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00:00:00.000 Hello, America. Mark. It's Friday, and we start our first Friday story about something that's happening Monday in Virginia, the upcoming Virginia gun rights rally. It's really much more than that. I talked to Cam Edwards about it. Also, Bill O'Reilly on the show. His his look at the news of the week. John Solomon was here to give us an update on the Ukraine scandal and a really cool podcast happening tomorrow.

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00:01:34.800 All right. We have Cam Edwards on. He's the host of Bearing Arms, Cam and Company, and also the coast of 40 Acres and a Fool that you can find on Blaze TV. Cam, Virginia, I think, is a

00:02:04.800 I don't know a proving ground of something and both the left and the right have something to prove. The right is looking for their constitutional rights to be protected by the government and they are being they're being disenfranchised.

00:02:22.800 And everybody I've talked to in Virginia says the same thing. It's our fault. The Republicans didn't get out the vote and the Republicans screwed things up. And so this is our fault.

00:02:34.940 However, there's a power grab going in and they've done three, done three things. The Electoral College. They're basically abolishing it.

00:02:45.760 You know, once the Democrats got power, then they've changed the rules on impeachment for the governor. It used to be 10 percent of the population needed to sign, you know, sign a petition.

00:02:58.180 And then they would go forward with an impeachment. But now, strangely, for some unknown reason, they move that number up to 25 percent of the population and they're going after guns in every way they can.

00:03:11.760 This is shaking the constitutionalists in Virginia. Am I missing anything on this?

00:03:21.760 No, I think you've you've hit it, Glenn. I mean, I think that one of the reasons why you're seeing this incredible outpouring on the part of gun owners in Virginia is because, you know, when Republicans were in charge of the state, I've heard a lot of people say, you know, we never did anything like this.

00:03:37.000 And so there are a lot of Virginians who are I think they were perplexed. Now they're angry at how the Democrats want to fundamentally remake this state based on, you know, ultimately a fairly narrow victory in the November elections.

00:03:55.640 A swing of, you know, 10,000 votes across the entire state and some of these legislative races would have completely changed the outcome of this election.

00:04:03.740 But Democrats are acting as if they have this incredible mandate majority behind them.

00:04:08.740 And and they are trying to turn Virginia into East California or South New York.

00:04:14.840 And Virginia gun owners are speaking up and standing up in opposition.

00:04:18.900 So, Kim, is it just gun owners or is it are there people there that are seeing this government in Virginia have a true power grab and they're looking at their constitutional rights of the Second Amendment?

00:04:37.860 As you know, according to the Declaration of Independence, government is established by man to protect those rights.

00:04:46.620 And when it starts to, you know, be the the main problem with those rights, the people have a right and a responsibility to alter or abolish it.

00:04:57.940 And the only way you abolish it or alter it, there's two ways, election and God forbid, the last way to do it is with your Second Amendment right.

00:05:09.500 So what is is is this is this just about the gun or is this about a power grab?

00:05:19.540 I think it very much started out being about guns and and the the Second Amendment issue and the gun control agenda from Ralph Northam has sucked up a lot of the oxygen in the room.

00:05:29.980 But now that the legislative session has started, you're right.

00:05:33.480 There are more people who are waking up to some of the other really, truly awful bills that are being proposed here in Virginia.

00:05:39.460 And they do see this, I think, as as a broader power grab.

00:05:43.400 So I think that the spark were those Virginia gun owners, the Second Amendment sanctuary committees that you and I have talked about in the past.

00:05:52.120 But but now it is, I think, becoming a broader opposition to the entire agenda of the Democrats that are now in control in Virginia.

00:06:01.420 So I had a guest on yesterday that said to me that I think he said 90 out of 95 counties or 90 out of 95 cities, something along that have gone against and said we are going to be a sanctuary city.

00:06:17.600 Is that number accurate?

00:06:19.080 I mean, how big is this movement?

00:06:23.320 Yeah, it is accurate.

00:06:24.400 I believe it's 91 out of the 95 counties in Virginia.

00:06:29.300 And then we have over 40 cities and towns that have also passed these resolutions.

00:06:35.720 I think, you know, across the entire state, I think we're up to 136 communities, the vast majority of which are counties, but also include some of the state's biggest cities, Glenn.

00:06:44.260 Chesapeake, Virginia, Virginia Beach.

00:06:46.960 They've both passed the Second Amendment resolution.

00:06:49.180 So this isn't even just a rural versus urban thing.

00:06:52.420 This is, you know, the vast majority of the land area.

00:06:57.560 And I believe now we're up to, like, you know, 60 percent of the population of Virginia now lives in a Second Amendment sanctuary community.

00:07:04.060 So this is a much broader movement, I think, than most of the media is giving it credit for.

00:07:09.920 What part of the population lives?

00:07:11.920 What part of the population is giving it credit for, like, you know, 60 percent of the population of Virginia now lives in the United States in the United States in the United States?

00:07:29.060 I don't remember when I said that in the United States in the United States in the United States in the United States in the United States in the United States?

00:07:37.740 It's a big megalopolis, right?

00:07:39.340 It's an affront to everything this country stood for.

00:07:43.540 There's no reason for all of these companies and everything else to base their operations except for lobbying in the nation's capital.

00:07:53.580 But so what is the percentage of population of Virginia that is actually just a suburb of Washington, D.C.?

00:08:01.580 It's a pretty good chunk.

00:08:03.840 I mean, I'd say we're looking at close to a quarter, maybe a little bit more.

00:08:07.600 Fairfax County, Virginia alone has nearly two million residents.

00:08:11.600 Arlington County, Virginia, which is one county over closer to D.C., they've got nearly a million residents.

00:08:17.720 Prince William County, which is just to the south, they've got about 800,000 residents.

00:08:21.820 And so it is a really big chunk of the state's population.

00:08:24.960 So if those numbers are true, you're talking about 30 percent of the population, and you said 60 percent of the population is now in a sanctuary county or city.

00:08:36.980 That only leaves 10 percent.

00:08:39.420 And, you know, it's remarkable that 30 percent of the population is, you know, tyranny of the minority. 0.93

00:08:48.180 Exactly. And so, you know, what's fascinating, Glenn, is that, you know, you talk about elections and using the ballot box, and I've never seen voters as engaged as they are right now.

00:09:00.560 I think that this could have a huge impact in 2020.

00:09:02.520 But I'm also seeing some really unique suggestions.

