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00:02:04.080 So, I got something from Porter Stansbury, and I want you to listen to this.

00:02:11.100 A year ago, we published a dire warning about a mega-cap American stock.

00:02:17.800 This was the only mega-cap stock we told investors to avoid.

00:02:22.720 It's no ordinary business. It's America's most strategically important country, a company.

00:02:29.040 Listen to that. America's most strategically important company.

00:02:32.880 We said it would soon collapse.

00:02:36.000 On January 27, 2023, the headline was,

00:02:39.420 Coming Soon, The Boeing Collapse.

00:02:42.500 How did we know?

00:02:44.140 Well, for the last 20 years, there hasn't been a company in America

00:02:47.620 that has embraced more bad ideas from financial engineering to ESG than Boeing.

00:02:54.400 In 1997, Boeing merged with fellow aerospace manufacturer McDonnell Douglas in a $13 billion stock swap.

00:03:02.780 It was a match made in hell.

00:03:05.120 Boeing was known for quality.

00:03:06.780 McDonnell was known for financial engineering with a focus on cost-cutting and the company's share price.

00:03:13.120 Although the Boeing name survived, it was McDonnell Douglas' attitude that prevailed.

00:03:18.500 McDonnell's CEO Harry Stonecipher, who took over the day-to-day operations at Boeing,

00:03:26.460 immediately took a carving knife to Boeing's highly paid engineering staff.

00:03:30.760 In May 2001, Boeing management made a physical break with its engineers' manufacturing headquarters,

00:03:38.080 stayed in Seattle while corporate moved to downtown Chicago, 1,700 miles away.

00:03:44.300 That split symbolized the growing distance between the builders and the bosses.

00:03:48.980 To say the company's engineers were disenfranchised doesn't describe it.

00:03:54.640 Boeing's entire culture was erased. 0.92

00:03:57.840 CEO Stonecipher even bragged about what he had destroyed.

00:04:02.380 Quote,

00:04:02.940 When people say I changed the culture of Boeing, that was the intent.

00:04:07.840 So that's like a business.

00:04:10.800 It's run like a business rather than a great engineering firm.

00:04:14.120 I don't know if you know this, but making airplanes fly really requires a great engineering firm, but maybe that's just me.

00:04:24.600 Today, both Boeing's CFO, Brian West, and CEO, David Calhoun, are formerly senior GE finance people.

00:04:33.120 And they've done to Boeing what they did to GE, destroy the balance sheet.

00:04:38.480 From 2010 to 2019, Boeing spent $44 billion on buying back its own shares, while adding $50 billion in debt.

00:04:48.940 This reduced the share count by 23% and sent the stock price up $200.

00:04:54.920 But the underlying business?

00:04:57.560 Bean counters cannot build airplanes.

00:05:01.120 Boeing's planes began falling out of the sky.

00:05:04.280 As a result, free cash flow plunged to negative $4.3 billion annually by 2019.

00:05:12.420 Today's bankruptcy of Boeing grows more certain.

00:05:16.600 Cumulative net income over the last three years is negative $20 billion.

00:05:22.360 And the company has $52 billion now in total debt.

00:05:26.100 Interest expense is currently $2.5 billion a year.

00:05:29.680 But that's going to move much higher as Boeing's debt will be downgraded to junk.

00:05:35.300 But never fear.

00:05:36.780 Investors have nothing to worry about, with one of America's greatest and most important companies spiraling towards bankruptcy.

00:05:44.780 Stephanie Pope is the chief operating officer of Boeing.

00:05:48.780 She holds a bachelor's degree in accounting from Southwest Missouri State University and an MBA from another intellectual powerhouse, Lindenwood University.

00:06:01.200 She also has zero engineering background.

00:06:06.160 Now, why would someone with this kind of background be placed in charge of operations in the world's leading aerospace engineering firm?

00:06:14.500 Well, maybe it's because she is the executive sponsor of Boeing's Women Inspiring Leadership, a group dedicated to increasing gender diversity awareness.

00:06:28.140 Boeing's planes keep falling apart.

00:06:31.260 These outcomes are the results of years and years of bad ideas, starting with the intentional destruction of Boeing's engineering culture,

00:06:40.620 followed by the GE-style financial engineering, and now the company's full embrace of modern Marxism ESG.

00:06:48.920 Like we predicted a year ago, Boeing is going to collapse.

00:06:53.240 When the debt gets downgraded, the stock will drop by more than 50% to below $100, and that's just what we warned about GE and GM.

00:07:04.120 Boeing is a wonderful metaphor for our entire society.

