The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Bret Weinstein & Carol Roth ｜ 9⧸19⧸24

00:00:00.140 Stu, was this an incredible podcast?

00:00:03.500 It was.

00:00:04.060 I mean, one of the greatest of all time.

00:00:05.840 Yeah, it's rated currently number seven podcast of all time.

00:00:08.680 Of all time.

00:00:09.740 It's crazy.

00:00:10.520 We don't make the ratings here.

00:00:11.820 We just report them.

00:00:14.080 Okay, we had a couple of things.

00:00:15.520 First of all, our Pulsecast, which is the first time that that has aired.

00:00:20.140 It is, well, explain it quickly.

00:00:22.000 Quickly.

00:00:22.340 It's a summary, basically, of what all the data experts, election modelers, pollsters,

00:00:26.900 poll, prediction markets, all these different measures we look at.

00:00:30.880 It's tough to understand what they all mean.

00:00:32.940 What are they really saying?

00:00:33.940 Well, we've come up with a way to kind of let you look at that in a very understandable kind

00:00:38.520 of single number, and we'll give that to you today on the program.

00:00:41.000 Yeah, and it'll show you how we all need all hands on deck.

00:00:44.300 Carol Roth is here to talk to us about the economy, what happened with the Fed.

00:00:47.880 We also talked to Jason Buttrill about a couple of things.

00:00:50.860 War is one of them, but also our veterans and what is happening with our veterans.

00:00:56.500 We are not, we're not helping our veterans.

00:01:01.480 Instead, we're helping the illegal aliens. 0.97

00:01:04.960 What's up with that?

00:01:06.660 We talked to veterans today.

00:01:08.360 It's amazing.

00:01:09.640 You can get the entire show wherever you get your podcast, but the best of happens right now.

00:01:15.560 First, let me tell you about Lear Capital.

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00:01:39.980 That's the only way we get through this.

00:01:43.480 But even then, it's going to be a rough ride because, you know, math is math.

00:01:47.480 I'm sorry, two plus two does not equal five.

00:01:50.160 Math is math.

00:01:51.400 And we have made such horrible mathematical decisions when it comes to our money.

00:01:56.940 Uh, I don't know how you can survive this.

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00:02:09.400 That is a red line for Vladimir Putin who said it will be an act of war.

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00:02:18.560 War will destroy the dollar.

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00:03:05.740 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:03:10.560 The numbers that I am about to share are really hard to believe.

00:03:15.160 When I saw them yesterday, I found them shocking.

00:03:24.380 But I want you to close your eyes for a second and imagine

00:03:27.300 that you're standing on a dock.

00:03:31.760 You're standing somewhere on the east coast, the Atlantic, but you're in the 1800s.

00:03:43.480 The sun is setting and casting an orange glow across the water.

00:03:48.720 As you stare at a massive ship that is coming your way.

00:03:59.120 Around you, there's a crowd of people, each one holding on to what little they brought from their home country.

00:04:05.560 And you're amongst these people who are welcoming friends, neighbors, and countrymen.

00:04:13.880 Some are from Germany.

00:04:15.580 Some are from Ireland, Poland, Italy, from all over the world.

00:04:18.960 They don't speak the same language.

00:04:21.520 They don't eat the same food.

00:04:23.380 And they don't share the same customs.

00:04:27.920 They separated themselves while they were on the ship.

00:04:32.800 But all of these people, with all of their differences,

00:04:36.340 all the things that have kept them apart from one another in their own countries,

00:04:42.900 have one thing in common.

00:04:45.180 They're all headed to America. 0.99

00:04:52.940 Why?

00:04:55.140 What was it that brought so many people from so many different places to America?

00:05:01.100 What did they see in America that made them leave behind everything they knew?

00:05:05.140 Their homes, their families, their identities.

00:05:08.220 Some of them left their names.

00:05:09.660 Perhaps we should ask this question today.

00:05:18.740 How did we become a country of E Pluribus Udum?

00:05:23.140 Out of many, one.

00:05:27.540 I'm going to come back to that.

00:05:28.940 But let me give you the tales on the numbers that I saw yesterday.

00:05:33.900 Because they tell us something very important about where we are as a country.

00:05:38.200 Over 28% of Americans, 28% and an even higher percentage of Democrats, 35%,

00:05:49.200 believe the country would have been better off if a sitting president, Donald Trump, had been assassinated.

00:05:57.940 35% of Democrats, 28% of all of us.

00:06:03.900 I just, I want to talk to you about this and please listen and don't think of Donald Trump.

00:06:14.100 Because this isn't about his policies or his personality.

00:06:18.340 Is he a polarizing figure?

00:06:20.200 Yes.

00:06:21.960 This is, however, about something much deeper, something much more dangerous that is brewing in our country right now.

00:06:28.220 It is about the fabric of our democracy being stretched thinner and thinner and thinner.

00:06:36.260 The fact that more than a quarter of Americans who live in this country,

00:06:41.760 founded on the principle of peaceful power transfers,

00:06:46.540 could think that violence, the assassination of a leader, is the way to improve our nation.

00:06:53.300 What does that tell you?

00:06:59.080 It tells you that many of us do not hold certain things self-evident anymore.

00:07:05.560 It tells us how fragmented we've become.

00:07:11.280 All right, let's all of us, left and right, take a deep breath and walk back a step.

00:07:15.700 Because this is not the first time that America has faced division.

00:07:20.680 It's not the first time we've experienced anger and disagreement.

00:07:24.160 Let's go back to 1963.

00:07:26.560 Wow, what a horrible time that was.

00:07:28.960 Civil rights marches, the Cold War, nuclear threats.

00:07:32.060 People were angry, they were terrified, and deeply divided.

00:07:37.460 Sound familiar?

00:07:38.260 The deep state with J. Edgar Hoover and the CIA were possibly plotting to kill the president.

00:07:49.400 And yet when President John F. Kennedy was assassinated on that November day in Dallas,

00:07:55.240 no one in this country celebrated.

00:07:58.520 No one.

00:08:00.000 No one was thinking, well, we're better off now.

00:08:03.340 It was grief.

00:08:09.320 Deep, national grief.

00:08:12.880 Because it wasn't about the loss for Kennedy.

00:08:16.780 And it certainly wasn't a loss for Kennedy supporters or his political party.

00:08:20.440 That's not what it was about.

00:08:22.260 It was a loss for America.

00:08:25.080 The whole nation stopped and mourned.

00:08:28.480 Why?

00:08:28.980 Because at the end of the day, despite all of our disagreements,

00:08:34.060 we still believed in the American idea.

00:08:37.800 We believed in our republic.

00:08:39.740 We believed in democracy.

00:08:41.360 We believed in the peaceful transfer of power.

00:08:44.520 We still had faith in our institutions.

00:08:49.180 Kennedy's death wasn't a victory for anyone.

00:08:53.140 It was a tragedy for everyone.

00:08:56.240 And that, my dear friend,

00:09:01.440 is where the story starts to change.

00:09:05.920 Because here's the kicker.

00:09:08.720 We don't feel that way anymore.

00:09:14.140 Today we're living in a different world, a different America, 0.93

00:09:17.560 where political differences aren't just disagreements anymore.

00:09:21.440 They are hardened battle lines.

00:09:24.000 In the 1960s, people were divided.

00:09:27.780 Sure, they were.

00:09:29.660 We still had a shared identity, however, as Americans.

00:09:35.020 We still all believed in the Bill of Rights.

00:09:39.440 Well, now it's not just about policy or ideas anymore.

00:09:43.540 It's identity.

00:09:45.780 People just disagree with each other.

00:09:48.580 They see each other as enemies.

00:09:50.000 One side thinks the other is destroying the country,

00:09:53.920 and the other side thinks that side is destroying the country.

00:09:59.100 And when that happens,

00:10:00.720 when we start seeing our fellow Americans as existential threats,

00:10:05.600 it becomes much easier to justify extreme violence.

00:10:10.340 Suddenly violence, even assassination,

00:10:12.280 starts to look like a solution to some.

00:10:17.300 That's a sign of insanity.

00:10:20.200 I mean, if you want a civilization.

00:10:24.500 So how did we get here?

00:10:26.060 What changed?

00:10:29.000 Well, it didn't happen overnight.

00:10:30.460 There are three major reasons why we're seeing this level of division.

00:10:35.620 And really, they're all connected.

00:10:38.380 The polarization has deepened.

00:10:41.380 Our political polarization has reached an all-time high.

00:10:44.260 Why?

00:10:45.300 Because we don't teach what united us anymore.

00:10:50.020 Back in the days of Kennedy, people had fierce disagreements.

00:10:53.220 There were fights over the civil rights, the Cold War, nuclear weapons,

00:10:56.660 all the really big stuff that's happening yet today,

00:11:00.400 but we're not really talking about those things.

