Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly are joined by Daniel Hannon to talk about Brexit and the lessons the left in America can learn from the Brexit vote. They also talk about licensing and the Second Amendment in Virginia, Cam Edwards' new book, Kindness and Wonder, and more.
00:00:00.000Hello, America. It's Friday. Great, great episode for you today.
00:00:05.380Gee, the lessons that maybe the left here in America should learn from what happened in London and England yesterday, probably pretty important.
00:00:17.080We have Daniel Hannon on to talk about that. Bill O'Reilly joins us.
00:00:21.520We we we talk about licensing and how important licensing really is.
00:00:27.200We have Cam Edwards in the Second Amendment sanctuary cities.
00:00:31.920What's happening in Virginia is crazy.
00:00:35.360Also, Mr. Rogers, a new book out, Kindness and Wonder by Gavin Edwards.
00:00:41.380Great conversation on that all on today's podcast.
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00:04:27.060This was this was a pro-democracy vote.
00:04:31.080And it was also I think it's really important to stress this.
00:04:33.920It's a remarkably kind of mainstream and moderate vote, because although the although his opponents have tried rather unconvincingly to paint Boris Johnson as some kind of fringe or far right figure, he's actually very much in the political centre.
00:04:51.220The only way you can call him extreme is if you regard Brexit as extreme, if you're calling a majority of the electorate extreme.
00:04:57.700In other words, if you think that it's extreme for any country to want to live under its own laws and its own institutions, you know, something that the rest of the world takes for granted.
00:05:06.260So the real extremists here were the socialist revolutionaries on the other side, and the country politely said no to them.
00:05:13.700Because he is really more of a populist.
00:05:15.840I mean, he kind of goes where the people are, does he not?
00:05:18.340Well, I mean, so Boris is politically very much in the mainstream.
00:05:26.840He's, you know, his character is very large.
00:05:29.940He has a very florid and colourful way with words.
00:05:33.560But his politics are fairly traditional conservative politics.
00:05:37.560Jeremy Corbyn, who is a much more kind of normal kind of guy in terms of his background and his appearance and so on, is absolutely from outside the mainstream.
00:05:52.000Something we've never really had an unapologetic Marxist leading one of them.
00:06:04.320It seems to really hate Great Britain and what it's stood for forever, going way, way back with him.
00:06:14.080I don't think he personally, I want to be as fair as I can, I don't think he personally is anti-Semitic.
00:06:18.860But he is so self-righteous that he could not acknowledge or accept that his party had a problem with anti-Semitism, which comes out of this bizarre alliance between the extreme left and the Islamic jihadi types.
00:06:34.320And because he's so convinced that we're the lefties, we're the good guys, he just couldn't bring himself to accept that the problem existed.
00:06:40.340So who is, boy, that's very gracious of you to say that about him.
00:06:43.900How much of this was about him as well, as the British people saying, we don't want what he is selling beyond Brexit?
00:06:56.700Yeah, I think it was very, I think that was a very large part of it.
00:07:03.060Britain is unusual in two respects compared to Europe politically.
00:07:09.540In modern times, we have never had an anti-Semitic party anywhere near power.
00:07:14.520Of course, we have had individual anti-Semites down the years, just as you have, just as every other country in the world has.
00:07:20.320But they've never before infiltrated one of the major parties.
00:07:22.900That is new and was outside our experience.
00:07:25.580Second, and again, this is very different from almost every country in Europe, we never had any significant Communist Party.
00:07:32.780There was never any parliamentary movement that was Marxist in its orientation until now.
00:07:38.180And those two things came together in the last couple of years under this Labour leadership.
00:07:43.520And, you know, I think a country which deep down is a commonsensical, level-headed, fair-minded country just thought, you know what, that is not the kind of people we are.
00:07:53.560So I'm very glad that we've kept our record intact as a country that has nothing to do either with anti-Semitic conspiracy theories or with revolutionary.
00:08:02.360What should Washington and those in our parties here take as the lesson for America?
