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On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by Pat Gray of Pat Gray Unleashed to talk about the tripwire that could have been set off by President Obama, the Ukraine crisis, and the new book that Brad Meltzer has written about his trip to the actual Indiana Jones warehouse.
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Today's program filled with facts that your family needs.
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One, what was the tripwire that happened over the weekend?
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One of the few tripwires that I have placed for my own family on.
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If this happens, it means we're getting close to something big.
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I explain it in hour number one of the podcast.
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Hour number two, we talk all about Ukraine and ESG.
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And then the great Brad Meltzer is on to tell us about his new book.
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But all of the secrets that he has gone through in the in the government archives.
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He tells us about his trip to the actual Indiana Jones warehouse, the real one the government has.
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And I surprise him with Superman's cape all on today's podcast.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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If I could choose one place to be at this moment, it would be right here.
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That's the kind of dedication you get from Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed.
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I'm very excited about the fact that everything's been fixed, except for the things Putin keeps
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Everything would be perfect if it weren't for him.
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Could we play Americans Don't Understand What We're Doing clip, please?
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Never forget what we've accomplished together so far.
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And by the way, the American people just trying to stay above water don't understand this.
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You tell them what the American Recovery Act was, they look at you like, what are you talking
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And they don't understand that Putin has caused inflation.
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It is simply not true about government spending.
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When we're having this discussion, it's important to dispel some of those who say, well, it's
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The government spending is doing the exact reverse, reducing the national debt.
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Government spending is reducing the national debt.
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For instance, honey, we're saving money by spending this money.
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We're saving money by spending this money right now.
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When you're in debt, if you go out and put more things on the credit card, you're actually
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Well, what we did with the money we spent was buy counterfeit money machines.
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And now we're counterfeiting money and paying off debt.
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We have to talk about it because the American people think the reason for inflation is government
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Now, the treasury secretary of the Obama administration, Larry Summers, said it was true.
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One of their lead economists, Furman, also said that it was true.
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But obviously, every conservative economist says this as well.
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I've noticed that he seems a little angry a lot of the time.
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Just kind of like, hey, I like chocolate ice cream.
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It's not true that I don't like vanilla ice cream.
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I mean, he goes from zero to 60 in a heartbeat.
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There's a little bit of the old man yells at cloud thing going on.
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He seems to burst into real visceral anger out of nowhere.
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For a super old guy who's losing cognitive functions.
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And you think about how he's losing it in front of crowds and at the press who has done nothing
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I've heard that he is angry at the drop of a hat a lot.
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And yet they are talking this weekend that he is seriously thinking he's going to run.
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My wife says this to me all the time, speaking of my wife, and she's always like, how can
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like I don't understand how could anyone even think this would be close?
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And it's like, well, we all sat here and complained for four years about the media turning Donald
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I mean, Donald Trump is going to if he runs when it seems like he will, he's going to
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he's got the nomination locked up pretty much on his side in the primary.
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But he's going to face this same treatment and multiple years of him being turned into
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It's not going to be a cakewalk for Donald Trump if he runs.
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I mean, they have we all sat here and day by day cataloged.
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How bad the media was against him and complained about it and said it was unfair and it was
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And they're going to go back and reverse themselves completely to anything negative that that
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that Joe Biden is has done all the whatever they're already trying to do it in real time.
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It's kind of and it's their groundwork is already done.
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I mean, President Trump, if he runs, it's going to it's not going to be a cakewalk.
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And he's going to get he's going to have that same awful treatment from the media.
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And we've seen how difficult that is, even for Donald Trump, who's very good at dealing
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So I would you know, I know this is never going to happen, but I would love, love to
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see President Trump endorse DeSantis and then take the role from Nancy Pelosi.
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Oh, my God, can you imagine he would tear it apart?
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He doesn't have to be in Congress to be Speaker of the House.
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No, all he has to do is the ruling party needs to say we would like him Speaker of the House.
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I mean, because then he is actually responsible for all of the investigations.
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He would be responsible for, yeah, we're going to do a little investigation on Hunter Biden.
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We're going to do a little investigation into into the Democrats that were here and doing
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But he would be the one who would say we're doing it.
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Because that may be a more important role, because if you want to clean out the hornet's
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You have to do it for the president could sign all kinds of executive orders and do, you
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And if the president wants to fire clean house at the State Department, all of you out.
