The Glenn Beck Program - April 18, 2023


Best of the Program | Guests: Chip Roy & Jennifer DeStefano | 4⧸18⧸23


Episode Stats

Length

39 minutes

Words per Minute

173.73033

Word Count

6,780

Sentence Count

4

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

11


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 uh okay so i think today is kind of like an important day in the at least in the glennon's
00:00:10.920 in the glennon stew annals of time because something i predicted back in the 90s
00:00:17.160 happened today on the same day two different predictions happened on the same day yeah this
00:00:23.920 goes back a couple decades uh this one and you know a lot of it a lot of that had come true
00:00:29.620 previously but these are really specific examples very specific it really makes you wonder how we're
00:00:35.460 going to survive this next era you know i don't know what i learned this i learned this from child
00:00:40.600 counseling it's gonna be interesting to watch it's gonna be some interesting times i'm interested to
00:00:48.580 see how that's gonna work out wow yeah i like that yeah i think i might go there yeah i like it it's
00:00:56.160 gonna be interesting to watch this all uh unfold hey we will have plenty to talk about yeah that's
00:01:00.600 what i go back to all the time the stories we will have to tell um the laughs we will have right before
00:01:07.220 they put the noose around everybody's um anyway uh today's podcast is uh really good an amazing story
00:01:14.420 from a mom in arizona uh she was called her daughter called her crying on the phone mom they have me i've
00:01:24.760 been kidnapped wait until you hear the full story on that uh that we also have chip roy on who is he's
00:01:33.000 fighting there he's ready he is ready to go and the transgender nonsense continues we have that and
00:01:39.940 so much more on today's podcast in the 1960s 95 of the clothing americans bought was made right here
00:01:46.660 today 97 of it is made someplace else if the supply chain breaks down with china we're gonna be
00:01:54.940 we're gonna be without pants what are we gonna do uh it's a real problem uh because you don't want
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00:02:28.500 guarantee it you haven't seen one of these since they were making them like this back in like the
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00:03:03.080 here's the button you're listening to the best of the glenn back program
00:03:15.320 so uh google released bard in march stew's the only one that's used it but this is how powerful it is
00:03:28.420 microsoft uh was it mike no it was samsung is going to microsoft and and probably going to
00:03:37.560 stop loading the machines with google as its default browser and go to bing and not confirmed yet they
00:03:46.400 they're in a negotiation but apparently google was stunned of course they were by the development
00:03:51.800 bing has sucked forever going to bing yeah and that was one of the things that made them really
00:03:59.240 freak out about ai and caused them to release bard which is their version of ai maybe earlier than
00:04:07.960 was initially expected and you know having played with it a little bit it's like it does not seem like
00:04:14.120 it's uh ready ready to go so here is here's the head of google because bard was not ready anybody who
00:04:23.140 uses it knows that uh bard is not ready uh and they're just jamming things through the pipeline now
00:04:30.580 so they're not left in the dust well uh a sunday on 60 minutes a show nobody watches anymore
00:04:40.300 the ceo of google sat down and said yeah i mean there's an aspect of this in which we call a black
00:04:48.840 box you know we don't we don't fully understand how it comes up with uh an answer i mean you can't
00:04:57.060 quite tell why it said this or why it got it wrong we have some ideas and i'm sure our ability to
00:05:04.600 understand this will get better over time but uh that's where the state of the art is
00:05:09.060 okay you're releasing something that is making decisions and you don't understand one of the
00:05:17.680 reasons remember we told you this years ago that microsoft was dealing with a chat bot and it taught
00:05:24.180 itself another language it was it was going to chat bots they put together and uh they started talking
00:05:32.580 to each other and within i think it was like 14 minutes they started uh teaching each other a
00:05:39.000 language that no one watching understood by 17 minutes in it was all that language and they
00:05:45.680 unplugged it okay you're not this is alien life you don't know how this is going to to end up
00:05:55.500 um but google is like yeah but we don't understand the human mind either yeah so let's not introduce
