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00:00:00.000 Hey, podcasters, we have a great podcast for you today.

00:00:04.460 First, we start with kind of a look at the past 2008.

00:00:10.680 Man, Obama had huge crowds.

00:00:12.720 2016, Trump had huge crowds.

00:00:15.760 Trump in 2020, apparently huge crowds.

00:00:19.900 You know what's strange?

00:00:21.640 Obama in 2012, not so much.

00:00:24.200 What is it that is fueling Trump?

00:00:30.180 And do the Democrats have anything to stand against that machine?

00:00:36.640 We talk about that.

00:00:37.860 Also, kind of have to take AOC out to the woodshed.

00:00:42.820 I tried to contain myself.

00:00:46.040 You know, she's taken a rake to the face more than once. 1.00

00:00:49.980 I think she might have been born in a rake factory, and it started when she took her 0.85

00:00:55.360 first few steps, and those rakes have been hitting her in the face until she just doesn't know 0.63

00:00:59.660 what truth is anymore.

00:01:01.520 I try to explain it to her on today's program.

00:01:05.040 Plus, an amazing woman's story about recovery. 0.60

00:01:09.180 David Barton with some facts you've never heard about, the American slave trade as we

00:01:15.680 get ready for our museum, and so much more, all on today's podcast.

00:01:27.560 You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:31.520 So last night, I saw Donald Trump's rally, and I just saw the pictures of Donald Trump's

00:01:48.320 rally, and I thought, wow.

00:01:52.720 Now, I want to take you through, and I'm going to describe these, but if you're a subscriber

00:01:57.360 to the blaze, this is the time you're going to really appreciate your subscription, because

00:02:03.040 I want you to see these pictures, but I'll describe them if you're just listening to us

00:02:06.500 on radio.

00:02:08.280 Here is a picture that I had no problem finding at all, no problem finding, from 2008.

00:02:18.060 This is Barack Obama during his election, okay?

00:02:23.580 We all remember this.

00:02:25.560 I think this one is up in, I think this is Wisconsin.

00:02:29.740 I could be wrong.

00:02:30.560 I think this is Madison.

00:02:31.700 There's a lot of people there.

00:02:32.660 I mean, there's a big turnout.

00:02:33.760 A lot of people.

00:02:34.300 Mm-hmm.

00:02:34.920 A lot of people, okay?

00:02:36.600 We remember that, right?

00:02:39.220 Now, if you remember, he had massive crowds in 2008 when he was first elected, when he first

00:02:47.700 was running massive crowds, then what happened?

00:02:53.260 Let me go to picture number two.

00:02:54.840 Now, Google did not help me find any of these.

00:02:58.240 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:02:58.780 This is, these are the, this is the Trump rallies, okay, from 2016.

00:03:06.000 And you'll see a lot of people, right?

00:03:08.440 Same kind of picture, is it not, Stu?

00:03:10.260 Yeah, gigantic crowds in multiple venues, you know, all over the country.

00:03:13.540 Multiple venues, right?

00:03:15.140 And so we know that Obama had them in 08, and we know that Trump had them in 2016.

00:03:22.280 Now, let's go back and see what happened after four years of Obama.

00:03:28.020 How was the health of, of Obama's coalition?

00:03:34.140 Here's the next picture.

00:03:36.680 Now, you could, you could say that this is, this is, this stadium is, you know, half full.

00:03:42.820 Now, I would say it's half empty.

00:03:45.140 In fact, I would say it's more than half empty, because you'll see they curtained off the other

00:03:49.640 part of the, of the arena.

00:03:53.280 So they're not even used, they're using a quarter of the arena, and only about, what would you

00:03:57.740 say, a quarter of it is full?

00:04:00.440 Half of it is full?

00:04:01.340 Maybe half, but I think it's less than half, yeah.

00:04:03.960 I mean, and that's half of a quarter, we should say.

00:04:07.700 So we're at an eighth.

00:04:08.480 Yes, half of a quarter of an arena, okay?

00:04:10.900 So if you remember, he started doing these things, and he was like, oh boy, we're in

00:04:15.240 trouble.

00:04:15.600 And so he scaled it back.

00:04:17.020 Here's the next photo.

00:04:18.560 Again, you're not going to find these on Google.

00:04:20.760 Oh, look it.

00:04:22.380 We really should stop doing arenas, because this one is more than half empty of a quarter.

00:04:29.400 Next one.

00:04:31.000 So let's scale them back.

00:04:32.620 Let's start doing public parks.

00:04:34.880 I'll be under a gazebo.

00:04:36.340 If you see this picture, there's probably, I'm going to be generous and say 400 people

00:04:42.680 there.

00:04:43.700 But you see on the other side of the gazebo, there's nobody.

00:04:47.440 There's nobody around.

00:04:48.840 It's not like people are, you know, really straining to see him.

00:04:52.140 You're right up next to him in a gazebo.

00:04:55.260 Next one.

00:04:56.040 Oh, he started to put a mariachi band out front as people were gathering.

00:05:05.660 This is shortly before President Obama, in his re-election campaign, came into the room,

00:05:12.540 and they had a mariachi band.

00:05:16.400 And even that wouldn't attract anybody.

00:05:19.300 Next.

00:05:19.620 This is Donald Trump last night.

00:05:25.600 This is Donald Trump last night.

00:05:28.280 It looks a little like what Donald Trump had in 2016.

00:05:33.940 Now you tell me that Joe Biden can attract that.

00:05:39.060 You tell me that Joe Biden has any of that fervor.

00:05:45.100 In fact, I'll go a step further.

00:05:46.520 You have, with Joe Biden, a situation that I think is going to rapidly decay.