00:11:03.960 But despite all of those in the 1960s,

00:11:06.680 there was still a common ground,

00:11:08.460 a belief in the idea of America,

00:11:11.020 of working together to solve problems.

00:11:13.600 People could still sit down at the table

00:11:15.740 and have a heated argument

00:11:17.800 and still walk away knowing that they were in this together

00:11:20.280 because we were all Americans.

00:11:22.560 You see, the hippie movement hadn't really started yet.

00:11:25.100 The tear down America.

00:11:27.260 America sucks.

00:11:28.260 America has never been any good.

00:11:29.940 That's not what Martin Luther King taught.

00:11:32.460 Martin Luther King taught,

00:11:34.020 you haven't lived up to those ideals and those promises.

00:11:37.820 America, I challenge you to do that.

00:11:40.960 But have you heard anybody really talk about that lately?

00:11:47.000 Now the common ground,

00:11:48.480 that common ground,

00:11:49.520 that beachhead that Martin Luther King was standing on

00:11:52.880 has all but disappeared.

00:11:55.160 We've retreated into our own camps

00:11:57.440 and you see it everywhere.

00:11:59.120 It's not just policy differences anymore.

00:12:01.540 It's tribalism

00:12:02.620 because we've all,

00:12:04.880 through fear,

00:12:05.600 gone back into our lizard brain.

00:12:08.620 People today are more loyal

00:12:10.660 to their political team

00:12:12.360 than they are to one another

00:12:14.400 or certainly than they are to our country.

00:12:17.320 And we don't just disagree,

00:12:20.860 we demonize.

00:12:22.620 And that demonization, 0.51

00:12:24.340 it's dangerous.

00:12:27.740 It opens the door for people

00:12:29.540 to see their opponents

00:12:30.660 as less than human,

00:12:32.520 as enemies that must be destroyed.

00:12:35.860 And when you start seeing people as enemies,

00:12:37.660 you start thinking about extreme solutions

00:12:39.860 because something's got to be done.

00:12:42.300 The second reason this is happening

00:12:44.940 is the erosion of trust in institutions.

00:12:48.500 So here's another big piece of the puzzle.

00:12:50.660 We don't trust our institutions.

00:12:52.420 It used to be that people had faith,

00:12:54.800 faith in the system.

00:12:56.620 It was flawed.

00:12:57.340 We knew that.

00:12:58.680 But it was still working,

00:13:00.480 kind of,

00:13:00.980 for the good of the country.

00:13:02.280 And we were trying to fix it

00:13:03.560 and make it better.

00:13:04.100 Back in the 1960s,

00:13:05.480 most Americans trusted the government.

00:13:08.080 It was a mistake.

00:13:09.640 But they trusted the government.

00:13:11.240 The media they trusted.

00:13:12.960 Even the presidency,

00:13:14.440 despite their political disagreements.

00:13:16.840 I remember talking about Bill Clinton

00:13:18.400 and somebody said,

00:13:19.120 I could never shake his hand.

00:13:20.200 And I said,

00:13:20.600 I would shake his hand.

00:13:21.540 He's the president of the United States.

00:13:23.440 I respect the office.

00:13:25.700 Now, over the decades,

00:13:27.320 that's all gone.

00:13:28.360 Watergate, Vietnam,

00:13:29.460 the Iraq War,

00:13:30.280 financial crisis,

00:13:31.340 one scandal after another,

00:13:33.380 yelling and bickering

00:13:34.360 and nobody getting anything done,

00:13:36.380 lying to the American people

00:13:37.780 when they're running.

00:13:38.540 It's just chipped away

00:13:39.540 at our faith in the system.

00:13:41.280 And the result?

00:13:44.060 Well,

00:13:44.940 more often than not,

00:13:46.760 people now seeing

00:13:47.500 the system is beyond repair.

00:13:49.740 And so we have to start all over

00:13:51.040 and throw all of it out.

00:13:53.340 They've lost hope

00:13:55.160 in the democratic solutions.

00:13:57.840 Boy,

00:13:58.280 Stalin must be so happy today.

00:14:03.260 You see,

00:14:04.000 when you lose faith in the process,

00:14:05.560 that's when radical ideas,

00:14:07.400 violence,

00:14:08.160 starts to seem

00:14:09.160 like a viable alternative.

00:14:11.060 We have to do something.

00:14:13.820 And when you feel like

00:14:14.820 voting doesn't matter anymore,

00:14:16.760 like democracy itself is broken,

00:14:19.300 that I can't cast a ballot

00:14:20.880 and have it even count,

00:14:22.240 the idea of resetting things

00:14:24.640 through assassination

00:14:25.640 or violence

00:14:26.400 starts to creep in

00:14:27.660 for some.

00:14:29.920 Now,

00:14:30.420 that's a scary thought.

00:14:34.000 But let me throw

00:14:34.800 a wild card in.

00:14:36.980 The new wild card

00:14:38.180 of social media

00:14:39.220 that accelerates

00:14:40.380 everything.

00:14:42.440 This wasn't around

00:14:43.520 back in the Kennedy years.

00:14:44.800 Back then,

00:14:45.240 people got their news

00:14:46.020 from a few TV networks

00:14:47.600 and newspapers.

00:14:48.220 We all operated

00:14:49.980 in the same public square.

00:14:51.680 Today,

00:14:52.560 there is no mass

00:14:53.780 of America.

00:14:54.580 There's no mass audience

00:14:56.060 anymore.

00:14:56.600 It's totally different.

00:14:58.040 Social media

00:14:58.760 and the fragmentation

00:14:59.920 of our media

00:15:00.720 has created a landscape

00:15:02.000 where people are more isolated

00:15:03.700 than ever before.

00:15:05.060 Isolated in their own

00:15:06.400 digital bubble,

00:15:07.560 in an echo chamber

00:15:08.700 that just reinforces

00:15:10.540 their worldview

00:15:11.580 no matter how extreme.

00:15:14.640 Algorithms feed us

00:15:15.880 more of what we already believe,

00:15:17.440 more of what we're angry about.

00:15:19.200 The more sensational,

00:15:20.580 the more divisive,

00:15:21.500 the better, right?

00:15:23.040 And this amplification

00:15:24.120 of extreme views

00:15:25.560 has allowed

00:15:26.120 conspiracy theories,

00:15:27.400 misinformation,

00:15:28.260 radicalization

00:15:28.940 to spread like wildfire

00:15:30.840 and much of it

00:15:31.800 coming from our government

00:15:33.060 itself.

00:15:36.400 We're not just

00:15:37.360 disagreeing anymore.

00:15:39.380 We're being radicalized.

00:15:40.940 when Hillary Clinton,

00:15:42.800 a former presidential candidate

00:15:44.580 and a first lady, 0.99

00:15:46.540 says that if you disagree

00:15:48.440 with her version

00:15:50.440 of misinformation,

00:15:52.560 if you are a purveyor

00:15:55.100 of misinformation

00:15:56.000 as she deems the truth,

00:15:59.000 you should go to jail. 0.81

00:16:03.320 Ideas that would,

00:16:04.460 I mean,

00:16:05.200 would have been way fringe

00:16:06.520 in Kennedy's time.

00:16:07.800 Now they're just

00:16:09.060 a viral click away.

00:16:11.360 And the worst part,

00:16:13.360 it normalizes

00:16:14.280 violent rhetoric.

00:16:15.540 It makes assassination

00:16:16.440 or violence seem

00:16:17.580 to some

00:16:18.080 like a logical conclusion.

00:16:19.440 I mean,

00:16:19.680 we're living

00:16:20.120 in a violent world now,

00:16:21.320 right?

00:16:22.100 What's going to stop it?

00:16:23.160 Who's going to stop it?

00:16:25.560 Well,

00:16:25.760 here's where the story

00:16:26.540 takes a turn.

00:16:28.700 Because there is hope.

00:16:30.060 The fact that over

00:16:33.740 28% of Americans,

00:16:35.800 35 total,

00:16:37.420 believe,

00:16:38.120 sorry,

00:16:38.760 35 of Democrats

00:16:40.420 that believe

00:16:41.480 an assassination

00:16:42.040 would improve the country

00:16:43.300 is disturbing.

00:16:45.400 It is a death knell.

00:16:48.220 But it is also

00:16:49.460 a wake-up call.

00:16:50.600 It's a signal

00:16:51.360 that something is wrong.

00:16:53.280 But it is not

00:16:54.380 the end of our story.

00:16:55.520 In fact,

00:16:55.860 it might be the beginning

00:16:56.780 of something really,

00:16:57.940 really good.

00:16:58.440 A chance for us

00:16:59.280 to turn things around.

00:17:01.860 Because here's the truth.