00:06:02.080 another one what do you say but there's no way to stop this now elon musk is doing his best to get
00:06:09.480 people to slow down on it but i don't know how you do that china's not going to do this he was on with
00:06:16.440 tucker carlson uh last night and uh elon musk was talking about ai he said the dangers of ai could have
00:06:25.140 a more detrimental impact than just elections saying it will have a calamitous impact on the
00:06:31.820 existence of humanity in its entirety if it is not managed properly so now let me ask you a question
00:06:41.260 what do you do can we have this as just regular people not experts just regular people because i trust
00:06:49.400 regular people much more than i trust the experts lately what do we do do we have the government put
00:06:57.380 regulations in it so the government is involved in ai do we have the government like the manhattan
00:07:05.840 project we have the government just do it because they are doing it they are involved they will be the
00:07:14.340 first recipient of anything that we have going on okay and they're doing quantum computing too
00:07:20.640 do you feel comfortable with the government being the gatekeeper of who can use ai and who can't or
00:07:27.900 if it gets too dangerous they'll be the only ones to have it i'm not comfortable with that that's why i
00:07:34.960 don't want china developing it are you comfortable with us saying we're gonna put a moratorium on it
00:07:42.860 and let china get it first i'm not comfortable with that
00:07:48.820 so what is it we do we fix ourselves look at what we're doing right now we are working on something
00:08:00.140 that is as game-changing as the manhattan project and it's and it's is if we have you know they're
00:08:09.540 going to but they're just about to put a red button on everyone's phone so anyone could launch a
00:08:17.860 missile and we're like that's cool it's kind of scary though isn't it yeah i guess but i mean i
00:08:24.820 wouldn't put it on our phone if it look how convenient it is i can win arguments i just have
00:08:29.900 to push the little red button what are you crazy it is that dangerous in the hands of wrong people
00:08:39.720 told you yesterday how you could easily just collapse the banking system with this
00:08:45.120 easily today you could do that no thank goodness i don't well i i bet you people are working on it but
00:08:54.700 it's not happening yet but it will
00:08:58.140 the invisible hand of the market remember is is not a good or a bad hand it depends on the people who
00:09:14.140 are using it the invisible hand of the market gives us what we want because of who we are
00:09:25.020 so what is it look around what is it that we want power money fame wow control
00:09:38.220 technology is just technology it's like the internet it's going to be both good and bad
00:09:47.560 and you're never going to put the internet back into its bottle unless you collapse
00:09:52.540 you know energy fry all the chips and you're just not able to make them anymore
00:09:57.900 you can't put it back in the bottle the problem is not the gun the problem is not in this case it
00:10:06.220 might be the app but the only thing we can really change is ourselves that's it
00:10:12.060 did you see the poll that came out from a professor who's been doing a poll he says
00:10:22.200 40 000 people have done this uh taken this poll he said i've run it several times and i keep getting
00:10:30.000 the same results which universe is the better one one with humans or one without humans how do you
00:10:41.420 think that was answered 40 000 people took this poll how do you think it was answered
00:10:46.260 you're not willing to say huh no i mean the fact that you're bringing this up has to be that
00:10:53.740 people are saying that it would be better without humans okay no thank goodness no no but it's 58 to
00:11:00.680 41 okay okay closer than it should be a lot closer than it should be we are we're we're living with
00:11:10.520 people i'm going to give you one of the biggest stories of the day next hour about the latest in
00:11:16.720 these crazy climate people on what they're saying about foodstuffs these people they will starve the
00:11:26.240 world to death they'll starve the world to death and i think there's a lot of people that'll be like
00:11:33.940 okay so what's wrong with that that aren't thinking that oh you know that might be you
00:11:41.340 we have to restore the
00:11:47.720 the gods of the copybook headings we have to restore those things that we knew to be true
00:11:58.200 eternally true and it just starts in our own lives it's not that hard well yes it is it is actually