00:05:53.300 I don't know if you've heard the latest on Joe Biden, but from the Washington Post,

00:06:01.940 Joe Biden wistfully recalled on Tuesday an era in which he was able to get along with segregationist

00:06:08.460 senators, even though they didn't agree on much.

00:06:12.100 Dismissing criticism from his party's left-wing flank that he's too conciliatory towards political

00:06:18.620 adversaries, the former vice president told a crowd of about a hundred people.

00:06:23.980 Let me say that again.

00:06:25.700 The former vice president told a crowd of about 100 people that one of his strengths was bringing

00:06:32.600 people together.

00:06:33.320 He knows that this makes him old-fashioned in the eyes of Democrats, but he remained

00:06:39.420 adamant that political fellowship of that sort maintained with white supremacists in

00:06:44.340 the 1970s was not just possible in today's climate, but it is the best answer to the forces elevating

00:06:51.820 President Trump.

00:06:52.700 If we can reach a consensus in our system, what happens?

00:06:57.040 He then goes on to talk about how he was, he cited the late Senator James Eastland of Mississippi

00:07:05.280 and Herman Talmadge of Georgia, who are both steadfastly opposed to civil rights and racial

00:07:12.440 and racial integration.

00:07:14.620 I was in a caucus with James Eastland, Biden said, where he was introduced by so-and-so,

00:07:21.700 the Democratic presidential candidate who had been, who led his competitors in early polls,

00:07:27.260 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:07:28.600 He said, he, then he impersonated the southern drawl of a Mississippi cotton planter, and he

00:07:35.720 said, he never called me boy.

00:07:38.440 He always called me son. 0.76

00:07:40.480 Okay, well, you're white, Senator. 0.95

00:07:45.160 You see, that was a slam. 0.99

00:07:46.560 When you called somebody boy, you were usually talking to a black man, and that was a demeaning 0.95

00:07:52.700 slam against you.

00:07:55.200 Okay? 0.99

00:07:56.000 You're white. 0.95

00:07:56.960 Of course he never called you boy.

00:07:59.100 You were white. 0.93

00:08:01.440 So this guy that he was holding up and saying I had a friendship with, I could get along with,

00:08:06.760 and we could work together.

00:08:08.100 He thought that black Americans belonged to an inferior race and warned that integration 0.83

00:08:14.200 would cause mongrelization. 0.99

00:08:19.360 Biden remarked that, I've been around so long, I worked with James Eastland, even in the days

00:08:30.200 when I got there.

00:08:31.400 Listen to this.

00:08:32.080 The Democratic Party still had seven or eight old-fashioned Democratic segregationalists.

00:08:38.140 You'd get up and argue like the devil with them, but then you'd go down and have lunch

00:08:42.880 or dinner together.

00:08:45.300 Okay, hang on just a second.

00:08:47.600 There is something about, hey, I disagree on tax policy.

00:08:51.700 I disagree on what we should do with the war.

00:08:55.320 There's a huge difference between, oh, by the way, I don't think these people over here

00:08:59.560 are people.

00:09:00.000 I don't know if we, you know, it's not like, hey, I sat with Hitler and I argued all day 0.70

00:09:07.200 and all night, but then we had a delightful time and having some, you know, having some

00:09:12.460 Hassan Pfeffer.

00:09:14.880 What?

00:09:16.000 This goes back to a fundamental truth about Joe Biden running for president, is that he's

00:09:21.160 not good at running for president.

00:09:23.100 Like, he's already tried it.

00:09:24.280 He loses every time he tries it.

00:09:26.660 This could go south quickly.

00:09:28.460 It could.

00:09:30.340 It could.

00:09:30.760 This is, by the way, from the Washington Post, where he's holding up.

00:09:35.200 First of all, he's blowing a hole through the line that it was Republicans that were all

00:09:40.960 the segregationalists.

00:09:42.120 No.

00:09:43.220 It was still the Democrats.

00:09:45.580 The Democrats in the 60s were still in with the Klan. 0.58

00:09:49.180 OK, there was no migration over to the Republican Party.

00:09:53.760 That didn't happen.

00:09:55.760 And here he is, A, qualifying that and saying, yes, that's, you know, they still had, we still

00:10:01.640 had seven or eight, you know, hardline segregationalists who didn't even see black people as black people.

00:10:07.060 But I had dinner with them.

00:10:08.620 I could work with them.

00:10:10.060 That was great.

00:10:10.980 OK, wait a minute.

00:10:12.540 Hang on just a second.

00:10:14.060 What does that say about how you can't talk to Donald Trump?

00:10:19.320 You could have dinner with people who didn't think people were people.

00:10:25.180 But you can't talk to Donald Trump.

00:10:27.600 He's just too extreme.

00:10:29.160 What?

00:10:30.500 Where are you coming from?

00:10:33.480 It is.

00:10:34.240 It is remarkable to me.

00:10:35.780 By the way, another thing the press should be concerned about, the Democrats should be

00:10:41.700 concerned about, the day before he launched his his rally, Trump raised a record twenty

00:10:49.860 four point eight million dollars one day before.

00:10:55.900 So he launches his campaign and he raises a record of twenty four point eight million dollars.

00:11:03.680 I'd say there's some passion there.

00:11:06.560 I'd say there's some passion, by the way.

00:11:09.060 We're going to go through some of the audio here in just a second.

00:11:12.160 But I thought it was also interesting that.

00:11:17.940 Donald Trump is is on the campaign trail.

00:11:22.380 He starts.

00:11:23.980 He raises record amounts.

00:11:26.080 He has crowds that I have not seen a president ever have in reelection.

00:11:30.580 And I've only seen one other president get it.

00:11:33.460 And that was Barack Obama, who was the first black man in history to be a president.

00:11:40.040 That faded quickly.

00:11:41.900 This isn't fading.

00:11:44.340 How how are the Democrats going to be able to do this when they're infighting?

