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Glenn and Stu discuss the Mueller press conference and how the media reacted to it. They also talk about the latest in the Mount Everest saga. Glenn also talks about how a man in a wheelchair was able to make it across the top of Mount Everest.
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Hey, welcome to the podcast. We have a fascinating, a fascinating podcast today in the middle of the
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podcast, the Mueller press conference happened. And so we tried to figure this out and really
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tried to look at it as if this was Harry Truman, you know, somebody that, you know, or Eisenhower,
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somebody that you're not really passionate for or against per se. And it's away far enough away
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from our emotions because it's hard to look at this and not see what the press is doing,
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not see what the Democrats are trying to do. And so your defenses go up. So we have to look at it
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clinically. And I know what the media is saying about this. What was our impression when Mueller
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finally spoke out? I think it may surprise you that also Missouri's abortion rules and Netflix
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saying, Hey, you kill babies and we're going to come to your state with money. I mean, it's,
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it's insane. Plus a really great couple, uh, Chris and Emily Norton, who you might've seen their viral
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video. He's paralyzed in a wheelchair. Uh, and he was in college and he was graduating. He just wanted
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to make it across, uh, to accept his, his diploma walking. He did that video went viral, but you don't
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know the half of their story. It's amazing. All that. And so much coming up in today's podcast.
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as we're standing on the summit, uh, about to reach the peak of Everest and it's crowded as we're
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looking at all of the stories. They need a, they need like a, a Wendy's or something up there.
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Can I tell you something? It's grotesque what it's turned into.
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Ah, I mean, it's, it's a lot of people want to do it, right? I mean, a lot of people want to say
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they scaled Everest. And at some point, so many people have scaled Everest. No one wants to say
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they scaled Everest anymore. You want to scale Everest and stand in line for your photo op? It's like
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Disney. It is. Grotesque. Well, it's, it's really just a, you know, this is a dumb
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complication, but basically there's only like a very short time you can actually do it. Right.
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And so they give away is, I mean, look, it's Nepal. They're like here, we have one thing,
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that giant hill over there. I know. Charge whatever we can. Yeah. They're charging $11,000
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for the permit to do it and everybody's paying it. Yeah. So they're like, okay. And this time
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it was a relatively short period, even shorter than normal. So everyone rushed up there at the same
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time. And you know that they're like, people are passing dead bodies. Yeah. Cause you can't get
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dead bodies down. It's like $70,000 to remove a body from the top of Mount Everest and people have
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died. And so they just leave them there. So you're like, Hey, I'm going to get my photo op.
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That's a dead body over there. We'll just keep it out of the crop it out of the picture.
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I mean, it's weird what's happening. It is. It is. Um, so I don't know that I wouldn't start with the
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Everest thing. No, no, no. Myself. But I think the Missouri thing is significant. Uh, basically there is a,
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a new moment in this abortion, uh, conversation that we're having right now. Uh, Missouri has
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implemented some of the most restrictive abortion laws in America. Uh, and you know, obviously this
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is all going to an eventual Supreme court challenge of many different parts of Roe versus Wade, but also
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the, the entire, the entirety of it. Um, but Missouri has one abortion clinic left and it is
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Planned Parenthood and they have been audited at Planned Parenthood. And so Planned Parenthood
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is like, they actually did have problems. They went through the entire audit and they found,
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you know, significant issues. Planned Parenthood, uh, gave them a plan and this is how we're going
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to correct those issues. And the state's like, yeah, well, that doesn't look sufficient. We want
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to have some interviews with some of the people who work there and Planned Parenthood is refusing.
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They won't even let, they won't even be like, think about this. If you are an abortion supporter
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for a second, you are saying, this is this fundamental ride and it's all about women's
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rights. And then Planned Parenthood is saying, yeah, we're not going to let you, uh, interview
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our doctors to keep this clinic open. They're saying, no, you can't interview them. Now, God only
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knows what would happen if they did interview them because who knows what shady stuff there they've
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been doing there and what they would admit to, uh, under questioning they may. And that is probably
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why Planned Parenthood doesn't want them interviewed. But if they don't interview them, the state is
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saying, well, if you don't go along with the process that we've outlined here, you are going
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to not, your license is going to expire and we're not going to renew it. So that expires, I believe in
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one week. Do you imagine any other business, imagine financial sector, uh, car sector, anybody,
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when the state license you and you as a business say, no, you can't interview us on the license
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renewal. No, you can't talk to any of us. You have dairy. You even think about talking to us.
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Everybody would say, what are you doing? What, why are you doing that? What are you hiding?
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You know, and maybe they're not hiding anything. Maybe it's just on principle, but if you're a
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regulated industry, you imagine the cable company saying to Congress, uh, you know what, we're not
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showing up. You have to understand though, Glenn, there's a fundamental principle of the left that
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they just don't believe in government regulation. They don't want the government in the business
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of, of, of a doctor and patient relationship. They want nothing to do with that except for
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universal healthcare. Well, yeah. And other and every other interaction, including things that you buy
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over the counter, they want, they want, and they want the FDA to basically block every new medication
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for until the end of time. And they want to be able to sue every drug manufacturer every time
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someone has a negative side effect. And sure. They want to do all of those things and they want to be
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involved in every aspect of your life from birth to death. But this one thing, they are just basically
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Ayn Rand on, right? They don't want any government interaction. Imagine, imagine the left. If you,
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if the, if the insurance industry or the drug manufacturing industry said, we're not taking
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any questions, you can't question us. How dare you even question us? Can you imagine what they'd
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be saying? Yeah, that doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. No, but they have special rights. Planned
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Parenthood gets special rights because they're a protected political group and their case is basically
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they're harassing us. They're coming up with these things, these crazy things that we have to do,
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and we're not going to go along with them anymore. But again, like if you're protecting a fundamental
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human right, like you say you are, surely interviews is not too far, right? That's not
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too much to ask. They're doing this because I think they think there's, there could be a potential
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disaster if they get their employees in front of these people questioning who might think a little
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bit more about themselves and say, look, I'm going to be honest. I don't want to get thrown in jail for
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lying about any of this. So they may be honest. And that is not what Planned Parenthood wants.
