On this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck talks about the massive pro-Second Amendment rally in support of gun rights in Virginia. Also, Alan Dershowitz, who is now on the Trump team in the impeachment trial, explains what the media is complaining about. Steve Dace talks about Iowa caucus, and how much trouble will Tanya be in when she gets home after a week away.
00:00:00.000Hey, it's Monday's podcast. Great one. We start with Martin Luther King Day, and I thought it was appropriate that people are voicing their opinion on their rights in Virginia with a big gun rally.
00:00:11.600We have several people talking about that today. Also, Alan Dershowitz, who is now on the Trump team, the impeachment trial.
00:00:18.300He explains what the media is complaining about. Also, your rights, for instance, gun rights.
00:00:23.660I try to explain this to the media and the left of exactly how we feel, but I turned it around on something that would matter to them.
00:00:33.700Steve Dace talks about the Iowa caucus. Burgess Owens is with us.
00:00:37.960And how much trouble am I in when Tanya finally gets home after a week away?
00:00:44.120We have Cam Edwards on now. He's the host of Bearing Arms, Cam and Company, and co-host of 40 Acres and a Fool.
00:01:04.900It can be heard here on Blaze Radio and TV Network. Just go to blazetv.com and sign up now.
00:01:12.280Cam is in Virginia, and he's actually at the state capitol, where they have just started screening people for security to be able to get in.
00:01:21.560He's also going to be speaking today in front of the capitol. Welcome to the program, Cam. How are you?
00:01:28.500I'm good, Glenn. Thanks so much for having me back.
00:01:30.600So, when I was in Israel, and I was doing a big project over there called Restoring Courage, the State Department was very well aware, and George Soros was very aware of what we were doing.
00:01:43.380And they did everything they could to discourage people from coming.
00:01:47.760The State Department actually issued the day of.
00:01:51.420All Americans should not be anywhere near the Temple Mount because of security on that day.
00:01:58.020I feel like the same thing is being done in Virginia.
00:02:02.420Is there a real sense of foreboding and danger there, or do you think this is hype?
00:02:08.100You know, honestly, Glenn, I've got to tell you, I mean, there are tens of thousands of Virginians that are downtown right now.
00:02:15.440And the mood here is not one of fear and foreboding.
00:02:19.100You've got a lot of folks with smiles on their faces.
00:02:21.360They're energized to see their fellow gun owners.
00:02:23.940I talked with folks from Lebanon, Virginia, which is about a six-hour drive from Richmond.
00:02:28.120They headed out last night and arrived.
00:02:30.320There are folks coming in from all across the state and really even, you know, all across the country.
00:02:34.940I talked to the gentleman who drove up from North Carolina, not to start any trouble, but because he wanted to stand with Virginians in support of their Second Amendment rights.
00:02:41.800And, you know, so far, that is what we have seen here.
00:02:44.880There are several thousand people on the grounds of the state capitol.
00:02:48.040There are far more surrounding the state capitol outside of that security perimeter.
00:03:23.900There is one entrance into the capitol.
00:03:25.820There are multiple magnetometers set up by the capitol police.
00:03:29.820The folks are being screened as they go in.
00:03:31.400And there is a steady stream of folks coming in.
00:03:34.000But, yes, outside of that perimeter, there are a lot of folks who are carrying, either concealed.
00:03:39.220I have seen a number of folks who are open carrying rifles.
00:03:42.820You know, Glenn, it's a very broad crowd.
00:03:46.740I mean, you've got moms and dads who are here with their kids.
00:03:49.500You've got folks who are, you know, up in their militia outfits.
00:03:53.840You've got, you know, black, white, young, old.
00:03:56.540It really is a cross-section of Virginia.
00:03:59.320But everybody is getting along, and I think everybody is here.
00:04:02.180I believe the vast majority of the folks here are here for that one purpose, to lobby lawmakers, to oppose what Ralph Northam is trying to do.
00:04:23.320Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.
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00:04:44.920He absolutely is entitled to the best constitutional defense he can get.
00:04:50.260What he's not entitled to is Alan pretending like he's some sort of neutral observer instead of what he is, which is Donald Trump's lawyer.
