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00:00:00.000 hey welcome to tuesday got a great great show for you today um we we started with michelle

00:00:08.360 obama and uh and covering the convention it is a wild ride you don't want to miss

00:00:16.280 we had bjorn lomberg on with us uh the skeptical environmentalist who was fantastic if everybody

00:00:23.240 on the global warming scam was just saying the same things he was it wouldn't feel like a scam

00:00:31.060 and i'd be a part of it and i think everybody would be a part of it really really logical and uh he's

00:00:37.440 got a new book out about stop saying we're all going to be dead in 10 years because it's not

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00:01:22.900 oh my gosh when the when they started with the do we have the national anthem from the dnc last night

00:01:32.940 oh my when this hit i thought i was gonna lose

00:01:38.780 my mind

00:01:42.100 powerful oh look and nobody's kneeling nobody's that's fantastic

00:01:49.620 okay stop i can't take it so you knew you were in for a very long night of agony

00:01:58.440 a very long night of programming honestly sesame street has a higher standard sesame for education 1.00

00:02:08.400 sesame street has a higher standard this thing was jam-packed with information for absolute morons 1.00

00:02:17.900 and idiots you start with the national anthem an educated person says how can you start with the 1.00

00:02:24.720 national anthem because everybody's taking a knee you guys aren't defending the national anthem you 1.00

00:02:29.760 guys are saying that the national anthem is racist so how are you doing that without any self-awareness 0.99

00:02:35.860 they're totally self-aware they are programming to morons they don't think you're aware of it 0.99

00:02:43.700 they don't think you know anything that's going on and the people that will buy this don't 0.98

00:02:49.860 so you have to watch it in a different way like michelle obama's speech i'm going to try to get

00:02:56.380 through i just have i think 10 pieces of her audio to get through i don't think i can do it um

00:03:02.860 when you listen to michelle obama first of all the worst thing anyone can do on the right is tear

00:03:10.020 michelle obama apart as a person or anything else because she is so light that's different than

00:03:19.040 likable you don't have to like her you don't even have to understand how other people like her

00:03:24.520 but you need to understand how liked she is

00:03:28.920 we don't feel this way because i'm sure she's a wonderful person if you agreed with her

00:03:37.220 so i don't feel this way because i know so much about her i know that she doesn't love america she said

00:03:45.140 the first time she was ever proud of her nation was when barack obama was elected the first time

00:03:52.860 she was proud of her nation we have heard too many off-camera comments from her i know who she hung

00:04:00.000 out with i know her marxist friends i know who she went to church with for 20 some years there's no way

00:04:07.200 you can have the kind of love and appreciation for this country that maybe you have now maybe she

00:04:13.180 appreciates it in a whole different way like it's a great place to start all over again maybe

00:04:20.860 but we see her differently because we've been educated we've paid attention so let's listen

00:04:29.840 to her speech here's cut one good evening everyone it's a hard time and everyone's feeling it in

00:04:38.380 different ways i don't like it so far and i know a lot of folks are reluctant to tune into a political

00:04:43.380 convention right now or to politics in general stop believe me i get why do you hate it so far

00:04:49.940 i just don't get it i know everyone thinks she's amazing and she's this incredible person and

00:05:01.140 she's the most beautiful woman that's ever walked the face of the earth she's an average person she's 0.98

00:05:06.580 like there's nothing wrong with being average looking but that's just what she is she's an

00:05:11.480 average looking person who does who so who again like i i watch her speeches and i feel like i'm in

00:05:19.160 another universe i watch every blue check on twitter say how it was the most amazing thing they've ever

00:05:24.520 seen and i it's i i look at it and i'm like that was that looked like the wife of a politician

00:05:31.540 trying really hard to read a a speech who was written by a pretty good speech writer right

00:05:39.100 and she's overacting it and overdoing it and she's not really great at this but like hey let's

00:05:45.620 nice work out separating her from who she is and and what we know about her and and her politics like 1.00

00:05:52.560 i just don't see her as this amazing transformative person she has everyone else does okay she has a

00:05:58.360 way now remember talking two different things the way you see it and the way the half of the

00:06:03.380 country sees her they have not been exposed nor have they listened to all of the things that make

00:06:10.240 you go she she is not telling the truth here she's not telling the truth um that's prop part of it so

00:06:17.080 it's part of it but she hasn't said anything yet all she said was you probably don't want to tune

00:06:22.360 into a convention i was like oh she also says all of the things now this is a speech writer saying all

