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The Glenn Beck Program
- February 24, 2021
Best of The Program | Guests: Bjorn Lomborg & Jason Whitlock | 2⧸24⧸21
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Word Count
5,183
Sentence Count
7
Misogynist Sentences
2
Hate Speech Sentences
4
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oh my gosh stew great show great podcast the best you bet it's uh all on today's podcast we have
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jason whitlock uh bjorn lumberg on with us to talk about green cars you may not like all the
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things he says uh because he actually believes that you know we are all gonna die some point
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uh just that's not what he says no no uh he's what i really like about bjorn lumberg is that
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he goes he plays on their battlefields right like he looks at it and says okay uh here's all the
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science that you say is really important we need to know i'm gonna actually read it all
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and uh put it in perspective and he does a great job doing that today on the program
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and we also talk a little bit about uh cancel culture it is getting real with the banks and
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i'll share a personal story on today's podcast don't forget to subscribe to blaze tv you know
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slash glenn promo code is glenn for 30 bucks off you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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matt taiby uh is a journalist who has written for rolling stone he's kind of a glenn greenwald kind
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of guy a guy that i don't agree with you know very often um but he seems to be a classic liberal
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um and in some regards would you agree with that uh yeah maybe i don't know how i would i mean he's
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he's i've always thought of him on the left and every once in a while he writes things that you're
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like oh yeah yeah like absolutely like he's right on that and he's so he and like glenn greenwald has
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been pretty active in smacking down the sort of cancel culture woke wing of the democratic movement
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these days two and a half years ago he writes when alex jones of info wars was kicked off a series of
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tech platforms and a clearly coordinated decision i knew this was not going to be an isolated thing
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given that people like connecticut senator chris murphy said on the ouster of jones it was just a good
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first step it seemed obvious the tactic was not going to be confined to a few actors but corporate
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media critics insisted the precedent would not be applied more broadly uh cnn's so-and-so said i don't
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think that we're going to be seeing big tech take action against fox news anytime soon uh well that guy was
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wrong just a few years ago a few years later calls to ban fox are not only common they're intensifying
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with media voices from cnn to msnbc and former media matters critic uh to the washington post
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columnists yada yada all on board the movement crested this week with a letter from california house
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democrats anna eshu and jerry mcnernie written to the ceos of cable providers like comcast at&t verizon
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cox and dish they demanded to know if these providers are planning to continue to continue to carry fox
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news newsmax and oan i want to read point number seven from this congressional letter are you planning
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to continue carrying fox news newsmax and oan on u-verse direct tv and at&t tv both now and beyond
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any contract renewal date have you or have you ever been a member of a company that is carrying oan
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if so why this is terrifying should it should chill every journalist to the bone uh this sequence of
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events is ominous because a similar match set of hearings and interrogations back in 2017 when senators
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like maizey rono and judiciary committee hearing demanded that platforms like google and facebook come up
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with a mission statement to prevent the foment of discord accelerated the content moderation movement
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that we now see on platforms uh sequences like this the government requests of speech reduction made to
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companies subject to federal regulation make the content moderation decisions of private firms a serious
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first amendment issue these things are happening this is not a figment of anyone's imagination this is
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coming and we just have to be prepared and quite honestly please read martin luther king why are those
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troops still in washington because they want you to react violently they need you to react violently it is
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it tucker carlson talked about it i think it was last night the night before uh where he was saying
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look you couldn't write this script better you couldn't be more um inflammatory than what congress
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and the left is doing right now the the steps they're taking is fomenting real deep feelings in a lot in half the country
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they need you to be violent because that way they can come in and they can take arms they can stop banking
