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00:00:30.000 So Stu thinks that I'm on a bender.

00:00:32.280 You'll hear that today.

00:00:33.760 We talked about Elon and Vivek being put in charge of DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, and how great it is.

00:00:42.960 I'm really optimistic.

00:00:44.620 It's like a freaky Friday on the program because Stu's not as optimistic.

00:00:48.660 Clint Brown discusses the fight for the Senate and the majority leader today.

00:00:51.700 What options President Trump has to avoid obstruction from the potential new majority leader.

00:00:56.880 And Carol Roth helps shed some light on a potential Treasury Secretary pick.

00:01:01.640 Can we find someone that hasn't happily worked with George Soros?

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00:02:31.760 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:33.480 Glad you're here.

00:02:34.380 Pat.

00:02:34.860 Pat Gray.

00:02:35.680 Pat Gray joins us now from Pat Gray Unleashed.

00:02:37.200 He's with us.

00:02:37.620 And I have some disappointing news for you, Pat.

00:02:40.120 You've known Glenn a long time, gone through a lot of his times of struggle.

00:02:43.860 Yeah.

00:02:44.480 And I regret to inform you, he's back on the sauce.

00:02:47.780 He's drunk this morning.

00:02:49.300 No, I'm not.

00:02:49.760 Yes, yes, it's happened.

00:02:50.720 No, I'm not.

00:02:51.400 Drugs.

00:02:51.840 I hate to see that happen.

00:02:52.420 I am genuinely optimistic.

00:02:54.200 I don't know how else to deal with this person other than to accuse him of drug use because he's so optimistic about what's coming.

00:02:59.700 And I have been for several days.

00:03:02.040 I know.

00:03:02.280 It's usually a bad thing, too.

00:03:03.980 But it's not this time.

00:03:05.360 It's not this time?

00:03:05.720 No, it's not this time.

00:03:06.840 Multiple days.

00:03:07.220 It's called a bender. 1.00

00:03:08.440 That's what they call that.

00:03:09.240 No, it's not.

00:03:10.080 No, it's not.

00:03:10.680 I mean, part of it probably is a relief, Pat, than waiting for someone to stand up and say,

00:03:18.180 we're going to the moon and we're coming back within a decade.

00:03:22.060 How long have I been saying?

00:03:22.960 We need somebody to give us a grand vision.

00:03:25.580 Yeah, a long time.

00:03:26.280 The guy has a grand vision.

00:03:28.260 It is exciting what's going on right now.

00:03:31.320 It really is.

00:03:32.120 We're like hitting a new.

00:03:33.720 This could very well be the golden era of America if he can get this stuff done.

00:03:41.040 And how much do you love the Elon Vivek thing?

00:03:43.480 Oh, that's the part I'm most excited about.

00:03:45.580 Brilliant.

00:03:45.900 Brilliant.

00:03:46.280 I love it.

00:03:46.940 I love it.

00:03:47.980 Love it.

00:03:48.700 Love it.

00:03:49.320 It's just incredible.

00:03:50.500 It is so great.

00:03:51.580 Pete Hegseth, Secretary of Defense.

00:03:55.220 That's fantastic.

00:03:56.620 Now, why do you like Pete?

00:03:58.300 Because he's a military guy.

00:04:00.000 He's a no-nonsense guy.

00:04:01.320 He's conservative.

00:04:02.400 He has quite a resume, too.

00:04:03.920 Yeah.

00:04:04.140 I'm sick of the way that the media has reacted.

00:04:06.960 It's like, who?

00:04:07.980 Who's this guy?

00:04:08.720 You mean the weekend Fox News host?

00:04:09.860 And I was a little bit like that at first, too.

00:04:11.580 But then when you dig a little bit deeper into Pete Hegseth.

00:04:15.600 Right.

00:04:15.940 And you look at the media.

00:04:19.420 It's just like, oh, gosh.

00:04:21.080 Well, can you believe this guy?

00:04:22.920 Who is this guy?

00:04:23.840 It's like, as if they know all the names of the generals that would normally get a gig like this.

00:04:28.420 They have no idea who this major media personality is.

00:04:32.120 They know who he is.

00:04:33.280 They're just trying to demean him. 0.95

00:04:35.600 And so I think that part of it is just ridiculous. 0.51

00:04:38.700 He has a real strong resume.

00:04:42.320 I don't have him in front of me.

00:04:43.320 He did things before Fox News.

00:04:44.280 Yeah.

00:04:45.140 I think he was a major, wasn't he?

00:04:47.240 Did he rise to the level of major?

00:04:48.580 He was National Guard, which isn't usually something I don't – did he see combat?

00:04:54.880 Yeah, he did.

00:04:55.540 He was over in Iraq, wasn't he?

00:04:57.260 Yeah.

00:04:57.520 Oh, yeah.

00:04:57.760 He's in multiple times.

00:04:59.140 Yeah.

00:04:59.440 And he has a bronze star.

00:05:01.040 2001.

00:05:01.840 Right.

00:05:02.420 He – you know, by his description, he's pulling people out of burning vehicles in Afghanistan.

00:05:08.220 He's a – he is a – he is a – I think a well-balanced individual.

00:05:14.180 He's not necessarily the best personally, you know.

00:05:19.340 They're going to have some opposition research on Pete.

00:05:21.360 Yeah.

00:05:21.680 Yes.

00:05:21.880 That's true.

00:05:22.400 So he's had some problems with women and everything else.

