The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Daniel Hannan, Bill O'Reilly, Gavin Edwards & Cam Edwards ｜ 12⧸13⧸19

00:00:00.000 Hello, America. It's Friday. Great, great episode for you today.

00:00:05.380 Gee, the lessons that maybe the left here in America should learn from what happened in London and England yesterday, probably pretty important.

00:00:17.080 We have Daniel Hannon on to talk about that. Bill O'Reilly joins us.

00:00:21.520 We we we talk about licensing and how important licensing really is.

00:00:27.200 We have Cam Edwards in the Second Amendment sanctuary cities. 0.96

00:00:31.920 What's happening in Virginia is crazy.

00:00:35.360 Also, Mr. Rogers, a new book out, Kindness and Wonder by Gavin Edwards.

00:00:41.380 Great conversation on that all on today's podcast.

00:00:50.880 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:00:57.200 Bill O'Reilly. Bill O'Reilly is coming up in just a second.

00:01:04.000 Stand by for that. You're listening to the Reverend Dr.

00:01:07.420 Colonel Beck program. And and I take all of those titles seriously.

00:01:13.040 All of them. And you should do.

00:01:15.040 So we have we have Daniel Hannon coming on.

00:01:19.960 We're trying to connect with him now and an overseas transatlantic cable connection.

00:01:26.420 We had him on 10 years ago after he gave this great speech in the EU where he's like basically saying.

00:01:33.340 Europe, England, you should fire me.

00:01:38.260 I don't want this job anymore.

00:01:39.940 We shouldn't be here.

00:01:41.520 And it was such a compelling speech.

00:01:44.420 And then what?

00:01:45.480 Three years ago we had him on.

00:01:47.100 We're like, congratulations.

00:01:48.720 You did it.

00:01:49.400 You did it.

00:01:50.100 And he was like, yeah, well, we think so.

00:01:54.480 But they tend to be a little sticky.

00:01:57.460 And now we're having him on after the second referendum.

00:02:01.240 And this was just this a full election.

00:02:03.840 And Boris Johnson swept.

00:02:06.640 And you can give the credit to Boris Johnson.

00:02:08.740 But really, it's Daniel Hannon.

00:02:10.680 This is his movement.

00:02:12.680 The Brexit movement is is his. 0.85

00:02:15.200 Now, there's two sides of this.

00:02:17.700 Daniel Hannon is the guy who really we should talk to him about this.

00:02:21.920 There's this great show on I think it was.

00:02:25.100 Amazon where who's what's his name?

00:02:29.740 Cumberbun.

00:02:30.740 Benedict Cumberbatch.

00:02:32.060 Yes.

00:02:32.420 He played.

00:02:35.340 Who was it?

00:02:36.340 It wasn't Hannon.

00:02:37.000 No, Hannon was in.

00:02:38.020 But Hannon was portrayed in the movie.

00:02:39.580 You're talking.

00:02:39.880 I think it was I thought it was like a Showtime or HBO show.

00:02:42.140 I think called Brexit.

00:02:43.440 Called Brexit. 0.52

00:02:44.100 Yeah.

00:02:44.360 And I don't know any of the I don't know any of.

00:02:47.180 The, you know, politics over there.

00:02:49.340 But it seemed pretty fair and good.

00:02:52.580 And they portrayed Daniel Hannon really well.

00:02:55.500 Really well.

00:02:56.240 Yeah.

00:02:56.460 And in fact, at least I mean, I'm sure for him there may have been issues with it.

00:03:00.460 But generally speaking, it was from here.

00:03:02.120 It looked pretty good.

00:03:02.820 Yeah.

00:03:03.200 They actually treated him with respect.

00:03:04.800 Hang on just a sec.

00:03:05.380 Daniel's on the phone.

00:03:06.040 Daniel Hannon.

00:03:07.920 Hey, Glenn.

00:03:08.580 How are you?

00:03:08.940 Very good.

00:03:09.680 Congratulations, sir.

00:03:10.940 For a second time.

00:03:12.180 Thank you.

00:03:12.640 No, don't congratulate me.

00:03:13.840 Congratulate the country that can still hold its head high.

00:03:16.360 They're having rejected Marxism and anti-Semitism.

00:03:18.920 I mean, it is crazy.

00:03:20.500 It is crazy.

00:03:21.200 I heard one of the Labour Party leaders yesterday say, you know, you just can't go against democracy.

00:03:25.740 You just you can't just not listen to the people like what an idea.

00:03:30.360 Maybe we should think about that here in the United States.

00:03:33.460 I actually think you have just unerringly put your finger on what the single biggest sentiment behind this vote was.

00:03:41.280 You know, we voted to leave the European Union three years ago.

00:03:44.620 We voted to leave in bigger numbers than British people have ever voted for anything.

00:03:48.780 And I think a lot of the kind of pro-Brussels elite thought we didn't mean it.

00:03:53.580 Yes.

00:03:53.860 But it was a kind of a joke.

00:03:55.420 And that if you know that if they hectored us and lectured us, we would do as we were told by our betters.

00:04:01.380 And I'm I'm very glad that I live in a stubborn, stiff necked country where people just don't react like that.

00:04:07.140 And if I'm not mistaken, there were people that voted to stay in the EU last time that were voting this time saying, you know what?

00:04:14.320 No, you've got to listen to the people.

00:04:17.460 Is that true?

00:04:18.560 Yes.

00:04:18.820 I mean, I think we all we all anecdotally know people like that.

00:04:22.960 We all have friends and neighbours in that category.

00:04:24.900 And the figures bear it out.

00:04:27.060 This was this was a pro-democracy vote.

00:04:31.080 And it was also I think it's really important to stress this.

00:04:33.920 It's a remarkably kind of mainstream and moderate vote, because although the although his opponents have tried rather unconvincingly to paint Boris Johnson as some kind of fringe or far right figure, he's actually very much in the political centre.

00:04:51.220 The only way you can call him extreme is if you regard Brexit as extreme, if you're calling a majority of the electorate extreme.

00:04:57.700 In other words, if you think that it's extreme for any country to want to live under its own laws and its own institutions, you know, something that the rest of the world takes for granted.

00:05:06.260 So the real extremists here were the socialist revolutionaries on the other side, and the country politely said no to them.

00:05:13.700 Because he is really more of a populist.

00:05:15.840 I mean, he kind of goes where the people are, does he not?

00:05:18.340 Well, I mean, so Boris is politically very much in the mainstream.

00:05:26.840 He's, you know, his character is very large.

00:05:29.940 He has a very florid and colourful way with words.

00:05:32.720 He has a brilliant intellect.

00:05:33.560 But his politics are fairly traditional conservative politics.

