The Glenn Beck Program - February 23, 2026


Best of the Program | Guests: Brandon Darby & Lue Elizondo | 2⧸23⧸26


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Brandon Darby talks about what's happening in Mexico, and it's really, really good and a little bit frightening. Also, how is somebody who we did not even know their name 24 hours ago now the one guy everyone wants to talk about? How we can understand what happened with America, the Gold Game, and UFOs.

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00:00:16.600 What the hell is happening with Mexico?
00:00:19.140 Don't let your kids go for spring break.
00:00:21.980 Brandon Darby talks about what's happening in Mexico
00:00:24.780 and it's really, really good
00:00:27.020 and a little bit frightening as well.
00:00:28.840 Also, how is somebody who we did not even know their name 24 hours ago
00:00:34.420 now the one guy that everyone wants to talk about?
00:00:38.120 How we can understand what happened with America, the gold, and the hockey game.
00:00:44.980 And UFOs.
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00:02:53.680 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:03:06.460 Brandon Darby is joining us.
00:03:08.280 He is the editor-in-chief for Breitbart, Texas.
00:03:11.660 He is also Breitbart Cartel Chronicle co-founder and director.
00:03:15.620 He was on with me in April, and in April, we talked about this particular cartel and the
00:03:24.640 head, and he said, the United States isn't serious unless we get this guy, but this guy
00:03:31.060 is protected by the Mexican Secretary of Defense.
00:03:37.260 Well, apparently that has changed.
00:03:41.880 So we wanted to bring Brandon on.
00:03:43.840 First of all, Brandon, you've been reporting on this for years and years, if not decades.
00:03:49.520 Did you ever think this day would come?
00:03:52.680 No.
00:03:53.440 And Glenn, thank you for having me on.
00:03:56.280 Good morning to you and your listeners.
00:03:58.200 I am super excited.
00:04:00.120 I did not expect this.
00:04:02.740 I believed the Trump administration, when they were warning Mexico, they said basically, hey,
00:04:10.020 you're going to get this guy, you're going to take this seriously, or we're going to take
00:04:13.600 it seriously without your consent.
00:04:17.620 And I thought that that's probably what would end up happening.
00:04:21.560 I did not expect Mexico to play ball and actually help. 0.99
00:04:27.340 No.
00:04:28.720 So why?
00:04:29.780 What do you think the president said?
00:04:32.100 Because I don't think the president of Mexico is a fan of America, and certainly not a fan
00:04:37.400 of Donald Trump's.
00:04:38.680 What did he say, do you think, that got them to act on this?
00:04:44.000 Because this is a really big deal.
00:04:46.780 Right.
00:04:47.220 So I think my best estimation at this point of what happened was that the Mexican president,
00:04:56.680 Gloria Scheinbaum, knew about this, but that the rest of her cabinet did not.
00:05:02.960 I know that roughly, was it probably February 15th or so, Navy SEALs began to train a group
00:05:11.460 within the Mexican army, Sabana, for a specific training that no one, it was obscure, no one
00:05:19.340 knew what it was about.
00:05:20.840 Well, it turns out this is what it was about.
00:05:22.740 So I know that those Mexican military folks were sequestered, so their phones or any mechanism
00:05:30.600 they had to communicate with the outside world was taken from them, and they did this operation.
00:05:37.840 The Mexican government did this operation.
00:05:40.000 So I think that it's very well documented, the current Secretary of Defense for Mexico
00:05:46.920 being, you know, heavily connected with El Mencho.
00:05:52.640 So obviously, you know, they didn't know.
00:05:56.520 So it was kept very secret.
00:05:58.520 There is a possibility that this was done, you know, without the approval of the Mexican president,
00:06:04.760 but she is kind of running a victory lap so far, so I don't think that's the case.
00:06:10.100 I think it really is a situation, you know, if we look at the history, every time the U.S.
00:06:16.840 has found El Mencho and tried to work with counterparts in Mexico to get him, El Mencho was tipped off
00:06:24.140 and was told, hey, they're about to get you, so he would be missing or he would be gone.
00:06:29.460 And this time, that did not happen.
00:06:31.300 This time, it was kept close to the chest, and they were able to pull it off, and now he's gone.
00:06:41.080 I question the narrative that El Mencho and two others were, you know, injured
00:06:46.960 and then were being flown to Mexico City, and they all happened to die on the helicopter ride to Mexico City, right?
00:06:55.000 Like, I question that narrative.
00:06:56.680 I think that he was probably going to die, you know, he was probably killed.
00:07:02.420 They probably decided, like, hey, if we let this guy, you know, in our system, he is so connected that he's going to get out.