00:05:25.860 I mean, far as, you know –

00:05:27.480 Liking them too much.

00:05:28.600 Yeah, liking them too much.

00:05:29.960 Liking too many of them at the same time.

00:05:31.580 Right, right.

00:05:32.240 That type of stuff.

00:05:33.200 But, I mean, you know, that's well known.

00:05:34.660 But he also literally wrote the book on ending wokeism in the Pentagon.

00:05:40.980 Yeah, exactly.

00:05:41.660 So he may be – I mean, how many people did Trump go through the last time?

00:05:45.980 This guy may not be somebody that is going to take us through everything.

00:05:52.620 He might be the guy that Donald Trump says, go in there, just rinse it all out.

00:05:58.700 Get all of this wokeism, DEI stuff, because you literally wrote the book on it.

00:06:03.960 You know where it is.

00:06:05.780 Get it all out of here.

00:06:06.880 That stuff is toast, right?

00:06:08.360 Oh, toast.

00:06:09.160 You know, there are how many employees, you know, hundreds of them in like HHS that are

00:06:13.680 just diversity employees.

00:06:15.060 Yeah.

00:06:15.140 They're all gone, right?

00:06:16.500 That's all gone.

00:06:18.540 Don't you think?

00:06:19.440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:20.440 I don't think there's going to – that type of stuff he's really going to be targeting.

00:06:23.180 Oh, no.

00:06:24.320 But this is the – now, you were saying – you've been incredibly positive here.

00:06:27.720 You did mention a dark side – the dark side.

00:06:30.060 Okay, so here's – and it's not a dark side.

00:06:33.080 I just don't want people to think – like when I'm really, really pessimistic, everybody's

00:06:37.900 like, you're so depressing to listen to.

00:06:40.200 Yeah, I know, but – but for God.

00:06:43.600 Okay, what did I say?

00:06:44.500 Sure.

00:06:44.600 I could come up with a million ways this falls apart, but to thread this needle in this

00:06:49.880 election, it's going to take God, and I think God acted.

00:06:54.100 I do.

00:06:55.000 So here we are on the other side.

00:06:57.100 We see that God is not neutral in the affairs of man.

00:07:00.860 We have to stay focused on him and doing the right thing for him, not get too big for our

00:07:07.780 britches, not be sitting here going, ah, you know what, we're going to smash him, and 0.96

00:07:13.380 you know, that feels good, because we are, but we're doing it for the right reasons, and

00:07:19.280 we want to bring everybody together.

00:07:21.160 Blessed be the peacemakers, it doesn't mean, you know what, let's all get together.

00:07:27.280 It means I'm standing up.

00:07:29.500 Bonhoeffer is a great peacemaker.

00:07:31.880 What did he do?

00:07:32.680 He tried to assassinate Hitler, I mean, the real Hitler, not the latest Hitler that everybody's 0.86

00:07:39.080 talking about, the real Hitler.

00:07:41.020 He stood up against all odds.

00:07:43.700 He lost his peace to be able to fight for God's peace, okay?

00:07:49.960 So we have that fight in front of us.

00:07:53.460 They're not going to sit down and roll over.

00:07:56.400 They're not.

00:07:57.080 But for the first time, perhaps in my lifetime, since Ronald Reagan, and Ronald Reagan was

00:08:04.120 good, but not like this team, okay?

00:08:08.920 Reagan's time was different, different problems, everything else.

00:08:12.800 But Reagan stood up, and he didn't care what anybody else said, and he said, that is evil,

00:08:19.660 and we're going to destroy it. 0.70

00:08:21.340 And everybody said, no, don't say that.

00:08:23.400 That's Trump. 0.92

00:08:24.860 This is evil.

00:08:25.960 You're not going to mutilate our children.

00:08:28.660 You're not going to take the rights away from people.

00:08:31.080 You're going to return this to the hands of the people.

00:08:34.980 What's happening with DEI is evil and destructive, and we're going to take it down.

00:08:40.440 What's happening to our country is evil and destructive because you're saying America shouldn't exist

00:08:47.420 anymore.

00:08:48.740 No, that you can't do it without some big government.

00:08:52.360 No, that's evil.

00:08:53.720 Trust the people.

00:08:55.900 We finally have a captain who's saying that.

00:08:58.480 So in the midst of battle, look to the Lord, and then look to the leader who is saying, remember,

00:09:06.640 when this burns up on launch, on the launch pad, and we lose eight people, we know, we knew, we should have known

00:09:17.120 that that's going to happen when you're doing something this massive.

00:09:21.520 Don't cut the cord on it.

00:09:24.640 Remember, when we burned up, what was it, Apollo 8 on the launch pad and all of those people died, there were people

00:09:32.240 who were like, see, this is too big.

00:09:33.580 We shouldn't do this.

00:09:34.580 This is going to be bad.

00:09:36.180 No.

00:09:36.660 So keep going.

00:09:39.580 That's what we have to remember.

00:09:41.940 Be a peacemaker.

00:09:43.580 Keep going for what will bring people peace.

00:09:49.980 So I think it's a downside, but it's only if you don't know that that's coming.

00:09:55.420 A fight of your life is coming soon.

00:09:57.780 What's your optimism level on this stuff, Pat?

00:09:59.820 Do you think they can get a lot of this stuff done?

00:10:01.440 I hope so.

00:10:02.640 But I always think when they have control of both houses of Congress and the presidency,

00:10:09.680 they're going to get something done, and they never do.