00:07:15.580 When, now listen carefully, boys and girls, when we promote people because of their political views or their race or their sex,

00:07:25.860 even if that sex is completely made up, instead of what they know and who they are, the content of their character,

00:07:37.060 we will continue to have planes fall out of the sky.

00:07:43.940 Whatever company is involved in all of this stuff, their, quote, planes, whatever it is they build,

00:07:51.580 will fall out of the sky.

00:07:53.220 Until our government gets away from this craziness,

00:07:58.720 America's republic will fall out of the sky.

00:08:05.880 Let me just give you a couple of things.

00:08:08.180 First of all, do you think this is a good idea?

00:08:10.240 The NIH has spent millions on equity, LGBT issues, instead of researching cures.

00:08:19.140 How do you think that's going to work out for us?

00:08:24.980 DEI, the boondoggle, cost us millions.

00:08:29.900 And yet, in all of these, without all of these universities, all of these companies,

00:08:37.280 sorry, companies that are embracing DEI,

00:08:40.480 University of Michigan is paying probably a total of about $80 million a year

00:08:47.360 for their 142 employees to promote DEI and all the programs, okay?

00:08:53.800 So how's it working out?

00:08:56.420 $85 million was spent on DEI at that one university.

00:09:04.300 Black students' experience on campus hasn't improved.

00:09:07.920 Hispanic and Asian enrollments increased, but Black enrollment dropped slightly from 4.3 to 3.9.

00:09:16.040 With percentage of students who were satisfied with the overall campus climate,

00:09:20.020 it decreased 72% to 61%.

00:09:24.720 Your education plane is about to fall out of the sky.

00:09:31.680 How about energy?

00:09:32.920 Let's all go EV.

00:09:37.540 And in fact, let's have a government that thinks they know better, thinks that they are God.

00:09:44.480 And so they're going to reduce the oil that we can pump,

00:09:49.760 starve us for anything that we know historically works, 0.96

00:09:53.980 to give us a bunch of crap that doesn't work, 0.90

00:09:57.460 that we still have to have the energy to propel. 0.79

00:10:00.900 We still have to make electricity so the car can plug in.

00:10:07.440 Where's that coming from, gang?

00:10:09.820 Oh, don't worry about it.

00:10:11.380 These cars are so great.

00:10:13.460 Really?

00:10:14.200 Did you hear?

00:10:15.080 I think it's Hertz is getting rid of all of their EVs.

00:10:19.020 They're turning in their entire fleet.

00:10:21.480 And that's happening over and over and over again.

00:10:27.580 Meanwhile, hey, let's be more like Europe.

00:10:30.020 Let's be more enlightened like France.

00:10:32.580 France is dropping its renewable targets to fully embrace nuclear energy.

00:10:40.120 Why?

00:10:41.180 So they have energy sovereignty.

00:10:43.840 Sovereignty, how dare France separate itself from the collective?

00:10:51.720 And meanwhile, on MSNBC, Chris Matthews on Wednesday claimed that, and I'm quoting,

00:10:59.780 rural Americans are essentially members of a cult who will vote in, quote,

00:11:05.780 their craziness if Democrats don't show up at the polls, our craziness, our craziness.

00:11:15.120 I've had enough.

00:11:16.340 I've really had enough.

00:11:17.800 What is our craziness, Chris, that we want to vote in?

00:11:21.700 For instance, how about the president actually has to go to Congress to ask if, hey, can we

00:11:30.020 get into another war?

00:11:32.080 That's not Republican craziness.

00:11:34.800 That currently is Democratic craziness as we are now backing into a war in the Middle

00:11:42.220 East.

00:11:42.780 Another one.

00:11:44.520 Is that crazy to ask?

00:11:46.680 Is it our love for history and heritage that's so crazy?

00:11:50.420 The mission statement in our Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal?

00:11:56.960 That we don't believe that to be anti-racist you must indeed be racist?

00:12:03.420 To do the opposite of what Martin Luther King preached?

00:12:08.080 No, I don't think that's crazy.

00:12:10.360 I think that's settled science.

00:12:12.260 Are we crazy for demanding that our border be shut down until we can get control?

00:12:21.360 Is it crazy to say 10 million new people have come across our border?

00:12:27.820 We don't know who they are.

00:12:30.260 We're building shanty towns. 0.98

00:12:34.240 Our kids are being kicked out of their own schools so we can put illegals in a nice home because 1.00

00:12:43.500 we're out of hotels.

00:12:46.220 Is that crazy?

00:12:47.860 Is that crazy?

00:12:52.220 We don't even know who's in our country, Chris.

00:12:55.580 Mark my words.