00:17:02.880 We've been here before.

00:17:03.820 We've been divided.

00:17:04.720 We've been angry.

00:17:05.560 We've been scared.

00:17:06.400 We've even been at war

00:17:07.300 with each other.

00:17:08.640 And every time

00:17:09.640 we found a way through,

00:17:11.180 this time is no different.

00:17:13.960 But it's going to take effort

00:17:15.360 for all of us,

00:17:17.200 including you and me.

00:17:18.760 It's going to take

00:17:19.640 all of us,

00:17:20.260 no matter where you stand

00:17:21.380 politically,

00:17:22.020 to recognize

00:17:22.660 that we're part

00:17:23.940 of the same country.

00:17:25.300 We're part

00:17:25.940 of the same

00:17:26.940 American story.

00:17:28.180 And if we want

00:17:29.640 that story

00:17:30.520 to continue

00:17:31.240 to be written,

00:17:32.340 then we

00:17:33.180 must restore

00:17:34.880 civility.

00:17:36.420 We have to start

00:17:37.360 talking to each other

00:17:38.420 again.

00:17:38.780 Not shouting,

00:17:39.500 not attacking,

00:17:40.140 but actually talking,

00:17:41.320 engaging in real

00:17:42.340 conversations

00:17:43.020 where we actually

00:17:44.300 listen to one another.

00:17:46.120 And that's not easy

00:17:47.040 because we're all angry.

00:17:47.980 I get it.

00:17:48.660 But if we don't start

00:17:49.480 talking,

00:17:49.920 we are never going

00:17:50.760 to find our way

00:17:51.320 out of this.

00:17:51.940 We also need

00:17:56.480 to return

00:17:56.860 to civic education.

00:17:58.280 A lot of people

00:17:58.780 don't understand

00:17:59.400 how our republic

00:18:00.660 even works

00:18:01.400 or why it's important.

00:18:02.980 We need to invest

00:18:04.280 in teaching our kids

00:18:05.860 and adults,

00:18:06.720 frankly,

00:18:07.220 how the system works

00:18:08.660 and why it is

00:18:09.780 so worth saving.

00:18:11.300 When people understand

00:18:12.600 truly what's at stake,

00:18:14.220 they are less likely

00:18:15.340 to believe that

00:18:16.140 violence is a solution. 1.00

00:18:18.440 And then we need

00:18:19.560 to rebuild trust

00:18:20.600 in one another.

00:18:21.940 And that is not easy.

00:18:25.380 But it starts

00:18:26.180 with accountability,

00:18:27.080 with transparency,

00:18:28.300 with leaders

00:18:28.740 who put our country

00:18:29.580 over party.

00:18:30.820 And it's not going

00:18:31.620 to happen overnight,

00:18:32.500 but step by step

00:18:33.600 we can rebuild

00:18:34.360 that trust

00:18:35.040 if we are together.

00:18:37.940 Here's the bottom line.

00:18:38.800 Those numbers,

00:18:39.320 28%, alarming.

00:18:41.540 But they're also

00:18:42.180 an opportunity

00:18:42.780 for us to step up,

00:18:44.040 to take good hard looks

00:18:45.660 at where we are

00:18:46.420 and decide to do

00:18:47.700 something about it

00:18:48.640 because the America

00:18:50.020 I know

00:18:50.740 doesn't sell

00:18:51.920 and celebrate violence.

00:18:53.080 We don't wish harm

00:18:54.140 on our leaders,

00:18:54.900 no matter how much

00:18:55.740 we might disagree with them.

00:18:58.300 And if we want to

00:18:59.260 save our republic,

00:19:00.360 we have to take

00:19:00.820 a step back.

00:19:01.520 We have to take

00:19:01.980 a deep breath.

00:19:02.620 We need to recommit

00:19:03.420 ourselves to the principles

00:19:04.420 that have always

00:19:05.180 made our country great.

00:19:06.720 Decency,

00:19:07.320 civility,

00:19:07.920 respect.

00:19:09.060 The truth is,

00:19:09.720 there is hope.

00:19:11.080 There is always hope.

00:19:12.880 But it is up

00:19:13.840 to us

00:19:14.820 to choose.

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00:20:17.480 back to the podcast.

00:20:19.260 You're listening

00:20:20.300 to the best

00:20:21.120 of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:27.400 Welcome to the

00:20:28.700 Glenn Beck Program.

00:20:30.480 I wanted to bring

00:20:31.580 Brett Weinstein on.

00:20:33.500 He's an evolutionary

00:20:34.740 biologist,

00:20:35.940 co-host of

00:20:36.800 Dark Horse,

00:20:37.680 the podcast.

00:20:38.940 He is also

00:20:40.580 one of the

00:20:41.520 founding members

00:20:42.300 of the team

00:20:42.980 putting together

00:20:43.920 Join the Resistance.

00:20:46.440 And you can

00:20:47.220 find out all

00:20:47.960 the information

00:20:48.520 at jointheresistance.org

00:20:49.960 forward slash

00:20:50.820 donate.

00:20:52.100 It's September 29th

00:20:53.740 in Washington,

00:20:54.760 so that is a week

00:20:55.700 from this weekend.

00:20:58.680 I know how you

00:20:59.600 probably feel about

00:21:00.580 going to Washington,

00:21:01.940 kind of the same

00:21:02.780 way I feel about

00:21:03.500 going to Washington,

00:21:04.320 but I am doing

00:21:04.780 my best to clear

00:21:06.000 my schedule

00:21:06.480 and be there

00:21:07.180 just to stand

00:21:08.360 in the crowd

00:21:08.760 with everybody else

00:21:09.680 because I think

00:21:10.720 this is really,

00:21:12.020 really important.

00:21:13.860 Brett,

00:21:14.080 welcome to the program.

00:21:15.940 Thanks so much.

00:21:16.920 It's great to be

00:21:17.620 with you.

00:21:18.380 One minor correction.

00:21:20.460 Yeah.

00:21:20.580 The website

00:21:21.540 is jointheresistance.org.

00:21:23.480 The name of the event

00:21:24.240 is Rescue the Republic.

00:21:25.360 Sorry, sorry, sorry.

00:21:26.200 Yeah, Rescue the Republic.

00:21:27.580 So tell me

00:21:28.640 what Rescue the Republic

00:21:29.580 is for people

00:21:30.880 who don't know.

00:21:33.140 Rescue the Republic

00:21:34.560 is more than an event.

00:21:37.700 It is really,

00:21:38.660 in my opinion,

00:21:39.620 the first meeting

00:21:40.720 of the vast unity coalition

00:21:43.260 that is forming

00:21:44.860 in large measure

00:21:46.840 in response

00:21:47.500 to the tyranny

00:21:48.220 that is clearly

00:21:49.120 unfolding

00:21:50.460 and planned

00:21:51.840 by what I call

00:21:53.300 the blue team.

00:21:54.800 I'm embarrassed to say

00:21:56.000 that's the party

00:21:57.400 to which I still belong,

00:21:59.400 the Democratic Party,

00:22:00.220 which has obviously

00:22:01.180 gone rogue

00:22:01.860 and opposes

00:22:04.060 all of the values

00:22:04.980 that are foundational

00:22:07.500 to the West.

00:22:09.520 So many of us

00:22:11.260 across the political spectrum

00:22:12.620 have recognized

00:22:13.520 this hazard

00:22:14.280 and are putting aside

00:22:15.760 our political

00:22:16.640 and ideological differences

00:22:18.040 in order

00:22:18.900 to protect

00:22:20.240 this civilization

00:22:21.440 which has been

00:22:22.960 so good to us

00:22:24.340 and to stave off

00:22:26.600 the disaster

00:22:27.380 that will unfold

00:22:28.780 if it is destroyed.

00:22:33.940 So, Brad,

00:22:34.700 I mean,

00:22:35.340 what,

00:22:36.300 eight years ago,

00:22:37.780 you and I

00:22:38.540 wouldn't have been

00:22:39.060 talking,

00:22:39.920 I don't think.

00:22:41.020 We would have seen

00:22:42.000 each other

00:22:42.400 in the opposite camp.

00:22:44.220 What is it that,

00:22:45.380 I know what brought you

00:22:46.440 out of that

00:22:47.960 and decided to say,

00:22:49.480 you know,

00:22:50.380 I need to stand

00:22:51.980 on my own here

00:22:52.700 because some things

00:22:53.500 don't make sense

00:22:54.200 and they're not right.

00:22:54.960 but what turned you,

00:22:57.580 what was the turning point

00:22:58.540 for you to say,

00:23:00.300 this,

00:23:01.380 my own party

00:23:02.780 is so dangerous

00:23:04.500 to the Republic

00:23:05.560 that I have to,

00:23:07.520 I have to sign up

00:23:09.140 and be on the side

00:23:10.020 of Donald Trump?