00:11:50.820 And I'm telling you, even if Joe Biden gets the nomination, he's going they're going to be

00:11:57.640 infighting. Look at how far to the center he's trying to run.

00:12:02.440 And even in that article from The Washington Post, it talks about how he is just brushing

00:12:07.600 by the leftists.

00:12:09.880 So he's he doesn't care what the left is saying.

00:12:13.080 Apparently, we know that's not true because he changed his long term stance on abortion.

00:12:18.160 So he does care about that.

00:12:20.120 But do you really think that the the people who support Bernie Sanders are going to be

00:12:25.580 supporting Joe Biden?

00:12:27.840 I don't think so, because they actually believe in revolution and they don't see him as a

00:12:33.320 revolutionary.

00:12:34.120 They see him as Macron in France.

00:12:38.300 He'll be another Macron for anybody who is actually on the left.

00:12:42.340 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:12:52.920 Hey, it's Glenn.

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00:13:02.360 Let me let me give you some audio.

00:13:04.640 This is CNN as they cut away from the Trump rally.

00:13:08.280 I can't imagine why they were cutting away.

00:13:10.500 Listen to this.

00:13:11.200 2016 was not merely another four year election.

00:13:16.620 This was a defining moment in American history.

00:13:21.780 Ask them right there.

00:13:23.700 By the way, that is a lot of fake news back there.

00:13:50.600 That's a lot.

00:13:52.240 That's a lot.

00:13:54.060 All right.

00:13:54.840 We've been watching the president kick off his reelection bid.

00:13:58.400 He's been on stage for about six minutes.

00:14:01.120 Within two minutes, he did talk about the economy.

00:14:04.260 But within four minutes, it was a tax on the media.

00:14:07.900 So he was talking about a bright, rosy future, but then quickly reverted to some of the same themes he's been talking about since he began running four years ago today.

00:14:18.720 Yeah.

00:14:20.260 Yeah.

00:14:20.360 It really wasn't an attack on the media.

00:14:22.360 Did you notice that, Stu?

00:14:23.380 It was really an attack on CNN.

00:14:26.220 CNN specifically there.

00:14:28.000 Yeah.

00:14:28.460 Yeah. 0.99

00:14:28.780 And you think, too, when they were chanting CNN sucks. 0.96

00:14:31.520 I don't think that was the media. 0.98

00:14:32.960 That was CNN.

00:14:34.060 And apples being apples, you probably don't want to pull out of coverage, especially when the guy's talking about you, right?

00:14:41.020 Like, that's sort of a banana thing to do, isn't it?

00:14:43.640 To try to hide the fact that you're being attacked?

00:14:47.100 I honestly don't even understand it.

00:14:49.060 I mean, like, obviously their audience is going to be pleased that Donald Trump does not like them.

00:14:54.520 So why try to pull out and hide that?

00:14:56.820 I don't even understand the reasoning.

00:14:58.180 I think because you'll notice they dump the video and the audio as soon as the attack stopped.

00:15:08.620 So I think if, I mean, this is backseat driving, giving them a lot more credit than they probably deserve.

00:15:16.500 But if I were making the call, I would be like, hold, hold, hold.

00:15:20.780 The minute he changes subjects so he's off of us, go.

00:15:25.280 However, that's giving them, I mean, that's giving them CNN superpowers.

00:15:32.220 I just don't think that's what they were scrambling.

00:15:34.640 They were planning on doing.

00:15:35.540 They're like, get back at the desk.

00:15:37.120 Get back at the desk.

00:15:38.100 You got to go, go, go, go, go, go.

00:15:40.700 And he changed subjects as they left.

00:15:43.060 It must be bizarre for the average CNN viewer, though, because, I mean, you get basically, and this is CNN and MSNBC,

00:15:48.120 but you get basically this constant barrage that everyone is abandoning Trump and he has no supporters anymore.

00:15:55.960 And you brought this up at the beginning.

00:15:57.280 I mean, I don't think there's any question that Donald Trump has massively passionate supporters.

00:16:02.080 Like, they have not, and the 90% of them plus have not faded from their passion for Donald Trump.

00:16:09.680 The question is, does he have a large enough group of passionate people to win an election?

00:16:13.800 And, obviously, that's going to be the answer that, you know, we're going to get that in 18 months. 0.97

00:16:18.180 But, I mean, the idea that you're going to say that, like, he doesn't have these passionate supporters and that they don't care is, it's an asinine argument. 0.90

00:16:24.940 I mean, that's his whole thing.

00:16:27.640 The question is, will it influence people?

00:16:32.240 And I think it will.

00:16:33.200 You know, Don Imus taught me something a long time ago.

00:16:35.620 He said, if you don't have 30% of the audience that hates you, the available audience that hates you, you're not doing anything.

00:16:44.400 You're not being different enough.

00:16:46.080 You're not, you know, you, 30% of the audience is what provides fuel for the other 70%.

00:16:52.720 And he didn't mean it like, go, you know, go make people pissed off, et cetera, et cetera.

00:16:58.440 He was just like, you're not saying anything if you don't have, you know, at least, you know, some people that really dislike you.

00:17:08.320 So, Donald Trump, he's got about 30% of the people who really don't like him.

00:17:15.280 Now, he's also got about 30% of the people who love him.

00:17:19.600 That was Don's other piece of advice.

00:17:21.760 Only if you have that polarization, only if you have that real people who are just like, this guy really hacks me off.

00:17:29.760 Will you have the passion of the audience, maybe 30%, that will say, I love this guy.

00:17:36.880 And it's the effect of the, I love this guy that will sway the rest of the audience.

00:17:43.780 Now, here's, here's the problem with Donald Trump.

00:17:46.420 Donald Trump has the media and the media will expand at all of the hatred of Donald Trump.

00:17:54.720 They're going to be pushing that out.