00:12:56.700 The intelligence offices in the United States have just come out with a warning.

00:13:03.360 They said that Hezbollah, Hamas, they have probably some operatives here in the United States.

00:13:12.580 Oh, do you think so?

00:13:15.180 So does every country that hates us.

00:13:17.900 They're lining up at the border and we let them through and boy, it's really crazy to

00:13:23.580 ask why the Biden administration said, oh, if they're from China, pretty much just let

00:13:29.500 them through.

00:13:31.780 Did we learn nothing from 9-11 or did I just dream that up in a crazy fever dream, Chris?

00:13:39.480 Is it crazy to insist the Constitution be followed and the Bill of Rights that maybe we don't

00:13:46.820 have secret courts, maybe we're not spied on, that our CIA and other intelligence agencies

00:13:53.400 don't conduct cognitive operations, quote unquote, on our fellow citizens?

00:14:01.940 Is it crazy to say we need to be energy independent at a time when oil tankers are being hijacked

00:14:07.720 by Iran?

00:14:09.840 When whole fleets of electric cars are being sold and the old combustion engine is back

00:14:15.560 because the tech isn't there?

00:14:18.780 Is it too much to ask in a country like ours to allow the citizens of the country, a republic,

00:14:26.920 to make their own decisions on what they buy, what they eat, what medicine they inject in

00:14:32.360 their own bodies?

00:14:33.180 Is it really all that crazy to demand that the government rein in spending when we're at

00:14:40.120 $34 trillion in debt and our deficit, just our deficit in December alone, was 50% higher

00:14:49.960 than they said it would be?

00:14:52.060 Is it really crazy to question authority when that authority has lied to you about serious

00:14:59.740 issues, too many to even count?

00:15:03.880 Corruption at the highest levels, laptop Russia, Clinton servers, January 6th, Ray Epps, ESG,

00:15:12.180 collusion with big tech to silence and censor those that do question?

00:15:17.480 Is it really, is that really crazy, Chris?

00:15:20.820 Because to me, it doesn't sound all that crazy.

00:15:27.320 How about some accountability?

00:15:29.580 It's so crazy to ask for some answers on what happened in Afghanistan.

00:15:34.280 Losing at least a billion dollars now, just reported, of our hard-earned money in Ukraine.

00:15:39.940 And dare I say, the lab leak, our role in that, as well as all the lies from the government

00:15:46.720 and the companies like Pfizer and Fauci.

00:15:50.400 It isn't crazy for those of us who actually believe in the Constitution.

00:15:56.540 For those of us who actually believe in the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights

00:16:02.080 and the rule of law, not to be dismissed, demonized, called traitors, insurrectionists, or crazy.

00:16:11.100 And, Chris, until you and your elitist leftist friends who despise half the country,

00:16:17.300 the half that actually works hard, plays by the rule, pays their taxes, fight and dies in our country's war,

00:16:24.460 stop acting like all of your new ideas like a hundred-plus genders, 1.00

00:16:30.340 teaching of history that destroys the actual truth,

00:16:33.460 until you abandon your elitist attitude that we're all rubes and only you know better, 0.94

00:16:40.620 well, I guess we'll continue to be crazy in your eyes. 1.00

00:16:44.140 But in ours, it is your, indeed, clinical mental illness 0.99

00:16:51.720 that is the real danger to freedom, democracy, or, dare I say it, the republic.

00:17:04.240 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

00:17:07.860 I've said to you for a while, 2024 is going to be a year that makes or breaks us.

00:17:16.880 2024, maybe it goes on to 2025, but it's going to happen.

00:17:21.100 It's going to happen fast when it does.

00:17:23.940 Davos is meeting next week.

00:17:25.480 We have a couple of people on the ground in Davos that will be giving us updates of what's going on.

00:17:29.940 But their theme this year is restoring trust, because it seems like nobody trusts us

00:17:36.320 because of these crazy people who tell all this misinformation.

00:17:40.920 So their number one threat they see in 2024 is mis- and disinformation.

00:17:50.880 So I'm going to give you some stuff that was heart-stopping for somebody who believes in free speech.

00:17:58.660 In fact, it was so shocking to me, I sent it to my whole family and said,

00:18:05.480 and so it begins.

00:18:07.240 Same with the economy.

00:18:08.820 And we were talking about these natural or national asset?

00:18:15.700 Natural.

00:18:16.440 Natural asset companies.

00:18:18.480 And these companies that will control the land.

00:18:22.760 And I can't explain to you or express to you enough concern over this to wake people up.

00:18:37.880 But if you are awake, you must get online and write the SEC.

00:18:45.220 They have a time where you can publicly comment.

