The Glenn Beck Program - August 05, 2026


Best of the Program | Guests: Charlie LeDuff & Delano Squires | 8⧸5⧸26


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00:00:17.020 Hey, we have a great podcast today.
00:00:21.860 You know, the full-length podcast, we talk about the election that happened,
00:00:25.340 But we also talk about it here a bit in the best of of today's podcast.
00:00:32.060 We start with Charlie the Duff, who is up in Michigan, and he is going after Act Blue.
00:00:38.200 He is looking at where have all these donations come from.
00:00:43.060 And I mean, he's a hard smoking kind of guy and a real journalist.
00:00:49.220 And I love it.
00:00:49.980 A great conversation with him.
00:00:51.460 Then we talked about the water hacks that are happening here on our water systems in
00:00:56.040 America.
00:00:56.580 This one is vital because this one, you don't need a politician to help you, at least a
00:01:01.020 national politician.
00:01:01.900 You'll have to vote for anybody.
00:01:03.460 You are the key to solving this, and this is really disturbing what is happening with
00:01:08.820 our water systems.
00:01:09.800 Somebody is trying to hack into them.
00:01:11.780 There's been seven or 10 of them hacked into in the last 10 or 15 days.
00:01:16.500 It can be fixed, but you are the key to getting it done.
00:01:21.460 Because most of these local communities just think, oh, well, there's no problem with us.
00:01:25.260 And that's where it's happening.
00:01:26.980 You won't believe the details on this.
00:01:28.720 And a fascinating conversation with Delano Squires.
00:01:31.620 He has written a new book, The Vanishing Black Family.
00:01:34.120 This is a must-listen to interview, and I think a must-read book, The Vanishing Black Family, Delano Squires.
00:01:40.340 All of that on today's podcast.
00:01:41.960 And don't forget, there's an extra for Torch subscribers.
00:01:45.180 I did an hour right after the show.
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00:01:49.180 what happens when we cross this threshold and things begin to vanish you'll understand and
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00:02:21.720 charlie how are you i'm great brother how you doing
00:02:29.060 i love it i saw an old clip from edward r murrow the other day i don't know what i was watching
00:02:38.300 and he had that smoke just kind of making rings up off of the table and i went where are those
00:02:43.040 journalists anymore where are those people uh and here you are so welcome do you remember that bit
00:02:48.800 from saturday night live uh martin short when he's on 60 minutes getting grilled he's got the
00:02:54.220 Yeah. I miss those days. Anyway, uh, Charlie, thanks for everything that you do. I really
00:03:04.140 appreciate it. I think you're, you're fabulous and you're exactly what America needs in,
00:03:08.660 in journalism. Uh, tell me about what you are finding, uh, with El Saeed's campaign donors.
00:03:16.280 Okay. Let me preface it by why I'm looking. Okay. Because he fashions himself as the small donor
00:03:23.440 King, the grassroots swell. He's the number one guy on ActBlue in Michigan, small donations
00:03:32.200 from around the country. 80% of his money is from ActBlue and 70, 75% of the actual money
00:03:44.820 is coming from out of state. So I can't go out of state. So I'll look in state. Is this true?
00:03:51.640 because he's the guy that wants to get money out of politics.
00:03:54.520 Okay, you want to get money out of politics.
00:03:56.640 Where's your money coming from?
00:03:58.340 So we just, you know, we go into the FEC database.
00:04:02.220 We download it.
00:04:03.000 We put it on a spreadsheet.
00:04:05.200 We run it.
00:04:06.280 We have AI check it.
00:04:07.560 Then we double check AI.
00:04:08.980 And then we double check each other.
00:04:10.340 So we've got 120 donors, average age about 75 in Michigan.
00:04:17.460 and altogether in the last decade or so 120 people have made three quarters of a million
00:04:25.820 donations okay so we pick one and we go out to the countryside and there's an old lady
00:04:31.800 and her house is burned down she's living in a trailer no internet no computer no running water
00:04:37.460 and i was going to bring her the printout but her donations were 15 000 over five years totaling
00:04:44.220 $150,000. And I told her I would have brought you the printout, but I ran out of paper.
00:04:49.900 Did you, madam, in fact, donate 15,000 times the tune of $150,000 with no house? And she donates
00:04:58.580 and she says, ActBlue is the bank. I go through ActBlue, but nothing, nothing of that size.
00:05:04.840 She was shocked. So to wrap it in a bow for you, you want to keep dark money out of politics.
00:05:11.080 Everybody knows, everybody knows, ActBlue's corrupt.
00:05:15.680 We need to look at it.
00:05:16.700 And I challenged Abdul, listen, man,
00:05:19.060 if you want to get money out of politics,
00:05:20.840 return all the ActBlue money because it's elder abuse.
00:05:24.600 You're stealing, ActBlue, it's almost obvious.
00:05:27.860 I'm just going to say it.
00:05:29.160 You're stealing old people's identity
00:05:30.820 and you're running money from unknown sources
00:05:32.980 through their names and it's got to stop.