00:17:57.120 So, as, as his 30% that love him create this atmosphere of, of, wow, there's something exciting going on over here, which is important.

00:18:08.680 The same time, the media is going to be tearing it apart and saying, no, no, look at all the people that hate him.

00:18:14.280 Well, I got news for you.

00:18:16.420 The media is not who they were in 2016.

00:18:20.320 Who's watching CNN?

00:18:22.460 Literally, who?

00:18:26.500 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:18:39.240 You know, I didn't have a lot to say on Father's Day.

00:18:41.440 Um, and I was, I was, I was, I was going to, and then, um, I didn't.

00:18:48.960 As a, as a dad, I am working so hard to be a good dad and I fail so often.

00:18:53.800 Um, but I'm trying to be, um, a better man every day.

00:19:03.660 If you're a longtime listener to this program, you know that my dad and I didn't have a close relationship when I was growing up.

00:19:09.240 Um, it was a very complicated family is a mess.

00:19:13.560 Um, and then my dad and I got very close and he was my hero when my thirties and early forties, he was my hero.

00:19:20.840 Uh, and then we had to confront abuse and my dad, uh, was revealed to me to be a monster.

00:19:32.360 I mean, a monster and I've never talked about it and I will some, someday, but, um, I've had a very, very difficult time in the last few years dealing with this.

00:19:47.580 And, um, and I thought my family was a shipwreck.

00:19:53.780 We had a, we had a, uh, family therapist.

00:19:56.160 We all went through therapy for this recently and, uh, she said, I've never, I've never seen a shipwreck of a family like this before.

00:20:02.880 Just a, just an on the rock shipwreck.

00:20:07.120 And, uh, there's always somebody who can show you a bigger shipwreck.

00:20:11.840 And I picked up a book recently.

00:20:13.720 It's called climbing out of the wreck and I picked it up and it's one of those books that it doesn't take too long to read and you start to pick it up and you are just, uh, you're amazed by the story.

00:20:26.000 And you don't put the book down until you're finished.

00:20:28.940 Uh, and it's also one of those books that you read and you're like, okay, please have a happy ending.

00:20:34.140 And it does.

00:20:35.740 Um, it is a very brave tale, uh, told by somebody who is under pseudonym, uh, Christine Stein.

00:20:45.380 Uh, and she joins us now. 1.00

00:20:46.940 Hello, Christine.

00:20:47.600 How are you?

00:20:48.560 Hi, Glenn.

00:20:49.220 Thank you for having me on.

00:20:50.620 I really appreciate it.

00:20:51.840 Um, I was really deeply moved, uh, by your story and, uh, the courage that it took to be who you are today.

00:21:01.480 Can you just give the audience a little brush of, of your childhood?

00:21:08.320 Well, I want to start.

00:21:09.580 I want to say, I'm so sorry that you had to go through a hard childhood.

00:21:13.900 I know what that's all about.

00:21:15.320 Uh, my father was a sexual predator and my mother was an alcoholic, uh, drug user.

00:21:22.580 So, um, you can just imagine what that was like, um, for children to go through. 0.87

00:21:28.640 Um, it would be even hard for an adult to take it all, all in, but it was a nightmare, you know.

00:21:35.120 But we did have times that we had love in our family.

00:21:38.880 Um, I did get that at times, but then there were these other times that no child should have to ever go through.

00:21:47.320 Um, and watch the parents do their thing.

00:21:49.780 Go ahead. 0.93

00:21:50.500 Your father, your father, uh, was sexually abusive, um, to your, your sisters.

00:21:56.860 And it even went to court and your mother testified against your sister, even though she knew it was true. 1.00

00:22:05.580 Yes.

00:22:06.380 You know, the sad thing about this, Glenn, there is, that's not just like that has just happened that it happens a lot.

00:22:14.340 There's a lot of mothers that were protect, you know, the husband, you know, or the boyfriend that has sexually abused their child. 0.77

00:22:23.500 But my mother did that, and I think my mother was such a lost soul in so many ways. 0.97

00:22:29.780 But my mother, her childhood was, my grandfather had raped her and all her sisters, and he was an alcoholic, raging alcoholic. 0.95

00:22:39.180 So, you know, and I, there's no excuse for her behavior at all.

00:22:43.440 But when I was at a point in my life that I stood back and I said, who are these people that have abused me so much?

00:22:50.600 And my siblings, I started looking into really what they came from.

00:22:55.880 And my mother came out of a horrible situation.

00:22:59.860 And on the other hand, my father was educated, had loving parents, and it just didn't make any sense.

00:23:07.900 You know, they couldn't really wrap their heads around, you know, later on finding out what he was up to.

00:23:13.360 So, you know, you can kind of say some people are just born evil, you know, and that's the only way I can describe that.

00:23:21.120 I think my mother's situation is what you're taught, and she passed it, you know, on.

00:23:26.980 She never got therapy to deal with it.

00:23:30.380 And then she went on to, when I was about 14 years old, she was taken away.

00:23:37.760 She lost her mind, and I didn't see her for almost a year.

00:23:43.280 But I would see her off and on, but she didn't come back to the house.

00:23:46.860 And she was a different person, you know, because there was times that my mom could really be wonderful.

00:23:53.660 And then there was times with the alcohol and her depression and the drugs.

00:23:58.880 One time I watched my mother try to kill herself in the bathroom when I was about seven years old.

00:24:05.080 And, you know, nobody should have to see their mother try to do something like that. 0.84

00:24:10.160 It was pretty devastating.

00:24:11.640 But she twice, you know, twice in her life she tried to kill herself.

00:24:15.280 And it was, you know, it's very painful now because I love my mother, you know.

00:24:20.260 I hold on to the good parts of my mom.