00:09:07.420 There's actually a group of lawmakers in West Virginia that are proposing to allow counties in Virginia to be annexed by the state of West Virginia.

00:09:15.880 And I talked with a delegate, Gary Howell, in West Virginia yesterday, and they're serious about this.

00:09:19.780 They said, look, there's no reason why these counties in Virginia should be subjected to the whims of the minority in Northern Virginia. 0.69

00:09:26.020 They have much more in common with West Virginia. Let's let them leave peacefully if they if they can, if the General Assembly will allow it.

00:09:33.680 So you actually have other lawmakers in other states trying to, you know, diffuse the tensions here by by changing the borders of the state.

00:09:42.840 That's insane. I mean, this this hasn't been talked about for, you know, since the Civil War, we haven't talked about these kinds of things.

00:09:51.440 It's insane what's going on. And the left, you know, the left knows there there are two things that could lead to civil war.

00:10:01.020 According to a study by the by the Democrats, there are two things that could lead to a violent civil war.

00:10:07.880 One, the impeachment and removal of Donald Trump before the election to taking away the the Second Amendment

00:10:19.400 and taking away people's right to bear arms. They're doing both of those and they're doing it full throttle.

00:10:28.200 Well, I don't I mean, it's it's almost intentional.

00:10:33.040 I I've had those same concerns and I've been so bitterly disappointed in our governor.

00:10:39.720 But I got to tell you, you know, he came out and talked about the need for a civil conversation.

00:10:44.100 And let's have this fact based discussion. I reached out to the governor's office on multiple occasions,

00:10:49.080 asking him to sit down with me on Burying Arms Cannon Company for a civil discussion.

00:10:54.080 Let's talk to gun owners, talk with gun owners instead of talking down to them. 0.80

00:10:58.060 And I didn't even get a response back from the governor's press secretary.

00:11:01.320 The governor has no interest in actually having a conversation with the people that he's trying to disarm.

00:11:07.800 He wants us to sit down, to shut up, to be quiet. And it's just not going to happen.

00:11:12.220 Well, here's what I'm concerned about, Cam. The way he has approached this whole thing has poured accelerant on.

00:11:21.520 I mean, this isn't this is this is arson. And I want to talk to you about that.

00:11:26.340 The way he has positioned the people of Virginia that are just they just want to stand up for the Constitution,

00:11:35.460 how he's positioning them as radicals, revolutionaries and Nazis.

00:11:40.560 And I want to get your opinion on what it feels like on the ground is if if that is an accurate view from halfway across the country.

00:11:49.680 Back with Cam Edwards here in just a second.

00:11:53.160 And by the way, you can follow him at Cam Edwards.

00:11:57.880 You can find his Web site, BearingArms.com.

00:12:00.160 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:12:05.260 Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:12:22.660 Mr. Bill O'Reilly, Emmy Award winning journalist, blah, blah, blah.

00:12:28.860 He's got lots of books, blah, blah, blah.

00:12:31.420 And he's now on his own his own Web site where he does his show at Bill O'Reilly dot com.

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00:12:42.100 Mr. Bill O'Reilly, what a week it has been.

00:12:46.040 Before we get to that, I'm really happy to hear you're going to have Jackie Gleason on the program later.

00:12:50.660 I'm a huge Jackie Gleason fan, so don't mess with him.

00:12:54.500 I like Jackie Gleason.

00:12:56.140 And what people don't know is he never rehearsed.

00:13:01.240 Almost like you, Beck.

00:13:02.860 Yeah.

00:13:03.340 No idea what he was doing until he got on the air.

00:13:06.340 And even then it was questionable.

00:13:07.760 Yeah.

00:13:08.140 He was fantastic.

00:13:09.760 All right, Bill, where do you want to where do you want to start?

00:13:12.520 You want to start with impeachment?

00:13:13.580 You want to start with a debate?

00:13:14.620 You want to start with maybe predictions on, you know, why Barack Obama is doing this and moderating himself?

00:13:24.740 All right, let's start there.

00:13:26.300 Let's start with President Obama because that leads to impeachment and the debates.

00:13:32.280 So we'll do a very logical thing here, unlike most weeks.

00:13:35.860 Barack Obama knows or thinks he knows that Armageddon may happen in November for the Democratic Party.

00:13:48.680 That's where you start.

00:13:49.880 And he's not alone.

00:13:51.680 All his guys are very nervous.

00:13:56.220 You hear it on CNN because that's where his guys live.

00:13:58.920 That's where they work.

00:13:59.800 Ben Jones.

00:14:00.560 Ben Jones.

00:14:01.140 Yeah, and what's his name?

00:14:03.120 The guy with the mustache who ran Obama's campaign was in the White House.

00:14:07.060 But anyway.

00:14:07.620 Black Bart. 0.82

00:14:08.300 I don't know.

00:14:10.180 Anyway, they feel.

00:14:11.600 Oh, Axelrod.

00:14:12.520 Yeah.

00:14:13.080 Axelrod.

00:14:13.400 Yeah, Axelrod.

00:14:14.600 All I can think of is a guy in a black top hat with a curly mustache.

00:14:18.580 Well, he could play that part, Axelrod.

00:14:20.000 Yeah, he could.

00:14:20.780 Yeah.

00:14:21.260 I actually like him.

00:14:22.560 You know, I've known him for years.

00:14:24.800 But he's the smartest of the crew, him and Podesta.

00:14:28.840 You don't hear much from Podesta.

00:14:30.220 He's Hillary Clinton's guy.

00:14:31.940 They know that this is not looking good at this point, even with impeachment, even with the media, all of that.

00:14:39.540 So Barack Obama goes, I don't really want to be tied into this radical left movement.

00:14:45.780 And I think you're making a mistake assessing him.

00:14:48.740 He is all about economics.

00:14:51.220 He's not about social.

00:14:52.600 In fact, Barack Obama, if you look at him, outside of the drug use, he's a pretty standardized guy.

00:15:00.420 He's not a hippie.

00:15:02.700 He's not, you know, that kind of a person.

00:15:05.360 He's not a socialist.

00:15:07.960 I think he is an income redistributor.

00:15:13.060 He's a socialist.

00:15:14.340 Okay, yeah.

00:15:14.980 And his wife is even more so.

00:15:17.120 Yes, she's much more socially liberal than Barack Obama.

00:15:21.280 I don't mean about social.

