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On today's show, Glenn reflects on Michelle Obama's speech at the Democratic National Convention. Glenn also talks about why he doesn't like political conventions, and why he thinks they are a waste of time and energy.
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hey welcome to tuesday got a great great show for you today um we we started with michelle
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obama and uh and covering the convention it is a wild ride you don't want to miss
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we had bjorn lomberg on with us uh the skeptical environmentalist who was fantastic if everybody
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on the global warming scam was just saying the same things he was it wouldn't feel like a scam
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and i'd be a part of it and i think everybody would be a part of it really really logical and uh he's
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got a new book out about stop saying we're all going to be dead in 10 years because it's not
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true you're scaring the kids uh we talked to him also steven crowder joins us today you don't want
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oh my gosh when the when they started with the do we have the national anthem from the dnc last night
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powerful oh look and nobody's kneeling nobody's that's fantastic
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okay stop i can't take it so you knew you were in for a very long night of agony
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a very long night of programming honestly sesame street has a higher standard sesame for education
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sesame street has a higher standard this thing was jam-packed with information for absolute morons
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and idiots you start with the national anthem an educated person says how can you start with the
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national anthem because everybody's taking a knee you guys aren't defending the national anthem you
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guys are saying that the national anthem is racist so how are you doing that without any self-awareness
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they're totally self-aware they are programming to morons they don't think you're aware of it
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they don't think you know anything that's going on and the people that will buy this don't
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so you have to watch it in a different way like michelle obama's speech i'm going to try to get
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through i just have i think 10 pieces of her audio to get through i don't think i can do it um
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when you listen to michelle obama first of all the worst thing anyone can do on the right is tear
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michelle obama apart as a person or anything else because she is so light that's different than
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likable you don't have to like her you don't even have to understand how other people like her
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we don't feel this way because i'm sure she's a wonderful person if you agreed with her
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so i don't feel this way because i know so much about her i know that she doesn't love america she said
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the first time she was ever proud of her nation was when barack obama was elected the first time
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she was proud of her nation we have heard too many off-camera comments from her i know who she hung
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out with i know her marxist friends i know who she went to church with for 20 some years there's no way
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you can have the kind of love and appreciation for this country that maybe you have now maybe she
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appreciates it in a whole different way like it's a great place to start all over again maybe
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but we see her differently because we've been educated we've paid attention so let's listen
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to her speech here's cut one good evening everyone it's a hard time and everyone's feeling it in
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different ways i don't like it so far and i know a lot of folks are reluctant to tune into a political
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convention right now or to politics in general stop believe me i get why do you hate it so far
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i just don't get it i know everyone thinks she's amazing and she's this incredible person and
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she's the most beautiful woman that's ever walked the face of the earth she's an average person she's
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like there's nothing wrong with being average looking but that's just what she is she's an
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average looking person who does who so who again like i i watch her speeches and i feel like i'm in
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another universe i watch every blue check on twitter say how it was the most amazing thing they've ever
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seen and i it's i i look at it and i'm like that was that looked like the wife of a politician
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trying really hard to read a a speech who was written by a pretty good speech writer right
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and she's overacting it and overdoing it and she's not really great at this but like hey let's
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nice work out separating her from who she is and and what we know about her and and her politics like
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i just don't see her as this amazing transformative person she has everyone else does okay she has a
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way now remember talking two different things the way you see it and the way the half of the
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country sees her they have not been exposed nor have they listened to all of the things that make
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you go she she is not telling the truth here she's not telling the truth um that's prop part of it so
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it's part of it but she hasn't said anything yet all she said was you probably don't want to tune
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into a convention i was like oh she also says all of the things now this is a speech writer saying all
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of the things that everybody feels and she has a way she is good at one thing she can look into the
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camera and connect with an individual maybe not you but she can connect and that's a very rare skill
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and i do think she has that she seems overacting to me but if you're not predisposed to think
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she's a fraud you may not feel that from her all right continue i get that but i am here tonight
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because i love this country with all my heart and it pains me to see so many people hurting
