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Glenn and Jake are stuffed to the brim with ice cream, and they talk about the Black Hole and the Donut Scandal, and how the left and the right can come together, but the left won t do it.
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Oh, help us. Welcome to the Friday podcast. We're both a little stuffed with ice cream
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today. We had some fans of ours that just started this new ice cream company called
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Brooker's Founding Flavors send ice cream. So it was three hours of taste testing and
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10 flavors. I don't think we can either of us can move. But in that time, we also talked
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about Bernie Sanders and his health care. His health care plan is insane. We also had
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the Biden bracket where Ted Stanley and Rock Rockwell stopped by to tell us about that.
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Fascinating conversation with Blake Harris on his book, The History of the Future, which
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is something that everyone should know. It's a story of corruption, a real true crime, political
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silencing at Facebook, The History of the Future. Brad Palumbo talked a little bit about
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how the left and the right can come together, but the left won't do it. The black hole and
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the donut scandal. I believe, yes, that there's no pictures of black holes. It's a donut. And
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I proved it. And you can see the evidence that we put together on glennbeck.com. You can see
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that from today's podcast as well. And don't forget, tomorrow's podcast is a must listen.
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It is Arthur Brooks, formerly from the American Enterprise Institute. He's now going next fall,
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he'll be making his premiere, his debut as a Harvard professor. He's one of the greatest
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free market minds you've ever met. And he's got a really inspirational message, empowering message.
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And that is on Saturday's podcast, Arthur Brooks.
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transition really, really simple. Switch to Patriot Mobile now. On today's show, I am going to prove
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that we never went to the moon. You've got some evidence. I do have evidence. I was surprised about.
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Okay. So I'm going to prove we never went to the moon and NASA is still lying to us. Uh, you saw that
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picture of the black hole? I, yes, I have. I have a theory that is a glazed donut on a piece of black
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velvet and he hit the lighting, right? And you just knock the camera out of focus and that's a glazed
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donut. That is not a black hole. Oh, first picture of a black hole. No, it's not. It's a donut hole
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and I can prove it and we will do side by side. To be clear, it is not a donut hole, which is
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something else you would buy. Also known as a munchkin, which is hateful, I believe, by Dunkin'
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Donuts. Right. Uh, but no, yeah, it's not a donut hole. It's an actual donut with a hole in it.
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Right. That you believe represents what the black hole picture is. I'm telling you, NASA says,
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oh, look, we took a picture of the black hole. No, you didn't. You put a donut, a glazed donut
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on a piece of velvet and, uh, and, and knock the camera out of focus. And that's what you're saying
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is a black hole. And I will prove it on today's program. Now, before you, um, do what you're about
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to do, cause we're going to talk about Bernie Sanders, uh, Medicare for all thing. And so let's
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start it with something that's going to make us need Medicare, at least for us. Um, we're, we have,
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first of all, donut talk. Second of all, we have tons and tons of ice cream to taste
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today during the show. This is the greatest day of my life. This is why, I mean, I don't
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know why we're doing anything else. Forget Bernie Sanders. He's a socialist, whatever. I mean,
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whatever. We're all going to die someday. Um, no, we have a Brooker's founding flavors,
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which you talked about a couple of weeks ago. Okay. These are people who started their own,
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uh, ice cream store. And I am, I am not kidding you. I've only had a couple of their flavors when
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I was out, uh, by their store and they came and they brought some ice cream a couple of weeks to
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me, uh, a couple of weeks ago. And I said to my wife, I want a franchise. You actually came back
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legitimately pitching for a franchise. I really want a franchise. I want a part of this because
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they, I, cause I could die happy. I could retire and go work at an ice cream store. It'd be the
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greatest thing of my life. And it's got the founding father's stuff in it. I, this is me. I'm all in.
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I wasn't necessarily all in until I've, I mean, I like the idea of an ice cream store,
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but this is, what is it? 18% butterfat. That is, I believe what they said. Yes. So now the best
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ice cream I've ever had is Bluebell here in Texas. And, and people will talk about Bluebell. If you've
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ever been to Texas and you've had Bluebell, you talk about it and everybody's like, it is the best.
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And you don't think it could get better. Uh, once you've had it. And that is 14%
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13, 13. And Bluebell does not even hit the 14%, which is the level for super premium. I think it
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is, or mega premium or exotic premium. Or so there's some level of ice cream where you get
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there. Um, because it's like the ice cream of Kings is 14%. Bluebell is good ice cream,
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but Bluebell is ice cream. You go and you get in a half gallon at a grocery store. Like it's really
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good ice cream. You know, there's a level of like craft ice cream that is available now.
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If you don't mind spending $12 a pint for it. Yeah. Not craft with a K. No, not craft with a K.
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That's right. It's like craft beer, right? Like now there's millions of these crazy varieties.
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Now this one is not one of them. Cause there's a lot of these are mail order and I've actually
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ordered some of these before and it's insane. It's like, you know, triple the calories per
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serving. Have you had any of this yet? I haven't had any of it. I'm so excited. So we have two
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flavors to start off. Okay. Um, we've paired the Adams together. There's Abigail Adams salted
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crack cookie advice and Samuel Adams father of the cookies and cream revolution. Okay.