00:10:12.560 So it's tempered with a little bit of...

00:10:15.520 Have you seen a president like this?

00:10:17.460 I mean, I'm counting on Donald Trump being a man of his word.

00:10:21.740 I didn't believe that in 16.

00:10:24.620 I didn't believe he was going to do it.

00:10:26.300 Right.

00:10:26.700 When he said, I'm going to make Jerusalem the capital. 0.87

00:10:29.560 Yeah, right.

00:10:30.180 Sure you are.

00:10:30.600 And he did.

00:10:31.180 And he did.

00:10:32.360 Well, he didn't make it the capital.

00:10:33.560 It actually just is the capital.

00:10:34.900 But he moved our...

00:10:35.980 Correct.

00:10:36.300 He moved our...

00:10:37.380 Yeah, embassy there.

00:10:38.320 Embassy.

00:10:38.480 I mean, he now knows more than he knew the first time, a lot more.

00:10:45.680 Look at the way he's laying this all out.

00:10:49.000 Yep.

00:10:49.360 He is not letting us guess what's going on.

00:10:52.820 He's releasing these videos every couple of days to say, this is this section, and this

00:11:00.200 is how we're fighting.

00:11:02.340 This is not by the seat of your pants.

00:11:04.480 This is well-planned, and it's not Agenda 2025.

00:11:09.200 It's his agenda, and it is taking everything apart that we've all dreamt of forever.

00:11:16.600 I'm in this fight, man.

00:11:18.500 I am all in on this fight.

00:11:20.140 If this is the way this guy is going to go, I'm all in.

00:11:23.100 I'm all in.

00:11:23.780 Yeah.

00:11:24.220 I mean, that's...

00:11:25.360 If he can succeed at this, it would be one of the...

00:11:27.920 I mean, we look back at the Calvin Coolidge presidency and say, how did he do that?

00:11:33.040 He cut 50% of the government?

00:11:35.720 Like, how is that even possible?

00:11:37.000 Well, so that's the type of heavy lift he's looking at.

00:11:40.840 Because now you can't even cut the increase in spending.

00:11:44.260 They're pissed about that.

00:11:45.540 You can't cut it 1%.

00:11:47.280 Yep.

00:11:48.080 So, yeah, 50% in two years was amazing.

00:11:51.240 But you know what?

00:11:52.920 Cutting...

00:11:53.640 You still have to cut the programs because it will be unmanageable with 50% of the employees.

00:12:00.140 But you cut the salaries of 50% of the people.

00:12:04.300 Do you know how much that saves a loan?

00:12:06.660 A lot.

00:12:07.180 A lot.

00:12:07.660 A lot.

00:12:08.660 And cutting out the Department of Education, which he has promised to do already?

00:12:13.260 That would be huge.

00:12:15.520 Like...

00:12:15.940 But that's going to be a bloodbath to get done.

00:12:18.180 So, what...

00:12:18.760 Okay.

00:12:20.620 All right.

00:12:21.540 You don't think so?

00:12:22.520 I want to put you on the spot here a little bit.

00:12:25.100 If he doesn't get rid of the Department of Education, are you disappointed?

00:12:30.140 I don't mean, like, disappointed, like, oh, gosh, I wish we had done that.

00:12:32.700 But, like, is this a failure if he doesn't do that?

00:12:35.180 Is it a failure if he doesn't cut the government by 50%?

00:12:38.420 Depends.

00:12:38.920 What has he done?

00:12:40.780 I mean, if we don't get any of this stuff done, I'm back to the depressed gland of we

00:12:45.360 have no chance.

00:12:46.620 Okay?

00:12:47.180 Right.

00:12:47.500 Because it's true.

00:12:48.200 Because he seems optimistic.

00:12:50.100 He seems to honestly want to do this.

00:12:51.880 Correct.

00:12:52.300 Yeah.

00:12:52.560 And he has the will, and he has, obviously, a mandate.

00:12:55.280 We have always said, you can't eat around the edges.

00:13:00.600 You can't do that.

00:13:02.240 You've got to take the whole thing and throw it out, restore it back to the constitutional

00:13:08.720 principles.

00:13:10.020 That's what he's saying to do.

00:13:12.420 He's not saying, well, you know what?

00:13:14.420 I'd like to reduce this by 5%.

00:13:16.420 Ah.

00:13:17.680 He's saying this is wrong constitutionally.

00:13:20.260 We're going to throw it out.

00:13:21.280 We're going to restore it by 2026, July 4th, 2026, the 250th anniversary.

00:13:30.260 We're going to give America back to Americans on our 250th birthday.

00:13:36.440 That's brilliant.

00:13:37.840 And that is something that he's pointing to the sky and saying, not in 10 years.

00:13:43.160 We're going to return this constitution back to you in a year and a half.

00:13:50.020 Oh, yeah.

00:13:51.280 I love it.

00:13:53.680 It's shooting for the stars.

00:13:56.320 Yes.

00:13:56.960 Yes.

00:13:57.440 And if we only get to the moon?

00:13:59.860 That'd be great.

00:14:00.440 It'd be great.

00:14:01.500 It'd be great.

00:14:02.240 Because I would be absolutely over the moon thrilled if they cut the government 10%.

00:14:07.320 I would be over the moon thrilled with that.

00:14:10.980 Do I think that's going to happen?

00:14:12.260 Probably not.

00:14:13.640 Like, what if we spend 6.2?

