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00:02:19.700 Well, hello, Stu.

00:02:20.680 How are you?

00:02:21.660 It's been a good week.

00:02:22.880 Fascinating.

00:02:23.380 That's really great to hear.

00:02:24.740 And you tell such amazing stories.

00:02:27.020 Thank you.

00:02:27.360 Thank you for sharing that.

00:02:28.220 I appreciate you asking.

00:02:31.500 Well, it was sincere.

00:02:32.660 I hope you know that.

00:02:33.260 I know.

00:02:33.880 Let me go to Trump announcing his 10-step plan to dismantle the deep state.

00:02:41.200 Listen to this.

00:02:42.260 If you haven't heard it, you're going to love this.

00:02:46.440 Here's my plan to dismantle the deep state and reclaim our democracy from Washington corruption.

00:02:52.340 Once and for all.

00:02:53.900 And corruption it is.

00:02:55.420 First, I will immediately reissue my 2020 executive order restoring the president's authority to remove

00:03:02.980 rogue bureaucrats, and I will wield that power very aggressively. 0.97

00:03:07.360 Second, we will clean out all of the corrupt actors in our national security and intelligence apparatus,

00:03:14.240 and there are plenty of them.

00:03:15.500 The departments and agencies that have been weaponized will be completely overhauled so

00:03:22.620 that faceless bureaucrats will never again be able to target and persecute conservatives,

00:03:28.460 Christians, or the left's political enemies, which they're doing now at a level that nobody 0.97

00:03:32.900 can believe even possible.

00:03:34.920 Third, we will totally reform FISA courts, which are so corrupt that the judges seemingly

00:03:41.880 do not care when they are lied to in warrant applications.

00:03:46.920 So many judges have seen so many applications that they know were wrong, or at least they

00:03:52.740 must have known.

00:03:53.920 They do nothing about it.

00:03:55.500 They're lied to.

00:03:56.340 Fourth, to expose the hoaxes and abuses of power that have been tearing our country apart,

00:04:03.220 we will establish a Truth and Reconciliation Commission to declassify and publish all documents

00:04:10.240 on deep state spying, censorship, and corruption.

00:04:13.620 And there are plenty of them.

00:04:15.480 Fifth, we will launch a major crackdown on government leakers who collude with the fake news to deliberately

00:04:22.060 weave false narratives and to subvert our government and our democracy.

00:04:28.220 When possible, we will press criminal charges.

00:04:32.220 Sixth, we will make every inspector general's office independent and physically separated from

00:04:38.320 the departments they oversee so they do not become the protectors of the deep state.

00:04:44.620 Seventh, I will ask Congress to establish an independent auditing system to continually monitor

00:04:51.440 our intelligence agencies to ensure they are not spying on our citizens or running disinformation

00:04:58.700 campaigns against the American people, or that they are not spying on someone's campaign

00:05:05.140 like they spied on my campaign.

00:05:08.000 Eighth, we will continue the effort launched by the Trump administration to move parts of

00:05:14.400 the sprawling federal bureaucracy to new locations outside the Washington swamp.

00:05:19.940 Just as I moved the Bureau of Land Management to Colorado, as many as 100,000 government positions

00:05:28.300 could be moved out, and I mean immediately, of Washington to places filled with patriots who

00:05:35.520 love America, and they really do love America.

00:05:38.840 Ninth, I will work to ban federal bureaucrats from taking jobs at the companies they deal with 0.96

00:05:44.500 and that they regulate.

00:05:46.220 So they deal with these companies, and they regulate these companies, and then they want

00:05:50.120 to take jobs from these companies.

00:05:51.660 It doesn't work that way.

00:05:53.080 Such a public display cannot go on, and it's taking place all the time, like with Big Pharma.

00:06:01.380 Finally, I will push a constitutional amendment to oppose term limits on members of Congress.

00:06:06.780 This is how I will shatter the deep state and restore government that is controlled by the

00:06:14.000 people and for the people.

00:06:15.980 Thank you very much.

00:06:17.840 I just is...

00:06:19.940 Now, tell me, what is possibly objectionable about that?

00:06:27.720 Everybody wants term limits, and he's going for a constitutional amendment.

00:06:31.700 Uh, everybody wants it except for the people in Congress.

00:06:35.760 Uh, he wants to, uh, ban the bureaucrats from going into the businesses that they regulate

00:06:44.240 after they leave government.

00:06:45.980 That's absolutely fantastic.

00:06:48.120 That stops all of this graft and all of this corruption.

00:06:52.780 But, uh, Democrats have been asking for that forever.

00:06:55.760 Moving government, breaking it up, and moving it to, uh, different parts of the country,

00:07:01.060 I think that's smart just for Homeland Security.

00:07:04.340 I just hope they don't poison the places where they're moving them to.

00:07:08.900 Um, independent monitoring of the intelligence agency, so they're not spying on Americans.

00:07:16.120 How could you possibly, as a Democrat, how could you possibly be against that?

00:07:20.620 They're not spying on us, and there's no disinformation campaigns, which we know happen.

00:07:26.700 The, uh, inspector general's office of each, uh, thing that they monitor,

00:07:32.260 being independent from those, um, uh, from those institutions.

00:07:40.440 So if I'm monitoring, and I'm the inspector general of the Pentagon,

00:07:44.380 I'm not part of the Pentagon, so I can't be shut down.

00:07:47.840 That is fantastic.

00:07:49.480 How could you possibly be against that?