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It'll be interesting. This would be the first state since Roe versus Wade occurred to have zero
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abortion clinics in it. They would have zero as of next week. I have to tell you, it's this by the,
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the Democrats forcing this by taking such an extreme position. They are forcing people that have never
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thought about it before, never wanted to think about it because it was in that safe,
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uh, legal and rare category. And people were happy living there. You know, the vast majority,
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I shouldn't say vast, 50, 60% of, of Americans were happy living there. Safe, rare, legal. It just
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covered everything for, for, for most people in America. And because they got away from safe,
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rare and legal to shout your abortion. Abortions are great. My best abortion happened. The first
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abortion to where it was, it's crazy. It forced people to go, wait a minute, wait a minute,
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wait a minute, that's life. Oh, now wait a minute. When does life actually start? And we're having
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real deep conversations for the very first time. And it may not be happening on the left,
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but it is happening on the right. And that's why you're seeing States like Missouri say, you know,
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none zero because people are having this, that they have, they have played this card because they
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believe that there is enough Americans who will say, Oh my gosh, look, they're trying to shut down
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all abortions. I'm going to vote for the people who said, yeah, you can let the child die after birth.
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I'm going to vote for them because of these extremists that don't want anything because
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they say it's life. I'm sorry. I don't think you're going to win. I really don't. I think
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Americans are fair. They don't want to be involved in your life. They don't, they won't want to be
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involved in your decisions. They under, they have enough hard decisions to make on their own.
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I don't know about you, but I'm dealing with my teenage kids and I don't need to mess with you.
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Why am I getting involved in your life? My life is enough. I'd like somebody to help me out on mine.
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I'm looking for some answers. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I think that's where most people are.
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But when you go so far where you're like, yeah, that's not even a kid.
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What? Right. My abortion's biggest friend has always been the ability to drown out
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the thought about it. Yes. Right. And so like you think about it,
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people don't want to think about it. Right. Like you're in an apartment, right? And you hear
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yelling and fighting in the next apartment through the walls. Abortion's biggest friend has been
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America's unending ability to just turn up the music really loud and not hearing. Right. And,
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and so there's, that's going on, you know, so what? Because of our tolerance, because we don't want
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to get involved in somebody else's affairs. Right. And so that's your starting point, right?
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However, when you hear the plate hit the wall and break and you hear a giant piece of furniture
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turnover and at that point, Americans, all right, I got to turn the music down and listen to this
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because what the hell is going on? I got to call the cops. Yep. And that is where we are,
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I think with abortion. I think so too. They have come to the point where they're,
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they are, you, you can't, you can't ignore it anymore because of the extremes they're going to.
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And that overall is a good thing. I, I, I fear the idea that we're in a debate about the ninth
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month of pregnancy because, you know, because if you lose this, the Overton window moves.
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Yeah. You, you lose, you lose this debate. If, if, if people go numb on this, we are then killing
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children. We are the, the next, the next thing we debate is, you know, their healthcare is too
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expensive. So just let them die. I mean, that's, what's going to happen because historically that's
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what happens. And I think America is drawing the line. I, I, you know, I, I thought about this a lot
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last night. Um, and I listened to three different speeches. I listened to, uh, George Washington's
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farewell address, Eisenhower's farewell, audio of Washington's. That's amazing. Yeah. It's
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actually audio. Somebody else read it, but yes, um, I did figure it out. So, uh, uh, Washington's
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farewell address, Eisenhower's farewell address, and Reagan's time for choosing. And I want to work
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on this a bit for, for tomorrow's, uh, broadcast, but I will tell you that everything that they said
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is happening now. Uh, and everything that they were talking about is 100% reasonable. I believe
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to our democratic neighbors, to those who vote Democrat, they will listen to these words. If
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they are presented in the right way, they will listen to those words and go, yeah, that's true.
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I agree with that. Absolutely. And, um, and I remember in 2008, you might remember this.
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We were so freaked out and I prayed so hard and I got two answers. One, these are not enemies of
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yours. They're enemies of mine. Anybody who stands against freedom, basic human freedom, they're not
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enemies of yours. Those are my rights. I've lent it. You're going to have to fight for them, but those
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are my rights that I lend to you. So be on my side. I'm not on your side. I'm on the side of rights.
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Be on my side. That was the first thing at the same time. I got another message and that was
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their arrogance will be their undoing. Don't worry. Their arrogance will be their undoing.
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And that's what we're seeing right now. They are so arrogant. They're so, they so believe that they
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are in the majority because of the media and everything else, that they're not afraid to say
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anything. And they're saying the craziest damn stuff and Americans are waking up.
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Hi, it's Glenn. If you're a subscriber to the podcast, can you do us a favor and rate us on
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iTunes. Thanks. I want to introduce you to an amazing, amazing couple. They have just been named
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the hottest event keynote speakers of 2018. And that includes, you know, the likes of Mark Cuban
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and Barbara Cochran and Magic Johnson and everybody else you can think of. They are motivational
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speakers, I guess, but really the motivation I think just comes from the way they live their life.
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Chris Norton, Emily Norton, author of The Seven Longest Yards. Welcome to the program. How are you?
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So anybody who doesn't know you, tell me what the seven longest yards are.