00:14:15.060 So you're telling me, how about this?

00:14:16.940 2026.

00:14:17.960 If they spend, what would they spend?

00:14:19.660 6.2 trillion?

00:14:20.600 You guys should do another massive bet.

00:14:22.560 Like, 5,000 on the line.

00:14:23.960 That's what I'm leaning into.

00:14:25.360 That's what I'm leaning into.

00:14:26.640 No, but like, if they spend instead 5.6 trillion, I would be over the moon thrilled with that outcome.

00:14:34.120 I don't, I, this just the way this city works.

00:14:37.360 If he can pull that, just that off, I will be over the moon thrilled with it.

00:14:41.860 Yeah, me too.

00:14:42.120 I'm, I'm a bit skeptical that he's going to be able to do it.

00:14:45.080 Not because he doesn't have the will.

00:14:46.480 Not because he's not the president with a mandate.

00:14:48.980 Not because he's not very, very capable. 0.99

00:14:50.880 It's just, there's a lot of crap in the way. 0.95

00:14:53.080 Yeah. 0.90

00:14:53.260 And it's hard.

00:14:53.660 And there's a lot of things that could happen.

00:14:55.420 I mean, the, we're going to talk about this next hour.

00:14:57.640 The, what happened with Biden and the fudging of the numbers, the economic numbers.

00:15:03.800 Oh, we're the strongest we've ever been.

00:15:06.120 Not true.

00:15:07.140 Now those numbers are all being revised.

00:15:08.800 And now we are going to start seeing them for what they really are.

00:15:12.360 We are on the verge of a recession.

00:15:14.380 We are on a verge of a really bad 1980s recession. 0.97

00:15:19.360 So he's being handed garbage because they lied about it.

00:15:24.520 So I don't know what that's going to mean and what that's going to take to dig us out.

00:15:28.780 But if he gets his way and he lowers, and I mean, dramatically lowers income tax, even

00:15:36.400 if we had a flat tax of 18%, flat tax, everything, 18%.

00:15:40.860 I'd be thrilled.

00:15:41.660 It would be unbelievable.

00:15:44.320 Just that.

00:15:44.740 And just that would push us into a new stratosphere that would give us time to save the republic.

00:15:53.740 It'd be awesome.

00:15:55.180 I love it.

00:15:56.180 Pat, thank you so much for joining us.

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00:16:56.340 Now back to the podcast.

00:16:58.340 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:17:00.720 Well, let's say hello to the one and only Carol Roth.

00:17:05.720 Hello, Carol.

00:17:07.000 Hi, Glenn.

00:17:07.860 How are you?

00:17:08.560 I'm pretty good.

00:17:09.660 I'm pretty good.

00:17:10.360 You know, I'm feeling very optimistic.

00:17:13.100 And I don't want anybody to knock me down from the street.

00:17:15.740 But I'm feeling like we finally have everything I have asked for in a leader.

00:17:21.880 Somebody who is pointing to the horizon and giving us a huge goal like JFK did.

00:17:27.620 We're going to go to the moon and come back within 10 years.

00:17:30.860 I think with the with the Doge announcement yesterday, I think he's saying I'm going to

00:17:38.000 cut the regulations.

00:17:38.860 I'm going to cut the size of government and I'm going to give the Constitution and the

00:17:43.320 government back to the people by July 4, 2026, which is our 250th birthday.

00:17:50.060 It's exciting.

00:17:51.680 It is exciting.

00:17:52.680 It is an uncomfortable place for you to be because I know that you're usually a contrarian.

00:17:58.080 And you're a person who gets on the book boat and looks for the exits.

00:18:00.740 Like, are you dealing with all this optimism?

00:18:03.040 OK, I don't know yet.

00:18:05.140 I don't know.

00:18:06.360 It's weird.

00:18:07.620 I haven't been this optimistic.

00:18:09.820 I don't even know.

00:18:10.740 For 15, 20 years, I have been just seeing the burning down.

00:18:15.240 And I recognize that this is not going to be easy.

00:18:19.560 They are going to throw.

00:18:20.600 They're just they're not going to roll over.

00:18:22.460 They are going to throw everything at us.

00:18:25.240 So it's going to be ugly.

00:18:26.980 But from now until, you know, things get ugly, I think we should enjoy this time and, you

00:18:33.820 know, mentally prepare.

00:18:35.220 But take a breath and just relax.

00:18:37.880 You know, I amen to that.

00:18:40.140 I'm with you on that.

00:18:41.540 We have had such a weight on our shoulders, like you said, for a couple of decades.

00:18:45.780 And it's really accelerated in the last five years.

00:18:49.260 And the fact of the matter is that now we do have optimism, we have a mandate, we have

00:18:55.280 a path forward.

00:18:56.640 And as you said, it's not an easy path to navigate.

00:18:59.480 It's one that is full of, you know, pebbles and rocks and barriers.

00:19:03.900 But that being said, there's a path.

00:19:06.240 And so, yes, we always need to be prepared.

00:19:08.760 You know, that that's it.

00:19:09.600 That's a nonstarter.

00:19:11.240 But we cannot live with this giant cloud.

00:19:14.200 We do have to, you know, hope for the best and, you know, make that optimism self-fulfilling,

00:19:19.420 do what we can to push forward this opportunity for the American dream to be seized by everybody.

00:19:25.560 OK, I don't believe anybody's appointment until you see it on Truth Social.

00:19:30.280 OK, right.

