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Lauren Boebert is a congresswoman from Colorado who is suing Ted Cruz for millions of dollars in campaign contributions she received from him and his campaign. But did you know that she was an escort? And that she had an abortion while working as a stripper?
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On the podcast today, pretty interesting show. You have the accusations against Congresswoman
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Lauren Boebert, which she is suing for, and you'll understand why. We have Carol Roth on
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to talk about the economy. Mo Brooks is running for Senate in Alabama. He's in a runoff next week,
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and we play one of the greatest audio clips in cable news history that Mo Brooks is a part of
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and talk to him as well today. Jeff Brown joins us to talk about technology and everything going
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Wow. Welcome to the program. If you just tuned in, you tuned in at exactly the right time
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because you are about to learn something about Lauren Boebert that is shocking. Shocking.
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This is coming from the very credible group, the American Muckrakers Pact, and they have
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uncovered now. And they don't like doing it. Well, actually, they said they do this with
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glee. But I'm sure what they meant to say was it's with a heavy heart they have to expose
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Lauren Boebert that she was an unlicensed, unlicensed, mind you, paid escort and met
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clients through sugareddaddymeat.com. And she was an escort for wealthy men. And I'll have
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you know, in December 2019, Senator Cruz, quote, donated at least $136,250, end quote, to the
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Boebert campaign to help her raise large, well, they say for her help in raising, yeah, you
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know what I'm talking about. But they said it was just raising large sums of money during
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trips Boebert made to Texas. She didn't disclose $70,500 donation made by Cruz's Federal Election
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Commission filings. And it contradicted her filings. Then she went out and had an abortion in Grand
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Junction, Colorado. Now, the timeline's all screwed up here. But pay no attention to the fact that what
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they were just saying about her taking money from Ted Cruz has nothing to do with the abortions that
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she apparently got because she was Ted Cruz's, I don't know, escort. But he she had an abortion and
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probably killed Ted Cruz's son or daughter in an abortion in 2004 or five, even though the two
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never had met in 2004 or 2005. But she was about 18 years old. And she was. She was working for
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sugareddaddymeat.com. And you know what that happens. You know what happens there?
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Sugareddaddymeat.com. Lauren Boebert. Just be careful, Glenn, because they did just start as a
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new sponsor of the program. So I want to make sure you're careful on what you say about them.
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Did they? Yeah, we have live spots. Okay, thank you for that. I appreciate that. Well, now she does say,
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I'm going to sue the hell out of you because none of this is true. But that's exactly what you would
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expect a hooker to say, isn't it? It is. Now listen to this. It really is. Yeah. Now listen to this.
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There's more. Not only we're looking at the small stuff here. Not only was she a hooker, I'm sorry,
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an escort. Not only has she taken illegal money from Ted Cruz, not only has she had two abortions,
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but are you ready? She was also a stripper. Oh, and she and her husband had a meth drug problem
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as well. So they're both meth heads. Gosh, those aren't her real teeth. Now, again, I'm still focused
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on the small stuff because her husband also has a consulting contract for an oil and gas company
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for four hundred and sixty thousand dollars a year, but has zero consulting experience.
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Kind of like Hunter Biden. It's called proof. That's that's called right there. That's slam the door,
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you know, hit the the gavel stroke comes down and the case is over. That's what that is.
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Yeah. When you know, when her husband is giving advice to an oil and gas company,
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you immediately know that's a meth head right there. He's he's just a meth head,
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which is much worse than a crackhead like Joe Biden's son, where we actually have the evidence
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and the audio tapes of all of it. You know, she's she's married to a husband who is an oil
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and gas guy. And holy cow. And they were doing meth. And that's all while she was stripping
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somehow or another. Also, you know, being a payday.
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Well, that's you could see exactly what she is. Shut him down. Yeah, they shut him down.
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Shut you down. Because they didn't want you to get the truth out about Lauren Boebert.
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That's the type of power she has, apparently. Absolutely incredible. You know, I think I might
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sue, too. I think I think I might sue myself. And here you have an actual son of a president
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who is actually doing virtually all of that and more and actually doing it. And we have actual
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evidence. And yet they put all of that on Lauren, Lauren Boebert, who, you know, obviously.
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Again, you guys are just focused on the little stuff, focused on the small stuff.
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OK, you're thinking, you know, meth head oil and gas, no experience. She's a hooker. She's a stripper.