00:12:08.340 really hard i mean especially when i mean have you heard there's a new licking game where you can get
00:12:14.060 children to lick whipped cream or marshmallow fluff on one side of plexiglass and then you as an adult
00:12:21.620 could lick on the other side yeah it's just a game stew that we're playing in schools now
00:12:28.660 sounds totally normal yeah yeah they're even screwing up marshmallows these days that's that's
00:12:35.460 the state of our world well i will tell you i think that started with ghostbusters one but maybe
00:12:40.180 that's just me this is the best of the glenbeck program
00:12:45.820 chip how are you sir well and how are you sir good i should i should actually pay more respect to
00:12:54.360 you i mean i you're a chip to me uh but uh congressman it's good to have you on yeah
00:13:00.460 now look we're uh we're friends and uh that means a lot look at the end of the day we get these titles
00:13:06.040 titles don't mean much unless you earn it and congress needs to earn their titles yeah we are
00:13:12.080 we are we're looking at a big battle the the republicans always fail on this they always lose
00:13:19.240 their spine at the last minute and uh and that's why we're in the mess we're in right now
00:13:24.600 you don't have any control or any levers of anything the administration is doing so they
00:13:32.100 can spend and do whatever they want because you no longer have the purse strings
00:13:35.840 well look we the house representatives do control the purse strings what we congress have historically
00:13:44.000 done was given the power the president too much power and not use those purse strings to rein in the
00:13:50.080 president this is at the center of what we're talking about right now i believe the speaker
00:13:55.080 has done a good job laying out the baseline uh i don't mean the baseline in a budget sense but the
00:14:00.020 sort of the floor which is we need to go back to 2022 levels of spending which to restrain the
00:14:05.220 bureaucracy we could cut it back to pre-covid levels basically but then we need to be very specific
00:14:11.620 about trying to undo the damage that this president has been doing both in terms of legislation that
00:14:17.200 has passed as well as executive action we need to undo the damage of the inflation reduction act
00:14:22.240 so-called which has all these ridiculous green subsidies which would destroy our ability to
00:14:27.700 have economic growth and energy freedom we need to undo the damage of the irs proposal which will
00:14:32.900 hang these bureaucrats going after the american people who are trying to just go through their life
00:14:37.080 and sick tax agents after them we need to make sure that we're going to you know peel back some of
00:14:43.000 these executive actions like the president's trying to get in the way of states who want to deal with
00:14:46.560 their own decisions on the transgender bathrooms or the pistol braces and other things that affect
00:14:51.560 our freedoms these are all things we can be doing the world health organization needs to be stopped
00:14:55.940 you and i've talked about that a lot it's ridiculous these are things that we can do using the power of
00:15:01.520 the purse now not saying we get all of that but republicans better damned well fight for those things
00:15:07.380 force it as far as we can get it and then you got to figure out when you got an offer and then go back
00:15:12.900 and get some more but under no circumstances should we pass a long-term debt ceiling increase to
00:15:17.980 mortgage our kids future without getting substantive changes like the ones i just outlined and we're
00:15:23.140 right in the middle of having those debates right now and internally so what is the mood from the
00:15:29.060 republicans look we it this is all difficult right i mean i i don't i i want to be honest i speak
00:15:36.320 of mccarthy has a tough job i'm not trying to give an excuse it is hard we had a good conversation this
00:15:41.720 morning we laid out an outline that i think is a good uh framework okay there are still some things
00:15:48.660 we need to address for me for example the inflation reduction act with all of the green subsidies which
00:15:55.300 are basically giveaways largely to big corporations advancing leftist causes you know enriching them
00:16:02.240 undermining our national security undermining our energy security driving up the cost of your energy
00:16:07.060 you know putting in place all these ridiculous requirements they've got cafe standards now
00:16:12.000 they're trying to require all battery driven fleet cars by 2030 how are you and i going to drive around
00:16:17.680 texas with that and afford it these things we have to stop so some of this is going to take a willpower