00:07:52.200 This one is a little, um, we have to look at the wording, uh, government leakers,

00:07:58.280 uh, he will fire any government leakers and prosecute where possible 0.87

00:08:03.500 if they are trying to subvert the government or working in collusion, uh, to, uh,

00:08:11.880 give false narratives to the press.

00:08:14.300 Okay, I, I think I'm for that one, but I want to make sure that leakers, uh, 0.91

00:08:18.980 and whistleblowers are protected.

00:08:21.620 The FISA courts.

00:08:23.820 Stu, how could you possibly be against that if you're a Democrat?

00:08:27.940 Um, and the Justice Department.

00:08:30.420 Clean up the Justice Department.

00:08:33.560 Uh, what was the other one?

00:08:34.900 Uh, oh, going for the, uh, truth and reconciliation.

00:08:39.220 That's a document dump.

00:08:41.980 Who's against document dumps?

00:08:44.020 I'd like to know exactly what, what the truth is on all of these things.

00:08:47.920 I want to know.

00:08:49.260 I think this is uniting.

00:08:52.120 Now, the press will make this into, you know, horrible dictatorial stuff, but it's not.

00:08:58.300 If, if the Biden administration would have done this, I would have been for all of these.

00:09:05.480 Now, what is the problem with them, Stu?

00:09:08.660 Yeah, I mean, I think if you go through all those proposals, probably the worst thing you

00:09:12.980 can say about them is that several of them are sort of just not particularly interesting

00:09:20.300 to the average person.

00:09:21.680 Like, I think a lot of people don't even know what a FISA court is, right?

00:09:24.440 Like, when you're talking about it from a, from that perspective, they might be good policies,

00:09:28.660 but they're not going to be exciting.

00:09:29.700 And they range from that to the most popular proposals in our public discourse.

00:09:36.920 I mean, you're talking about things like term limits, which, you know, you're talking about

00:09:40.520 80% popularity around a proposal like that.

00:09:45.080 And the only thing stopping it is Congress.

00:09:47.840 They've been, you know, doing this forever because they're protecting their own gigs.

00:09:52.840 Now, I will say I'm going to be very, very entertained when part of this proposal, he floats to

00:09:59.520 taunt the media a third presidential term.

00:10:02.200 That's going to be fun.

00:10:03.120 And I can't wait till he does it because you know he's going to do it.

00:10:06.680 Well, if senators get 12 years, why wouldn't a president, your favorite president, why wouldn't

00:10:11.360 he get 12 years?

00:10:12.940 I want him to, I want him to float the idea of packing the court.

00:10:19.240 I want him to do that just so badly because everybody would be like, that's, you can't do

00:10:24.580 it. 0.99

00:10:24.780 That's ridiculous. 0.99

00:10:25.640 He's going to control the court forever that way. 0.97

00:10:28.220 That's our constitution.

00:10:29.520 You know, I'd love him just to float it for about a week and then go, huh, thank you

00:10:34.540 for all of those soundbites.

00:10:36.220 We will use them against you if you ever get in power and try to pack the court because

00:10:42.460 you clearly know why this is wrong.

00:10:45.180 Yeah, honestly, like I would, I love that approach.

00:10:49.220 I think he comes out, he says, I'm going to start studying those proposals made by the

00:10:54.760 left during the last couple of years.

00:10:57.020 Some of them sound interesting.

00:10:58.040 Let them all get excited and then come back, pull the rug out from under it and propose

00:11:03.560 something that locks it at nine forever.

00:11:06.540 Seriously. 0.93

00:11:07.200 I mean, like this is ridiculous.

00:11:09.180 Let's just set it at nine and then be done with it.

00:11:12.720 This shouldn't be something that is even talked about.

00:11:15.320 It is a ridiculous manipulation of power. 0.92

00:11:18.480 We've seen the left try to do it a hundred times. 0.98

00:11:20.960 Let's get rid of that one forever.

00:11:22.960 If you're going to have and go through a constitutional amendment process, check that one in there too.

00:11:26.360 So some friends of mine sent me a text message between two friends that just came in and I really, this is mental illness. 0.84

00:11:40.920 It really is mental illness.

00:11:42.800 Listen to, listen to this exchange via text.

00:11:46.440 Okay.

00:11:46.920 Did you all vote Republican?

00:11:52.020 Just trying to figure out who to trust.

00:11:54.800 We voted both ways.

00:11:56.340 We're libertarians.

00:11:57.680 Okay.

00:11:57.880 This is the response.

00:11:58.800 We voted both ways.

00:12:00.320 We're libertarians.

00:12:01.080 Sorry if you feel our choices in this election is needed to end a friendship.

00:12:05.440 I feel like we've trusted one another throughout the years.

00:12:07.840 Unfortunately, no one is perfect in either way that you choose.

00:12:12.180 I hope you can still feel comfortable reaching out to us if you ever need anything and still be friends.

00:12:17.940 Now, this is a long-term friendship.

00:12:22.660 Men are hurting us.

00:12:24.800 They're laughing gleefully at our pain.

00:12:27.020 If you voted Republican, that's all because you're okay with that.

00:12:31.340 Men are hurting us.

00:12:34.420 Could you be more specific?

00:12:37.240 Men are hurting us.

00:12:39.580 Can you also show me where the men are that are laughing in your face?

00:12:44.700 They're holding up signs saying women are property. 0.99

00:12:49.020 Could you help me out with that one?

00:12:51.080 Could you show me a picture of those signs?

00:12:53.780 That one, I did see a real estate listing that did list women as property. 1.00

00:12:58.520 So that is happening.