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You know, she had a couple of abortions. But do you know that also she was driving an ATV in Moab
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and had a serious wreck with her son in the in the back? And her sister-in-law was so seriously
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injured that her sister-in-law had to be flown to a hospital via lifelight. But Boebert didn't report
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the accident as required by Utah law. And then she actively worked to cover the accident up
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two weeks before the primary election, including paying her sister-in-law off to remain silent
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about the accident and the lifelight. Yeah. Yeah. That's who you that's Colorado. That's who you
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that's who you have. She's a stripper, meth head, oil and gas, greedy killer sister almost
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and have covering up with the lifelight. That's what you got right there.
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That's interesting because doesn't she didn't she own her own business, too? I mean, just to do all
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those things at once is pretty impressive. I mean, maybe this is the type of thing that should get
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you elected to Congress. Just that type of multitasking. Finally, you are talking about
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the real deal here. I guess we are. That's the way this works, apparently. I don't know, Pat. I feel
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like can you just say anything you want? I understand there's a high bar when it comes to libel and all
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these things, especially when it comes to public figures. But they're just make it seemingly making
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crap up to smear an elected official. And I don't know, does this cross that line? It seems like
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it might. Kind of seems like it to me. Yeah, it does seem that way. It seems like they like again,
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they took everything from Hunter Biden and put it on Lauren Boebert.
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Lauren Boebert didn't drop off her laptop with all of the evidence that she did all of these things
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at a random computer store and then leave it there for months.
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Yeah, but you are again missing that she used donor money to pay her taxes and restaurant rent,
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and she still owes her employees back pay, and she is currently threatening them if they say a word.
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Oh, man. Yeah, she is. I mean, how could you even possibly?
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No, you couldn't. Oh, I hope she sues the pants off of them. Can you? I've never heard such a
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kitchen sink kind of case against somebody. Usually it's like they were. She's a hooker. And that's it.
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This is. Yeah, she also she's she's very we have it on. We have it on good authority. She's also
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an alien. And she also served as chancellor of Germany in 1936.
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They really did come up with every single thing they could they could churn up here. I guess that
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that shows that they they find her to be, you know, someone who is dangerous, right? That's someone who
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they're afraid of. I don't know. I don't know why you would do something like that. They don't seem to
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have a ton of evidence. I guess maybe in the in the in the trial. We'll we'll figure that out.
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Again, you guys will not focus on the real issue.
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It's not that just it's not that just they were meth heads, but her husband.
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Jason, also a drug dealer. Oh, wow. Okay. Wow. There's another new busy family. I just I'm more
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impressed by how well they're able to keep all this stuff together.
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They have a lot of irons in the fire, don't they?
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Just the management skills alone are enough for her to be in Congress.
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Especially you have to remember they're doing meth to keep all of this going at the same time you're
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dealing and doing meth. You're an incredible person. You are. You're worth every time you
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might charge in bed because you're just you can do multiple things.
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Okay, Pat. Thank you so much. Pat Gray Unleashed is the name of the podcast and you can get it
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Oh, you know, just watching the market implode and, you know, watching the lies come out of the
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White House. So just kind of another day under building back better, Glenn. How about you?
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I know. Oh, great. Let me ask you a question. I've taken money out of the stock market, but I also
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have gotten burned before by taking it out and then, you know, missing the upside, et cetera, et cetera.
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And my, my guy who, you know, watches over my investments, he's like, Glenn, Glenn, it's going
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to come back. It's not. And I'm like, I know it will come back, but you know, I'm, I'm nearing 60.
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So if it's back in 10 years, I'm going to start needing that money. Should you have any money? I took
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about 50% out. Should you have any money in the market at this point? It have any idea what's
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coming? Yeah. So, you know, obviously this is not financial advice. And I think that you did the
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right thing by talking to your financial advisor, because obviously it makes a difference if you're
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closer to retirement or if you're somebody who's younger and has the time to wait it out. The
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reality is we don't know if I, if I knew I, and I had this crystal ball, I'd be in a yacht on the
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Mediterranean and not on your program as much as I adore you, Glenn. But that's what I would be doing.
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No, I know. I wouldn't have a program. So the reality is, you know, they show you over
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long periods of time that the people who take money out of the market tend to miss the biggest
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up days in the market. You know, in these bear market situations, there are these kind of bull
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rallies that happen. And if you miss the 10 best days of the market over, you know, a 10 or 20 year
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period, that ends up killing the returns that you get on your portfolio. So I do think, especially
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if you have a longer time horizon, that you should not panic. You know, you never want to be the one
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who's selling when the market is down. That's when you want to be buying, not that I'm saying to buy
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today. But you should be also hedging your portfolio and maybe realigning it. And I think it's a good time
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to maybe look at the types of investments you have in your portfolio. If you are looking at these
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high flying growth companies with weak balance sheets, you know, that don't make any money to
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those are the ones that are going to struggle if they have these rock solid balance sheets, they
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generate tons of cash. They're in an industry that can pass price increases onto the consumer.