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i've met so many of you i've heard your stories and through you every line i have seen this country's
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promise and thanks to so many who came before me thanks to their toil and sweat and blood
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i've been able to live that promise myself that's the story of america wow all those folks who
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sacrificed and overcame so much in their own times because they wanted something more something better
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for their kids there's a lot of beauty in that story there's a lot of pain in it too a lot of struggle
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and injustice and work left to do okay and i have to tell you i i what what what you see this is the
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problem they say things they don't mean because if you meant that we wouldn't have a problem yes there's
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a lot of pain and let's work through that pain but that's not what's being said what's being said
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there is no beauty in the people that struggled in their own time as she said in their own time
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to make life better for their children they did in their own time their times were different so they
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didn't meet today's standards but they moved the flag forward and now it's our job to move the flag
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forward even more but that's not what the left is saying that's not what the democratic party stands for
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anymore they call for the destruction of america a rewriting of our history a washing us of everyone
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in their time that was trying to do the right thing for their children that's a real problem now let's go
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to sought to listen to this tell me who she's describing i am one of a handful of people living
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today who have seen firsthand the immense weight and awesome power of the presidency and let me once
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again tell you this the job is hard it requires clear-headed judgment yes a mastery of complex and
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competing issues yes a devotion to facts and history history a moral compass and an ability
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to listen all right and an abiding belief that each of the 330 million lives in this country okay has
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meaning and worth okay all right okay stop stop now remember she's giving the speech for joe biden so
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let me just go through this she's seen it firsthand immense weight and awesome power of the presidency
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she's seen it can we say real quick this country's not supposed to have an awesomely
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powerful president that's not how it's supposed to work yes so but she's seen that yeah she has seen
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that let me once again tell you this the job is hard agree sure yes uh it requires clear-headed
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judgment does joe biden have clear-headed judgment how could anyone say that with a straight face
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can't how can't a mastery of complex and competing issues he can't even get to multiple syllable words
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at this point he might have five years ago 10 years ago certainly did when he was with with uh barack
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obama at the beginning certainly did now no a devotion of facts and history no one on the left has that
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biden didn't even have that back in when he was going with obama i remember the uh what was it fdr
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and the television right i mean he just didn't have it and if i may a devotion of facts and history
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let me go back to michelle obama in 2008 and barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices
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we're going to have to change our conversation we're going to have to change our traditions our
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history we're going to have to move into a different place so we're going to have to change our
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history so a devotion of facts and history does she really mean that and does joe biden have that
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a moral compass a guy whose son has built with his dad millions of dollars through through gun running
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drug lord you know mafioso style people in ukraine and gotten deeply in bed with a communist chinese
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party and made millions of dollars is that a moral compass that you think he has i'm not saying let's
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not we don't have to compare we could say donald trump just assume i haven't seen it but just assume
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oh his kids are dirty as hell too well a haven't seen that evidence um but b we're talking about
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michelle obama saying we need a moral compass does joe biden have that moral compass oh and an ability
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to listen the only reason why he's listening is because he can't speak anymore i mean who is she
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describing here i mean it's almost as if she's just she's making the case that they should not
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nominate joe biden right it's almost like she's saying like you know what at least you give the
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job to me or kamala or somebody else you know it's almost like she says look you know me and i i've seen it
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job's hard we're clear-headed judgment mastery of complex and competing issues devotion of facts
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and history a moral compass and an ability to listen that's why we picked kamala to be on the
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ticket um because she's got that joe has lost it a long time ago but he's not really going to be
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this is the glenbeck program joined now by steven crowder blaze tv host louder with crowder did you
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watch the uh did did you watch the convention last night steven steven no we'll be live streaming
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thursday because that's you know when biden and kamala harris will be there but uh we plan on live
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streaming every night and thank god we didn't because nothing happened other than uh michelle
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obama saying that donald trump is not good so my gosh it was bad it was bad how they opened with
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the star spangled banner is beyond me uh but uh steven first of all congratulations on uh getting
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re-monetized on youtube let's just say next time we go out for dinner you're picking up the check