00:05:37.560 Jeremy Corbyn, who is a much more kind of normal kind of guy in terms of his background and his appearance and so on, is absolutely from outside the mainstream.

00:05:52.000 Something we've never really had an unapologetic Marxist leading one of them.

00:05:57.180 Right.

00:05:57.380 He's a Marxist. 0.79

00:05:59.000 He's a virile anti-Semitic figure.

00:06:04.320 It seems to really hate Great Britain and what it's stood for forever, going way, way back with him.

00:06:14.080 I don't think he personally, I want to be as fair as I can, I don't think he personally is anti-Semitic.

00:06:18.860 But he is so self-righteous that he could not acknowledge or accept that his party had a problem with anti-Semitism, which comes out of this bizarre alliance between the extreme left and the Islamic jihadi types.

00:06:34.320 And because he's so convinced that we're the lefties, we're the good guys, he just couldn't bring himself to accept that the problem existed.

00:06:40.340 So who is, boy, that's very gracious of you to say that about him.

00:06:43.900 How much of this was about him as well, as the British people saying, we don't want what he is selling beyond Brexit?

00:06:56.700 Yeah, I think it was very, I think that was a very large part of it.

00:07:03.060 Britain is unusual in two respects compared to Europe politically.

00:07:09.540 In modern times, we have never had an anti-Semitic party anywhere near power.

00:07:14.520 Of course, we have had individual anti-Semites down the years, just as you have, just as every other country in the world has.

00:07:20.320 But they've never before infiltrated one of the major parties.

00:07:22.900 That is new and was outside our experience.

00:07:25.580 Second, and again, this is very different from almost every country in Europe, we never had any significant Communist Party.

00:07:32.780 There was never any parliamentary movement that was Marxist in its orientation until now.

00:07:38.180 And those two things came together in the last couple of years under this Labour leadership.

00:07:43.520 And, you know, I think a country which deep down is a commonsensical, level-headed, fair-minded country just thought, you know what, that is not the kind of people we are.

00:07:53.560 So I'm very glad that we've kept our record intact as a country that has nothing to do either with anti-Semitic conspiracy theories or with revolutionary.

00:08:02.360 What should Washington and those in our parties here take as the lesson for America?

00:08:09.600 Well, people are wiser than their leaders, and people want representatives, legislators and elected representatives who remember that they are servants and not rulers.

00:08:25.760 When we voted Leave, you know, it wasn't in a spirit of light banter.

00:08:30.880 We really meant it.

00:08:31.800 And for three years, we've been told by our supposed intellectual elites that we didn't understand what we were voting for, we got it wrong, and so on.

00:08:41.820 And we can see, first of all, that all of their predictions of disaster have conspicuously failed.

00:08:46.500 I mean, the British pound, the pound sterling and the straight line up beating the dollar the minute the BBC said looks like it's going to be the Conservatives in a landslide.

00:08:59.540 I mean, it was straight line up.

00:09:02.160 Right.

00:09:02.760 And that proved something which up until now I was only able to argue, but I can now point, as the rest of us can, to some evidence, which is that the real problem holding back our economy and holding back –

00:09:17.740 we've done okay, but we could have been doing even better – was not Brexit.

00:09:21.680 It was fear of a Corbyn-led government.

00:09:24.220 And now that that fear has been removed, I think that there will be a flood of pent-up investment into the UK economy because businesses that were holding back –

00:09:35.440 you know, do you open a restaurant, do you buy a house, do you – you know, no one wanted to make those decisions as long as there was a prospect of a communist prime minister who was prepared to expropriate private assets.

00:09:48.360 And now that that has been removed, I think the UK economy is now poised to take off.

00:09:54.040 Are you going to actually leave by the end of January?

00:09:59.040 Yes.

00:09:59.740 2020.

00:10:02.720 We will – yeah, to be absolutely clear, fair point.

00:10:08.660 Yes, we will leave at 11 p.m., 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on the 31st of January.

00:10:18.460 Daniel, the two main factors here, at least from the outsider perspective, are Jeremy Corbyn's an extremist, and the British people wanted to say, you know, democracy counts.

00:10:26.900 We know this vote happened, and we need to honour it.

00:10:30.000 If you had to give a kind of a split, what was the bigger factor there?

00:10:33.700 Very – I mean, you're quite right.

00:10:36.600 Those were the two main factors, and they're very linked because, you know, the refusal to acknowledge democracy kind of confirmed all the negatives people had about, well, hang on, is this a party that would ever behead constitutionally?

00:10:51.680 There's one third factor, though, in this, which I think is only fair to nod at, which is the personal popularity of Boris Johnson and his ability to connect with voters in seats that had a cultural, hereditary, or tribal affiliation with Labour, which almost made it impossible for them to look at a conservative candidate because of all the connotations that they'd grown up with.

00:11:18.000 And Boris has swept all of that away, and the whole electoral map looks different now.

00:11:24.400 We had a better vote for the Conservative Party than we've had since Margaret Thatcher at her height.

00:11:29.520 Is he Thatcher, or is he more like Churchill?

00:11:31.500 I mean, he is politically much more within the Churchill tradition of sort of, you know, moderate patriotic Toryism.

00:11:44.940 You probably know that Boris wrote a book about –

00:11:47.880 Oh, it's one of my favorite books.

00:11:50.720 Right. It was written off by a lot of the critics who sneered at it, and what they said was Boris has kind of refashioned the great wartime leader into a prop in his own drama.

00:12:02.320 So Churchill, who emerges from the pages of his book, is this right-wing journalist and witty after-dinner speaker who is kind of cruelly overlooked by the party elites until the moment of crisis.

00:12:12.140 Now, I actually don't think that criticism is entirely fair.

00:12:16.580 Boris is not comparing himself to Churchill, but I think it is probably true that he was inspired by elements of Churchill's story,

00:12:24.500 and in particular by the way in which the great man put all of the kind of boozing and the unseriousness and the silly friends behind him and rose to the occasion.

00:12:37.060 And I think he very much sees this as his moment to rise to the occasion.

00:12:40.560 All right, so speaking of silly friends behind him, if you were in America, you were wondering when you heard him speak last night why Elmo and a weird Darth Vader was standing behind him and why you allowed Elmo to take his head off.

00:12:55.820 Isn't it just glorious? Isn't it just the most wonderful thing?

00:13:00.720 What? It was like –

00:13:01.960 Even when you are the sitting prime minister, you've got to go and defend your constituency against challenges by Elmo and Lord Buckethead.

00:13:09.260 What a fantastic reminder in practice as well as in theory that we are all equal before the law and the politician is the servant of the people.

00:13:19.100 So quickly, can you tell us, was that Elmo and who was the guy in the bucket?