00:06:29.940 of the things that everybody feels and she has a way she is good at one thing she can look into the

00:06:37.740 camera and connect with an individual maybe not you but she can connect and that's a very rare skill

00:06:46.000 and i do think she has that she seems overacting to me but if you're not predisposed to think

00:06:55.060 she's a fraud you may not feel that from her all right continue i get that but i am here tonight

00:07:05.680 because i love this country with all my heart and it pains me to see so many people hurting

00:07:12.380 i've met so many of you i've heard your stories and through you every line i have seen this country's

00:07:21.340 promise and thanks to so many who came before me thanks to their toil and sweat and blood

00:07:28.640 i've been able to live that promise myself that's the story of america wow all those folks who

00:07:38.020 sacrificed and overcame so much in their own times because they wanted something more something better

00:07:45.580 for their kids there's a lot of beauty in that story there's a lot of pain in it too a lot of struggle

00:07:54.160 and injustice and work left to do okay and i have to tell you i i what what what you see this is the

00:08:06.060 problem they say things they don't mean because if you meant that we wouldn't have a problem yes there's

00:08:16.080 a lot of pain and let's work through that pain but that's not what's being said what's being said

00:08:23.120 there is no beauty in the people that struggled in their own time as she said in their own time

00:08:32.540 to make life better for their children they did in their own time their times were different so they

00:08:40.460 didn't meet today's standards but they moved the flag forward and now it's our job to move the flag

00:08:47.180 forward even more but that's not what the left is saying that's not what the democratic party stands for

00:08:54.380 anymore they call for the destruction of america a rewriting of our history a washing us of everyone

00:09:04.180 in their time that was trying to do the right thing for their children that's a real problem now let's go

00:09:13.840 to sought to listen to this tell me who she's describing i am one of a handful of people living

00:09:21.120 today who have seen firsthand the immense weight and awesome power of the presidency and let me once

00:09:30.160 again tell you this the job is hard it requires clear-headed judgment yes a mastery of complex and

00:09:40.380 competing issues yes a devotion to facts and history history a moral compass and an ability

00:09:47.040 to listen all right and an abiding belief that each of the 330 million lives in this country okay has

00:09:58.380 meaning and worth okay all right okay stop stop now remember she's giving the speech for joe biden so

00:10:09.100 let me just go through this she's seen it firsthand immense weight and awesome power of the presidency

00:10:13.540 she's seen it can we say real quick this country's not supposed to have an awesomely

00:10:17.540 powerful president that's not how it's supposed to work yes so but she's seen that yeah she has seen

00:10:23.000 that let me once again tell you this the job is hard agree sure yes uh it requires clear-headed

00:10:29.660 judgment does joe biden have clear-headed judgment how could anyone say that with a straight face

00:10:37.500 can't how can't a mastery of complex and competing issues he can't even get to multiple syllable words

00:10:46.140 at this point he might have five years ago 10 years ago certainly did when he was with with uh barack

00:10:54.340 obama at the beginning certainly did now no a devotion of facts and history no one on the left has that

00:11:04.280 biden didn't even have that back in when he was going with obama i remember the uh what was it fdr

00:11:08.380 and the television right i mean he just didn't have it and if i may a devotion of facts and history

00:11:13.260 let me go back to michelle obama in 2008 and barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices

00:11:20.900 we're going to have to change our conversation we're going to have to change our traditions our

00:11:26.760 history we're going to have to move into a different place so we're going to have to change our

00:11:31.420 history so a devotion of facts and history does she really mean that and does joe biden have that

00:11:38.560 a moral compass a guy whose son has built with his dad millions of dollars through through gun running

00:11:50.980 drug lord you know mafioso style people in ukraine and gotten deeply in bed with a communist chinese 0.99

00:12:00.420 party and made millions of dollars is that a moral compass that you think he has i'm not saying let's

00:12:07.940 not we don't have to compare we could say donald trump just assume i haven't seen it but just assume 0.94

00:12:12.700 oh his kids are dirty as hell too well a haven't seen that evidence um but b we're talking about 0.75

00:12:21.520 michelle obama saying we need a moral compass does joe biden have that moral compass oh and an ability 0.98

00:12:28.880 to listen the only reason why he's listening is because he can't speak anymore i mean who is she

00:12:35.720 describing here i mean it's almost as if she's just she's making the case that they should not

00:12:41.360 nominate joe biden right it's almost like she's saying like you know what at least you give the