00:18:49.020 It has to be overwhelmingly, no, don't do this.

00:18:52.280 And you have to get Congress and your senators involved in this right away.

00:18:57.080 They'll be doing it later this month?

00:18:59.980 Or it is still?

00:19:01.840 We have like six more days.

00:19:03.920 Six more days.

00:19:04.660 So what I've done is I have retweeted to the top of my Twitter feed my comments that I sent to the SEC.

00:19:11.660 And I invite everyone.

00:19:13.220 You can borrow as little or the entire thing.

00:19:16.080 And it shows you who to send it to.

00:19:18.380 It tells you the subject line.

00:19:19.880 Because you have to have the file number in the subject line or they just won't read it.

00:19:24.880 And you can just go ahead and copy that.

00:19:28.960 I'm retweeting your tweet.

00:19:31.860 Perfect.

00:19:32.540 Right now.

00:19:33.100 Also, you can get Carol Roth or Glenn Beck.

00:19:35.680 Just find us on X and get the information.

00:19:39.900 Copy and paste.

00:19:41.100 Yeah.

00:19:41.360 Glenn, let me just read to you two things that show you how insane and evil this is.

00:19:46.360 From the chairman of this IEG that created the company.

00:19:51.100 And by the way, as I said before, creating a company structure is absolutely difficult, unusual, and a red flag in and of itself.

00:20:00.560 But if that wasn't a big enough red flag, they have created their own system of accounting, which is not just a red flag.

00:20:07.480 It is a neon sign.

00:20:08.660 The CEO said, quote, we created a new accounting system, which we call statements of ecological performance, which account for the flow of ecosystem services in financial terms.

00:20:22.820 What does that mean?

00:20:23.960 That means absolutely nothing other than they are trying to scam the system, which, by the way, the climate cultists and social justice warriors, this is entirely what they're setting out to do.

00:20:34.720 They're setting out to end around the legal system.

00:20:37.420 The CEO said, reportedly said, quote, we are looking for a private sector approach that wasn't dependent on policy.

00:20:45.560 It wasn't dependent on traditional taxes.

00:20:47.600 It wasn't dependent on regulation or philanthropy to price in these assets and give investors the opportunity to invest directly in nature, whether that's for climate or biodiversity.

00:20:59.700 So they're telling you the plan right there.

00:21:01.940 So let me just let me just emphasize this.

00:21:04.240 This is a company that cannot make any money.

00:21:07.700 It won't make any money.

00:21:09.080 Why would you invest in that?

00:21:11.080 Well, if you're Apple or Google and you're running all kinds of server farms and that has a big CO2 footprint, what do you do?

00:21:21.200 You offset.

00:21:22.060 So you buy Yellowstone National Park and you close it down for manage it, just return it to nature.

00:21:30.640 There, I've done my part.

00:21:32.620 That's that's the insidiousness of this.

00:21:35.860 They'll keep on polluting, but they'll shut everything else that's not necessarily like cows, farms, you, your town.

00:21:48.340 They'll shut everything down so you can't pollute because they need to offset their carbon footprint.

00:21:55.800 What about Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds, places that depend on oil getting involved in lands where there's drilling to say, oh, well, we'll just stop the U.S. from drilling.

00:22:07.760 They're our biggest competitors.

00:22:09.260 You know, then we'll be cornering the market even more and be able to send the price of oil through the roof.

00:22:13.900 This is so incredibly dangerous, which is why we already had, I think it's 25 or 26 attorney generals from various states join with Utah and Kansas to oppose this.

00:22:28.180 But we need more voices.

00:22:29.940 There are people who have been writing and, you know, saying that they have been using their voice.

00:22:34.360 We need to make a big deal about this or it's going to be too late.

00:22:38.880 Six days.

00:22:39.640 Motion.

00:22:40.440 Six days.

00:22:41.440 Six days.

00:22:42.000 Six days.

00:22:42.500 Okay, let me switch to the other thing that King Biden has decided through the Labor Department.

00:22:49.700 When Gavin Newsom put through that the gig economy was over in California, everyone, Republicans, Democrats, everyone, since it's been implemented, has said this is a disaster.

00:23:04.380 Explain what it is.

00:23:05.560 So this came out of the bad incubator for all ideas in the United States, which is California.

00:23:13.260 It was called AB5 there.

00:23:15.780 And unfortunately, people laughed when we first talked about it and said, oh, people in California get what they vote for.

00:23:22.400 And I said, don't say that because it's coming to America.

00:23:25.760 And what they decided to do was go after small businesses, the gig economy, and economic freedom to say, we don't want people to be able to work independently.