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You know, those are the ones who are going to survive and they're ultimately going to thrive.
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So, you know, that's the kind of thing you should be talking to your financial advisor about is maybe
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repositioning the portfolio right now. So what's really crazy because of ESG,
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right now would be the time, if I'm not mistaken, you know, Wall Street. But right now would be the
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time that you would think you've got to get into oil and gas because they're going to make a killing.
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They'll invest and they'll bring, you know, we'll start to really boom and they'll make a killing on
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it. But that's not true anymore because the market is not free. Oil and gas, is that even smart to
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So it depends on your perspective. You know, I'm a follow the money kind of person. And obviously,
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like you said, the ESG push, the green push, the decarbonization push is so entrenched. You know
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that they're going to throw more money at that. And they've been keeping money from these sort of
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traditional areas of investment. So the question you have to ask yourself, and again, I wish I could
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tell you the answer. I can only tell you what to think about in terms of the question, is do you
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think that we're going to see a reversal, of course? Because right now, part of the reason that
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everything is so expensive is because we have had all of this capital being directed away from the
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industry. And there's severe underinvestment in all types of fossil fuels and traditional energy
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sources. So the play that you're going to have to go through in your mind is, do you think something
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is going to change? Or, you know, eventually here we get some temporary relief, and then the green
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people continue to march on and, you know, completely kill our dependence on fossil fuels.
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What is frightening is that letter that came from Biden yesterday, where he said to the oil
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companies, I will, I have emergency orders, where I will begin to direct this. This is what Hugo Chavez
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did. And it was over for Venezuela. Okay, so let's go back, you know, into, you know, whatever it was
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50, 60 years ago, Venezuela was the fourth wealthiest country in the world. And like you said, that their
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powers that be said, we have wealth inequality, we need to hand this over to the government,
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and we'll make sure that you are all rich. And they nationalized oil in a bunch of industries.
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Do you know what the median net worth in Venezuela is today, Glenn?
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It's zero. I am not making this up. This comes from the Credit Suisse report on world wealth,
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the median net worth, they went from the fourth wealthiest country in the world to a median net worth,
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not even an average, a median of zero. The midpoint of the country's net worth is zero,
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because they nationalized the oil and gas industry and the wealth. So that is the trajectory they want
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So Carol, is it is it unreasonable to say, I mean, you know, Biden is lying to us about gas and oil and
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ESG and all of that stuff? He's just out and out lying to us. Is it unreasonable to say that that's
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I mean, it's certainly one huge element of it. I mean, just think of if we had, you know,
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some retraction of our energy, where one day a week, we couldn't, you know, have enough energy
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to power electricity or to get us to where we need to be. And we all had to move to four day work
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weeks. Think of the productivity that we would lose. Think of how our GDP would shrink. Think of
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the rolling consequences of that throughout the economy. And yeah, that's a really good way to
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start killing the ownership of people. But Glenn, they have so many different ways they are trying
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to attack you and make sure that you own nothing. That's just one of the tools in their pocket.
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I will tell you, I'm up here at my ranch and I am surrounded. I live in a town of very, very small.
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I mean, the next biggest town over is 5,000. And it is, it's all ranchers. I mean, it's all farmers
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and regular people, uh, dairymen, uh, and they're all terrified. I mean, they can't buy fertilizer.
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Uh, water is already at a premium. And now the state of Washington and the state of Idaho is
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talking about taking down the dams, which would destroy the energy here. And it would destroy all
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of the water. I live in a desert. Okay. It's a high mountain desert. A lot of farms and cattle are
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here. And on top of that, they're also expressing to me fear that they'll even be able to keep their
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land. I think these are real concerns and I hope the place that you're in is Galt's Gulch because
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we've been looking for it for quite some time. Um, but the reality is that the wealthiest people
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in the United States, you know, the Bill Gates is the Harvard hedge fund, they have all been buying
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up not only land, but water rights. So it's something that we do need to keep a very close
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eye on because the question is, you know, why do they think this is such a good investment? You know,
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they're, they're looking for return on their investment. So what do they think is going to
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happen with the prices that they're making investments in farmland and in water
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rights? It's a, an area, you know, it's one of those, uh, I'll call it a dark grace one.
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Cause obviously we've talked about it, but really not enough people are focused on it. Um, and you
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know, to the extent that, you know, you've got this rationing of water on top of everything else.
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I mean, I can't even imagine that scenario and the social unrest that comes with that.
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So we have 30 year mortgage rates. They were last week, 5.5% this week. They're now at 6.28%
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and the fed raised the rates yesterday. What is this going to mean?