00:04:59.560For some reason, you don't want to admit that, and that's up to you, but you are pretending that there is some sort of perfect constitutional sweet spot.
00:05:11.120It doesn't have to be a crime, but it can't be simply being a bad president.
00:05:16.880That there is some magical area in there that is an impeachable offense, and I think, straightforwardly, that abuse of power, the framers recognized it.
00:05:27.880That's what's the issue in this case, and the senators are perfectly capable of determining whether what the president did is a violation of his own.
00:05:37.280Alan Dershowitz is here, and I want to ask you, Alan, maybe I've missed this, but they're not accusing him of abuse of power, are they?
00:05:45.660They're saying that he refused to acquiesce to Congress.
00:05:53.160Well, there are two articles of impeachment.
00:05:55.620The second is obstruction of Congress, and that's just a false accusation.
00:06:04.060The president's entitled to leave it to the courts to decide whether or not members of the executive have to comply with subpoenas, but they do also charge him in the Ukraine matter with abuse of power.
00:06:14.920But abuse of power was discussed by the framers.
00:06:17.380It was given as a reason why we should have impeachment in the Constitution at all.
00:06:22.920But then when it came to coming up with criteria for impeachment, the framers refused to include abuse of power because it was too broad, too open-ended.
00:06:31.860And in the words of James Madison, who's the father of our Constitution, would leave presidents to serve at the will of Congress.
00:06:39.560And that's exactly what the framers didn't want, which is why they were very specific and said a president can be impeached only for treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.
00:07:12.340For example, if somebody shot the king's deer in the king's park, that would be regarded as a misdemeanor, but he could lose his head over it.
00:07:21.380It's just that his blood wouldn't be attainted, his family wouldn't be suffering, but because it wasn't a felony, but the misdemeanors could be very, very serious.
00:07:31.260They also included things like maladministration, but the frame is explicitly rejected.
00:07:37.200There was actually a vote on maladministration, and it went down, I think, nine to two or something like that.
00:07:44.360And then the person who offered that amendment withdrew it and substituted high crimes and misdemeanors.
00:07:50.560I've now read, I think, every word of every framer debating impeachment, and I've also, of course, read the Federalist Papers, and I've read the statements made by the lawyers in the trial of Andrew Johnson.
00:08:04.280And I think I'm pretty well prepared to help inform the senators.
00:08:09.120Jeffrey Toobin seems to think somehow it's a sin for me to be presenting my case to the Senate because I'm not involved in every aspect of the –
00:08:22.340Very often I come into a case as of counsel on the constitutional issues, and I don't get involved in the day-to-day issues in the case, but I just present on the constitutional issues.
00:08:34.120And that's precisely what I'm doing in this case.
00:08:36.240It's consistent with what I've done in many, many other prior cases.
00:08:40.060And there's nothing unusual about it, but people don't want to address my arguments on the merits.
00:08:46.260What they want to do is attack me personally, and that's what's happened in this country.
00:08:50.240Everything's become a personal attack.
00:09:11.200If they're charging abuse of power in the Ukraine, they're saying basically that he was trying to withhold money, et cetera, et cetera.
00:09:21.240But how can you prove that without going into what the president was concerned about on the abuse of the Ukrainians through the State Department, you know, through our embassy in 2016, and also the use of our money being laundered and shipped back to Hunter Biden?
00:09:47.200How can you possibly make this case without going into what the president said, I need you to look into these things?
00:09:57.360Well, I think there's a fair point to that.
00:09:59.780And if witnesses are called by the Democrats, obviously witnesses will have to be called by the Republicans.
00:10:05.160And one of the issues will be when the president said on the telephone call to the president of Ukraine, I need you to look into whether or not there was an investigation.
00:10:20.220Because remember, we do have a conversation between Joe Biden, who I like and I've known for many, many years.
00:10:28.560But there is that conversation, which he said he told the Ukrainians that unless they fire the prosecutor within six hours, the money will be withheld.
00:10:36.760Now, the question is, was that prosecutor corrupt?
00:10:46.840And that will have to be – look, I don't think abuse of power is a constitutionally impeachable offense, regardless of who does it.
00:10:54.180I don't distinguish between Democrats and Republicans.
00:10:56.840But I think that all these things would have to be looked at, and the trial would be interminable.