00:23:37.200 We want to force them to be employees.

00:23:40.220 For people who are so concerned about choice, they do not seem to care if you have a choice of labor.

00:23:46.920 So imagine, Glenn, I come to you and say, listen, I'm busy with all these other things, but I want to, you know, write for the blaze.

00:23:53.660 Let's just enter into a contractor relationship.

00:23:56.200 You don't have to take me on as an employee, and I will write for the blaze.

00:23:59.380 And you say, great.

00:24:00.080 And the government goes, I'm sorry, guys.

00:24:02.140 You know, we can't do that.

00:24:03.600 They are getting in the middle of that.

00:24:05.800 And maybe you say, well, you know, the blaze is a big organization, so, you know, what does it matter?

00:24:10.560 But this impacts tens of millions of small businesses and almost 60 million gig workers.

00:24:16.880 By the way, the greater majority of them want to be independent.

00:24:21.800 They value their flexibility.

00:24:23.640 They value the ability to set work on their own terms.

00:24:27.840 And the government wants to come in, not, again, through legislation, but through a rule, through the executive branch, and say, I'm sorry that you want to work that way.

00:24:38.180 You cannot work.

00:24:39.840 They want to take away your ability to set the terms of how you work.

00:24:44.120 Just so you know, that pretty much ends DoorDash.

00:24:47.180 It ends Uber because the people have to be paid by Uber, and then their insurance is paid for.

00:24:54.500 I doubt they could even use their own car.

00:24:56.720 How many people have you gotten into their car in an Uber, and they'll say, I just love this.

00:25:01.900 I, you know, I do it.

00:25:02.900 I make extra money.

00:25:03.720 I set my own hours.

00:25:04.720 I drive when I want.

00:25:05.620 I, you know, I don't drive.

00:25:07.280 It's fantastic.

00:25:08.620 All of that would be gone.

00:25:10.300 You would have to become an employee.

00:25:12.480 Well, you know what's going to happen, like they did in California.

00:25:15.100 The big companies will band together and get an exception.

00:25:17.840 But who won't be able to do that are the small businesses that depend on the gig economy, the movie sets that have a caterer, the hairdresser who rents a chair at a salon, the business who hires somebody to do some editorial content a couple times a year.

00:25:34.840 Those are the businesses that are going to get hurt.

00:25:38.020 So this is, again, a total focus on centralizing the economy in the hands of big unions, big company, big labor.

00:25:47.080 And they want to kill small businesses and freedom that don't toe the line. 0.98

00:25:51.820 They don't want you to be able to do what you want to do and work the way you want to do.

00:25:56.060 They want to control every aspect of it.

00:25:58.380 And what it's going to do is kill the number of jobs and opportunities.

00:26:02.840 We should be growing this country.

00:26:05.120 We have a massive deficit.

00:26:06.800 The way out is through growing revenues and through freedom and expanding our revenue base.

00:26:12.820 And all they do is continue to put up barriers to us being able to work and live freely.

00:26:20.200 And you know what?

00:26:20.780 It's not just economic barriers. 0.97

00:26:22.520 It's the DEI crap and all that. 0.79

00:26:24.680 I did a monologue at the beginning of the show about Boeing. 0.92

00:26:27.260 You want to know why Boeing, their planes are falling out of the sky.

00:26:32.600 They're going to go bankrupt.

00:26:34.620 Boeing, Boeing, one of the greatest aircraft companies of all time.

00:26:40.640 They're going to go out of business.

00:26:43.220 Why?

00:26:44.160 Because they've embraced DEI and diversity.

00:26:47.860 And they've looked at everything as just make money, accounting, not engineering.

00:26:55.260 They have violated all of the well-known principles of how to run an aircraft company.

00:27:04.340 And that's what we're doing to everything.

00:27:07.660 That's what we're doing to the country.

00:27:09.040 We're violating all of these very well-established principles for new ideas.

00:27:16.260 I got a new idea on how to account.

00:27:18.180 I have a new idea about inflation.

00:27:21.600 We can spend as much as we want.

00:27:23.540 It doesn't matter because I say it doesn't matter. 0.99

00:27:26.220 That's bull crap. 0.96

00:27:28.120 Universal principles do not change. 0.99

00:27:31.160 And we're starting to see the effects of it.

00:27:34.040 And when it starts to crumble, it's going to crumble quickly.

00:27:38.680 You lose Boeing, well, that's going to happen.

00:27:42.740 It's going to happen.

00:27:43.440 Will the government step in and pick it up?

00:27:46.620 I guarantee you there'll be shouts for that.