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Yeah. So the seven longest yards, it came from this goal that I set that I'm going to walk
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Emily seven yards down the aisle of our wedding side by side, which, you know, listening, you probably
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think that should be easy. Well, in 2010, as a 18 year old kid, I was playing college football and I was
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running down to make the tackle and I see the opening, just a routine tackle, but I mistimed my jump
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just by a split second. And so instead of getting my head in front of the ball carrier, my head collides
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right with his legs. And instantly I lose all feeling and movement from my neck down. And I was
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given a 3% chance to ever regain any feeling or movement back below the neck after suffering a
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severe spinal cord injury, which I, at the time I felt like my life was over. And eventually it, you know,
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it led to meeting Emily and then setting this goal that we're going to walk down the aisle for a
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wedding. And actually the walk down the aisle ended up being the easiest part of our journey.
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And your journey, you guys met three years after, right? And, um, you went through some dark times
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Yeah. So after college, I went through a dark time of depression and suffering with anxiety
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and, um, I've always had just a big passion and a heart for helping kids, kids who have been abused,
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neglected, um, without families, just had this big passion for kids in foster care and struggling
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with those things. So I always took that on my own shoulders and had this responsibility that it was my
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responsibility to help these kids. And instead of letting it out, I kept it in. Um, and it really wore
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on me. I started not caring as much, stopped feeling, um, and just started losing me. Uh,
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honestly, I thought I would never be me again. Like I thought I was gone. Emily was gone forever.
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Um, no hope. And I suffered for way longer than I should have, because I was very against getting
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help. I felt like I had to do it myself. Um, very independent. Uh, felt like if I got help,
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that that was weakness and that it's crazy. When you change that one viewpoint,
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that it is a strength to ask for help, not weakness, everything changes. Yeah, that's exactly
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what it was. Being able to just come to that realization that you have to ask for help,
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but you have to depend on God. There's nothing wrong with that. And it does, it takes more
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strength to ask for help and admit like something's going on and it shouldn't be. Um, but another thing
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that was holding me back from help was I didn't think that I could be depressed. Why would I be
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depressed? Never gone through anything difficult. Right. So I didn't understand at all. Um,
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I understood that other people who went through hard things could get depressed, but for me,
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like I had this, there's no way that doesn't make sense. Um, so I just kept pushing through
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it and, um, don't like being vulnerable. And so I shoved it all inside all of the things
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that just create a disaster and so much more struggles than I should have been. And it lasted
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for a few years because of those views. And where were you in that recovery when you,
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when you two met online? Yeah. So, I mean, so that was before any of this started. Um,
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I was at a really good place when we met online and it was actually right after the graduation walk
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that it really hit me. Um, I had some signs before, but we stayed so busy with working hard
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and focusing on the graduation walk. But after the graduation walk and after it went viral,
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when everything was going so great, it just, I went down and I hit the, hit the bottom with where I was at.
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Tell me about the graduation walk. Yeah. So this was the first big goal of mine. After
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my injury, I set the goal. I want to walk across the stage on my college graduation.
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Didn't know how I was going to do it, but I was going to work as hard as I possibly could
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each and every day. And I told Emily about this goal when we first met and she
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was just as excited as this goal as I was. And, uh, she became my personal trainer, my,
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my best personal trainer that I've ever had. And, uh, uh, we just worked relentlessly
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for this walk across the stage, which I thought in my mind, I got to walk as fast as I can.
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So I don't get booed off the stage and people are like checking the clock. Like it's hot in the gym,
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like graduations are long. And I'm like, Oh man, I gotta, I gotta book it across there.
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And so when I, we start going across the stage, um, this a roar of just cheering and, um, clapping.
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And then I finally get across and I look out and the whole room, they're just, everyone's crying.
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I just couldn't believe the reaction, the response. And then eventually that video goes viral and it
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just takes people are still crying every time they see it. I'm about crying with just hearing you
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saying, um, now, so you guys didn't just get through your own little struggles. You have taken
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17, how old are you? 26, 27, 27, 27. You have had 17 foster kids and adopted five. Yes, we have.
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The hell is wrong with you? Yeah. Five girls. You really haven't recovered from hating that guy's
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leg. No, I haven't. Maybe I had a brain injury too. 17 and adopted five. We have. Yeah. It's,
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we love it. And I mean, when we first started, we're like, we'll take one kid and got a different
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plan and kept stretching us. And it is absolutely, it's become both of our passions. And we love just
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being able to help kids in these hard situations. No, they're loved. They're special. God has an
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amazing plan. Um, and it takes a lot of work. There's a lot of hard moments, but when you can
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just stay there and show the kids are not alone. So many of the struggles I went through helped me to
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know how to, to help the kids and to how to be there, um, so that they don't feel alone. And
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when they're trying to push you away to push back harder, uh, but it's been absolutely amazing.
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I have, I have a 15 year old son who I'm having a heck of a time with right now. And it is,
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it's the hardest thing I've ever done is raise my son. Uh, and just no matter how hard he pushes
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back to be there, that's one. And look at me, I'm 23. I mean, it's insane. How do you,
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how do you push through it with 17 and five now adopted?
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You know, Emily's like one woman without the cape. Like she just like, the more kids we get,
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the more energy she has. Like, I don't know how she does it, but I mean, I'll never forget the first
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time. She's like, when we say like, Hey, one child, like under the age of two. And she's like,
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Chris, what about two? I'm like kids. I'm like, no way we can do two kids. That's insane. And then
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eventually worked our way up to seven. But, um, you just like, I mean, you take on more than what
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you think you can handle. That's when you can realize your potential. And so we just keep finding
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out that the more we take on, you just figure it out and you just do it.