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uh but uh i can pick up a portion of the hors d'oeuvres no no oysters okay let's just you know
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like like some mozzarella sticks yeah i'll make sure it's nice and i actually wouldn't do that to you
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because i don't think it's going to last long how first of all you have a great attorney um how did
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this happen and how long do you think it's going to last well to answer the second part your guess
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is as good as mine probably a week um but uh this has been going on for 14 months for 14 months it's
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been going on with the vox apocalypse people need to understand that youtube changed their rules
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because we didn't violate any guidelines that was those were the words uttered by the youtube ceo
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susan woodjitzky herself so then they changed it and created new guidelines for advertising and then
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new community guidelines where you can't really insult people because we listen we understand
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that it's youtube's playground and we play by the rules and then they've changed the rules and then
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there were some things behind the scenes where they tried to do uh a little more massaging and
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tweaking of the rules with which i was no longer comfortable and uh now here we are i sign in and it's a
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big re-monetized symbol but the weird thing is you know youtube let us know that we would be
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re-monetized last thursday and everyone knows us at the blaze because we said hey this is going to
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happen don't let anyone know we're going to announce it thursday youtube requested that it's
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just them and us we're the only ones who know and lo and behold two days before that it gets leaked to
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the verge owned by vox and uh the little buddies at matchable so i have no idea how that got out
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wow but um you know it's uh well it wasn't uh wasn't anybody on uh on your your staff or our staff
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that uh leaked that to vox gee i wonder how that happened i thought you have ezra klein on speed
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diet that's what i was uh let me you did an amazing interview uh with david dorn uh his wife david dorn
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is the uh the former police captain in st louis that was was guarding and and helping out at a pawn shop
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and somebody came in to steal a t-shirt and killed him over that um really a hair raising and gut
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wrenching uh scene wasn't really didn't didn't make uh a difference really into the mainstream media
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but anybody who really watched it was touched by this first of all how did you how did you get the
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interview with uh with his wife well you know i can't that's credit to my dad he's the booker for our
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show and that really happened because everyone else was too afraid to book the show so thanks dad so
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he's gotten a lot of these interviews you know steven williford after the sutherland springs shooter
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yeah um i can't take credit for it really we've been blessed with that and uh to brief people in
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the story yeah we do have this shirt it's the david dorn shirt you can go to lottowithcrowdershop.com
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100 of the profits are going to go directly to his family and his wife excellent um it was over 30
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years that he was with the st louis police department but i think the story is more important because
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he was off duty and he came in to help a friend to answer a call in distress a pawn shop that was
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being looted and he was shot he was a black man black police officer who served a black community
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for a very long time uh served it well you can't really find any dirt on this guy which in 2020 is
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in it's almost impossible and believe me we really tried to to search to see if there are any skeletons
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in in this closet um no there was nothing there that we found thus far you know no one's perfect
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and uh he was shot over a vizio by another black gentleman uh in that community and this is
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someone the reason i think it's an important story is not just because it's a black police officer and
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these people have been left out in the cold despite the fact that uh there are more minorities in the
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police force than in the general population at large and that's because they see it as a way to
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serve their community we also see over 80 percent of black americans who want at least as much police
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presence if not more so black lives matter doesn't speak for them they just have a megaphone with the
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media but this is a man who not only is an example for the black community but anyone any young men i
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mean if we want to talk about heroes a guy who served his community for 30 plus years was answering
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a call off duty and was shot dead while protecting his neighborhood that is a hero and you know why
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because no one would have ever known if he never responded to that call that wasn't a police call
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there was no record of it no one would have cared no one would have judged him for staying home
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in his comfortable bed sheets with a soft pillow and instead he was going out doing the right thing
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when no one was watching no one cared and unfortunately no one cared after he died in the
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media and so we've really tried to take it upon ourselves to make sure that his story gets told and
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you know you know glenn i i will say this i've watched you quite a bit uh in the past uh and and
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present you've had a lot of big interviews and i always struggle with these because i never want to be
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you know i never want to exploit somebody yes but i also want to ask the questions that i think
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everyone would like to have answered i don't want to be barbara walters you know asking what kind of