00:12:45.420 job to me or kamala or somebody else you know it's almost like she says look you know me and i i've seen it

00:12:52.340 job's hard we're clear-headed judgment mastery of complex and competing issues devotion of facts

00:12:57.220 and history a moral compass and an ability to listen that's why we picked kamala to be on the

00:13:03.360 ticket um because she's got that joe has lost it a long time ago but he's not really going to be

00:13:10.040 president you can with a straight face make that statement about joe biden

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00:14:21.340 this is the glenbeck program joined now by steven crowder blaze tv host louder with crowder did you

00:14:31.400 watch the uh did did you watch the convention last night steven steven no we'll be live streaming

00:14:40.820 thursday because that's you know when biden and kamala harris will be there but uh we plan on live

00:14:45.480 streaming every night and thank god we didn't because nothing happened other than uh michelle

00:14:49.700 obama saying that donald trump is not good so my gosh it was bad it was bad how they opened with

00:14:54.520 the star spangled banner is beyond me uh but uh steven first of all congratulations on uh getting

00:15:00.940 re-monetized on youtube let's just say next time we go out for dinner you're picking up the check

00:15:07.660 uh but uh i can pick up a portion of the hors d'oeuvres no no oysters okay let's just you know

00:15:15.360 like like some mozzarella sticks yeah i'll make sure it's nice and i actually wouldn't do that to you

00:15:19.480 because i don't think it's going to last long how first of all you have a great attorney um how did

00:15:25.780 this happen and how long do you think it's going to last well to answer the second part your guess

00:15:30.340 is as good as mine probably a week um but uh this has been going on for 14 months for 14 months it's

00:15:36.440 been going on with the vox apocalypse people need to understand that youtube changed their rules

00:15:40.560 because we didn't violate any guidelines that was those were the words uttered by the youtube ceo

00:15:45.860 susan woodjitzky herself so then they changed it and created new guidelines for advertising and then

00:15:50.660 new community guidelines where you can't really insult people because we listen we understand

00:15:56.100 that it's youtube's playground and we play by the rules and then they've changed the rules and then

00:16:00.180 there were some things behind the scenes where they tried to do uh a little more massaging and

00:16:03.900 tweaking of the rules with which i was no longer comfortable and uh now here we are i sign in and it's a

00:16:09.740 big re-monetized symbol but the weird thing is you know youtube let us know that we would be

00:16:13.000 re-monetized last thursday and everyone knows us at the blaze because we said hey this is going to

00:16:17.080 happen don't let anyone know we're going to announce it thursday youtube requested that it's

00:16:21.420 just them and us we're the only ones who know and lo and behold two days before that it gets leaked to

00:16:26.280 the verge owned by vox and uh the little buddies at matchable so i have no idea how that got out

00:16:31.800 wow but um you know it's uh well it wasn't uh wasn't anybody on uh on your your staff or our staff

00:16:40.520 that uh leaked that to vox gee i wonder how that happened i thought you have ezra klein on speed

00:16:45.340 diet that's what i was uh let me you did an amazing interview uh with david dorn uh his wife david dorn

00:16:56.480 is the uh the former police captain in st louis that was was guarding and and helping out at a pawn shop

00:17:07.060 and somebody came in to steal a t-shirt and killed him over that um really a hair raising and gut

00:17:15.040 wrenching uh scene wasn't really didn't didn't make uh a difference really into the mainstream media

00:17:22.380 but anybody who really watched it was touched by this first of all how did you how did you get the

00:17:29.240 interview with uh with his wife well you know i can't that's credit to my dad he's the booker for our

00:17:35.180 show and that really happened because everyone else was too afraid to book the show so thanks dad so

00:17:39.180 he's gotten a lot of these interviews you know steven williford after the sutherland springs shooter

00:17:42.480 yeah um i can't take credit for it really we've been blessed with that and uh to brief people in

00:17:47.720 the story yeah we do have this shirt it's the david dorn shirt you can go to lottowithcrowdershop.com

00:17:51.680 100 of the profits are going to go directly to his family and his wife excellent um it was over 30

00:17:57.620 years that he was with the st louis police department but i think the story is more important because

00:18:01.080 he was off duty and he came in to help a friend to answer a call in distress a pawn shop that was

00:18:07.280 being looted and he was shot he was a black man black police officer who served a black community

00:18:11.900 for a very long time uh served it well you can't really find any dirt on this guy which in 2020 is

00:18:17.080 in it's almost impossible and believe me we really tried to to search to see if there are any skeletons