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Yeah. And I mean, I would say a big thing too, is not taking it on your shoulders. What I learned
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when I went through the depression, like I learned to depend on God and put everything
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on him instead of keeping it on myself because you have to meet the kids where they are, but
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then did not let it bring you down. But instead like feel enough where you can still get into
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action and do every single thing you can every single day and let go of what's out of your
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control. There's so much out of your control. So, um, just knowing and focusing on what we
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can do and letting the rest go has been very, very helpful to be able to do it.
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Have you, have you guys, have you, I want to phrase this carefully. Um, have you guys
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failed in ways that you would have described as a failure 10 years ago and been able to walk away
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going, we did everything we could and that's a success.
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Yeah. I mean, I would say that there's been moments where you feel like we would have previously
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felt like, you know, we're failing. Um, but you just, when you do absolutely everything
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you can do and you focus on that and change your perspective to that, um, it really helps
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a lot to know. Um, because obviously some of the kids that we've had in our home have had
00:23:40.180
a lot of behavioral problems and we've seen transformations, but then there's other times
00:23:44.020
that you wish you could do more. You wish that you could change more.
00:23:46.760
Do you get to a point to where you're like, I don't know. I've done everything. I know how
00:23:52.000
I don't know what else to do. Yes. You get to that, you get to that point, but what's kind
00:23:59.260
of special too, when you stay after it and you stay persistent, uh, like in that moment of like,
00:24:05.100
nothing's working, like we're failing. And then it's like months later, the kid or the child will
00:24:10.000
refer to something that you said months ago that you thought they weren't getting at all. Like
00:24:15.200
nothing that you were saying what's registering. And then they apply something that you were
00:24:20.220
trying to teach them months later. And you see little moments like that, that you can see the
00:24:25.860
progress and you just focus on that progress and just chipping away at it because it's not
00:24:32.380
an overnight thing. Like it's not something that you snap your fingers and all the abuse and trauma
00:24:38.760
that they experienced and all the wiring that they've undergone is just gone. It takes a lot of time,
00:24:44.900
a lot of moments. I will tell you, I'm in my fifties. Uh, even though I look 22, uh, and I, uh,
00:24:54.200
you don't need to laugh at that. Uh, or is it 72? And, uh, uh, I still struggle for wisdom and I'm
00:25:05.080
listening to you too with such deep wisdom that really comes. You can't read wisdom in a book. You can read
00:25:14.180
it in a book, but that's not where it comes from. It comes from you actually experiencing it. Do you
00:25:19.820
think you would be anywhere close to who you are or where you are? Had it not been for your accident
00:25:28.140
and your deep depression? No, absolutely not. There's no way that I would be able to be a foster
00:25:33.340
parent. We've heard most unimaginable things with these kids and what they've gone through.
00:25:37.280
And previously with how I was able to cope with that, I mean, honestly, it sent me into the
00:25:41.780
depression and I couldn't handle it. And so now I know exactly how to handle, I know how to let go
00:25:48.060
of what's out of your control and don't get me wrong. There are moments that I don't like anybody.
00:25:52.620
Um, and it's a battle. You just have to battle it. You have to fight it. And you just have to keep
00:25:56.000
remembering that, um, if you do what you can do as best as you know how and work every day, um,
00:26:02.600
things do start changing and turning around. Yeah. And now for me, like if I could go back and
00:26:08.140
change that play that paralyzed me, I wouldn't do it because I found a life and a purpose worth
00:26:13.700
living for. And I can see and use my pain for a purpose. And it gives me life and, um, inspiration
00:26:20.720
knowing that my struggles can help somebody else through their own pain and struggles.
00:26:26.760
You two are remarkable. You're truly remarkable. And, um, as a man who has, um, hit, uh, lows
00:26:45.080
and has been blessed by a good wife, you're a great woman and you are greatly blessed.
00:26:56.300
You are greatly blessed and vice versa, vice versa. She's wet on my leg.
00:27:03.920
Yeah. I think, uh, good women usually are out of, out of our league. Um, thank you so much.
00:27:09.960
Thank you so much for being here. Yeah. Thanks for having us. How can we follow you? How can
00:27:14.160
we follow your adventures? Um, well, I know, uh, Instagram, Facebook, you know, we have our book
00:27:19.540
coming out, the seven longest yards, um, which shares our struggles and our journey, but, you know,
00:27:24.860
Instagram, Chris, a Norton 16 is a great way to follow me. And that's my handle all across
00:27:29.780
social media. Chris Norton.org is my website. Yeah. And then mine for Instagram and Facebook
00:27:35.320
is Emily Summers Norton. And we do, we try to like, our life purpose is just to help people
00:27:40.080
realize like, you're not alone. Like everybody goes through hard things. So many people have
00:27:43.920
looked at me and thought I've had everything together. Like so many comments of you're perfect.
00:27:48.240
There's nothing going on. And I hit everything. And you have no idea what someone else is going
00:27:53.000
through. Chris, you see his challenges. He's in a wheelchair. Every single one of us struggles.
00:27:57.900
Every single one of us hits those low points. And what it's about is just fighting to get out of it
00:28:02.320
and knowing it's a strength to get help. Like you said, everyone is in their own wheelchair. Just
00:28:07.660
most of ours are invisible. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and when I found this out, when I was an
00:28:13.160
alcoholic, I, I hid everything. I was very good functioning alcoholic. And I said things on the
00:28:20.820
radio that I thought were going to destroy my career. Cause I was, I was done with radio. I'd
00:28:25.260
done it for 20 years and I was done with it. It's back in the nineties. And I said the worst things
00:28:30.560
about me. Cause I was viewed as this, you know, clean cut kind of guy and I was anything but,
00:28:36.200
and I exposed who I was and what I was struggling with and the opposite happened. I realized the more
00:28:46.820
we're honest with each other, the more we tell, the more we realize I could disagree with you on
00:28:53.620
everything, but we are exactly alike. We are exactly alike. Oh yeah. I'm privileged to people to see my
00:29:00.460
challenges. People are kind and so helpful to me because they see what I'm going through and
00:29:06.060
I appreciate that, but we can do that to everyone. Yeah. And all the challenges that we're facing
00:29:10.640
would be a better world. Chris and Emily Norton, um, the Chris Norton, uh, foundation,
00:29:17.540
chrisnorton.org. And the book is the seven longest yards you can pre-order now. Thank you guys so
00:29:24.220
much for being here. Thank you for having me. God bless. Thank you. Yeah. God bless.