00:16:25.180 to drive a larger agenda on this um beyond just this the sort of dollars and cents we normally get
00:16:32.000 trapped in in a debt ceiling fight reducing spending is part of it but we're going after a
00:16:37.280 woke weaponized bureaucracy undermining your freedom undermining economic growth undermining
00:16:42.080 well-being and national security of this country all in the name of a climate fetish agenda driven by
00:16:47.420 radical leftists that this president is fueling we have to stand in the way of that i think we've got
00:16:52.900 a lot of the makings there but i'm going to be blunt there are a handful of folks in our conference
00:16:58.200 who get a little wobbly you know it it always happens and we're having to hold the line same
00:17:03.060 debate is occurring on border security by the way where a handful of people want to undermine our
00:17:07.920 ability to actually get transformative change we're not going to do that we want to be like
00:17:12.340 democrats were in obamacare yes they didn't care they took it to the limit we need to stand up and
00:17:18.240 take it to the limit this is i mean we are about to see uh a big change on the border to the negative
00:17:25.740 uh here in in the next title 42 yeah title 42 that that is that's really going to make things
00:17:34.640 really bad uh on the uh on the border who who is it that is trying to well you don't have to tell me
00:17:41.640 but oh i will find out i'm not going to name names yet but i promise you we're either going to pass
00:17:46.860 good bill or we're going to or we're going to have a vote and then you'll know because there'll be a
00:17:51.600 voting record we're not going to do anything in between we need to pass a good bill we need to
00:17:56.900 have the provisions that will stop the releases into our country in violation of law that are the
00:18:01.900 magnet that are causing the cartels to make profit that are undermining our national security endangering
00:18:06.260 americans endangering migrants killing migrants driving fentanyl into our communities we need to stop
00:18:11.540 it we can we've got to have the willpower to do it over 200 republicans agree that we need to do it
00:18:17.460 there's a small block and we're working through it in good faith i'm not going to go pointing fingers
00:18:22.820 we're working through in good faith i think we're going to move a good bill through the judiciary
00:18:26.300 committee tomorrow that would do the job but we're going to have to see how things unfold over the next
00:18:31.100 week or two based on what we get through is there is there any kind of uniting things on agencies like
00:18:37.740 just slashing the department of education or justice because of all the lies that are coming out
00:18:45.180 is there any is there any rock that everybody will rally around when it comes to the republicans
00:18:51.380 well i will say this we right now have a pretty good level of agreement probably even 218 to say
00:18:59.200 that we should return to 2022 spending now i want you to think about that to do that and keep our
00:19:04.800 spending for defense up where we need it to be to fight china i mean we need to get all of their
00:19:09.520 you know not you know they're you know dei and all their woke stuff yeah but we still need to spend
00:19:15.520 it if you do that then you return non-defense spending to 2019 pre-covid levels that's a pretty
00:19:21.840 good whack at the bureaucracy now i mean it's not like 2019 was the paragon of virtue for you know
00:19:27.960 better than this but it's better than this if we do that that's a pretty good whack at the bureaucracy
00:19:33.580 across the board now once you appropriate well you target that at the new fbi headquarters restricting
00:19:40.280 the justice woke programs go after the garbage at the department of education that's you know
00:19:45.220 poisoning the minds of our kids go after the garbage at the department of interior epa that are
00:19:50.000 undermining our ability to produce you know wealth and and grow the economy we can do a lot of that
00:19:55.920 but you do that in the appropriations process right now what we're doing is saying we're going to set
00:19:59.980 the caps let's go return to 2022 level spending and then let's identify those demons but we're
00:20:05.000 doing that right now in all of our messaging you know them you do it every day on the show
00:20:08.100 why do you need a three and a half billion dollar new headquarters for an fbi that has been undermining
00:20:12.700 our security and targeting it correct i don't think we should do that so what happens it leaves the house
00:20:18.520 it has to go to the senate and then what's the senate gonna do well i mean you know what they're