00:23:12.580 Well,

00:23:13.380 it wasn't one thing.

00:23:15.560 It's a consistent

00:23:17.360 pattern of hostility

00:23:19.340 to the things

00:23:20.300 that make the West

00:23:21.460 so productive,

00:23:23.840 vibrant,

00:23:24.700 and innovative.

00:23:26.560 And,

00:23:27.040 you know,

00:23:27.360 any one of those things

00:23:28.500 could be

00:23:29.320 just myopia

00:23:30.920 of some sort,

00:23:32.060 but the consistent

00:23:33.220 pattern suggests

00:23:34.360 that we are

00:23:35.500 under the control

00:23:36.440 of people

00:23:37.240 who do not

00:23:38.360 value the system

00:23:39.580 for what it is

00:23:40.420 capable of

00:23:41.120 and find

00:23:41.840 the rights

00:23:42.620 that we are guaranteed

00:23:43.680 by our Constitution

00:23:45.180 galling.

00:23:47.020 So,

00:23:47.760 I can't

00:23:48.500 stand by

00:23:49.360 and watch

00:23:50.000 that happen.

00:23:50.960 I have children.

00:23:52.420 I love them.

00:23:53.640 They need to have

00:23:55.400 a nation

00:23:56.320 and a world

00:23:57.120 that is livable,

00:23:59.260 one in which

00:23:59.740 they are not seen

00:24:00.720 as a host

00:24:03.180 to some parasitic force,

00:24:04.840 but they are understood

00:24:05.660 to be citizens

00:24:07.300 with rights.

00:24:09.880 So,

00:24:10.480 in light

00:24:11.960 of what we are up against,

00:24:14.420 what possible difference

00:24:15.860 could there be

00:24:16.400 between us

00:24:16.940 that would matter?

00:24:17.600 Hmm.

00:24:19.100 How do you talk

00:24:20.260 to people,

00:24:21.600 because you must

00:24:22.220 hear it all the time,

00:24:23.100 you must hear

00:24:23.660 from people

00:24:24.160 who say,

00:24:25.600 you know,

00:24:26.120 things,

00:24:26.660 crazy things,

00:24:27.100 like,

00:24:27.260 you're a traitor. 0.92

00:24:28.560 How could you

00:24:29.260 possibly do that?

00:24:30.060 I mean,

00:24:30.300 Donald Trump

00:24:30.800 is out of his mind

00:24:31.560 crazy,

00:24:32.220 and he's a danger, 0.62

00:24:33.400 and we're all

00:24:33.940 going to be in,

00:24:34.580 you know,

00:24:35.000 shackles and chains.

00:24:36.500 How do you talk

00:24:38.000 to those people

00:24:38.900 and get them

00:24:41.680 to see

00:24:42.440 the hypnosis

00:24:44.940 in some ways

00:24:46.180 that they're under?

00:24:48.500 Well,

00:24:49.060 I have a couple

00:24:49.800 different approaches,

00:24:52.040 but I would say

00:24:53.140 the key thing

00:24:53.940 is to recognize

00:24:54.900 that this is

00:24:57.220 a kind of hypnosis

00:24:58.520 of some sort,

00:24:59.720 and I believe

00:25:00.580 that literally,

00:25:01.960 which means

00:25:02.400 that the people

00:25:03.120 that you're talking

00:25:03.700 to who say

00:25:04.380 that,

00:25:05.440 nine out of ten

00:25:06.420 of them,

00:25:06.780 maybe 99

00:25:07.400 out of 100,

00:25:09.100 are victims

00:25:09.780 of something

00:25:10.460 that they don't

00:25:11.500 understand,

00:25:12.180 they don't see it,

00:25:13.080 and the way

00:25:13.960 to reach them

00:25:14.760 is incrementally.

00:25:18.080 The first job

00:25:19.420 is always

00:25:20.520 to let them

00:25:21.580 see your humanity

00:25:23.100 and let them

00:25:24.200 understand

00:25:24.800 that you know

00:25:25.680 what it is

00:25:26.440 that they feel

00:25:28.320 and that you're

00:25:29.900 concerned about it too,

00:25:31.400 and what you want

00:25:32.200 is to leave them

00:25:33.120 with the question,

00:25:34.560 if the person

00:25:35.240 I'm sitting across

00:25:36.500 from

00:25:36.840 sounds reasonable

00:25:38.500 to me,

00:25:39.180 they don't sound

00:25:39.920 crazy,

00:25:40.760 they don't sound

00:25:41.520 like they have

00:25:42.160 bizarre objections,

00:25:43.080 or values,

00:25:44.400 how could they

00:25:44.980 possibly have

00:25:45.840 reached such

00:25:46.360 a different

00:25:46.740 conclusion about

00:25:47.560 what we ought

00:25:48.020 to do now?

00:25:49.200 That's the question

00:25:50.060 to leave them

00:25:50.600 with.

00:25:51.220 And then,

00:25:52.000 when you return,

00:25:53.540 hopefully,

00:25:54.400 they will be

00:25:54.880 curious.

00:25:55.900 They will have

00:25:56.500 questions about

00:25:57.300 how you could

00:25:58.500 possibly be doing

00:25:59.320 something that

00:26:00.000 in their mind

00:26:00.760 is the height

00:26:02.100 of insanity.

00:26:03.980 And that's a

00:26:04.900 conversation that

00:26:05.580 most people can

00:26:06.160 have.

00:26:06.440 You'd be surprised

00:26:07.260 if you can break

00:26:08.000 through the first

00:26:08.580 layer and get

00:26:10.100 past the instinct

00:26:11.380 to either

00:26:12.340 avoid the

00:26:13.380 topic or

00:26:14.140 shut down

00:26:15.040 the counter

00:26:15.780 arguments.

00:26:16.580 There's a lot

00:26:17.320 of room to

00:26:17.760 discuss where

00:26:18.840 we are and

00:26:19.520 where we

00:26:19.820 should be

00:26:20.160 headed.

00:26:20.980 So,

00:26:21.340 we're running

00:26:22.180 out of time.

00:26:22.700 What do we

00:26:22.960 have,

00:26:23.200 50 days before

00:26:24.140 the election?

00:26:25.320 That's about

00:26:25.880 right.

00:26:26.220 Yeah.

00:26:27.160 We're running

00:26:27.960 out of time,

00:26:29.260 and I've had

00:26:30.300 really great

00:26:31.860 hope.

00:26:32.300 I mean,

00:26:32.940 you look at

00:26:33.620 the people who

00:26:34.180 are coming to

00:26:34.800 rescue the

00:26:35.200 republic.

00:26:35.760 It's Bobby

00:26:37.860 Kennedy,

00:26:38.740 and it's

00:26:39.600 Tulsi Gabbard.

00:26:40.600 You're going

00:26:41.080 to be there.

00:26:41.840 Russell Brand

00:26:42.480 is going to

00:26:42.960 be there.

00:26:43.780 Charlie Kirk

00:26:44.340 is going to

00:26:44.800 be there.

00:26:45.140 I mean,

00:26:45.820 it's a lot

00:26:47.720 of very

00:26:48.160 different people.

00:26:48.800 Some of the

00:26:49.080 best doctors

00:26:49.820 are going to

00:26:50.800 be there.

00:26:51.780 Some of the

00:26:52.420 best people

00:26:53.000 on economics

00:26:54.740 are going to

00:26:55.820 be speaking.

00:26:56.340 Very short

00:26:57.100 bursts from

00:26:58.680 everybody on

00:26:59.580 all of the

00:27:00.220 things that are

00:27:00.720 being violated

00:27:01.340 and how we

00:27:01.860 have to fix

00:27:03.620 it.

00:27:03.860 how do

00:27:07.080 we do

00:27:07.720 this in

00:27:08.100 50 days?

00:27:10.520 Well,

00:27:10.900 it's obviously

00:27:12.360 a heavy lift,

00:27:13.880 but it's also

00:27:14.640 easier than

00:27:15.900 you would

00:27:16.180 imagine.

00:27:17.900 And I'm

00:27:19.400 not sure how

00:27:20.020 to make this

00:27:20.520 point to

00:27:20.960 people,

00:27:21.440 but all

00:27:22.780 of the

00:27:23.200 political

00:27:23.620 analyses

00:27:24.620 about the

00:27:25.560 election

00:27:25.900 are inherently

00:27:27.300 wrong if

00:27:28.680 they calculate

00:27:29.560 what the

00:27:30.980 race is going 0.95

00:27:32.160 to look like

00:27:32.880 on election

00:27:33.440 day.

00:27:33.860 based on

00:27:34.820 what we

00:27:35.400 think of

00:27:35.960 as voters,

00:27:37.120 because there

00:27:38.380 is a huge

00:27:39.060 collection of

00:27:39.740 people who

00:27:41.080 are not

00:27:42.100 voting.