00:12:59.560 That one I can confirm, but it's mostly online.

00:13:01.400 It's at MLS.

00:13:02.280 Yeah.

00:13:02.520 Okay.

00:13:03.160 Okay.

00:13:03.560 Are your daughter's property?

00:13:07.180 Well, they are now.

00:13:08.800 Huh?

00:13:09.620 What?

00:13:10.560 Now, this person responds in a way I wouldn't have.

00:13:13.320 I would have saved this one for later because I had too many questions on what she just said.

00:13:17.660 But she said, are you all going to sell the Tesla now?

00:13:20.720 Isn't that supporting Musk and the Republican Party?

00:13:23.400 Then the friend responded, I saw your Ted Cruz sign. 0.99

00:13:28.020 He wants my child dead. 0.55

00:13:31.100 That was a weird part of his campaign. 1.00

00:13:33.920 The whole, I want your child dead, vote for me instead of all red chant. 1.00

00:13:38.280 Right. 0.99

00:13:39.040 But it worked.

00:13:40.440 He won.

00:13:41.940 And then she responded to the Tesla thing.

00:13:43.760 No, we bought it used.

00:13:45.000 And there's no way to escape capitalism right now.

00:13:47.480 But you chose this.

00:13:48.980 You chose to make women property. 1.00

00:13:52.220 Well, I'm sorry that you feel like you have to unfriend us.

00:13:56.480 There were good things on both sides.

00:13:58.700 You hate us.

00:13:59.680 Then if you hate us, then you really never knew us.

00:14:03.040 I hope you get everything you voted for.

00:14:05.840 I hope it all affects you personally.

00:14:07.960 Me too, actually.

00:14:09.000 I hope it affects you too because it'll be good.

00:14:11.960 You hate me and my child if you voted for people who openly called for our deaths. 0.57

00:14:17.260 Who called for your deaths? 0.98

00:14:21.700 Please give me.

00:14:22.680 Before you break up a long-term friendship,

00:14:25.660 can you please just give me the original source of people calling for your deaths?

00:14:33.380 Now, I'm sure there are people online that have said really crazy things

00:14:37.420 because, honestly, let's go up about four paragraphs in what you just sent.

00:14:41.800 You say really crazy things too.

00:14:43.880 So let's just deal with who said that,

00:14:47.160 when it was said, what the context was,

00:14:49.100 because I've never heard that before.

00:14:51.440 So now, we all know.

00:14:54.980 I already knew, but I hope you were able to see what was really happening 0.99

00:14:58.540 because you're not stupid. 0.99

00:15:00.540 Please forget we exist. 1.00

00:15:02.020 I beg you not to talk to anyone about my son who is disabled.

00:15:06.720 We're first on the chopping block. 0.72

00:15:10.000 Now, apparently, the son is trans and disabled.

00:15:15.300 Well, you know what?

00:15:16.660 I think there are rules at Auschwitz.

00:15:18.680 Yeah, he would be first.

00:15:19.900 Oh, we don't live in Nazi Germany, do we?

00:15:23.600 Please forget we exist and don't turn us in.

00:15:28.040 Uh, wow, you are 100%.

00:15:30.500 I guess we voted wrong.

00:15:33.320 Sarcasm in the face of my pain?

00:15:35.840 What pain?

00:15:37.280 What pain?

00:15:39.540 Your pain is being caused because you believe lies. 1.00

00:15:43.900 If you actually think that Donald Trump wants your trans handicapped child dead, 0.99

00:15:51.640 you have no idea. 0.99

00:15:53.700 You are so far out of reality.

00:15:58.320 I hope you have a lovely day.

00:16:00.160 God bless you and your family.

00:16:01.840 Typical.

00:16:03.040 I'm not kidding.

00:16:04.100 Please don't hurt us.

00:16:05.460 We don't exist.

00:16:06.800 You don't know us.

00:16:07.820 You're so compassionate with your name calling.

00:16:11.000 And if you believe that, stop texting us.

00:16:13.740 What name did I call you?

00:16:15.240 I will stop, but I didn't call you any names.

00:16:17.840 I did not.

00:16:18.580 I truly hoped that you'd see the light because the cruise sign didn't come back.

00:16:22.940 I thought you would care that women are dying. 1.00

00:16:26.680 Again, give me a fact.

00:16:28.860 Show me an original source.

00:16:30.440 Where are women dying? 1.00

00:16:32.100 We are now literally property of men.

00:16:34.420 You say literally.

00:16:35.740 Show me the source on that.

00:16:37.400 My mistake. 1.00

00:16:38.580 You said we were stupid for who we voted for. 1.00

00:16:40.760 No, I said you were not stupid, which means you did it with purpose. 1.00

00:16:44.380 Oh, so I'm not stupid. 1.00

00:16:47.920 I'm just evil, voting knowingly for your child to be killed. 1.00

00:16:52.740 May your daughters bleed out in the hospital parking lot now. 1.00

00:16:56.360 I hope you have the good sense to be lesbians or childish cat ladies. 1.00

00:17:03.520 Again, as I said, you're 100% right. 0.98

00:17:06.060 Maybe four more years we can be friends.

00:17:08.560 LOL.

00:17:09.800 Women are property now. 1.00

00:17:12.380 What the hell is wrong with people? 0.98

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00:18:10.780 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:18:13.240 All right, first, the first person we have to thank or the first thing that we have to thank is God.

00:18:22.160 God worked miracles in this country this last week.

00:18:26.820 And we would be remiss and really poor children if we didn't recognize his hand in this election.