00:18:21.540 in in this closet um no there was nothing there that we found thus far you know no one's perfect

00:18:26.160 and uh he was shot over a vizio by another black gentleman uh in that community and this is

00:18:31.680 someone the reason i think it's an important story is not just because it's a black police officer and

00:18:35.480 these people have been left out in the cold despite the fact that uh there are more minorities in the 0.79

00:18:39.280 police force than in the general population at large and that's because they see it as a way to

00:18:43.300 serve their community we also see over 80 percent of black americans who want at least as much police

00:18:47.760 presence if not more so black lives matter doesn't speak for them they just have a megaphone with the 0.94

00:18:52.360 media but this is a man who not only is an example for the black community but anyone any young men i

00:18:58.340 mean if we want to talk about heroes a guy who served his community for 30 plus years was answering

00:19:04.200 a call off duty and was shot dead while protecting his neighborhood that is a hero and you know why

00:19:10.560 because no one would have ever known if he never responded to that call that wasn't a police call

00:19:14.400 there was no record of it no one would have cared no one would have judged him for staying home

00:19:18.640 in his comfortable bed sheets with a soft pillow and instead he was going out doing the right thing

00:19:23.700 when no one was watching no one cared and unfortunately no one cared after he died in the

00:19:29.860 media and so we've really tried to take it upon ourselves to make sure that his story gets told and

00:19:34.100 you know you know glenn i i will say this i've watched you quite a bit uh in the past uh and and

00:19:38.940 present you've had a lot of big interviews and i always struggle with these because i never want to be

00:19:43.600 you know i never want to exploit somebody yes but i also want to ask the questions that i think

00:19:48.440 everyone would like to have answered i don't want to be barbara walters you know asking what kind of

00:19:52.560 tree would they would be or oprah getting them to cry yeah um so it was it's always tough for me and

00:19:57.460 i hope i struck that balance because i really do admire uh both uh uh the late officer doran and his

00:20:04.120 wife who by the way is also a police officer they were married police officers and they started programs

00:20:08.340 to help uh youth in their community and even help them enroll in the police force so when people talk

00:20:13.600 about reforming the police when people talk about making it better when people talk about

00:20:16.820 tangible solutions right solutions that have observable metrics these people dedicated their

00:20:23.180 life to it were shot dead for it and no one tells their story so that's a shame let me play a couple

00:20:29.820 of clips um here uh here she is this is sergeant andorn um talking about why her husband's death wasn't

00:20:38.480 covered in the media listen why do you think it is that uh this story with your husband uh has

00:20:44.820 received comparatively so little media coverage and we've done everything that we can but we're

00:20:49.660 obviously only one show but the big abc nbc cbs almost nothing the easiest answer is it doesn't

00:20:57.060 fit their narrative it doesn't fit the narrative of um you know a policeman killing a black man it

00:21:06.760 doesn't you know it's a black on black crime um we have those every day in st louis and i hate to 0.99

00:21:11.200 say that it's very sad that's one component that we need to fix with this peace march and we need

00:21:16.100 to address you know all lives are precious right every life out there is precious um and he just

00:21:23.380 didn't fit the narrative yeah uh then uh cut to please he went out fighting you know the good fight

00:21:34.440 helping people um i believe everything happens for a reason and um you know he's gonna speak

00:21:43.820 through me and i'm i'm hoping the reason is to help heal the city to realize hey he didn't have to die

00:21:48.620 you know the young man didn't have to pull that trigger you know there's alternatives there was no

00:21:53.900 reason to pull the trigger and take david's life um yeah david you know david went out honorably

00:22:01.940 you know fighting so i can't um i can't ask for anything more i don't i wouldn't have

00:22:07.760 wanted it to happen that way i'd like to grow old with him right but um if he had to die this

00:22:14.860 oh you know like this then yes yeah you know he went out of here and i'm just hoping i can bring

00:22:20.280 meaning to it she uh was very composed up until um that when she started talking about growing old

00:22:28.980 with him um you can tell how much um she she loved him do you think that there is a uh problem

00:22:37.340 and racism in the media itself the fact that she is white and he is black do you think that played a

00:22:44.920 role in this not being covered steven you know i don't even know if they got that far along the

00:22:51.540 trail uh i'm just like with the hydroxychloroquine lady who clearly well who i believe probably knocked 0.95

00:22:57.740 off her husband they didn't do any research and find out that she was an anti-trump activist and