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Which one is the, which one's the white one and which one's kind of really a question from
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someone. If someone knows ice cream, they know cookies and cream is obviously the one with Oreos
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in it. I can't tell which is Oreo. Okay. Okay. Okay. I see it. All right. I see it.
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One's caramel. No, geez. All right. Let's try it. Oh my gosh. This is so good.
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The cookies and cream one. I'm trying the other one. Oh my gosh. Oh my God. Try the other
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one. Okay. The one with this has caramel in it and chocolate. I'm a big caramel guy too.
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it's not, this sounds gross, but imagine the, the creaminess. It's almost like eating a stick of
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butter, not in a gross way. It doesn't taste like that. It doesn't taste like that. It's just so
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creamy. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's over the top. Oh my gosh. It like sticks to your tongue I've ever
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had. It like sticks to your tongue. It is so creamy. And like this, this is why, and we've
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talked about this a million times. Oh my gosh. This is good. This is why our, this is why our
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country was founded. Uh, this is why our listeners are so great. Well, yeah, listeners, whatever.
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What I'm talking about is this nation was founded to create things like this. You think they have
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this in North Korea? No, there's no ice cream that tastes like this in Cuba. There's no fat
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in North Korea, except on one guy. This is, this is unbelievable. Really good.
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Those are two. And like, we kind of started off with, I mean, these are two flavors that look
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really good. These are not, I have a whole menu of flavors tonight to taste test. This is not the
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one I would pick. I don't think I would pick either one of these. I do like cookies and cream. I like
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cookies and cream. I would not have picked the other one. Is that the Abigail? Yeah. And
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that is, I haven't even tried the cookies and cream. That is unbelievable. So two
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flavors. This is Brooker's. Yes. Brooker's founding flavors. It's a, you have the Abigail
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Adams one, which is smoked salted caramel ice cream with cracked cookie chunks. And
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then the Samuel Adams, which is cookies and cream ice cream chunks of chocolate
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sandwich cookies. It is my goal today to do two things. Blake Harris.
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His book was 33,336 or 32. Um, two days ago. Yeah. It had been out for a month. Nobody had read
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it. This guy is a liberal journalist who found out the truth about what was going on because of
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Donald Trump and the way the press was treating, um, the supporter of Donald Trump. Uh, and it's a huge
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story. No one would cover it. No one. And this guy is a great writer. Last night, I got a note that
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his book is up to number four. Oh, really? Yeah. So it's number four from 33,000 to number four
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because of this audience. He has no other interviews. It's my goal to make that book number
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one. And it is also my goal for everyone to gain at least three pounds with, uh, with, uh, with
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Brooker's, uh, what is it? Founding flavors? Yes. I've had three, uh, spoonfuls. So I already
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have gained the three pounds. Uh, that's what it feels like at least it is really good. So
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we'll give you more flavors. Oh my gosh, this cookies and cream is, I've never tasted anything
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like that. It is really good. Really good. Oh my gosh, this is good. By the way, yes, we're
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eating, uh, ice cream, uh, at this time of day. Yes, but we're looking at my retirement. I'm going
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to buy a franchise. When they start to franchise, they don't franchise yet. When they start to
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franchise this, you know what? This makes a Cold Stone Creamery look like, I don't know, Dairy
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Queen. This is always the Glenn way. He cannot give a compliment without insulting somebody
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else. I've had to deal with this for 20 years, 20 years of this. It's always been a sweet
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ice cream filled 20 years. Has it not? I will say I've had more ice cream at work than I
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would have expected getting into this business. So thank you for that. Uh, should we talk,
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should we take a quick one minute break and then talk about the Bernie Sanders thing? Because
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there are differences in this Bernie Sanders Medicare for all thing from all the other pitches
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that you are not going to believe. This is worse than the NHS in England. It is, it is Venezuelan
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healthcare. It really is. It will blow your mind how far we have come from Obamacare where you can
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keep your doctors to remember that you will not keep your healthcare. You will not keep your doctor
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no matter what. Nope. And it is, this is a terrifying plan to be proposed in America. In fact, this plan
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is so radical, it would not even fly in Canada. This is way beyond Canada. Unconstitutional in
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Hey, it's Glenn. And I want to tell you about something that you should either end your day with
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or, um, start your morning with, and that is the news and why it matters. If you like this show,
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you're going to love the news and why it matters. It's a bunch of us that all get together at the
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end of the day and just talk about the stories that matter to you and your life. The news and why
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it matters. Look for it now, wherever you download your favorite podcasts. Uh, we, uh, we have to
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touch base on something that we've been working on all week. And that is the Biden bracket. We,
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we started out with the 32 creepiest pictures of Joe Biden and, uh, whittled it down yesterday.
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We found out as the, as the listeners spoke and each picture was pitted against another,
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we found the, the most creepy, or at least voted by the, uh, by the audience, the most creepy picture
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of Joe Biden to talk about the Biden bracket. We go to our sports desk with Ted Stanley and, uh,
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rock rock. Well, hi everybody. I'm Ted Stanley along with rock rock. Well, hi rock. Hi Ted.