00:18:35.540 It is incredible what has happened.

00:18:38.700 I told you before, I can find a million ways this thing flies apart, but there's only one way we hold it together.

00:18:47.140 And that's God.

00:18:48.580 And I think we've all witnessed that.

00:18:51.680 Now, on the human level, one of the guys who I don't think has gotten enough credit yet but will get all the credit he deserves is Charlie Kirk.

00:19:02.340 Charlie started something called Turning Point USA.

00:19:04.860 I know you know of it.

00:19:06.880 He is the host and founder of – I'm sorry, the founder and CEO of Turning Point, also the host of the Charlie Kirk show.

00:19:13.260 So – but this guy, I don't know what we would have done without you, Charlie.

00:19:19.840 I mean, you really turned the vote out.

00:19:22.160 Thank you.

00:19:23.740 Well, Glenn, first of all, you said it correctly.

00:19:26.280 Glory be to God.

00:19:27.040 We were one millimeter, a couple millimeters away from the entire country going into Bedlam.

00:19:32.780 You see that so perfectly said.

00:19:36.360 Throughout the entire campaign, I had this spirit of paranoia like, are we really going to do this?

00:19:42.120 Are they going to come up with another sneak attack?

00:19:44.040 Are they going to do another COVID?

00:19:45.320 Are they going to – and at every corner and every turn.

00:19:48.680 And so glory be to God.

00:19:50.280 God is not done with this land, Glenn.

00:19:52.720 And God is not done.

00:19:53.900 And second, I wish I could take credit for all this, but is the American people.

00:19:59.440 And I know it sounds cliche.

00:20:00.740 I know it sounds generic.

00:20:01.720 But the American people withstood the most intense propaganda political hurricane of American history.

00:20:10.040 There's never been anything like it.

00:20:11.460 It was worse than 2020.

00:20:13.000 It was worse than 2016, calling us Nazis and fascists and saying that Donald Trump was going to put people in camps and all that.

00:20:22.260 And the American people weighed their options despite Kamala Harris outspending Trump three or four times to one and making the right choice.

00:20:28.920 But look, I just – we played a small role, and we did it in two ways.

00:20:32.640 We said on this election, we want to try to lose by less with younger voters, and then we are going to create the most sophisticated, low-propensity, get-out-the-vote turnout machine in modern political history for the right.

00:20:45.700 And here was our theory of the case.

00:20:48.540 First, on the get-out-the-vote, which is that we believed that there were millions of people that were Trump supporters that were not Trump voters.

00:20:57.700 The people that would say, yay, Trump, and they would be with them, but they weren't putting a ballot in a box.

00:21:03.360 They weren't casting a vote.

00:21:04.580 And we tested the theory of the case when I started to go to Trump rallies, and I would ask people – and I'd take a lot of selfies.

00:21:12.540 People are super nice, and they love the country.

00:21:14.620 And one out of 30 people, I'd say, hey, are you registered to vote?

00:21:17.600 And they'd say, oh, yeah, I think so, yeah.

00:21:19.520 And I'd get this kind of half answer.

00:21:22.740 And so I went back to my team.

00:21:24.840 I said, guys, I think there's a lot more in this reservoir than we realize.

00:21:29.400 And so we compared it with the data, with the Trump campaign, which we were allowed to do thanks to a FEC ruling back in the spring.

00:21:36.520 And we said, guys, let's beat the left at their own game.

00:21:39.680 Let's engage in early voting, even though it's a flawed system, in a way that has never been done before,

00:21:45.200 because it gives us actually more days to get low-likely voters to go vote.

00:21:49.440 If you have 30 days to do it, you can then get someone who is not as easy to persuade to vote,

00:21:54.760 because then you can get five or six touches on them.

00:21:56.620 So we hired well over 1,000 full-time people.

00:21:59.860 It's the greatest ground force that's ever done.

00:22:02.080 We raised tens of millions of dollars, praise God, from our donors.

00:22:05.780 And we pitched them on this saying, hey, the road to the White House is going to be going through these states.

00:22:09.700 We know that.

00:22:10.920 We're going to need to first register a ton of voters, build relationships in communities,

00:22:14.940 and then drive a turnout machine over a 30-day period to get Donald Trump across the finish line.

00:22:22.120 And the states that we primarily focused on was Arizona, Wisconsin.

00:22:25.320 We had some work, of course, in Pennsylvania, in Georgia, but really Arizona, Wisconsin.

00:22:30.800 And in Wisconsin, I can tell you that if it wasn't for our effort, Donald Trump would have fallen short.

00:22:35.720 We chased in excess of over 70,000 low-propensity voters in Wisconsin.

00:22:39.660 Donald Trump won by 28,000 votes.

00:22:42.660 Here in Arizona, as we are speaking, we still have 850,000 votes left to count.

00:22:48.000 We like to take at least 90 days to count our ballots here.

00:22:50.920 It's a joke.

00:22:52.660 And Carrie Lake is only down 44,000 votes. 0.97

00:22:55.320 It's really something else.

00:22:56.540 I know it is.

00:22:57.160 I know it is.

00:22:58.120 By St. Patrick's Day, we'll find out who won the Senate race.

00:23:01.060 But Carrie Lake is down 44,000 votes here in Arizona. 1.00

00:23:05.100 And she might fall 10,000 votes short or win by 10,000 votes.

00:23:09.400 But thanks to our effort and the team, we closed an eight-point polling gap for Carrie Lake. 0.99

00:23:16.340 And so, look, basically what we did is we took this movement that Donald Trump created, that Donald Trump led, and we added machinery to the movement.