00:23:01.840 donor to the dnc i think this was a story that didn't interest them from the get-go just like last uh

00:23:06.740 last night or yesterday when a man was beaten within an inch of his life uh dragged out of his truck

00:23:11.340 by antifa and black lives matter activists i just don't think that it suits their narrative

00:23:15.660 and and i know that that's a phrase that's used a lot doesn't suit their narrative but i don't think

00:23:21.140 it's ever been on more crystal clear display for everyone to see because if we're talking about

00:23:25.460 black lives that matter and all black lives do matter and all lives matter but let's say all

00:23:30.460 black lives matter so that you know we're not accused of of burning crosses and having a white

00:23:33.940 hood if you say all lives matter but all black lives certainly matter wouldn't it stand to reason 1.00

00:23:38.520 to look at the number one cause of death number one cause of death for all black males under age

00:23:43.640 44 it's it's homicide it's not even close death from police officers doesn't even crack the top of

00:23:48.580 the list do you know that a black police officer any police officer is actually 18 times more likely

00:23:53.020 to be shot by a black man a young black man than he is to shoot them so if we're talking about 0.87

00:23:58.160 hey all black lives matter and we want to help the black community which is what david dorn and his wife 0.99

00:24:03.900 dedicated their entire lives to serve it wasn't a hashtag they were doing this when no one was

00:24:09.580 watching before hashtags were a thing we should be talking about how to curb homicide with young

00:24:16.400 black males in the community and i want to be clear i'm not like a nick cannon saying that homicide

00:24:20.780 is because of melanin in the skin you know he thinks that white folks don't have souls because it's

00:24:24.680 melanin no i think we have a spiritual and a culturally broken problem the united states i think it's across

00:24:30.900 all colors but i think particularly in the black community and david dorn obviously uh knew this

00:24:36.020 because he served the youth they are raised in fatherless households and not only that but in

00:24:40.560 communities where there aren't other dads and so you have record numbers of black lives being taken by

00:24:48.160 other young black males so steven i've only got 90 seconds left um i've seen so many of your change

00:24:56.320 my minds recently um and i i i wanted to get a sense from you when it comes to black lives matter

00:25:03.120 when it comes to marxism and everything else are you seeing a turn at all even a small turn or is

00:25:11.460 is everyone just locked into that that you know black lives matter inc is good uh here's the thing

00:25:21.560 people hear the term black lives matter think it's good right if you pull people just like don't kick 1.00

00:25:25.540 puppies okay that's good when you actually read the demands and you read the history and the

00:25:29.800 charter from black lives matter and their founders nearly everyone unilaterally disagrees with them

00:25:34.500 most of all black americans so black lives matter the idea we're all on board with black lives matter

00:25:41.020 the organization just like antifa is a domestic terror organization 600 million dollars in property

00:25:46.220 damage 14 000 arrests 900 officer casualties over 20 people dead if you don't call that a riot i don't

00:25:51.880 know what is steven crowder thank you so much um by the way it become a mug club uh member just if

00:25:58.860 you're not a blaze tv subscriber go to blaze tv.com slash crowder and uh join today you'll get interviews

00:26:06.060 like uh steven uh just did with david doran's wife that aren't available anyplace else blaze tv.com slash

00:26:12.820 crowder join now and make sure that you get uh one of the t-shirts like he said 100 percent of the

00:26:20.340 um of the uh profits on that will go uh to his his wife and family thank you so much steven

00:26:27.320 appreciate it thank you glenn god bless god bless him man we have such a great group of people on our

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00:26:47.440 bjorn lomberg author of false alarm president of the copenhagen consensus center visiting fellow from

00:26:56.200 the hoover institution i believe he was part of our first uh climate special that we did at cnn

00:27:04.520 back when cnn actually would have opposing views on kind of uh it took everything in them to let us

00:27:11.960 do that special uh but i am somebody who i i own property uh out west in the mountains i believe in

00:27:20.680 the environment i love trees i love animals and i want to keep our our water and our air clean and

00:27:28.720 i don't know of anybody who doesn't care about that i'm sure they exist but i don't know anybody

00:27:35.260 who doesn't care about that the problem seems to be with taking the climate change attitude and

00:27:43.020 then applying it into an emergency panic everybody's gonna die quickly and so we have to do this well what

00:27:51.860 should we do beyond lomberg is uh joining us now bjorn how are you sir hey clint i'm good how are you

00:27:58.840 i'm very good so we wanted to um uh we wanted to talk to you about a couple of things the alarmism but