00:07:10.220 He's going to be able to get out and kill our families.
00:07:12.900 So I think they killed him.
00:07:14.560 That's the most likely scenario.
00:07:16.960 And now we are in a very different stage.
00:07:21.400 As I've said before, if someone this powerful, the top of the top, can be taken out,
00:07:30.120 it tells everyone in Mexico who's involved in cartels that they can also be gotten
00:07:36.940 and that they better keep it in check, or they might be.
00:07:41.700 What does it mean for the president of Mexico?
00:07:45.080 Because she could have done this herself long ago.
00:07:47.760 This obviously is she's kowtowing to Donald Trump, or not.
00:07:52.820 Absolutely.
00:07:53.700 Well, so if you look at the, you know, the social media statements of Mexico's leading politicians
00:08:03.180 and Mexico's leading journalists, you know, they're doing everything they can to take credit away from Trump
00:08:11.420 and the Trump administration and the Trump administration's approach.
00:08:14.480 They're saying that this was, you know, another person in the administration who pushed this.
00:08:20.760 Trump had nothing to do with it, but that's not true.
00:08:23.140 What happened is that-
00:08:25.480 Let's let them believe that's true.
00:08:27.980 Yes, whatever they want to say.
00:08:30.140 And I don't understand.
00:08:31.820 I'm going to be honest with you.
00:08:32.860 It's very difficult for me to understand the liberal mind,
00:08:35.820 even though once when I was younger, I was one of them.
00:08:39.460 I, sometimes I, they still just blow my mind with the, the way it blows my mind, right?
00:08:47.520 The logic sometimes blows my mind, but-
00:08:49.500 Yeah, the mental gymnastics.
00:08:50.480 Okay.
00:08:51.080 The gymnastics blows my mind that we, you know, folks like you and I try to,
00:08:55.600 and our movement holds us accountable to the intellectually consistent, right?
00:09:00.900 That's okay.
00:09:01.620 They do it differently.
00:09:03.200 That's fine.
00:09:03.760 Um, that's their business, but, um, you know, what happened here is that Trump began to hit
00:09:09.680 narco boats, showing that he was willing to do things that had not been done prior.
00:09:15.180 Trump took out Maduro.
00:09:16.920 Trump took, I mean, he went down the line and, and, you know, Pete Hegseth and others in the
00:09:21.560 administration openly warned Mexico that you will either help do this or we will do it unilaterally
00:09:29.200 because it affects our country.
00:09:30.720 Um, what Mexico began to do was to hand us, you know, to, they started to crack down on
00:09:37.280 cartels as a whole, and they started to hand us significant figures, um, who we wanted.
00:09:43.720 However, if you looked at it, the vast majority of them up until about a month ago, maybe two
00:09:49.600 months ago, were all of the, uh, all of the opposition and all of the competition to cartel
00:09:55.940 Jalisco and El Mencho. So, so in an effort to appease us and look like they were taking it
00:10:01.120 seriously, they were actually still helping El Mencho. They were protecting him and they were
00:10:05.860 taking out his adversaries as proof that they were serious about cartels. And a couple of months
00:10:11.700 ago, we started to see them going after cartel Jalisco. They took his number three guy, they,
00:10:18.600 and they gave him to the U S quickly because the last time he was arrested, he was let go,
00:10:23.280 right? Immediately a judge let him go. And, um, uh, so what happened was that they realized that
00:10:31.020 you're either going to do this and help us or, or the U S is going to do it alone. And the political
00:10:36.040 fallout will be horrible for you. If the U S takes unilateral military action in their country
00:10:41.360 and they decided to play ball and, and to actually roll the dice and go for it. And that's what they've
00:10:47.840 done. What is the fallout for us here in America? Cause they have operatives all over the United States
00:10:57.780 all over. Um, well, I, I think that what we have to look at is we have to go back historically, um, to
00:11:06.700 what happened with other cartels, right? Even though the other cartels did not have the level of power
00:11:12.100 and influence that El Mencho had. Um, but what happens is you have like the Gulf cartels who 0.55
00:11:18.080 operates, uh, South of Texas along the, you know, the, the Gulf of America, I call it. Some people
00:11:25.000 say Gulf of Mexico still they're antiquated, but I say Gulf of America. Um, you know, that, that cartel
00:11:32.120 had, had centralized power of Mexico's central government. They had state power, all types of