00:23:24.440 And we were able to successfully turn Trump supporters into Trump voters.

00:23:28.880 You know, Charlie, I've been obviously looking at this forever, and we've never had a GOP that could get out of its own way.

00:23:40.080 We've never had one that was competent.

00:23:42.680 We never had a plan other than, hey, we're just better. 0.99

00:23:46.340 And we lost it every time because we were either stupid or we just couldn't get out of our own way and get people to the polls. 0.92

00:23:55.660 This time around, I felt real confidence that the GOP had these issues covered at the polling places, that it was going to be secure, that if it wasn't, they had the attorneys and they had everybody else out there, just like the Democrats do. 0.98

00:24:12.940 And we were going to catch the bad guys if the bad guys showed up.

00:24:17.520 So I had that confidence, and I also had confidence because of what you were doing, that we were going after the low-propensity voter.

00:24:29.240 You know, I've said for years, hey, somebody should get a bus like they do and put people on a bus and take them to the polls.

00:24:39.080 Somebody should do this.

00:24:40.780 I know you did.

00:24:41.660 I know you did.

00:24:43.280 And that made all the difference in the world.

00:24:45.980 Well, thank you, Glenn.

00:24:47.140 And let me say one thing, which is that, again, our theory of the case was that, okay, the RNC was going to limit some of the shenanigans, which, by the way, we didn't completely eliminate.

00:24:55.900 Without that, we would have Senator Mike Rogers and Senator Hovde in Wisconsin.

00:24:59.820 But one of the ways you offset the shenanigans and the tomfoolery is you outnumber them.

00:25:04.980 And so you have so many ballots in the volume of the system that their midnight drops in Milwaukee are just not going to be sufficient.

00:25:12.080 And it turns out that that was a correct way of looking at it.

00:25:15.520 And I want to say one other thing, though, is that this was very, very difficult work.

00:25:19.940 And our team deserves enormous credit, not just the full-time staff.

00:25:25.420 You'll love this, Glenn.

00:25:26.200 We did a thing called Commit 100, where we said, hey, if you're across the country and you're tired of just listening to talk radio and watching TV and seeing your country fall apart, if you will be able to fly yourself to Arizona, we'll put you up in a hotel room for a week or two.

00:25:40.900 And we will give you the mobile technology to go chase ballots.

00:25:44.920 We had over 2,000 people from across the country that were working neighborhoods in Arizona to go chase ballots.

00:25:52.180 2,000 volunteers from across the country on top of, in Arizona, are 600 full-time people on the ground.

00:25:59.260 So we blanketed the state.

00:26:01.540 And Arizona, again, it's my passion, is the best performing of the seven battleground states, and we're still counting votes.

00:26:07.620 It's the greatest swing of any battleground state from 2020, and it should give your audience a lot of renewed confidence, is that we are catching up to how the left has gamified our elections.

00:26:18.040 They turned it into a game.

00:26:19.400 Who can get the most amount of pieces of paper in the box?

00:26:21.780 And we were still dealing in an antiquated mindset where we believe that elections were just about worldview and values and issues back in, like, 2004.

00:26:32.900 The left, they changed all the rules, and they made them permanent during COVID.

00:26:36.220 And between 2022, especially in 2024, we learned the rules, we caught up, and then we beat them at their own game.

00:26:44.640 And that is what is so promising and encouraging, that we are able to add this machinery to a once-in-a-generation movement.

00:26:53.360 And I will add one other thing, is that some people are saying that it was a landslide.

00:26:56.980 It was.

00:26:58.040 However, Glenn, we're talking about Donald Trump.

00:27:00.700 The final canvases will come out.

00:27:02.500 He won Wisconsin by, you know, 30,000 votes.

00:27:05.060 Pennsylvania, one point.

00:27:07.640 Michigan, point and a half.

00:27:09.560 Without the turnout operation, without the voter integrity operation from the Trump campaign and the RNC, you could make an argument.

00:27:17.260 And also, the second layer is that we did 25 points better with younger voters.

00:27:22.300 We won the youth vote in Michigan.

00:27:24.300 We almost won the youth vote in Wisconsin.

00:27:26.180 What do you attribute that to, other than, you know, your work and the work of others?

00:27:32.120 And do you, how much do you put into Elon Musk, RFK, Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn?

00:27:40.180 Yeah.

00:27:41.400 Yeah.

00:27:42.040 First of all, Elon Musk is an American hero.

00:27:44.360 And that guy is the best of America who decided to just put everything on the line for his country.

00:27:51.860 And I can't say enough good stuff about him.

00:27:54.020 And by the way, President Trump deserves so much credit for doing these long-form podcasts.

00:27:58.760 This was the year.

00:28:00.120 This was the election of the podcast.

00:28:02.420 And Democrats were unable.

00:28:03.420 This is the end of the mainstream.

00:28:04.620 I said this the week before he went on Joe Rogan.

00:28:07.800 I said, you watch.

00:28:09.000 Joe Rogan, he'll go on Joe Rogan, 100 million people, and it will be the end of the mainstream media.

00:28:15.140 This will show everybody for 2028.

00:28:19.800 There's no reason to do a debate on ABC.

00:28:22.300 There's no reason to go do an interview with CBS.

00:28:24.700 Why?

00:28:25.140 Why would you do that?

00:28:27.020 Everything changed this time.

00:28:30.240 That's exactly right.

00:28:31.540 And I attribute a lot to that.