00:27:48.840 Well, this is so important strategically that maybe the United States government, we are going

00:27:53.580 to be the country that builds the zil again. 0.99

00:27:57.080 There is a reason why Russia, everything they built was crap. 1.00

00:28:03.920 And we are quickly following in those footsteps. 0.99

00:28:07.460 Carol, thank you.

00:28:09.020 Thanks, Glenn.

00:28:09.880 I appreciate it.

00:28:12.160 Okay.

00:28:13.940 Please do yourself a favor.

00:28:17.920 Everything is connected.

00:28:19.820 Everything is connected.

00:28:21.880 These are not just random mistakes.

00:28:24.240 They're not just, oh, wow, that policy didn't really work.

00:28:28.260 I think they're all designed to not work.

00:28:31.160 They're all designed to change us fundamentally, to destroy what we have.

00:28:37.760 You'll be poor, you'll own nothing, and you'll like it.

00:28:41.140 No, I don't want that.

00:28:42.620 That's my choice, not your choice.

00:28:49.120 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:28:54.240 I'll tell you, he better not question my intelligence.

00:29:01.320 I'll tell you that right now.

00:29:03.320 Thomas Massey is with us, who's just on CNN, questioning the intelligence of some of the

00:29:08.980 anchors there.

00:29:10.060 I don't know how you could possibly do that, Thomas Massey.

00:29:13.460 Well, I just questioned their preparedness.

00:29:16.400 Now, I never questioned that about you or your staff.

00:29:20.420 And we're the ones you should, really.

00:29:22.240 No, she claimed, she referenced 19 different things I had voted on and claimed she had

00:29:28.280 spent a whopping two minutes studying one of them, and it made her an expert.

00:29:34.420 Okay.

00:29:35.140 We want to talk to you about what's happening overseas with the Houthis.

00:29:40.560 I am really torn on this because I feel as though we are backing in to yet another war.

00:29:49.400 I also think there are people in this administration that want war.

00:29:52.460 I also know that this administration continues to send money over to Iran.

00:29:57.640 So, you know, our literal enemy in this, we're helping fund.

00:30:03.040 So, this isn't serious on anybody's part.

00:30:06.500 However, they are shooting at us, launching missiles at our Navy, and aren't we defending

00:30:15.620 ourselves?

00:30:17.180 How should we look at this?

00:30:19.440 Well, first of all, you should look at it as this is election season.

00:30:23.080 And when you're at war, you know, there's a greater tendency to vote for the commander

00:30:28.000 in chief who's waging the war.

00:30:30.880 And I am worried that he's going to draw us into a war with this.

00:30:34.360 Now, I believe that he has an obligation to come to Congress, and I think he had time to

00:30:39.460 do it.

00:30:39.920 If he had time to organize an international coalition, or at least with Great Britain,

00:30:45.260 to pull this off, he had time to come to us.

00:30:47.720 And, you know, the War Powers Act requires him to do that.

00:30:53.160 It allows him to respond defensively in the case of emergency, but that would be like

00:30:59.700 an imminent attack.

00:31:01.060 It wouldn't be something where you plan, you know, some kind of retaliation for things

00:31:06.520 that have gone on for months.

00:31:08.800 So, I think...

00:31:09.880 Can we talk about the War Powers Act here for a second?

00:31:12.200 Because I believe the War Powers Act is correct in a world where we have missiles. 0.91

00:31:18.260 If somebody's launching a missile, the president does not have time to go to Congress and say,

00:31:22.880 hey, I want to make my case here that in 12 minutes we're all going to be vaporized.

00:31:27.480 However, like you said, it's been 90 days, 90 plus days since this happened.

00:31:33.240 We've watched it happen.

00:31:34.820 They've been fighting and shooting against us, et cetera, et cetera.

00:31:39.300 The president has a responsibility to go in front of the American people and Congress

00:31:48.040 and make his case.

00:31:50.040 And Congress needs to decide.

00:31:53.060 Correct?

00:31:54.600 Absolutely.

00:31:55.040 You are absolutely correct.

00:31:56.460 We have abdicated, though, our authority.

00:31:59.660 We've been involved in Yemen.

00:32:01.400 Here's what I don't see reported in the news.

00:32:03.820 Since about 2015.

00:32:05.900 And in 2018, I teamed up with Ro Khanna and tried to get a War Powers Resolution passed

00:32:13.420 to get us back out of Yemen. 0.98

00:32:16.300 This was in 2018.

00:32:18.140 Paul Ryan did a parliamentary trick.

00:32:21.140 He hid the vote on our War Powers Resolution in the Farm Bill.