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How are you? Very well. Very well. The Biden bracket was an incredible week. We saw all sorts of
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incredible performances. They were talking grope, tastic things that happened well beyond what we
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believe is normal human interaction. Uh, some interesting things happened in the early rounds
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I felt, and that the number one overall seat in the tournament, which was Joe Biden nuzzling up
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under a biker chick as his, her seemingly two boyfriends look on in horror. That one I really
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thought was going to go far and got knocked out on the second round. That was a huge upset Ted,
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uh, because that was a strong entry for, for Joe. She was sitting directly on his lap. Uh, and, uh,
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both the men in her life were, uh, we're, we're not looking happy about it. Yeah. And if you really
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look at the details of this photo, you'll notice that the, the, the name on the biker guy on the right,
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who looks horrified, his name is troll. And if you look even closer, you'll notice it's actually
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president troll. Now that is actually on his jacket. If you look at the photo, that is not something
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we expected, uh, but there it is. Of course, uh, we also had that one. And I will say in the first
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round, it had a did win in the first round, but one against a very surprising competitor, which was
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Joe Biden leaning over a series of chairs to put his hand on the inner thigh of Samuel Alito, a Supreme
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Court justice. I had never seen that one before. I really, really made a difference. Also, I'll say
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that the loss went to, uh, a, uh, an interesting photo with the former defense secretary of Barack
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Obama, Ash Carter and his wife. And he was speaking and focused on a speech while Joe Biden almost made
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out with his wife right behind them. Seeing that in a public setting was shocking, Pat.
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That was one of, uh, Joe's more impressive rock. Sorry. What, one of Joe's more impressive
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performance. Wait a minute. This is starting to come apart. He really nuzzled in there. He got a
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good whiff of the hair. He got his head. He got his nose right up into those follicles. I'm pretty
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sure there was a little tongue involved too in the back of her neck. Uh, Ted, that was very,
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very impressive to me. Great point. We can ask Joe Biden, Joe Biden later. How does hair taste?
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We'll find that out on a future program. Uh, also, uh, an early, uh, leader was Joe Biden
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as he's talking to, uh, I don't know if it's the parents, another Senator and wrapping the,
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his hand only around onto the stomach of a teen, a young teenaged girl and seemingly checking her
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if to see if she has abs is how I would describe that motion. Uh, rock. I just, I, I was surprised
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to see that. It was a bold move. That's, uh, that's, uh, that's one that makes you proud
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of, uh, of Joe and his prowess, uh, in this event. You know, I, I hate to break in as, uh,
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the anchorman here and, and, and delve into sports, which I know nothing about. That's right. That's
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right. Glenn, you do know nothing about it. When he was, when he was not a man, he's not
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a man. Does he rock? When he was not a, he's about 98% woman. He certainly is. If we were
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doing a show about shitty, shitty, bang, bang, he'd be able to come, come in and come
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out over and over again, but he really, if sound of music is the topic, Glenn, just what I'm saying
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here is he might've been checking for abs, but to me, it appears he was just checking for any kind
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of lumps. The young 13 year old might've been developing. Well, I think we'll leave, we'll leave
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that one alone. Go check that one out on the internet. Uh, there are some moments in which
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that does look like it could be happening a little bit. Uh, we also have, uh, Chris Coons's
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daughter who is a young, a young woman. Uh, and you know, one of the interesting things
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we, we, we've all seen, uh, people who want to say they're, they're really, uh, advanced
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at groping rock, but what sets someone like Joe Biden apart here is the ability to walk
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right through the obvious human signals of someone pulling away. You know, it's one thing
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to, to grope someone against their will. It's another thing to sniff their hair as they continually
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pull away and then try to land a kiss on their cheek. Any good performer Ted needs to have amnesia
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and, uh, and Joe seems to have no problem forgetting all of his past faux pas and just moving forward
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with the performance. Like a, like a, uh, uh, uh, an offensive, uh, guy off the bench, a six man who
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comes in and tries to put some offense and you got to have no, you have no conscience. You can't be
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sitting there. You just got to go for it. And that's what Joe Biden always does as he did with
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a reporter at a Christmas party where he wrapped his hands around her and seemingly inched towards
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her breastial regions. As the, her breastial, her breastial region. As a anchor, I would just like
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to point out again, I don't know anything about sports, but I don't think breastial is actually a
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word. No, it's actually should be snoobage. Snoobage is actually the word that you're looking
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for. Thank you very much. I appreciate that rock. Also, you know, an interesting, I thought
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moment in this tournament was Joe Biden reaching over, bringing in close, uh, an Eva Longoria
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inner prime and getting right again in there, sniffing every bit of that L'Oreal or whatever
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the hell she had on. Um, and I think that one did not advance too far in this tournament
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because she looks really good and people understood it. What are your thoughts on that?
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You know, I think he was like, all right, I kind of would have done the same thing if I were Joe.
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Your thoughts on that rock rock well. Yeah. That's an underrated performance from Joe,
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because, uh, a lot of people might've been intimidated by the, uh, by the person on the
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other side of the affection. Uh, but Joe had no such quals. He doesn't care.