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I do think they came down a little bit intraday, but yeah, it's still very high. This is a very
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challenging question. And the challenging question is because we have such a supply and demand imbalance
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in the housing market, again, because of all the idiotic things that the powers that be have done
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over the past couple of decades. So we have an undersupply of its estimated four to five plus
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million houses. And that's what has supported, um, you know, these high prices and housing. Plus
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you have all of these corporate buyers who are flush with cash were coming in and they are buying
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up. Talk about, you know, you will own nothing. They are buying up housing. The thing that makes
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people, um, you know, gain generational wealth and they're doing it with all cash. So they don't need
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a mortgage. And sometimes they're not even looking, they're not even doing an inspection. So they're
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getting, you know, very, very favorable, um, outcomes. So yeah, I mean, in terms of what happens
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with the, the, the housing industry, the mortgage rates are going to keep, uh, first time buyers and
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people who are just, you know, able to afford out, out of the market even further, you know,
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they were already hurt because of the, the inflated asset bubble, you know, whether that
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means we'll certainly see some cooling off. I don't think we're going to see like a 2008,
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2009 type implosion. Cause we just don't have enough houses. And I don't think right now people are
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over 11. The best of the Glenn Beck program. Jeff Brown. How are you, sir?
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Jeff, are you there? I am. Good morning. Hey, uh, thank you so much for coming on. Uh, can we start
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with, um, can we start with just this small little mini nuke that is being developed in,
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uh, Idaho? Can you, do you know anything about it and is it real and could we actually get this off
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the ground? Uh, yes, it's, um, it's very real. It's, uh, it's interesting research, uh, that's being
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done up in, uh, in Idaho. Um, of course these smaller nuclear reactors, um, have been in development
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for years, uh, much safer, not capable of a nuclear meltdown. Um, very promising, obviously
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doesn't emit any, uh, have any carbon emissions, uh, is it produces energy, uh, wonderful solution
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to many of the problems that, uh, we're experiencing, uh, today. Um, but it does have one big political
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problem, uh, that I see, and that is the fuel that it uses. Of course, it still uses a radioactive
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fuel. It's kind of a low grade enriched, uh, uranium, not quite the same as what's used for
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nuclear fission reactors, but, um, probably the biggest problem that I see with something like
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that isn't as much, um, uh, a technology issue, but one of a political issue. Uh, there will be
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some level of radioactive waste, and, uh, I think it would be very hard to, um, uh, to push that
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through from a political standpoint. Jeez, we are just killing ourselves. How far are we, Jeff, from,
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you know, we are just shutting down oil and gas and coal. We're going to go into, uh, brownouts.
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Everybody is saying that that's coming this summer. Um, you know, I'm, I'm all for a green
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revolution. I'm all for, you know, everything we have to do to have good, stable energy that's
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really super clean. Um, but we're shutting down. We're talking about getting rid of all
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the hydroelectric plants and getting rid of all of the dams in Idaho and Washington state.
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That's insanity. How close are we to something revolutionary?
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Uh, well, there's, um, quite a few reasons to be, for us to be very optimistic, actually. Uh, back in
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2019, I actually, um, my prediction at the time was that by 2024, um, we would have a major breakthrough
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in nuclear fusion reactors, uh, in that, um, we'd see the first fusion reactors actually producing,
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uh, net positive energy. In other words, they would produce more energy than was required to
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run and control, um, fusion reaction. And the benefit of nuclear fusion is that, um, some forms
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of it produce absolutely no radioactive waste. And I can say, um, sitting here in 2022, the summer of
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2022, um, I feel more confident than ever than that, that that prediction will be proven to be
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accurate. And the real exciting developments are actually happening in the private sector right
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now. So there's companies out there, Commonwealth fusion systems, uh, out of Boston, uh, general
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fusion out of Vancouver. Uh, TAE is another big one out of California. They're doing incredible work
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and they're getting very close, uh, to that point of, of at least producing proof of concept.
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So, yeah, that, that's what I was going to say. Proof of concept, because I've heard
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that, that they just did an experiment and showed that it is, it's possible and it's working, but it
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was like a fraction of a second that it was online, right?
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That's, that's right. They haven't built out yet the commercial scale, um, uh, fusion reactors,
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which is what's happening right now. And, you know, once they have that commercial scale,
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and we can think of that as being something that would fit inside of, uh, their compact reactors
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that would fit inside of the, uh, a semi-trailer, for example, or, you know, a small warehouse, um,
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they'll be that small and, um, much better designed for a distributed, uh, uh, utility grid,
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Um, when it comes to batteries, I, I don't know if you saw the light year, um, that is coming out.