00:13:23.040 We have a – we've had a tradition here going back about 50 or 60 years that a number of eccentric and choke candidates stand against the main party leaders in their constituencies when there is a general election. 0.93

00:13:38.900 Shut up. 0.95

00:13:39.900 And – yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:13:42.400 And one – in fact, there is a party – the guy you're calling Darth Vader, who's changed his name by deed poll to Lord Buckethead.

00:13:49.660 He is the leader of quite an old party in Britain that began in the early 60s called the Official Monster Raving Loony Party, and it has contested every by-election, and its leader has stood against the incumbent prime minister at every election since the mid-60s.

00:14:06.560 So they are – they're actually older than our liberal Democrat party.

00:14:09.280 Unbelievable.

00:14:10.480 Unbelievable.

00:14:11.360 One last question.

00:14:13.220 The Scottish National Party did very well, and it's funny because the people were like, hey, democracy means something, and we're – we want Brexit.

00:14:26.580 Well, that's really the message of the Scottish National Party, and I think it's been the same one since Mel Gibson put blue paint on his face.

00:14:36.160 Leave us alone.

00:14:37.260 We don't want a queen. 0.99

00:14:38.560 What's going to happen with that, and how's Boris going to be able to –

00:14:42.400 Well, yeah, with the difference, of course, that when that was put to a referendum, unlike with Brexit, it was defeated.

00:14:50.060 Oh, it was.

00:14:51.220 So why did this – why did the National Party do so well in Scotland?

00:14:56.820 Well, this is interesting.

00:14:58.060 So a lot of their voters are, in fact, against independence for Scotland, but they vote for the Scottish National Party as a way of maximizing Scotland's weight in the union, if you like, where – you know, sending a message to London that they need to be taken seriously.

00:15:15.460 Or it's a very – it's a very common thing.

00:15:17.960 You get it in other places where there's a separatist feeling.

00:15:21.080 I can't see there being another referendum in the short run because, you know, we had one five years ago, and everyone said that that was it and it was going to be it for a lifetime and so on.

00:15:31.060 But I do think that we need to acknowledge the advance in the elections of the Scottish National Party, and it seems to me that the fairest thing to all sides, given that Scotland voted to stay in the UK but not by a huge margin in 2014, the fairest thing would be to try and come up with some compromise where there is more devolution for Scotland, including tax-raising powers, fiscal autonomy.

00:15:59.340 But it stops short of actually having separate embassies and so on, which I think is what the vast majority of people in Scotland say they want.

00:16:06.540 They want more autonomy but not complete breakaway.

00:16:08.600 Daniel Hannan, I have literally 10 seconds, and I'm being screamed out of my ear.

00:16:12.240 10 seconds.

00:16:13.020 Does this mean – does this push France closer to Brexit themselves or not?

00:16:18.400 I just need a yes or no question for an answer.

00:16:21.080 I don't think with France.

00:16:22.040 I think the next country to go will probably be the Netherlands.

00:16:24.980 God bless you.

00:16:25.660 Thank you very much.

00:16:26.340 Daniel Hannan, our friend from the EU, he's the ambassador of the EU, or the representative or whatever.

00:16:37.720 The best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:16:39.540 Hey, it's Glenn, and you're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:16:57.580 I'm going to start with this.

00:16:58.560 Bill O'Reilly, welcome to the program.

00:17:00.100 What is the biggest story of the week, in your opinion?

00:17:03.380 I'm on now.

00:17:06.160 It's my turn.

00:17:06.900 It's your turn.

00:17:07.680 Yes.

00:17:08.280 Excellent.

00:17:08.780 All right.

00:17:09.600 Excellent.

00:17:10.520 Welcome.

00:17:12.060 The biggest story that I took out of all the chaos this week, there were actually two very important stories for Americans that have implications going forward.

00:17:23.100 The first one is that it is clear to me that the FBI was out of control.

00:17:31.040 So the most powerful investigative agency in the world, not just in the country, was basically running a bunco scheme. 0.97

00:17:43.060 Remember those old detective shows?

00:17:44.680 It's a jack-whip-bunko scheme.

00:17:47.420 And it is clear, there's no denying it, that they basically colluded, love that word.

00:17:56.920 Where did I hear that before?

00:17:57.860 Colluded?

00:17:58.540 Mm-hmm.

00:17:58.920 The FBI colluded to get, with quotes around get, Donald Trump.

00:18:05.680 So-

00:18:06.680 Before and after the 2016 election.

00:18:09.700 That's the big, big story that all Americans should be very unsettled about.

00:18:15.300 Go ahead, your follow-up question.

00:18:16.860 So my son said to me, now he's 15, and we were talking about it.

00:18:21.260 He said, Dad, what happened with the FBI?

00:18:24.040 And I told him.

00:18:25.360 And he sat there for just 30 seconds.

00:18:28.340 And he said, well, the real question is, and I was shocked to hear this come out of his mouth, who organized that?

00:18:36.780 Who was at the top of that?

00:18:38.000 Who allowed that to happen?

00:18:40.200 Who was calling the shots on this?

00:18:43.480 Yeah, a couple of weeks ago, I don't know if you remember, Stu may remember, but he might have been off because Stu's off a lot.

00:18:51.380 I told you about a K Street group called the Bonner Group.

00:18:57.260 Do you remember that?

00:18:58.000 I do remember that.

00:18:58.420 I do remember.

00:18:59.280 Okay.

00:19:00.400 So Americans don't know anything about this because it'll never be reported on in the media.

00:19:05.420 So every morning there is a conference call that comes out of this group.

00:19:13.740 They have offices.

00:19:15.240 And they are basically attached to the Democratic Party.

00:19:18.840 But far more than that, they are adherents of the secular progressive movement funded by George Soros.

00:19:26.720 Now, as soon as you mention Soros, then you're a paranoid nut or you're anti-Semitic.

00:19:30.160 You know what the media does.

00:19:31.840 All right.

00:19:32.660 But this is a true story.

00:19:35.580 So everybody in Washington who works in all of the agencies and all of the departments know about this crew.

00:19:44.340 And they know that this crew, they're activists, and they tried to advance agendas.

00:19:50.340 And the agenda, of course, in 2016 was keep Donald Trump out of the overall office.

00:19:57.300 Right?

00:19:58.480 That was the agenda of the Bonner Group.

00:20:02.480 Before that, it was destroy Fox News.

00:20:05.320 And the reason I know about this is I got caught up in this.

00:20:08.580 All right?

00:20:08.760 They hurt me.

00:20:09.520 So that's how I know so much about them, because we put our investigators and found out.

00:20:15.160 But anyway, the sole agenda in 2016 was hurt Donald Trump.

00:20:18.900 Get him.