00:29:32.100
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:29:36.060
Hey, it's Glenn. And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray
00:29:41.980
Unleashed. His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast. Jason, uh,
00:29:47.820
who is, uh, with us now and, uh, our head researcher. I want to talk to you a little bit
00:29:53.820
about Europe and China, but also a little bit about Mueller and what he's going to say here in
00:29:58.300
about 30 minutes on this, uh, report. It seems to me, Jason, that this is nothing but a circus
00:30:06.280
and a sideshow. Uh, nobody's really honestly looking for the truth in anything because the truth is
00:30:14.620
Russia tried to meddle and did meddle with our election and they'll do it again. And nobody's
00:30:21.540
talking about that. We're just talking about impeachment, which has no chance of going
00:30:26.340
anywhere. It, the house can vote for impeachment. Good for them. Then it goes to the Senate. Do you
00:30:32.780
think they're going to pick it up? No. And who's going to suffer at the, at the, uh, at election time,
00:30:39.280
the Republicans and Donald Trump or the Democrats, the Democrats will pay the price for this.
00:30:46.620
Yeah. That that's from a, from a former member of the intelligence community. That is, that's
00:30:50.700
really the tragedy of this entire thing. Like we know what Russia did. It's very detailed. The,
00:30:55.500
the report that they released on how they were, they messed with our election, how they hacked,
00:30:59.620
uh, major, you know, party, uh, organizations, DNC and everything. There's no question.
00:31:04.380
You imagine what the, what the NSA and CIA have on this, that we, for the amount of stuff that we
00:31:12.060
know at our level, and we were talking about three, four years ago before any of this was in the public
00:31:19.500
sphere, we found it on YouTube, uh, where they're admitting what they were going to do. Imagine what
00:31:26.680
the federal government has and they're not talking about it. Yeah. I mean, we don't know that that's
00:31:30.860
really where the, where the oversight should be right now. It shouldn't be talking about the
00:31:34.120
stupid crap they're talking about now. It should be, wait a minute. Like the house intelligence
00:31:37.580
committee should be like, so are we identifying what went wrong and are, have we hardened ourselves
00:31:42.400
against this in the future? What about all the States? We have an election coming up in a mere
00:31:46.320
matter of months. Why are we not doing something? Are we doing something hard? What are we doing?
00:31:52.540
When the president said the other day that we had to go to Mars because space was the most important
00:31:58.120
defense thing we could do right now. I disagree. I think the most important thing we can do
00:32:03.240
is harden our intelligence network and our information network and our, our election network. Uh, we are,
00:32:11.860
we are prime for hacking. And if we are hacked, we're the worst, we, we end up being in the worst
00:32:20.260
shape because we are the first, first world. When something does work, when we don't have electricity,
00:32:25.800
when we don't have power, when we don't even have air conditioning, we go to hell fast.
00:32:30.900
China doesn't go to hell that fast because their people are already living a lot like the stone
00:32:36.460
age. Yeah. Yeah. The, the, the, we are in a new nuclear, like basically arms race right now. This
00:32:42.360
is the new, like before it was actual nuclear weapons right now. It's, it's different types
00:32:46.580
of tech. Uh, you mentioned China, 5g, uh, rollouts. Um, that is crucial right now. And China's destroying
00:32:52.860
us in that AI, uh, right now we should be having, there should be a Manhattan project for artificial
00:32:57.340
intelligence scientists all over the world. I've been saying that for years. That should be the
00:33:00.800
immigration center right now. Last week, last week, um, Samsung released this Mona Lisa project.
00:33:08.420
Did you guys see this? We talked about it last night. Yeah. So making the Mona Lisa move and talk.
00:33:13.960
Okay. It's a painting, making it come to life and speak, and they can do it with any picture
00:33:21.080
that most people didn't realize that was announced at Samsung AI Moscow. Wow. Okay. That's significant
00:33:32.280
that that is, that's a deep fake territory. That's deep fake central. And we're not talking about it.
00:33:41.700
Yeah. Um, Russia actually has a hacking convention every year where they invite all the best hackers
00:33:48.660
and computer scientists into like one central location. I think it's in St. Petersburg and they
00:33:53.240
give them a task. They, and the tasks are all military. This is frightening. Have you ever, ever
00:33:57.140
heard about this? They give them a task that's specific to attacking another nation state. So
00:34:01.500
they'll be like, there's a power plant. You have 30 minutes to break into it. What do you do?
00:34:06.540
Are you have 30 minutes to crash it and make it explode? We're not doing any of that. I, I,
00:34:11.480
at least that I know of, I hope we are, but I don't think we're doing any of that.