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I mean, this is a bit of a fantasy league we're playing here, but it would be interesting.
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I don't think I don't think Trump would have as much interest in that role.
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If it's good enough for, you know, John Quincy Adams.
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If John Quincy Adams was willing to do it and John Quincy Adams in the end.
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He tried and tried and tried and tried and tried.
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And then he saw this up comer, you know, that just came to Congress and he was like, you
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And he he tutored that young congressman on how to stop slavery.
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And that young congressman became the first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln.
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It's a you know, it's not a joke to be in Congress.
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We we send all these representatives and it's really only Schumer and McConnell and Pelosi
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and maybe McCarthy that are getting together in the rooms and like, yeah, we're going to
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do this and then just send it to everybody to rubber stamp.
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By the way, have you seen all of the things that are in the spending bill that we didn't
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And there wouldn't be any if it weren't for Putin.
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So you really think that it's not printing of money?
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When I scream his name, does that not tell you it's Putin?
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Huddled in a bomb shelter in Kiev, a seven-year-old girl named Emilia Anasovich sang a song in Ukrainian.
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It went viral as people commented on her sweetness, the innocence, and the hope for this little girl.
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In the beginning of the video, you can hear the whole room go quiet as the crowd realizes that she's singing.
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The best of the demon will be coming out of the Ukraine.
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I am happy to report, after six days in an air raid shelter,
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walked for about two days to the border and are now safe.
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Her mother, along with her father, decided to stay behind
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But Dad said, I always knew Emilia was very talented and a sweet angel.
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Currently in the hot spot is the founder and CEO of Mighty Oaks Foundation
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and the co-founder of Save Our Allies, Chad Robichaux.
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Tell us the situation on the ground and what's happening.
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Well, you know, it's pretty dynamic and very different in different parts of the country.
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As you're aware, you know, over in Kiev and the cities more to the east,
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you have the direct kinetic combat with Ukrainian troops, Russian troops,
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as well as, you know, militiaed Ukrainians fighting for their homes and their towns.
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And then over to the west, you still have major cities intact that are, you know, at threat.
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And we've seen yesterday, you know, over at Lviv getting rocketed.
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People are evacuating, not just out of the country,
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but people are evacuating from one dangerous city to a safer place.
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And, you know, a lot of people that are helping, like, say, our allies and other organizations that are helping
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but actually moving people from a dangerous place to a safer place,
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moving medical aid forward, moving supplies forward, and moving people out.
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So, Chad, you've been in special operations for a very long time,
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What, I mean, I can't make heads or tails of this.
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Yeah, you know, we were just in the middle of all the operations we're doing.
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We kind of paused for a second a little while ago.
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I mean, he's, obviously, he had everything the way he would want it.
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If you look at, you know, economically and globally, he was winning.
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He was, America was buying oil from him, even though we all disagree with it.
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He was just in a really good geoeconomic position.
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To gain Ukrainian oil that he won't belt to sell now?
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It just doesn't really make sense to someone who the world has thought was a very strategic thinker
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I mean, everyone you talk to on both sides of the aisle and politically and people around
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the world said, you know, Putin's not a good guy, but he always makes calculated strategic
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The U.S. said that he asked China for military help or at least supplies.
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I'm hearing that he's going to get more vicious.
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Do you have any sense that being there, what's coming?
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It's going to my feel is, and look, it's not just from my experience.
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I'm here on the ground with people, the smartest minds and special operations community.
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I'm here, I'm meeting with the highest level of, from all different governments of the
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world, intelligence agencies and things like that.
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Everyone is in a consensus agreement that it's going to get worse.
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If you watch what he's doing right now, you know, towns like Kiev, he's, he's, he's surrounding
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these towns, holding, destroying infrastructure, roads, bridges, rails, any egress routes out.
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And, uh, inside these cities, while the Russians are holding out a perimeter, they have the
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ability to get resupplied, but those inside can't.
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So medicine, medicine, like, uh, it's something as simple as insulin is, is it, is a debt, is
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that's a debt, that's as deadly as a, as a nuclear weapon to someone with, uh, with diabetes,
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All these, uh, met a lot of children's hospitals have no medicine, no medical aid, no supplies,
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So, and, and, and not only starving them out at night, it's going to get, you know, 15 degrees.