00:20:20.180 And in that campaign, James Comey and McCabe, who McCabe's wife, you'll remember, ran for Congress as a Democrat in Virginia.

00:20:34.420 They're in that circle.

00:20:36.080 They know all these people, and they know what comes out.

00:20:41.220 So early on, and I don't believe that it was explicit.

00:20:47.460 I don't believe Comey and McCabe had a meeting, because they're way too smart for that, and told their agents, led by Peter Strzok, the infamous mistress guy with the text, get Trump, and that's our policy.

00:21:00.060 That's not what they do.

00:21:01.280 It's implied.

00:21:03.620 Implied.

00:21:04.180 And when the opening came from the bar conversation in London between Papadopoulos and the Australian guy, that was the opening that the FBI needed.

00:21:15.280 Aha.

00:21:15.800 Now we have a legitimate way to go in and try to surveil the Trump campaign, because we believe they're dirty.

00:21:22.520 It's like, you know, they know who all the organized crime people are.

00:21:25.380 They know they sell narcotics.

00:21:26.700 But they need an opening to get in and tap them.

00:21:29.920 This was the opening.

00:21:31.140 And then from there, it cascaded into illegality, where they made stuff up.

00:21:37.660 They falsified texts between the CIA and the FBI.

00:21:42.160 They do all kinds of things to get the FISA warrant.

00:21:44.420 So that's what happened.

00:21:45.980 So let me ask you this.

00:21:47.060 Why did Horowitz, the IG, come out with this, I think, the headline is mamby-pamby, because he calls them inaccuracies.

00:21:58.620 But listening to his testimony, he knows those aren't inaccuracies.

00:22:03.880 He knows that is a forgery, a setup, lying outright to the FISA court.

00:22:13.540 He knows that.

00:22:14.940 Why was the language?

00:22:16.080 Well, look, you and I, and this is absolutely true, and Beck and O'Reilly are two of the few who have pointed out that Horowitz was disingenuous, word of the day, in his testimony.

00:22:34.420 And the reason he was is he doesn't want to be attacked by the Washington Post, which is uber-powerful in D.C.

00:22:43.560 But Horowitz did tell you what you just raised.

00:22:47.660 He did say that, but he said it in such an oblique way that you'd have to be right into that swamp to know.

00:22:54.640 He said there was never an explanation for the FBI's conduct.

00:22:59.860 Now, what he should have said was, in all my years of being in the Justice Department, I have never seen anything like this.

00:23:09.160 And it strains credulity, another word of the day, to think that it was an accident, to think that these mistakes, all 17 of them, were accidents, just bad judgment.

00:23:21.460 But it's not only impossible to have 17 or 19 mistakes all fall in the one direction, the actions of changing an email and reversing it, you know, cutting out language.

00:23:38.420 The black guy is referred, he's referred, and he will be charged.

00:23:42.060 Right.

00:23:42.420 He will be charged, all right, that FBI agent who did that.

00:23:45.860 Now, did he do it on his own?

00:23:48.260 Again, why would an FBI agent put his whole career and life at stake?

00:23:53.540 For one, why?

00:23:55.300 Okay.

00:23:55.500 It doesn't make any sense.

00:23:56.660 No.

00:23:57.040 So, Mike Lee—

00:23:57.760 None of this makes any sense, but what your audience has to understand is that this Horowitz, powerful man, Inspector General of the Justice Department,

00:24:07.080 did not want to put himself at risk by telling the American people what really happened.

00:24:16.640 So he did the dance.

00:24:19.540 He told you, but he didn't really say it.

00:24:23.200 The dance is what they all do.

00:24:26.080 Okay, this is—it's getting frightening because, as Ben Sasse said, he said,

00:24:30.640 I was ashamed that I have to sit two people down from Mike Lee because I've had this argument for four years,

00:24:36.420 and I believe in the FISA system.

00:24:38.600 I believe in the FBI.

00:24:40.020 And he said, I told Mike for five years this doesn't happen.

00:24:43.580 And he said, now I have to hear this, that it is happening, and it's happening in a case where they knew this would get sunlight.

00:24:51.540 They knew this would be seen.

00:24:53.160 So if they're doing this now, what does the average American have in store with a FISA court?

00:25:01.140 We're—you're—I mean, Mike Lee came out and said—

00:25:04.280 I don't think that they knew they were going to get caught because the press covers for them.

00:25:11.200 So you've got to understand the big picture.

00:25:13.280 The only way you get caught doing corrupt activities at the federal government level is if the press uncovers it.

00:25:23.160 Because the watchdogs aren't going to do it.

00:25:26.280 You saw Horowitz.

00:25:27.080 I know, I know.

00:25:27.660 He's not Elliot Ness.

00:25:29.200 Right.

00:25:29.660 All right?

00:25:30.520 So when you have the press in the tank, whatever harms Donald Trump is good,

00:25:38.700 and we don't really care whether you break the law to do it, this is the American press.

00:25:44.300 All right?

00:25:44.700 The FBI, they didn't fear exposure.

00:25:48.120 Who's going to expose them?

00:25:49.700 So this is so—this is so terrifying.

00:25:52.440 You know, Mike—

00:25:52.980 It is.

00:25:53.140 That's the right word.

00:25:54.320 Mike Lee said we should suspend all FISA courts until we know exactly what's going on.

00:26:01.220 I.G. Horowitz said that they are conducting an investigation in all of the FISA warrants.

00:26:10.600 But this is—this should terrify people.

00:26:13.480 And it goes so far beyond Donald Trump and Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff.

00:26:18.320 This is a—this is—the Fourth Amendment does not exist today in America.

00:26:24.820 But I don't—I'm not buying into that the whole system, the FISA court system—

00:26:33.700 What keeps you—

00:26:34.420 We should remind—we should remind your audience, the reason this was put into place

00:26:39.040 was to protect Americans from foreign terrorists coming here and blowing us up.

00:26:43.760 All right?

00:26:44.300 That's the reason that this was put into place during Bush to Younger's administration,

00:26:50.540 to give the federal agencies—FBI, CIA, NSA—more latitude to surveil people who might harm us.

00:27:00.720 But, Bill, this is the same kind of thing that Schiff was doing when he went into the SCIF and said,

00:27:05.880 hey, I'm going to do these three phone numbers.

00:27:08.560 Well, those were—

00:27:09.720 Well, that's AT&T.

00:27:11.300 I know, but—

00:27:12.020 AT&T could have said no, and Schiff would have lost in court.

00:27:16.180 That's AT&T.

00:27:17.140 And who does AT&T own?

00:27:19.680 CNN.

00:27:21.520 Okay?

00:27:22.060 So what's happened here is corruption, number one.

00:27:27.220 But I believe the corruption was directed by James Comey and Andrew McCabe.

