A woman whose daughter was kidnapped by Boko Haram has flown in from Africa to talk to an audience in Dallas, TX about her daughter's abduction by the Islamic extremists. Also, Project Veritas takes on Google, and Brad Thor talks about his new book, "Backlash."
00:06:43.700Even though it's true, that presents an unfair picture.
00:06:48.980And so, the trusted sources that they found, what a surprise, the trusted sources agree with the, with the extreme liberals, uh, in, uh, in Google headquarters.
00:07:04.100And they are social justice warrior sites.
00:07:08.960They are the ones determining what's true and what is fair.
00:07:13.540So, when you're searching for men can, men can what?
00:09:20.460You search for something and you're watching, you're going to get a whole bunch of suggested titles from CNN and MSNBC and everything else.
00:09:27.760You won't find Dave Rubin in that list.
00:09:30.680But if you look for Dave Rubin and you're watching a Dave Rubin video, YouTube is going to suggest a lot of MSNBC and CNN.
00:09:39.360Because they want to expand your mind.
00:09:43.280And, you know, if you're watching this, well, you should probably watch a little of this, too.
00:09:54.220Now, I'm going to come back and I'm going to play the audio of the executive at Google explaining all of this and why they are doing it.
00:10:07.560And it is absolutely incredible how cavalier they are sitting at a restaurant just openly talking about manipulation and why we'll do that in one minute.
00:10:27.560I'm going to tie all of this stuff together throughout the show today.
00:10:34.240But I want to just start with you're being manipulated in real time right now by Google and Facebook and all the rest.
00:10:43.480We want to concentrate on Google because this has ramifications for the next election.
00:10:49.400And I don't know if anybody in Washington is even going to do anything about it.
00:10:53.440Here is audio cut one of Project Veritas sitting down with Jen Janai.
00:11:04.440She is the head of Responsible Innovation for Google.
00:11:09.460Their definition of responsible is much different than my definition of responsible.
00:11:15.480This is the sector that monitors and evaluates the responsible implementation of artificial intelligence and machine learning technologies.
00:11:28.140Listen to what the woman in charge of a responsible implementation at Google says they're doing.
00:12:18.880Accusations on our end of fairness is that we're unfair to conservatives because we are choosing what we define as incredible news sources.
00:12:28.680And news sources don't necessarily overlap with conservative sources.
00:14:36.800Like there are the same people who voted for the current president do not agree with our definition of fairness.
00:14:45.220Okay, so what she said here is, okay, so we have to draw a line in the sand because no one was drawing a line in the sand, but we're a big company.
00:14:53.840So we decided we will say it, but we understand that what we're looking to do is be fair to marginalized groups.
00:15:03.180And those marginalized groups do not include any of those who are in power.
00:15:09.420And we were surprised because how we define fairness, we thought everyone would agree, but not everybody agrees on fairness, especially those who have voted for this current president.
00:15:21.120I go back to the first cut where she says we all got screwed over.
00:15:48.880It makes it, it makes it a little more interesting now to think that we all believe that if somebody like Elizabeth Warren, you know, is the candidate, it's going to be a slam dunk.
00:16:03.140But not necessarily, not if you have Google and Facebook as part of your campaign, not that they're taking any money or colluding.
00:16:14.580But if you have people at Google and Facebook manipulating the algorithms, so you're only going to find things that agree with whoever the Democratic candidate is and makes the Republican candidate look bad, you don't have a prayer.
00:16:34.960Especially when it comes to deep fakes and audio deep fakes.
00:16:43.920I'm going to show you a little later on in the program exactly what's happening with deep fakes and audio deep fakes.
00:16:52.740We are at the point, and this should be the number one conversation in the world today.
00:17:00.440What happens when you cannot believe your eyes or your ears and the Encyclopedia Britannica is being changed all the time?
00:17:14.080So when you're looking through the Encyclopedia Britannica, all of a sudden, it's steering you to go find something else because it doesn't agree with your premise and your point of view.
00:17:32.280It is only going to get much, much worse.
00:17:37.140They are now taking and manipulating you.
00:17:43.080They admitted it here with Project Veritas, but they also have documents coming out of Google where they are explaining how they are steering people away from people like Dave Rubin.
00:17:58.160Now, Dave Rubin is really very, very effective because he's a former liberal.
