister. And this is what we did not have before. We didn't have this connection to London.

01:08:12.700 Now, the sister Layla, I have found through sources, was the guardian of Ahmed Nur Saeed Elmi during his

01:08:23.180 teenage years in London. She essentially raised him. She was his older sister. She was 23. He was 12

01:08:32.420 when they first arrived. And she was his guardian in London until he was 18 years old. Now, I have some

01:08:41.940 other evidence showing that in the article, some address records showing where they lived.

01:08:46.480 The school he attended was just around the block from Layla's address. And there are,

01:08:54.460 just to top it off, there are some posts I found where he is referring to her as mom and she's referring

01:09:02.500 to him as son. All right. So this is what we weren't able to do in the past, was connect all of them

01:09:07.680 together as family members. And that's what I posted today. The Blaze Radio Network.

01:09:15.360 On demand.

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