00:27:32.560 And I believe they will be indicted when the Justice Department wraps up its investigation, Durham.

00:27:39.840 But between now and Durham-Barr putting people in handcuffs, which will probably be in July,

00:27:46.500 okay, you're going to see attacks on both Barr and Durham like you've never seen by the press,

00:27:54.760 which wants to harm Donald Trump.

00:27:58.120 All of this—and I don't even know if Trump knows it.

00:28:01.120 I think he does—is going to help him get reelected, Donald Trump.

00:28:07.620 Because even the dimmest of Americans know the fix was in.

00:28:11.660 All of this stuff was contrived.

00:28:15.040 It was based on nothing but getting President Trump.

00:28:18.760 And when you have an apparatus, a federal apparatus devoted to getting a president,

00:28:26.740 that's corruption beyond anything that we've seen.

00:28:29.960 Okay.

00:28:30.620 I want to take a quick break.

00:28:31.720 We're with Bill O'Reilly from BillOReilly.com.

00:28:35.280 You can watch his show and get all of his opinions every day at BillOReilly.com.

00:28:41.280 I want to pause here because I want to come back and ask you about what do you think the Senate is going to do?

00:28:49.560 How are they going to investigate?

00:28:52.340 Because people do belong in handcuffs.

00:28:55.820 And people need to pay a high price because if not, we have a banana republic right now. 1.00

00:29:01.000 There's a banana republic that is happening. 0.88

00:29:03.100 And if we don't get control of this, we all lose our freedom.

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00:30:06.460 This is one of my favorite resumes of all time.

00:30:10.340 New York Times bestselling author of nine books, including The Tao of Bill Murray,

00:30:14.840 Last Night at the Viper Room,

00:30:16.620 the successful Excuse Me While I Kiss This Guy series of misheard lyric collections,

00:30:22.040 longtime contributor Rolling Stone.

00:30:24.000 He's written for the New York Times, Wired, Billboard, Details, and GQ,

00:30:28.240 and has moonlighted as a game designer, photographer, and a demolition derby driver.

00:30:34.340 I love this guy.

00:30:35.300 He lives in North Carolina in Charlotte.

00:30:38.540 Welcome to the program, Gavin Edwards.

00:30:40.140 How are you, sir?

00:30:41.320 I'm very well.

00:30:42.220 How about yourself, sir?

00:30:43.180 I'm very good.

00:30:44.700 So, Mr. Rogers, he has always been an amazing man.

00:30:52.200 Anybody who ever paid attention to him, he's been an amazing man.

00:30:57.580 Now he's gone, and he is an icon, an absolute icon, surpasses anything Sesame Street ever did.

00:31:08.720 This is the guy that you look at and go, that doesn't exist.

00:31:13.140 Why is he suddenly so popular and everywhere?

00:31:17.420 Well, I think there's two reasons.

00:31:21.400 One is he was the real deal.

00:31:23.740 You know, sort of like Mr. Rogers would have still been a lot of good in the world if, like, offstage he was, you know, like, driving fast cars and chomping cigars.

00:31:31.920 Like, if that show would have still helped people.

00:31:35.420 But everyone knows that, like, he was that authentic guy.

00:31:39.160 Like, if he was out, you know, sort of like, and he saw a kid, like, on the edge of a room where he was having lunch, like, looking distressed, he would get up from his meal, he would walk over, get down on one knee and talk to that kid and make sure that kid was okay.

00:31:53.060 So, that was what it was about.

00:31:54.800 So, Gavin, at this point in our history, I don't think that guy could exist because everyone would go, I think there's something wrong with that guy.

00:32:03.600 There's something wrong with him.

00:32:05.660 You know, people said there's something wrong with that guy when he came out.

00:32:08.660 Like, there's people who said, you know, sort of like, people would get sheezed off.

00:32:14.280 They would take his patience with kids not as perverse necessarily, but kind of as an insult.

00:32:21.140 You know, there was this guy in a Chicago newspaper who wrote, you know, any self-respecting father just wants to punch Mr. Rogers in the nose.

00:32:28.220 So, you know, like, it really, like, challenges people.

00:32:32.960 Like, they take, you know, sort of his gentleness and his caring to be, you know, sort of like an implicit why aren't you doing better, which is not what he's trying for.

00:32:42.600 But, you know, if it does, in fact, challenge you to do better, to tap into your inner Mr. Rogers, then, you know, like, you're going to be better off.

00:32:49.680 Like, I have found, you know, just like watching the show once a day and, you know, sort of like saying to myself now and then, hey, you know, sort of like, can I be a little more patient with people?

00:33:00.620 Can I listen better?

00:33:02.000 Can I get in touch with these very basic messages that, like, he taught me when I was a kid that I, like, forgot about and put away?

00:33:09.000 Like, it improves my life.

00:33:10.440 But he wasn't, I mean, he wasn't like Sesame Street.

00:33:13.640 He wasn't a runaway smash, was he?

00:33:17.280 Well, I mean, Sesame Street got even bigger, even faster.

00:33:22.700 But he was, in fact, you know, sort of like he took off that, you know, it was a show that started off on like a, you know, sort of like local public television in Pittsburgh.

00:33:33.960 And then it went to other cities and they would pretty soon they would just be getting thousands of fan letters when they were early on, when they didn't necessarily have enough budget to do the show.

00:33:45.220 You know, sort of they found out that, you know, sort of like mothers in like different areas were just like going door to door, raising money for the show.

00:33:53.840 And they would show up in like Boston, Chicago and Los Angeles and say, oh, like Mr. Rogers is making a personal appearance.

00:33:59.820 And the stations would be overwhelmed because thousands and thousands of families would show up.

00:34:04.400 So pretty quickly, you know, sort of even if he's not on adults radar, kids connected with them.

00:34:10.000 They're like, oh, this is the guy who cares about me and is looking at me and telling me that, you know, sort of like he's happy that I'm there and I made today's special.

00:34:17.840 And that's just something magical.

00:34:19.460 So you look at him and the way he spoke was just very different. 1.00

00:34:25.400 And you'll hear people say, don't talk to your kids as if they're, you know, morons. 0.99

00:34:34.400 Now, I know he was going for he was going for a younger, younger audience, obviously. 0.99

00:34:39.060 But was that what was that tone that he spoke to the kids about?

00:34:46.200 Is that the way he always was with adults?

00:34:50.780 Natural cadence.

00:34:52.160 That's the way he was with adults.

00:34:53.420 And you can see if you've seen the new movie with Tom Hanks, like who does in many ways a very nice job.

00:34:59.320 You can see he's fighting to slow down his natural speech pattern.

00:35:04.080 It's not how most people speak.

00:35:06.400 But that was what he did.