00:05:35.860 Again, one more time,
00:05:37.180 abdul out raised haley i'm rounding off 15 million dollars for their you know their general
00:05:46.200 fund their campaign fund she raised 11 so forget special interests in the super PACs he out raised
00:05:53.020 her what's the source of the money let's go come clean explain as i've done chalkboards on act blue
00:06:00.660 years ago and said we've got to look into this is so dirty this whole system is just so corrupt
00:06:08.620 explain for anybody who doesn't know what act blue is what it is and why you can say with such
00:06:14.260 authority it's corrupt it's a clearinghouse you want to donate to blue causes you can go on to
00:06:19.840 act blue it allows you to make a nobody can make a donation in your name and you can't just give
00:06:26.840 money and allow act blue to donate to a specific individual in your name you have to do it you
00:06:34.080 you tell act blue to exercise the trade so to speak act blue allows you to uh re-up every month
00:06:42.160 you can schedule a contribution to somebody every month when it gets closer to elections you can do
00:06:47.100 it every week so when when this lady let's say she gives five dollars to abdul el-sayed why is it
00:06:55.080 the next day she's given five more times and then two days later three more times and then four days
00:07:00.860 later she's from another address the apartment she lived in for a while when her house burned down
00:07:06.880 so i asked her show me how you make a donation on your phone she can't you know it's it's lovely
00:07:12.740 it's she's 88 years old um and she's doing this with the phone like it's a transistor radio like
00:07:19.200 the batteries are bad oh this thing this thing and she couldn't exercise the trade so there
00:07:24.600 it's impossible for her to have sat there what is i forgot the number glenn but three to eight
00:07:32.660 times a day every single day every day of the year for five straight years it's impossible
00:07:38.240 so who's triggering these trades you have her name and i said to her i said uh miss waffle
00:07:47.300 Do you ever remember making a 50 cent donation?
00:07:50.760 And she goes, that's silly.
00:07:52.640 And I said, well, here's the printout.
00:07:55.000 You made a 50 cent donation.
00:07:57.320 She goes, it's impossible to do.
00:07:59.440 So again, ActBlue, money comes in, supposed to be you.
00:08:03.720 They exercise the donation for you.
00:08:06.380 But it's starting to look like they've got your name
00:08:09.680 and mega dollars are coming in
00:08:12.340 and you have no idea that this donation
00:08:15.560 is being made in your name, which is tantamount to identity theft. And it's usually very elderly
00:08:23.320 people. How common is this story in Michigan? I did one six months ago. It was a liberal woman,
00:08:32.980 older black woman, retired, 77. She made $83,000 in donations. And I said, did you make $83,000
00:08:41.580 of donations ma'am and miss miss appling she says what two dollars and 50 cents maybe
00:08:48.600 83 000 i don't know about that it was like just just mind-boggling and now that we're in the
00:08:55.960 general i am going to knock on 120 doors good 16 million dollars 16 million dollars these people
00:09:05.700 donated so when you look at the results yesterday um i mean it is really close what does that tell
00:09:14.580 you the national media is silly you know you're reading more into it that's there oh my god the
00:09:25.240 socialists are taking over did that look like a groundswell to you a one percent difference
00:09:30.320 that's that's no groundswell so if you're really looking in the the general where are the
00:09:36.940 independents and as you know come on glenn you talk about all the time there aren't really
00:09:40.740 independents you you lean one way or the other so where are like somebody that wants to shift over
00:09:47.260 from from maga they're not shifting over uh else had's got the the far left the votes are likely
00:09:54.760 to come from stevens's stevens group so if there's 10 000 15 000 people to be peeled off
00:10:01.460 i think it's coming from the democratic side so uh it's just not it's just not as wild as people
00:10:09.860 want to make it out to be can you give me any indication at all there because because the the
00:10:15.880 um arab and black communities have been at odds for a while i don't even know what the beef is
00:10:23.360 but they're not necessarily cut from the same cloth.
00:10:28.620 They don't march to the same tune.
00:10:31.880 And it appears as though it is some of the black community
00:10:36.920 that has actually swayed some of these elections
00:10:42.080 away from the socialists and away from the Islamists.
00:10:45.760 Do you see that in Michigan?
00:10:48.120 Yeah.
00:10:48.860 First of all, the democratic socialism you're talking about,
00:10:52.540 that's a top-down thing it's look it's white educated people who have archaeology degrees
00:11:00.960 it didn't pan out for them they're looking at it like their birthright they won't say it but
00:11:06.360 they've been jumped over it must it's not them it must be something in the system
00:11:11.220 that's where science steps coming if you go like working class up he doesn't do so well does he
00:11:18.160 and you're absolutely right this is detroit baby this is michigan so in these cnn panels they talk
00:11:26.400 about a black brown coalition that's just the people that went to the ivy league there's no
00:11:31.600 black brown coalition out here blacks don't like arabs arabs don't like blacks say what you will
00:11:39.400 about white people you know it's every there's no black and brown prison gang you know what i'm
00:11:44.320 saying so every group's got its lived history and no i mean they're not going for a fancy pants
00:11:52.020 let me put this one to you syed's only had two jobs two except you know taking away i go to
00:11:58.740 university get big checks to talk he's had two jobs one was the detroit health director and once
00:12:04.600 was the wayne county health director of which detroit is the biggest city he failed miserably
00:12:10.060 you know black people here know him they don't trust him and yeah he got wiped out by him he
00:12:16.320 he absolutely got wiped out so i don't know if they go up go ahead you you say he's a paper doctor
00:12:24.300 he is a paper dog he doesn't treat patients he's not never has he never took um he never took his
00:12:33.260 board exams he's never had a practice didn't have a residency so you know he's it's an he's an egg
00:12:39.180 head doctor and he said i went into it i he figured it was better for him to get into the
00:12:44.760 bureaucracy and fix it from there than to actually serve people so when he was in detroit infant
00:12:52.920 mortality went through the roof uh the uh life expectancy in detroit in detroit wayne county
00:13:02.000 has collapsed it's fallen since covid by two whole years so tell me where this success is
00:13:08.780 he was in charge of Wayne County 60 percent 60 percent of the vote went for Haley and Wayne
00:13:15.300 County yeah that's Wayne County now again Wayne County's about 1.7 million people Detroit's about
00:13:22.000 650,000 so yeah you know he got hammered in Detroit for sure are they going to show up for
00:13:28.300 the general I don't know uh it's great to talk to you Charlie just keep up the good work man
00:13:34.600 keep it up keep it up wait i don't want to go yet
00:13:37.160 i've got other things to do i gotta do and i don't get a smoke
00:13:43.420 go smoke where are you right now thanks man pardon me where are you right now where am i
00:13:49.320 yeah i'm in the mountain west i'm in uh i'm at my uh ranch up in uh in idaho
00:13:54.500 idaho where we just shoot people at hamburger places what you said i'm a hoe
00:14:00.740 all right i'm leaving go smoke check what tobacco is in your cigarette uh we'll talk to you again
00:14:08.620 thanks charlie i appreciate it you're listening to the best of the glenn beck podcast hear more
00:14:13.300 of this interview and others with the full show podcast available wherever you get podcasts
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00:15:25.700 so late sunday into monday somebody we don't know who yet uh has reached into the machinery
00:15:37.800 running more than 30 community water systems in minnesota and then started moving things
00:15:44.800 Not the water, the machinery, the pumps, the valves, the pressure.