00:28:05.520 first who who is this book targeted to so look i talk to a lot of people and very many people are

00:28:15.460 really really worried about global warming and especially their kids are worried about global warming

00:28:20.620 you know lots of kids are saying why should i study if there's no future for me because and that

00:28:26.000 certainly is what we're being told uh a new survey showed that almost half of the entire global

00:28:32.320 population now believes that uh global warming will lead to the extinction of the human race

00:28:38.300 and that is simply crazy look global warming is a real problem it's something we should fix but we

00:28:45.820 need to get a sense of proportion the u.n climate panel tells us that by the 2070s the impact of

00:28:53.120 global warming will be equivalent to somewhere between 0.2 and 2 percent reduction in your average

00:28:58.840 income remember by then the u.n expect that we'll be two and a half times richer so instead of being

00:29:05.460 two and a half times richer we'll be slightly less than two and a half times richer by 2070 that's a

00:29:11.200 problem that's not the end of the world so this book is really to all the people who are worried and

00:29:16.680 of course all the people they know who are worried and telling look it's a problem not the end of the

00:29:22.400 world so you're kind of in the category of michael schellenberger that uh except you're probably more

00:29:28.860 in line with the ipcc you take those reports as as gospel and say look we're just going to accept

00:29:35.600 this as fact but then you look for the things that we we can do that will actually make a difference

00:29:43.040 um would you put yourself kind of in michael schellenberger's kind of place oh sure sure and

00:29:50.400 i think there's a lot of people in that camp because honestly what that means is you take what

00:29:56.160 the science is telling us there is a problem but then you also insist we need to look at the economics

00:30:02.400 of climate change and actually take the best science there and most people don't remember i

00:30:09.820 take my starting point in the guy uh who actually got the only nobel prize in climate economics uh

00:30:16.520 william nordhaus from yale university and he says as do almost everyone in climate economics that there

00:30:23.740 is a real problem with climate change so probably in the order of three to four percent gdp by the end of

00:30:30.200 the century that means if you can fix a substantial part for a low cost that's a good idea but it's

00:30:37.260 crazy to try to fix a three to four percent problem by incurring policies that will cost 15 to 30 percent

00:30:46.840 of your gdp and and that's what you're i mean you did an article in usa today climate change democratic

00:30:52.660 alarmism leads to failing policies can you take us through that yeah so look the democrats have

00:31:00.000 a good intention they're pointing out look there's a real problem but then they go on to say and and

00:31:06.360 much to you know as you as you pointed out they believe that this is going to lead to the end of

00:31:11.220 the world in you know 10 years and that's just not the case if it was the case if this was a you know

00:31:17.680 a meteor hurtling towards earth the only thing you should be doing would be to worry about global

00:31:23.440 worrying you know you just throw everything in the kitchen sink correct send up bruce willis and

00:31:28.380 everybody else and you know fix that meteor right but the reality is this is a minor problem it's not

00:31:35.400 a zero problem it's a three to four percent problem over the next 80 years and so the risk and what

00:31:41.840 they're clearly suggesting is you know we should have no new gasoline cars by 2035 and fossil fuels

00:31:48.620 in power sector in 2040 basically get the u.s to net zero so emit no new co2 in 2050 that is going to

00:31:59.180 be phenomenally expensive remember we only have one estimate that actually shows how costly that will

00:32:05.580 be so lots of nations have promised only one nation was brave enough to actually ask so how much is that

00:32:12.420 going to cost that was new zealand so you know left-wing new zealand actually asked how much is

00:32:17.400 going to cost them their preeminent estimate was this is going to cost us at least 16 percent of our

00:32:25.700 jdp more likely around 30 percent oh my gosh that for the u.s is equivalent to paying five to ten

00:32:34.440 trillion dollars every year remember that's more than what the entire national uh federal budget is

00:32:42.360 right now every year it's twice that five trillion is twice the revenues of the united states of america

00:32:50.060 so you tax it's twice the revenues just for that yeah and and remember it would not fix global warming

00:32:58.280 it would slightly reduce the impact because most of the problem from global warming does not actually

00:33:04.920 come from rich countries because we've already you know sort of peaked and we're increasingly going

00:33:09.480 towards just producing services which emits very little co2 but most of the rest of the world so china 1.00

00:33:15.920 india africa latin america still want to get rich they want to get to where we are today and they will

00:33:22.580 mostly be able to do that by using much more cheap and readily available energy and try and telling them