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they can become dictators and it is you know it was one thing to say uh barack obama was you know he wanted to be a dictator
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and there's another thing to say or donald trump he wanted to be a dictator and it's a completely other thing to say
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they are taking the steps to ensure an authoritarian regime and that is happening now steps are being taken
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to silence those who disagree who are not in lock step and it's not just being taken by the government
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it's being taken by large firms as well
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i'm going to give you one more piece of news quickly um amazon has decided that it's going to
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quietly end sales of books that it labels hate speech
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guys this is book burning when we had physical stores they would have to go take the books off the
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shelf and destroy them now you just digitally remove them and it's like it never happened
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if they were actually dumping these books if they were actually destroying or burning these books
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you would have the image in your mind
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remember we live in a time no longer of words we live in a time of images
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there was a guy who set himself on fire in tunisia months before the other guy did that is credited
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in a way of starting the um the tunisian riots which led to the arab spring another guy had done that
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same exact reasons he was also a push cart vendor why one and not the other because there was
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no images of him setting himself on fire it's the image images have real power
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why is it we can we are not all up in arms with our local school boards and our teachers and the teachers unions
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just based on the number of suicides that we've had from kids
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you don't ever see those pictures you don't ever hear those stories msnbc right now is running almost
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as a backdrop look at they're doing it right now of the january 6th attack on the capital okay
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they're running those pictures almost 24 7 they're running that videotape
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because they know that's what their audience wants and they are trying to stir their audience
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into hatred that's what's happening
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you know what you're not seeing you're not seeing pictures of the kids who have died
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you know emmett till his mother was really really smart
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emmett till if you don't know who emmett till was look him up today and you're gonna see when you
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look him up you're gonna see a picture of him in his coffin horribly horribly disfigured
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he was a black man who's in the south but he was from chicago
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he was killed brutally killed
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when he was returned to his mother in chicago in the coffin she insisted
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on having an open coffin because she said she wanted everyone to see
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what they had done to her boy and she was right
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we know emmett till's name because once you see that picture you can't unsee it
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and it stirred people into action
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where are the pictures on tv of people who have lost their jobs
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why did we are the world and michael jackson and all these people why did that happen
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why did that happen
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for ethiopia ethiopia is probably starving still today i don't even know
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why all of a sudden because we if you lived at that time you'll never forget the news reports
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of these terribly malnourished children with the bloated stomachs sitting just dying
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for just any rice you'll never forget those pictures
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you are being fed pictures
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of hatred
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you are not seeing the pictures of suffering
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right now millions of americans are suffering
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are they showing the pictures
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of those people in texas that are suffering
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that lost everything
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that that didn't have any power
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how about the people who froze to death here in texas
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you're not seeing those
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what you are seeing
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are pictures of
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of ted cruz
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leaving the state
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to keep his family warm
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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bjorn lomborg
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he is the author of false alarm
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president of the copenhagen consensus center
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and visiting fellow of the hoover institute