00:27:43.360 Some of

00:27:44.120 them don't

00:27:44.780 vote because

00:27:45.340 they're tuned

00:27:45.860 out.

00:27:46.480 There's nothing

00:27:46.900 to be done

00:27:47.380 in 50 days

00:27:48.120 about those

00:27:48.660 people,

00:27:49.280 but a huge

00:27:50.200 fraction are

00:27:51.240 actually not

00:27:51.900 voting because

00:27:52.500 they're fed

00:27:53.000 up.

00:27:53.880 Those people

00:27:54.860 can come off

00:27:55.820 the bench,

00:27:56.480 and if they

00:27:56.840 do so in

00:27:57.840 significant

00:27:58.340 numbers,

00:27:59.560 they can swing

00:28:00.340 any election.

00:28:01.740 So from

00:28:02.760 my perspective,

00:28:03.760 as somebody

00:28:04.440 who has

00:28:05.460 frankly thought

00:28:06.700 it wise to

00:28:07.800 vote against

00:28:08.460 both parties

00:28:09.740 in almost

00:28:11.200 all of the

00:28:12.560 elections that

00:28:13.180 have taken

00:28:13.520 place for

00:28:14.100 president in

00:28:14.880 my lifetime,

00:28:15.960 this is not

00:28:17.040 the moment to

00:28:17.900 do that,

00:28:18.360 and it is

00:28:18.740 certainly not

00:28:19.300 the moment to

00:28:20.040 sit out of

00:28:20.480 the election.

00:28:21.520 This is the

00:28:22.100 moment to

00:28:22.820 come off the

00:28:23.420 bench and

00:28:24.400 to stand up

00:28:25.220 for the

00:28:26.100 values that

00:28:26.940 make our

00:28:27.980 marvelous nation

00:28:29.360 possible.

00:28:30.160 If we can

00:28:31.440 get people

00:28:31.940 to recognize

00:28:32.720 that, we

00:28:33.980 can actually

00:28:34.700 make a

00:28:35.800 decisive enough

00:28:36.660 victory that

00:28:37.460 it can

00:28:37.720 overcome what

00:28:39.140 is presumably

00:28:39.720 the margin

00:28:40.760 with which

00:28:41.700 the blue

00:28:42.120 team is

00:28:42.520 capable of

00:28:43.040 cheating.

00:28:43.940 The, you

00:28:46.120 know, Elon

00:28:46.600 Musk has 0.97

00:28:47.600 said repeatedly

00:28:48.940 now that he

00:28:49.720 feels this is

00:28:50.520 pretty much it.

00:28:52.740 Western

00:28:53.340 civilization is

00:28:54.500 at stake this

00:28:56.060 time.

00:28:56.400 Now, that

00:28:56.780 sounds like

00:28:57.300 hyperbole to

00:28:58.160 a lot of

00:28:58.540 people, but

00:28:59.160 on September

00:29:00.160 11th, you

00:29:01.100 know, 2001,

00:29:03.000 we all

00:29:04.100 instinctively knew

00:29:05.160 that.

00:29:05.460 When we were

00:29:05.820 hit that day,

00:29:06.420 we all thought,

00:29:07.200 oh my gosh,

00:29:07.720 this thing is

00:29:08.160 fragile, it

00:29:08.640 could come

00:29:08.940 apart at any

00:29:09.540 minute.

00:29:10.480 And what

00:29:11.480 they were

00:29:12.320 trying to

00:29:12.980 do on

00:29:13.560 9-11 could

00:29:15.240 be done at

00:29:16.140 the ballot

00:29:16.820 box this

00:29:17.720 time and

00:29:18.800 destroy not

00:29:21.660 just America,

00:29:22.480 but the

00:29:22.780 entire Western

00:29:23.800 world.

00:29:24.940 How do you

00:29:25.440 convince people

00:29:26.200 that that

00:29:26.680 is, that's

00:29:27.780 not hyperbole?

00:29:29.160 Because most

00:29:29.780 people don't

00:29:30.160 believe it

00:29:30.540 could ever

00:29:30.920 happen.

00:29:32.880 Yes, I

00:29:33.260 truly believe

00:29:34.680 it's not

00:29:35.060 hyperbole, and

00:29:35.820 in fact, I

00:29:37.060 believe that we

00:29:37.800 are being

00:29:38.300 slowed down

00:29:39.640 in our

00:29:40.080 recognition that

00:29:40.940 it is actually

00:29:41.580 an ongoing

00:29:42.340 process.

00:29:44.320 What we are

00:29:45.040 living through

00:29:46.060 is the looting

00:29:47.380 of our system.

00:29:49.200 The resources

00:29:50.020 are being

00:29:50.640 drained out

00:29:51.680 of it because

00:29:52.400 those who

00:29:54.020 are orchestrating

00:29:54.780 this understand

00:29:55.820 that they

00:29:56.660 are pulling

00:29:57.020 the plug.

00:29:57.980 So we

00:29:58.340 need to

00:29:58.660 wake up

00:29:59.080 faster that

00:30:00.520 all of this

00:30:01.100 money printing

00:30:01.900 is not the

00:30:02.500 result of

00:30:03.080 foolishness.

00:30:04.380 This is the

00:30:04.940 end game.

00:30:06.000 The same can

00:30:06.480 be said of

00:30:06.940 the bubbles

00:30:07.600 that we see

00:30:08.920 in our

00:30:09.720 markets.

00:30:10.780 And the

00:30:11.240 fact that

00:30:11.680 they have

00:30:12.280 come up

00:30:12.720 with

00:30:13.040 rationalizations

00:30:14.200 for

00:30:15.140 eliminating

00:30:15.880 our most

00:30:17.100 fundamental

00:30:17.640 right to

00:30:18.800 freedom of

00:30:19.380 speech tells

00:30:20.640 you that this

00:30:21.620 is the end

00:30:22.180 of the

00:30:22.400 process.

00:30:23.160 This is the

00:30:23.680 point at

00:30:24.260 which they

00:30:24.560 do not

00:30:24.920 want us

00:30:25.240 to be able

00:30:25.920 to talk

00:30:26.400 about what

00:30:26.820 they're doing

00:30:27.480 because it's

00:30:28.420 going to go

00:30:28.920 on fast

00:30:29.480 forward.

00:30:30.180 So I don't

00:30:30.540 think Elon

00:30:31.020 is being

00:30:31.960 hyperbolic at

00:30:32.740 all.

00:30:33.020 I think he's

00:30:33.420 right on

00:30:33.760 target.

00:30:35.100 I do too

00:30:36.200 and I'm so

00:30:37.740 glad to see

00:30:38.560 people that

00:30:39.540 are open

00:30:41.700 minded

00:30:42.260 and generally

00:30:45.220 don't vote

00:30:46.660 the same way

00:30:47.160 I do

00:30:47.560 come to the

00:30:48.480 same conclusion

00:30:49.200 and understand

00:30:49.900 where we

00:30:50.500 are.

00:30:51.280 So tell

00:30:51.700 me a

00:30:53.080 little bit

00:30:53.480 about the

00:30:54.020 event on

00:30:54.540 September 29th

00:30:55.420 in Washington.

00:30:57.540 So the

00:30:58.300 event is a

00:30:59.420 free event.

00:31:00.920 We are

00:31:01.700 hoping for a

00:31:02.260 very large

00:31:02.800 turnout for a

00:31:03.560 couple of

00:31:03.900 different reasons.

00:31:05.460 One reason

00:31:06.480 is that it

00:31:07.840 will make it

00:31:08.840 obvious that

00:31:09.600 the support

00:31:10.240 for this

00:31:11.040 new unity

00:31:12.540 coalition is

00:31:14.060 tremendous and

00:31:15.420 that will make

00:31:15.880 it very hard

00:31:16.440 to sell the

00:31:16.980 story that

00:31:18.100 Kamala Harris

00:31:19.180 has been

00:31:20.640 swept to

00:31:21.120 victory by

00:31:21.920 a wave of

00:31:23.200 support.

00:31:24.120 The other

00:31:24.680 reason though

00:31:25.380 is that

00:31:26.060 seeing people

00:31:27.400 flesh and

00:31:28.020 blood people

00:31:28.640 gathering across

00:31:30.260 political

00:31:30.740 differences

00:31:31.300 putting ideology

00:31:33.520 aside is

00:31:34.980 going to be

00:31:35.480 meaningful to

00:31:36.480 the large

00:31:36.940 number of

00:31:37.440 people who

00:31:38.280 are debating

00:31:38.960 in their own

00:31:39.540 minds whether

00:31:40.280 or not to

00:31:40.900 vote or to

00:31:41.640 sit this one

00:31:42.240 out.