00:15:48.820 By Thursday, the FBI and EPA warned that utilities in at least seven states had reported the incident.
00:15:56.800 And that some of the activity degraded water operations.
00:16:00.120 Saturday, Michigan came forward with nine systems in more than one town.
00:16:05.800 Operators walked away from the computers and ran to the plant by hand.
00:16:09.280 Sometimes it takes, you know, 40 minutes to get to these plants.
00:16:11.860 They ran just exactly the way their grandfathers did.
00:16:15.240 Nobody died.
00:16:16.200 Nobody was poisoned.
00:16:17.600 And every official who has spoken says, water is safe.
00:16:20.460 You feel free to drink it.
00:16:21.960 And I'm sure it is.
00:16:22.740 I'm sure it is.
00:16:23.740 Let me remind you, we just found a bomb at a reservoir.
00:16:29.160 It was just under the water line.
00:16:31.180 I don't remember how they found it.
00:16:32.520 I think they were cleaning or something.
00:16:34.180 And they found this.
00:16:35.960 And it was active.
00:16:37.340 But we've never heard anything else, no follow-up on it.
00:16:40.280 Somebody is targeting our water system.
00:16:43.080 Now, who did it?
00:16:44.940 FBI hasn't named anybody yet.
00:16:47.520 Investigators are looking hard at Iran.
00:16:49.940 Also, at whether somebody wanted this to look like Iran, we don't know.
00:16:54.360 President says he doesn't buy it.
00:16:56.180 He blames Minnesota's leadership.
00:16:58.140 Minnesota's governor calls it modern warfare, a live war, an unattributed attack,
00:17:03.580 two politicians arguing the forensics before the forensics are even finished.
00:17:08.420 Here's what is not in dispute.
00:17:11.240 And this is why I'm doing the special today.
00:17:13.420 There are things you must be aware of right now
00:17:16.240 because being aware of them after the fact
00:17:18.800 is not going to help anybody.
00:17:21.360 So the special today is to prepare you
00:17:23.900 for what is coming.
00:17:25.080 And I don't know when,
00:17:26.400 but I think sooner rather than later.
00:17:29.060 And this is another one of those things.
00:17:31.720 In November of 2023,
00:17:33.580 a crew affiliated with Iran's Revolutionary Guard,
00:17:36.840 this is in 2023, took control of a booster station belonging to the water authority
00:17:41.340 of, what is it, Aliquippa, Pennsylvania, 30 miles outside of Pittsburgh. They left a message on the
00:17:49.240 screen. It said, you've been hacked, down with Israel. And they hit 11 American targets that
00:17:54.220 way, six water utilities, a pharmacy, and an aquatic center, also a brewery. That's where
00:18:00.400 people start, especially around Pittsburgh. You hit a brewery? I don't care if you're Islamic or
00:18:05.460 not. You've just pissed the people of Pittsburgh off. Don't mess with them. You hit a Permanente's,
00:18:09.700 you're dead. Anyway, so how did the Islamic Republic of Iran breach our drinking water?
00:18:17.240 You're not going to believe this.
00:18:22.220 By figuring out the passcode was 1111. That is the factory default. Okay. Nobody changed 1111.
00:18:34.200 They never put a new code in.
00:18:36.780 The device sat on the open internet on its published default port, findable by anybody on earth, if you know what you're doing, in about four seconds.
00:18:46.620 And then they put in the code, 1111, and they got in.
00:18:51.000 My question was, why is this online at all?
00:18:53.920 The box is a programmable logic controller.
00:18:56.860 It's called a PLC.
00:18:58.840 It's the thing that turns the pump on, then watches the tank, and then when the number drops, it opens a valve.
00:19:04.660 Light switch, you know, with an opinion.
00:19:07.560 For almost a century, that switch had a wire, and the wire ran to a panel, you know, that was locked up in this building.
00:19:14.000 If something went wrong at 2 o'clock in the morning, phone rang, guy had to get into a truck, drive across town.