00:34:14.980
Well, we did find out that the NSA did have this tool that's now kind of biting us because it was
00:34:20.160
leaked, but they had a tool that could break into basically every Microsoft computer for several
00:34:24.820
years and never reported it to Microsoft because they liked using it. Of course. And once it leaked
00:34:31.940
and now other countries were using it against us, they did go to Microsoft. It's been patched now,
00:34:35.840
but these, these, whatever computer isn't patched can still be hit by it. Point being though,
00:34:40.020
they got a lot of tools. I mean, the NSA has a lot of tools. I know. And I hope we do. I hope we
00:34:44.440
are. I mean, we are in the, we're in the Sputnik time period now for technology and whoever gets to
00:34:52.660
the moon first dominates, dominates. And, uh, and I hope to God that it it's us. China is not screwing
00:35:00.720
around now. And, and I think, Jason, I think we have gotten this China thing right from the
00:35:07.720
beginning. Uh, we have said it's about 5g. It's about hacking into our, uh, into our businesses
00:35:17.080
and our inventions here. It's about our companies giving away their intellectual property for free
00:35:24.260
to China. Uh, it's about unfair practices, uh, that China is doing and, and China 2025. This is
00:35:33.040
a serious issue. And this is a transformative economy that we're about to see. We talk about
00:35:37.860
how there's been going to be massive shifts. They're moving away from, you know, creating small,
00:35:42.500
like a little stupid little products, you know, that they used to sell off to us. And we still buy
00:35:46.040
via Amazon. It takes about two months for them to actually get here to go through customs. Um,
00:35:49.960
but they're moving away from that, but the entire world is really moving away from that. It's
00:35:53.060
going more towards services. Remember like Apple now is like, they're like crud. We're not making
00:35:57.500
as much money on phones anymore. Now they're looking at opening up like, you know, like Apple
00:36:01.640
TV, doing stuff like that, other services, it's moving in tech services. That's the direction.
00:36:06.840
And China saw this coming from a lot. Why do you think they're, they're trying to expand their 5g
00:36:10.800
network all over the world? Because they want to be the ones dominating that. So do you want the
00:36:14.900
country to dominate the flow of information all over the world? And this is what, this is what
00:36:19.260
this is really about. The flow of information all over the world. This is the same country
00:36:22.980
that is doing a, uh, social credit system amongst their citizens. It's, it's the biggest police
00:36:28.860
state in the world right now. It's there. It's the biggest slave state in the world right now.
00:36:35.180
Right. It is. It's an abomination. It is. This is the situation that in a hundred years from now,
00:36:42.640
our great grandchildren will all say, you know what? Our great grandfathers and grandmothers,
00:36:48.740
they were just awful people. They didn't care about the slaves in China. They did nothing about
00:36:55.320
it. We're dealing exactly with the same kind of things that our founders were dealing with.
00:37:02.700
And they looked at business and said, well, it'll work itself out. Let's just go to war when we have
00:37:09.380
to, let's do these things that we have to do. And it'll work itself out. It, it will work itself out.
00:37:15.260
And I think with China, it's going to work itself out with, with war.
00:37:19.880
Yeah. You can't look at company. Like I've heard a lot of people say, look, it's, they're just tech
00:37:23.700
companies in China and they're competing. You cannot look at tech companies in China versus the
00:37:27.860
same as like tech companies in the rest of the world, especially not here in the United States.
00:37:31.180
Let's take for instance, Huawei. So Huawei, we did, we delivered a huge blow to Huawei. They're trying,
00:37:36.060
they're leading the push on 5g right now. Um, the Trump administration just, uh, said, look,
00:37:41.340
any U S company cannot do business with Huawei, which is a huge deal for Huawei because their
00:37:45.960
phones, which is probably the number two largest, uh, phone company in the world. Now, um, they all
00:37:51.660
use Google. So now they can't use Google anymore. So they're like, Oh crud, what do we do? They're
00:37:56.140
also making a push to lead in and like laptop and computer production. Now they can't use Microsoft.
00:38:01.860
So now they're kind of screwed. Now the history of Huawei is pretty interesting and see, and this
00:38:07.080
kind of goes into how these Chinese companies operate. The only reason Huawei is a thing right
00:38:11.700
now is because they stole the source code from U S companies that moved into China right after,
00:38:16.620
you know, the, uh, their introduction into the world trade organization, they stole the source code,
00:38:22.100
stole the source code, then copied whatever, all the, all the other technical, you know, all the other,
00:38:27.040
uh, you know, uh, like how to build certain phones and stuff from, from U S companies. Then they
00:38:31.680
created a clone company of U S companies that, that person, there's their CEO was a former
00:38:37.020
intelligence guy in the China, uh, people's Republic of China military. Um, his job was to
00:38:41.860
procure technology. That was his entire job. Then he becomes the CEO. He was also a communist
00:38:46.700
party member. Now this is the guy that stole the source code now has the second largest phone
00:38:50.360
company in the world. If you're a flagship company in China, there is a, an official communist
00:38:55.740
party office located right next to the CEO's office. Basically they're co-located with the
00:39:01.360
company. A Huawei is China, Chinese government, the CCP, the China, Chinese communist party.
00:39:08.780
That's them. All their flagship companies are the same way. So if you're looking at, well,
00:39:12.240
this is just Huawei trying to like, you know, you know, uh, dominate 5g. No, it's the Chinese
00:39:17.200
communist party in China. It's China 2025, which was a communist goal set out in 2006, somewhere in
00:39:26.420
that area of where China would be in at China 2025 in the year 2025, we are going to dominate the world
00:39:35.880
and the world's information. And Donald Trump is putting a stop to it with this trade war. It's the
00:39:43.500
only thing that makes sense because of the moves we're making. It don't, it's the only thing that
00:39:48.860
makes sense because people like Larry Kudlow and, uh, and, um, uh, more Stephen Moore are for this.
00:39:57.180
And when I've talked to Stephen Moore, he has said, China is different. And, and he's right.