00:18:05.400He was with the Young Turks for the love of Pete.
00:18:37.700And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray Unleashed.
00:18:41.860His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast.
00:18:45.360Brad Thor, good friend of the program, a guy who has done work for Homeland Security, their analytic red cell unit.
00:18:56.140He's lectured to law enforcement about over the horizon future threats.
00:19:00.620He has been the keynote speaker for the National Tactical Officers Association annual conference.
00:19:07.100Ronald Reagan's 100th celebration, the Young Americans Foundation, supporter of the Heritage Foundation.
00:19:13.420He has spoken at their national headquarters on the need for robust missile defense.
00:19:18.440He also is a guy in 2008 that shadowed a black ops team in Afghanistan to reach to research his thriller, a really good one called The Apostle.
00:19:27.360His latest is out today, and it is called Backlash.
00:20:07.360And so you nailed it when you said that what I do is faction, where you don't know where the facts end and the fiction begins.
00:20:13.600So I wanted to do something with my main character, who was a Navy SEAL and gets recruited to do some of the nation's most dangerous business that we don't want our fingerprints on.
00:20:23.800And this guy has been a thorn in the side of the Russians time and time again.
00:20:28.540And they decide they're going to come to the United States.
00:20:30.880They're going to put a bag over his head, drag him back to Russia, interrogate him.
00:20:34.780And then they are saving the honor of killing him for the Russian president.
00:20:38.040He's going to put a bullet in Scott Arvath himself.
00:20:41.140And so when I did the research for the book, I wanted to know two things.
00:20:45.000Number one, I wanted to know what the training was like for our soldiers and our intel operatives in what's called SEER school.
00:20:51.800That's an acronym for survive, evade, resist, escape.
00:20:58.300Number two, I was fascinated by a little-known program that Barack Obama's administration set up, and President Trump kept going and actually has added a lot more meat and muscle to.
00:21:10.000And there was a position called the Special Presidential Envoy for Hostage Affairs.
00:21:15.040This is the gentleman or lady, it's currently a gentleman, who's in charge of setting the machinery of the United States government, its military, to absolute overdrive if an American gets taken overseas.
00:21:26.400And I said, if you had a guy like Harvath, what would happen?
00:21:29.160He said, we would move heaven and earth in the first 48 hours to apply such withering pressure on whoever took them that they would beg us to take the person back.
00:21:37.400And I said, what if you didn't know where he was or the people who took him were denying it?
00:21:42.220He said, well, we'd still apply the pressure, but now we're getting the SEAL teams involved, Delta's getting involved, and that's the kind of neat facts behind this book.
00:21:50.520You're going to get short, crisp cinematic chapters, a great white-knuckle thrill ride, but you're going to learn a couple of real-life things in backlash that just absolutely blew me away when I did the research.
00:22:00.720Okay, so I want to stop here and go into this, because it seems like the United States, if somebody is taken, it seems like we don't really do much.
00:22:11.140Like, for instance, North Korea, we had somebody taken, a citizen, and he came back and died right after.
00:22:20.340I mean, that wasn't a kidnapping, that was an arrest, but can you give me any real-life examples of when this has happened,
00:22:30.900and we can point a finger to, holy cow, the United States doesn't screw around when a citizen is taken?
00:22:37.140Well, these things are interesting, because you are doing diplomacy.
00:22:43.620Let me tell you what the war room is like and where the war room is that was set up and still exists.
00:22:47.900It's at FBI headquarters in Washington, D.C., and it has desks all over the place, the clocks with the different time zones,
00:22:54.520the television monitors, all the kind of stuff you would expect from, like, a high-speed kind of Clancy movie sort of a thing.
00:23:01.360At each one of these desks is a representative from the major branches of government.
00:23:05.360So you've got the Treasury Department, you've got people from the Defense Intelligence Agency in the Pentagon, the NSA, all this stuff.
00:23:13.880And so what they are doing is they're all sharing information, trying to find pressure points.
00:23:18.020So in a case like Otto Warmbier that you were talking about in North Korea, there was the continued diplomatic –
00:23:24.200I cannot say that they looked at military options, because I did not discuss that with them, nor would they reveal that if they were –
00:23:30.440but knowing what I know about this system, I'm sure they were looking for a way –
00:23:34.120if they could pinpoint where Otto Warmbier was and they could have gotten him out, that might have been in consideration.