00:31:42.660 We need to

00:31:43.360 motivate them

00:31:44.120 and motivating

00:31:44.740 them in large

00:31:45.940 numbers will

00:31:47.000 do two things.

00:31:48.000 One it will

00:31:48.900 make it

00:31:49.200 possible to

00:31:50.180 win this

00:31:50.540 election

00:31:50.900 decisively and

00:31:52.420 two it will

00:31:53.220 make the

00:31:53.800 point to

00:31:54.880 the new

00:31:55.220 administration

00:31:55.840 that really

00:31:57.140 governing from

00:31:58.400 this vast

00:31:59.920 storehouse of

00:32:01.540 talent and

00:32:02.280 insight that

00:32:03.280 exists in the

00:32:04.000 unity coalition

00:32:04.840 is the right

00:32:05.980 way to

00:32:06.320 accomplish the

00:32:06.980 job.

00:32:07.580 This needs to

00:32:08.340 be a new

00:32:08.820 era in which

00:32:09.920 frankly the

00:32:11.020 republic

00:32:11.360 the new

00:32:14.260 democratic

00:32:15.360 party is

00:32:16.180 removed from

00:32:16.700 power.

00:32:17.200 I'm sorry

00:32:17.520 you cut out

00:32:18.760 the last

00:32:19.160 sentence or

00:32:19.620 so.

00:32:20.300 What did

00:32:20.540 you say?

00:32:21.220 I said

00:32:22.080 that if we

00:32:23.680 get a large

00:32:24.160 turnout that

00:32:25.320 this will make

00:32:25.740 the point that

00:32:26.900 this unity

00:32:27.520 coalition which

00:32:28.660 contains so

00:32:29.240 much talent and

00:32:29.940 insight is the

00:32:31.880 proper team to

00:32:33.660 usher in a new

00:32:34.660 era in which

00:32:36.360 the republican

00:32:37.340 party is

00:32:38.040 transformed into

00:32:39.120 something new

00:32:39.820 and the

00:32:40.280 democratic party

00:32:41.080 is removed

00:32:41.660 from power.

00:32:42.740 That is

00:32:42.980 remarkable and

00:32:44.660 I have to tell

00:32:45.200 you I'm so

00:32:45.660 excited for

00:32:46.400 Elon Musk

00:32:47.420 and Robert

00:32:49.020 F.

00:32:49.440 Kennedy and

00:32:50.240 Tulsi and

00:32:51.160 all of the

00:32:51.600 people now

00:32:52.220 we're getting

00:32:53.260 the real

00:32:54.780 innovative

00:32:56.580 thinkers to

00:32:57.720 join with

00:32:58.600 Trump and

00:32:59.580 I think that

00:33:00.660 it promises to

00:33:02.240 be a

00:33:03.100 completely

00:33:03.820 different world

00:33:05.200 if he takes

00:33:07.000 advantage of it

00:33:07.800 and the

00:33:08.400 American people

00:33:09.040 take advantage

00:33:09.680 of this team

00:33:10.460 that is

00:33:10.900 growing.

00:33:12.640 Thank you so

00:33:13.540 much.

00:33:13.980 I want to

00:33:15.160 encourage you

00:33:16.320 to not only

00:33:17.180 go to

00:33:18.820 rescue the

00:33:19.380 republic, it

00:33:20.080 is happening

00:33:20.620 September 29th

00:33:21.980 in Washington

00:33:22.540 D.C., but

00:33:24.240 also if you

00:33:25.320 can, you can

00:33:26.620 show your

00:33:27.120 support by

00:33:27.940 donating.

00:33:28.940 This is a

00:33:29.440 very worthy

00:33:30.220 cause.

00:33:30.660 This is

00:33:30.980 honestly, this

00:33:31.920 is the 9-12

00:33:32.900 project from

00:33:34.940 the people we

00:33:36.360 would have said

00:33:36.780 are the other

00:33:37.200 side.

00:33:37.560 they agree

00:33:38.820 with the

00:33:39.360 principles that

00:33:40.140 we put out.

00:33:41.600 This is so

00:33:43.560 incredibly

00:33:44.840 hopeful and

00:33:45.840 important and

00:33:47.580 I know what

00:33:48.180 it's like to

00:33:48.820 put this

00:33:49.220 together,

00:33:49.700 especially with

00:33:51.440 the names that

00:33:52.000 they're bringing

00:33:52.400 in.

00:33:52.760 Mike, gosh,

00:33:53.420 you have

00:33:53.640 everybody under

00:33:54.260 the sun.

00:33:55.240 They asked me

00:33:55.820 to speak and

00:33:56.360 I was like,

00:33:57.220 no, I think I

00:33:58.040 can just go and

00:33:58.720 listen.

00:33:59.340 I don't think I

00:34:00.120 need to speak.

00:34:01.520 like RFK Jr.,

00:34:02.980 Russell Brand,

00:34:03.640 Tulsi Gabbard,

00:34:04.360 Matt Taibbi,

00:34:05.320 Laura Logan,

00:34:06.360 everybody is

00:34:08.240 going to be

00:34:08.620 there.

00:34:09.280 If you can

00:34:09.980 donate, please

00:34:11.440 join the

00:34:12.140 resistance.org

00:34:13.500 slash donate.

00:34:14.540 Join the

00:34:14.980 resistance.org

00:34:16.200 slash donate.

00:34:17.240 It is critical

00:34:18.100 as the government

00:34:19.340 always makes

00:34:19.880 things more and

00:34:20.540 more expensive

00:34:21.120 as you get

00:34:21.680 closer and

00:34:22.180 closer.

00:34:23.000 Join the

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00:34:24.560 slash donate.

00:34:25.800 And it's

00:34:26.060 happening next

00:34:27.180 weekend, September

00:34:28.960 29th, right at

00:34:30.860 the Washington

00:34:31.440 Memorial in

00:34:32.340 Washington, D.C.

00:34:34.060 Brett, thank you

00:34:34.640 so much.

00:34:35.520 We'll talk again.

00:34:37.420 This is the

00:34:38.400 best of the

00:34:39.220 Glenn Beck

00:34:39.920 program.

00:34:46.760 Welcome to the

00:34:47.700 program, Carol

00:34:48.640 Roth.

00:34:49.380 I'm hoping you

00:34:50.400 can make sense

00:34:51.320 and maybe some

00:34:52.320 good news out

00:34:53.220 of what happened

00:34:54.040 yesterday because

00:34:55.020 I can't find a

00:34:56.260 way to it

00:34:57.180 because of the

00:34:59.660 history of

00:35:00.640 cutting the

00:35:01.220 interest rate

00:35:01.800 this much.

00:35:02.860 My first

00:35:03.300 thought was

00:35:04.000 this is

00:35:04.640 election

00:35:04.960 interference by

00:35:05.760 the Fed.

00:35:07.260 My second

00:35:08.040 thought was

00:35:08.640 when did

00:35:08.980 they last

00:35:09.440 do this?

00:35:10.440 And it

00:35:10.960 didn't lead

00:35:11.400 neither of

00:35:12.000 those lead

00:35:12.400 to good

00:35:12.660 things.

00:35:13.080 So what's

00:35:13.420 really going

00:35:14.060 on here,

00:35:14.700 Carol?

00:35:15.500 Well, first

00:35:16.180 of all, Glenn,

00:35:16.640 I just want

00:35:17.040 you to know

00:35:17.400 that I am

00:35:17.880 unburdened by

00:35:18.780 what has

00:35:19.220 been and

00:35:19.920 now the

00:35:20.520 market is

00:35:23.360 in terms of

00:35:23.920 interest rates

00:35:24.520 because we

00:35:25.060 are in a

00:35:25.500 rate-cutting

00:35:26.260 environment.

00:35:27.720 And I think

00:35:28.360 the important

00:35:28.900 thing to

00:35:29.460 remember is

00:35:30.400 that when

00:35:30.900 we talk

00:35:31.440 about, you

00:35:32.220 know, rake

00:35:32.600 heights, rake

00:35:33.240 cuts, anything

00:35:34.220 the Fed's

00:35:34.700 doing, we

00:35:35.080 have to keep

00:35:35.760 it in

00:35:36.180 context.

00:35:37.380 And the

00:35:37.660 backdrop is

00:35:38.500 that we

00:35:38.760 came out

00:35:39.400 of 15

00:35:40.220 years of

00:35:41.420 what's

00:35:41.660 called

00:35:42.000 ZERB,

00:35:42.620 zero interest

00:35:43.440 rate policy,

00:35:44.640 where the

00:35:45.260 interest rates

00:35:45.880 were at or

00:35:46.580 near zero,

00:35:47.540 unprecedented,

00:35:48.720 as well as

00:35:49.440 the Fed

00:35:49.800 putting $9

00:35:50.580 trillion plus

00:35:51.980 on its

00:35:52.520 balance sheet.