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uh welcome bjorn how are you
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hey glenn it's good to be back
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i'm good how are you
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i'm i'm good i'm i'm a little concerned
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uh you know how uh
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uh things are starting to be censored
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here in america and things are uh
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you know you're you're
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they're starting to call people with a different point of view
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um you know dangerous radicals and uh terrorists
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um uh and i i i wonder how far this is going to go
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uh we just saw amazon
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ban another book yesterday
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they said they're going to start deleting all books
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they consider hate speech
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i don't know if that's to gill a mockingbird
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you know or or mein kampf or what
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i just i've never lived in a country where we ban books
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and i wonder if you've thought of
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i mean this is not what i had you on for
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but i wonder if you've ever thought of
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you're you're an extremist
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you don't buy into
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the answers and the solutions for climate change
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yeah there's a lot so look
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uh my basic point is global warming is a real problem
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uh but it's often vastly exaggerated in impact
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and may you know a lot of the rhetoric around it
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make people panicky and it makes us make bad decisions
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and that's what i'm really challenging
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i i've had a lot of people tell me
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they would love to see me de-platformed
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they'd love to not see my uh or hear my arguments
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being uh voiced uh clearly
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uh but but i also think that most people recognize
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that's not the way to run a democracy
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uh actually uh i think john stewart mill already
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you know like almost 200 years ago
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uh pointed out that
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listening to people whom you don't agree with
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is a good idea
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partway if you're right
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they'll prove you right
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and they'll show you why you're right
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and if you're wrong of course
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you actually want to find out that you're wrong
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so listening to dissenting voices
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is a really good thing
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it makes democracy stronger
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and it's also likely it'll make your decision better
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only if we are rooted in
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you know the the scientific theory
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the the you know show me the evidence
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and i'll respond to the evidence
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we we we're no longer doing that
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there's we're just going off of
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what people you know want everybody to believe
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i believe in global warming
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i can read a thermometer
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what i don't believe in
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is a lot of the things that they say
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for instance the green new deal
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or let's just take this first
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electric cars
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well that's wonderful
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they're all electric
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but where are we getting the power
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to charge them
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am i wrong on thinking that way
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well well you're certainly right in your intuition
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that we need a lot more than just getting
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cars to be electric
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because let's face it
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uh as long as they're still power by coal power
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uh they will emit almost as much
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uh remember uh electric cars use a lot of energy
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typically in china or elsewhere
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mostly produced with with coal