00:32:26.480 And then, so people voted for the Farm Bill and put our War Powers Resolution to bed.

00:32:32.540 So we tried again, and he hid it in the Manage Our Wolves Act.

00:32:36.660 If you voted for the Manage Our Wolves Act to come to the floor of the House, you voted

00:32:40.880 against the Ro Khanna Thomas Massey War Powers Resolution, according to the War Powers Act,

00:32:46.760 to get us out of Yemen.

00:32:48.160 Think of this.

00:32:48.660 Our Congress is voting on management of wolves, but not whether or not we go to war.

00:32:57.060 Correct.

00:32:58.140 And then, so a year later, we were able to get it to the floor.

00:33:02.560 We passed it in the House.

00:33:04.400 We followed, you know, I don't even agree completely with the War Powers Act that was

00:33:09.160 passed in the 1970s, especially not the interpretation that people have of it.

00:33:13.840 But we were able to get a resolution passed to get us out of Yemen in 2019.

00:33:18.000 And then it went from the House to the Senate, and they passed it with 53 votes.

00:33:22.960 But Donald Trump vetoed it. 0.92

00:33:25.040 Now, it's within his authority to veto it, but that demonstrated to me how ridiculous

00:33:30.960 the War Powers Act is, because effectively, it takes two-thirds of us to override a president's

00:33:38.440 veto.

00:33:38.720 So what it means is, the War Powers Act, if you believe in it, with 33% of Congress, the

00:33:44.140 president can go to war because it takes two-thirds to stop him. 0.67

00:33:48.140 It's ridiculous. 0.56

00:33:49.000 So what are you hearing up on the Hill about all of this? 0.74

00:33:56.180 Where are we headed, Thomas?

00:33:57.580 I mean, I am worried that we're going to be expanding conflicts in the Middle East, that

00:34:05.420 this is, there's some people up here that are just begging for a war with Iran.

00:34:10.940 And whether it's something that grows out of Gaza, or whether it's something that grows 0.94

00:34:16.000 out of Yemen.

00:34:16.620 And I think we need to take a step back and look at this and say, is that in the best interest

00:34:22.720 of our country, to have a full-blown war with Iran?

00:34:25.680 And I'm worried that this president would like to have it, have something hot going on before

00:34:31.460 the election or during the election.

00:34:33.200 Well, the national intelligence agencies came out today and warned that Hezbollah has assets

00:34:43.160 here in America and that they're concerned that this could mean a direct strike here in

00:34:49.780 the homeland, which I don't think would play well for all of those who had an open border.

00:34:54.880 I mean, this is the big exposure we have at the open border.

00:34:58.940 Not only are we going to economically destroy our country by bringing so many illegal immigrants 1.00

00:35:06.100 into the country so quickly, it's so porous that, you know, Hezbollah can walk across the 1.00

00:35:12.400 border and no doubt they are here.

00:35:16.040 They could activate.

00:35:17.860 I mean, what was it?

00:35:20.420 15 of the 19 hijackers were actually from Saudi Arabia and were here legally for the most

00:35:26.960 part, I think.

00:35:27.680 But now we're looking at a different threat and it only takes 19 to, you know, do something

00:35:36.240 very bad in this country, as we saw on 9-11.

00:35:39.900 Nikki Haley, during the last debate, basically called you an anti-Semite. 1.00

00:35:46.480 Why do you hate the Jews so much? 0.91

00:35:48.720 Oh my gosh. 1.00

00:35:49.780 As Ron DeSantis says, that's cheap garbage. 1.00

00:35:52.740 And as I tweeted, I'm living rent-free in her head. 0.98

00:35:56.080 And trust me, there's lots of empty space in here.

00:36:01.020 She had her understanding of the bills that I've been voting on is one inch deep.

00:36:07.200 Whereas, you know, Ron DeSantis, even though he and I disagree on this issue, he understands

00:36:13.060 where I'm coming from.

00:36:14.300 And he's not astroturf like Nikki Haley is.

00:36:19.100 This is why she stopped taking questions at town halls. 0.99

00:36:22.080 If you go more than one question deep, she doesn't know what she's talking about.

00:36:26.100 But she was attacking me on votes. 1.00

00:36:28.740 For instance, I didn't vote for the $14 billion financial package to Israel.

00:36:34.800 Now, we can have a discussion about that, whether we can afford that, whether we should be doing

00:36:40.580 that or not.

00:36:41.860 But she claims that I'm anti-Semitic or anti-Israel because I'm not voting for foreign aid.

00:36:46.820 But here's the thing.

00:36:47.680 I've never voted for foreign aid to any country.