00:23:39.180But in this case, he wasn't necessarily taken hostage.
00:23:45.900We could air quote around due process, but he had committed a crime that wasn't in – that wasn't in dispute.
00:23:52.340The reason this group was set up was in the aftermath of the murder of the journalist James Foley, who was beheaded by ISIS.
00:23:58.520And our inability to get him back before they could kill him, that's the kind of stuff that the special presidential envoy for hostage affairs
00:24:05.720and the fusion cell at the FBI exists for.
00:24:08.380Okay, so the book starts with this operation by Russia in the United States.
00:24:18.020I want to ask you, how much did what happened over in England play into this story?
00:24:26.040Because they seemed – Russia seems ballsy to where they're doing stuff that we would have – they would have never done during the Cold War.
00:24:54.820And not only what the Russians – look at what the Russians did in the U.K. twice, where they went after Levenko with the – what was it, polonium in the tea earlier than the Scripnol poisoning.
00:25:08.460But they also, in Iraq, several years ago, a Russian diplomat was taken hostage, and the Russians sent over a special team to Iraq.
00:25:17.220They figured out the group that took them.
00:25:19.320They found a relative of the head of the group, and they started slicing off body parts on that relative and mailing them to the guy in the group,
00:25:27.640saying you're going to get them back a finger at a time, an ear at a time.
00:25:30.400And they basically wrapped this Russian diplomat in a baby blanket and brought him back and laid him gently on the steps of the embassy and gave him back to the Russians.
00:25:38.180They don't screw around, but if they did something like this, Glenn, it would be unquestionably an act of war.
00:25:44.100So I looked at this and said, how emboldened are they?
00:25:46.480You know, they went into Georgia under George W. Bush.
00:25:49.880They took the Crimean Peninsula under Barack Obama.
00:25:54.580And now, with everything happening with Iran and all that kind of stuff, they are trying to drive a wedge between us and our European allies.
00:26:58.660You talk about the Wagner Group, which we've heard a lot about.
00:27:01.940If you pay attention, it's the Russian private military contractor.
00:27:06.680They were operating in Ukraine, the Little Green Men, and then also in Syria as well.
00:27:16.900Talk a little bit about the use of the Wagner Group and their love affair, apparently, with Nazis.
00:27:28.860Yeah, so it's interesting because private military corporations are illegal in Russia, yet the Wagner Group exists.
00:27:37.860And it's interesting because it was started by a former Spetsnaz, Russian Special Forces colonel, whose call sign was Wagner after the composer, who was one of Hitler's favorite composers.
00:27:50.060And these guys subscribe to a form of – it is a hybrid Nazi ideology and kind of pagan religion that grew up in Russia during the fall of the Soviet Empire.
00:28:26.820And I think you may have – you guys talked about this, Glenn.
00:28:30.600I don't know, was it eight months ago there was that big bombing where there were like 150, 200 Russian mercenaries that were killed in Iraq?
00:28:44.240So that's 150 less of these bad actors on the world stage.
00:28:47.800And these are also the guys that allegedly were flying into Venezuela to prop up the government there as it looked like Maduro was going to fall.
00:28:55.560So as you've done so much work for this book, the name of the book is Backlash.
00:29:10.320I mean, it's just a thrill ride all the way through.
00:29:14.120And his latest, again, is backlashed out in stores today.
00:29:18.000You can get it on Amazon, et cetera, et cetera.
00:29:20.680As you look into, for instance, you have the president – I don't want to give anything away – but you have the president applying pressure through finances.
00:29:31.420And let's leave it at that because I don't want to give anything away.
00:29:34.260But should we use more of those tactics on Putin?
00:29:39.540Oh, absolutely I think we should, considering how much money Putin has squirreled away around the world, how much he's stolen from the Russian people.
00:29:51.340And you'll remember that for the longest time, Bill O'Reilly was saying we ought to end credit card transactions there.
00:29:57.200We ought to cut off the ability to do the swift transactions with bank accounts and that we should cripple them by not letting credit card transactions go through over there, which was a brilliant, brilliant idea.
00:30:07.500There are a lot of tools left on the table that we could still be applying to Russia.