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to produce their batteries
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correct and so once they get to you
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you can feel all virtues and green
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and drive around and feel really
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you know like i'm doing something for global warming
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but the reality is
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you've just emitted a lot of co2
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in china
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uh and and so you have to drive your car
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you know 40 60 000 miles
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before it's actually free
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and you can actually start saving
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now that depends a lot on how much
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of the power that you use
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come from fossil fuels
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but you also need
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to decarbonize
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the whole electricity grid
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and that turns out to be
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really really hard
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and so again
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we need to recognize
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that sure electric cars
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are you know
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great for some purposes
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if you
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i i have a friend who has a tesla
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and i've been driving
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i love it
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you know it's fun
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but first of all
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it's incredibly expensive
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so it's mostly fun
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for the upper classes
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and secondly
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it doesn't cut
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all that much co2
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uh so you know
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when when biden
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and many others
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are suggesting
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we should give subsidies
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in the tune of
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seven and a half thousand dollars
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maybe ten thousand dollars
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you are basically paying
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an extraordinarily high price
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to cut a little bit of co2
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you could have spent that money
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much much better either
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cutting carbon emissions
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or remember
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there's a lot of other problems
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that you want to fix
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both in the u.s.
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or around the world
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so again
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this is a question
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about getting our priorities right
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it's a question
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of getting a sense of
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what is the impact
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of what you try to do
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not just feeling virtuous
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but actually doing good
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so bjorn i i
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i put my trust
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in the free
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not the corrupt capitalism
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that we have now
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but in the actual free market
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to solve these things
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and we're just not there yet
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we are going to solve these things
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but look at what happened to texas
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now it's not entirely
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because of you know
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we're cutting back
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and and and cutting back on
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uh you know fuels
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that we have grown to trust
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uh you know
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and gone all to windmills
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but it's partially because of that
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and i have no problem
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i i own a farm
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it's completely green energy
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it's completely off the grid
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it's solar
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and it's wind power
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and it's backed up by natural gas
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if we have to