00:36:50.360 I'm not picking on any country.

00:36:52.860 And then there were some resolutions where we can have legitimate disagreements about

00:36:56.500 whether it infringes on free speech.

00:36:58.340 And then there was a vote that I took against a resolution that says anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.

00:37:07.300 Now, it's true that a lot of anti-Semites are against Israel, just by definition.

00:37:14.200 But it's not true that if you have harsh criticism of Israel, or even if you don't believe in

00:37:20.140 Zionism, that you are also an anti-Semite.

00:37:22.860 Because if that weren't true, there'd be a lot of Jews who are anti-Semites.

00:37:25.760 I know, I was going to say, a lot of the Hasidic Jews here in America despise Israel.

00:37:33.100 Say it's an abomination of a state because it's not a religious state. 0.86

00:37:37.900 So are they anti-Semites, too?

00:37:40.320 I don't think so.

00:37:41.520 Yeah, I don't think so.

00:37:43.160 I don't think Gerald Nadler's anti-Semite is Jewish.

00:37:46.480 He spoke against that resolution on the floor.

00:37:49.340 You know, the sad thing is, we've had 19 votes like that since our new speaker became speaker.

00:37:56.180 And what we should be focusing on is our own spending bills and cutting spending.

00:38:00.120 Instead, we passed these resolutions, which are frankly political gotchas.

00:38:04.760 The Republicans are trying to use that issue to catch the Democrats up in votes and then

00:38:09.740 use it to get them unelected.

00:38:11.200 And I just don't have an appetite for that, when we should be focused on our fiscal issues.

00:38:18.340 Right now in the House, we are about to throw away all the spending caps that were put in

00:38:24.400 place this summer.

00:38:25.640 I was on your show talking about this, taking heat from you. 0.92

00:38:30.100 Because I said, oh, I remember when I was young and naive.

00:38:34.420 Yes.

00:38:34.900 Yes.

00:38:35.220 He said, I think, and I said, you know, maybe I'm getting fooled here.

00:38:40.300 Glenn, they're signing it into law.

00:38:42.840 They did.

00:38:43.380 The White House and the Senate put those caps into law.

00:38:46.820 Yeah.

00:38:47.260 And now they are undoing the law.

00:38:50.940 This is, I mean, we've never got that far.

00:38:53.280 It's kind of loose, Lucy and the football.

00:38:55.860 I mean, my foot contacted the football.

00:38:58.400 I've never got to that point.

00:38:59.740 The problem is they had somebody illegally blocking or something.

00:39:04.820 They are about to, what happened is the Senate and the White House had buyer's remorse.

00:39:10.640 And the military hawks here and the appropriators on the Republican side are forcing Mike Johnson

00:39:18.280 through, I'll call it violence, you know, parliamentary violence.

00:39:22.440 They're just like, well, you know, we'll cause the government to shut down and you'll be blamed

00:39:27.020 for it, Mike, if you don't undo the deal from this summer.

00:39:30.380 Good.

00:39:31.460 You know, honestly, Thomas, you know and I know this government is dismantling America.

00:39:39.320 We'd be better off with the government shut down for a while to be able to put it back

00:39:45.560 on a leash by cutting all of this spending.

00:39:49.020 I mean, good.

00:39:50.900 Good.

00:39:51.340 Shut it down.

00:39:52.000 I agree with you, but there's another option that they agreed to this summer, which is if

00:39:57.000 they would do what Jim Jordan and Warren Davidson and I prescribed and they agreed to, which

00:40:01.980 is a long-term CR, there would never be a threat of a shutdown, but there would be a

00:40:06.640 1% cut on April 30th to every department in the United States of America's government.

00:40:12.400 And there wouldn't be the chance of a shutdown, but that would motivate, I think, people to come

00:40:17.540 to the table and get policies like securing the border without a shutdown.

00:40:22.800 Here's what happens when you have a shutdown.

00:40:24.540 We got, and you know this as well as I, there's at least a dozen members here in the GOP conference

00:40:29.160 who will cross the aisle and sign something with the Democrats to, you know, stiff us on

00:40:34.620 this.

00:40:36.120 It's deplorable, but they'll do it.

00:40:38.100 And some of them have already announced their retirement, so they don't care.

00:40:42.360 So bad.

00:40:43.920 So bad.

00:40:44.680 Thank you very much.

00:40:45.880 I appreciate it.

00:40:46.780 Thomas Massey, as always, keep taking them on.

00:40:50.460 Thanks.

00:40:51.580 Thank you, brother.

00:40:52.160 Bye.

00:40:52.420 You bet.

00:40:52.740 Bye.

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