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So we get people freezing to death, particularly the people trying to evacuate, the women and
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So, so what is it you guys are doing on the ground and how can we help?
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So one of the things that we're doing, uh, you know, a lot of, a lot of great NGOs here,
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evacuating people, trying to move supplies, food in, uh, medicine in.
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And what we're doing specifically is we know that the cellular network is going to fail.
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Um, and, and, you know, our experience and not only special operations, but some of our
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teammates are some of the world's best precision recovery, precision rescue experts.
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And we know that the most crucial thing is that communication.
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So we're building communications infrastructure, uh, to make sure that everyone in all these
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cities around Ukraine have the ability to communicate to us, with us.
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So when a sailor network goes down, we can still rescue them.
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We can still move supplies to them and we can still communicate with them.
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So that's our priority mission right now is doing that.
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And then tying that communications network and infrastructure to the ability to build
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a rescue, move medicine forward, move, uh, medical aid forward, and then provide some
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ambulatory services to be able to move people, uh, from places like Kaviv to a safer place
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So that's the kind of thing that me and my team are doing.
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And we're doing that through save our allies and we need all the support we can.
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I think you are, but you guys just made a donation to save our allies.
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So I thank you for that because we can't do it without people like you.
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Well, I, I have to tell you, Chad, we're big fans of, uh, of yours and save our allies.
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We know what you, what you do, uh, and how important it is.
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And we are proud to stand with you and stand behind you.
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If you want to make a donation and be a part of, of saving Ukraine and saving the people,
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literally saving the people, uh, you can give now to save our allies.org that save our allies.org.
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If you forget that, just go to mercury one, uh, market for Ukraine and we'll get it to save
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Mighty, mighty Oaks foundation and save our allies.
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Uh, and they've been, you know, mighty Oaks foundations works with, um, veterans to save
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their lives because of suicide rate is just outrageous.
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And, uh, he's a guy who contemplated it himself and, uh, somebody saved his life and, uh, started
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And these are, these are ex military guys that go in, they know how to help and they're not
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And can you imagine, I mean, you kind of feel like your life was worth something when
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you, if you were bringing insulin to a children's hospital, that's the kind of stuff they're
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Please donate now to save our allies.org doing, they're doing not only great work overseas,
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but the work they're doing here is really, really important.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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So you are, uh, you're one of my favorite people.
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Um, let's start with, uh, let's start with a book and then I have a surprise for you.
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Uh, I always start, you know, with my great fears.
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I think that's what you, when you write a thriller, you got to start with a book.
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And so the opening scene has a character handing his car keys over to a valet at a fancy
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Valet takes the car rather than parking the car.
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He hits a little GPS button on the steering wheel, says the magic words, go home.
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No, no, I'm telling you, but no, this is the key part.
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As he steps into the man's house, the valet sees another man waiting with a gun.
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And when his body goes to our hero, Zig, Zig finds something hidden on it that leads to
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one of the government's most closely guarded secrets.
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Now I just ruined chapter one of the lightning rod.
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But chapter one is, you know, and there's only two chapters in the book, right?
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The funny thing was, I was at an event yesterday in Florida.
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And then obviously the action takes off from there.
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I love that you have great characters that everyone loves and we get to bring back.
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I've taken readers, as you know, I've been on your show talking about the secret tunnels
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We've done the hidden labyrinth below the Capitol.
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And the US government has, I did not know this, almost a dozen secret warehouses hidden
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And they're there to deal with bioterror attacks, whether it's anthrax, whether it's smallpox
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And if there's an attack in Texas, in New York, in California, Idaho, anywhere in between,
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they will have within hours what they call a push package of antidotes right to your
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And I'm like, you're telling me the government has secret warehouses all across the country.
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You better believe I want to go in them, right?
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What you see when you're reading the lightning rod, you're turning the pages, you're trying
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The final section of the book takes place in the warehouses, the final scene of the
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And what you see in those warehouses, I did not make up.
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Well, I'll tell you, it's like a Costco for the end of the world.
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So instead of being like a, you know, in Costco or BJ's, a giant jar of mayonnaise and bug
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boxes cereal, there's obviously, they have everything from, you know, things to deal
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They have everything you can imagine from amphetamines to, they have cobra venom.
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The one thing they all have in common though, which I love, is they all have giant, the
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only thing that they all, every warehouse has is a giant American flag.