00:15:22.580 I don't mean I don't mean necessarily about society.

00:15:25.380 I do mean about changing the culture of the country and fundamentally transforming it.

00:15:29.980 Those are his words and her words.

00:15:32.060 But they are, for American standards, they used to be, radicals.

00:15:39.460 They are socialists.

00:15:41.460 But they're now looking like, you're right, Sean Hannity.

00:15:47.340 Yeah, look, they don't want to be tied in.

00:15:50.060 The Obamas don't want to be tied in with a drastic defeat.

00:15:53.240 That's where you're starting.

00:15:55.020 Number two, all right, their philosophy links into the far left.

00:16:01.480 There is a link there.

00:16:02.980 I don't like labeling people unless there is beyond a reasonable doubt.

00:16:07.640 But their philosophy, the Obamas philosophy.

00:16:08.620 I proved it for two years on Fox News, but you were busy.

00:16:12.460 Uh-huh.

00:16:13.700 The prevailing wisdom of the far left, and this is why they do what they do and say what they say,

00:16:23.000 that America is an evil country.

00:16:25.920 Yes. 0.98

00:16:27.000 All right? 0.97

00:16:27.440 From the very beginning of the founding fathers, the slaveholders, this has been an exploitative country run by rich white guys who have screwed everybody else. 0.82

00:16:40.480 And because of that, now it's our time. 0.93

00:16:45.480 And we have to change everything to punish the white guys, the patriarchy, take all of their assets and money, and this includes corporations and Wall Street,

00:16:57.680 and give it to those people whose ancestors were exploited.

00:17:03.260 If you understand that, and it is no doubt about it, if you understand that, everything you hear from Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and all the rest of them makes perfect sense.

00:17:17.340 The income redistribution policies of Barack Obama make perfect sense.

00:17:23.260 The problem with it is that, number one, most Americans don't believe that.

00:17:30.280 All right?

00:17:30.860 And number two, wherever the socialist policies have been implemented have turned into totalitarian disasters.

00:17:40.580 Correct.

00:17:41.480 Okay?

00:17:42.120 So those are the two problems.

00:17:43.940 That's where you start with the far left.

00:17:47.280 Now, may I ask you this question?

00:17:50.920 I mean, Bernie Sanders now in the latest poll is, I think, one point ahead of Joe Biden.

00:17:58.540 This thing is a free-for-all.

00:18:00.240 I think you could head to a fractured convention.

00:18:03.080 Well, you're talking about Iowa.

00:18:04.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:18:05.700 In a national real clear politics average, Biden still is a comfortable lead.

00:18:10.780 Yeah, well, national polls don't really mean much when you're talking about the primaries.

00:18:15.600 But let me just – just hear me out for a second.

00:18:18.820 If they go to a fractured convention and they need to broker –

00:18:24.120 Yeah, they need to broker a new deal.

00:18:26.780 Right.

00:18:27.020 The one to obviously call on is Michelle Obama.

00:18:32.300 And the Obamas are positioning themselves back into the center and looking like they're not part of all of this.

00:18:42.000 Right.

00:18:42.180 Do you think that plays a role in any of this?

00:18:45.260 Possible.

00:18:46.160 But the people who know Michelle Obama, who I know, say that she sincerely does not want to do that, does not want to run for president.

00:18:53.560 I believe that.

00:18:54.820 Okay.

00:18:55.480 So I see it's more of a Bloomberg play, that Bloomberg will be hovering around and will tell the Democratic power brokers, say you may not like me because I'm a rich white guy, but I can beat them.

00:19:10.800 And since you don't have anybody else, let me be the nominee.

00:19:15.060 So Bloomberg is playing the Rudy Giuliani strategy from a few years ago with the GOP and putting all of his eggs in Super Tuesday, hoping that – I think – that there is a different winner in every primary.

00:19:26.800 Yeah.

00:19:27.260 That nobody goes in with a commanding lead.

00:19:30.560 Correct.

00:19:30.740 But Bloomberg knows he doesn't really have a chance to get enough delegates to win.

00:19:36.540 He's doing two things.

00:19:37.860 If there is a brokered convention, there he is.

00:19:40.720 And even if there is a nominee, it will probably be Biden, and Biden will give me secretary of state or secretary of treasury.

00:19:49.140 That's what Bloomberg wants.

00:19:50.860 Because I think the split-up convention thing does lead to some possibility for Bloomberg in this sort of fantasy world I'm sure he's living in.

00:19:58.580 And so is Hillary.

00:19:59.460 However, I think maybe –

00:20:00.580 Hillary and Bloomberg will be there.

00:20:01.080 Because he's not really a consensus candidate for the left, Bloomberg.

00:20:05.300 What he might be, though, is an alternative if Sanders sweeps the early primaries and Biden's campaign is in shambles.

00:20:14.340 You have Bloomberg there as an alternative to a Bernie, which there is a good chunk of the Democrats who – they actually don't want him to be the nominee.

00:20:21.360 They take almost anybody else, and he's got billions of dollars to spend.

00:20:24.960 Is there a possibility there for Bloomberg?

00:20:26.680 You know, it's a tough call for the Democratic Party because if they give it to Bloomberg, all the far-left progressives –

00:20:33.680 That's so crazy.

00:20:35.160 And I don't think black Americans are going to vote for Bloomberg either, all right? 0.96

00:20:39.280 I could be wrong on that last one.

00:20:41.160 But I know the progressives will not buy into it.

00:20:43.720 And the media that props up the far-left doesn't want Bloomberg either, although the New York Times would probably, you know, reluctantly get behind him.

00:20:54.340 So this is the latest from Des Moines from the Washington Examiner.

00:20:58.520 Bernie Sanders supporters in Iowa are warning that a lack of enthusiasm for Joe Biden would bring the same result nomination of another milquetoast Democrat that did four years ago electing Donald Trump.

00:21:09.960 They said that if they – if the Democrats go with a bland centrist, they will stay home.

00:21:19.680 And the Sanders supporters are the ones with the most passion.

00:21:24.440 They're also the furthest left.

00:21:26.320 Are you concerned at all, Bill, about some of the threats that we learned from Project Veritas this week from some of these people on the Sanders campaign that were talking about, you know, Chicago 68 in Milwaukee?

00:21:43.180 No, I'm not concerned about civil unrest on the left.

00:21:47.000 What I am perplexed about is how any American could support Bernie Sanders.