00:19:19.880 I'm just looking at my engineer here because he knows exactly what this is like because we have a lot of our systems.
00:19:25.540 We're not online like this.
00:19:26.900 You have to go to the panel to make sure that we're safe.
00:19:31.240 Something goes wrong, you got to get there.
00:19:34.020 So when we connected it, we connected it not out of laziness, just from arithmetic.
00:19:39.740 There are roughly 50,000 community water systems in the country.
00:19:43.900 97% of them are small.
00:19:45.880 Yours might be run by two licensed operators covering 40 square miles.
00:19:50.300 And if the operator can check the tank on his phone instead of driving out in the dark,
00:19:54.260 the town saves a salary that it doesn't have to have, okay?
00:19:58.220 Multiply that by 50,000 towns.
00:20:01.040 That's a lot of money, okay?
00:20:02.660 So we traded a locked door for a login,
00:20:05.620 and then we never changed the password.
00:20:08.620 Now, the part that gets waved away
00:20:10.480 is that there's an assumption that Iran is the backward country
00:20:13.840 with a big mouth.
00:20:14.780 It's not a backward country, you know?
00:20:17.080 They've got sandals and down-with-America slogans.
00:20:20.900 No, no, no.
00:20:21.260 So, Iran designed the Shahid-136.
00:20:26.020 In 2022, they handed the design.
00:20:28.580 It's a great missile.
00:20:29.580 They handed the design over to Russia under a technology deal, and they reported about $100.5 billion coming in.
00:20:37.600 Russians took it, and they didn't just assemble it.
00:20:40.760 They rebuilt their entire supply chain, and that's why 90% of the production now happens on Russian soil.
00:20:48.620 Moscow paid $200,000 for a drone in 2022.
00:20:53.860 Last year, a fraction of that, thousands of them are out every month.
00:20:59.960 Then it came back, came back around.
00:21:02.380 Western intelligence now reporting Russia is shipping upgraded versions back to Iran.
00:21:06.720 Better navigation, better resistance to jamming.
00:21:09.520 Everything Moscow has learned across tens of thousands of combat sorties.
00:21:13.760 So Iran didn't just build a weapon.
00:21:15.700 Iran seeded an industry, and the industry sent home the improvements.
00:21:21.940 Now, there is a small first-person view quadcopter,
00:21:29.700 and there's a video going around that you should see.
00:21:33.760 And it's built from commercial parts that you can just order online.
00:21:37.180 A lot of them are Chinese, not Iranian hardware.
00:21:40.580 But that is the point.
00:21:41.700 The thing that we're now sending out into the sky, especially Iran and Russia and China, costs them what a decent set of golf clubs cost.
00:21:51.460 It's cheap, it's patient, and it's expendable, which beats expensive, sophisticated, and irreplaceable.
00:21:58.260 Tehran understood this before we ever admitted it.
00:22:01.240 These are little quadcopters that will hunt a man, and they are relentless.
00:22:05.140 You've seen them being used over in Ukraine.
00:22:13.400 I want to be really precise on this because precision matters a great deal here.
00:22:18.840 We are not talking about the Iranians.
00:22:20.920 90 million people live there, and a great many of them despise the people who rule over them.
00:22:26.200 And they go out in the streets, and it has cost them their lives.
00:22:29.980 It's the regime.
00:22:31.660 ISIS wanted a caliphate immediately.
00:22:33.900 It burned bright and it burned out.
00:22:36.580 The Islamic Republic has had 47 years.
00:22:39.880 They have a treasury, a foreign minister.
00:22:41.880 They have a drone industry.
00:22:43.500 They have universities.
00:22:44.320 They have networks of proxies and sympathizers all across the way of the West.
00:22:48.980 And they are patient and they are quiet.
00:22:51.120 The patience is the danger, not the shouting.
00:22:54.700 You're going to hear their leadership believes chaos hastens the return of the 12th Amman.
00:22:59.240 Okay?
00:23:00.000 Some reject that outright.
00:23:01.680 But the hardliners, no, they don't reject that.
00:23:06.900 When the government treats the collapse of the existing regime as a feature, it doesn't weigh the risks the way we do.
00:23:16.140 So how does a confident city fall?
00:23:20.280 How do they fall?
00:23:22.460 This story is amazing.
00:23:25.220 539 before Christ, Babylon, right in that area.
00:23:29.340 Babylon was the greatest walled city on earth.
00:23:31.480 In fact, the walls were so thick that the ancient writers said that chariots could turn around on the top of the walls.
00:23:39.360 Cyrus, the Persian, looked at them and understood he could sit outside until his beard turned white.
00:23:47.120 He's not going to get into that city.
00:23:50.020 So he stopped looking at the walls and he decided to go upstream where the Euphrates ran into the city because that was the source of life.
00:24:00.900 That's what they drank, okay?
00:24:03.000 So he dug channels and he turned the river into a marsh
00:24:07.240 and the water inside Babylon dropped
00:24:09.820 to about the height of a man's thigh.
00:24:12.280 The soldiers walked in up the riverbed under the wall
00:24:16.460 through the waterworks.
00:24:18.860 Herodotus says that the city was so large
00:24:21.440 that the people in the center were at a festival dancing
00:24:23.940 and they didn't even know for some time
00:24:25.900 that the city had already fallen,
00:24:27.540 that the walls didn't help them.
00:24:30.900 If you read Daniel in the Bible, the fingers, the writing on the plaster, you know, weighed in the balance and you were found wanting, that's where we get the phrase, the writing is on the wall, okay?