00:28:34.080 And in addition, Donald Trump was able to sit for three hours with no notes and go deep on the issues and have a total command of the subjects.

00:28:45.440 And people, here is the new standard, though, and the Democrats have to know this.

00:28:49.500 You will never win another presidential election if you nominate a candidate who is unable to do long-form podcasting.

00:28:56.480 People won't trust you, period.

00:28:58.800 End of story.

00:28:59.240 And if you do not have a candidate that can go deep and that can think on their feet and have memory recall and be personal and charming and affable, the American people reject that.

00:29:09.520 Long gone are the days of seven-minute, 60-minute interviews, right?

00:29:13.080 Or, you know, 10-minute meet the press where you have five questions and they're prepared and that's it.

00:29:19.240 Now you have to earn the vote because people are going to listen to you for three hours and see your tone and your inflection and whether you mean it.

00:29:26.620 And so Donald Trump excelled in that.

00:29:29.500 And Joe Rogan deserves such credit for having the platform.

00:29:32.480 And to his credit as well, he was very fair.

00:29:35.300 He wanted to broker a fair, you know, deal where Kamala was invited and Donald Trump.

00:29:40.900 The other thing I will say, though, and I think you'll appreciate this, Glenn, with younger voters,

00:29:44.140 is that there was pent-up rebellion energy amongst young Gen Z voters, especially men, for how they were treated during COVID.

00:29:53.480 During COVID, they had their proms canceled, their graduation, summer class, a lot of their friends committed suicide.

00:29:59.940 They're part of this generation that was hyper-propagandized by the left-wing woke stuff during the summer of Floyd.

00:30:06.420 And they realized that it was lies and that it was misrepresentations.

00:30:11.400 And then they get their news from podcasting.

00:30:14.660 And podcasting kept on talking about how great Donald Trump was and how awful Kamala was because that was the right framing. 0.76

00:30:21.140 And the generation started to tilt right.

00:30:23.980 And what was so remarkable is that Democrats, they didn't see this coming.

00:30:28.420 They were so confident.

00:30:30.060 They were so cocky that younger voters were going to continue to support them.

00:30:34.180 And, again, you could make the argument, if it wasn't for the mass movement of younger voters in some of these states,

00:30:40.460 Donald Trump might not have won.

00:30:42.060 And, again, the Sun Belt was a separate story.

00:30:43.800 We did very well in the Sun Belt, four or five-point margins.

00:30:46.040 But the Rust Belt was one-and-a-half, one-point margins.

00:30:48.880 We're coming up 30,000 votes here.

00:30:50.760 So all these things add up in a very significant way.

00:30:54.740 And it also should give your audience such hope.

00:30:57.140 There's almost no documented case of a generation that becomes more liberal as they get older.

00:31:03.360 So the fact that this generation is the most conservative voting generation since 1988,

00:31:09.040 that means that the future is only going to get redder.

00:31:12.020 It's only going to become more conservative as they own property and get married and have children.

00:31:17.000 So our starting point is the best starting point for our political movement since Ronald Reagan.

00:31:22.640 You're streaming the best of Glenn Beck.

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00:31:30.860 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:31:32.520 We're glad you're here.

00:31:33.720 So it's very exciting.

00:31:35.660 I'm just writing my dear Santa Trump list.

00:31:39.120 Take care of the border.

00:31:40.640 Justice reform.

00:31:42.040 Elon cuts.

00:31:43.500 Maha.

00:31:44.640 Tax cuts.

00:31:45.420 I'll take it 15% corporate, but can we start with zero with tariffs?

00:31:50.620 Deep cuts in regulations.

00:31:52.740 Department of Ed, close it down.

00:31:55.020 Pentagon.

00:31:56.760 Stop the madness.

00:31:58.680 Yes.

00:31:59.500 That's all I've got so far, but it's going to be a long list.

00:32:03.340 I'm going to send to Santa Trump.

00:32:05.520 If you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.

00:32:07.800 One of the things I know he's going to do is probably give a great gift to anybody who has Bitcoin

00:32:20.060 or anybody who's in the Bitcoin industry because he has said he is against the Fed coin and he in his administration will stop that from ever becoming a reality.

00:32:30.660 I hope he can pull that one off.

00:32:33.300 But gold is up still.

00:32:36.180 It's down, what, $30 from Election Day, but it's still doing well.

00:32:42.040 I think $2,700 was just coming off of an all-time high.

00:32:46.320 Yesterday, all-time high for Bitcoin.

00:32:49.120 That's come down just a little bit, but the economy could roar.

00:32:54.440 And we have Carol Roth with us now.

00:32:56.560 Hi, Carol.

00:32:57.020 Hi, Glenn.

00:32:58.920 We promised people that we would get together and have something good to talk about at some point in time.

00:33:04.520 So we've manifested this discussion and we have optimism.

00:33:09.020 And I think that's actually my most exciting point is the optimism.

00:33:13.540 It could be four and a half years since we've had real optimism in this country from the time of the COVID mess through the Biden-Harris administration.

00:33:23.600 And sentiment is such a self-fulfilling prophecy, particularly for the economy, but in all aspects of life.

00:33:31.320 So the fact that we have this huge sense of relief is lifted off our shoulders, not to say that there's an easy road ahead,

00:33:37.660 but just to have the optimism that, yes, we can go out and do this.

00:33:42.200 It's such a blessed, blessed day and week.

00:33:46.440 Amen on that.

00:33:48.480 So the stock market, you sent me something, oh, maybe 6 o'clock on Tuesday night, and you said, Glenn, stock market is up 200 points.