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tree would they would be or oprah getting them to cry yeah um so it was it's always tough for me and
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i hope i struck that balance because i really do admire uh both uh uh the late officer doran and his
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wife who by the way is also a police officer they were married police officers and they started programs
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to help uh youth in their community and even help them enroll in the police force so when people talk
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about reforming the police when people talk about making it better when people talk about
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tangible solutions right solutions that have observable metrics these people dedicated their
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life to it were shot dead for it and no one tells their story so that's a shame let me play a couple
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of clips um here uh here she is this is sergeant andorn um talking about why her husband's death wasn't
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covered in the media listen why do you think it is that uh this story with your husband uh has
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received comparatively so little media coverage and we've done everything that we can but we're
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obviously only one show but the big abc nbc cbs almost nothing the easiest answer is it doesn't
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fit their narrative it doesn't fit the narrative of um you know a policeman killing a black man it
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doesn't you know it's a black on black crime um we have those every day in st louis and i hate to
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say that it's very sad that's one component that we need to fix with this peace march and we need
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to address you know all lives are precious right every life out there is precious um and he just
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didn't fit the narrative yeah uh then uh cut to please he went out fighting you know the good fight
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helping people um i believe everything happens for a reason and um you know he's gonna speak
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through me and i'm i'm hoping the reason is to help heal the city to realize hey he didn't have to die
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you know the young man didn't have to pull that trigger you know there's alternatives there was no
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reason to pull the trigger and take david's life um yeah david you know david went out honorably
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you know fighting so i can't um i can't ask for anything more i don't i wouldn't have
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wanted it to happen that way i'd like to grow old with him right but um if he had to die this
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oh you know like this then yes yeah you know he went out of here and i'm just hoping i can bring
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meaning to it she uh was very composed up until um that when she started talking about growing old
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with him um you can tell how much um she she loved him do you think that there is a uh problem
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and racism in the media itself the fact that she is white and he is black do you think that played a
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role in this not being covered steven you know i don't even know if they got that far along the
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trail uh i'm just like with the hydroxychloroquine lady who clearly well who i believe probably knocked
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off her husband they didn't do any research and find out that she was an anti-trump activist and
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donor to the dnc i think this was a story that didn't interest them from the get-go just like last uh
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last night or yesterday when a man was beaten within an inch of his life uh dragged out of his truck
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by antifa and black lives matter activists i just don't think that it suits their narrative
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and and i know that that's a phrase that's used a lot doesn't suit their narrative but i don't think
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it's ever been on more crystal clear display for everyone to see because if we're talking about
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black lives that matter and all black lives do matter and all lives matter but let's say all
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black lives matter so that you know we're not accused of of burning crosses and having a white
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hood if you say all lives matter but all black lives certainly matter wouldn't it stand to reason
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to look at the number one cause of death number one cause of death for all black males under age
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44 it's it's homicide it's not even close death from police officers doesn't even crack the top of
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the list do you know that a black police officer any police officer is actually 18 times more likely
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to be shot by a black man a young black man than he is to shoot them so if we're talking about
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hey all black lives matter and we want to help the black community which is what david dorn and his wife
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dedicated their entire lives to serve it wasn't a hashtag they were doing this when no one was
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watching before hashtags were a thing we should be talking about how to curb homicide with young
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black males in the community and i want to be clear i'm not like a nick cannon saying that homicide
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is because of melanin in the skin you know he thinks that white folks don't have souls because it's
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melanin no i think we have a spiritual and a culturally broken problem the united states i think it's across
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all colors but i think particularly in the black community and david dorn obviously uh knew this
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because he served the youth they are raised in fatherless households and not only that but in
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communities where there aren't other dads and so you have record numbers of black lives being taken by
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other young black males so steven i've only got 90 seconds left um i've seen so many of your change
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my minds recently um and i i i wanted to get a sense from you when it comes to black lives matter
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when it comes to marxism and everything else are you seeing a turn at all even a small turn or is
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is everyone just locked into that that you know black lives matter inc is good uh here's the thing