00:11:38.800 power. Uh, we began to decapitate them and decapitate them every time a leader popped his head
00:11:44.500 up. And what you've been, you're left with is 10 to 15, you know, glorified gangbanger units who
00:11:52.000 really have no, they no longer have central power over the central government of Mexico. They no longer
00:11:57.920 really even have power over the state that they live in, Tamaulipas in Mexico. They just have county
00:12:04.240 power and little, they're, they're glorified gangs and they still call themselves the Gulf cartel,
00:12:09.540 but they're so weakened at this point, um, that, that, uh, they really don't have the type of power
00:12:17.180 they've had historically. And that's, what's probably going to happen here. Uh, there's going to be a lot
00:12:22.140 of, an uptick in violence, which liberals will blame on Trump, even though they're not crediting him
00:12:28.100 with taking out the guy, right? That's what I meant by mental gymnastics. They'll blame the violence on
00:12:32.940 Trump, um, and on, on the United States, but there will be an uptick in violence as four or five
00:12:38.680 different groups fight for power and fight for control. Uh, they'll become factionalized and
00:12:44.220 then, uh, we'll take out the heads of those groups and then they'll become even, you know,
00:12:50.640 even more fractionalized, fractional and factionalized. And ultimately they'll have no,
00:12:55.820 they'll no longer have central power over Mexico's, uh, government and, uh, they'll no longer have
00:13:02.280 that they'll have regional power and then we'll take them out. And then the next thing, you know,
00:13:06.420 they'll, they'll be reduced to having power over their block, you know, their street. Um, that's
00:13:12.300 the goal. Uh, so the effects of this will be long. I do not think we'll see a lot of acts of narco
00:13:18.100 terrorism within the U S because of this. I don't know that, but I don't think so. I think that the,
00:13:25.140 the statement made is that it doesn't matter how powerful you are. Like if, if you put yourself
00:13:32.060 in a position to become the focus of the United States government, we can and will get you.
00:13:39.100 And, uh, I think that this results in a lot of folks trying to keep their heads down
00:13:43.440 and not being as ostentatious as El Mencho was when he was alive.
00:13:48.200 Are we, um, are we going to see, uh, transformation of Mexico? Do you think they have the stomach to 0.97
00:14:04.980 finish this job or is somebody else just going to step in?
00:14:08.380 Well, I, I think that's going to, it's a great question, Glenn. I think that's going to depend
00:14:14.760 on what we do in this country. Um, you know, if the next time we get a leader, if that leader is
00:14:23.080 very left-leaning and, uh, soft on, on, um, you know, soft on, on drugs and soft on crime. And if
00:14:32.040 that leader is also soft on illegal migration, right, if that leader is soft on asylum claims
00:14:37.860 and they allow tens of millions of people to show up at our border as they did in the last
00:14:42.560 administration, um, keeping in mind that several of these cartels, uh, have business models that
00:14:50.920 are, that are primarily based on asylum claimants, right. And on illegal immigration, uh, they were
00:14:56.920 making as much or more like the, like various factions of the Gulf cartel and Losetas was making
00:15:02.340 as much or more from the people showing up at our border claiming asylum than they were making from
00:15:07.360 drugs. So, uh, if, if we do things in this country that increase the pull factors and increase the
00:15:14.280 economic engines for various Mexican cartels, then we're going to be in trouble. But if, if we continue
00:15:22.000 to say in the best case scenario, right, say that, uh, we have J.D. Vance and he continues with the
00:15:29.680 Trump policies and the Trump focus on Mexican cartels, uh, I think that we, we have a, a, a very
00:15:37.020 good shot at, at Mexico becoming a better place, which is very important for us because it affects us
00:15:43.960 directly, right. You got to keep in mind, you know, like Americans didn't want fentanyl and then
00:15:49.840 El Minchil began to manufacture fentanyl, right. El Minchil began to manufacture fentanyl and then the 0.94
00:15:57.060 desire for, for more of it, right. It was, it was a push issue, not a, not a demand issue. Um,
00:16:06.100 there's obviously that's a complicated issue, but, but, uh, it was more of a push and not,
00:16:11.760 not so much a demand that caused the supply. It was the supply that pushed the demand.