00:21:55.640 I just can't imagine.

00:21:57.660 I don't know anyone personally, and I know thousands of people, most of whom won't talk to me, but I know them.

00:22:06.940 I don't know how anyone can support him.

00:22:09.520 Two reasons.

00:22:10.300 He said very clearly from the very beginning of the campaign that he would withdraw all American troops from the Middle East.

00:22:19.780 So when asked by the very astute Wolf Blitzer, hey, if you do that, ISIS will reconstitute and kill thousands of people as it did when Barack Obama did exactly the same thing in Iraq.

00:22:33.940 Do you not remember that, and do you not fear that ISIS would reconstitute?

00:22:38.700 Bernie, of course, didn't come anywhere near answering that question.

00:22:43.040 Instead, went back to Vietnam for a little lecture and then to the Iraq War for another little lecture.

00:22:48.720 But instead of following up, Mr. Blitzer didn't.

00:22:53.340 Of course he didn't, because if he did follow up, he wouldn't have the slot in the debate.

00:22:58.380 CNN would remove him.

00:22:59.560 All right, all he had to say was, with all due respect, Senator, you didn't come close to answering my question.

00:23:05.080 ISIS will reconstitute, they'll kill thousands of people, they'll try to attack the United States, what are you going to do about it? 1.00

00:23:13.040 And Bernie would say, I'll get my allies, we'll get everybody together, we'll get the allies, you know, some stupid billish like that. 0.98

00:23:20.580 The second thing, which is even more intense, is if Bernie Sanders was ever president of the United States and did manage to control the Democrats, the House and the Senate, there would be a depression in this country, not a recession. 0.98

00:23:35.540 Depression.

00:23:35.700 All right, there would be a massive flight of capital out of the United States because people and corporations that have assets are not going to let Bernie Sanders and the Democrats take those assets.

00:23:53.360 We know this from the partially socialist government in France, that when they went for taxes, like Bernie Sanders is talking about, they had to repeal it within the first year because France was collapsing.

00:24:08.960 People just left.

00:24:10.780 They moved their money out.

00:24:12.620 And that would make France look like a Boy Scout meeting.

00:24:16.920 Yeah, it would.

00:24:17.300 Here.

00:24:17.880 And we owe $22 trillion.

00:24:20.280 What were people holding that debt due?

00:24:22.740 I want to give you one other reason that you might vote for Bernie Sanders, and that is you're a fan of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

00:24:31.640 You just don't know that's not Larry David.

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00:25:12.520 John Solomon is award-winning investigative journalist.

00:25:15.160 He has worked for The Washington Post, The Washington Times, I think The New York Times, AP, and The Hill.

00:25:21.520 He now has a new website called JustTheNews.com.

00:25:26.000 JustTheNews.com investigative journalist, John Solomon, who is at the center of much of this scandal in Ukraine.

00:25:37.520 Welcome to the program.

00:25:39.080 Good to be with you, Glenn.

00:25:40.020 Thank you.

00:25:40.660 You want to start with any breaking news, any new news?

00:25:43.500 I do.

00:25:44.140 As a matter of fact, just a few minutes ago, my friends at the Southeastern Legal Foundation and I filed a lawsuit seeking the records of contacts between Ukraine prosecutors and our embassy in Kiev, the U.S.

00:25:56.140 embassy in Kiev, these are some of the contacts that are at the heart of this impeachment trial, and we're at really the focal point of my early reporting on this.

00:26:04.200 There was a dysfunctional relationship between the front-line anti-corruption fighters in Ukraine and our embassy, and that's why I wrote the stories that I did.

00:26:12.100 I put a FOIA in seeking open records requests for this information.

00:26:16.340 It hasn't come, and so today, with the help of the Southeastern Legal Foundation and a great law firm here in D.C., I filed a lawsuit to try to compel the release of these documents.

00:26:26.700 I think they'll give us tremendous insight into what was going on between Ukraine prosecutors and the embassy on all sorts of issues, from the Joe Biden burisma questions to other anti-corruption cases that were going on at the time.

00:26:39.800 Okay, so what does your gut say that they will show or prove?

00:26:48.460 Well, my reporting shows in the past.

00:26:51.480 Remember, there's a Ukraine prosecutor who says that they were – the United States government was pressuring Ukraine prosecutors not to pursue certain cases, including a case against a George Soros-funded non-government organization, a nonprofit.

00:27:04.660 And State Department officials confirmed to me before I wrote that story that, yeah, that did go on, and then we had some of the testimony during the impeachment where they acknowledged that the State Department acknowledged it was pressuring Ukraine prosecutors not to pursue certain people.

00:27:20.020 I think we're going to learn a lot more about what motivated those contacts, who those people were, and what sort of communications were going on between the prosecutor's office and the embassy.

00:27:32.020 At the time, we had the Manafort case going on.

00:27:34.380 We had the questions about burisma and Joe Biden, and there was an active investigation in 16.

00:27:40.380 I'd like to know what was going on, what sort of function, what sort of communications, who was politically involved.

00:27:45.800 And hopefully when we're done, we're going to learn a lot more than what we know now.

00:27:48.920 So, John, what do you expect or hope will come out of this trial when Ken Starr and Alan Dershowitz and the Trump team step to the plate in probably 10 days from now?

00:28:04.640 Yeah.

00:28:05.200 Listen, it's been a one-sided story so far, just like the beginning of the Russia collusion story, right?

00:28:09.960 And everybody was certain on January 9th of 2017 that the Christopher Steele dossier was gospel and, oh, my God, our president was an agent of Russia.

00:28:20.360 And three years later, we learned out that all of that turned out to be bunt.

00:28:24.460 The most important thing about politics and about investigations is that there's two sides to a story.

00:28:30.200 There's two pieces of evidence.

00:28:31.300 And right now we've only seen one side of it, and I believe in the trial we'll begin to see a lot of different new pieces of evidence.

00:28:39.060 For instance, if the president was interested or concerned about corruption, were there specific people around President Zelensky, the new Ukrainian president, that he might have been concerned about?

00:28:50.480 Was there a specific cause or pause that caused the administration to hold off giving them money until they could be sure it was spent right?

00:28:59.160 And those are the sort of things we haven't heard from, and I think we're going to learn a lot about what the intelligence community, what the economic and Treasury Department community was telling the president.

00:29:08.920 And I bet the story is way more complicated than the narrative that Adam Schiff has woven so far.