00:11:02.200It would take forever if a witness is a call.
00:11:04.920But if that's what the Senate wants, excuse me, they have the authority to do it because they make the decisions.
00:11:11.700So wouldn't abuse of power be like what Nixon was doing, using federal agencies for his own – wouldn't abuse of power be Barack Obama with the IRS or his administration with the IRS?
00:11:27.420Well, with Nixon, he committed crimes.
00:11:30.600At least he was accused of committing crimes.
00:11:32.300That is, paying hush money to witnesses.
00:11:35.880He was accused of telling his associates to lie to the FBI, of erasing a tape.
00:11:41.260All of those would be criminal if they could be proved, whereas what's alleged against President Trump is not criminal.
00:11:48.860If they had criminal issues to allege, you could be sure they would have done it.
00:11:53.560If they could establish bribery or treason, they would have done it, but they didn't.
00:11:58.720They instead used this concept of abuse of power, which is so broad and general, that any president could – as you say, any president could be charged with it.
00:12:08.300So is it accurate to describe the impeachment – because I don't think a lot of people even understand how this works – but on a very surface level, that what the House did is almost like a grand jury.
00:12:26.340And then it's passed over to the Senate.
00:12:28.440Now, can they continue to add new things, for instance, this Lev Parnas stuff, which I find interesting at best, but they – can they continue to evolve the charges?
00:12:44.900Well, they can add new evidence of the original charges, but they can't add new charges without going through the impeachment process in the House.
00:12:57.300And, you know, that's – so Lev Parnas would be a hard case because to the extent he's alleging something different, that may require going back to the House.
00:13:06.640To the extent that he's simply allegedly adding evidence to what's already been charged, then it probably wouldn't have to go back to the House.
00:13:13.700But, you know, these are issues that would have to be determined by the House and the Senate because the Constitution doesn't lay out the procedures.
00:13:20.860It just says the House shall be the sole judge of impeachment and the Senate shall be the sole judge of conviction or acquittal.
00:13:27.460And what is the role of the chief justice?
00:13:34.700I mean, he's put there only in case of presidential impeachments.
00:13:39.140Now, you can argue one of the reasons he's there is because the president pro temp of the Senate is in the line of succession of the president, so he shouldn't be there.
00:13:50.880I think they wanted to add a judicial element to so important a job as removing a duly elected president.
00:13:57.060So I think the chief justice has some role to play, but what exactly it is, nobody's sure.
00:14:03.440What are the things that we should be watching for, Alan, from both sides?
00:14:08.840What are the things that will show us one way or another which way this is going?
00:14:13.200Well, I think the questions from the senators and the questions from the House managers, I'm looking forward to those questions already.
00:14:22.020The media and some of the media, particularly in the hard left media, are predicting that I will be devastated by the questions.
00:14:28.540I assure you I'm going to be very well prepared for any question that's asked me.
00:14:33.420I've argued 250 appeals over a 50-year period.
00:14:36.780I've never been asked a question during that period of time that I wasn't prepared for, and I intend to be prepared for the questions here.
00:14:44.180Whether my answer is suffice or not is going to be up to the senators, but I will be prepared.
00:14:48.300So are you going to be testifying, or are you going to be advising because you're not?
00:14:55.220I'm going to be making the argument on the constitutional issue.
00:14:57.580I'm going to be presenting to the Senate an argument as to why the Constitution doesn't permit the conviction of Donald Trump based on these two articles of impeachment.
00:15:08.100Of counsel on the constitutional issue.
00:15:09.960Is this much different than the role you played with O.J. Simpson, where you, if I remember right, you had a specific part of the trial you were taking on, right?
00:17:52.240Yeah, well, you know, if this is the most dangerous thing on the planet, then, you know, I I'm at a loss because we're right here at the perimeter.
00:17:58.920And, you know, beyond this line to beyond this point.
00:18:03.080And I don't know how much you can hear, Glenn.
00:18:04.400People are chanting USA in the background.
00:18:09.760But the further you go, once you cross that line, you're not allowed to carry.
00:18:13.760So a number of people have made a point of carrying.
00:18:16.500Virginia, remember, is an open carry state.