00:24:45.040 It came the same night the river went dry.
00:24:48.040 The wall was never the way in.
00:24:50.580 The utility was the way in.
00:24:53.020 The boring thing nobody guards, nobody thinks to change the passcodes because it's not glamorous, it always works.
00:24:59.060 Who's going to target this?
00:25:00.900 2,500 years later, we're still building walls and we're leaving the river unattended.
00:25:08.680 Now, now the war games. Let me tell you about the war games we have done.
00:25:11.960 This is terrifying.
00:25:13.520 In July of 2002, the Pentagon runs the largest war game in American history.
00:25:19.300 Two years of planning, 13,000 troops, a quarter of a billion dollars.
00:25:24.640 The scenario was confrontation in the Persian Gulf.
00:25:28.200 They hand the enemy team to a retired Marine three-star named Paul Van Riper.
00:25:33.320 Van Riper looks at the surveillance advantage of the United States and decides,
00:25:37.160 I'm not going to fight it.
00:25:38.440 He puts his orders on motorcycle couriers.
00:25:42.660 He signals aircraft with lights like it's 1943.
00:25:46.360 He passes coded messages through loudspeakers on the minarets inside for the call of prayer.
00:25:51.500 And our listening apparatus doesn't hear anything because there's nothing to hear.
00:25:56.460 Then he doesn't wait.
00:25:58.020 He fires everything at once.
00:26:00.420 A salvo of cruise missiles that swamps the radars of the fleet.
00:26:04.720 Behind the missiles come swarms of small boats.
00:26:08.300 16, and this is in 2002, our warships, 16 of our warships in this game sank, including a carrier.
00:26:17.220 Had it been real, 20,000 American sailors would have died before lunch.
00:26:22.640 Do you know what we did with that?
00:26:25.600 As we were losing, we stopped the exercise.
00:26:30.140 We refloated the ships.
00:26:32.480 We restricted what the enemy team was allowed to do, and we ran it again until we won.
00:26:40.080 Van Riper protested. He walked out.
00:26:42.680 We ran the war game. We lost.
00:26:45.260 Then we changed the rules instead of what we knew they could do.
00:26:51.060 You know the other version.
00:26:52.340 And before 2001, our own government rehearsed airliners as weapons.
00:26:56.240 Tabletop exercises, a drill at the Pentagon.
00:26:58.840 We set aside the idea.
00:27:00.520 It was too far-fetched to take planes and fly them into buildings.
00:27:04.140 It wasn't a failure of imagination.
00:27:06.200 Somebody imagined it.
00:27:08.160 It was a failure of belief that people would do things.
00:27:11.980 I'm telling you, Iran is a desperate nation who believes.
00:27:17.600 Which brings us why Washington has not fixed the water.
00:27:20.900 march 2023 epa tried it told states to their to check their water system cyber security during
00:27:29.340 the sanitary surveys they already conduct you know like the one that we found the bomb
00:27:34.040 three attorneys sued missouri iowa and arkansas they sued they joined by the we were joined by
00:27:40.540 the american waterworks association and the national rural water association in july the
00:27:45.360 Eighth Circuit stayed the rule. That October, EPA withdrew it. Now, their argument wasn't stupid.
00:27:52.280 It was that Congress never gave the EPA authority under the Safe Drinking Water Act. So state
00:27:58.240 drinking water offices have no cybersecurity expertise. Survey findings carry public
00:28:03.580 notification requirements, which means publishing a list of which small towns are vulnerable.
00:28:09.160 And the cost lands on the rural utilities. They're already broke, so they couldn't do it.
00:28:14.860 and the federal government say you got to do it.
00:28:16.260 Well, we have to figure this one out.
00:28:19.160 They were right about the rule,
00:28:21.500 a checklist administered by people who don't understand
00:28:24.200 what is happening in the local community.
00:28:28.660 We have somebody, they found the hole.
00:28:32.200 Something has to fill the hole, but nothing did.
00:28:36.340 2024 in November, EPA's own inspector general
00:28:40.220 scanned about a thousand drinking water systems
00:28:42.680 serving over 190 million Americans.
00:28:44.860 97 of them, serving 26 million people, had critical or high-risk vulnerabilities.
00:28:51.760 Another 211, serving 82 million people, had opened portals visible from the outside.
00:28:58.700 1-1-1-1-1.
00:29:00.520 And when they went to report it, they found the EPA has no cybersecurity incident reporting system of its own.
00:29:06.760 So, partly no authority, partly no expertise, and partly because there's no such thing as the water system.
00:29:14.860 There are 50,000 of them, and they belong to your town.
00:29:20.640 So let me wrap this up.
00:29:21.900 What does all this mean?
00:29:23.060 It means that power is not in Washington.
00:29:25.380 You need to find out who runs the water, your city council, water district board, rural association, private utility with a public regulator.
00:29:33.920 That body meets in public on a schedule, and it meets most likely in a room that's usually empty.
00:29:39.800 You have to go.
00:29:41.960 You have to go, and you have to ask a few questions.
00:29:44.220 I'm going to give you those questions right after the break.
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00:32:05.200 Delano, welcome, my man.
00:32:06.380 How are you?
00:32:06.940 Good to see you, Glenn.
00:32:08.000 Good to hear from you.
00:32:08.740 It's good to have you.
00:32:09.820 I'm glad you're in our studios in Dallas.
00:32:12.440 I'm sorry I wasn't there to greet you myself, but it's good to have you on the program.