00:33:59.600 That bodes well for Trump.

00:34:02.320 And then it just kept going up.

00:34:04.360 The, you know, after hours stock market just kept going up all throughout the night.

00:34:09.160 And it's doing well.

00:34:10.620 They didn't – usually they will bake in what they think is coming.

00:34:15.480 They really thought a Kamala administration was coming, didn't they?

00:34:19.800 No, they actually had baked in a Trump win.

00:34:23.680 So that's why this was so staggering.

00:34:25.220 I think what they didn't have baked in is what a resounding mandate that he would have.

00:34:30.160 The fact that he would have the Senate, the fact that he'd win the popular vote.

00:34:34.460 You know, obviously we're still waiting, but hopefully the House.

00:34:36.620 The fact that this was the country saying, we want this mandate.

00:34:40.940 And CNBC said this morning that we are on track for the best week in the stock market in a year.

00:34:48.520 And what is most exciting about what's happened in the market is that it has been a very broad raise.

00:34:54.940 You know, we've been through a time over the past several years where just a handful of tech companies –

00:35:00.140 Yeah, they're the ones who have been lifting the markets.

00:35:01.880 The Russell 2000, which is the smaller cap publicly traded companies, they were up 5% the day after the election.

00:35:11.340 5% in one day, which means small companies and medium-sized companies think that they're going to get access to capital and have the optimism to grow their business.

00:35:20.940 And we know we need that broad-based growth, not just a handful of companies.

00:35:25.160 So that was really one of my big takeaways.

00:35:27.380 I mean, if I were somebody that wanted to start my own business, I would be planning on it right now.

00:35:33.880 I mean, I think America has a chance to have another golden era here.

00:35:43.000 And, you know, maybe they put a stop to it in four years.

00:35:46.160 But if it is – if he can turn this thing around quickly and actually make the kinds of moves that he's talking about,

00:35:55.680 massive fundamental change in just the garbage of the bureaucracy, that could affect us for a very long time.

00:36:07.120 And you could also see, with that kind of success, 12 years, not just him, but then two terms of J.D. Vance.

00:36:16.840 Absolutely.

00:36:17.620 And I think for small businesses in particular, the people who are looking to start them or grow an existing business,

00:36:23.800 there were three key areas that the Biden-Harris administration really tamped down on that sort of optimism from the backbone of the economy.

00:36:32.500 The first one being the ability to work flexibly.

00:36:37.000 You know, the Trump administration had put this very pro-independent contractor, pro-gig work framework in place,

00:36:43.700 and they reversed that in its entirety.

00:36:46.180 So the fact that that goes away is huge.

00:36:48.780 From a regulatory standpoint, $1.7 trillion in regulatory burden is the estimate of the Biden-Harris administration on small business alone.

00:36:58.640 Small businesses don't have time for this, and they don't have the staff or the money for this.

00:37:03.340 So the fact that we know we're going to get more of that regulation cleaned out is absolutely huge.

00:37:10.340 And then the tax uncertainty.

00:37:12.400 You know, the tax cuts and job backs is set to expire next year in large part.

00:37:16.260 And the fact that, you know, we know that Trump is going to be, you know, more open to, you know, extending some of those cuts and maybe even further cutting and hopefully helping small businesses have that certainty.

00:37:29.680 Because you can, again, can't make those investments if you're not sure what's going to happen.

00:37:33.960 Plus, we know we're not going to get the crazy capital gains taxes and the wealth taxes and all those other things that are proposed.

00:37:39.320 So this is really a three-legged stool that will help to unleash growth.

00:37:44.480 And it is, you know, it is such, such a blessing.

00:37:48.340 So let's go over some of the things that he has to do.

00:37:51.580 He's obviously going to fix the border and, you know, deport people.

00:37:56.080 I can't take it anymore.

00:37:57.820 This is the largest deportation in U.S. history.

00:38:01.040 Well, I never, I didn't even know that the largest deportation happened under Bill Clinton with 11 million people deported from our country.

00:38:14.540 11 million.

00:38:16.000 Nobody said boo about that.

00:38:18.160 Our population is bigger.

00:38:19.520 And what is he talking about?

00:38:20.540 Maybe 10 to 15 million?

00:38:23.120 Maybe 20?

00:38:24.380 This is ridiculous that everybody's freaking out when Bill Clinton was the guy who did it the first time.

00:38:31.860 And it didn't hurt anything. 0.52

00:38:34.200 Yeah, I mean, we've had a mass invasion.

00:38:37.420 And while, you know, something like mass deportations may sound like just a security or a social policy, it's obviously very much an economic policy.

00:38:46.160 The estimate from FAIR just in 2023 alone, so forget about this year, was $150 billion that was spent on these illegals.

00:38:56.180 And that doesn't include things like what it does to the demoralization of communities, what it does to keep wages suppressed and people on the sidelines.

00:39:05.920 Back in 2022, the estimate for the number of illegals in the workforce was 8.3 million.

00:39:14.000 You could imagine that that's up at least 50%, if not more.

00:39:18.320 So those are jobs that are having artificially suppressed wages and being taken away and demoralizing, you know, working age individuals, particularly men, from getting into the workforce.

00:39:29.200 So this is a huge financial issue for us.

00:39:33.020 And whatever the cost is to get them out of the country will be worth it because the return on investment for doing that in all facets will far exceed it.

00:39:43.380 It absolutely has to be the first thing that he does.

00:39:46.360 We know that he's also going to, one of the first things he's going to do on the first day is restore our energy policy.