00:19:31.680 He I personally think he is he's checking the boat for leaks right now.

00:19:37.920 You know, I think some of these names are just being said, oh, you know, the only person

00:19:42.540 I told was you.

00:19:44.520 So he's checking his own boat for leaks, I think.

00:19:47.580 But one of the names being touted and thrown around for the Treasury pick is somebody I

00:19:54.300 I don't know.

00:19:55.160 Scott Besant.

00:19:56.580 Besant.

00:19:57.380 Besant.

00:19:58.500 Besant.

00:19:59.240 Besant.

00:19:59.960 Besant.

00:20:00.320 Yes.

00:20:00.600 OK, who is that?

00:20:01.900 Say that 10 times fast.

00:20:03.400 Besant, Besant, Besant, Besant, Besant, Besant.

00:20:05.440 OK, who is who is he?

00:20:08.900 So obviously the Treasury secretary pick, let's just put it on the table, is going to be better

00:20:14.420 than Janet Yellen.

00:20:15.560 Yeah, anybody.

00:20:16.440 Anybody.

00:20:17.680 I would be better.

00:20:19.080 Yeah. 0.90

00:20:19.500 You, a sock puppet, a random name out of a phone book, whatever it is, is going to be 0.84

00:20:24.400 better than Janet Yellen.

00:20:25.680 The Trump administration tends to go for the jockeying of the the billionaires and the Wall

00:20:30.840 Street type.

00:20:31.500 So that's that's what you're looking at.

00:20:33.020 Scott Besant is interesting because he is not necessarily famous, but he is famous for

00:20:39.400 the people who he's been associated with.

00:20:41.640 Yeah, this and this is troubling.

00:20:43.700 So I'm going to set it up and everybody's going to go.

00:20:47.520 And then let me let me walk it back a little bit.

00:20:49.900 So he was he started early in his career at the Soros Funds and he ended up being the CIO

00:20:59.620 of the Soros Fund and the likely successor to George Soros, which I know right now everybody

00:21:05.940 just fell over in their chairs and has a cold sweat running down.

00:21:10.180 Right.

00:21:10.800 What I need to tell you about that is that it's almost like separating the art from the

00:21:16.160 artist.

00:21:16.700 You know, there are all these bad people who, you know, you enjoy their art, but you don't

00:21:20.680 like the people they're associated with or, you know, that kind of a thing. 0.77

00:21:24.180 George Soros for I would I would say that he is a repugnant human being, but I'm not 0.99

00:21:29.840 sure that I want to call him human. 1.00

00:21:31.240 So I'll just call him a repugnant being. 1.00

00:21:33.600 OK, all right. 1.00

00:21:34.560 So everybody knows that.

00:21:36.040 OK, but in financial circles, if you put that aside, he is an incredibly savvy, astute

00:21:43.560 investor.

00:21:44.420 And the best of the best people on Wall Street have been associated with Soros at different

00:21:50.180 points in time, including one of my favorite billionaires, because we all have always have

00:21:54.120 to have our favorite billionaires on Wall Street, a gentleman by the name of Stanley

00:21:57.000 Druckenmiller, who is probably the most common sense, rational, like fantastic guy that, you

00:22:04.340 know, honestly, we would all love him to be in the administration.

00:22:07.100 But he's, I think, a bit older.

00:22:09.180 But he was the one he was basically Scott Besson was Stanley Druckenmiller's protege at Soros,

00:22:14.640 his quantum fund.

00:22:15.580 They did in the early 90s.

00:22:17.820 You may have heard about this infamous bet against the British pound that netted them

00:22:22.320 a billion dollars.

00:22:23.700 That was the team.

00:22:25.260 So he's super smart.

00:22:26.800 And from a political standpoint, he has pushed back against Soros.

00:22:30.900 I think the the most famous time was in 2014 when Soros got pressure from his allies to

00:22:38.200 divest from Israel.

00:22:39.920 And Scott Besson went into his office with a team of people and said, if you do this, we

00:22:45.020 are going to resign.

00:22:46.500 And so that to me says this is somebody who's willing to stand up for his principles and,

00:22:54.560 you know, not let who somebody like George Soros, who, you know, again, you're his CIO,

00:22:59.080 you're supposed to be a successor.

00:23:00.680 He didn't let him push him around.

00:23:02.260 And so I think that should give people I'm not saying take it, you know, he's, you know,

00:23:07.820 that you should throw away every reservation that you have.

00:23:10.620 But he's somebody who's proven that he does not approve of Soros is and is very unlikely

00:23:17.320 to be, you know, a puppet as you might think.

00:23:21.620 Is he a guy that will come in? 0.86

00:23:23.500 I mean, we've got to cut all of this DEI crap, all of this public private partnership

00:23:30.600 bullcrap, all of that that has been laid deep into the Treasury Department. 0.90

00:23:35.980 Is he a guy that will recognize that and come in and just cut it all out? 0.98

00:23:40.000 We can't we cannot have a halfway person. 1.00

00:23:43.680 They got to be deeply into the boat.

00:23:45.480 Yeah, no, he is a no nonsense, nuts and bolts, doesn't want any of this, you know,

00:23:52.140 stuff that is not financially related around it.

00:23:55.140 I think my biggest concern, and this is going to sound very funny, is that the guy's too smart.

00:24:00.700 This may be the smartest person that we have for Treasury Secretary, you know, potentially

00:24:06.180 in our history.

00:24:07.140 And the issue with that is that he may be unchecked, that his ideas are so sophisticated.