00:18:18.180And they've made a point of carrying to show that they are safer outside of the perimeter where they don't allow guns than they would be inside of that line.
00:18:27.740And how many people are inside versus outside?
00:18:32.900In the thousands, we're still we're still trying to get a count, an exact count.
00:19:26.040Well, they come every year and basically you go to the Capitol and they have meetings where you basically discuss legislation.
00:19:35.780And it's essentially to boil it down as a way for Virginians to actually get their voices to be heard.
00:19:40.260This year, because of the anti-gun legislation, red red flag laws, basically clamping down on on the kinds of weapons that you can have because of that, it reached a boiling point.
00:19:54.080And like you said, the Democrats freaked out about it.
00:19:56.320But this is something that happens every single year.
00:19:59.740It's something that is completely legal, something that Virginians have been doing for years.
00:20:03.340And and because the kind of legislation that's on the table, which is gun rights legislation now, it's gotten to be a much bigger, a much bigger deal.
00:20:11.760John, tell me about the scene as I'm looking at some of the video, the people that are closest to the Capitol, generally white men, which is going to make this very easy for the left to paint this as a white supremacist movement.
00:20:28.180Are you the only African-American in the crowd?
00:20:32.760Are there any women and children there?
00:20:36.140I'm standing actually literally right next to an Asian woman who is standing on a, you know, on on one of the steps here.
00:20:44.080I would say, yeah, it's probably it is a mixed crowd, but it's also what I can see is not necessarily representative of who's here.
00:21:31.920Remember how much the the the organs of the state tried to suppress attendance there by saying that it was going to be, you know, very violent and awful.
00:21:45.300And and we were told that the Black Panthers were coming.
00:22:20.880And that is completely just the fabrication that I think they use to dissuade people from attending these events because they want to suppress the numbers, because they want people to think that it's not important.
00:22:30.160And they want people to think that no one's actually interested except for the fringe, which is just not the case.
00:22:35.400What I'm seeing is a bunch of normal everyday Americans who, believe it or not, actually value their rights, believe it or not, actually value the things that are afforded to them by the by the Constitution.
00:22:45.160The Virginia state constitution and the and and the country's constitution.
00:22:51.260And so they they're probably going to find the craziest people they can and highlight those.
00:22:55.940But we've been here now for about a half an hour.
00:22:58.040And it's just everyday people you see every day.
00:23:38.500We're going to try to get some interviews with people on the ground here.
00:23:40.700We're going to try to get some interviews with the organizers, the people who actually put this together and see what they think.
00:23:47.880Because what's fascinating to me is that, you know, these are people who it is so important to have this right that they have literally said, hey, if the state tries to come after my guns, I'm literally willing to I'm willing to go to jail.
00:23:58.900I'm willing to face whatever consequences come my way.
00:24:12.420And that's why it's so fitting that it's on this day.
00:24:15.040Because it shows that American people, when it comes down to their rights, when it comes down to the things that they are allowed to do and the things that make living in this country great, when it comes down to those things, they have to – sorry, I'm getting pushed aside.
00:24:29.160They have to – they're not willing to give those up.
00:24:32.640And they're doing it peacefully, but they're letting their voices be heard.
00:24:35.100Well, let them all know that we're behind them, and I appreciate the fact that you're there, John, along with a couple of other people from the blaze that we will talk to later on in the program.
00:25:41.540How is this race different than the other races that you've seen over the years?
00:25:49.040I think what makes this race different than any other is this is 2012 for the Democrats, where if you go back to the 2012 Republican primary, it was all about anybody but Obama, anybody but Obama, anybody but Obama.
00:26:03.420And then as the primary got going, it became anybody but Romney.
00:26:06.220Romney was clearly established as the establishment candidate.
00:26:09.580And so you had these flavors of the month come up, and who could capture the imagination of the grassroots and stop Mitt Romney from being the nominee?
00:26:18.920That's how this process began for them.
00:26:21.660But they ended up with somebody who belly flopped as a Mitt Romney and is underperforming in the early states, dramatically so, compared to all of his national polling.
00:26:32.460And just to show you how ridiculous national polling is, today there's a presidential primary poll of New Jersey for reasons only a law knows.