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um i'm all for it
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but a only the rich can afford it
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and b
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in i've spent
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i can't tell you how much money
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getting this to be stable
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it's not ready yet
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for prime time
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no and and and certainly most people
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i was actually very curious to hear
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that you have backup from from gas
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because most people of course
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just get the backup
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from the electricity grid
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uh which of course
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simply means that they get all the subsidies
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and they push on all the cost
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of uh of still driving the the rest
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of the electricity system
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to typically the poor rate pairs
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uh so so in some sense
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you're you're absolutely right
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most of this
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is something that supports
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rich people a lot
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and and supports a lot of uh
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of uh virtue signaling
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but actually does fairly little
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to cut carbon emissions
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and you're right about the idea
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that what what the texas
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uh uh uh uh the terrible incident
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in texas last week
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i think shows most clearly
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not you know was it windmills fault
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or was it the gas
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or the cold power fire plants
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or or even the nuclear plant
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that that dropped off for a while
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it's much more a question saying
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without stable power
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you're really up creek
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yes society you need stable power
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that's what makes us rich
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if you go to many developing countries
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one of the things you see
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is they all have a diesel generator
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because they know they can't
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trust the power system
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and that is one of the reasons
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why they're trapped in poverty
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because you don't want to invest
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in a place where you don't
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have sustainable power
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that's why we cannot imagine
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ourselves run just off of wind
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and solar
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although people love to say that
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because what are you going to do
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when the sun is not shining
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and the wind is not blowing
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and remember people then
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you know sort of uh
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facility i'm not sure
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whether that's an affair
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but but you know
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they very easily say
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oh we'll just have batteries
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remember you need a lot of batteries
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right now the u.s have batteries
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enough to support 14 seconds
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of u.s electricity consumption
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oh my gosh
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nowhere near being able to have that
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for hours days or even season
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and i will tell you
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they're wildly expensive
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uh they i mean you still have to
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replace those batteries over time
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uh and they don't hold as much
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as anybody thinks they do
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i mean it's you know i am on solar
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and i put it all into batteries
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but i'll tell you
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we go a week without sunshine
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we ain't using that