00:24:24.960 But, you know, these other things I want people to understand, I guess people like us, that, you know,

00:24:32.280 when we go through something that we are scarred and we are traumatized and, you know,

00:24:38.480 we are still fighting those scars and they kind of open up at times.

00:24:44.180 Christine, I, because I went through this with my dad and I, my father was raped when he was young

00:24:52.900 and had a horrible, horrible childhood.

00:24:56.480 And so I, I attached compassion and I loved my dad and I loved my dad that he was working to conquer it.

00:25:05.180 Um, and, uh, and at one point in his life he just gave up, uh, and it was about time he was about 70, 75 years old.

00:25:14.640 He just gave up and he became an absolute monster.

00:25:18.300 And, um, I, I'm, uh, I'm struggling, you know, it was with Tony Robbins and he reminded me of a lot of the good stuff my father taught me.

00:25:29.280 And, uh, because I had forgotten some of those things or I dismissed those things because I just took my dad's teachings and everything and threw it out the window.

00:25:38.360 And, uh, I just rejected everything as he said was, was a lie.

00:25:43.260 And I'm starting to put those things in order again, but that's really difficult.

00:25:48.160 Have you, have you, I, you know, I can, you know, there was, uh, there, well, I'll just break it down.

00:25:54.960 And I went to visit, uh, my mother and my dad was there and this is, you know, I'm about 22, 23 at this time.

00:26:04.000 I go in, I have a son at this point and he's a little boy and I go in there and I could tell my father was ready to attack me psychologically.

00:26:13.440 I just knew it was going to happen.

00:26:14.940 And he started attacking me and then asking me sexual questions and saying, who are you?

00:26:21.340 What are you?

00:26:22.800 And something took over and I looked at him and I said, I know I'm not you.

00:26:28.360 I never will be you.

00:26:30.120 And you know, you, what you taught me is not to be you within, you know, like I'd say less than 10 minutes.

00:26:36.700 I got up, I walked out of the house with my son.

00:26:40.960 I went to the car and I, you know, I was crying because it's pretty emotional when you have a parent attacking you like that, which I had all my life.

00:26:48.920 It was years of this.

00:26:50.560 My son looked at me and he was like, I know who you are, mommy.

00:26:53.880 I love you.

00:26:54.720 I think you're wonderful.

00:26:56.340 And I thought to myself, being in that nightmare of that man that has abused me pretty much all my life.

00:27:04.460 And then I go within 10 minutes to something that loves me and shows me I, I can do the right thing and live a great life.

00:27:12.340 It really psychologically showed me I don't have to put up that person.

00:27:16.600 I don't, I'm so much more than what this person would make me feel like garbage that I was able to go on to have, give life to somebody that loves me and adores me.

00:27:29.320 And it really pulled me through it.

00:27:31.020 So it's kind of like those little moments in life that kind of tell you, wow, because it is.

00:27:36.080 And I guess, you know, from your situation, you kind of slide back at times and you feel bad about yourself.

00:27:42.180 You kind of reflect on what's happened to you.

00:27:44.580 Or sometimes you react to things and you don't even realize it was something from your childhood.

00:27:49.940 And it doesn't mean that we're not good people.

00:27:51.980 I think, you know, in my life, I'm not cruel to people.

00:27:55.740 I'm, I've actually lived a life of trying to save things, animals and people, because it kind of feels like I'm saving myself at times.

00:28:03.020 So that urgency, I'm a little addicted to it because I want to fix it as fast as I can.

00:28:09.300 Because I guess somebody, you know, would, you know, I wish that somebody could come and help me.

00:28:13.980 I remember the police were always in and out of our homes because the neighbor, you know, the neighbors would call.

00:28:21.440 And I remember one time a police officer came up to me and I was about seven or eight years old and my sister was with me.

00:28:28.420 And it was all night.

00:28:29.740 My mother was wasted and screaming. 0.99

00:28:31.900 My father had came in, you know, from God only knows where.

00:28:35.160 So the fight was going on.

00:28:37.340 And at one point, my mom picked up a steak knife.

00:28:40.940 My mom would, in her rage, she would pick up knives and threaten, you know, my father or a kid screaming at us with them, that the officer came up to me and he bent down.

00:28:53.800 He was like, are you okay, little girl?

00:28:55.920 And the whole time I wanted to say, please take me with you.

00:28:59.200 Just take me out of here.

00:29:00.140 I'm so tired.

00:29:01.460 But I said, oh, I'm fine.

00:29:03.260 And people need to understand, children, why they do that is because we're scared to leave everything that we know, even though it might be a nightmare.

00:29:12.620 It's like you went out of it, but then you realize I'll be taken, you know, from this home that I know, my siblings and my parents can be okay at times.

00:29:21.800 And you hold on to those things, even though you're being abused.

00:29:27.860 Christine, I would like to figure out a way, because I know you're keeping your identity.

00:29:32.160 Because there's still, there's still problems with the family and everything else that are completely related.

00:29:37.240 I would love to find a way to where we could keep your identity and I could sit down with a podcast and talk to you because there's, there's a lot of wisdom in your book.

00:29:46.780 And the good thing is, is, you know, we, we just, we've just talked about the bad things.

00:29:51.160 There, there is a way out.

00:29:52.660 You did climb out of this wreck and not all of your siblings have.

00:29:57.040 And, and I understand, I mean, it causes real problems with your siblings and, and it's just, you know, the walking on eggshells doesn't ever seem to end.

00:30:06.820 Well, you know, like one of my sisters, you know, she's homeless. 0.94

00:30:11.680 She became a drug addict.

00:30:13.340 She was a beautiful young girl.

00:30:15.680 And the last time I saw her in a few years ago, I mean, I hate to say it this way, but, you know, teeth were missing out of her. 1.00

00:30:22.660 She had holes in her face and I could barely really communicate with her. 0.99

00:30:27.720 All she wanted was money to get more drugs. 1.00

00:30:31.000 And I just had to stop the relationship.