00:40:02.960
China is different. This is, this is you. I flip flopped as you know, probably Stu on this multiple
00:40:08.860
times. Cause I just don't know, like I am against tariffs as well. Yeah. But when you think about
00:40:13.020
China, it's a different animal. Like, I don't know how else are you going? What other level are you
00:40:16.940
levering? You have to stop them taking all of our stuff. It's interesting though. Why is the
00:40:23.860
answer to them stealing our technology attacks on us? Why, why do we get, why do we have to pay
00:40:30.440
the penalty for the, for the, the transfer of technology to them? Because that seems like
00:40:34.900
something they're doing wrong. It's not something like something that I'm doing wrong yet. I'm the
00:40:38.160
one who has to pay all the higher prices. Right. But I don't think you can stop this with the
00:40:43.300
American corporations because they want that. They'll sell their country out. We, we know
00:40:50.220
that Facebook, Google, they'll sell us out in a heartbeat. They just, they don't care. And
00:40:55.480
they're already working with China on really bad things. So for the country to say we have
00:41:01.160
a trade war and Oh, by the way, you cannot do business with this company, this company,
00:41:05.980
this company, that's the next level. This level is, Oh, Apple, you want to do that? Okay,
00:41:12.000
go ahead. It's going to cost you 25% more. And so they do pass it onto us. But I think
00:41:17.540
hitting these corporations where they live on the bottom line is the only way you're going
00:41:25.360
The Huawei situation seems to be a more, a more direct way of addressing this though. Right.
00:41:30.800
I mean, like you're, they're going after them because they've done, they've committed what
00:41:35.060
we view as, you know, international crimes basically. Uh, in some cases, almost acts of
00:41:40.520
war. Like, I mean, it's really serious, but like to add, because of, of those types of
00:41:46.840
things to add a 20, 25% tax that I have to pay on goods from many times companies completely
00:41:54.440
unrelated to them is a, is a, is a, it's a very indirect broad sort of like blunt force
00:42:01.160
thing that punishes American citizens, uh, for crimes that China commits. So here's what
00:42:06.360
I think actually happened. Uh, Larry Kudlow, Stephen Moore, uh, and, uh, John Bolton. They
00:42:13.240
all know, they all know what China really is. Does Donald Trump know what China really is?
00:42:17.880
I don't know. I don't know. I think, I mean, I think he, he takes them. He knows they're a
00:42:22.280
serious threat. He knows they're a serious threat. Is he the architect of this? No, I think what
00:42:28.060
he's the architect of is a trade war. He loves tariffs. And so the people in the administration
00:42:33.940
that he surrounded himself with said, okay, you know what? There's some good that we can make
00:42:38.520
happen out of these tariffs because nobody's been willing to take them on. He'll take them on under
00:42:44.120
the guise of tariffs. So let's solve the Huawei stuff. Let's solve some of these things by using
00:42:51.000
tariffs. I think it was their way in using something that Donald Trump understands how to
00:42:57.340
use and really loves. Yeah. I think that's, I mean, I think that's, I think they're making the
00:43:01.160
best of a situation. I think so too. They don't prefer. Right. But it's not just, it's, you know,
00:43:05.700
Larry Kudlow is very friendly to free trade economics. Correct. It's been that way for a long
00:43:10.000
time, but the people he has like Wilbur Ross and, and Lighthizer, and I mean, these people are not,
00:43:16.200
they're, they're the exact opposite. I mean, they want to do this, whether China is good or bad,
00:43:20.300
which is why you saw, you know, tons of our, our allies getting hit with these big tariffs as
00:43:25.960
well. This is not just a China situation. It's a, it's a broad strategy by the president,
00:43:30.940
but which by the way, he ran on. I mean, it was, it was a big, you know, big priority.
00:43:34.780
What were some of the things that we were told off air by people who were very pro Trump during the
00:43:40.880
election? I'm glad I want you to know, I got several calls like this from people. I am not for
00:43:47.060
Trump. I just want you to know, I am with you 100% away, but I am not going down the road.
00:43:51.160
You're going down because somebody has to be in his inner circle because we have to be able to
00:43:58.420
use the things that he believes in and his bully pulpit and move us in the right direction. And
00:44:05.220
with, with that, not, not in a usurping sort of way, exactly what Larry Kudlow said, he talked to
00:44:11.640
the president and was like, no, I'm not, I wouldn't join you because you're for trade, trade war.
00:44:16.220
Then he said something to him for 20 minutes. And Larry was like, I'm in. What could that have been?
00:44:22.620
Larry, this is what I want. What do you want? Well, I think China is a danger. Good. Do those things.
00:44:29.200
I want this done. I want a better deal with China. You want to hurt China and this way and get that
00:44:35.320
done. I think we can do both. To me, that's what would make somebody like Larry Kudlow go,
00:44:57.420
And I will close by reiterating the central allegation of our indictments that there were
00:45:02.900
multiple systematic efforts to interfere in our election. And that allegation deserves
00:45:10.500
the attention of every American. Thank you. Thank you for being here today.
00:45:15.200
So I think that he said some really interesting things. Let me just recap here quickly. WikiLeaks
00:45:22.360
tried to influence Russia, tried to influence. They timed the releases and hacked into things
00:45:28.460
and released it to influence our election. Private businesses in Russia also tried to influence.
00:45:35.500
They did interfere. However, we also looked into obstruction because anybody who was trying to
00:45:44.500
obstruct us looking into where our elections free and fair, we needed to look into. So if there was an
00:45:51.760
accusation, we looked into it. He says part one of his report was about the numerous attempts that did
00:45:59.480
happen by Russia. But there was insufficient evidence to prove a crime when it came to the president or anyone
00:46:07.720
around the president. He said, if we would have if we would have known for sure that the president did not
00:46:14.620
commit a crime, we would have said so. Now, he didn't say if he did commit a crime, we would have said so
00:46:22.400
because what followed, I thought was really interesting. He said it would be it would be
00:46:30.480
inappropriate. And it would be a process beyond justice if we accused and no court could try.