00:16:16.260 And, uh, when it came to that, so it really just depends on what we do, but I, I can tell you
00:16:22.860 this, if Mexico were going to become a better place, if our Southern neighbor was going to get
00:16:28.940 healthier, this is exactly what was required for that to happen. So this isn't the, the armistice,
00:16:36.060 this isn't the end of the war. Uh, this isn't, you know, Germany surrendering, but this is definitely,
00:16:41.680 yesterday was definitely D day, right. And we definitely, uh, took, took, took land and we
00:16:48.660 definitely established a beachhead. And so, um, I am very hopeful. Um, I think this shows that the
00:16:56.360 current Mexican president is actually trying to work with the U S no, I don't think she would have
00:17:01.680 if it weren't for Trump's pressure, but regardless of that, this shows a serious step, um, in the right
00:17:10.400 direction, uh, Brandon 45 seconds left, talk directly to anybody who's thinking spring break
00:17:17.900 is going to be great. I'm going to Mexico, no matter what. Um, I would not allow my, my, my 0.89
00:17:23.940 children, uh, to go to Mexico right now. Um, I would not allow my children to go to even the safe 1.00
00:17:32.240 areas like Cancun or Puerto Vallarta, cause they're obviously not safe, but keep in mind, those are
00:17:37.440 economic engines for cartels. As they fight each other, they're going to try to hurt each other's 0.91
00:17:42.460 economic engines. And you just might find yourself or your child or your college student, uh, caught
00:17:48.620 in crossfire. I would not do that right now. I would wait a bit on going to Mexico.
00:17:54.720 Thank you so much. Appreciate it, Brandon. We'll talk again. Great job on calling this one. You bet.
00:17:59.920 Bye-bye.
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00:19:09.420 So last night was fabulous or yesterday was fabulous when we found out that the U.S. hockey team won the gold.
00:19:20.240 Let me give you a couple of, uh, couple of scenes, uh, from this. First of all, I don't know if you've
00:19:26.240 seen, if you happen to be watching on torch, uh, you will see, you'll see the picture. This is Jack
00:19:31.780 Hughes smiling after the wind, which I just absolutely love. Do you have that full screen? There he is.
00:19:38.480 I mean, blood in his mouth. I mean, this is an American. This is an American. Okay. Here's the
00:19:48.020 moment he, uh, he scored the game-winning goal. Listen, cut one.
00:19:53.100 It's the greatest. It is the greatest. It is the greatest. It is the greatest. It feels good.
00:20:21.400 You know, Donald Trump said one at one point, you're gonna get sick of winning. I'm not sick
00:20:24.700 of it. I am not sick of it. Now they sang the national anthem and I want to play just a little
00:20:32.900 bit of the hockey team singing. Okay. They're not singers. They're hockey players, but they were
00:20:51.120 proud to be an American. They were proud to be there representing us. That is what felt so good.
00:20:58.940 We don't feel that very often anymore. And the left is saying, Oh, it's a MAGA win. MAGA is a
00:21:05.160 shut up, shut up. This should be something for all Americans to enjoy.
00:21:12.320 I'm tired of being ashamed of my country. I'm not ashamed. I should say I'm tired of people trying
00:21:19.960 to make me ashamed of my country. I'm tired of people being ashamed of our country. Have we made
00:21:28.100 mistakes? Yeah. Show me the country that has made fewer that are 230 years old or 250 years old. Show me
00:21:38.400 the country. We all suck at some point, but we try and strive to get better.
00:21:52.120 Look there, when he brought Homer helped bring home the gold, it landed differently than, you know,
00:22:00.460 than most gold medals land. Okay. And it's partly because of him, but it's also partly because of us.
00:22:11.540 Hockey is different. Now you're going to have to excuse me because I know nothing about hockey. I mean,
00:22:16.080 I know nothing about sports, but from what little I have read,
00:22:20.460 excuse me for the first two points, but I think they're accurate. Okay.
00:22:28.560 There are five reasons why this hit differently for all of us. The first one, this is a new generation 1.00
00:22:35.620 of American hockey. We lived, when I was growing up, we lived in the shadow of Canada and the old 0.93
00:22:43.080 Soviet union. And that was a machine. And the miracle of 1980, that was just blue collar 0.91
00:22:50.340 grit. That was just, you know, that was Lake Placid. It was sacrifice. Hughes is different.
00:22:59.020 He is speed. He's skill. He's flash. He's confidence. He's the face of the New Jersey devils,
00:23:06.920 former number one overall draft pick. He is the guy who represents the American hockey player development
00:23:16.880 kids coming out of the, you know, U S national team development program who don't just compete
00:23:23.280 internationally. They're dominating. And that shift matters because we've always kind of been this
00:23:30.660 borrowed excellence, or we were the, you know, we were not the, we didn't dominate. We borrowed.
00:23:37.980 Now it's all homegrown. There's the first reason this is homegrown. It's a new generation. 0.98
00:23:45.820 Two, he has a style that I think Americans recognize. He plays like a modern American
00:23:53.360 athlete. He is creative. He is fast. He is fearless. He walks off with no teeth in the front.
00:24:00.340 I mean, he's willing to take over. Okay. Gold medals mean more to us when they're played or when
00:24:09.960 they're won by players who feel distinctly American in their temperament. They're assertive.