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They make it say, and what's great about it is this started, and you're going to love
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this little history lesson for it, is back when nuclear war was the great threat in the
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Cold War, they decided to commission and figure out how are we going to keep the president
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How do we make, if there's a nuclear war, how do we get them to live?
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They create a secret commission called Operation High Point, and High Point is designed to
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figure, it's the beginning of the continuity of government.
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So they make Mount Weather and all these places where Dick Cheney went in 9-11 and where, you
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know, just outside of D.C., it's where the senators go, it's where the president goes, it's where
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What they also commission in Michigan is Operation Low Point, and that's to discuss what happens
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What happens if there's a nuclear war to everyone else in America?
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They make a whole plan, they study it, they say mail carts are going to turn into hearses
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and carry bodies rather than letters, they have giant plans for everybody.
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And the one thing they finally realize, this is all true, you think I'm making it up, I
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It is all, you can look it up, just Google it, and the thing that's so incredible.
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Operation Low Point, Operation High Point, you will see it.
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And you can see this all in the lightning rod, the whole history is in the thriller, because
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obviously I said it all, the warehouses, but one of the things that's really amazing
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And you know what they finally figure out, Glenn?
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If there's a nuclear war, it doesn't matter for you.
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That's why we don't hide under our desks anymore.
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They kind of figure like, we're not going to do this anymore.
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Until this one guy, Stephen Bice, in the 90s, a government employee, has an idea.
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And he says, you know, the threat today is not nuclear war.
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So we should probably have like a warehouse somewhere that houses all the stuff to deal
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with whatever comes out, whether it's hantavirus, whether it's anything you...
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And for the first time in like, I feel like in recent memory, the government listens to
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This is the most positive thing I've heard from our government.
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And in the 90s, they basically say, we should do that.
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And they build not just one, but many of these secret warehouses.
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When anthrax hit after 9-11 in DC and in New York, I know you remember that.
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The reason it didn't get out everywhere is because this is who dealt with it.
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They had push packages within hours to New York and DC.
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My wife was working in the US Capitol at the time.
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She was nine months pregnant with my son at the time.
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And I remember they opened that first thing of anthrax powder and going, oh my God, my kid,
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It was what became the strategic national stockpile, which is now all over the country.
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So did you read this weekend about Switzerland?
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They almost stopped requiring them by law after the wall fell.
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And they thought, you know what, let's just keep it.
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So every house that is built, every apartment building, every office building has a fallout
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shelter in it, or you have to pay a part of your taxes to be part of the closest fallout
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Well, this last week, they decided to activate all of those things again, and they said, go
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into your fallout shelter now and report on what you have, because there are certain things
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that every citizen has to have in their fallout shelter, and it's water and food and everything
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And I thought, I mean, there's a country that has prepared, and I'm actually glad to see
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No, we, that the great thing is, is no one, we have.
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We actually, for once, now, obviously in COVID, everyone's, I'm sure, thinking right now, well,
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I started researching the lightning rod as a book five years ago.
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This, all those, the warehouses at that point, they're just, it's an asterisk in the government.
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They take me to the headquarters, the command center.
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I see where everything's taken care of, then COVID hits.
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What happened is, and it's so easy to Monday morning quarterback and say this, but from
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Trump to Obama to Bush, they've been warned for administration after administration.
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Listen, there could be, there's a likely chance that we could have this kind of natural virus
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occur like this, but everyone bet on the wrong thing.
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And I hate to say it, but Trump doubled down on it.
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But they believed that the only thing that was going to attack us was a foreign government.
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So we were perfectly, and still prepared for that.
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They could have never prepared for anything like this.
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This is where, that's where they were coming from at the beginning of the pandemic.
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They just were appearing from the quote unquote government.
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But it was these secret warehouses that the government has stockpiled with stuff.
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I love your books because they always, they always are accurate and things that I just never
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And usually about American history because you and I are brothers from another mother on
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So listen, my love of this one, I do a lot of work with the USO.
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And I've been, the USO has asked me as a thriller writer to go and tell stories to our troops
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I've been to Kuwait, Omar, Qatar, Turkey, Cuba, you name it.
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I've been to military bases reading to our troops.
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And I'll tell you that it was there I first heard and came on my radar, Dover Air Force Base.