00:35:07.520 And he was very comfortable with silence.

00:35:09.700 He would take out the radio in his car because, you know, he just wanted to be alone with his thoughts.

00:35:14.460 He one of my favorite sequences on the show ever was just he fills up a fish tank with water.

00:35:19.540 It's about three minutes.

00:35:20.560 Not much happens.

00:35:21.460 But just like, you know, he's just hanging out with the kids in the camera.

00:35:24.940 And, you know, sort of like we're just going to be here and watch the fish tank fill up.

00:35:28.600 He is a obviously very mentally healthy individual that likes silence.

00:35:37.720 Very few people like and can handle silence.

00:35:41.040 It's nobody nobody who is, you know, nobody who is who is struggling with things will take the radio out of their car.

00:35:51.880 Yeah.

00:35:52.400 I mean, the term in your business is dead air, you know, sort of like if you think about it, you know, sort of like it's obviously a judgment.

00:35:58.280 It's not, you know, sort of quiet time or like contemplative, but dead air.

00:36:03.320 You know, like people say that's death when, you know, there's not something filling every second.

00:36:08.140 So who owns the rights to Mr. Rogers?

00:36:12.780 Does his family still own it?

00:36:15.140 It's there's a nonprofit foundation, which now does the show Daniel Tiger's neighbor.

00:36:23.440 OK, so so somebody is paying somebody for all of these, you know, portrayals of him and everything else.

00:36:32.000 Because I'm I'm wondering, it's it's just it's almost so far out of the blue.

00:36:37.100 And maybe that's why it's so successful, because he's the anti today.

00:36:41.960 Or was it kind of or was it kind of like, you know, it's a wonderful life.

00:36:46.760 Oh, there's no copyright on this.

00:36:48.940 We just play this all the time.

00:36:50.860 People are really, really responding to this.

00:36:53.280 And you can see just in the last couple of years.

00:36:55.340 And I think, you know, like whoever you are or like, you know, like however you feel about like sort of politics in the world, you can see things are getting louder and they're getting like nastier and cruder.

00:37:07.980 And you like look at reality television, you look at how people interact with each other.

00:37:12.040 And it just feels like in our lifetimes, you know, like the dial keeps going up and there's just more hostility in the air than there used to be.

00:37:21.340 And so I think people just like crave Mr. Rogers.

00:37:24.140 It's like a glass of cold water that, you know, you say, oh, it doesn't have to be like this all the time.

00:37:30.940 I can actually, you know, even if I don't control the mass culture, I can control what's going on, like in my family and in my neighborhood and how I react to people.

00:37:39.460 And that's, I think, why there's so much interest in him and like renewed love for him in the last couple of years.

00:37:46.080 So he's a he's a pendulum swing that we hope will catch on bigger than just going to see him at the movies or reading about him in your book.

00:37:55.980 He's a pendulum swing that we're we hopefully will go.

00:38:00.520 You know, and sometimes pendulum swing, not just because of like one big apocalypse event,

00:38:07.660 but because lots of people decide to push just a little in the same direction, you know,

00:38:11.840 sort of if more people just like take a moment to, you know, sort of like be kind to, you know,

00:38:17.980 sort of like slow down and like listen to their kid and stuff like we got to go, we got to go, we got to go.

00:38:22.840 Then, you know, like that's to the good.

00:38:25.760 Do you think that show could exist today?

00:38:28.600 It barely was able to exist then.

00:38:30.620 Like it was this weird, fluky thing that, you know, sort of like he got into public television, you know,

00:38:37.960 sort of at just the right time when they had, you know, sort of like hours that needed to be filled.

00:38:42.740 And he had these gifts of, you know, sort of like he would be a puppeteer.

00:38:46.980 And, you know, like he wrote the music himself.

00:38:49.800 And he knew all these things that he knew how to do a show.

00:38:52.980 But, you know, and just because like, well, there's nothing else.

00:38:58.020 It's that or dead air.

00:39:00.500 So I don't think you could ever get that show on the air right now.

00:39:04.340 But I do think that somebody like him could come on and he was such a natural communicator.

00:39:11.320 He would find a medium and he would still find a way to connect with people.

00:39:15.220 Any explanation on the name Mr. McFeely?

00:39:17.980 Ah, so that is actually, you know, sometimes people raise their eyebrow and it's like, is that a double entendre thing?

00:39:26.480 Well, I mean, it's not.

00:39:27.500 I mean, it's a kid's show.

00:39:28.540 The guy is really soft-spoken.

00:39:30.080 And the mailman who comes in and talks to the kids from time to time is Mr. McFeely.

00:39:33.780 It's one of those things like when you look at Michael Jackson and you're like, keep it in the closet.

00:39:38.780 Maybe we should have thought about that.

00:39:42.400 He was telling us something.

00:39:44.720 So McFeely was Fred Rogers' middle name.

00:39:47.980 But more importantly, it was the name of his grandfather, Grandfather McFeely, who, you know, sort of, one of the reasons, like, Fred had such a connection with kids was that he had kind of an unhappy childhood.

00:40:01.700 He grew up in privilege, but he was chubby.

00:40:04.560 He was asthmatic.

00:40:05.560 He was awkward.

00:40:07.040 You know, he was sort of just kind of like shy and in many ways unhappy.

00:40:10.900 But somebody who just really showed him, like, love a lot of the time was his grandfather, who, like, would encourage him, you know, like, hey, you want to go have an adventure?

00:40:19.980 Go, like, climb these stone walls on the farm.

00:40:22.420 Go do that. 0.52

00:40:23.180 It's going to be okay if you rip your pants.

00:40:25.160 And he was the person who told him, you know, sort of, you made today special just by being here.

00:40:30.660 And that was something that meant so much to Fred when he was a kid and something that he was able to pass on to kids.

00:40:37.120 So when he needed to name it, like, it was a tribute to his grandfather.

00:40:40.520 So what's his family like?

00:40:42.660 Did he have children?

00:40:44.780 What are they like today?

00:40:46.120 So he married his college sweetheart, Joanne Rogers, a concert pianist, who, you know, sort of, like, they apparently had great, good times together.

00:41:00.980 She is, you know, sort of, like, a good human being but less patient than Fred Rogers because who is as patient as Fred Rogers?

00:41:08.400 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:08.900 Nobody.

00:41:09.140 So she'll talk about, like, oh, you know, sort of, like, I was out at, you know, like, getting the car fixed, and the guy was just, like, no good at all.

00:41:17.300 I don't even think he knew what he was doing.

00:41:18.920 And he would say, well, maybe he was having a bad day.

00:41:21.600 And she's like, I don't care about his bad day.

00:41:23.680 What about me?

00:41:26.800 So, and they had two boys who, you know, sort of are basically private people.