00:39:53.920 Drill, baby, drill, and open up all of that stuff again, thank God.

00:39:57.640 And the ESG, I just got a note from somebody who said, one investment bank is advising ESG fund managers to keep their lawyers very close.

00:40:12.820 Antitrust risk remains high for asset managers in ESG.

00:40:16.540 There haven't been any cases yet, thus there's no legal precedent.

00:40:19.220 Further, legal risks regarding fiduciary duty will stay relevant as states enforce antitrust ESG laws.

00:40:25.840 ESG, do you see the stake going through its heart?

00:40:32.040 I mean, we certainly hope so.

00:40:33.940 The challenge with something like ESG is they always repackage it and it comes back to life as something else.

00:40:39.700 It's kind of like the vampire who shapeshifts into something different.

00:40:43.520 So my guess is that ESG, as known as ESG, goes away and then they come back and they concoct something else and now it has a new name.

00:40:52.000 So it is a bit of a whack-a-mole.

00:40:53.720 We're going to have to continue to be on it.

00:40:55.600 But I absolutely think that there is going to be – there's already a huge push to get away from it, in part because everybody is seeing all these promises.

00:41:04.000 Oh, ESG is going to do all these wonderful things for investments.

00:41:06.880 That hasn't materialized and it really has been this greenwashing.

00:41:10.880 So I feel like it's already on that trend and this could be the final nail in the vampire's coffin until he rises again.

00:41:17.980 So the COP25 is coming up and the last time that he attended or the first time he – I don't even know if he attended.

00:41:28.660 He might have just sent a note, we're out, of the Paris Accords and everything else.

00:41:33.820 That too is going to shake the global community and really put – I mean, it could take it down.

00:41:43.920 If he is really strong on this World Economic Forum garbage that has been shoveled, if he's really strong on that, he could put the stake in its heart.

00:41:56.680 You get the right Government Efficiency Commission and we should be out of everything.

00:42:02.400 We should stop funding the WEF.

00:42:04.580 We should stop funding the UN.

00:42:06.440 We should stop funding all of this insanity and take that money and make that available to pay down our debt and to shrink our deficits.

00:42:15.420 And to stop with these NGOs who are getting massive funding from us and then coming in and trying to ruin our lives.

00:42:23.820 So when you add your list to Trump Santa, please include getting rid of all of the funding to these ridiculous organizations.

00:42:33.080 Well, I think that goes kind of under the border thing because that's where we've really enriched these NGOs here in the country. 0.68

00:42:40.460 I mean, some of them should go to jail.

00:42:42.040 They brought these people in over the border with our tax money.

00:42:46.920 They flew them around the country with our tax money.

00:42:50.020 I mean, I think there should be at least an investigation on that.

00:42:53.200 I'm with you.

00:42:53.980 I second you on that one.

00:42:56.260 When it comes to taxes, what do you think about the idea?

00:43:02.000 You would need to actually do both of them together.

00:43:04.920 I'm not a tariff guy.

00:43:06.880 But if your goal is to rebuild America and to rebuild our manufacturing and bring money back onto shore and jobs back onto shore, if you cut, like he was talking about, no income tax.

00:43:20.700 If you cut the income tax and reimpose stiff tariffs, what happens?

00:43:27.880 So I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings in math here, but the math doesn't really work out because you have to remember 70 percent of our economy is service based.

00:43:38.920 And even if you boost up manufacturing on a big level, the amount that it would take to replace what we have in terms of an income tax, it just today is not mathematically possible.

00:43:51.120 We also have this scenario where we're trying to make sure that the GDP increases and that our revenue stays pretty stable at the same time that we're trying to get rid of the additional spending.

00:44:03.200 And that is going to be a very delicate dance.

00:44:06.820 So I think this is something that needs to be managed strategically.

00:44:10.260 Could you come up with a like a flat tax or a 15 percent tax that just makes the economy roar?

00:44:20.080 I absolutely do think that you can do that.

00:44:22.320 And something that is simple also takes away a lot of the administration and the burden that comes along with that, that makes, you know, just takes away productive time from people.

00:44:34.600 You know, you're spending it on paperwork instead of spending it out in the economy.

00:44:38.140 So I do think there could be something that is streamlined.

00:44:42.200 But again, the tax code is so insane.

00:44:44.940 I imagine that will take some time, but would completely welcome it.

00:44:49.100 And there are so many entrepreneurial people who are around Trump this time around, you know, the Elon Musk's and the Vivek's and whatnot.

00:44:57.200 I think this is the time where there is an opportunity to actually get something like this done.

00:45:02.960 And we need that, Glenn.

00:45:04.080 We need to have the growth because if we don't have the massive growth, we're not going to be able to shrink the government.

00:45:11.400 We're not going to be able to do these things without unleashing massive inflation.

00:45:14.580 So that's the dance that we have.

00:45:16.860 Good.

00:45:17.180 Thank you very much, Carol.

00:45:18.160 I appreciate it.

00:45:20.060 And we might want to have you back on on Monday.

00:45:23.280 I'm trying to get somebody who is for the Trump tariffs and everything.

00:45:27.780 And I want to hear the best of the other side.

00:45:31.240 But it would be great to have you listen to that and then say, OK, not this.

00:45:36.320 Just so we can hear both sides.

00:45:37.860 Thanks.

00:45:38.200 All right.

00:45:38.400 Love to do it.

00:45:38.980 OK.

00:45:39.300 Have a good one.

00:45:39.860 You got it.

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