00:32:16.400 Tell me what your thoughts are on what happened with El Saeed.
00:32:20.880 Yeah, this is an interesting race.
00:32:23.260 I mean, obviously, a lot of progressive Democrats have been making headway in the party, and
00:32:27.120 obviously, the party is scrambling to figure out what to do with them.
00:32:30.020 You know, as somebody who grew up in New York, I saw this first with Mamdani.
00:32:35.080 I think he's a different type of politician.
00:32:36.960 um so it is interesting to see others trying to sort of follow in his footsteps i'm thinking of
00:32:43.140 jenise lewis george in washington dc and it seems like el saeed is you know a similar character even
00:32:48.140 though from what i've read he doesn't identify as a democratic socialist and actually calls himself
00:32:52.820 a capitalist but he he takes positions that are obviously uh uh to the to the far left so it this
00:33:00.280 seems to be the the left is going through something similar to what the right went through
00:33:05.740 in the Tea Party era where you have that faction that wants to pull the party in a more extreme
00:33:13.720 direction if you want to look at it like that. It'll be interesting to see where the party
00:33:18.420 ultimately settles out. But clearly a lot of people were surprised by last night.
00:33:23.320 I don't want to spend a lot of time on this, but it amazes me. You remember when the Tea Party,
00:33:28.540 they were just asking for lower taxes and follow the Constitution. And they were made into crazies
00:33:34.620 and that they hate America, they want to destroy the nation, all of these things.
00:33:39.120 And they just went on and on and on about how the main party just has to get control of all these crazies.
00:33:45.300 Here you have a party that actually states, I hate America.
00:33:49.760 I want to dismantle our form of government.
00:33:53.020 And the press is just like, yeah, well, they just have a different opinion.
00:33:56.180 And let's see who wins.
00:33:58.080 I mean, it's incredible.
00:34:00.520 Yeah, but I think that the left is going to have to deal with this regardless
00:34:03.980 Because even the people who they would say are more mainstream are still far to the left of the average median Democrat in, let's call it, 1990.
00:34:14.220 These are not Bill Clinton's Democrats, that's for sure.
00:34:16.880 No, no.
00:34:18.540 So is this good news for, I mean, especially I look at Detroit.
00:34:23.900 Anybody who is working on cars, anybody who is a blue-collar worker, I just don't see them identifying with El Saeed.
00:34:33.260 I mean, I don't see them identifying with anybody, but I could see them.
00:34:36.880 And if, do you have any, and I don't know where I'm pulling this from.
00:34:41.120 So I could be horribly wrong on this, Delano, but I seem to remember that there is, there's no love lost between the Arabs and the blacks.
00:34:49.560 And I'm, I'm speaking, you know, big picture here.
00:34:54.740 Is that a misunderstanding that I have?
00:34:57.720 Well, I, that's an interesting question.
00:35:00.660 I think the issue of obviously in the Middle East and Gaza, those are big issues.
00:35:07.140 My sense is for more progressive, especially younger black voters.
00:35:12.060 I don't know if it's as big an issue for older black voters.
00:35:15.740 The interesting thing is that Stevens won Wayne County, which has the largest black population by about five points.
00:35:24.520 Right.
00:35:24.960 So it'll be interesting to see the exit polls to see where black voters ended up with El Saeed.
00:35:29.060 um but but my sense is that a lot of voters across race across ethnicity are concerned about
00:35:36.480 the material issues and even conservatives i'm looking online conservatives are saying look the
00:35:42.580 republican party has to do something about affordability um and obviously democrats are
00:35:47.020 taking that message and i think their solutions and their proposals are ultimately going to be
00:35:52.300 worse, like city-run grocery stores. But it seems like those kitchen table issues are the types of
00:36:00.560 things that people are responding to. So both the left and the right have to figure out, okay,
00:36:05.420 what is our affordability agenda, both for young people who are feeling the squeeze,
00:36:12.300 obviously, at a different stage of life, and for middle-aged and older Americans?
00:36:17.260 You know, it's amazing to me because I've said to the president that, you know, he should be going for, we're going to cut all of the federal regulations, you know, except for the things that, you know, get people killed.
00:36:29.480 Cut as many of those federal regulations for housing.
00:36:32.880 Build, build, build, cut everything you have to cut within reason to get all of this regulation out.
00:36:39.140 I mean, the regulations for building homes and everything has, I think it has quadrupled in the last 10 years.
00:36:45.960 it's insane cut them cut them let people build again that that should be our answer is build
00:36:53.260 build build build build and i don't know why the republicans are not they just seem really lost on
00:37:01.200 as you said the kitchen table stuff what what about my food what about my gasoline what about
00:37:05.520 my house what about my job they've got to get that message right because the socialists they
00:37:10.640 have the right diagnosis, they have the wrong prescription. Yes, and I actually think the point
00:37:16.480 that you raise is a very interesting one because it touches on something of human nature. I worked
00:37:22.600 15 years in local government in Washington, D.C., and just from my experience and observation,
00:37:28.060 if you come to someone and you say, okay, I know you've identified a problem in your life,
00:37:32.140 there's an issue of affordability, and if one of the responses is, I'm going to cut government
00:37:37.620 in such a way that it will eventually redound to your benefit.
00:37:42.500 And then the other person says, well, I'm going to give you something
00:37:45.580 so that you can afford the things that you want.
00:37:48.940 My sense is that a good number of people are going to take the second option
00:37:52.600 because getting something in hand is a handout.
00:37:55.760 Correct. And that's how conservatives would frame it as a handout.