00:24:13.120 This is somebody who understands currencies, who understands central banks, who's dealt

00:24:17.360 with financial markets.

00:24:18.760 I mean, he has so much domain experience in all of these different areas, which is very

00:24:23.560 difficult in finance.

00:24:24.660 Usually you're kind of a specialist in one area that he may have an idea and nobody else

00:24:29.960 is going to be there to go, well, you know, why are you going in this direction or whatnot?

00:24:35.480 He said a couple of kind of crazy things that I just put on your radar.

00:24:39.200 One is that my biggest red flag is that his favorite Treasury Secretary was Robert Rubin,

00:24:45.100 who was the Treasury Secretary under President Clinton, who repealed the key provisions of

00:24:50.760 glass deal that allowed commercial banks to go into investment banking, which we all know

00:24:55.080 has been an epic disaster.

00:24:57.220 So he is going to be somebody who probably leans into bank deregulation.

00:25:01.640 So red flag there.

00:25:02.760 He has come up with the idea of having a shadow fed to basically reduce Jerome Powell's power,

00:25:11.800 which, you know, as you may think, well, that sounds like a great idea until you realize

00:25:15.520 if you can do that under Trump, you can do that under anyone else.

00:25:18.520 And I think that's a very bad precedent and could create a lot of consternation in the market.

00:25:24.080 So we don't want that either.

00:25:25.620 And then the third one is that he has this 333 plan.

00:25:29.520 It's not the 999 plan that, you know, we used to have from Herman Cain.

00:25:32.760 It's the 333 plan that was he said was based on Shinzo Abe of Japan, rest in peace, his

00:25:40.820 Three Arrows plan.

00:25:42.360 And it sounds different, but Shinzo Abe's plan is not one we would want here because it's

00:25:47.460 very much, you know, Fed intervention, fiscal stimulus from the government, as well as regulatory

00:25:53.640 reforms.

00:25:54.460 Now, he's saying his 333 plan is going to be different.

00:25:57.520 He wants to reduce the deficits to GDP to less than half of what they are, 3%.

00:26:03.440 He wants to increase GDP growth 3% on an ongoing basis.

00:26:08.820 And he wants to tamp down on inflation by producing three million barrels of oil a day.

00:26:15.860 So as long as it, you know, that it was inspired, but it's not the same.

00:26:20.540 So I think those are the kinds of things that you have to kind of get in the weeds on.

00:26:24.660 But he's certainly somebody who understands the issues we face, which, by the way, are

00:26:29.400 numerous.

00:26:30.420 They have left us a huge mess, the Biden-Harris administration, in terms of our fiscal foundation.

00:26:35.040 And by the way, refinancing $13 trillion of debt over the next four years, as well as any

00:26:42.000 new debt that needs to be financed.

00:26:43.460 So we need somebody really savvy.

00:26:46.480 And so I would say, guys, don't focus on the Soros connection here.

00:26:50.720 Focus on the policy.

00:26:52.480 And is this person maybe a little bit too smart for the position?

00:26:56.680 Okay.

00:26:56.980 Hang on just a sec, because I read something from Ed Dowd today.

00:27:00.980 And he said, we have been handed a book, a record book of fraudulent, you know, records

00:27:13.220 of the economy.

00:27:14.420 He says it's all a fraud.

00:27:16.260 And he thinks we are in real trouble.

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00:27:29.380 All righty.

00:27:30.480 Welcome to the program.

00:27:31.940 So the president right now is meeting with the House.

00:27:37.120 I don't think he's going to meet with the Senate today, but then he's going right over

00:27:41.300 to the White House and he is going to meet with President Biden.

00:27:45.220 That is going to be an interesting photo opportunity with both of them sitting by the fireplace.

00:27:50.460 But no Melania, Dr. Jill.

00:27:52.800 Yeah, good.

00:27:53.480 I'm glad.

00:27:54.180 Oh, totally.

00:27:54.880 I am so happy for Melania.

00:27:56.480 She has been the most maligned, mistreated first lady ever. 1.00

00:28:02.220 She's done nothing.

00:28:03.300 It's not like Hillary Clinton where she inserted herself into everything and made herself a 1.00

00:28:08.060 polarizing figure.

00:28:09.220 Right.

00:28:09.560 She never did anything.

00:28:11.220 No.

00:28:11.500 She just sat back and tried to be nice to people. 1.00

00:28:13.260 And tried to restore the White House back to Jackie O's original plan.

00:28:19.300 That garden she did, she got raked over the. 1.00

00:28:21.280 That is an abomination.

00:28:22.920 She went right off of Jackie O's plan. 1.00

00:28:26.840 It's not like this case.

00:28:27.900 She came up with this herself.

00:28:29.560 She restored it to the Kennedy years.

00:28:32.240 And it's an abomination. 1.00

00:28:33.240 Oh, shut up. 1.00

00:28:35.240 Anyway, they're just they're whining about it. 0.99

00:28:37.320 And it's like it's never been it's been it's understandable for you to dislike a political

00:28:42.380 opponent.

00:28:43.140 Yeah.

00:28:43.240 Like she's not a political.

00:28:44.460 No, she's not.

00:28:45.160 OK.

00:28:45.940 We have Clint Brown on.

00:28:48.060 He is a guy who was the executive director for the Senate Steering Committee for the Senate

00:28:53.340 and the United States Senate.