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And you know Dover, even if you don't know the name of it, Dover is where when our service
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members die in service to the country, their bodies come back to Dover.
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And those coffins with the flag on top, that's where you see everyone saluting, that's Dover.
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And that's also where the president's plane is.
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And what's amazing about Dover is the morticians who work there will spend such care on our fallen
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They'll spend 12 hours rewiring someone's jaw, smoothing it over with clay so a family can
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Rebuilding someone's hand from scratch because a mother says, I want to hold my son's hand
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These are the best of the best of us working on the best of the best of us.
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That's the hero of the lightning rod is a hero named Zig who's a mortician at Dover.
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But what I love about Dover and the history lesson I have is this, is that when the space
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shuttle exploded, the astronauts' bodies were brought back to Dover.
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When 9-11 happened, all the Pentagon victims' bodies went to Dover.
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So even our, all of our spies, our CIA spies all around the world, our 007s, their bodies
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go to Dover too, which means Dover's a place filled with secrets.
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I'm like, oh, we're going into Dover and we're going to see what that's like.
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And then the other one, another history lesson for, that I found that I was with the U.S.
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military and they took me to a warehouse that is, it's right out of something you're going
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to love because it's a warehouse filled with art.
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And they don't just have art painted by service members.
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They took me to the room with all of Hitler's art that he painted.
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I'm like, why does the military have all this art in one place?
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The thing that is very flat and the great part is, is you see a giant hole punched in his
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And there was a punched hole in it where a service member just basically either kicked
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it or punched through it and the hole they never repaired, which is beautiful.
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So I'm like, why does the military have all this art?
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They explained to me that since World War I, this is true, the US military has had an
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actual painter on staff that paints disasters as they happen.
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So whether it's storming the beaches of Normandy, whether it's Vietnam, whether it's 9-11,
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And I said, you're telling me everyone's racing in with guns blazing and you've got
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someone racing with paintbrushes in their pockets.
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Zig and Nola, a mortician at Dover and this painter are the heroes.
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And they obviously are both based on the reality of me being able to pull apart this world that
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The painter sits actually where this warehouse is in Port Valois in Virginia.
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But where they really sit is wherever they want.
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If 9-11 happens, they want to paint 9-11, you go to 9-11.
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When the 13 service members came back from Afghanistan, you want to go there?
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That's the thing is you literally submit your paintings.
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And the military said they pick one painter who is selected by the military to be our person.
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I named my character Nola Brown after her to honor her.
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And the fun part is for me is, of course, finding out their secrets.
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So I went to the government and I said, how do you possibly?
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I went to my friend who works as a high-level security guy and one of the great security
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I said, how do I communicate with my friend Glenn when everyone's watching all our emails?
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How do any of us communicate when everyone can see what we write?
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And he said to me, listen, the moment you hit send on your email, I don't care if you
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Anyone who wants a crack will find a way to crack it.
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Now you and I are having a secret conversation.
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We've never put a thing into cyberspace, which is a great idea until General Petraeus,
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the former head of the CIA, used that trick that's in my book, The Lightning Rod, to cheat
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And I said to my buddy, I said, I need a new trick.
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So what he gave me in the book, you'll see something called Black House.
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Now here's the history that you're going to love.
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We all know the White House, of course, is the White House, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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When Richard Nixon famously recorded himself and his staff without telling anybody, every
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staffer in the White House realized, oh my gosh, all of our stuff could be recorded.
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They all start figuring out where can we have a private conversation in this place if everything's
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And Black House moves generation by generation.
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It is just a code name that someone gave me, right?
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And it's basically George Stephanopoulos supposedly did it during the Clinton era in a gym.
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Dick Cheney, maybe he sat in his, you know, homemade man size safe and had kind of God knows
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But every, there's always a place in the White House where all the staff knows this is where
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You will see in this book what Black House really is and the trick he gave me, I did not
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I mean, if you don't want to read this book now, you're dead.
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James Patterson said, you can see the things on the back.
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James Patterson said that it was his favorite book by Brad Meltzer so far.
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And the guy who created Reacher said that Nola Brown, our hero, was like the girl with the
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dragon tattoo, one of the best modern creations in fiction.
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She does not, she doesn't care about anything I write, but my gosh, the fact that James Patterson
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She finally was like, finally, Brad, you did some good.