00:24:16.640 They're confident and a little defiant. That's who we are. Okay. And he didn't just compete.
00:24:24.780 He imposed himself on these games. Americans like that. The rest of the world may not like that,
00:24:31.960 but that's who we are. We're the people who cross the Rocky mountains. Okay. Third reason
00:24:38.400 gold still seems really rare in hockey. Okay. Basketball. I mean, when they were, we have the
00:24:45.260 dream team in basketball. Oh, we won the gold. What a shock expected baseball work. You know,
00:24:52.020 everybody's competitive football. That's ours. Of course. But hockey, hockey still carries an old
00:24:59.520 weight to it. It feels like you're taking something back from the old powers of Canada and Sweden and 0.96
00:25:06.960 Russia. When the U S wins gold in hockey, it's earned the hard way. And when a young American star is at
00:25:15.080 the center of that, I don't know, it just kind of feels like momentum, right? Feels good.
00:25:22.080 Now here's the fourth reason why this feels different timing. We are in the weirdest place of my
00:25:33.140 lifetime. We are culturally divided. We are cynical. We're exhausted by politics and sports.
00:25:42.980 At least this sports moment, it was clean. It was earned. It was unified.
00:25:50.140 And it hits harder right now when somebody look, listen, play the, uh, cut of him. Let me see
00:25:57.360 where I can find it. Play the cut where he is talking about how lucky is cut three. I'm lucky.
00:26:04.540 I'm from the best country in the world. We got great dentists there too. So I'm lucky. I'm American.
00:26:09.660 They're going to fix me right up. Standing there, listening to the anthem. What's going through your
00:26:13.340 head? Just so proud. I'm so proud to be American. I'm so proud of this group. I'm so happy that
00:26:19.200 we could win. You know, we have so many people here supporting us. We have so many people back
00:26:24.200 home supporting us. And, you know, we're just, we're, we're so thrilled with how this whole
00:26:29.660 tournament played out. And, you know, just an unbelievable moment for USA hockey. We've been
00:26:34.540 feeling that, that love for, for so many years, you know, so many of these guys have been in like
00:26:39.760 with USA hockey for so long. We have so many ex players, ex Olympians, all the guys we looked up
00:26:46.620 to reached out to us. We got their notes on the wall in the locker room and they sent some
00:26:51.300 unbelievable messages, stuff that, you know, puts tears in your eyes, honestly, because it means so
00:26:56.540 much to them. It means so much to us. And the next batch of kids in the next 20 years, it's going to
00:27:00.960 mean so much to them. So that's why we do this USA brother hockey brotherhood is so strong.
00:27:06.740 We're so proud that we could do it for them. We're so proud we could do it for everyone back home.
00:27:12.600 I mean, how great is that? There's no scandal. There's no theatrics. There's just excellence and
00:27:19.040 teamwork. Let me play the next, uh, cut. Uh, they brought the kids of, uh, Johnny Godro, uh, out.
00:27:27.260 He was killed by a drunk driver last year alongside his brother and they bring his two kids out on
00:27:34.580 the, he would have been playing in, in the Olympics and they bring his kids out, play a little bit of
00:27:40.000 this. And as we look behind Dylan Larkin and Zach Borenski have gone into the stands to go get
00:27:45.800 Johnny's kids. They're going to come out now and they're going to hold your dad's Jersey and get a
00:27:53.420 picture with the gold medal team. How beautiful was that? You talk about sports and you talk about
00:28:06.320 the togetherness of a team. That's why they won the gold. And that's what mattered to us.
00:28:15.700 I mean, this is the story of Jack. He's the face of it, but it's not the story of Jack. It is the
00:28:23.760 team. It's the team. There was a time when America felt like a team and I don't know about you, but I'm
00:28:32.360 longing to feel like a team again. I don't know why we can't get on to the, you know, USA team,
00:28:38.220 but we can't. There's too many people that hate America that are Americans. I don't get it.
00:28:45.700 Just don't get it, but you know, to each his own. And the fifth reason I think is because of the
00:28:54.480 story of his family. Another thing that is important to America. Jack's not just a one-off.
00:29:01.660 He is a hockey family. His brother is a star for the Vancouver Canucks, and I'm not going to hold
00:29:07.200 that against him. His other brother also plays for the Devils. Three elite American players from one
00:29:14.120 family. There is something to that that speaks to us about our family in a deeper way. Discipline,
00:29:20.760 structure, parental investment, people who work hard. This family obviously works hard, trains hard,
00:29:28.940 and is a unit. That's the American ideal. Build it at home, take it to the world stage.