00:29:13.860 So we do know now that there is somebody around the president of Ukraine that Trump is worried about or was worried about.

00:29:24.920 We have that evidence now because of the massive land sale that went to George Soros, and that came from somebody who pressured the president to make this move, who is in his, if you will, cabinet, who is very close to George Soros.

00:29:47.300 So isn't that kind of proof that these people are still around him?

00:29:52.220 Well, there's a lot.

00:29:54.560 Listen, there was an oligarch named Kolomoisky who, you know, used to run Privat Bank, the large bank in Ukraine.

00:30:00.180 And you can go back in the timelines and look, and back in the summer of 2019 and the fall of 2019, the IMF, the Europeans, were raising their hands saying,

00:30:09.920 we're really concerned about Kolomoisky's return to Ukraine around Zelensky.

00:30:13.400 There are a series of figures of people who played in Ukraine that have big political and economic interests, the Soros, the Kolomoisky's, the Zolchevsky's, the guy who ran Burisma.

00:30:24.100 These are legitimate issues.

00:30:25.740 And what we don't know and what we've been blinded to all this time was what was the CIA, what was the NSC, what were the diplomats, what were the European allies telling to the president?

00:30:36.020 And I suspect there's a much more complicated paradigm that was influencing the president's decision than, oh, I want an investigation of Joe Biden.

00:30:44.020 And, by the way, here's the most important part to remember about the Joe Biden investigation, the Burisma investigation.

00:30:49.860 I know Rudy Giuliani was advocating for it.

00:30:52.120 We see Lev Parnas was advocating for it.

00:30:55.080 We know it came up as a matter of discussion in the call.

00:30:58.620 But everybody misses this very important point.

00:31:01.700 Before all that happened, the Ukrainians, on their own, in February of 2019 and in March of 2019, in Ukraine, announced that they were reopening the investigation of Burisma.

00:31:13.500 It had already happened, so people didn't know.

00:31:15.720 Maybe the NSC didn't tell the president.

00:31:18.540 But the investigation, the president couldn't pressure for an investigation that had already been opened on its own organically because Ukrainians came up with new evidence against Mr. Zolchevsky and Burisma.

00:31:28.460 And that investigation remains ongoing today.

00:31:32.680 So it started in February and it's still going on today.

00:31:35.640 Reuters reported in December that it had been expanded to even more serious issues than had been previously reported.

00:31:42.400 That keeps getting lost in this impeachment drama.

00:31:46.560 And I think one of the questions senators as jurors have to answer is if the NSC and the State Department knew the president was seeking an investigation,

00:31:53.840 why didn't they just tell the president, sir, you don't need to worry about it, it already has begun?

00:31:58.720 There was a real gap of information there, it appears, from what we know.

00:32:02.520 We saw all these impeachment witnesses say we knew the president wanted this, and not a single one of them appears to have told the president,

00:32:08.380 sir, back in February it already happened.

00:32:10.020 And I think that's one of the issues that the tribe is going to have to try to resolve.

00:32:13.600 What do you think of this Lev Parnas stuff?

00:32:19.040 Well, you know, listen, I have a lot of knowledge of Lev Parnas.

00:32:22.120 He was one of about 50, 55 people that I worked with as I spent over 18 months working on the Ukraine story.

00:32:30.060 I met him through my attorneys, or one of my attorneys, Joe and Victoria Tenzing.

00:32:34.660 At the time I had drafted up most of the stories that ultimately had been, you know, later were published in mid-March to mid-May.

00:32:43.200 Most of them had been drafted already, but I had this one problem.

00:32:46.200 I had all the documents, and I had a lot of people on background, but I didn't have any Ukrainians on the record.

00:32:51.220 And so when I talked to Joe and Victoria about my concern, as you do when you're a journalist talking to your lawyer about libel review and things,

00:32:58.260 they said, hey, we didn't know you were working on Ukraine stuff.

00:33:00.720 We have some business there.

00:33:01.920 We have a guy, a fixer, a facilitator, an interpreter named Lev Parnas, and how about we introduce him?

00:33:09.720 I bet you he could get you the sort of interviews that you're still lacking.

00:33:12.640 So they set up a meeting.

00:33:14.980 I reached out.

00:33:16.120 He said, you know, I'd be glad to help you.

00:33:17.200 Who do you know, or who do you want to know?

00:33:18.980 And I said, well, I've been trying to reach the prosecutor general's office.

00:33:22.160 I gave him a list of about seven or eight people.

00:33:23.940 And very quickly, he proved that he didn't know who he knew, and he was able to arrange Mr.

00:33:30.300 Lusenko, the prosecutor general, the attorney general of Ukraine, and several other figures that I was looking for to talk on the record, on camera,

00:33:37.800 so that every American could look in their eyes and see what they were saying and hear them on the record.

00:33:42.120 No anonymity, no anonymous stuff.

00:33:44.640 And so, you know, in that respect, he was helpful.

00:33:47.100 He had his own motives, his own interests.

00:33:49.100 He had business interests.

00:33:50.120 I knew he worked for Rudy Giuliani.

00:33:51.600 I knew he worked for lots of other people.

00:33:53.220 He told me he worked with lots of other reporters.

00:33:55.520 It doesn't surprise me.

00:33:56.800 But this is what reporters do on a daily basis, particularly when you're working in a foreign country.

00:34:00.940 You have what we call fixers or facilitators on the ground because you're not in Ukraine full time.

00:34:05.640 And so you have people that have contacts.

00:34:07.960 And, hey, could you get this person to talk to me?

00:34:10.760 And when that happens, one of the things that hopefully will become public, every time Lev Parnas arranged an interview,

00:34:18.260 I always went through the press office of the official government agency after that.

00:34:21.820 So if he opened the door, I still went through the official channels to make sure there were no side deals, no unusual behavior.

00:34:27.800 And in all those cases, I put those interviews out.

00:34:30.600 The videos are public.

00:34:31.680 Everybody can see what happened.

00:34:33.720 Beyond that, you know, that's what Lev did for me.

00:34:36.580 And, you know, obviously he had some issues in his background.

00:34:39.340 When you're dealing in Ukraine, you meet lots of colorful characters.

00:34:42.460 He was one of them.

00:34:43.280 Yeah.

00:34:43.500 All right.

00:34:43.960 I want to talk to you.

00:34:45.740 I'll tell you what Rudy Giuliani told me about him.