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i mean we have these gigantic batteries
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they're out
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yeah
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they're out
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there's there was a wonderful um story
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uh in uh in a little northeast
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uh uh indian village
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it was the first indian village
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that went all uh solar
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uh supported by greenpeace
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uh and you know they got lots and lots of pr
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uh and everybody was very excited
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in this village
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because they didn't have any electricity
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uh so clearly uh getting some solar
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electricity was better than nothing
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uh but what happened when they turned it on
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was of course after two hours at night
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yep
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everybody had depleted it
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so they had to start telling people
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oh you can't use this
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you can't do that
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oh god no not a refrigerator
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uh and you know suddenly
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there's a lot of things you can't do
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and then when the uh when the minister
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came to you know uh uh inaugurate
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this whole project
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uh the villagers was actually protesting
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they said they didn't want fake electricity
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they want real electricity
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and you know because he was democratically voted in
00:21:38.160
uh they actually got a new power line
00:21:41.220
from the main grid
00:21:42.380
mostly powered by coal
00:21:43.560
uh in a couple weeks
00:21:44.840
uh and oh
00:21:46.020
and the prices dropped by two-thirds
00:21:48.080
uh and again you know
00:21:49.940
this is not to discourage
00:21:51.320
the fact that yes solar and wind have a space
00:21:54.000
and they are sometimes really good
00:21:55.940
you know in california
00:21:57.200
if you have little
00:21:58.880
if you have some solar
00:22:00.700
it can actually cut off the very top peak
00:22:03.080
uh usage uh around noon
00:22:05.600
when you need it for air conditioning
00:22:07.120
that's great
00:22:07.780
but don't believe that you can run an economy off of it
00:22:11.180
this is the best of the glenbeck program
00:22:17.880
jason whitlock
00:22:27.700
welcome to the program how are you
00:22:31.200
awesome thanks for having me
00:22:33.240
you bet i know that tiger woods was
00:22:35.440
uh kind of a big deal growing up
00:22:38.700
with you and your dad right
00:22:40.340
absolutely tiger is my favorite athlete of all time
00:22:44.520
me and my dad
00:22:46.440
you know just brought us closer together
00:22:48.620
talked about tiger more than any other athlete
00:22:51.360
tiger when i think of sports and just happy moments
00:22:55.360
it's it's tiger woods and magic johnson
00:22:57.820
when he was with the lakers
00:22:58.720
yeah uh tiger woods i think was that way for all of us
00:23:02.760
especially when his dad was alive
00:23:04.340
uh because of their relationship
00:23:06.660
and what they accomplished together
00:23:09.060
uh and uh you know i think his his spiral into trouble
00:23:14.900
it it appears to be i don't know
00:23:18.120
because i don't follow these guys at all
00:23:19.580
but it appears to be tied to
00:23:21.440
the death of his dad
00:23:23.380
and uh him making it kind of
00:23:25.640
on his own in an in a different way
00:23:28.080
is that accurate at all
00:23:29.640
yeah i think it's accurate
00:23:31.500
look and glenn i'm glad you started out
00:23:33.640
by letting me establish
00:23:35.100
i'm a huge tiger woods fan
00:23:38.220
right but i'm gonna be honest
00:23:40.440
you know when i look at tiger's life
00:23:44.260
i i say wow he was really super prepared
00:23:47.400
for golf
00:23:49.020
and nothing else
00:23:50.420
i'm not sure if he was super prepared for anything else
00:23:52.760
yeah
00:23:53.100
and that kind of fame and fortune too
00:23:56.220
is also uh really bad
00:23:58.600
especially if you lose the anchor of
00:24:00.880
of that's been guiding you the whole time
00:24:03.340
that steady hand
00:24:04.160
so do we know there was
00:24:06.580
there were no drugs or alcohol involved in this accident
00:24:09.480
do we know if he was asleep at the wheel
00:24:11.960
how did this happen
00:24:13.120
and what happened
00:24:14.220
i think i think we know
00:24:16.340
based on the police
00:24:17.360
that there was no alcohol involved
00:24:19.880
uh tiger recently had another back surgery
00:24:24.260
and so and we you know
00:24:27.060
it's been part of his history to
00:24:29.540
uh take painkillers
00:24:31.960
because he's had so many different surgeries
00:24:34.180
and he's he struggled with that problem
00:24:36.240
i'm not sure
00:24:38.100
if we'll ever know
00:24:40.060
what was in his system
00:24:41.960
at the time of this accident
00:24:43.220
maybe they took his blood
00:24:44.860
and we'll examine it
00:24:45.880
maybe they won't
00:24:47.140
i mean tiger's a huge brand for nike
00:24:49.520
and i'm sure
00:24:51.620
uh they're going to try to protect his privacy
00:24:54.880
as much as they can
00:24:56.500
sure and if they were prescription drugs
00:24:58.280
and he wasn't abusing them
00:24:59.720
i mean you know you take
00:25:01.600
you take some of these drugs for pain now
00:25:04.440
at night
00:25:05.080
this happened at seven o'clock in the morning
00:25:06.740
you're groggy still at seven o'clock in the morning
00:25:09.580
i mean you could easily fall back to sleep
00:25:11.580
and and not because of the drug
00:25:13.780
but because of the after effects of the drug