00:30:34.060 But she's very, I mean, violent kind of person. 0.97

00:30:38.080 And she chose, you know, and my other siblings, the difference between myself and now two of my other sisters, we want a good life and we want to give it to our children.

00:30:48.420 And we, you know, I realized if I stay a victim and angry, I'm just going to pass that on to my child.

00:30:55.480 And this is never going to stop.

00:30:58.500 And I, you know, I ended up pregnant in my early 20s and I was in a situation, you know, I had no business because still I was working through all these issues and going through a lot.

00:31:11.940 And my environment wasn't the greatest.

00:31:13.880 And I remember I went to the doctor thinking I was sick and he said, Christine, you're pregnant.

00:31:19.460 And I was like, oh, no, no, no.

00:31:21.280 Because in my family, abortions were the norm. 0.66

00:31:24.940 You know, I took several of my sisters there. 0.82

00:31:26.840 My mother had them.

00:31:28.620 This was just my environment.

00:31:31.080 But something really hit me hard.

00:31:33.060 And I sat in my car and I cried.

00:31:35.760 Now, religion and God wasn't a big thing in my family either. 0.77

00:31:40.760 Actually, my father would put people that believed in religion down, saying that they were weak people when he actually was, you know, the sick person.

00:31:51.000 But I started to pray, even though I didn't really know how to pray.

00:31:55.000 I just started saying, if there's a God, I need guidance.

00:31:58.880 I need help because I'm scared.

00:32:01.340 And I'm not here to tell people what to do.

00:32:04.460 I'm not at all.

00:32:05.380 But I'm telling my story.

00:32:06.980 And something came over me, and it became super clear.

00:32:12.060 And I just knew, I can have this baby.

00:32:16.040 I can work hard.

00:32:17.620 I will help this baby.

00:32:19.580 This baby will never have, you know, things that happened to me happen to it.

00:32:25.360 And my son is 33 now, and he's a doctor.

00:32:29.100 And he's in situations where he helps save lives.

00:32:32.580 And he became a scientist as well.

00:32:34.960 And he studies cancer and AIDS, too, and work on, you know.

00:32:41.020 Go ahead.

00:32:41.620 Christine, I would love to have you on a podcast because you're just beginning to tell the great part of the story.

00:32:48.640 I urge you to pick up the book.

00:32:50.380 It is Climbing Out of the Wreck, Christine Stein.

00:32:53.540 It is, it's a, it's a, it's a tough childhood.

00:32:57.100 You think you have somebody, your kids or anybody says, oh, you know, I've got it so tough.

00:33:01.920 Give them this book.

00:33:03.280 And then it, it shows how to climb out of the wreck.

00:33:06.660 It's a fantastic book.

00:33:08.680 It's Climbing Out of the Wreck by Christine Stein.

00:33:11.440 Hope to talk to you again, Christine.

00:33:13.020 Thank you so much.

00:33:18.940 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:33:23.540 This is the Glenn Beck program, and we're joined by David Barton.

00:33:37.060 And David, you are very politically active and you see polls.

00:33:44.480 Tell me, tell me what the, the things that the president needs to stand on to be able to win.

00:33:52.000 I think there's two issues that he has opportunity to make a lot of ground on.

00:33:57.480 One actually is socialism.

00:34:00.020 Polling we've seen on socialism is very interesting for where it breaks demographically.

00:34:05.200 You have about 41% of Americans who support socialism.

00:34:09.900 You have 69% of millennials and 75% of college students.

00:34:15.240 So the younger the crowd, the more they support socialism.

00:34:17.720 But what's interesting is George Barna.

00:34:20.560 I love Barna because he never really stops with just a question or a poll.

00:34:23.840 He keeps asking questions.

00:34:25.140 Find out if you know what you're talking about.

00:34:26.780 So he, he found that 41% of Americans supported socialism.

00:34:31.340 And so he asked an additional 40 plus questions about socialism.

00:34:36.000 And he just asked what it was.

00:34:37.540 He said, do you support greater government regulations?

00:34:40.760 Do you support greater government ownership of private business, et cetera?

00:34:44.880 And it's all socialism.

00:34:46.820 And he found at the end, only 2% actually supported socialism once they knew what it was.

00:34:51.400 They just didn't have a clue.

00:34:52.680 So we, we, we found that, you know, surface polling, uh, the two, when you ask people,

00:34:57.900 what is socialism?

00:34:58.660 And two biggest answers were that it dealt with social media or that it dealt with sharing

00:35:04.020 and who's against sharing.

00:35:05.280 So I'm for socialism.

00:35:06.260 So when you actually get into what it is.

00:35:08.500 And so I think the president has a big opportunity to really gain ground.

00:35:12.620 If education about socialism can go as part of what he's doing, if he'll keep talking about

00:35:16.960 it for the next several months and people chime in and say, do you understand what socialism

00:35:20.780 is?

00:35:21.240 Do you understand what the free market, what you lose?

00:35:23.780 I think he has a big ground there.

00:35:25.660 I think the other big ground he has is actually what he raised last night on, on abortion, how

00:35:29.760 extreme it is.

00:35:30.420 He talked about Virginia, et cetera.

00:35:32.300 We literally have seen that since Virginia governor Northup said what he said, since

00:35:36.960 Cuomo did what he did in New York, other States have joined.

00:35:40.120 Uh, we've seen that the pro-life position among Democrats has increased 17%, which that's

00:35:46.660 just massive among young people.

00:35:48.840 There was a 40 point switch because they didn't really think about what abortion was in late

00:35:54.080 term.

00:35:54.480 And so somewhere between 70 and 80% of the nation of poor opposes last trimester abortions,

00:36:00.820 much less infanticide.