00:34:48.340 And then I'd like to get your best guess on what's happening with him and the president and him with the left in Congress.

00:35:00.780 John Solomon, investigative reporter.

00:35:03.200 You can now find his work.

00:35:06.500 He's he's gone and done his his own thing.

00:35:10.240 It's a new media outlet.

00:35:12.480 Just the news dot com.

00:35:13.960 Just the news dot com.

00:35:15.580 So we're back with John Solomon.

00:35:18.620 And and John, I.

00:35:20.260 I know that I asked Rudy Giuliani the same question a few weeks ago about left because he's a shady guy.

00:35:29.080 And he said, look, Len, when you're in a foreign country and especially a country like Ukraine, and you're looking to find out the details of the underworld, you're not going to meet all of the finest people.

00:35:41.380 And he said, this guy, just like you said, I used him to, you know, line up conversations and help me connect, blah, blah, blah.

00:35:52.780 What is the what is the the text messages that were that have been shared this week?

00:36:01.500 Any idea what that was about?

00:36:04.920 I don't.

00:36:05.740 I mean, listen, there's a lot of text messages.

00:36:07.380 Some involve my efforts to report and to and to get see if he could open up doors for me to talk to people.

00:36:13.380 That's the normal reporting that goes on every day.

00:36:15.740 And I don't think there's anything untoward about them.

00:36:17.940 There's a lot of things he was involved in that I wasn't aware of at the time.

00:36:20.680 I never heard about this monitoring effort of the ambassador or who this guy was, this congressional candidate.

00:36:29.180 You know, it was clear to me early on, Lev Parnas and I, when I talked, I said, you know, what motivates you to to work on this with me?

00:36:38.460 And he said the and it's a very profound statement.

00:36:41.660 And I will say this, too.

00:36:43.120 When I dealt with him, I found him to be professional.

00:36:45.680 He didn't do anything untoward.

00:36:47.260 He didn't suggest anything untoward.

00:36:48.740 And he was a character, you know, funny, garrulous, but never had any idea that he was involved in any criminality or anything like that.

00:36:57.140 You know, he seemed pretty straightforward.

00:36:59.060 And I asked him, you know, why would you want to help me on this?

00:37:01.280 And he said, I've watched Ukraine for 20 years, say they're fighting corruption.

00:37:05.860 And we go through the same cycle.

00:37:07.300 Every two years, a prosecutor's name.

00:37:08.860 Two years later, he's deemed corrupt.

00:37:10.640 We name another prosecutor and corruption never gets fought.

00:37:13.640 And right now in my country, my home country in Ukraine, I see a real dysfunction between the embassy, the prosecutors and the what we would call the FBI, NABU.

00:37:27.300 And I want to help you bring that to light, because at some point we got to fix it or every time we spend money in Ukraine, we're putting it down the toilet. 0.90

00:37:33.720 And so he had a very impassioned view, and his view was very identical to what I had been hearing for six or eight months from Ukrainians on the ground.

00:37:42.040 And when I did the epic interviews with, you know, the attorney general and some of his top deputies in Ukraine, they said the same thing, which is, our relationship is so bad with the embassy right now, I'm not sure we know how to fight corruption.

00:37:52.840 And that appeared to be what motivated him in helping me.

00:37:56.920 These other things that were going on, what he and Rudy were doing, you know, I had a general idea that Rudy was doing his own investigation in Ukraine.

00:38:03.720 Eventually, after my stories ran, he shared his findings with me, and I was grateful that he did.

00:38:09.380 But I think a lot, you know, everybody in Ukraine has an angle.

00:38:13.620 Everybody in Ukraine has a motive. 0.97

00:38:15.600 It's a country where people are endemically corrupt.

00:38:18.960 And I was aware of that.

00:38:20.100 I said so in all my stories, and I tried my hardest to make sure no one motive, no one angle would influence the story.

00:38:27.080 I stuck to the facts.

00:38:28.020 When I got these prosecutors on record, I went to the State Department.

00:38:31.480 I took 10 days and waited for the State Department to give me an answer.

00:38:34.640 So, you know, I think the reporting wasn't influenced by it.

00:38:37.960 But, you know, was he doing some things?

00:38:40.180 I think we have to figure out what exactly he was doing.

00:38:42.340 It didn't affect my reporting, but it's certainly intriguing in the middle of this impeachment that it suddenly surfaces as the Democrats begin.

00:38:50.100 As a journalist, how do you deal, if this is, you're now just coming across him, how do you deal with the, you know, the note that he wrote in the hotel and his new, you know, testimony now on television, at least,

00:39:09.660 that Donald Trump was up to, you know, I guess, no good, and he knew it.

00:39:15.940 How do you deal with that?

00:39:18.760 You know, every person has to answer for the conduct.

00:39:22.660 What I have to answer for are my stories.

00:39:24.440 Were the stories that I wrote in March and April and May accurate?

00:39:27.320 No, but what I'm asking you is, as a respected, in my opinion, a respected journalist, how do you handle this now?

00:39:36.600 Would you be reporting this the way the press is reporting this now?

00:39:40.620 Are they being responsible?

00:39:42.820 Well, here's a funny thing.

00:39:43.840 A lot of people, Lev Parnas has said a lot of things about me in the last 24, 48 hours.

00:39:48.760 Not a single news outlet that's reported on those things even called to get my side of the story to see if it's true.

00:39:53.700 That tells you something about the nature of reporting today, and it's why we got, when I say we, the news industry got Russia wrong,

00:40:00.420 and why they probably have a lot of the Ukraine story wrong now.

00:40:03.320 The way you deal with these things is you listen to Lev and you write his side story,

00:40:07.540 but you also go talk to the other people, the Victoria Tencings and the Joe DeGenevas and the Rudy Giuliani's and I.

00:40:13.580 For months, I kept watching that people say, I just took Rudy's stuff and wrote it.

00:40:20.100 It's the other way around.

00:40:20.900 I wrote my stuff, and then Rudy gave me his stuff afterwards.

00:40:23.220 You can confirm that with Rudy, but no one in the press even cares about timetables, facts.

00:40:28.220 There's a hysterical, breathless, crazy part of the media today, and we don't get things right,

00:40:32.760 and we let our American public down every time we do so.

00:40:35.140 I've got about a minute, so I need to phrase this quickly.