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Joe's aggressive. Adults, men, none of it matters to Joe Biden. Now, if we got down to the final four
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yesterday, we had the red dress girl. He was checking for abs or lumps. We have, uh, Chris
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Coon's daughter who was visibly pulling away. And then after she pulls away multiple times,
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he goes in for a kiss. That is something you don't normally see. I'll tell you that much.
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That is persistence. You had the reporter. Can you imagine someone from another party
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groping a reporter on camera? What that would do to your newsfeed? But you didn't even notice this
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one because it was Joe Biden. And then you also had a young, another young, and this one was tough.
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I thought this one picture who, which actually made it all the way to the final two was maybe,
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it just seems like his hand is dangling in a very unfortunate place. But I guess if you believe
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Joe Biden, you know, Rock, we talk about this all the time. Unless it's Pat, you keep mistaking me for it.
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You know, it was your fill-in when you were sick last week. Uh, when you have these sorts of performers,
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when you go to the top, you have people who walk through anything. You have people who do things
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unconsciously. It's not like they're thinking through every moment. They just go out there.
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They just hit the ball. They just pull up and nail the jump shot. That might be Joe Biden this spot.
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I don't know that he's intentionally groping this child, but he's just so good at it. It almost
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happens naturally. It is natural for him. I think that, uh, that when Joe sees a female or a male for
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that matter, and they're in close proximity, he is, uh, his hands just naturally go into action.
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He's had so much training in this field or he has the worst luck in the world. Hands constantly
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just going into private parts of women. And we also have the winner yesterday was named on the
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Glenn Beck program. Uh, this is a, I'm not sure if you have, you're familiar with this program at all.
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Do you have any idea what they do? I have no idea. I don't know. He looked like an insane conspiracy
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theorist. He had all these magnets on the board and he's thrown around and screaming about something.
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I don't know. Uh, but I will say the girl in the red dress being checked for abs slash lumps
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was the winner. And Joe, the, the, the, just the incredible achievement of doing that on camera
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and a public event really, I think is what put that over the top. I think if it happened, uh,
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behind closed doors, uh, you'd say to yourself, well, that is weird. And that person should be put
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in prison, but this to do it in front of cameras over and over again. Wow. What an achievement.
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Our champion in the 2019 Biden bracket, Joe Biden, while talking to the mom,
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gropes his daughter, well, not his daughter, her daughter, I guess. Whoever it was. Right. Uh,
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and I don't know. We did not get any results of the lumps. Uh, we don't know. Hopefully we never
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test results. We'll, we'll, uh, we'll be a return soon. Thank you, Ted Stanley and a rock rock. Well,
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Glenn, I don't recall what time of day it was where my article went live, but I remember it was
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Saturday and within 30 minutes of being published, I had already been called a Nazi, a white supremacist,
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a stupid effing liar. In fact, a long time friend, one of my college roommates actually
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even tested me, uh, texted me and said that he was embarrassed for me and that it was really sad
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that I had gone from a writer with so much promise to a misguided MAGA apologist. I vividly recall
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reading that text message as I did. I wanted to crumble. I wanted to evaporate. I wanted to go back
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in time and never have started work on this book in the first place. I remember specifically thinking
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this is supposed to be a book about a scrappy tech company filled with colorful characters.
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This was supposed to be a book that had nothing to do with politics. What had I gotten myself into?
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And more importantly, what's the point? Why was I going out of my way to try to set a record
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straight for a multimillionaire whose political views I often disagreed with and who had supported a
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presidential candidate that I found repugnant? Why hadn't I just picked another fun, loving,
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beloved topic like Sega and Nintendo, my last book that would make everybody happy and nostalgic to
00:23:44.980
read. And everyone, uh, everyone would, I would earn applause from everyone in the press and the pride
00:23:52.680
from my friends. For several minutes, I sat there feeling sorry for myself, continuing to wonder again
00:23:58.660
and again. What was the point? What was the point of continuing to push my deadline to try to dig
00:24:04.320
deeper into what really had happened? And then for all my extra works met with little more than ire.
00:24:10.580
Seriously, what was the point? And then aided by a refreshing cup of coffee, the answer became
00:24:19.860
overwhelmingly obvious. Because that's what journalism is. You follow the story wherever it
00:24:27.360
takes you and never, however tempting it may be the other way around. You follow leads, you examine
00:24:34.240
evidence, you continue to dig deeper and deeper until you get to it. You get to the truth, not for the
00:24:40.940
praise you think you deserve, not to try to be everybody's best friend. But because however fast or
00:24:47.920
partisan or cynical the world has gotten, the truth still matters, it still matters so much.
00:24:56.800
So, so much that from that moment forward, I knew chasing the truth was more important than whatever
00:25:03.620
it might cost me and my career, especially because I could afford it, both literally due to the success
00:25:10.060
of my first book and figuratively due to my having front row seats to see what Palmer, uh, Lucky Palmer
00:25:17.600
had gone through going from a beloved high tech wonder kin to Silicon Valley's biggest pariah.
00:25:24.620
And my knowing no matter how bad things might happen up for me, they'd never be worse than what
00:25:30.800
he had already gone through. This is from a private letter that I received, uh, from Blake Harris.