00:37:59.180 But for instance, let's go back to housing.
00:38:01.780 If you live in a city and the city says, okay, we're going to set aside $10 million
00:38:06.300 for first-time homebuyer programs or affordable homebuyer programs, where if you go through this
00:38:11.800 training, you will get cash in hand. I don't know, let's call it $10,000 or $15,000 to go
00:38:18.080 towards your closing payment. That, to me, is going to strike people as a much more attractive
00:38:24.420 option than a different politician saying, I'm going to cut regulations that will down the road
00:38:29.740 bring down the cost of housing for you. So here's the problem, Delano, that I think
00:38:34.400 that Trump is having right now.
00:38:36.920 He is, and you may disagree with this,
00:38:39.300 but as I see it,
00:38:40.340 he is redesigning the entire world.
00:38:42.660 He is, he's basically fixing the plumbing
00:38:45.460 and rewiring the entire house.
00:38:47.660 None of it's sexy.
00:38:48.920 And if you own the house,
00:38:50.140 it's the last thing you want to do
00:38:51.380 is have a contractor come in
00:38:52.660 when you just want to fix your house up,
00:38:54.400 make it nicer.
00:38:54.960 And he says, we really should start
00:38:56.360 with the electrical system.
00:38:57.920 It's a fire hazard
00:38:59.620 and the plumbing is all shot.
00:39:01.560 You don't want to do that.
00:39:03.140 Okay.
00:39:03.340 But you have to do that if you're going to have a house.
00:39:07.960 And so he's spending all of his time on that stuff because he saw, I can change this quickly and give stuff away or tweak this here and tweak this here.
00:39:16.800 But then after four years, it can all be done.
00:39:19.720 I've got to put the deep work in on the infrastructure to give us ready for the next century.
00:39:26.400 There's got to be some combination of that.
00:39:28.700 And that's my frustration.
00:39:30.300 A, nobody understands that.
00:39:31.720 And even if you do understand that, it doesn't help you while you're paying your bills.
00:39:35.000 So there's got to be some way to do a combination.
00:39:37.900 And hey, look, we're doing this long term.
00:39:39.780 But in the short term, we're going to cut all the regulation or long term, we're going to cut all the regulations so you can build.
00:39:44.940 But you need something to help you now.
00:39:46.800 So here's a $10,000 benefit or something like that.
00:39:50.180 I think if you can explain it that way, you could get the best of both worlds.
00:39:55.540 Right.
00:39:55.740 And I think that's a perfect analogy.
00:39:58.240 And to your point, as a homeowner, there's certain things that if they go wrong in your house, the infrastructure issues, yes, they're not sexy, but they certainly are expensive.
00:40:07.680 But if you're a child in one of the bedrooms and I don't know, you know, your bed is lumpy or there's mold in your room, then your thing is like, I'm not I'm not actually as interested in, you know, whether the water heater is on its last legs.
00:40:22.980 I want to address those things that affect me on an everyday basis first.
00:40:27.920 And I think finding that balance is the right thing.
00:40:30.580 So I can give you one tangible example, even something like the Trump accounts, right, where particularly parents with young children can say, I'm going to open this account.
00:40:39.340 Now, even that, you will get an immediate $1,000 into the account, but in order for it to feel the full benefit, you have to rely on the benefit, correct, of the free market and compound interest.
00:40:54.640 So, it's a challenge because I think voters across the board are often looking for the things that impact them in here and now.
00:41:02.400 Yeah. Honestly, it is the biggest problem that we face. We are a fast food society, and we have fine dining problems. I'm sorry, it's going to take a 10-course meal to fix this thing. You cannot get it at the window as you're driving through, but we don't want the 10-course meal.
00:41:20.800 We'd love it if we sat down and we ate the 10-course meal, but we have no understanding of it.
00:41:28.200 We have no desire for it.
00:41:29.760 We just need it right now.
00:41:31.920 And I don't know how you fix a nation like this if you can't get people to say, yeah, we have problems, and I'll bite the bullet if you'll give me a little help.
00:41:41.580 Give me a little help.
00:41:42.680 I'll bite the bullet, but this has got to work.
00:41:45.460 You know what I mean?
00:41:46.100 And show me the progress.
00:41:47.180 All right, I'm going to take a quick break because I want to, and if you don't mind, if you have time, I'd like to hold you over at the bottom of the hour and give you a little more time on this book because I think what you're doing is really, really important.
00:41:56.300 The name of the book is The Vanishing Black Family.
00:41:59.280 And this has been a theory of mine for a long time that how do you go from people who said no to the Civil Rights Act to four years later being the ones who designed the great society that's so good for blacks?
00:42:13.560 That doesn't make any sense to me at all.
00:42:15.420 I have nothing to back this up.
00:42:18.440 Someday I keep threatening I'm going to do the work on this.
00:42:22.700 But I think the guys who wrote that, I think they knew exactly what they were doing.
00:42:26.860 Because look at the result.
00:42:28.760 That great society destroyed the black family.
00:42:32.700 And Delano will back this up.
00:42:34.580 The name of the book is The Vanishing Black Family, but I think the subtitle says it all.
00:42:38.180 How Welfare and Feminism Made Marriage Optional and Children Vulnerable.