00:20:24.880 gonna do they're gonna balk they're gonna say this is gonna like kill you know babies and you
00:20:28.880 know orphans and women and old people i mean you know it's what they always do and i just try to
00:20:34.060 train republicans don't care about that own it know they're gonna do it you know relish it um bathe in
00:20:41.360 it and send it over to them unapologetically if we try to balance the budget in 10 years which would
00:20:47.440 be an unbelievable undertaking to accomplish actually it's really mathematically difficult
00:20:52.280 you're going to still have a massive amount of debt pile up right we're still going to have we're
00:20:57.960 going to raise the debt to like 50 trillion you know right in other words that's that's if we do
00:21:03.140 the hard work of balancing in 10 years so we're going to try to send over responsible first year
00:21:09.380 spending on the back of a debt ceiling increase that you guys want us to increase the debt ceiling a
00:21:13.440 trillion or two trillion dollars then you're going to reset the baseline we're going to reduce spending
00:21:18.800 from the bureaucracy we're going to get the bureaucracy out of the way we're going to recoup some of this
00:21:23.160 covid money we're going to end the 500 billion dollars of student loan that would just save 500
00:21:27.840 billion instantly in deficit for 2023 all of those are things that we can go do if we fight for send
00:21:33.940 it over to the senate make them own you know uh favoring a a rich kid who got student loan stuff or
00:21:41.000 whatever over a over a plumber or the or the or favor the person who hasn't paid off the student loans
00:21:46.100 versus the person who has make them be in favor of the irs we're against you know growing the irs
00:21:51.540 make them be in favor of the fbi bureaucrat labeling parents as domestic terrorists we're
00:21:56.020 in favor of not rewarding them and getting them focused on their actual task of going after real
00:22:00.900 criminals we can win these messages if we go take it to them it is a weaponized government undermining
00:22:06.640 your liberty that needs to be thwarted if we're going to save america and that's our goal here if
00:22:12.300 you don't do they understand uh the gop is about to lose any brand loyalty there's just i mean it's
00:22:22.400 that's barely there but i mean i agree well you know it's over if you guys don't do things
00:22:29.060 at this time at when it's this bad why would you even ever give to the gop well let me just say this
00:22:38.460 um i believe in results so i don't like telling you what's being said because it doesn't matter
00:22:43.000 right what matters is what we do what we get done i will tell you in the private conversations
00:22:47.820 from the speaker now there is a firm recognition that our constituents expect us to do at least
00:22:54.600 two things but you know dozens more but at least two things one secure our border and try to force
00:23:00.880 the administration's hand to do it and give the tools to the next president to do it but secure our
00:23:05.780 border and two radically cut spending and change the trajectory of the deficit pile up that's
00:23:13.360 funding the bureaucrats that's undermining our freedom those two things must be dealt with or
00:23:19.460 the republican party is going to be in the half sheet of history yeah there are many other things we need
00:23:23.860 to do i mean you and i can go list them but if we don't do those two things we're dead man walking
00:23:29.140 and i will say the speaker has effectively said that so have a number of other folks that you may not
00:23:35.500 expect in the conference accepting and understanding that we're trying to work in good faith we're a
00:23:40.860 quarter into this we passed a number of good bills you know we're debating a bill right now to try to
00:23:46.040 make sure that they can't discriminate against you know our girls in sports by allowing these you know
00:23:51.800 transgender folks to undermine the you know uh riley you know gains and the others of the world
00:23:58.920 so we know we're doing some things that are important but title 42 is coming our border is
00:24:04.340 wide open it's coming to summer we got to do something about it and the spending is out of
00:24:08.360 control so we got to get busy how can we help you just keep the heat up make sure everybody out
00:24:15.200 there knows make your and look and support the congressmen who are in tough districts let them know
00:24:20.940 you'll have their back let them know you're not just going to yell at them you can say look go fight
00:24:25.660 for the things we said you do cut the spending secure the border and i'll come to support you