00:35:53.480 So this is

00:35:53.940 an unprecedented,

00:35:55.780 does not have

00:35:56.560 an analog

00:35:57.180 that we

00:35:57.760 can directly

00:35:58.400 compare to.

00:35:59.320 Not to say

00:35:59.720 that it's not

00:36:00.300 important to

00:36:00.960 go back and

00:36:01.480 look at what's

00:36:02.060 happened historically,

00:36:02.940 but it doesn't

00:36:03.580 mean exactly the

00:36:04.380 same thing.

00:36:05.360 And cutting 50

00:36:06.380 basis points or

00:36:07.300 half a percent

00:36:08.040 today is

00:36:09.320 different than

00:36:09.960 when we're

00:36:10.280 cutting it when

00:36:11.200 interest rates

00:36:11.880 are at 2%.

00:36:12.520 So I just

00:36:12.920 wanted to put

00:36:13.500 that out.

00:36:14.040 I also am

00:36:14.660 somebody who,

00:36:15.660 as you know,

00:36:16.040 I've said on

00:36:16.440 this program many

00:36:17.140 times that I

00:36:17.760 think the Fed's

00:36:18.340 been way behind

00:36:19.240 the curve.

00:36:19.980 I think that

00:36:20.420 they went up

00:36:21.100 too high and

00:36:22.120 that they were

00:36:22.500 too slow to

00:36:23.700 cut to begin

00:36:25.000 with.

00:36:25.260 So we'll put

00:36:25.660 that from a

00:36:26.360 backdrop

00:36:26.660 standpoint.

00:36:27.860 So how does

00:36:28.860 the market

00:36:29.780 interpret and

00:36:31.280 how should

00:36:31.660 individuals

00:36:32.320 interpret a

00:36:33.160 cut?

00:36:33.380 Well, there's

00:36:33.740 the potentially

00:36:34.480 the bad and

00:36:35.200 potentially the

00:36:35.760 good.

00:36:36.000 So we'll walk

00:36:36.440 through both of

00:36:37.020 those real

00:36:37.360 quickly.

00:36:38.280 So the

00:36:38.660 potential bad

00:36:39.860 is the signal

00:36:40.860 when you are

00:36:41.500 saying that the

00:36:42.180 economy is doing

00:36:43.600 amazing and it's

00:36:44.860 just, you know,

00:36:45.240 it's ripping along

00:36:46.320 and then to do a

00:36:47.700 very large cut.

00:36:48.880 They could have

00:36:49.380 done half of

00:36:50.600 that.

00:36:50.820 They could have

00:36:51.180 done 25 basis

00:36:52.280 points, but to

00:36:52.900 come out after

00:36:53.680 not doing anything

00:36:54.560 and say, oh,

00:36:55.160 we got to move

00:36:56.100 50 points, can

00:36:57.400 send a signal to

00:36:58.400 say things are

00:36:59.200 not going so

00:37:00.100 well.

00:37:00.620 If you looked at

00:37:01.420 the market

00:37:01.840 yesterday, they

00:37:03.400 were not taking

00:37:04.300 the news so

00:37:04.780 great.

00:37:05.240 But they went

00:37:05.680 up and then

00:37:06.780 when he cut

00:37:07.300 it, it went

00:37:07.900 way down.

00:37:08.960 And then it

00:37:09.360 went, they gave

00:37:09.900 up back all the

00:37:10.560 gains yesterday,

00:37:11.140 but today they've

00:37:12.340 had a day to

00:37:13.160 digest it and the

00:37:14.140 market thinks that

00:37:15.160 this is a good

00:37:15.760 thing.

00:37:16.120 Now the market's

00:37:16.680 not the economy.

00:37:17.420 But again, after

00:37:21.060 15 years of

00:37:23.300 zero interest rate

00:37:24.560 policy, it does

00:37:26.440 make sense for

00:37:27.100 us to get back

00:37:28.000 to what's

00:37:28.600 considered a

00:37:29.420 neutral rate.

00:37:30.540 Is this a

00:37:32.080 inflationary move

00:37:33.220 though?

00:37:34.240 So that's the

00:37:35.080 question.

00:37:35.620 So if you think

00:37:36.200 about what the

00:37:37.100 neutral rate is,

00:37:37.900 which is

00:37:38.220 theoretical, we

00:37:38.880 don't know the

00:37:39.540 number, but

00:37:40.080 basically it's the

00:37:40.960 dividing line

00:37:41.940 between policy that

00:37:43.380 is restrictive and

00:37:44.880 policy that is

00:37:45.900 accommodative.

00:37:47.040 And what we're

00:37:47.480 trying to do is

00:37:48.580 have the Fed have

00:37:49.380 no influence in

00:37:50.620 either direction.

00:37:51.840 I believe that we

00:37:53.080 are still in that

00:37:54.360 restrictive area.

00:37:56.120 So bringing it

00:37:56.780 down to four,

00:37:58.940 three quarters to

00:37:59.720 five percent, again,

00:38:01.180 is not the same as

00:38:02.000 bringing it down to

00:38:03.080 two percent.

00:38:04.440 And so I don't

00:38:05.280 think that will

00:38:06.480 cause inflation.

00:38:07.300 We have to

00:38:07.540 remember, too,

00:38:08.140 again, going back

00:38:09.080 to where I

00:38:09.460 started, companies

00:38:11.180 and individuals had

00:38:12.440 15 years to

00:38:14.320 take out debt

00:38:15.360 at basically no

00:38:16.640 cost.

00:38:17.240 This is sitting

00:38:18.000 on companies'

00:38:19.200 balance sheets.

00:38:19.940 They took every

00:38:21.080 piece that they

00:38:21.740 could.

00:38:22.600 And consumers

00:38:23.240 right now don't

00:38:23.940 have a lot of

00:38:24.640 runway.

00:38:25.520 So the idea of

00:38:27.060 a rate cut

00:38:27.960 unleashing massive

00:38:29.340 demand when we've

00:38:30.920 gone to fours,

00:38:32.740 three quarters to

00:38:33.540 five percent, I

00:38:34.360 don't see this as

00:38:35.660 something that's

00:38:36.160 going to unleash

00:38:36.940 massive demand.

00:38:37.760 So here's, I

00:38:39.180 just love your

00:38:39.840 opinion on this.

00:38:40.880 As a businessman,

00:38:42.900 I know I

00:38:43.900 wouldn't be

00:38:44.400 spending a dime

00:38:45.740 right now on

00:38:46.780 hiring, building

00:38:47.840 anything, not a

00:38:50.160 dime, until I see

00:38:51.600 what happens at

00:38:52.300 the election.

00:38:53.700 And depending on

00:38:55.000 the election, if

00:38:56.080 we go with

00:38:57.600 Harris and we

00:38:58.480 become much more

00:38:59.440 restrictive and

00:39:00.240 harder and more

00:39:01.120 global and

00:39:01.860 everything else,

00:39:03.320 I mean, then I'm

00:39:05.000 just battening down

00:39:05.720 the hatches.

00:39:06.560 If Trump gets in,

00:39:08.120 I'd be willing to

00:39:09.260 invest because,

00:39:10.740 all right, good,

00:39:11.400 we've got somebody

00:39:11.960 who understands

00:39:12.500 business, we can

00:39:13.280 hire some more

00:39:13.880 people, et cetera,

00:39:14.560 et cetera.

00:39:15.020 I don't see

00:39:15.820 anybody making

00:39:16.820 those moves

00:39:18.780 rationally, no

00:39:19.720 matter what the

00:39:20.300 interest rate is

00:39:21.300 at this point.

00:39:23.840 Do you?

00:39:24.700 I think that's a

00:39:25.940 logical way to

00:39:26.840 digest it.

00:39:27.800 I think that in

00:39:28.660 terms of one of

00:39:29.600 your first

00:39:29.960 statements is,

00:39:30.620 is this political?

00:39:32.960 The Biden-Harris

00:39:34.260 administration are

00:39:35.300 going to be pushing

00:39:36.040 out and saying,

00:39:36.940 look, we've got

00:39:37.560 inflation under

00:39:38.800 control.

00:39:39.540 The Fed said so,

00:39:40.520 otherwise they

00:39:41.180 wouldn't have

00:39:41.680 lowered it and

00:39:42.500 lowered it by so

00:39:43.580 much.

00:39:44.380 So I think that

00:39:45.160 is the push that

00:39:46.740 they're going out

00:39:47.440 and trying to

00:39:48.460 convince people.