00:36:02.300 So that's another issue that if he will stay on that and people talk about what this actually

00:36:08.080 is.

00:36:08.360 And by the way, Cuomo, after he passed that bill in New York, his numbers plummeted to

00:36:12.480 the lowest they've been in his entire term, uh, after he did that, that essentially an

00:36:17.300 infanticide bill in New York.

00:36:18.700 So I think those are two big opportunities he has.

00:36:22.240 So, um, I just got word that we have coming in for our museum.

00:36:26.880 Uh, we have some survivors, the mother of one of the big survivors of the Boko Haram, uh,

00:36:33.800 nightmare with, uh, with Muslims coming in and just taking these, these kids, uh, you know, 1.00

00:36:40.700 and Michelle Obama tweeting, you know, we want our girls back. 0.53

00:36:43.380 Well, we got some of them, uh, and we have, we have one of the mothers coming in from Nigeria

00:36:50.600 to talk about that.

00:36:51.780 We have a couple of people that are going to be docents at this, uh, museum because it's

00:36:56.200 not our usual museum.

00:36:58.020 That's right.

00:36:59.040 Yeah.

00:36:59.440 This museum explain a little bit.

00:37:01.300 Go ahead.

00:37:01.620 This really, how do we say this?

00:37:04.740 There's so much we learn about history that is history, but history really is today.

00:37:10.680 Um, I mean, we will look at the African slave trade, 350 years, 12.7 million Africans brought

00:37:16.720 out of Africa and the slavery in 350 years.

00:37:20.480 Okay.

00:37:21.180 But today there are 40 million in slavery today.

00:37:24.520 That's more than 350 years, the African slave trade.

00:37:27.160 What are we doing about it today?

00:37:28.480 And so when you can't really denigrate our, can't really denigrate our founding fathers

00:37:33.480 and say, oh, they didn't do enough when the problem is much worse and we're not even looking

00:37:38.120 at it.

00:37:38.540 That's right.

00:37:38.900 David, there's also, we're going to clear up some, uh, things and I think we're going

00:37:42.740 to make a few people mad, uh, with some of the stats, but they are official stats.

00:37:49.080 Uh, for instance, the two that we keep coming back to one, the slave trade in America was

00:37:55.340 horrible.

00:37:56.080 That's horrible.

00:37:56.800 That's right.

00:37:57.120 But out of all those that were enslaved and brought across the ocean, we were only 4%

00:38:03.540 of the receivers.

00:38:05.600 Yeah.

00:38:06.120 When you, uh, the number one was Brazil.

00:38:08.600 Brazil was 46% of all those carried out of Africa, went to Brazil.

00:38:13.220 26% went to great Britain.

00:38:15.160 10% went to Jamaica.

00:38:16.560 You keep going down the list.

00:38:18.000 We're one of the smallest on the list.

00:38:20.040 We just have to excuse what we had, but America, the English colonies in America, 3.3%.

00:38:25.860 Uh, Denmark had less than that.

00:38:28.080 So, but we're at the bottom and that's still way too many, uh, shouldn't have happened.

00:38:32.840 There's no excuse.

00:38:34.220 But what we also point out is there has never been any people in history that number one

00:38:40.640 did not own slaves.

00:38:41.700 And number two, we're not themselves that slaves at some time.

00:38:44.300 And so the American academic thing of slavery is absolutely white on black and it's white 0.75

00:38:50.300 privilege and et cetera.

00:38:51.980 Statistically, that doesn't hold up.

00:38:53.720 Uh, I mean, quite frankly, you had in that same period, Muslims captured 1.25 million slaves

00:38:59.680 and most of them Christian slaves. 0.94

00:39:01.320 They were doing religious slavery. 0.91

00:39:03.260 Uh, we know that at the time of the civil war in South Carolina, 43% of free blacks in South

00:39:09.640 Carolina owned black slaves.

00:39:11.720 And we know that with, with the Indian tribes at the time of the civil war, one out of every

00:39:16.340 eight among the five major Indian tribes, they were black slaves. 0.54

00:39:20.420 Indians were big owners of slaves. 1.00

00:39:22.120 As a matter of fact, when the 13th amendment was passed, it didn't apply to the Indian nation.

00:39:25.900 And so the Indian nations had slavery much longer than we had in the 13th amendment.

00:39:29.620 But, and you never hear any of this, you never hear any of it.

00:39:34.420 And again, we'll only get in trouble for those who think we're trying to excuse it.

00:39:38.120 And we're not, we're not just trying to give perspective and to show you that history repeats

00:39:44.280 itself and without true, uh, a true balanced look at history, you can't do anything.

00:39:51.700 You're just going to be trapped in the past.

00:39:54.680 History is being made right now today.

00:39:57.200 David, how did, um, how did it end in Brazil?

00:40:01.500 How come, how come somebody who takes 46%, we only take, uh, 4% do they struggle with their,

00:40:09.540 their slave heritage?

00:40:11.480 Oh, no, they don't cover that in history, but Brazil still is a very high country for a

00:40:15.800 high number of slaves today.

00:40:17.260 Uh, one of the things that we have as you come into the museum is a map showing the dispersion

00:40:22.160 of, of slaves at 12.7 million to all the nations back then kind of shows a hotspot, which

00:40:26.700 were the hot nations.

00:40:27.920 Well, there's a map today for the 40 million.

00:40:29.880 And you look at the hotspots and Brazil is still a hotspot.

00:40:33.120 Uh, so it's not like that they have gotten over this.

00:40:35.660 This is still a very, uh, current thing, uh, all across Africa.

00:40:39.620 They're the same places that were culprits 300 years ago are still culprits today.

00:40:44.660 Quite frankly.

00:40:46.480 It's, um, it's also, um, interesting.