00:24:29.180 we'll get out and get you reelected but most importantly is just keep the heat up keep the
00:24:33.680 prayers coming uh keep the faith right second timothy uh four seven we're supposed to fight the fight
00:24:39.940 keep the faith um you know finish the race not in that order but um that's that's what we're
00:24:45.220 supposed to do okay chip thank you very much appreciate it i would uh god bless you uh i would
00:24:52.260 highly highly highly recommend now is the time to make a call to your congressman and just say hey
00:25:01.460 just heard chip roy on uh i want to back you up i mean i'm hoping that our congressman is the one
00:25:09.600 that's going to be fighting with uh with uh chip to get these things done we just want you to know
00:25:15.460 you do that we have your back if we can flood them with positive stuff because they're used to hearing
00:25:20.880 the bad things if we can flood them with positive stuff maybe maybe we can get this uh get this
00:25:27.660 through because it has to it has to if we don't if we don't cut the budget and cut the size of this
00:25:35.440 out of control um uh government we don't survive as a nation we don't and we're putting all of our
00:25:43.580 money in the wrong places china is about to open a can of whoop ass on us and what are we doing what are
00:25:53.020 we doing the best of the glenbeck program
00:25:59.420 welcome to the glenbeck program i heard a story the other day um it's it's truly amazing i think it
00:26:10.580 was first reported um out of uh arizona family um and these these two writers they do this incredible
00:26:22.420 interview with this mother who went through hell you're this is a story that is showing you the
00:26:32.600 future jennifer's de stefano is with us um and she is uh married and mother of four and she had
00:26:45.420 an incredible experience when her phone rang and she almost didn't pick it up jennifer welcome to the
00:26:52.260 program hi glenn thank you so much for having me this this is so crazy when i read this i was like
00:26:58.740 oh my gosh this is the future um tell me what happened yeah it was horrifying i um my daughter
00:27:09.740 was uh training for a ski race and um so she was away with my husband and my younger son as he competes
00:27:17.440 as well and i was uh with my younger daughter who had rehearsal so i um got a phone call and i saw it
00:27:27.180 come up as i was getting out of my car as an unknown number so um i first was not going to
00:27:33.100 answer but then i thought well that could be a medic or could be a doctor hospital and brie is training
00:27:37.560 so um you know in case he got hurt i should answer it so i had my phone on speaker as i was carrying
00:27:43.460 some things inside to meet my younger daughter uh dance and all of a sudden uh my daughter brianna's
00:27:50.380 voice says mom and she's sobbing and crying and she has a very specific type of sob and cry she's
00:27:57.100 not a whaler she's not a screamer she doesn't freak out it's very internal and controlled
00:28:00.860 and so i didn't doubt for one second i was hurt so it's her voice saying mom and she's crying and
00:28:06.880 sobbing and i said what happened what's going on she goes mom i messed up and she's still sobbing and
00:28:13.340 crying so i'm thinking she got hurt i'm like what what do you what happened what's going on all of a
00:28:18.860 sudden i heard a man's voice say lay down put your head back so i thought she was being gurneyed or
00:28:24.620 tobogganed or something down the mountain and then she goes mom mom these bad men have me help me help
00:28:30.160 me help me and this guy comes on full voice and her face in the background face and it's her pleading
00:28:35.740 and sobbing and crying for help and he goes listen here i have your daughter um you're not going to call
00:28:41.300 the police you're not going to talk to anybody if you do i'm going to pump her stomach so full of drugs
00:28:45.640 i'm going to have my way with her and i'm going to drop her in mexico and you'll never see
00:28:48.840 your daughter again even talking about it still makes me um it still gets me but anyway so i at
00:28:55.900 that point i had her own speaker and i i was walking into my other daughter's studio um and i just started
00:29:02.780 screaming for help it was after hours i knew my younger daughter was there with at least one teacher
00:29:07.600 um i didn't know there was a couple other moms and a couple other students there and so the mom
00:29:12.960 came around me and heard all of the things that he was threatening to do and what was going on
00:29:18.620 so one jumped on the phone and called 9-1-1 with her phone um i asked i was trying to text my older
00:29:25.540 son i was trying to text my other kids my daughter you know find brie where's brie what's going on