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people hear the term black lives matter think it's good right if you pull people just like don't kick
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puppies okay that's good when you actually read the demands and you read the history and the
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charter from black lives matter and their founders nearly everyone unilaterally disagrees with them
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most of all black americans so black lives matter the idea we're all on board with black lives matter
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the organization just like antifa is a domestic terror organization 600 million dollars in property
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damage 14 000 arrests 900 officer casualties over 20 people dead if you don't call that a riot i don't
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know what is steven crowder thank you so much um by the way it become a mug club uh member just if
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um of the uh profits on that will go uh to his his wife and family thank you so much steven
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appreciate it thank you glenn god bless god bless him man we have such a great group of people on our
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bjorn lomberg author of false alarm president of the copenhagen consensus center visiting fellow from
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the hoover institution i believe he was part of our first uh climate special that we did at cnn
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back when cnn actually would have opposing views on kind of uh it took everything in them to let us
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do that special uh but i am somebody who i i own property uh out west in the mountains i believe in
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the environment i love trees i love animals and i want to keep our our water and our air clean and
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i don't know of anybody who doesn't care about that i'm sure they exist but i don't know anybody
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who doesn't care about that the problem seems to be with taking the climate change attitude and
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then applying it into an emergency panic everybody's gonna die quickly and so we have to do this well what
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should we do beyond lomberg is uh joining us now bjorn how are you sir hey clint i'm good how are you
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i'm very good so we wanted to um uh we wanted to talk to you about a couple of things the alarmism but
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first who who is this book targeted to so look i talk to a lot of people and very many people are
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really really worried about global warming and especially their kids are worried about global warming
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you know lots of kids are saying why should i study if there's no future for me because and that
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certainly is what we're being told uh a new survey showed that almost half of the entire global
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population now believes that uh global warming will lead to the extinction of the human race
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and that is simply crazy look global warming is a real problem it's something we should fix but we
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need to get a sense of proportion the u.n climate panel tells us that by the 2070s the impact of
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global warming will be equivalent to somewhere between 0.2 and 2 percent reduction in your average
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income remember by then the u.n expect that we'll be two and a half times richer so instead of being
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two and a half times richer we'll be slightly less than two and a half times richer by 2070 that's a
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problem that's not the end of the world so this book is really to all the people who are worried and
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of course all the people they know who are worried and telling look it's a problem not the end of the
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world so you're kind of in the category of michael schellenberger that uh except you're probably more
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in line with the ipcc you take those reports as as gospel and say look we're just going to accept
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this as fact but then you look for the things that we we can do that will actually make a difference
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um would you put yourself kind of in michael schellenberger's kind of place oh sure sure and
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i think there's a lot of people in that camp because honestly what that means is you take what
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the science is telling us there is a problem but then you also insist we need to look at the economics
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of climate change and actually take the best science there and most people don't remember i
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take my starting point in the guy uh who actually got the only nobel prize in climate economics uh
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william nordhaus from yale university and he says as do almost everyone in climate economics that there
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is a real problem with climate change so probably in the order of three to four percent gdp by the end of
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the century that means if you can fix a substantial part for a low cost that's a good idea but it's
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crazy to try to fix a three to four percent problem by incurring policies that will cost 15 to 30 percent
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of your gdp and and that's what you're i mean you did an article in usa today climate change democratic
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alarmism leads to failing policies can you take us through that yeah so look the democrats have
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a good intention they're pointing out look there's a real problem but then they go on to say and and
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much to you know as you as you pointed out they believe that this is going to lead to the end of
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the world in you know 10 years and that's just not the case if it was the case if this was a you know
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a meteor hurtling towards earth the only thing you should be doing would be to worry about global
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worrying you know you just throw everything in the kitchen sink correct send up bruce willis and
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everybody else and you know fix that meteor right but the reality is this is a minor problem it's not
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a zero problem it's a three to four percent problem over the next 80 years and so the risk and what
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they're clearly suggesting is you know we should have no new gasoline cars by 2035 and fossil fuels