00:30:13.360And, you know, I think if they try anything, if we even see a Russian tuning in to an American debate or coverage of the next election, I think we ought to drop the hammer on them.
00:30:27.440I don't think we should have any hesitancy to drop it.
00:30:30.160And I think President Trump, it would be an excellent move if he came out and directly said to Russia, if we even think you're sniffing around in the next election, that's it for you.
00:30:40.560We know they're going to. We know they're going to. Are we doing enough?
00:30:46.380Is our government even really just like which, you know, last week we were just flicking the lights over there with their power grid system.
00:30:55.020Right. Come out. Right. To say. And that's not only the election stuff, too.
00:30:59.860That's concern about other stuff. You know, we're looking for one thing.
00:31:04.080You guys have talked about Huawei on the show before and the whole 5G thing and what's coming up.
00:31:08.900And it's interesting because we don't have we're not moving fast enough with 5G.
00:31:14.220The Chinese are. The Russians are, interestingly enough, moving with their own 5G network.
00:31:19.740It sucks. It really sucks. But everything in Russia sucks.
00:31:23.220And what they're doing here is they're using their propaganda outfit, Russia Today, to start sowing seeds of fear in American viewers.
00:31:33.060There's anybody that's listening to you. I believe in the First Amendment.
00:31:37.100I also believe you should never, ever turn on Russia Today.
00:31:39.800It is straight up propaganda. And they're running stories telling Americans that 5G networks actually cause cancer and birth defects in children and so on and so forth,
00:31:48.700because they want to create a groundswell against 5G here so that Russia may be able to overtake us in this space.
00:31:55.360They're bad actors. So anything we can do, and these are not our friends, the Obama people were completely, completely wrong.
00:32:02.060And they've even come out, several of them, to say, yeah, we were wrong, to say to Mitt Romney, the 80s called and they want their foreign policy back.
00:32:07.860But a lot of the Obama administration was wrong on a lot of stuff.
00:32:11.460You look at Iran. Had they backed the Green Revolution?
00:32:14.060And at the time, years ago, you and I were talking about this, that you and I said it made no sense because it took two weeks for a tepid statement from Barack Obama.
00:32:24.860But within 24 hours of the dictator-in-waiting in Honduras being ousted by the Congress and exiled from the country,
00:32:30.840within 24 hours Obama was supporting him and saying it wasn't right and they need to let him back in the country,
00:32:38.780We said, why is he not siding with the young people in Iran?
00:32:42.360This is a chance for us to see democracy there.
00:32:44.900Now, years later, we know it's because he was writing love letters back and forth with the mullahs trying to complete the Iran deal.
00:32:51.120So there's always something going on behind the scenes.
00:32:53.760But a lot of what the current administration and President Trump is facing are the absolutely terrible decisions of the Obama administration.
00:33:01.480So this is why foreign policy, getting it right, is important because it reverberates well past the end point of a particular president's time in office.
00:33:10.760Brad Thor, as always, we'll talk to you on Friday.
00:33:13.040I think you're coming into the studio, so I'd like to spend some time with you talking a little bit more about, you know,
00:33:17.520how we've handled Iran, what you think is coming our way, et cetera, et cetera.
00:33:22.560But today we wanted to get you on because your book is out today, Brad Thor Backlash.
00:33:27.280It's a great thriller from a guy who is part of the tribe.
00:43:59.720So you're going to have a harder time finding them.
00:44:01.980They also are the biggest ad spaces in the world.
00:44:07.220Now, number one and number two, Facebook and Google, though, they control almost all of the advertising now.
00:44:12.900So when Lila Rose from Live Action, which is a pro-life group, was told she could no longer advertise, that's a problem.
00:44:25.000Because if your algorithmic fairness system already takes people out who are pro-life, you're putting them behind a ghetto wall.
00:44:37.840Then you're saying, oh, by the way, because you're not good for our community, we also are not going to take any of your advertising.
00:44:46.540So now you can't even buy your way into stand in front of the public because you're not trustworthy.
00:44:56.420So as local speech is destroyed, as our newspapers and our television stations locally are destroyed,
00:45:04.300as our news sources are destroyed, we've looked at the Internet as a way to have free speech and to be able to, you know, carve your own way through.
00:45:13.580But the algorithms now for these giant companies are steering you.