00:42:42.160 um delano you just heard me say something that i've believed intuitively for a long time and i
00:42:49.340 don't have any evidence that it's true but did you find anything that shows that that the the
00:42:56.520 great welfare system or the great society actually did the opposite and did you find anything that
00:43:03.040 says there were some in the progressive movement that were racist were were cheering for that
00:43:11.700 So I will say it's clear after 60 years that the expansion of welfare, particularly for low-income families, oftentimes targeted at black families starting in the 1960s, did a tremendous amount of damage to the structure of the black family.
00:43:31.800 And what I say in the book, and this is in chapter two, I say that welfare displaced men from their rightful positions as providers in their home.
00:43:39.760 Now, I'll say this, Glenn, and I say this as somebody who worked 15 years in local government.
00:43:44.980 I found that the besetting sin of elected officials and unelected bureaucrats, for that matter, is more often hubris than it is malice.
00:43:53.980 And I would say the same thing about, you know, Lyndon Johnson, Great Society, War on Poverty.
00:43:58.280 It's the idea that, you know, I as the president, as the commander in chief, as the leader of the free world, I can fix the problems of millions of people who I've never seen and never met and I do not know.
00:44:09.160 um, by the stroke of a pen, by increasing funding. Uh, and it's, it's, it's the idea that, okay,
00:44:14.440 if we just give people more material resources, their families will be stronger, not understanding
00:44:19.200 the worldview, um, that when you do something like that, and particularly when you say that
00:44:24.240 married couples are not eligible for welfare benefits, you create incentives for women,
00:44:29.560 particularly low income women to have children without the benefit of a husband. Um, so, so
00:44:34.360 I mean, if I'm not mistaken, there were, and I'm not assigning any malice to it, but there were those that would go to doors and say, look, I know you're struggling, we can't help you, but if you would just divorce, then you can afford it.
00:44:50.100 You can keep your relationship or anything, but you got a divorce.
00:44:53.140 So they were actually pushing those things.
00:44:56.460 Yeah, and you can see that from the 1960s and even to today.
00:45:00.980 I recently did an event around Father's Day called Invisible Men at the Heritage Foundation.
00:45:07.580 And what I found is that even today, guaranteed income programs for moms oftentimes write dads completely out of the family story.
00:45:15.920 And I trace that type of programmatic design directly to the welfare system that really came into place in the 1960s.
00:45:26.120 It's the idea that, you know, the mom is the beating heart.
00:45:29.560 She's the brain.
00:45:30.420 She's the, you know, the nervous system.
00:45:32.500 She's everything when it comes to the family.
00:45:34.540 The dad is the appendix.
00:45:35.940 Nice if you have one, but not particularly necessary.
00:45:39.380 Unbelievable.
00:45:40.140 And I think they ran that play first in the black community and certainly has expanded to everyone else since that time.
00:45:46.080 So you can, I mean, this is feminism that really sounds like it was pushing that.
00:45:52.380 But, you know, when you're going in and you're dismantling families like that, I'm sorry, why has there been nobody inside that has gone, hey, guys, this is not working?
00:46:08.320 You know, when you look at how our tax system is structured, you structure taxes to shape behavior.
00:46:15.060 You know, you say, hey, you're going to have to pay a cigarette tax.
00:46:17.800 You're trying to get people to stop smoking.
00:46:19.920 You shape behavior with that.
00:46:21.820 This whole thing seems to have been designed to destroy the family unit.
00:46:26.640 So at some point you have to say, wait, is there an agenda?
00:46:31.500 Why would they not dismantle it?
00:46:33.520 Or is it just, I don't want to lose my job.
00:46:36.080 Why would I try to convince people to cut my job?
00:46:40.040 Well, I certainly think that there are incentives, and I write this in the book.
00:46:44.320 I talk about the iron triangle between low-income moms, elected officials, and unelected bureaucrats.
00:46:49.420 So the low-income moms get access to resources from the government, so direct cash support, housing, health care, WIC, food.
00:46:59.320 The elected official gets votes and job security, right?
00:47:02.520 They love and power.
00:47:04.220 And then the unelected bureaucrat also gets job security because they are the people who actually manage the poverty economy.
00:47:10.360 Correct, correct, correct.
00:47:11.560 Now, who was left on the outside?
00:47:13.000 I named three parties.
00:47:13.960 I named women, politicians, and bureaucrats.
00:47:17.840 The party left on the outside is the man
00:47:20.880 Who in previous generations would have been the husband
00:47:23.400 And now, as I said, is written completely out of the story
00:47:26.640 Now you brought up feminism
00:47:28.080 And what I say is that
00:47:30.540 There was an interaction between these two
00:47:33.580 Cultural shocks in the mid-1960s
00:47:36.680 So again, welfare displaced men from their rightful home
00:47:40.060 From their rightful role as providers in the home
00:47:42.360 And second wave feminism deceived women
00:47:44.880 Into believing that femininity is weak
00:47:48.000 Masculinity is toxic in men, but empowering in women.
00:47:51.000 That marriage is oppressive, the home is a prison, and children are a burden.
00:47:55.340 And from that lesson, you get all types of things that, again, disrupt the dynamics between men and women,
00:48:01.680 which makes ultimately marriage obsolete and, you know, at the end of the day, children vulnerable.
00:48:07.820 And it is amazing that that is exactly the message they're now shoving on everyone.
00:48:13.800 With that track record of what it did to the black family unit, now pushing that.
00:48:19.300 And look what it did to the black society.
00:48:21.740 Horrible, horrible results.
00:48:24.400 And now we're pushing that here on the white community and everybody else.
00:48:28.020 It's going to have the same results.
00:48:29.580 Delano Squires and his book, The Vanishing Black Family.