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in power sector in 2040 basically get the u.s to net zero so emit no new co2 in 2050 that is going to
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be phenomenally expensive remember we only have one estimate that actually shows how costly that will
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be so lots of nations have promised only one nation was brave enough to actually ask so how much is that
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going to cost that was new zealand so you know left-wing new zealand actually asked how much is
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going to cost them their preeminent estimate was this is going to cost us at least 16 percent of our
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jdp more likely around 30 percent oh my gosh that for the u.s is equivalent to paying five to ten
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trillion dollars every year remember that's more than what the entire national uh federal budget is
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right now every year it's twice that five trillion is twice the revenues of the united states of america
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so you tax it's twice the revenues just for that yeah and and remember it would not fix global warming
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it would slightly reduce the impact because most of the problem from global warming does not actually
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come from rich countries because we've already you know sort of peaked and we're increasingly going
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towards just producing services which emits very little co2 but most of the rest of the world so china
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india africa latin america still want to get rich they want to get to where we are today and they will
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mostly be able to do that by using much more cheap and readily available energy and try and telling them
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i'm sorry you can't do what we did unbelievable right you'll just have to stay poor yeah it's it's
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it's absolutely irresponsible um but you're not talking about when when you talk to global warming people
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um the the the zealots you can't get them to talk about nuclear energy the cleanest and the safest
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energy out there you can't get them to talk about that um you can't talk to them about let's help africa
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um grow to be a richer and you know an industrial nation and go through the industrial revolution but
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in a clean way we can help them get into the 21st century by giving them power nobody wants to nobody
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wants to help them um get richer and live our kind of lifestyle they're trying to just bring everybody
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down to their lifestyle instead of bringing them up to our lifestyle there's certainly a lot of truth
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to that i actually find that when you confront most people with this especially well-meaning uh sort of
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left-leaning people they also want that and so you expose in some way a very clear uh twist in their
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minds between on the one side they want to help africa and the world's poor but they also want
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to fix global warming and of course what ends up is very often they throw the africans under the bus
00:34:52.100
because they care too much about climate change again if you think it's because it's the end of
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the world that makes sense but if you actually realize oh wait this is a problem like many others we
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need to fix you need to get much smarter on this issue and that's of course one of the reasons also
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why i wrote this book that there are actually really smart ways to fix climate just not the
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typical ways that we use right now talking to bjorn lomborg the book is false alarm it's a great one uh
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bjorn take us through some of this alarmism one example you talk about in the book and i've heard
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it from a million places is that it's 170 million people are going to be displaced by climate change
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uh coming up fairly soon and that's what the science says you go through that claim and kind
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of show what it actually is trying the story is trying to tell is a totally different perception
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can you walk us through that one yeah i mean so look if you just look at rising uh temperatures
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will mean rising sea levels that's very simple and that's very true rising sea levels all other
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things equal will mean that more people will get inundated and eventually have to move and of
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course the more alarmist uh will tell us oh my god they're all going to drown uh but the reality
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is of course we actually adapt all of these estimates so one very very uh highly quoted estimate
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said 187 million people are going to get flooded or are going to have to move by the end of the
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century because of global warming that assumes no one does anything so it assumes that everybody sit
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on the beach and watch as the waves start lapping up over their ankles and knees and apparently they
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have to move or they drown but of course in reality over the next 80 years we will adapt we will build
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better sea defenses we'll build more dikes we'll build more uh nourished beaches and all these
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different technologies that we've known since you know five or six thousand years ago we know how to do
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this and that's why all the studies and this particular study that generated headlines across
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all of the u.s and washington post and around the world it tells you that if you do nothing you're
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going to see 187 million people being displaced but if you do realistic assessments of what people
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will do you will see 305 000 people having to move remember that's half the number of people
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that move out of california every year of course we can handle that globally over the next 80 years
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so you're being told a story that's 600 times more alarming and that's why you get really scared
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and if this was just one single example maybe it wouldn't matter all that much but unfortunately
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this is almost entirely how we're seeing climate change reported we're telling you stories that are