00:26:49.140And so it goes back to what I told you guys a couple of weeks ago, that it doesn't matter what anybody thinks except that they live in Iowa, Nevada, South Carolina, and New Hampshire right now.
00:26:58.280And I think what we're – so there's this free-for-all because no one has established their lane.
00:27:02.860They don't have a clear establishment candidate.
00:27:05.540Biden is leading in that subprimary, but he can't close the sale because, frankly, he's incompetent.
00:27:10.580And you saw that come out in the debate last week, where as the debate wore on, so did he.
00:27:18.740It is really, to use a wrestling term, it is a battle royale right now.
00:27:22.680They're all in the ring together taking shots.
00:27:26.020So who's up and who's down from last week?
00:27:30.860I think the – I think nothing has really changed from last week.
00:27:34.500I think right now you have a Warren-Bernie Sanders free-for-all for the grassroots – Bernie is the Ron Paul character.
00:27:45.820He has an insurgent wing of people that just want to disrupt the process and see him either personally or ideologically.
00:27:53.640And I'm not drawing a moral equivalency between the two, a situational one.
00:27:56.880So either they see him ideologically or personally as a disruptor.
00:28:01.320But there's not enough of those people to win.
00:28:03.600And so he's got to grow his coalition.
00:28:06.060And Elizabeth Warren has always ate into his ability to do that.
00:28:09.360And in the last couple of weeks, it looked like he had pushed her back or whether she had made enough mistakes to hurt herself.
00:28:14.760But now you're seeing, including with the New York Times editorial this morning, you're seeing the more establishment hard left now, meaning the more polished, softer side of Sears, as I call it.
00:28:23.840They're now coming – surging back to try to push her over the top on Bernie Sanders.
00:28:28.980And that's where they're doing body language analyses of Bernie on these channels that are all pro-Warren.
00:28:35.120And so I think that's really the only thing is there's now like a second Ted offensive on behalf of Elizabeth Warren from the media.
00:28:41.860So it's interesting to me that you saw that bias in the last debate with CNN where they just believed Warren and just dismissed Bernie Sanders.
00:28:51.380But also the New York Times now has – and I don't remember the New York Times offering two candidates before, but this time they're offering two candidates as their editorial pick.
00:29:29.680She's running in Joe Biden's subprimary.
00:29:32.020And so I think this is – I think the New York Times here is trying to do two things.
00:29:36.100Number one, they're trying to elevate Amy Klobuchar to diminish Joe Biden.
00:29:40.020I think there's a fear that Amy Klobuchar is fading and that Joe Biden will kind of get that.
00:29:45.180We've just got to win lane all to himself and overperform on caucus night.
00:29:48.940So they're trying to elevate Amy Klobuchar as a viable alternative to him.
00:29:53.080And then I think it's the idea that if she can do well enough promoting an all-female ticket for the presidency in the general election in the fall,
00:30:27.040And I think that's why you've seen, Stu, Tom Vilsack, who was our – I guess we call a more moderate Democrat governor in the early 2000s.
00:30:34.740And I think that's why you're seeing him and John Kerry, who won the Iowa caucus this year in 2004.
00:30:40.620I think that's why you're seeing a lot of the old guard come back in here.
00:30:46.240And I think if they thought for sure that he had this, they wouldn't risk outing themselves and alienating their own grassroots.
00:30:53.200I think this is triage, or maybe it takes a village to win a caucus.
00:30:57.520I think they're all trying to chip in and carry him across the finish line here.
00:31:02.000And I think the goal is just get Joe Biden to Super Tuesday in all those southern states with all those black voters and just have him be viable until then.
00:31:09.100And he can at least sweep enough of those states to force a convention, if not win the nomination.
00:31:16.300And I think the fact that they're getting so active here down the street or down the stretch, Stu, indicates they're concerned about his ability to close the sale.
00:31:24.220Well, that's – I mean, that's worse than a Romney candidacy.
00:31:40.040Seldom did you see him get, you know, ruffled.
00:31:43.140You know, McCain did that to him in 08 in the New Hampshire primary, and he said, you are the candidate of change.
00:31:47.640And the race changed in 08 right at that moment because it was the first time we'd ever seen Mitt Romney not on his mark.