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I think this is a French vehicle and they're talking about how it has solar panels on it.
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So you never have to charge it, blah, blah, blah. But you know, it, it, it also has a range
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of 43 miles. Um, you know, you, you can, you can charge it as you drive it. Um, and, uh, you
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know, you can get better mileage on it, but that's what they're guaranteeing. Now they're
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saying this is the first one of its kind that can charge it, uh, on the way. I know in my house,
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I'm completely off the grid. So I have wind, solar, and natural gas backups, uh, or propane
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backup generators. Um, but it is, it's not ready for prime time. It's way, way expensive.
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And the batteries that I have are, I don't know, 15 or $20,000 a piece. And there's a size
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of a couch. How close are we to on batteries? And with everything that's going on in the world,
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I mean, we won't mine our own, uh, you know, minerals for batteries. Are we going to be
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Well, that, you know, that, that car, the light year, I mean, it's, it's an, I kind of
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look at that as an interesting science project. Uh, you know, theoretically you can charge,
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you know, uh, uh, the, the, the batteries through the solar panels, uh, to get enough
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to drive a few miles, but it takes such a long time. It's not practical at all. And to
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your point, very expensive. The car is more than a quarter of a million dollars. The batteries
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add additional costs onto that. A much smarter approach is actually more similar to what you've
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taken. You know, put solar panels, for example, on the roof of your home, buy a $50,000, uh, electric
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vehicle and charge that vehicle with the electricity that's coming off of your solar panels. That'll
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get you in at a fraction of the price and, um, uh, you know, emission free. That's a great
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solution. Now there is something I go ahead. I was going to say there's something I think you'll
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be very excited about, um, which is a new company, uh, that just came out of stealth, uh, called
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Avalanche, uh, Energy. And they are building the equivalent of what's happening in Idaho, in Idaho,
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but a fusion reactor and get this, their device is roughly the size of a large shoe box.
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So one foot by feet in size, you and I could easily stand up and hold one in our hands. And
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their approach to the fusion reactor is very different rather than the temperature of the sun
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to create this plasma reaction or extremely high pressures, uh, to kind of fuse ions. Um, they're
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taking, uh, an interesting approach in trapping ions in orbit and then using very high voltage to
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create the plasma reaction. So in theory, 600,000 volts, uh, will, uh, maintain this plasma reaction,
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fuse the ions and release this clean energy, no radioactive waste of any kind. And what's
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interesting about this is it's something that's the size of a shoe box could actually be used as the
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source of energy for a car, for a semi-trailer, for a cargo ship, and even for an aircraft.
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Wow. How far away is that? I'm just looking at it now. It's incredible.
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It is. And in fact, um, it's, it's very timely for our discussion. This, uh, they just came out of
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stealth, uh, just a few weeks ago, very promising technology looks good on paper in terms of theory.
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They're already working on some prototypes. The most challenging thing that they need to overcome is
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really how to manage this 600,000 volts, basically reaction inside of the small device. It's no easy
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challenge, but, uh, it can be done. I can see how it can be done, uh, which is why it's such a
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promising company. And so I think this is a great kind of compliment to these compact nuclear fusion
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reactors, which would, you know, fuel municipalities, cities, large neighborhoods, casinos. And then this
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would be small enough to, uh, to fuel a small group of homes, or like I said, a semi-trailer or
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even an aircraft, which is a really exciting possibility. Okay. So, um, one more question. I've
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got to take a break in about a minute and we'll come back with you, but, um, uh, 600 and some
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volts, uh, volts and Watts are different. How many Watts is that? How many Watts would it
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take? I mean, how can you get it from the sun from, you know, in your car? Uh, well, let's,
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let's put it this way. Uh, an easy analog would be a 600,000 volts. Um, uh, compare that to, uh,
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the voltage in your car battery, you know, what, what uses turns your engine over that's
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about 13 volts. So there's a big gap between, uh, the two, um, to maintain this reaction,
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but it's not insurmountable. That's the, that's the key. Okay. So it's a shoe box connected to
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a very large series of batteries. Uh, yeah. Well, in fact, you wouldn't need it as many batteries
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because it's producing a net energy output, right? So once you get it started, it doesn't,
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it can feed off itself. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Wow. That's great. The
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batteries, the batteries would store enough energy to start the reaction and then maintain it.
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Wow. That, that would be incredible. Okay. Hang on just a second more with, uh, Jeff Brown. I want
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to talk to him a little bit about AI, some really scary stuff's coming out. And you know, the average
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Joe is not going to know what's alive and what's not with AI soon. And we'll talk to him about that
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