00:25:39.940
I got it a couple of nights ago and I asked for his permission to share it. He's with us on the phone.
00:25:45.240
Now the book that he wrote that has cost him his career and his friends and his standing is the
00:25:52.880
history of the future. When he was on the program, what three days ago, his book was 33,000, I think
00:26:00.160
332. Uh, last night I got word that it hit number four. The only exposure that he had had up until this
00:26:09.800
program was this program. No one wanted to support him because of the truth of this book. Half of it
00:26:18.600
is about the miracle of the free market and inventors and, and, and how one kid in a trailer can change
00:26:28.900
the world. Then it takes a political turn and not by his choice. Welcome to the program, Blake Harris.
00:26:37.160
Thank you so much for having me on. And I mean, I texted your producer the other day and, and also
00:26:45.840
wrote in that email that my, my job is literally to come up with words, but I am still sort of
00:26:52.400
speechless. Uh, you know, before we get into it, I really just want to thank you again so much and,
00:26:59.320
and, and your listeners and your viewers, you know, to go from being my book being ranked 33,000 to
00:27:06.220
number three and even surpassed number three, number three. We're going to get it to number
00:27:10.400
one. Blake, you're going to have a number one bestseller. It's obvious it's life-changing and,
00:27:17.220
and, um, beyond it being the greatest feeling in the world, a close second is just the dozens of
00:27:25.640
letters that I've received from your listeners over the past few days. Um, just, just saying,
00:27:31.560
thank you. I mean, like, like, to the point that I made in that email, um, you know, no one was
00:27:37.580
saying thank you and that's not why I do it, but it's certainly nice to hear. Um, and, and to hear
00:27:42.620
it from people who probably have pretty different views than me. Um, that's wonderful because the
00:27:47.680
point who can't, it's irrelevant. It's not about left and right. It's about right and wrong. You know,
00:27:53.100
I tell you, Blake, the, um, the media gets much of America wrong. Um, and, uh, and the left and the
00:28:03.060
right get much of America wrong. We're not as in, we're not as focused on winning as we are living
00:28:13.860
truth and letting the chips fall where they may. We, we are very interested in everybody being free
00:28:20.660
and being able to express who they want to, to, you know, what they want to express and very much
00:28:25.980
into, I mean, I've at the height of my Fox days and for years after one of my key, uh, people on,
00:28:36.620
on, uh, the daily line of production was a San Francisco progressive that voted absolutely every
00:28:45.780
time, the complete opposite of me. And we're good. We're good friends. I appreciated her counsel.
00:28:54.100
I asked for her counsel. I mean, it was an important thing to work and have many different views
00:29:01.920
around me. Otherwise you just get trapped in an echo chamber. And I think people are sick of my way or
00:29:09.700
the highway. Well, that's, that's what I make these conversations even more important and timely is
00:29:17.820
that at the end of the day, Palmer lucky is just a proxy for what is going on with big tech. You know,
00:29:24.800
he is a high profile story, but it's a story that, that so many people have experienced to some degree
00:29:30.580
either. It's happened to a friend, some sort of censorship and, and Facebook's my way or the
00:29:35.380
highway mentality is, is just going to keep getting stronger unless we push back on it. In fact,
00:29:41.620
um, you know, I mentioned on the show the other day that I basically spoken to Palmer lucky, um,
00:29:47.280
every day for the past three years for the book, but, but I still continue to talk to him and let me
00:29:51.840
pull this up. But, you know, yesterday we were just chatting, um, about what is it? It's a Facebook's
00:29:57.880
new content policy. Uh, where is it? Um, yeah, they, they, they posted a new policy,
00:30:04.520
um, to the Facebook newsroom is called, uh, remove, reduce, and for new steps to manage
00:30:09.620
problematic content. Um, and you know, one of the things it says is if a meme doesn't constitute
00:30:14.640
hate speech or harassment, but it's considered in bad case, lewd, violent, or hurtful, it could get
00:30:19.320
fewer views. And so, you know, that that's, first of all, let me, I think I can guess what kind of
00:30:26.560
content is going to be considered, um, lewd, hurtful, um, inappropriate. It's certainly not going to be,
00:30:33.580
uh, equally, uh, no content from liberal content and, and conserved content, first of all. And then
00:30:41.020
second of all, just the fact that it might get fewer views. We don't, we have, we, we, we talk
00:30:45.440
sometimes about shadow banning, um, and basically not even, you know, that's so bad because you don't
00:30:50.940
even know that your content is being banned or, you know, mitigated. And, and Facebook is here
00:30:55.960
basically saying, yep, we've given ourselves the rise to do that. Um, don't worry about it. It's our way
00:31:01.660
or the highway, but we'll say it in a more eloquent manner. So Blake, let me ask you, because you are
00:31:06.460
a liberal, you don't necessarily, I can't even imagine, uh, you know, what you and your friends
00:31:11.440
and you're not real political. So maybe you didn't have, but I'm sure some of your Silicon Valley
00:31:15.280
friends had great opinions of me. Um, and, uh, and you don't need to reinforce that like that, but,
00:31:23.680
um, but, uh, uh, they, they, they were not your biggest fans, but, uh, yeah, I know that.