00:25:15.680
here's what i'll say glenn
00:25:18.360
and i'm a huge tiger woods fan
00:25:21.140
i mean tiger woods
00:25:22.420
can make me cry
00:25:24.260
uh but what what i would say is where
00:25:28.060
i would somewhat disagree with you is like
00:25:30.960
if i'm taking prescription drugs
00:25:33.900
and i'm worth
00:25:35.540
a half billion dollars or more
00:25:38.100
yeah i have a driver
00:25:39.460
yes true
00:25:40.300
i i i take that precaution of like
00:25:43.200
hey because of my injuries
00:25:44.780
because of my surgery
00:25:45.920
i take these prescription drugs
00:25:48.560
maybe it's best for me
00:25:50.940
not to drive
00:25:51.940
i i'm not worth nearly the money
00:25:55.040
that tiger woods is
00:25:56.300
but i basically gave up driving
00:25:59.460
four years ago
00:26:01.060
i take uber
00:26:02.300
yeah i went three straight years
00:26:04.660
without ever getting behind my car
00:26:06.300
i moved to nashville
00:26:08.040
drove you know here
00:26:09.620
drove my car here
00:26:10.760
and did some driving
00:26:11.960
and now i haven't driven
00:26:13.400
for three months i don't think
00:26:15.280
and and why is that
00:26:17.140
because of all the drugs you're taking
00:26:19.540
no it's literally
00:26:23.240
it started in la
00:26:24.720
just because i wanted to walk more
00:26:26.800
and i wanted
00:26:27.880
you know i had a
00:26:28.940
the drug
00:26:30.440
my drug of choice
00:26:31.600
is like potato chips
00:26:33.520
and payday candy bars
00:26:36.020
and i had a really bad habit
00:26:38.660
of eating those
00:26:40.040
while driving in a car
00:26:41.680
and so i just wanted to give all that up
00:26:44.980
and walk more
00:26:46.000
and just i i just felt like i had bad habits
00:26:48.620
driving a car
00:26:49.780
that i don't have
00:26:50.960
you know uber
00:26:51.660
they don't want you to eat or drink in there
00:26:53.520
and just
00:26:54.500
i just i just don't like
00:26:56.320
driving that much
00:26:57.800
and in like in 2002
00:26:59.900
i was i was doing radio
00:27:02.260
i was writing for the newspaper
00:27:03.700
i was doing tv
00:27:04.920
and i fell asleep
00:27:06.680
at the wheel of my car
00:27:08.340
and a friend of mine
00:27:10.000
was a passenger in the car
00:27:11.300
and he was a dad
00:27:12.340
and we were going to some press conference
00:27:15.300
and i was overworked
00:27:16.400
i was doing morning radio
00:27:17.560
and i fell asleep at the car
00:27:19.760
just very briefly
00:27:20.700
maybe five ten seconds
00:27:22.480
woke up
00:27:23.580
and you know
00:27:25.400
saved us
00:27:26.420
or you know
00:27:27.140
got control of the car
00:27:29.020
and blah blah blah
00:27:29.680
but that kind of changed
00:27:31.160
my point of view on driving
00:27:32.780
i i you know
00:27:34.760
fell out of love
00:27:35.920
with driving
00:27:36.820
i just
00:27:37.220
just not a responsibility
00:27:38.540
i i want to take
00:27:40.200
so what is
00:27:41.420
what have you heard
00:27:42.400
about the surgery
00:27:43.340
and i know they put a rod in
00:27:45.580
is is
00:27:46.500
he gonna walk again
00:27:48.260
and do you
00:27:49.560
have any idea
00:27:50.540
on the
00:27:51.020
based on what happened
00:27:52.640
uh in sports
00:27:54.580
do you come back
00:27:55.600
and play golf
00:27:56.420
i don't think
00:27:58.320
he comes back
00:27:59.320
i mean
00:27:59.880
this total speculation
00:28:01.160
on my part
00:28:01.780
i think the guys had like
00:28:03.020
five back surgeries
00:28:04.100
and was just recovering
00:28:05.580
from
00:28:05.960
one just now
00:28:07.880
so i would imagine
00:28:08.960
his back
00:28:10.420
won't
00:28:12.140
allow him to compete
00:28:13.380
at the highest level
00:28:14.320
i think that
00:28:15.200
his ankle getting crushed
00:28:17.100
and you know
00:28:18.240
having to be rebuilt
00:28:19.160
they said they put a rod
00:28:20.460
in his
00:28:20.860
leg
00:28:21.780
i can't imagine
00:28:23.320
let's say the recovery
00:28:25.180
is a year
00:28:26.100
or two
00:28:26.940
you know
00:28:28.060
tiger will be 47
00:28:29.300
at that time
00:28:30.500
47
00:28:31.580
when did that happen
00:28:33.680
yeah he's 45 now
00:28:35.520
so i just can't see him
00:28:37.080
competing at the level
00:28:39.060
that he wants to compete at
00:28:40.800
which is at the highest level
00:28:42.280
and so i i think
00:28:44.560
you know if i were guessing
00:28:46.300
you know
00:28:47.000
his career is over
00:28:48.300
that's a huge blow
00:28:50.680
yeah that that's
00:28:52.680
look even
00:28:53.600
at tiger
00:28:54.620
you know
00:28:55.520
half of his powers
00:28:56.820
he's still the most
00:28:58.320
compelling
00:28:58.760
television
00:28:59.680
yeah
00:29:00.100
maybe in sports
00:29:01.260
but certainly
00:29:01.820
in the world of golf
00:29:03.240
uh
00:29:04.300
you know
00:29:04.720
he's the only thing
00:29:06.140
that would
00:29:06.680
you know
00:29:07.100
he trumps everything
00:29:08.540
for me
00:29:08.960
football's my favorite sport
00:29:10.320
but if tiger
00:29:11.380
were in contention
00:29:12.820
at a major
00:29:13.540
or
00:29:13.920
hell maybe
00:29:14.620
just any golf tournament
00:29:15.760
i'd watch tiger
00:29:17.140
over football
00:29:18.000
uh
00:29:19.180
and i think a lot of people
00:29:20.320
were that way
00:29:20.860
because we thought
00:29:21.260
we were witnessing
00:29:21.940
history
00:29:22.600
and even with tiger's
00:29:24.620
personal problems
00:29:25.800
i think most people
00:29:27.060
just kind of like tiger
00:29:28.420
yeah
00:29:28.920
uh
00:29:29.480
and and just
00:29:30.480
he's hard not to like
00:29:31.900
i mean i went through
00:29:33.060
a period where
00:29:33.700
i mean again
00:29:34.240
i don't follow this stuff
00:29:35.160
but you know
00:29:35.760
the the golf club
00:29:37.300
and the car
00:29:37.780
and the wife
00:29:38.380
was a really
00:29:39.100
horrible scene
00:29:39.960
um
00:29:40.680
but it's hard
00:29:41.860
not to like him
00:29:42.840
yeah i think that
00:29:45.040
again i
00:29:46.500
good looking guy
00:29:47.880
i think people can
00:29:49.940
relate to his
00:29:51.980
he was competing
00:29:53.780
in a sport
00:29:54.480
where no one
00:29:55.220
that looked like him
00:29:56.080
had ever had
00:29:56.940
that kind of success
00:29:58.180
and i think
00:29:59.680
everybody in america
00:30:01.620
love what tiger's
00:30:04.100
success in golf
00:30:05.160
represented
00:30:06.060
and said about america
00:30:07.720
and
00:30:08.860
you know
00:30:09.860
he didn't take
00:30:10.740
big huge
00:30:11.700
political positions
00:30:13.000
and so everybody
00:30:14.340
could kind of
00:30:15.000
wrap their arms
00:30:15.680
around tiger woods
00:30:16.940
and we did
00:30:18.400
and you know
00:30:19.260
that's
00:30:19.940
i have so many
00:30:21.560
maybe you did
00:30:22.380