00:28:54.260 He also has held positions at Pacific Legal Foundation as legal policy director, multiple

00:29:00.460 roles with the U.S.

00:29:01.700 Senate, including policy director for the Senate Steering Committee, assistant counsel for the

00:29:06.000 Senate Budget Committee, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:29:08.260 He is now the vice president of government relations at the Heritage Foundation and an adjunct

00:29:14.720 professor at the University of Alabama School of Law.

00:29:17.940 Clint, welcome to the program.

00:29:19.400 Can you help us break down what's going to happen today with the Senate?

00:29:26.920 Yes.

00:29:27.440 Thanks so much for having me on, Glenn.

00:29:28.980 You bet.

00:29:29.540 So what's going to happen today is they're voting this morning on who's going to be the

00:29:34.440 next Senate leader.

00:29:35.400 They're going to vote for positions all the way down from Senate leader to conference leader.

00:29:40.340 These are several positions that a lot of people don't know about.

00:29:42.880 Everybody sees the face of the majority leader.

00:29:46.160 That's where the fight is centered.

00:29:47.360 This morning, they're giving nominating speeches.

00:29:51.660 Senators Tillis, Senator Tillis is giving the nominating speech for Senator Cornyn.

00:29:57.480 But interestingly, Senators Rubio and Hagerty are giving the speech for Rick Scott.

00:30:03.980 Now, a couple of years ago when Rick Scott ran, it was Mike Lee giving that speech, Ron

00:30:09.540 Johnson, conservative right wing, you know, troublemakers.

00:30:13.520 Now, it's our potentially next secretary of state.

00:30:17.980 So what does that tell you?

00:30:19.880 Because he's in second place, according to the latest numbers, and we don't know if they're

00:30:23.460 true or not, but he is in second place behind Thune.

00:30:29.120 That's right.

00:30:31.820 We don't know the numbers, but what it tells me is the conference, the Republican conference

00:30:36.660 has moved the way of conservatives.

00:30:39.220 And even the hill rags who don't really know what's going on in America like your listeners

00:30:42.940 do, they're now admitting it.

00:30:45.420 This morning, Punchbowl said, regardless of who wins, the Senate could look and act differently

00:30:51.220 next year, due in large part to Scott and Senator Mike Lee, banging the drum for years about

00:30:57.660 the need for an overhaul in the Senate.

00:31:01.140 So conservatives are winning this battle, no matter who becomes the leader.

00:31:04.920 They're all moving our way.

00:31:07.340 So what do you think of Thune?

00:31:10.160 Isn't he just going to be almost the same kind of guy that, what's his name was?

00:31:17.760 You know, turtle face.

00:31:18.540 McConnell, I never remember his name.

00:31:22.180 McConnell?

00:31:22.840 Yeah, that guy, that guy who's always in our way.

00:31:25.460 Yeah.

00:31:26.440 So Thune, I would think, would be a little bit more McConnell aligned.

00:31:30.820 That is his reputation.

00:31:34.080 But the conference has changed so much.

00:31:37.280 Republicans have started to say, hey, wait a minute.

00:31:40.240 Why didn't McConnell let me amend legislation?

00:31:42.920 Why did he put bills up, negotiated in the back room, on the floor with five minutes to

00:31:47.200 go before the deadline?

00:31:48.540 The conference, the Republican senators who choose the leader, they are mad about that.

00:31:54.240 So Thune is going to have to change the way business is done, even if he wins, to accommodate

00:31:58.840 what they want.

00:32:00.220 Or frankly, he may not last as long as McConnell did.

00:32:03.680 Let's put it that way.

00:32:04.460 Well, that would be great.

00:32:05.580 I mean, McConnell, I think, is an eternal figure at this point.

00:32:10.660 I don't remember a time really when McConnell wasn't in charge of things.

00:32:15.360 So what does a vote mean for Thune?

00:32:19.380 That the majority still is kind of on the fence and they just kind of want business as usual,

00:32:26.040 kind of, but not totally business as usual?

00:32:29.460 Yeah, there's so many factors that go into this.

00:32:33.540 You know, it's really a small institution.

00:32:35.320 It's 53 Republican senators.

00:32:36.840 They all know each other.

00:32:38.280 They travel together.

00:32:39.640 Their wives know each other.

00:32:40.660 It's very personal.

00:32:42.140 For a lot of them, it comes down to fundraising.

00:32:45.460 For most of them, it comes down to how the senators run.

00:32:49.620 What are you going to do to make my life better?

00:32:52.160 And for a select few, it comes down to certain issues.

00:32:55.640 So a vote for Thune could be about fundraising.

00:32:59.160 It could be about personal relationship, or it could be about his position on a select

00:33:02.800 few issues that, you know, maybe more swampy Republicans want to get a deal on some earmark

00:33:08.900 that Thune has promised them.

00:33:10.080 Perhaps.

00:33:10.520 I don't know.

00:33:11.600 What do you say to the call for this should be in open air?

00:33:16.760 This shouldn't be a secret vote.

00:33:19.040 I would like to know where senators stand on this, and I think most of your listeners

00:33:25.000 would, too.

00:33:26.540 I understand why they don't want it to be.

00:33:29.120 Right.

00:33:29.280 Because imagine, you know, at your workplace, you get to vote on who gets the promotion.

00:33:33.120 You have to select from three of your friends, and then you have to work with that person.

00:33:37.360 Correct.

00:33:37.760 You didn't vote for the guy that got the promotion.