00:41:34.320 They're not particularly in the public eye, but they do an interview now and then in tribute to their dad.

00:41:39.140 And decent people?

00:41:40.900 I mean, it seemed to work.

00:41:42.880 Was he there for them?

00:41:45.420 Yeah.

00:41:45.960 I mean, he was, what people say is that he was, like, a very loving, attentive father and, you know, sort of, like, in some ways he'd been training to be a father all his life.

00:41:56.360 He was not very good at disciplining them, you know, sort of, like, you know, very good at communicating.

00:42:02.840 But, you know, like, found it hard to be the authoritarian, and that turned out to be, you know, mom's job in that household.

00:42:09.420 Gavin, thank you so much.

00:42:10.640 Great talking to you.

00:42:11.660 You can follow Gavin.

00:42:12.740 I've enjoyed that.

00:42:13.600 Me too.

00:42:14.260 Mr. Gavin Edwards is where you can follow him.

00:42:17.060 The name of the book is Kindness and Wonder, Mr. Rogers.

00:42:21.540 It is well worth your time to read, and I have not seen the movie.

00:42:25.760 I saw the documentary.

00:42:26.900 I think I saw half of the documentary, and I haven't seen the movie yet, but I want to.

00:42:32.220 And he is somebody that we should all be looking toward right now, because if we could just listen to each other, be a little kinder, maybe the world would be full of a little bit more wonder that we would notice.

00:42:44.540 Thank you so much, Gavin.

00:42:45.380 Appreciate it.

00:42:46.240 Thank you, Glenn.

00:42:46.740 I really appreciate it.

00:42:47.600 You bet.

00:42:53.200 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:42:55.160 Welcome to the program.

00:43:09.780 I'm Mr. Cam Edwards, who's part of the podcast, the Blaze podcast network.

00:43:14.760 We're glad you're here.

00:43:15.680 Cam has been a First Amendment rights guy for ever since I can remember and has his podcast about it, and I really want to talk to him, Second Amendment, and I really want to talk to him about what's happening in Virginia and this movement in Virginia that is really getting very little attention in the mainstream, and that is the Sanctuary Cities movement.

00:43:40.540 Cam, the way I view this, now, I haven't been there, so I haven't seen it.

00:43:45.160 I don't know if you have, but I think this is more powerful than the Tea Party turnouts that were happening, even at its zenith.

00:43:54.880 You know, Glenn, I think that you're right, and thanks so much for having me on the program.

00:43:57.700 I mean, we now have 91 localities in Virginia, most of which are counties that have adopted these Second Amendment Sanctuary Resolutions, and I have been to about eight of these County Board of Supervisors meetings where the resolutions have been discussed, and I've never seen anything like this.

00:44:14.460 I mean, you have thousands of Virginians who are showing up with their neighbors, with their friends, with their family, to urge these supervisors to pass a measure that says, we don't plan on spending any county funds enforcing unconstitutional gun control laws.

00:44:32.160 And you say, you know, this has got more energy than the Tea Party movement.

00:44:36.120 I think it has at least as much energy, and this is so hyper-local.

00:44:41.160 This is, you know, not a top-down movement that it really is incredible to see.

00:44:46.080 So what is the state of Virginia doing?

00:44:49.580 What are the Democrats doing?

00:44:50.640 First of all, is this a right versus left issue, or is this bipartisan, these turnouts?

00:44:57.440 You know, I think it is largely a right versus left, but I do know that there are Democrats who are showing up and Democrats who are voting in support of these resolutions, particularly in rural Virginia.

00:45:10.100 You know, I think it's a pro-gun, anti-gun split, honestly.

00:45:13.700 And the Democrats in the state, quite frankly, they're flipping out.

00:45:17.240 They don't know what to do.

00:45:18.140 Congressman Donald McEachin, who represents Virginia's 4th Congressional District, talked about how Governor Northam should send out the National Guard to enforce these new gun control laws in counties that refuse to, you know, enforce gun bans or magazine bans.

00:45:33.300 Governor Northam has promised that there will be some sort of unspecified consequences for counties that do not capitulate.

00:45:40.340 But so far, you know, that doesn't seem to be having any effect on the movement whatsoever.

00:45:44.940 So what do you suppose the people of Virginia will do if they send out the National Guard to enforce something that is, I mean, it kills me, you know, sanctuary cities are known as cities that are breaking the law and saying and defying the law.

00:46:04.300 Now, this one is saying, no, no, no, no, it's a Bill of Rights issue, and we're standing by the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and not letting you in.

00:46:16.440 What do the Democrats think would happen if they enforce it with some sort of National Guard?

00:46:26.300 I guess they assumed that folks would comply, but I just don't see that happening.

00:46:33.440 There are so many county sheriffs.

00:46:35.660 We're now seeing Commonwealth attorneys, which are local prosecutors in Virginia, that are also saying, you know what, we're not going to go out and we're not going to arrest anybody for, you know, having a 20-round magazine or we're not going to go out and seize anybody's guns.

00:46:48.840 And ultimately, I think that's what this comes down to.

00:46:52.320 The governor and these anti-gun lawmakers can put these laws on the books, but they've taught us, Glenn, how to resist over the last few years.

00:47:01.340 And we're taking pages from their playbook.

00:47:03.600 We're doing exactly what they've done.

00:47:05.400 You know, even in the state of Virginia, there was a commonwealth attorney earlier this year in Portsmouth, Virginia, who announced that she would be dismissing every misdemeanor marijuana case that was brought to her office.

00:47:15.740 And Governor Northam didn't complain.

00:47:17.880 He didn't threaten her with sanctions or said that there would be consequences for her ignoring state law.

00:47:23.640 So why would it be any different if we're talking about, you know, not enforcing, quite frankly, a lot of these laws are unenforceable anyway, but not enforcing universal background checks or not enforcing a magazine ban?

00:47:37.400 I just don't see the difference there.

00:47:38.940 And I think the Democrats have kind of painted themselves into a corner.

00:47:42.120 Look, everybody says that, you know, we have to have universal background checks.

00:47:46.640 I don't understand this.

00:47:47.480 It's the most popular thing you can say as a Democrat.

00:47:51.680 It's popular with the Republicans, the independents and Democrats.

00:47:55.620 Cam, we have those, don't we?

00:47:57.780 We have those.

00:47:59.280 We've got background checks on every retail sale of a firearm.

00:48:02.360 And what they want to do is they want to expand that to private transfers, even between family and friends.

00:48:07.320 So even though, you know, I think you and I met for the first time back in 2003, it would be illegal for me to even loan you a firearm if you came to visit me in Virginia.

00:48:19.140 It's absolutely absurd.