00:40:38.640 The Hill said they're going to do an investigation on all of your stuff,

00:40:41.860 and it was widely reported that you were under investigation by the Hill.

00:40:45.440 Then we hear nothing about it.

00:40:46.960 Did they investigate?

00:40:48.060 Did they do anything?

00:40:49.360 I don't know.

00:40:50.120 I haven't heard from them.

00:40:51.060 I will say this.

00:40:51.740 It was my idea.

00:40:52.740 I encouraged them to do so, because I think when people look at the facts of my story,

00:40:56.480 everything's going to be fine.

00:40:57.680 But so far, I don't know anything more than what's in the public.

00:41:00.800 I remain confident that what I reported was accurate, that it was balanced, that it had

00:41:04.520 the right context.

00:41:05.400 It had the warnings about Ukraine being corrupt.

00:41:07.220 And I think anyone who went and took a look at my response to Lieutenant Colonel Vindman when

00:41:12.380 he attacked my reporting, I just put all the facts out.

00:41:15.040 John Solomon from JustTheNews.com.

00:41:19.200 That's JustTheNews.com.

00:41:21.320 John Solomon will talk to you again.

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00:41:46.300 Well, Stu announced earlier this week that he is putting on a new show, and the new show

00:41:55.200 is Stu Does America.

00:41:57.660 It is a, it's like, it's like the Daily Show with Trevor Oliver, except funny.

00:42:03.020 John Oliver, I believe you.

00:42:04.220 And he's also not the Daily Show.

00:42:06.060 And also, I would.

00:42:06.960 Yeah, Trevor, I mean, I meant Trevor Noah.

00:42:09.440 Trevor Noah.

00:42:09.960 Got it.

00:42:10.200 Trevor Noah.

00:42:10.760 You're combining the two names.

00:42:11.700 Yeah, I can't, I, I, I've blocked Trevor Noah's name and everything.

00:42:17.900 Wow, is that an unfunny show.

00:42:19.840 But it will air on, on Blaze TV and YouTube.

00:42:23.940 You just have to go subscribe to Stu's YouTube page, which is Stu Does America.

00:42:29.760 If you go to StuDoesAmerica.com, you'll get all the links there.

00:42:32.300 Okay, so just subscribe and you can watch it.

00:42:34.240 Also podcast, you can get it, if you listen to podcasts at all, if you're listening to this

00:42:37.480 as a podcast, please subscribe as well.

00:42:39.600 Okay.

00:42:39.880 Um, and so tomorrow on my podcast, I'm doing something that we've never even considered

00:42:46.800 and we've never even done personally with each other.

00:42:51.440 And I took the podcast in 90 minutes and I just interviewed Stu about what his journey

00:43:00.140 over the last 20 years with me.

00:43:03.280 Because it's the 20th anniversary of the radio show this week, basically.

00:43:06.060 Uh, and yeah, we go over a lot of the big news stories.

00:43:10.080 If you remember the big stories that the show has been involved in, how the show kind of

00:43:14.160 came together initially.

00:43:16.120 Uh, basically the, all the behind the scenes that you can think of.

00:43:19.260 Yeah.

00:43:19.540 And we got to about half of it and, and it was an interesting conversation because I found

00:43:24.660 myself really curious about what Stu had to say.

00:43:28.680 Cause I had no idea.

00:43:30.080 We've done so many things like we were just talking about it off the air.

00:43:33.800 I have no idea what he was thinking or where he was or, or anything outside of a decision

00:43:42.000 making meeting when we decided to go to Fox and we were talking about when we went to CNN.

00:43:48.320 None of us wanted to go.

00:43:49.800 We didn't want to do.

00:43:51.180 We thought that was a bad deal at first.

00:43:54.560 I went kind of against my will and Stu was really like, I don't want the cable news is

00:44:00.200 not where we want to be.

00:44:01.780 Let's just be funny and yada, yada, yada.

00:44:04.540 And I don't know if it was a good thing or a bad thing that we went to cable news, but

00:44:08.380 we did.

00:44:09.540 Um, we did, here's a clip from the podcast that you'll be able to hear tomorrow, anywhere

00:44:14.760 you get your podcast.

00:44:15.880 But if you're a blaze TV subscriber, you can get it right now.

00:44:18.980 It's a fascinating 90 minute, uh, look at the behind the scenes.

00:44:24.160 Here's what I asked Stu.

00:44:26.920 Um, what did we learn?

00:44:29.140 What did you learn from CNN and that experience?

00:44:32.900 Listen to his answer.

00:44:34.900 What was the biggest thing you learned first from CNN?

00:44:40.060 Well, you know, it was interesting that we even got hired.

00:44:42.980 I mean, I remember thinking there was no chance that was going to actually happen.

00:44:45.860 Um, and they put us on and I was, you know, they were, I bought a house, if I'm not mistaken,

00:44:50.840 before they made the offer.

00:44:52.700 Yes, I believe that's true.

00:44:53.700 We were happy about that, by the way.

00:44:55.060 That was really exciting for us.

00:44:57.100 Uh, that was, that's the way every move happens.

00:44:59.340 Glenn makes, goes and buys a house before we lock it in.

00:45:02.400 And then we were like, oh, well now we, I guess we have to go.

00:45:04.200 I mean, it was a home there.

00:45:06.700 Um, yeah, I mean, it was, uh, cause there was some conflict internally, I think at that

00:45:11.640 point as to whether a cable news show was the right thing.

00:45:14.480 You know, I mean, we, the show was doing really well on radio.

00:45:17.460 We were growing quickly.

00:45:18.920 You were pretty well known.

00:45:20.580 And I remember thinking like, gosh, really like cable news?

00:45:23.720 Like we're going to go on there and do this thing that everybody, you know, that's what

00:45:26.020 you're supposed to do.

00:45:26.760 We all hated it.

00:45:27.500 Yeah.

00:45:27.720 None of us really liked the idea.

00:45:29.300 And I think, I think, you know, looking back in retrospect incorrectly, because it was,

00:45:33.700 it was a way to, it really did change the level of your profile.

00:45:38.320 But we changed it.

00:45:40.300 Yeah.

00:45:40.620 No, cause we did something different and we knew we were going to do something different

00:45:43.440 and we weren't going to do it unless, unless we could.

00:45:46.060 I didn't want to go in there and do the same old blah, blah, blah, talking heads type of

00:45:49.300 thing.