00:31:54.560In 2012, when I was on the Newt campaign and Newt bloodied him up in that South Carolina debate, that changed that whole primary was in that debate.
00:32:02.220But those are the rare instances where Mitt Romney did not command the stage when he was in the room with the other candidates.
00:34:07.180Cruz and Trump both passed those tests in 16, which is why they were the last two standing candidates after Jeb Bush folded.
00:34:13.900Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are trying to pass that test right now.
00:34:17.840Imagine going back to the 2016 Republican primary, Trump and Cruz flail, and you're left with, well, I guess we go with Jeb Bush because there's nobody left.
00:34:25.620That's essentially the argument right now for Joe Biden.
00:34:44.480I mean, we had 33 counties that voted twice for Obama in 08 and 12, pardon me, that voted for Trump in 2016,
00:34:54.280and he lost a lot of those counties in the 2018 midterms, and, you know, that's why it was a good Democratic year in our state in the last election.
00:35:07.840It matters not as much as the national media thinks, okay, because that population has diminished, but it still matters more than most people probably believe.
00:35:18.220The truth is somewhere in the middle, but absolutely it does matter on some level, no doubt about it.
00:35:25.820You can watch his program on Blaze TV immediately following this program every day, and he is the guy to go to when it comes to the Iowa elections.
00:36:47.420We had integrated, Ricketts High School.
00:36:49.220So we're going through a lot of those issues during those days and pretty tumultuous times.
00:36:53.980But it was a time also where I can now reflect back, see the benefits of good men who did great things in that period, and now we're living the results of that today.
00:37:04.280And if I can say this, I was looking at the search engine Bing today, B-I-N-G, and there's a picture of Jackie Robinson and his wife and his son and a bunch of other men and women marching together.
00:37:17.000And I just highlight to people that was a – I think Martin Luther King Day represents the era of good men, respectful, patriotic, God-fearing, family-oriented, entrepreneurial, and visionary.
00:37:33.360If you take a picture of that, you see the environment I grew up in, and I'm so proud to say that that was part of that great generation that taught us good things.
00:37:41.400Well, there was a different way to go, and it was the Malcolm X way, and there was the Black Panthers.
00:37:48.680A lot of people were pushing for this to go towards violence.
00:37:53.260And I really feel, Burgess, that I don't see the Martin Luther King agent of change out there today.
00:38:02.380Somebody that – I mean, the left, it's crazy.
00:38:05.200The left has completely abandoned this guy because he's not radical enough.
00:38:11.400Well, the left never has embraced Martin Luther King, and this is what you have to understand.
00:38:16.080What Martin Luther King in that era represented was our Judeo-Christian values that made our country great.
00:38:21.260They represented the culture that every person, every people, every group that comes here, once they embrace, they succeed and they become part of the middle class.
00:38:30.340The left has always been anti this American culture.
00:38:35.640It has always been angry, it has always been undermining, and what they do best is they go after our kids.
00:38:42.560They attack the most vulnerable, which are children, kids that are wide open, that are hopeful when they turn them off to school, and they want to do their very best, and they come out feeling very angry, anti-God, and anti-American.
00:38:56.660So, you know, the left has done what they're doing best, and unfortunately, we've allowed them to weave their way into my great community, and what you see in that picture is no longer what we see today.
00:39:06.940We don't see respectful men and women marching and talking and articulating themselves in a very intelligent way.
00:39:13.760We don't see that because the left, again, has taken us in a different direction.
00:39:18.020So, Donald Trump is, we're looking at, I think, 3.9% unemployment, best unemployment since the 1960s, best unemployment for African-Americans of all time.
00:39:31.640And I have seen African-Americans, Candace Owen is going to be on my TV show tonight.
00:39:37.260This is the first time we're ever going to be doing something together, and I have a ton of respect for her.
00:39:43.040She has really grown into a remarkable individual, but that is the things that I'm starting to see, and maybe it's because I'm living in my white world with white privilege,
00:39:58.340but I'm starting to see African-Americans break out, be themselves, not just be, you know, I hate to use this phrase, but it's accurate,
00:40:08.520a slave to the Democratic Party, doing whatever they tell them to do.