00:29:35.040 That's why this hit us all so hard, because it feels like a torch is being passed to the next
00:29:41.540 generation, and they're lighting an entirely new flame. American development is beating the old
00:29:47.000 system. Excellence without shame or apology, unity without politics, and family. I mean,
00:29:58.860 that was not a medal you saw. That was the symbol of something that Americans are hungry to feel
00:30:05.700 again. That we're not fading away. That we can still produce the very best in the world. That our
00:30:15.300 young men and women can walk into the hardest arenas on earth and come out champions, no matter what
00:30:22.260 everyone else is telling them. And in hockey, of all things, in all sports, it still feels like
00:30:28.820 we're proving something. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:30:37.620 Lou, how are you, my man? Glenn, I'm doing better than I deserve. You know, I tell people at my age,
00:30:43.840 any day above ground is a good day. Yeah, I'm with you on that one. So do you remember having that
00:30:50.320 conversation where you said the clock is ticking? I do. I remember that, Glenn. I sure do.
00:30:57.060 So what did you mean by that? Well, look, in the world of national security, the clock is always
00:31:04.200 ticking. What do I mean by that? Well, you know, there are foreign adversaries out there that are
00:31:09.520 very much involved in the research of UAP like we are, just like our country. And what you don't want
00:31:16.400 to do is allow ourselves to get to a point of what we call strategic surprise, right? All of a sudden,
00:31:21.820 you have country X or country Y out there that may not necessarily be friendly to the U.S.
00:31:26.720 And all of a sudden, they find they have a breakthrough, right? So China has already admitted
00:31:30.620 they have their own UAP program. So does Russia. And what we don't want to do is allow ourselves to 0.51
00:31:36.500 fall behind some of our adversaries' capabilities. Now, there's also another part of that conversation,
00:31:42.620 too. What you don't want to do is allow so much time to go by that by the time you are forced to
00:31:49.900 make a decision, all your options you've exhausted. Meaning, let's say that there is an announcement,
00:31:58.560 let's say later this year, that life has been discovered somewhere else off of Earth, right?
00:32:06.800 You don't want to be in a situation as a government where you are caught flat-footed and surprised,
00:32:11.800 right? And by that statement, you want to be as proactive as possible. You want to be able to
00:32:16.680 have the conversation, socialize the idea with your citizens. Because let's face it, governments
00:32:24.320 writ large are, the reason why they have the authority they do is because people have faith
00:32:29.900 and confidence in those institutions, in those governments. And the last place any government
00:32:36.660 wants to be is on their back foot, right? In a situation where they get surprised. And now,
00:32:42.540 like we saw, for example, with the drone incursions that we had back in 2024 up in New Jersey,
00:32:49.780 right? First, the White House says, there's nothing to see here, folks. And they said, well,
00:32:53.220 actually, there is something to see here. Well, actually, they've all been, all these drones have
00:32:57.300 been coordinated through the FAA. Well, no, they haven't. We don't even know if they're drones at this
00:33:00.980 point. Or the Chinese spy balloon, right? Under the Biden administration, that's another case in
00:33:05.960 point where decisions were made on our behalf because we simply didn't want to face the
00:33:11.720 uncomfortable truth that China was sending reconnaissance balloons over North America,
00:33:18.340 completely unchallenged.
00:33:19.460 So you started this out with, imagine country X or Y. So are you saying that we're possibly facing
00:33:31.980 something from another country?
00:33:35.740 Well, I think all is possible. All cards have to remain on the table until they're not. I think
00:33:41.180 there's enough information to suggest that other countries are heavily invested in this topic. But
00:33:46.580 keep in mind, we've been dealing with this now for decades. And when I say decades, at least eight
00:33:51.760 decades. That's 80 years we've been dealing with this phenomenon. And if you look 80 years ago,
00:33:57.760 where was Russia? Well, you know, we had just, the United States had just entered the atomic age.