00:45:50.320 So when we went into CNN, I mean, I remember doing things that were, it helped shape my

00:45:59.760 understanding of the media in a way.

00:46:01.500 I don't know that like the audience necessarily always connects with and that like, we would

00:46:05.300 do things on the air that were really basic knowledge for the average talk radio listener.

00:46:12.100 You know, things that were like, okay, remember this quote from this guy and you'd bring that

00:46:15.740 up in passing.

00:46:16.360 And especially when we first started, we would get hit from standards and practices, which

00:46:21.140 is like the branch of CNN.

00:46:22.880 This is interesting to me.

00:46:23.920 And most people may not even know this or believe this, but I was on the floor and sometimes

00:46:29.160 it would take us two or three hours to cut an hour long show.

00:46:34.080 Yeah.

00:46:34.640 You should be able to cut an hour long show in about 50 minutes.

00:46:38.820 Yeah.

00:46:39.080 Right.

00:46:39.860 It sometimes took us three hours to cut.

00:46:42.080 And I was never privy to the stalls.

00:46:47.600 Yeah.

00:46:47.760 I would just be told, uh, break down the computer or, you know, break down in the control room.

00:46:53.500 This is happening.

00:46:54.580 This is happening.

00:46:55.040 Don't worry.

00:46:55.500 We'll catch it.

00:46:56.180 But you were actually in the control room with standards and practices along with all

00:47:01.700 the others on my staff that worked for Mercury.

00:47:05.480 That was the smartest thing we did, uh, that we're having to have these battles.

00:47:11.700 Yeah.

00:47:11.820 And they would be like on really basic things like we, you know, cause I talk radio, like

00:47:15.200 there, there's a, these certain things will become part of the conversation and everyone

00:47:20.900 sort of understands them.

00:47:21.780 You don't need to explain them every single time.

00:47:23.960 And we'd make points and they would push back on them.

00:47:26.200 And I'm like, do you not know this?

00:47:28.540 Do you not know this person said this?

00:47:30.160 And that really, that enlightened me into the way the media actually works because, uh,

00:47:35.460 a lot of times they don't know it.

00:47:38.180 I would, you know, I really think we should do a, uh, like a, a doc series, uh, on just some

00:47:44.740 of the things we've learned in the media because none of us have ever talked about it and I

00:47:48.760 didn't realize it until this podcast.

00:47:50.480 And, um, what we all learned and what we all saw, I think is, you know, it led me to the

00:47:58.320 place where I said at the end of Fox, this whole place, meaning New York media, it's all

00:48:04.480 going to burn down.

00:48:05.260 It's all going to burn down.

00:48:06.460 It's not real. 0.96

00:48:07.160 It's going to burn itself to the ground.

00:48:09.640 And that was one of my real feelings of we've got to get out of New York media.

00:48:15.220 Um, uh, but we all learn so much that if the American people knew really what we have seen,

00:48:27.060 each of us, uh, I think, I think their understanding of why you can't trust the, the people to repair

00:48:38.180 themselves, the, the media will never ever repair itself.

00:48:42.080 It will never heal.

00:48:44.100 It will, it won't turn the other direction and suddenly go, Oh my gosh, I get it.

00:48:50.360 We're out of step with the American people. 0.90

00:48:51.900 It will never happen.

00:48:54.040 And, and I'm thinking about one extensive long, uh, trial at CNN that involved one individual

00:49:03.540 who, uh, was very, you know, very vocal in the building about how much they hated me.

00:49:09.400 You know, you know who I'm talking about?

00:49:11.180 Yeah.

00:49:11.280 I'm sorry about that.

00:49:12.060 I just did it a couple of times.

00:49:13.140 I was at a couple of meetings.

00:49:14.600 Well, and they've, and he's still here and he's never going to change.

00:49:18.840 No, but I'm thinking of that in, and, and once you know that piece of information, it

00:49:26.020 starts to unlock how they're always going to behave.

00:49:31.180 You know what I mean?

00:49:32.120 Yeah.

00:49:32.280 I don't know that anything I saw there at the time would have, would have led me to believe

00:49:37.740 they would go as far as they've gone in the last couple of years.

00:49:40.760 No, especially the way they fought against me.

00:49:43.360 Yeah.

00:49:43.760 You know, but you know, they, they, they were fighting against me because I was,

00:49:48.280 uh, irrational and I wasn't based in fact.

00:49:51.740 And I didn't have, when we were, we talk about in this special, how much better CNN

00:49:57.320 made us because they made us prove everything.

00:50:01.360 Yeah.

00:50:01.820 So when we got to Fox, we didn't need standards in practice.

00:50:04.640 It was so easy for us.

00:50:06.480 Um, and, uh, and we were self policing ourselves, which was a great, great advantage.

00:50:13.560 One of the weird things about going through that process and like working at a CNN, like

00:50:17.120 there, there are people that I absolutely loved that we worked with there and still do.

00:50:22.300 Yep.

00:50:22.700 And it's, and it's amazing that you, you kind of see how this goes on and it's easy to

00:50:26.760 kind of think of these, you know, of an organization like that as this like monolithic.

00:50:30.840 There's a lot of people there.

00:50:32.400 I guarantee it.

00:50:33.520 And some of them that I actually know for sure feel this way that CNN has gone off their

00:50:40.460 rocker recently and, uh, they don't look at it the same way.

00:50:45.480 And that is like, it is a, it's a weird thing because you think about this.

00:50:48.920 A lot of times you see this with conservatives and there's some like liberal who's saying

00:50:52.100 who leaves the organization and gets promoted by the media.

00:50:54.700 Those things don't necessarily happen the other way, but those people exist.

00:50:57.700 They're there and they're looking at this, even if they're not conservatives, they're

00:51:00.480 just like, this is crazy.

00:51:01.680 Like what happened to us trying to actually bring the news and not bring an agenda?

00:51:06.260 You know, we went over this, the CNN app one day I went on there and the first like

00:51:10.100 28 stories on their list were all things negative about Trump.

00:51:14.260 It's like, I look, you might not like the guy.

00:51:15.980 You might think he's a bad president, but there's not another news story to cover in the entire

00:51:20.140 world other than Donald Trump and things you think he did the wrong way.

00:51:23.720 And that can't be the way that this has to be.

00:51:26.100 And that's not just us feeling that those are people in those buildings feeling that

00:51:30.940 way.

00:51:31.260 All right.

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The Glenn Beck Program - January 17, 2020

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