00:39:49.500 Now, they've been

00:39:49.980 trying to convince

00:39:50.620 people of things

00:39:51.360 that make absolutely

00:39:52.220 no sense for the

00:39:53.220 last three and a

00:39:53.880 half years.

00:39:54.800 So, you know, if

00:39:55.420 I'm a business

00:39:55.940 person, do I go

00:39:57.340 ahead and make

00:39:58.800 the investments?

00:40:00.180 Probably not, but

00:40:01.380 are there some

00:40:02.020 people who might?

00:40:03.460 You know, it's a

00:40:04.660 push.

00:40:05.400 But I do think,

00:40:06.860 you know, the

00:40:07.140 challenge is it

00:40:07.740 becomes a self-fulfilling

00:40:08.980 prophecy that if you

00:40:10.120 get worried that

00:40:11.380 there is a

00:40:12.000 recession and you

00:40:12.820 create these

00:40:13.560 restrictive

00:40:14.080 behaviors, that

00:40:16.300 becomes self-fulfilling

00:40:17.600 and that's one of

00:40:18.360 the things that we

00:40:19.040 end up worrying

00:40:19.560 about.

00:40:20.160 All right, so let

00:40:20.840 me just ask you

00:40:21.440 one more thing.

00:40:22.180 He mentioned the

00:40:23.440 problem with

00:40:24.620 unemployment.

00:40:25.360 Unemployment's

00:40:25.800 going on because

00:40:26.380 you just added

00:40:27.140 7 to 20 million

00:40:28.200 people to, you

00:40:29.360 know, the

00:40:29.900 country.

00:40:31.840 It is, I

00:40:33.940 mean, people are

00:40:35.200 saying anecdotally

00:40:36.360 that, and we are,

00:40:38.340 I guess, seeing

00:40:39.000 it in numbers

00:40:39.760 that the jobs

00:40:41.560 that are being

00:40:42.380 filled are being

00:40:43.060 filled with illegals 0.92

00:40:43.920 and not American 0.80

00:40:44.760 citizens.

00:40:45.540 How long can that

00:40:46.760 go on before it's

00:40:47.840 just, you know,

00:40:49.880 an absolute wreck?

00:40:52.400 So the way that I've

00:40:53.700 interpreted the

00:40:54.540 economy is I see it

00:40:56.120 as K-shaped.

00:40:57.360 If you think about

00:40:57.960 the letter K, you

00:40:58.940 have, you know, that

00:40:59.640 one part of the K

00:41:00.660 that goes up and the

00:41:01.660 other part that goes

00:41:02.520 down.

00:41:03.120 And you have the

00:41:03.980 people who are at

00:41:04.980 the lower end of the

00:41:06.460 K who have been

00:41:07.320 struggling and the

00:41:08.580 people who are at

00:41:09.580 that higher part of

00:41:10.980 the K, the asset

00:41:11.740 holders, the people

00:41:12.720 with the white

00:41:13.280 collar jobs and the

00:41:14.300 homes who have been

00:41:15.000 doing well.

00:41:16.140 And you have to

00:41:16.660 remember that what

00:41:17.420 we've been seeing is

00:41:18.740 it really is that

00:41:19.560 higher part of the

00:41:20.640 K that has been

00:41:21.560 pulling the economy

00:41:22.540 along.

00:41:23.480 So not only do we

00:41:24.600 have those illegals

00:41:25.760 who are coming in

00:41:26.740 and creating drains

00:41:27.840 on everything,

00:41:28.760 right?

00:41:28.920 They're creating

00:41:29.480 drains on employment,

00:41:31.180 on the national debt,

00:41:32.580 on housing,

00:41:33.620 on everything.

00:41:34.360 But we're also

00:41:35.640 starting to see

00:41:36.700 these cracks in the

00:41:38.280 white collar labor

00:41:39.240 market.

00:41:39.960 When you hear Amazon

00:41:41.200 saying, oh, we want

00:41:42.300 everybody back in the

00:41:43.620 office, it means that

00:41:45.180 companies now have the

00:41:46.680 power to demand that

00:41:47.820 when they didn't have

00:41:48.640 the power.

00:41:49.420 And buried in that

00:41:50.320 statement was, oh,

00:41:51.280 we're trying to get

00:41:52.000 rid of some managers.

00:41:53.340 We've seen more and

00:41:54.260 more layoffs on the

00:41:55.460 tech side.

00:41:56.420 So if we see that

00:41:57.920 crack from the

00:41:59.220 white collar piece,

00:42:00.500 I think, at least in

00:42:02.080 the short term, that's

00:42:03.160 going to have the

00:42:03.920 biggest impact on

00:42:05.200 shifting what's going

00:42:06.260 to happen here.

00:42:07.240 And I think that's

00:42:07.980 what the Fed is

00:42:09.040 signaling they're

00:42:09.660 trying to get ahead

00:42:10.860 of.

00:42:11.560 Whether or not they

00:42:12.400 can do that remains

00:42:13.360 to be seen because

00:42:14.140 usually they're always

00:42:15.140 late.

00:42:15.760 But it's true.

00:42:16.580 We have a drag on

00:42:17.600 both sides.

00:42:18.320 We have that drag

00:42:19.120 that's happening on

00:42:20.160 the white collar

00:42:20.700 piece.

00:42:21.200 And then we have

00:42:21.960 this massive illegal

00:42:23.160 immigration that's

00:42:24.140 putting strains on

00:42:25.060 the system.

00:42:26.040 And, you know, that

00:42:27.000 is going to, you

00:42:28.100 know, completely

00:42:28.520 shift things.

00:42:29.400 And I will say,

00:42:29.980 Glenn, you know, we

00:42:30.740 hear all of these

00:42:31.420 people talking about

00:42:33.060 technology and

00:42:35.000 AI and how it's

00:42:36.140 going to replace

00:42:36.980 jobs.

00:42:38.120 You know, if you

00:42:38.560 think that it's

00:42:39.360 going to replace

00:42:40.260 jobs, the jobs

00:42:40.920 that are going to

00:42:41.280 replace are unskilled 1.00

00:42:42.720 workers, right?

00:42:43.400 The person who's

00:42:44.060 making your burrito

00:42:45.540 at Chipotle and

00:42:46.420 the like, you could

00:42:47.560 possibly make an

00:42:48.800 argument that we do

00:42:50.080 not need any more

00:42:51.340 legal immigration in

00:42:53.260 this country with

00:42:54.200 the exception of

00:42:54.840 some very high

00:42:55.620 merit-based people

00:42:56.740 at all.

00:42:57.980 In addition to

00:42:59.380 this, you know,

00:42:59.940 travesty that's

00:43:00.660 happening with the

00:43:01.340 illegal immigration.

00:43:02.520 So this is going

00:43:03.420 to be, you know,

00:43:04.220 hopefully we can

00:43:04.980 get President

00:43:05.520 Trump in there,

00:43:06.840 but this needs to

00:43:07.820 be attacked in a

00:43:08.840 serious fashion

00:43:09.920 because it's going

00:43:10.560 to have massive

00:43:11.320 implications for

00:43:12.220 the economy on

00:43:13.260 top of the

00:43:14.340 biggest issue,

00:43:15.380 and it feeds

00:43:15.800 right into it,

00:43:16.740 which is the

00:43:17.900 debt and the

00:43:18.920 deficit spending

00:43:19.600 that continues to

00:43:20.540 grow that debt,

00:43:21.360 the fact that

00:43:21.760 that's unwieldy.

00:43:23.160 So all of these

00:43:23.880 things are puzzle

00:43:24.820 pieces, but we

00:43:25.680 can't let the

00:43:26.400 noise about a

00:43:27.560 Fed rate cut or

00:43:28.420 what's happening

00:43:29.040 distract us from

00:43:30.220 that big issue.

00:43:31.280 We need to

00:43:32.220 grow the economy

00:43:33.100 and we need to

00:43:33.800 reduce spending so

00:43:34.840 we can get debt to

00:43:35.680 GDP back to a

00:43:36.820 normalized level and

00:43:38.560 be able to save our

00:43:39.520 country.

00:43:40.660 Carol, thank you.

00:43:41.440 Appreciate it.

00:43:42.180 Carol Roth, the

00:43:43.140 author of You Will

00:43:43.960 Own Nothing,

00:43:44.680 former investment

00:43:45.320 banker and

00:43:45.980 contributor to

00:43:47.720 Blaze and also to

00:43:49.240 this program.

00:43:50.100 I just love her.

00:43:50.720 She explains things

00:43:51.780 the way, you know,

00:43:53.060 people like me talk

00:43:54.300 or just regular

00:43:55.100 people.

00:43:55.940 Carol, thank you

00:43:56.420 so much.

00:43:56.840 It's carolroth.com

00:43:58.960 slash news,

00:44:00.300 carolroth.com

00:44:01.520 slash news.

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