00:33:29.420 i'm sorry you can't do what we did unbelievable right you'll just have to stay poor yeah it's it's

00:33:35.420 it's absolutely irresponsible um but you're not talking about when when you talk to global warming people

00:33:41.280 um the the the zealots you can't get them to talk about nuclear energy the cleanest and the safest

00:33:48.700 energy out there you can't get them to talk about that um you can't talk to them about let's help africa

00:33:56.340 um grow to be a richer and you know an industrial nation and go through the industrial revolution but

00:34:04.120 in a clean way we can help them get into the 21st century by giving them power nobody wants to nobody

00:34:13.020 wants to help them um get richer and live our kind of lifestyle they're trying to just bring everybody

00:34:19.500 down to their lifestyle instead of bringing them up to our lifestyle there's certainly a lot of truth

00:34:26.800 to that i actually find that when you confront most people with this especially well-meaning uh sort of

00:34:33.120 left-leaning people they also want that and so you expose in some way a very clear uh twist in their

00:34:41.240 minds between on the one side they want to help africa and the world's poor but they also want

00:34:46.780 to fix global warming and of course what ends up is very often they throw the africans under the bus 1.00

00:34:52.100 because they care too much about climate change again if you think it's because it's the end of

00:34:57.700 the world that makes sense but if you actually realize oh wait this is a problem like many others we

00:35:04.200 need to fix you need to get much smarter on this issue and that's of course one of the reasons also

00:35:10.540 why i wrote this book that there are actually really smart ways to fix climate just not the

00:35:17.220 typical ways that we use right now talking to bjorn lomborg the book is false alarm it's a great one uh

00:35:23.720 bjorn take us through some of this alarmism one example you talk about in the book and i've heard

00:35:28.480 it from a million places is that it's 170 million people are going to be displaced by climate change

00:35:35.120 uh coming up fairly soon and that's what the science says you go through that claim and kind

00:35:40.300 of show what it actually is trying the story is trying to tell is a totally different perception

00:35:45.260 can you walk us through that one yeah i mean so look if you just look at rising uh temperatures

00:35:51.800 will mean rising sea levels that's very simple and that's very true rising sea levels all other

00:35:57.300 things equal will mean that more people will get inundated and eventually have to move and of

00:36:02.120 course the more alarmist uh will tell us oh my god they're all going to drown uh but the reality

00:36:07.420 is of course we actually adapt all of these estimates so one very very uh highly quoted estimate

00:36:15.120 said 187 million people are going to get flooded or are going to have to move by the end of the

00:36:20.520 century because of global warming that assumes no one does anything so it assumes that everybody sit

00:36:26.060 on the beach and watch as the waves start lapping up over their ankles and knees and apparently they

00:36:32.620 have to move or they drown but of course in reality over the next 80 years we will adapt we will build

00:36:39.280 better sea defenses we'll build more dikes we'll build more uh nourished beaches and all these

00:36:45.260 different technologies that we've known since you know five or six thousand years ago we know how to do

00:36:50.740 this and that's why all the studies and this particular study that generated headlines across

00:36:56.460 all of the u.s and washington post and around the world it tells you that if you do nothing you're

00:37:02.780 going to see 187 million people being displaced but if you do realistic assessments of what people

00:37:09.300 will do you will see 305 000 people having to move remember that's half the number of people

00:37:16.360 that move out of california every year of course we can handle that globally over the next 80 years

00:37:22.520 so you're being told a story that's 600 times more alarming and that's why you get really scared

00:37:28.660 and if this was just one single example maybe it wouldn't matter all that much but unfortunately

00:37:34.520 this is almost entirely how we're seeing climate change reported we're telling you stories that are

00:37:41.040 only true under very specific and very unrealistic assumptions like you don't do anything that you

00:37:47.800 don't make any adaptation and of course in real world you will do so i want to talk to you um uh

00:37:53.540 beyond lomborg um when we come back i want to take a one minute break but i want to come back and

00:37:58.920 talk a little bit more about this for instance hurricanes and the damage that is being done by her 1.00

00:38:03.980 hurricanes uh there's a real clear reason uh for that we'll get into that coming up

00:38:08.980 author of the book false alarm uh bjorn lomborg um do you remember being on our special on cnn

00:38:16.560 of course i do it was a pleasure it was uh it was a different time back then uh and it's gotten worse

00:38:25.620 because we can't talk about things anymore uh and and you're immediately uh called a science denier

00:38:33.840 and we've always wanted to base everything on science and i happen to believe that there there