00:08:09.600Well, people are wiser than their leaders, and people want representatives, legislators and elected representatives who remember that they are servants and not rulers.
00:08:25.760When we voted Leave, you know, it wasn't in a spirit of light banter.
00:08:31.800And for three years, we've been told by our supposed intellectual elites that we didn't understand what we were voting for, we got it wrong, and so on.
00:08:41.820And we can see, first of all, that all of their predictions of disaster have conspicuously failed.
00:08:46.500I mean, the British pound, the pound sterling and the straight line up beating the dollar the minute the BBC said looks like it's going to be the Conservatives in a landslide.
00:09:02.760And that proved something which up until now I was only able to argue, but I can now point, as the rest of us can, to some evidence, which is that the real problem holding back our economy and holding back –
00:09:17.740we've done okay, but we could have been doing even better – was not Brexit.
00:09:21.680It was fear of a Corbyn-led government.
00:09:24.220And now that that fear has been removed, I think that there will be a flood of pent-up investment into the UK economy because businesses that were holding back –
00:09:35.440you know, do you open a restaurant, do you buy a house, do you – you know, no one wanted to make those decisions as long as there was a prospect of a communist prime minister who was prepared to expropriate private assets.
00:09:48.360And now that that has been removed, I think the UK economy is now poised to take off.
00:09:54.040Are you going to actually leave by the end of January?
00:10:02.720We will – yeah, to be absolutely clear, fair point.
00:10:08.660Yes, we will leave at 11 p.m., 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on the 31st of January.
00:10:18.460Daniel, the two main factors here, at least from the outsider perspective, are Jeremy Corbyn's an extremist, and the British people wanted to say, you know, democracy counts.
00:10:26.900We know this vote happened, and we need to honour it.
00:10:30.000If you had to give a kind of a split, what was the bigger factor there?
00:10:36.600Those were the two main factors, and they're very linked because, you know, the refusal to acknowledge democracy kind of confirmed all the negatives people had about, well, hang on, is this a party that would ever behead constitutionally?
00:10:51.680There's one third factor, though, in this, which I think is only fair to nod at, which is the personal popularity of Boris Johnson and his ability to connect with voters in seats that had a cultural, hereditary, or tribal affiliation with Labour, which almost made it impossible for them to look at a conservative candidate because of all the connotations that they'd grown up with.
00:11:18.000And Boris has swept all of that away, and the whole electoral map looks different now.
00:11:24.400We had a better vote for the Conservative Party than we've had since Margaret Thatcher at her height.
00:11:29.520Is he Thatcher, or is he more like Churchill?
00:11:31.500I mean, he is politically much more within the Churchill tradition of sort of, you know, moderate patriotic Toryism.
00:11:44.940You probably know that Boris wrote a book about –
00:11:50.720Right. It was written off by a lot of the critics who sneered at it, and what they said was Boris has kind of refashioned the great wartime leader into a prop in his own drama.
00:12:02.320So Churchill, who emerges from the pages of his book, is this right-wing journalist and witty after-dinner speaker who is kind of cruelly overlooked by the party elites until the moment of crisis.
00:12:12.140Now, I actually don't think that criticism is entirely fair.
00:12:16.580Boris is not comparing himself to Churchill, but I think it is probably true that he was inspired by elements of Churchill's story,
00:12:24.500and in particular by the way in which the great man put all of the kind of boozing and the unseriousness and the silly friends behind him and rose to the occasion.
00:12:37.060And I think he very much sees this as his moment to rise to the occasion.
00:12:40.560All right, so speaking of silly friends behind him, if you were in America, you were wondering when you heard him speak last night why Elmo and a weird Darth Vader was standing behind him and why you allowed Elmo to take his head off.
00:12:55.820Isn't it just glorious? Isn't it just the most wonderful thing?
00:13:01.960Even when you are the sitting prime minister, you've got to go and defend your constituency against challenges by Elmo and Lord Buckethead.
00:13:09.260What a fantastic reminder in practice as well as in theory that we are all equal before the law and the politician is the servant of the people.