00:29:31.420 where's your dad find your dad um and while shaking the other mom went and grabbed my younger
00:29:38.340 daughter's phone because my daughter was just paralyzed listening to all the things he was saying
00:29:42.140 and um tried contacting my husband um to find out where he was and where brie was and they were at
00:29:49.620 they asked for a million dollars at that point they asked for a million dollars um which
00:29:55.480 wasn't going to be possible uh he got really angry with me um and then he demanded fifty thousand
00:30:02.820 dollars and so i said okay um just and i wanted to talk to my daughter again he wouldn't let me talk
00:30:08.240 to her again though um and that's when we found out from 9-1-1 that there was this ai scam going on
00:30:13.980 that's being used and that this is pretty common which we were horrified to hear but that gave us some
00:30:19.380 hope um but still i i didn't know for sure if that was what was happening so uh i asked him for
00:30:24.920 wiring instructions or how he wanted me to get this fifty thousand dollars for him and he refused
00:30:30.220 a wire and he was demanding that i was going to be personally picked up and i was going to be
00:30:35.660 transported in a van with a bag over my head with the cash to my daughter and if we didn't have all the
00:30:41.820 money that both of us were going to be dead and he wanted to make arrangements to come physically pick
00:30:47.580 me up um so at that point we had the police on their way and then finally we were able to get my
00:30:54.400 husband on the phone with uh and he was able to locate and make sure that my daughter was safe
00:30:59.600 and in his possession but her voice was so real that i couldn't i didn't believe that he really
00:31:07.440 had her and that she was really safe because her voice i was like i just spoke to her well how can
00:31:12.300 she be there with you and how can she be there with these guys i don't understand what's going on
00:31:17.020 and my brain just could not process that um as they kept trying to reassure me that she was safe
00:31:22.600 until they finally handed me the phone and i was able to talk to her and she reaffirmed that she was
00:31:27.820 safe and she was with dad and what's going on and then that's when i got back on the phone with those
00:31:32.160 guys and called them out on the scam which they kept denying was a scam and then i hung up on them
00:31:37.840 isn't this incredible so if if anybody missed it in the audience this was an ai uh representation of
00:31:49.440 her daughter how did they get the how did they get the the the um the sound to be able to reproduce
00:31:58.480 her voice yeah i've racked my brain on that um my daughter's not very big on social media and all
00:32:06.540 any accounts she has is private i mean her tiktok account is 32 followers so um she uh she has done
00:32:14.780 some interviews some sports interviews she's an athlete she does have a public photographer like
00:32:20.640 account from when she did some modeling for some outerwear and skiing but not but the voice the crying
00:32:27.000 the sobbing is where i can't even find anything that where they i'm not sure and so that's what's
00:32:33.680 really haunting for me if i can't figure out that piece of the puzzle i don't know where they got
00:32:37.900 that i'm going to see if some of our guys can look into that because that that is disturbing that they
00:32:45.780 can do that um did they catch the guys uh they're not looking into it so unfortunately because um you
00:32:54.920 know there was no transaction of money and there was no physical kidnapping um there's nothing that
00:33:00.320 can be done so it's written up as a prank call oh my gosh oh my gosh when i talked to the police
00:33:09.000 it was um you know we can have an officer call you if you feel unsafe just to reassure you that
00:33:14.940 you're safe but there's nothing that can be done wow did they say how often this is happening
00:33:23.160 they did not but they did say that um this isn't the first report they've had of it um but that
00:33:30.840 there's nothing that they can do um when i put it out i put it out on next door just as a warning
00:33:36.120 um because i didn't know if it was targeted to our area i didn't know where the targeting was coming
00:33:40.540 from all of a sudden all these other people started coming forward with their stories including my own
00:33:44.980 mother called me and she had never told me this before but my brother's voice was used to call her
00:33:51.400 to say that he had been injured in a car accident and that he needed money and she's hard of hearing
00:33:56.340 so she asked them to keep repeating because it wasn't making sense to her and the way they spoke