00:34:02.140 We had barely broken the sound barrier. No one has been into space. And that means some country
00:34:09.040 secretly was developing this technology and was able to perfect it eight decades ago. So that doesn't
00:34:16.420 make sense, right? If that was the case, this would be considered the worst intelligence failure in
00:34:21.440 the history of our nation, eclipsing that of even 9-11. Because that means for 80 years, some country
00:34:27.020 in secret has been developing this technology and, oh, by the way, has been able to deploy it over
00:34:32.140 controlled U.S. airspace, over our sensitive military facilities. And there's not a darn thing we can do
00:34:37.020 about it. So when you look back at this from a temporal aspect or a time aspect, it simply doesn't
00:34:42.580 make sense that all of this, what we're seeing is Russian or Chinese. It doesn't pass the smell test. 0.98
00:34:52.360 You, and you're not the only one that said this, 2027 keeps coming up. And you just said
00:34:57.920 later this year or in 2027. Why is 2027 the year that everybody keeps throwing around? Because
00:35:06.800 it doesn't seem random to me. Everybody seems to be saying 2027. Yeah, I've heard 2027. I also heard
00:35:15.760 2036. The capacity in which I heard it, I'd rather not get into. I heard it when I was working with
00:35:23.540 U.S. Space Force. But it was, to me, it seemed more anecdotal. So I'm probably not best suited to
00:35:32.840 answer that time-wise, simply because I didn't come up with that, that timeframe. But I, like you,
00:35:39.340 I heard that as well. And, you know, certainly something we need to, we need to pay attention to.
00:35:45.380 So, um, the, Laura Trump just came out and said, there's a speech for the president to give,
00:35:53.200 and he's prepared to give it at some point. Is that a speech? Do you think she's referring to a speech
00:35:59.400 that, uh, the, that every president has had, or is this something that is prepared for this time,
00:36:07.540 do you think? I think it's probably something prepared for this time, uh, simply because a lot
00:36:13.620 of presidents were kept in the dark on this topic for a very long time. And I don't think they took
00:36:18.340 it seriously. Um, certainly this president during his first term, uh, initially when he was asked,
00:36:23.640 uh, kind of laughed it off. And then later, from my understanding, he received some briefings and,
00:36:29.140 and then took it quite, quite seriously afterwards. Um, but look, it's a very risky topic. You know,
00:36:34.920 any president that makes a public statement about this, about this topic runs a huge risk, um,
00:36:41.120 simply because there's a lot of unknowns and, and it's, it's, it has never really been good for one's
00:36:46.800 career necessarily, or even the media up until recently to, to even cover this topic, because the amount of
00:36:52.860 stigma and taboo that have been associated purposefully, by the way, on this topic, on purpose, our own
00:36:58.560 government created this taboo unnecessarily, um, to give it the flexibility to actually do research. A lot of
00:37:06.080 people are surprised when they find out that ATIP was actually a program in the Pentagon that was studying
00:37:11.580 UFOs. Um, that's what my colleagues and I were, were told to do. Um, and you, you said it absolutely
00:37:17.000 correct. I was never a quote unquote believer. Um, I went, uh, to, through the medical program at
00:37:23.300 University of Miami and my, technically I graduated in microbiology and, and, uh, immunology. So the
00:37:30.160 scientific method for me is very important. Also as an intelligence officer, you have to let the facts
00:37:35.440 speak for themselves. Um, however, with that said, there comes a point where you have so much
00:37:41.920 overwhelming evidence and you have some of the most sophisticated capabilities, technologically
00:37:46.280 speaking in the intelligence community, um, that normally can identify the difference between an F-16
00:37:52.260 and let's say a MIG-25 from 25 miles away. Um, these same sensor systems are being used, uh, to,
00:37:59.860 to collect information on things that frankly, we don't understand technologically speaking,
00:38:04.000 these things can outperform anything we have in our inventory. And that is a national security issue.
00:38:09.760 And I believe that our president has been made aware of that. Uh, and not just by the department
00:38:14.600 of war either. There, there's other elements, the FBI, the, the intelligence community, even the
00:38:20.640 department of energy that all have equity in, in this topic. Uh, one of my researchers said the reason
00:38:28.740 why the government is so afraid of all of this coming out is because if there is technology that we got
00:38:34.800 from someplace else, uh, and it was shared with certain companies, then other companies will
00:38:41.620 start suing and saying, well, I didn't get any of that. That's an unfair advantage. Do you think
00:38:45.400 there's any, anything to that? Yeah, absolutely correct. Yeah, absolutely. Look, there's, there's
00:38:51.040 back, you know, with, with the military industrial complex, there's still rules and laws that have to
00:38:55.000 be followed and you have to have free and fair competition. Um, that is, that is how this system
00:39:00.960 works. And if it turns out that maybe some general somewhere in the halls of the Pentagon, um, gave a
00:39:07.380 company an unfair advantage, you can imagine in 10 years, 20 years, company A becomes a multi
00:39:12.700 billion dollar aerospace company where company B goes bankrupt. Um, 200 jobs are lost and investors,
00:39:19.440 you know, lose their investment, right? So there's securities exchange commissions violations.
00:39:24.200 I mean, you, you could, you could, in theory rack up not just billions, but trillions of dollars
00:39:28.960 worth of, of liability and damages. So that is a very real issue. That is absolutely correct.