00:48:20.960 And, you know, Glenn, as far as the practical effects go, it sounds good on paper.

00:48:24.340 It pulls really well.

00:48:25.540 But if you look at states where these laws have been put on the books, Colorado, for example, passed their universal background check law in 2013, violent crime is up more than 25 percent in the state of Colorado since that background check law was put on the books.

00:48:39.880 So if this is about public safety, it doesn't work.

00:48:42.640 If it's about targeting legal gun owners, and I think that's what it's really about, then that's enough for these gun control advocates to push it.

00:48:49.620 So if the governor decides to call out the National Guard, which I – do you think that's realistic, that that's even a realistic –

00:48:57.760 I don't.

00:48:58.260 Okay.

00:48:58.980 I don't.

00:49:00.200 I would be shocked.

00:49:01.420 I think it's much more likely that the government – or that the governor would try to use the Virginia State Police,

00:49:06.460 that the attorney general would maybe use his office to come in and prosecute in counties and take cases, you know, that the commonwealth's attorney or not.

00:49:15.160 But I would be shocked and really, really bitterly disappointed if the governor actually tried to do something like send out the National Guard.

00:49:24.480 And I think that would fail, by the way.

00:49:25.780 I think that, you know, again, the National Guard is made up in Virginia of Virginians.

00:49:30.200 Yeah.

00:49:30.320 And I don't think those members of the National Guard are any more enthusiastic about enforcing these gun control laws than the county sheriffs and a lot of local cops.

00:49:38.360 I mean, this is something that people have talked about for a long time.

00:49:41.620 You know, if the Army was ever turned against the American people, would they shoot?

00:49:44.680 This is even harder to believe because, as you said, those are Virginians, and they would be enforcing a law on Virginians.

00:49:54.460 And most of those people are probably Second Amendment right people.

00:49:59.220 And I just – I mean, that's a big test to lose, especially.

00:50:04.080 It is.

00:50:06.420 But, again, like I said, I think they've painted themselves into a corner here.

00:50:08.920 I mean, even if you get into prosecuting individuals for, you know, violating these new gun laws that they want to put on the books, you know, there were – I think it was Rockingham County.

00:50:17.940 There were about 3,000 people who crammed into a high school gymnasium and about another 3,000 who couldn't fit who were outside the other night.

00:50:24.980 But I'm looking at that, and I'm thinking, you know, are any of those people – if they serve in a jury pool, are they going to convict their neighbor?

00:50:33.580 Are they going to convict the person who owns the hardware store that they visit on a weekly basis?

00:50:38.420 I don't think that they will.

00:50:39.840 And so whether it's through, you know, a jury nullification, whether it's through the Second Amendment sanctuary resolutions, whether it's through the discretion that law enforcement already has, I just don't see a way for these gun control laws to be fully enforced across the state of Virginia.

00:50:58.900 I think they're going to be enforced in deep blue areas.

00:51:01.160 I think we're going to see exactly what we've seen in places like New York State, for example, after they passed the SAFE Act.

00:51:06.480 The majority of prosecutions under that gun control package take place in two boroughs of New York City, the Bronx and Brooklyn.

00:51:12.920 And the vast majority of people who are prosecuted are young black men with no violent criminal history who are sent to prison for three and a half years for simply possessing a firearm without a license.

00:51:23.080 And I think it's going to be young minority men in low-income neighborhoods who are primarily going to be impacted by these gun control laws in Virginia.

00:51:31.460 And I don't know that that's the legacy that, you know, Governor Blackface Northam really wants to leave.

00:51:36.480 Kim, have you heard the case in Illinois of the woman who is trying to defend herself?

00:51:43.760 She was in her car.

00:51:45.200 She had a gun. 0.96

00:51:46.480 She has license to have a gun, not license to carry, but she had it in her glove box. 0.77

00:51:50.960 Her ex comes, is threatening her life, trying to get into the car, trying to hurt her.

00:51:57.080 She takes her gun out. 0.99

00:51:58.140 She shoots.

00:51:59.560 He gets, what was it, a $10,000 bail.

00:52:02.220 She has a $75,000 bail.

00:52:04.740 Well, where is the common sense here?

00:52:07.880 There is none, unfortunately.

00:52:10.280 And, yeah, I'm very familiar with this story.

00:52:13.140 I have actually learned a couple of additional pieces of information, including the fact that this guy apparently has been convicted of battering this woman in the past on a couple of occasions.

00:52:21.340 I did learn that the woman was able to bond out, thankfully, so she's back out. 0.99

00:52:27.680 But, again, it's absolutely egregious that the state of Illinois and the state's attorney in Illinois would look at this case and decide that this woman who acted in self-defense, and police say she acted in self-defense, that this woman should face a higher bond than the guy who beat her in her car.

00:52:44.100 It's the holiday, and I just want you to know we're praying for you and Miss E.

00:52:53.500 How is she doing?

00:52:55.360 She's doing okay.

00:52:57.060 She's enjoying the holidays right now.

00:52:58.600 She's actually not on any form of treatment at the moment.

00:53:01.940 She was in a clinical trial for her non-small cell lung cancer, but she had some side effects, so she had to get off of it.

00:53:07.120 So her oncologist said, you know, look, let's take a couple months, let's see if any clinical trials open up, and she's got an appointment next week.

00:53:15.400 And hopefully she'll be back getting some treatment soon, but her spirits are good.

00:53:20.260 She's in the Christmas spirit.

00:53:21.680 She's busy knitting and crocheting little corny goat critters that she's putting up for sale in her Etsy shop, and we're just trying to enjoy the holidays.

00:53:31.180 You know, we're trying to make every day count.

00:53:32.520 How are you holding up?

00:53:33.280 For the most part, I'm good.

00:53:36.420 I appreciate you asking.

00:53:38.280 You know, it's my job to be her rock, so I let her, you know, put all of that on me, and then occasionally I'll, you know, wander outside.

00:53:47.280 Thankfully, we live on 40 acres, and my neighbors can't hear when I yell and scream at the moon or the sun or the clouds, and I get it out of my system, and I go back, and I do what I can to, again, make sure that her every day is as good as it can be.

00:54:01.260 Cam, you're a good man.

00:54:03.740 Say hi to Miss Eve for us, and blessings this holiday season.

00:54:07.380 Thank you so much.

00:54:08.940 Thank you, Glenn.

00:54:09.920 Talk to you soon.

00:54:10.760 Cam Edwards, BearingArms.com.

00:54:13.200 He is also 40 Acres and a Fool, which is a podcast on the Blaze Podcast Network.

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The Glenn Beck Program - December 13, 2019

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Daniel Hannan, Bill O'Reilly, Gavin Edwards & Cam Edwards ｜ 12⧸13⧸19

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