00:31:31.400
I know that you appreciate, um, you know, I've talked to them about, I didn't share your private
00:31:37.420
email, but, uh, I told them some of the points that you made. And, um, they, they, I guess at the
00:31:42.940
end of the day, what I hope my book does, and it goes to what you just said, that the left and the
00:31:48.640
right don't really have a proper opinion of each other or of the country is I, you know, I talked
00:31:53.200
to my friends on the left and they have such a inaccurate, crazy opinion of the right. And a lot
00:31:59.620
of my friends on the right of the people that I talked to for this book that were on the right,
00:32:03.020
they have such a crazy opinion of the left. And at the end of the day, I think that we're all so
00:32:08.720
much more similar than we believe. And I hope this book in some small way makes you realize, Oh,
00:32:14.500
the other side's not out to get me. They're not bad. They're not evil. They just think of certain
00:32:18.700
things a little bit different. So I agree. So, so that leads me right to what I was going to say.
00:32:24.040
I agree with that. And I went in to meet with Mark Zuckerberg about four years ago,
00:32:29.160
and I really liked him. And I really thought he was being sincere. And he wasn't trying to
00:32:35.160
stifle people's voices and everything else. And I stuck up, stuck up for him. And I took
00:32:40.200
massive amounts of heat for it. But I was willing to do it because I believed him. I no longer believe
00:32:47.660
him. And so there, there, there are these questions that you say, well, wait a minute,
00:32:53.320
you were, they're not out to get us, but yet their policies are going that way to stifle
00:33:00.060
the, the thoughts of people like me or anyone else and make me into a hate monger or my audience into
00:33:07.420
a hate monger. And, and we're all racist and we have no platform. Well, that is that, that is,
00:33:14.920
you know, the, the very definition of an enemy, somebody who is trying to stifle my thought and
00:33:23.800
categorize my thought into something that is not just another opinion, but hateful.
00:33:30.660
Right. And I think that that's what I've come to learn is that there's this compartmentalization
00:33:35.040
that allows for sort of that, you know, double thing to quote George Orwell, where I do believe
00:33:41.580
that Mark would probably pass a polygraph that, that for many of the things he says, and then he
00:33:47.440
just plays this semantic gymnastics where, you know, if he believes, of course, his, his Facebook
00:33:54.720
is a platform for diverse views, but then you take something as simple as abortion, you're pro-life
00:34:01.320
versus pro-choice. And then he would think, oh, well, well, pro-life is not a, just a diverse view.
00:34:08.560
There's probably a better case to be made the other way around. Right. And myself even being
00:34:12.580
pro-choice. But, you know, that, that's kind of what I started to see. Once you do that,
00:34:17.120
I just went down the list of, of conservative perspectives and thought there is not a single
00:34:23.480
one here, whether it's taxes or immigration that, that, that most liberals I know would say is,
00:34:30.780
you know, I disagree with, but that's, that's a fair perspective to have. Most people would
00:34:34.880
just say, most liberals I know would say, well, well, that one's wrong.
00:34:38.980
So, you know, so here's here and, and I'll take a break and let you think on this. And then I want
00:34:43.120
to talk a little bit about the book because I, I started reading it. It's fantastic. Um, but, uh,
00:34:49.340
the, um, the, the one thing that comes to mind is I had dinner last night, uh, with a guy who doesn't
00:34:57.340
agree with her two nights ago that doesn't agree with me on anything. In fact, he was a big enemy of
00:35:02.220
mine, you know, quote unquote. Uh, and we had a very public battle and it's not Van Jones for
00:35:07.740
anybody who thinking it is. Uh, and, um, we had a great dinner. He asked to say, you know,
00:35:15.000
I've seen a change in you and there's been a big change in me. Can, can we just talk? So we did.
00:35:19.560
And we, we discovered, we still don't agree with each other on anything, but we had a really good
00:35:24.320
conversation. Then he wrote to me and he said, I saw you on Hannity. And he said, I can't square the
00:35:29.420
two. He said, how, how are you saying this about the border? Uh, and you know, blah, blah, blah, blah,
00:35:36.140
blah. And what it was, I had to write to him last night and say, look, there's one thing about a
00:35:41.760
welfare state. You want a big welfare state and you want the free market and you want the constitution.
00:35:47.140
That's great. There's another thing about saying, Hey, I want socialism and not Swedish socialism
00:35:52.620
because that's a free market. They're more free than we are. Um, that's just a big, big welfare
00:35:57.340
state with a very free market. Uh, and we can talk about that. But when you're starting to talk
00:36:03.040
about things like banning the free market on healthcare, then I got trouble with you. But
00:36:08.720
if you're a communist who is looking to overturn the constitution and you're trying to do it
00:36:16.680
intentionally through overwhelming the system, I don't have a lot of nice things to say. I mean,
00:36:23.020
I think we should be all be able to agree that there are lines that you just say, I can't cross
00:36:30.200
that. I can't, I can't cross that. If we're going to have a civil society, there are a few things
00:36:36.740
that we have to agree on. And I think that the left is allowed to group everything from a big
00:36:44.380
welfare state to communism together and say, look, it's all the same. No, no, it's not.