00:40:22.320And I say, Glenn, when I think of this, and when I was 30 years old, I wasn't even coming close to having the wisdom, the courage, the insight that that young lady has.
00:40:31.360And she represents this new generation that's waking up.
00:40:36.080And I'll say this, that the greatest presence of President Obama was who was such a lousy president that America is now saying,
00:40:43.460what ever happened to hope and change?
00:40:44.840What happened to the promises that not only this black savior is going to give us, but the Democratic Party has been promised us for the last 30, 40 years.
00:40:51.420So, yes, we are not only waking up, we are advocating strongly, come off this plantation.
00:40:57.400We have more and more black Americans now wearing the MAGA hats.
00:41:00.060And I was talking to Sarah Carter today, and I asked the audience, you ever see a black American with a MAGA hat on?
00:41:07.020Please go up and shake his hand and say thank you, because they are on the front line.
00:41:11.200These are the guys, these are people, men and women, old and young, that say, you know what, I can care less when people call me.
00:41:16.980I can care less what the, quote, means of our community are right now, what they want us to believe.
00:41:22.560We are now saying we're going to run off this plantation, not only bring our kids back and our community back, but make sure the rest of America are realizing, do not trust these people.
00:41:34.080What they have done to us for the last 60, 70 years is exactly what they're trying to do in our country.
00:41:38.600So, I'm very proud, number one, of our country overall, but I'm extremely proud of a president who is standing up against these elitists and has done a great job.
00:41:49.380And, again, I was one of those guys that was very reluctant four years ago, but when I saw the, three years ago, when I saw the promise, the new deal, the promise of new deal for urban America,
00:42:01.420and I saw those 10 tenants that President, that candidate Trump, have put together, I said, if only he does this, he'll be worth it for me.
00:42:10.300And thank goodness America's coming together to be proud again of who we are, and we can have this conversation that we're going across, getting past this racial thing that the left has been driving us toward for the last few decades.
00:42:22.620As we're looking at the impeachment now, the hearings start tomorrow.
00:42:28.400Earlier on the program, we had Alan Dershowitz talking about it, and he's getting his head handed to him.
00:42:34.580Here's a liberal Democrat who didn't vote for Trump and, in fact, wrote his book about impeachment, and the original name of the book was The Impeachment of Hillary Clinton
00:42:43.120because he thought people would impeach Hillary Clinton, and it turned out to be Donald Trump.
00:42:47.080What are your thoughts going forward here on this impeachment?
00:44:01.160It's never been this way, and the left has never been more angry because the people, we the people, are not miserable.
00:44:08.860They are not, they don't have the power.
00:44:11.160So President Trump is slowly but surely pulling back the curtain, first of all, to realize how insidious these people have been for a long, long time.
00:44:18.960And not only that, but realizing that, you know, we can't have a very happy society that's based on harmony and looking at each other and this side out.
00:44:27.360And we can have our kids excited about our future.
00:44:30.100And those are things that they have, they hate with everything that they're all about.
00:44:35.760And so they're trying to destroy him because of this.
00:44:37.900So it's going to be very obvious, I think, to most Americans, those who are fair, and I think that's what most Americans are.
00:44:44.320But they're fair, and they just want people to keep their word, keep it that simple.
00:44:48.660And because he's doing that, they are losing power, and they don't see it because they have no wisdom, because there's no God in their purview.
00:44:56.380So we're going to continue to move forward and get our country back, and I'm very, very excited about being part of that process.
00:45:01.780Burgess, we'd like to give the web address for people to come and help your campaign.
00:45:05.420However, we can't do that unless we get a Super Bowl pick.
00:45:17.780I'm at a point now where I root for teams based on coaches.
00:45:21.960So for the last few years, if the Raiders haven't been close, it's always been Kansas City because Andy Reid is a first-class individual.
00:45:27.800So, by the way, my website is Burgess4TheFourTenets4Utah.com.
00:45:33.220And if I can say this for those in the audience, it's not just Utah.
00:45:37.740The values we have here are those four tenets I mentioned, and it's time for us to take those values back to D.C. instead of letting D.C. come here.
00:45:45.040And because it's the most important seat, one of the top seats in this country, the Democrats need to have the seat to keep the power.
00:45:52.480We need to have the seat to get back our country.