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only true under very specific and very unrealistic assumptions like you don't do anything that you
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don't make any adaptation and of course in real world you will do so i want to talk to you um uh
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beyond lomborg um when we come back i want to take a one minute break but i want to come back and
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talk a little bit more about this for instance hurricanes and the damage that is being done by her
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hurricanes uh there's a real clear reason uh for that we'll get into that coming up
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author of the book false alarm uh bjorn lomborg um do you remember being on our special on cnn
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of course i do it was a pleasure it was uh it was a different time back then uh and it's gotten worse
00:38:25.620
because we can't talk about things anymore uh and and you're immediately uh called a science denier
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and we've always wanted to base everything on science and i happen to believe that there there
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is climate change it seems natural to me it also seems unreasonable to me that man with all that we
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have done is not affecting the earth in some way or another of course so i want to get into some of the
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things that individuals can do because that's the way it's always uh pitched um you know we all have
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to do everything we can so let's get to the real things that we can but before we go there let's
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talk about the hurricanes hurricanes and this drives me nuts people are saying oh the cost of hurricanes
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well hurricanes are going up because we didn't used to live right on the beach and one of the reasons we
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didn't live on the beach is because the federal government didn't insure people you couldn't get
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insurance for your house if you lived right there on the beach where there's hurricanes but then the
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federal government said oh we'll insure you and now there's a right to live on the beach and of
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course we're doing more damage does that is that reasonable well it's certainly the right way to
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describe this so remember the number of hurricanes uh hitting the continental u.s has actually declined
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since 1900 that's also true for the uh major hurricanes so category three and over uh and exactly what you say
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the main reason why damages keep going up is because many more people live much closer to
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harm's way with much more stuff uh so remember florida in in 1900 there was virtually nobody there
00:40:08.920
the uh population of the coastal counties in florida has increased 67 fold since 1900 whereas the u.s
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population has only increased uh fourfold so obviously much more stuff much closer to harm's way you're going to
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get much bigger damage that does not mean this is because of cold warming and again if you want to
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fix it as you point out maybe you should stop subsidizing people's insurance then they would
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feel more responsible um so let's let's talk about another thing the amazon of course everybody knows now
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that this is the planet's the planet's lungs true or false that's false a stable uh ecosystem like the
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amazon uh emits no net uh oxygen uh so it's one of those many many myths that we hear um the world is
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on fire you know uh you're clearly a denier here world is on fire the lungs were on fire um down on
00:41:09.160
the bottom end um there was a ring of fire in uh in australia california is on fire what's causing that
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except global warming so fundamentally we need to recognize that we've seen a dramatic decline of
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fire over the last 100 150 years basically because we've gotten richer and we've gotten much more
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careful with our environment it actually matters to most people to make sure it doesn't burn uh so
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burning rates also in the u.s have gone down by five to ten times compared uh to the early part of
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last century but there is a problem with global warming it's likely that global warming will lead
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to somewhat higher burn rates still much less than what we used to have but it is a problem and again
00:41:58.900
we need to ask them is the right way to deal with this is that to cut co2 we should probably do that
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a little bit we shouldn't do this because of fire if you want to help people you should perhaps make
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them stop building in what is essentially tinder boxes those are simple ways to make sure that you
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zone people out of very very debt stores where they're likely to get burnt like uh and paradise
00:42:23.620
and other places in california do you believe in controlled burns i mean we stopped that in the 70s and
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sure yeah and it seems again it seems like that is a very good idea most places uh and we know how to
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do that that's also one of the reasons why we've seen much much less burn uh global we've seen burn
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rates uh decrease about 25 percent just over the last 25 years so we've seen a dramatic reduction
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there is part of this that's due to global warming but again the extrapolation the alarmism that we see in
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the media makes us very hard to understand partly that this is not mostly caused by global warming
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and that our best efforts our best policies have virtually nothing to do with global warming if
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you actually want to help 30 seconds before the 30 seconds before the break is this alarmism is really
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hurting because people won't pay attention once it doesn't happen right don't you think well i think
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alarmism hurts because it both makes us spend much much more we're going to spend trillions and achieve
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almost nothing and it makes us fail to focus on the things that really will matter both solutions
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to climate but also all the other problems that still are there okay we're coming uh back with
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bjorn lomberg and we'll talk about the things that we can do that we should be talking about