00:36:53.020
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:37:09.860
We go to Brad Palumbo, who's with Young Voices and National Review. Um, and Brad's been on us
00:37:15.420
with us before he wrote an op-ed in the Washington Examiner. Christians and LGBT advocates could,
00:37:20.960
should, should come together and support Trump's fight against gay criminalization. Brad joins us
00:37:26.360
now. Hey, thanks for having me on. You bet. So tell me what's happening here, Brad.
00:37:32.600
Yeah, absolutely. So the Asian island nation of Brunei just enacted Sharia law. It went into effect
00:37:39.340
in early April. So they're now one of 72 countries that criminalize homosexual behavior. They make it
00:37:46.000
illegal to be gay. In fact, they even give people the death penalty by stoning. So thankfully,
00:37:52.300
I think this has triggered a bipartisan backlash. But what I really called on everybody in this piece
00:37:57.460
to do is to come together, whether you're personally Christian, religious, conservative,
00:38:01.660
or you're a wild progressive LGBT advocate. Not going to happen.
00:38:04.820
You should all stand up for human dignity. It might not happen.
00:38:07.480
No, I tell you, it won't happen. I went, when this was happening in Russia, remember they started
00:38:13.240
giving, uh, they started denying driver's license to people who were gay in Russia. And then there
00:38:18.200
were the, the, uh, uh, news. The outlawed like PDA in public, remember the anti-PDA law.
00:38:24.740
Right. And it was, when it was voted on, it was, if I'm, if I'm not mistaken, unanimous in,
00:38:28.680
in the Russian, uh, uh, uh, legislative branch. So they, they also, there were rumors that they
00:38:35.000
were just scooping homosexuals up, uh, and they were killing them in one of the
00:38:38.980
provinces or districts or whatever they call them over there. Uh, pardon me?
00:38:44.200
It was in Chichena, right? And I want to actually give you, give you credit on that, Glenn,
00:38:48.180
because I listen to your show all the time. And I remember that you had some activists on,
00:38:51.720
undercover activists from Chichena. And you were out there being, I think, one of the only ones that
00:38:56.500
I was aware of, of religious conservatives standing up for human dignity and standing up for human
00:39:01.780
rights. So I think, I think that you were an example with that.
00:39:04.480
Well, Brad, I will tell you that long before that, three, four years before that,
00:39:09.320
I went and asked for a private meeting with GLAAD, uh, in New York. And I said, look,
00:39:14.240
we're never going to agree on a lot of stuff. We're never going to agree on bakeries and everything
00:39:18.320
else, but we can agree on human rights. And just because you're gay, you should not,
00:39:23.460
you should not lose your driver's license. You should not lose your life. You should not,
00:39:27.500
none of these things. Uh, and we can stand on this and we have to come together.
00:39:32.340
Christians who do not agree with you on what you're pushing and you who don't believe with
00:39:38.700
Christians. We need to come together and say, this cannot happen. I spent a, the one of the
00:39:46.480
most frustrating hours of my life in a meeting. They could not get past the cake. And that bothers me
00:39:54.540
to no end, Glenn. I mean, it just showed me that you're not serious. You're not serious
00:40:00.520
because cake is cake. These homosexuals here can get married and they could go buy a cake
00:40:07.000
someplace else. These people are being killed. Where are your priorities?
00:40:12.660
Yeah. I've never had any trouble obtaining cake. I can tell you that Glenn and Sue,
00:40:18.080
but what it shows me, and I I've been a long time critic of kind of the progressive LGBT movement
00:40:25.280
for exactly this reason, you know, Trump derangement syndrome is real guys. I remember after Trump
00:40:31.220
announced this initiative, uh, to fight the decriminalization of homosexuality worldwide.
00:40:36.280
It's an initiative led by ambassador Rick Grinnell. Um, the progressive reaction to it was kind of
00:40:42.880
ridiculous. I mean, one op-ed and out magazine and LGBT publication, well, it went viral because
00:40:48.520
it bizarrely argued that Trump's plan to decriminalize homosexuality is an old racist tactic.
00:40:54.740
Oh my gosh. People are not discussing these issues in good faith and they're more interested
00:41:00.000
in weaponizing them for political purposes than actually coming together and getting things done.
00:41:04.280
And that's a shame. And, and where has Donald Trump ever, ever given any indication that he was
00:41:13.480
anti-homosexual ever? I think as far as Republican presidents go, he is on issues of gay rights,
00:41:21.920
definitely the best that I'm I've ever known. In fact, I mean, he came into, uh, the oval office with
00:41:27.320
a neutral position on same sex marriage, right? States should have the right to legalize it. He's
00:41:31.780
it's settled law. That's better than what Barack Obama was saying in 2008. So I give him credit on
00:41:36.700
that. Even if he does, uh, in general have some positions, maybe I wouldn't personally agree with
00:41:41.140
on, on homosexual rights. No, but I do think some of his, some of his stances on transgender issues
00:41:48.400
are more controversial, but I think on, on, on gay rights, he absolutely has been probably the best
00:41:53.920
president, um, in modern history is definitely the best Republican. So, so Brad, what do you suggest
00:41:59.920
that people do? So I think that we can all do something to stop these atrocities that are going
00:42:07.280
on in Brunei and going on in 71 other countries, regardless of our partisan feelings. One thing you
00:42:12.560
can do is you can support president Trump's initiative, right? He's already taking diplomatic
00:42:16.880
steps to punish countries that are violating the human rights of gay people. Look at how tough he's
00:42:21.880
been on Iran. Iran is one of the worst countries in the world to be gay. And he's taken all sorts of
00:42:27.160
diplomatic actions against them. Another thing we can do is boycott the American hotels that Brunei
00:42:32.640
actually owns. The Brunei Sultan and Royal Family own a number of hotels in America.