00:40:49.560 And this is just this, you don't even leave the lobby or the first part of the, I think

00:40:54.220 we were having broken up in nine sections.

00:40:56.440 We're only covering the stuff that's in section one.

00:40:58.740 Yeah, that's right.

00:40:59.440 You'll be in there for like 10 minutes.

00:41:00.720 I mean, this is section one.

00:41:02.900 Um, the, um, the fact that, you know, we fought a civil war, uh, we had the 13th amendment,

00:41:10.440 which will be down in our studios.

00:41:12.580 You'll be able to see the, the, uh, the actual document.

00:41:15.980 And I think the, the Juneteenth, uh, document as well.

00:41:20.200 Isn't it going to be here?

00:41:20.700 Yeah.

00:41:20.720 Juneteenth is when the announcement reached Texas, which was like a year and a half later that

00:41:24.960 the 13th amendment was signed.

00:41:26.820 So it was the emancipation proclamation, but we actually have the pin that Lincoln used

00:41:31.580 to sign the 13th amendment right there with the 13th amendment.

00:41:34.740 So it's, it's really some amazing stuff.

00:41:37.000 It's really going to be cool.

00:41:38.000 Once in a lifetime kind of opportunity to see some cool stuff.

00:41:40.660 Yeah.

00:41:41.480 And we, um, as we're doing this, uh, you know, we look at again, our founders and we

00:41:46.960 say, you know, they were horrible.

00:41:48.420 Well, Mexico actually abolished slavery before we did.

00:41:53.560 Do you know the dates, David?

00:41:54.520 I don't remember the dates.

00:41:56.380 Uh, yeah.

00:41:57.160 Technically on paper, they abolished slavery.

00:42:00.760 It didn't really work out that way because they had a 99 year kind of exception.

00:42:06.400 Oh, by the way, if you own slaves, you can, you can hold them up to 99 more years, but

00:42:10.320 we're abolishing slavery, but you get to keep your slaves for 99 years. 0.92

00:42:14.220 Okay.

00:42:14.820 Isn't that pretty much what, what, what we get yelled at for with our founders when they

00:42:19.560 made the compromise in the constitution and said, look, we're going to phase out this

00:42:23.380 part and we'll come back to it later.

00:42:25.600 Or I mean, at least they didn't say, and a hundred years later, then it's going to stop.

00:42:31.060 Well, they were hoping that it would stop earlier.

00:42:33.220 Their abolition of the slave trade that they said in 1787, we want this ended by 1808.

00:42:39.280 That's the earliest of any nation.

00:42:40.980 I mean, abolishing slave trade, we're first on that.

00:42:43.940 We're kind of second in actually abolishing slavery.

00:42:46.880 We are the only nation in the history of the world where the whites fought whites and ended 0.69

00:42:51.940 slavery for blacks.

00:42:53.500 I mean, we've got so many firsts that don't get talked about.

00:42:57.120 But what happened even with the founding fathers in the slave trade, the problem we have with 0.51

00:43:02.280 academics today is that there is a Northern view of slavery where that, for example, in

00:43:06.960 Massachusetts, there never was a time when blacks could not vote.

00:43:10.000 You have a middle view of slavery in the middle colonies and you have a Southern view, which is

00:43:13.580 where the plantation slavery was, all the abominations, and all we cover is the Southern view of slavery.

00:43:19.460 We don't cover the middle colony view or the Northern colony view.

00:43:22.220 And so we really do not teach an accurate view of history on what happened with race.

00:43:26.940 And, you know, we're going to hope to do that in the museum, not hope to, we're doing that

00:43:31.440 in the museum because we want truth.

00:43:32.800 Truth is the objective we have.

00:43:35.240 Right.

00:43:35.780 And again, it's not to diminish this.

00:43:39.020 No, that's right.

00:43:40.660 And the whole point of the museum we haven't even gotten to.

00:43:43.580 Yet, uh, the whole point of the museum is if you hate it so much, uh, why don't we all

00:43:49.080 work together to stop it from happening today?

00:43:52.620 And, uh, there's some stunning things that, uh, I'm, I'm shocked that we have, uh, and I

00:44:02.480 think our, our, this is not for your small kids.

00:44:06.600 This is not for your small kids.

00:44:08.220 Um, but, um, hopefully it will, it will, uh, be another drop in the bucket to get people

00:44:14.980 to act.

00:44:15.560 Uh, mercury one.org is where you can get the tickets.

00:44:18.840 David does a tour.

00:44:20.160 I'll do tours.

00:44:21.600 Um, uh, Stu even does a tour, which I don't know what you're going to learn on that.

00:44:25.740 Um, very little, but we have a lot of fun.

00:44:27.600 Yeah, but it'll be fun.

00:44:30.040 Uh, it's, uh, it is really something that we have worked very hard and we have sweat

00:44:36.160 blood over this one because we know how, we know how dangerous this is.

00:44:40.960 We know in this politically correct environment to tell the facts that you've never heard,

00:44:46.260 never heard, put it into perspective and not dwell on that, but say, look, this is the

00:44:54.480 pattern that happened then look at the pattern.

00:44:57.680 It's happening again now, and it doesn't have anything to do with race.

00:45:02.900 Let's work together.

00:45:05.300 Uh, that's, uh, not, uh, not a popular, not a popular thing.

00:45:09.600 Um, but we invite you to come and you can get your tickets at mercury one.org.

00:45:13.640 It opens up the 27th of June and it goes through the 7th of July.

00:45:19.620 Make sure you join us.

00:45:21.220 Mercury one.org.

00:45:22.420 That's mercury one.org.

00:45:24.140 Get your tickets.

00:45:24.840 Now we're 10 days away from the opening.

00:45:27.340 David, thank you so much.

00:45:28.500 My pleasure.

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