maybe you did
00:30:23.300
because you're
00:30:23.760
you're black
00:30:24.460
but all the white
00:30:25.400
people in america
00:30:26.320
of course are racist
00:30:27.360
and uh
00:30:28.460
we secretly
00:30:29.320
hated him
00:30:30.320
and somehow
00:30:32.720
all of you
00:30:33.600
that hated tiger
00:30:34.600
never went to
00:30:35.680
the golf course
00:30:36.420
that he was
00:30:36.860
playing at
00:30:37.460
because it would
00:30:38.440
be a sea
00:30:39.400
of white humanity
00:30:40.820
yeah
00:30:41.360
uh cheering
00:30:42.900
this guy on
00:30:43.940
and celebrating
00:30:44.640
every moment
00:30:45.420
and
00:30:46.180
so you know
00:30:47.420
let me
00:30:48.360
let me ask you
00:30:49.440
one more question
00:30:49.980
on this
00:30:50.420
do you know
00:30:51.880
enough about
00:30:52.660
tiger woods
00:30:53.820
uh
00:30:54.980
to know
00:30:55.780
how a guy
00:30:56.880
who was
00:30:57.800
built from
00:30:59.020
the beginning
00:30:59.780
of his childhood
00:31:00.960
to compete
00:31:02.400
and to play
00:31:03.420
golf
00:31:03.940
and to
00:31:04.840
and then
00:31:05.800
become
00:31:06.580
such an icon
00:31:08.400
at 47
00:31:10.340
years old
00:31:11.280
45 years old
00:31:12.180
just to kind of
00:31:13.240
not be able
00:31:14.540
to do that
00:31:15.240
anymore
00:31:15.600
not command
00:31:16.380
that spotlight
00:31:17.320
for his
00:31:18.140
athletic
00:31:19.120
abilities
00:31:20.420
how is that
00:31:21.660
going to affect
00:31:22.320
him mentally
00:31:23.080
do you have
00:31:23.540
any idea
00:31:24.180
i think he's
00:31:25.820
been prepared
00:31:27.480
for that
00:31:28.200
over the last
00:31:29.060
few years
00:31:29.700
because he's
00:31:30.460
had so many
00:31:31.140
injuries
00:31:31.640
and missed
00:31:32.500
large chunks
00:31:33.920
of time
00:31:34.580
a year off
00:31:35.560
year and a half
00:31:36.640
off
00:31:37.020
for this injury
00:31:38.040
or that injury
00:31:38.760
i think that
00:31:40.040
tiger has
00:31:41.040
authentically
00:31:42.560
transitioned
00:31:43.380
into being
00:31:45.000
really into
00:31:45.760
his kids
00:31:46.580
and i think
00:31:48.540
you would think
00:31:49.860
he's sitting
00:31:50.400
in the hospital
00:31:51.020
bed like
00:31:51.700
oh my god
00:31:52.520
if i can just
00:31:53.640
walk again
00:31:54.300
and play with
00:31:54.860
my kids
00:31:55.540
and help my
00:31:56.120
son with his
00:31:56.940
golf game
00:31:57.560
and my daughter
00:31:58.180
with her golf
00:31:58.960
game
00:31:59.240
that will be
00:32:00.860
fulfilling
00:32:01.420
enough for
00:32:03.120
tiger
00:32:03.520
i want to add
00:32:04.700
one thing
00:32:05.580
glenn before
00:32:06.280
we transition
00:32:07.100
to something
00:32:07.520
else but
00:32:08.020
the other
00:32:09.040
thought i've
00:32:09.580
had about
00:32:10.060
tiger and
00:32:10.940
this just
00:32:11.820
the way
00:32:12.440
the last
00:32:13.040
10 years
00:32:13.460
of his
00:32:13.700
life has
00:32:14.100
gone
00:32:14.360
it's kind
00:32:15.360
of starting
00:32:15.700
to remind
00:32:16.180
me of
00:32:16.540
like michael
00:32:17.100
jackson
00:32:17.560
michael jackson
00:32:18.280
was a big
00:32:19.020
part of my
00:32:19.800
childhood
00:32:20.340
and memories
00:32:21.220
and i was
00:32:21.620
just big
00:32:22.340
michael jackson
00:32:23.140
jackson 5 fan
00:32:24.220
and then he
00:32:25.420
got involved
00:32:26.200
in controversies
00:32:27.700
and identity
00:32:29.900
issues and
00:32:31.200
skin you know
00:32:32.440
all of that
00:32:34.160
children
00:32:34.660
yeah
00:32:35.640
and i just
00:32:36.900
it's like
00:32:38.020
my memories
00:32:39.100
of michael
00:32:39.760
are blurred
00:32:40.440
i remember him
00:32:41.480
as much for
00:32:42.360
the tragedies
00:32:43.260
and controversies
00:32:44.360
as i do
00:32:45.500
for his
00:32:45.960
singing career
00:32:46.880
and and i
00:32:48.100
just think
00:32:49.440
michael's
00:32:50.380
weirdness or
00:32:51.300
whatever it
00:32:52.040
was that was
00:32:52.580
going on with
00:32:53.100
michael i
00:32:54.500
just he was
00:32:55.140
a prodigy
00:32:55.920
like tiger
00:32:57.400
whose dad
00:32:58.400
drove him
00:32:59.480
correct
00:32:59.900
whose dad
00:33:00.700
you know
00:33:01.460
made him
00:33:02.560
music music
00:33:03.440
and you're
00:33:03.960
going to be
00:33:04.260
and and
00:33:05.500
i just it
00:33:06.860
makes me
00:33:07.260
like wow
00:33:08.180
as much as
00:33:09.140
i love tiger
00:33:10.740
and what
00:33:11.520
he was
00:33:11.780
accomplished
00:33:12.200
i don't
00:33:12.800
think i
00:33:13.100
would want
00:33:13.480
his life
00:33:14.100
and as
00:33:14.640
much as
00:33:15.000
i love
00:33:15.360
michael jackson's
00:33:16.260
music i
00:33:16.780
certainly wouldn't
00:33:17.380
want his
00:33:17.940
life
00:33:18.300
yeah i
00:33:19.120
wouldn't want
00:33:19.560
to be a
00:33:19.940
prodigy
00:33:21.080
well you get
00:33:21.640
all the jesus
00:33:22.220
juice you want
00:33:22.940
if you were
00:33:23.440
michael jackson
00:33:24.040
but i you know
00:33:24.940
what i think
00:33:25.540
you're exactly
00:33:26.140
right and i
00:33:27.140
think that's
00:33:27.620
why people
00:33:28.200
are paid
00:33:29.160
so much
00:33:30.740
money in
00:33:31.580
the end
00:33:32.160
is you
00:33:33.260
give up
00:33:34.100
an awful
00:33:35.120
lot i mean
00:33:35.940
it's one
00:33:36.400
thing to
00:33:36.940
be a
00:33:37.460
star
00:33:37.740
especially
00:33:38.180
at their
00:33:38.800
level
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but if
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you're at
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their level
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from childhood
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you you do
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not have a
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normal life
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at all
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and uh
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you kind of
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demanded in a
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you know pound
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of flesh or
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you know a
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pound of gold
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uh but it
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doesn't buy back
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all the things
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that you lost
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na na na na
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