00:42:39.140
So I don't have a list in front of me, but you can actually go to George Clooney's Twitter account
00:42:42.980
and he's tweeted them all out. I wouldn't normally be, I think allies with George Clooney, but Hey,
00:42:47.440
that shows you how we should all be able to come together on this. Another thing I would encourage
00:42:51.180
people to do is to donate to the charity Rainbow Road. A lot of these LGBT charities are extremely
00:42:57.240
political, extremely partisan. Rainbow Road is not one of those. What they do is they help LGBT people
00:43:02.900
escape and flee countries where their lives are in danger from oppressive governments. So most
00:43:07.960
importantly, I think everyone's just got to love thy neighbor, you know, and embrace an attitude
00:43:15.500
I feel like this is a little bit too heavy an issue to ask this question, but do you think the NASA photo
00:43:25.040
Well, I haven't seen the rest of your show yet.
00:43:28.760
Brad, when you see it, if we can get it right, when you, do we have the first photo? Let's bring up the first
00:43:39.060
Oh no, it's closer than I thought it would be though. I mean,
00:43:43.900
It's not right. That, that could be something, but it does still kind of look like a donut.
00:43:48.480
We'll tweet these photos out individually, by the way.
00:43:50.280
We've got to get rid of, I think we have to hit some of the lights.
00:43:53.380
Okay. All right. Brad, thank you so much. Appreciate it.
00:43:57.260
Assistant editor for Young Voices. Would you write down, what is it? Rainbow Road?
00:44:04.020
Would you write that down so we can look into that organization?
00:44:07.380
That's an organization. If that's really what they do, I support that organization.
00:44:13.180
this is the issue of focusing on low hanging fruit, right? Like there's,
00:44:16.960
this is low hanging fruit. The, the, the ability that, you know,
00:44:19.620
the idea that we can step together and say, okay, Donald Trump. Yeah.
00:44:23.860
He's the guy you don't like on the left, but you know what he's doing? He's,
00:44:27.080
he's going after people who are victimizing these groups.
00:44:33.720
instead of arguing about politics here in the United States,
00:44:37.080
here's something that we can all actually be on the same side on.
00:44:39.720
It doesn't raise money though. No, it's the deal. It doesn't get clicks.
00:44:42.700
It doesn't get clicks and it doesn't raise money.
00:44:44.760
I know. And that's, that's, I mean, that is a huge problem. And I,
00:44:48.040
and I, and I don't care if it never gets a click. It's,
00:44:49.960
it's worth talking about because there are a million issues like that where,
00:44:53.920
you know, Arthur Brooks, who's on your podcast this weekend,
00:44:56.560
really good. Awesome. He's a, he's one of my personal heroes.
00:44:59.700
The guy legitimately he's able to do all the things I say in my head.
00:45:04.920
I want to do. He's somehow able to do them, right? You know, right. Yeah.
00:45:08.720
And, uh, he's super smart and he, he, he's run, um, American enterprise Institute.
00:45:13.120
You go watch his Ted talk on, on capitalism and what it's done in the,
00:45:17.040
in the world. Again, it's a Ted talk. This is not a conservative audience.
00:45:19.900
He's able to go to these places where people don't even hear these ideas about how
00:45:23.380
good capitalism is and tell these stories. Um, and you know,
00:45:26.800
he does that really, really well. And one of the ways he does it is that he,
00:45:30.540
there's a million issues in which we can find a common ground and both all be
00:45:35.320
right on. And his point is, instead we are incentivized by the media and,
00:45:40.200
and all of these other, um, things to focus on the slight differences and make
00:45:48.220
we have real differences with people like Bernie Sanders and, and this is,
00:45:51.180
you know, Arthur Brooks is a conservative. He's not arguing.
00:45:53.160
We adopt his policies by any means, but instead of constantly looking for the
00:46:00.260
trying to instead find those things where we can actually persuade people to
00:46:06.540
Yeah. He's, he's a brilliant, brilliant guy. Uh,
00:46:09.480
and he's going to be on the podcast this weekend.
00:46:11.640
That's the Saturday podcast, wherever you get podcasts,
00:46:13.940
make sure you sign up for the Glenn Beck podcast. Uh,
00:46:16.380
you get this show every day. And then on Saturdays,
00:46:18.900
you get an amazing interview with somebody, uh,
00:46:24.920
Arthur Brooks is one of the most hopeful people I think I've ever met.
00:46:28.840
He'll make you believe that, you know, wait a minute, hang on just a second.
00:46:32.260
No freedom might actually win here. Uh, and, and he's right.