00:39:36.680 One last thing. What is the, you were on the podcast with me and you talked about a spiritual
00:39:46.280 element of all of this that I think you said you walked into a meeting and the scientists were
00:39:53.860 talking about something spiritual and we didn't really get into it. Can you share that again?
00:39:58.960 Sure. Well, let me just say this, Glenn, if I can, I think, I think ultimately the human
00:40:06.580 experience is a spiritual experience. There's, there's no way around it. You know, a lot of
00:40:10.160 people say that we're humans, uh, having a spiritual experience. I tend to think we're spiritual beings
00:40:16.360 having a human experience, but that aside, um, there were elements in the Pentagon, um, that
00:40:22.800 believed that what we were looking into, uh, were actually demons. Um, and, uh, there were some
00:40:29.440 fundamentalists that believe that this was all, um, the work of, of, of, of, so, so to speak,
00:40:35.100 the devil. Now I, you know, I, I can't between you and me, and I guess now everybody else, I, I can't
00:40:41.520 necessarily fault them for, for thinking that because if that is their, their, their, their spiritual
00:40:47.080 perspective, then, then I can understand it. And there are elements certainly within this topic
00:40:51.800 that may, may scare some people. Um, but I don't know what to be true.
00:40:58.060 Like, like, can you tell me like, you know, like, sure. Yeah, there were, there were people in the
00:41:04.380 Pentagon that, uh, believe that, um, UFOs, they, not only did they say they were real, like she told
00:41:09.600 it to my face and my colleagues, but that we shouldn't be looking into them because, um, they are demons.
00:41:15.020 They're demonic. They are, we know exactly what they are. And again, some of these people are very,
00:41:19.820 very senior in the intelligence community. Some of them were friends of mine. Um, and although I don't,
00:41:25.520 I don't agree with their perspective, look, at the end of the day, I can't prove that they're wrong
00:41:29.960 either. So I, I respect it. I don't, I don't agree with it, but I can respect that, that, that fear,
00:41:37.340 um, that this topic brings because... Do you have any idea why they would say something like that?
00:41:44.280 Well, what was told to me point blank was, Lou, have you read your Bible lately? And I said, you know,
00:41:50.360 I thought I was, you know, pretty familiar with it. Why? And he said, well, then you would know,
00:41:55.100 because what we're dealing with are demons and we shouldn't be looking into them. And that was
00:41:59.440 the extent of that conversation I had with, with the senior leader in the U S government. Um, but
00:42:05.020 there were others as well who, who felt the same way. Um, there's a lot of people, uh, that also can
00:42:11.620 point to the Bible and they'll, they'll, they'll talk about Ezekiel's wheel, right. As being actually,
00:42:16.920 uh, an interpretation of a, of a, of an encounter with a UAP. Um, so I, I spent some time at the
00:42:23.120 Vatican and I'll tell you, I'll share this. That was kind of interesting and I'll make a quick,
00:42:27.040 um, there they opened a scroll. It was a very old, uh, parchment. It was in, um, it was in Latin.
00:42:33.400 And one of the senior, uh, academics there at the Vatican said, look here, read this part.
00:42:38.960 And it talked about Eclipus. Eclipus is a Latin word for like, think of eclipse. And it was the,
00:42:44.540 the word they were using for the, for the Roman shields because the Roman shields were round
00:42:48.500 and lenticular and they did look, I guess, like, like suns. And he said, here it is. And this was
00:42:54.060 a discussion between a Roman soldier and a Roman general where they just, the way they described
00:42:59.060 these flaming Roman shields in the sky that would follow them from battle space to battle space.
00:43:05.080 Um, and so, you know, this, this is going way back and this is, this is, this is a document
00:43:10.060 that's in the possession of the Vatican itself. So the Vatican has also had a, a, a deep interest
00:43:16.220 in this topic. Um, the, the, the last Pope actually said, I believe, um, several years
00:43:21.380 ago that we should not be surprised that life exists and is abundant in the universe. Um,
00:43:28.220 that, that, you know, God has the ability to, to create as many species as he wants. And
00:43:34.020 it doesn't necessarily mean that, that we are any less special.
00:43:40.420 Lou, it's always fascinating to talk to you. We'll, uh, you know, we'll, we'll keep watching.
00:43:44.860 Thank you so much. All right, God, my honor and privilege. Thank you so much.
00:43:49.600 You bet. Former Pentagon UAP official, the guy who led the search, uh, here recently,
00:43:55.140 a lot of the breaking news comes from him, Lou Elizondo.
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