00:34:01.100 to her and they kept saying mom don't you recognize me that kind of tipped her off that something funny
00:34:06.280 was going on and so she told him to go find a real mother and hung up on them but and my brother's not
00:34:11.760 anywhere his voice isn't anywhere i can think of either so he's he's my age he's in his 40s
00:34:17.300 so i it you know goes so far and so wide and so deep in so many different areas
00:34:23.000 the good news is for my wife if they kidnap me because my voice is everywhere she'll be like
00:34:30.560 take him mexico fine can you take him further that'd be great uh jennifer thank you for sharing this um
00:34:38.760 what an amazing story thank you thank you for bringing awareness so we can hopefully stop this
00:34:44.940 yeah thank you jennifer uh de stefano she's a mom in arizona that's the that is the first time
00:34:54.580 i've heard of an ai crime using artificial voice i mean that's going to work against a lot of people
00:35:03.360 oh my gosh imagine how terrified you'd be especially when they're saying you can't get off the phone
00:35:07.180 you know you you you there's no way to you're making judgments about massive life-changing
00:35:14.820 decisions in moments where you're totally out of sorts you just said you said to me two hours ago
00:35:21.180 um i don't know if it was on the air or off the air but you were like i said this is this is as powerful
00:35:27.120 as the nuclear bomb when we invented it it's going to change the world that much except we all have a
00:35:36.500 little red button on our phone okay and you said you really think it could change that look at the
00:35:42.880 damage done today with just that imagine bots set out to do as many as they can of this in one day
00:35:55.040 where you have 50 000 people in america get a call like that on the same day and on the same day you
00:36:02.100 would even be able to automate the kidnappers voices yeah you don't even need to have people
00:36:06.320 on the other side of the phone no one just you know stick uh you know the account information or
00:36:10.780 whatever in there and and who knows how many people would wire 5 000 10 000 20 000 to try to
00:36:17.880 make sure that this is not happening to their kid i you know and we see these hacker type of
00:36:25.040 situations where state governments city governments are paying actually the hackers they're actually doing
00:36:31.100 it when they're actually paying ransoms when did i say to you there's going to come a time that you
00:36:37.500 won't believe your eyes or your ears oh gosh it was very early on in the show you said that and you
00:36:42.240 know you i mean almost all of the things that you came up with have come true or at least are almost
00:36:48.360 true so that was at least 20 years ago yeah okay at least 20 years ago when when she said this i
00:36:57.220 didn't realize it until the middle of it i looked at stew off air and i said you won't believe your
00:37:03.140 eyes as i thought about that while she was talking i thought of something else today is the day that the
00:37:11.600 sony um uh photograph of the year okay beautiful photograph the guy won photograph of the year it's a
00:37:24.980 world competition photograph of the year from sony and he just admitted today i can't accept the award
00:37:33.280 because that's ai and i thought we should talk about how good ai is today is the day you cannot
00:37:42.720 believe your eyes sony didn't pick it up and you cannot believe your ears that's bizarre
00:37:53.520 wow and how could we if sony can't detect it how are we going to be able to tell what is real and
00:38:03.720 what is not we don't have i and my my typical conservative complaint reaction to this has been
00:38:09.860 like well we used to have institutions that would be able to decipher these things and you could trust
00:38:13.580 them and now we don't have those well but i mean sony it's not like they were weren't trying to
00:38:18.820 figured this out they just didn't know they couldn't decipher it how how on earth are we
00:38:25.540 going to be able to tell what is true and what is not i'm screw i'm buying i'm buying a shack
00:38:29.100 what's idaho like this this time of year if we could get idaho to be warmer yeah and it'd be a lot
00:38:35.140 warmer yeah that's the problem that's the i need to i need to find the place like the unabomber shack
00:38:41.180 land that has a beach that's what i need where's that is that a place i need well i think you want
00:38:49.100 a shack on the beach i'm you just wait california out for a little while longer and they'll all be
00:38:56.040 shacks on the beach
00:38:57.480 shacks on the beach
00:38:59.560 shacks on the beach