00:38:40.220 is climate change it seems natural to me it also seems unreasonable to me that man with all that we

00:38:47.480 have done is not affecting the earth in some way or another of course so i want to get into some of the

00:38:53.500 things that individuals can do because that's the way it's always uh pitched um you know we all have

00:38:58.660 to do everything we can so let's get to the real things that we can but before we go there let's

00:39:04.140 talk about the hurricanes hurricanes and this drives me nuts people are saying oh the cost of hurricanes

00:39:10.720 well hurricanes are going up because we didn't used to live right on the beach and one of the reasons we

00:39:17.080 didn't live on the beach is because the federal government didn't insure people you couldn't get

00:39:22.180 insurance for your house if you lived right there on the beach where there's hurricanes but then the

00:39:27.880 federal government said oh we'll insure you and now there's a right to live on the beach and of

00:39:34.340 course we're doing more damage does that is that reasonable well it's certainly the right way to

00:39:40.460 describe this so remember the number of hurricanes uh hitting the continental u.s has actually declined

00:39:47.700 since 1900 that's also true for the uh major hurricanes so category three and over uh and exactly what you say

00:39:55.240 the main reason why damages keep going up is because many more people live much closer to

00:40:02.160 harm's way with much more stuff uh so remember florida in in 1900 there was virtually nobody there

00:40:08.920 the uh population of the coastal counties in florida has increased 67 fold since 1900 whereas the u.s

00:40:16.980 population has only increased uh fourfold so obviously much more stuff much closer to harm's way you're going to

00:40:24.520 get much bigger damage that does not mean this is because of cold warming and again if you want to

00:40:29.700 fix it as you point out maybe you should stop subsidizing people's insurance then they would

00:40:34.660 feel more responsible um so let's let's talk about another thing the amazon of course everybody knows now

00:40:41.340 that this is the planet's the planet's lungs true or false that's false a stable uh ecosystem like the

00:40:51.760 amazon uh emits no net uh oxygen uh so it's one of those many many myths that we hear um the world is

00:41:01.500 on fire you know uh you're clearly a denier here world is on fire the lungs were on fire um down on

00:41:09.160 the bottom end um there was a ring of fire in uh in australia california is on fire what's causing that

00:41:18.820 except global warming so fundamentally we need to recognize that we've seen a dramatic decline of

00:41:26.860 fire over the last 100 150 years basically because we've gotten richer and we've gotten much more

00:41:34.340 careful with our environment it actually matters to most people to make sure it doesn't burn uh so

00:41:39.720 burning rates also in the u.s have gone down by five to ten times compared uh to the early part of

00:41:46.800 last century but there is a problem with global warming it's likely that global warming will lead

00:41:52.480 to somewhat higher burn rates still much less than what we used to have but it is a problem and again

00:41:58.900 we need to ask them is the right way to deal with this is that to cut co2 we should probably do that 0.99

00:42:05.460 a little bit we shouldn't do this because of fire if you want to help people you should perhaps make

00:42:11.100 them stop building in what is essentially tinder boxes those are simple ways to make sure that you

00:42:16.560 zone people out of very very debt stores where they're likely to get burnt like uh and paradise

00:42:23.620 and other places in california do you believe in controlled burns i mean we stopped that in the 70s and

00:42:29.020 sure yeah and it seems again it seems like that is a very good idea most places uh and we know how to

00:42:36.620 do that that's also one of the reasons why we've seen much much less burn uh global we've seen burn

00:42:42.080 rates uh decrease about 25 percent just over the last 25 years so we've seen a dramatic reduction

00:42:48.260 there is part of this that's due to global warming but again the extrapolation the alarmism that we see in

00:42:56.340 the media makes us very hard to understand partly that this is not mostly caused by global warming

00:43:01.900 and that our best efforts our best policies have virtually nothing to do with global warming if

00:43:08.140 you actually want to help 30 seconds before the 30 seconds before the break is this alarmism is really

00:43:15.420 hurting because people won't pay attention once it doesn't happen right don't you think well i think

00:43:22.700 alarmism hurts because it both makes us spend much much more we're going to spend trillions and achieve

00:43:28.500 almost nothing and it makes us fail to focus on the things that really will matter both solutions

00:43:33.980 to climate but also all the other problems that still are there okay we're coming uh back with

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The Glenn Beck Program - August 18, 2020

Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Bjorn Lomborg & Steven Crowder ｜ 8⧸18⧸20

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