00:33:40.220 Sorry, you're not getting that vacation time you wanted.

00:33:43.780 There's certainly an element of retribution, and it protects senators to actually be able to

00:33:48.200 vote their conscience for someone like Rick Scott if they don't face retribution for it.

00:33:55.340 Now, they could still, because they've come out publicly for him, and that's a brave stand.

00:34:00.500 What do you—why do you think Donald Trump hasn't weighed in on this at all?

00:34:04.660 I mean, it would be Scott if he just said, this is who I want.

00:34:08.380 It probably would be him.

00:34:09.840 Why is he not doing that?

00:34:11.640 He took a very smart approach to this.

00:34:14.360 I certainly think he could move the conference if he did, but he has the same dynamic these

00:34:18.940 senators have.

00:34:19.780 He's got to work with the winner.

00:34:21.440 So what he did is he said, I want the winner, whoever it is, to commit to moving my nominations

00:34:28.360 fast and first.

00:34:30.580 And if you don't, I want you to do recess appointments.

00:34:33.120 He made it about the issues.

00:34:34.700 He made it about how the place is run and fulfilling his agenda rather than about personalities.

00:34:40.280 And I think that was very smart.

00:34:41.900 It's art of the deal once again.

00:34:45.580 When you look at this, if Trump—he's got to have the Senate move and move quickly.

00:34:54.000 He's got 100 days.

00:34:55.140 He needs to move things massively fast.

00:35:00.960 If you have a Thune and he begins to become an obstructionist, does the president have the 0.65

00:35:08.340 ability to say, J.D. Vance, go in there and take control of the Senate and do what John

00:35:12.920 Adams did?

00:35:15.000 Absolutely.

00:35:15.880 So you've talked about this.

00:35:17.680 You've been great about it.

00:35:18.520 There is a little known procedure in the Senate that gives the majority leader the right to

00:35:23.540 be recognized on the floor first.

00:35:26.060 Who decides to recognize them?

00:35:27.760 The person sitting in the chair at the front of the room.

00:35:30.400 That chair belongs to J.D. Vance.

00:35:32.460 Anybody else sitting in that chair is borrowing his seat.

00:35:34.920 He can walk in the room, kick them out, take the seat, and recognize whoever he wants who

00:35:40.480 is going to move his—President Trump's nominees.

00:35:44.540 So he can actually decide, really, who's running the show.

00:35:48.920 Why haven't they done that in the past?

00:35:50.680 There was talk in the last Trump administration of doing this.

00:35:56.140 I ultimately don't know why they decided not to.

00:35:58.820 There's always a negotiation about these kind of things.

00:36:01.680 Having the threat of doing that is certainly powerful.

00:36:06.900 And maybe Pence just wasn't comfortable with it.

00:36:09.860 J.D. would probably be a lot more comfortable with that.

00:36:12.120 Oh, yeah.

00:36:12.360 He's been a senator.

00:36:13.220 Since you're an attorney, and this is unfair to spring on you here, but I don't know if

00:36:20.060 you've seen the Doge announcement that came out yesterday from Donald Trump about cutting

00:36:28.360 the size of government.

00:36:30.080 And Ramaswamy said, this is not policy.

00:36:32.180 This is just a thought experiment at this point.

00:36:34.660 But if we wanted to fire half of the administration, we can do it just by holding a lottery, and

00:36:42.400 it's odd or even.

00:36:43.480 We pull one from a bowl, and if it says odd, then everybody whose Social Security number

00:36:51.680 ends in an odd number is fired.

00:36:53.880 That way, we don't have any litigation or anything else.

00:36:58.920 What do you think of that idea?

00:37:00.140 Can it be done?

00:37:01.900 You know, I don't know the legal ins and outs of that idea, but certainly the federal government

00:37:06.000 needs the ability to do layoffs.

00:37:08.880 And that would probably need some funding decisions from Congress.

00:37:13.580 But at the end of the day, the president can take that money and, you know, it's assigned

00:37:19.420 by Congress to certain things, but he can decide how to execute on that.

00:37:24.440 And if he doesn't have the right people in there, if government's too big, which we think

00:37:28.780 it is, we know it is, then he should have the ability to do mass layoffs like any company

00:37:34.200 would.

00:37:34.760 It's crazy that we can't.

00:37:36.360 Right.

00:37:36.460 And if the executive is not in charge of the executive branch of all of the cabinet and

00:37:45.860 all of the agencies, then he works for the people that haven't been elected, not the

00:37:52.220 other way around.

00:37:53.260 Correct?

00:37:54.420 That's right.

00:37:55.220 It's putting the cart before the horse.

00:37:57.400 It's putting the administrative state in charge of the government, which is the entire problem

00:38:02.840 that we have right now with the executive branch.

00:38:05.000 So the president needs the ability to decide who is executing on his agenda and whether

00:38:10.720 they're doing it the right way or not.

00:38:13.500 It is great to talk to you there.

00:38:15.420 I think they're going in to vote right now, Clint, or it was at last hour.

00:38:20.980 No, I'm looking at Eastern time now.

00:38:22.780 They're voting right now for the Senate, I believe, or at least the process begins right

00:38:28.580 now.

00:38:28.860 So we will see.

00:38:29.740 Thank you so much for your insight.

00:38:31.200 I appreciate it.

00:38:32.440 Thank you, Glenn.

00:38:33.200 You got it.

00:38:33.840 Clint Brown.

00:38:35.000 Na, na, na, na, na.

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