00:46:41.400
So he said it would be wrong and unjust if we made an accusation that, yeah, we think this guy
00:46:48.860
committed a crime, but no court could try it because he's the president of the United States
00:46:54.600
and it's unconstitutional, he said, to charge a president with a crime, a sitting president.
00:47:01.620
So he said we couldn't charge him with a crime if we found a crime. Now, he didn't say they found a crime,
00:47:09.160
but he also said that they didn't find him innocent of any crime. So you're kind of left in this
00:47:19.140
middle ground. And what he is saying here is there's another judge and jury. And that judge and jury is
00:47:27.180
the American people through the impeachment process, because we can't go through the Justice Department.
00:47:33.860
We did what we were supposed to do. And I have nothing further to say on this. There's nothing
00:47:40.340
that we're hiding. There's nothing that the AG has held back. He endorsed Bob Barr saying he thought he
00:47:48.300
was fair. I do not question Bob Barr. And he said my testimony, any testimony from anybody on my team,
00:47:57.800
including me, will not go further than the report that is already public. So you're kind of left
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with, well, wait, you didn't find anything. But you're, you're kind of saying that if there was
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something, we wouldn't have, we wouldn't have said we should, it's a crime because it's unjust to
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accuse him of a crime. So was there a crime? Yeah, because I think what the media is going to take out of
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that section, which I think was one of the most important sections is him saying, look, we were
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prevented from charging him. However, you do have a way to follow up on this. Yes. And in the media is
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going to translate that as him basically giving a roadmap to what Congress should do next, which is
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impeachment. That is what how I think people are going to take that in the media and on the left.
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But my question is, you impeach him, you just had a grand jury. And so you know, when a grand jury does
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an investigation, they do all of this, you issue an indictment, this person committed a crime because
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of these things. Well, he's just said, there's no other information for us to give, we've given you
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all information. Well, we've all read that information with an exception of just a few tidbits
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that don't seem like they're bombshells. Okay, hidden behind those black bars. They're just
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names to protect Roger Stone stuff, basically. Correct. Okay. So he's he's sending two signals.
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One, there is a way if you think the president committed a crime, you have to do it through
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impeachment. But two, you if you're going to interview any of us on the team, we're all going
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to say the same thing. Everything we have is in that report. Well, there, there is this weird line
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in there of if we if he had committed a crime, we couldn't have said anything. And if we knew he
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didn't commit a crime, was it? What did he say in the report? If if he if he if we if he was innocent,
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we would have said so we would have said so basically, if we could have proved his innocence,
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we would have said so. But like you said, on the other hand, if he would have been guilty, we wouldn't
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have said so. Right. So it kind of helps nobody. It helps nobody. And it certainly doesn't help
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Trump. Because if we have all of the information, well, then where's the crime? What is the crime?
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Right. What they're saying is the heat, there's a way to take this, right? And I think the left will
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take it this way. Certainly, the Ocasio-Cortez's of the world will take it this way, which is saying
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he can't say that there's a crime that has been committed. However, he believes there is a crime
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that has been committed and you should go and impeach him for it, because that's the only way
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he can be punished for that crime. But what is the crime? Well, he's it's all he's saying it's all
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there. This is a crime where you see it. You read the report. And to be clear, I don't I'm not saying
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this, but I'm saying the left will will be making this argument, which is there are a lot of examples
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of things that we could say were obstruction of justice. You know, that the, you know,
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mislead, you know, him asking for Mueller to be fired and and and not. Well, I mean, I know,
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I know. I know you can look at it that way. And I mean, I think it's no smoking gun. This is this
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is something that if you know, I read it. If this is all the information, which he just said,
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we have no other information. It's all out there. It's all out there. OK, well, it's all out there.
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Well, I don't see anything that is a smoking gun. You could look at certain things and go,
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yeah, that was not good. And that probably was maybe that skirt. But there's no smoking gun on
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anything. And so what you're doing now is saying we couldn't prosecute and bring to a court of law.
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But I honestly don't see even if you could, we've all now seen all of the information. Right. And
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I don't I wouldn't if I'm a attorney general, I'm not bringing that to a courtroom.
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Even if a constitutionally I could. I don't think you have a strong enough case.
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You know, we're beyond a reasonable doubt. No way. Democrats won't mind that, though.
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No, do it anyway. No, I know because of their sheer hatred for him.
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But I think they will pay a heavier price for it. It's possible. I mean, I think there's a good
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argument to be made, though, on the other side is what Mueller is basically saying with his press
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conference is, look, I did my job. I got nothing else for you. Leave me alone. Yeah. You see what
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you see what's sitting there. If you think it's enough, go for impeachment. But stop bugging me.
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Yeah, I think that's exactly a fair reading of where he is. And that's probably why he he did
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this press conference. Yeah, right. I will say the bar thing was that maybe the biggest moment in there
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because Mueller saying that he he believes Barr was acting in good faith with what he did with
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the letter is a huge part of the story, because the main point of evidence that the Democrats had
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against against Barr was to say that Mueller wrote this letter and he said, I want you to release more
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and you're not doing this. And they tried to make it out like Mueller was really pissed off.
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Now, as you see in that press conference, Mueller is telling you he's not pissed off about it.
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Quote, I do not question Bob Barr. That's big. That's huge. Huge. Huge. The problem is after two
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years, we want something definitive. Yeah. Give us definitive and we just don't have it. And we have
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definitive on the collusion on collusion. Yeah. And we have that would have been the crime. Right. And
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we have definitive on Russia and WikiLeaks. We have all this evidence. There's no evidence. There's
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just this like, well, maybe I don't know. I guess you could read it that way. But you don't put people
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in jail for that. And you don't take away the presidency for that. There's no smoking gun. As he
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