00:13:19.100So quickly, can you tell us, was that Elmo and who was the guy in the bucket?
00:13:23.040We have a – we've had a tradition here going back about 50 or 60 years that a number of eccentric and choke candidates stand against the main party leaders in their constituencies when there is a general election.
00:13:42.400And one – in fact, there is a party – the guy you're calling Darth Vader, who's changed his name by deed poll to Lord Buckethead.
00:13:49.660He is the leader of quite an old party in Britain that began in the early 60s called the Official Monster Raving Loony Party, and it has contested every by-election, and its leader has stood against the incumbent prime minister at every election since the mid-60s.
00:14:06.560So they are – they're actually older than our liberal Democrat party.
00:14:13.220The Scottish National Party did very well, and it's funny because the people were like, hey, democracy means something, and we're – we want Brexit.
00:14:26.580Well, that's really the message of the Scottish National Party, and I think it's been the same one since Mel Gibson put blue paint on his face.
00:14:58.060So a lot of their voters are, in fact, against independence for Scotland, but they vote for the Scottish National Party as a way of maximizing Scotland's weight in the union, if you like, where – you know, sending a message to London that they need to be taken seriously.
00:15:15.460Or it's a very – it's a very common thing.
00:15:17.960You get it in other places where there's a separatist feeling.
00:15:21.080I can't see there being another referendum in the short run because, you know, we had one five years ago, and everyone said that that was it and it was going to be it for a lifetime and so on.
00:15:31.060But I do think that we need to acknowledge the advance in the elections of the Scottish National Party, and it seems to me that the fairest thing to all sides, given that Scotland voted to stay in the UK but not by a huge margin in 2014, the fairest thing would be to try and come up with some compromise where there is more devolution for Scotland, including tax-raising powers, fiscal autonomy.
00:15:59.340But it stops short of actually having separate embassies and so on, which I think is what the vast majority of people in Scotland say they want.
00:16:06.540They want more autonomy but not complete breakaway.
00:16:08.600Daniel Hannan, I have literally 10 seconds, and I'm being screamed out of my ear.
00:17:12.060The biggest story that I took out of all the chaos this week, there were actually two very important stories for Americans that have implications going forward.
00:17:23.100The first one is that it is clear to me that the FBI was out of control.
00:17:31.040So the most powerful investigative agency in the world, not just in the country, was basically running a bunco scheme.
00:20:36.080They know all these people, and they know what comes out.
00:20:41.220So early on, and I don't believe that it was explicit.
00:20:47.460I don't believe Comey and McCabe had a meeting, because they're way too smart for that, and told their agents, led by Peter Strzok, the infamous mistress guy with the text, get Trump, and that's our policy.
00:21:04.180And when the opening came from the bar conversation in London between Papadopoulos and the Australian guy, that was the opening that the FBI needed.
00:22:16.080Well, look, you and I, and this is absolutely true, and Beck and O'Reilly are two of the few who have pointed out that Horowitz was disingenuous, word of the day, in his testimony.
00:22:34.420And the reason he was is he doesn't want to be attacked by the Washington Post, which is uber-powerful in D.C.
00:22:43.560But Horowitz did tell you what you just raised.
00:22:47.660He did say that, but he said it in such an oblique way that you'd have to be right into that swamp to know.
00:22:54.640He said there was never an explanation for the FBI's conduct.
00:22:59.860Now, what he should have said was, in all my years of being in the Justice Department, I have never seen anything like this.
00:23:09.160And it strains credulity, another word of the day, to think that it was an accident, to think that these mistakes, all 17 of them, were accidents, just bad judgment.
00:23:21.460But it's not only impossible to have 17 or 19 mistakes all fall in the one direction, the actions of changing an email and reversing it, you know, cutting out language.
00:23:38.420The black guy is referred, he's referred, and he will be charged.
00:23:57.760None of this makes any sense, but what your audience has to understand is that this Horowitz, powerful man, Inspector General of the Justice Department,
00:24:07.080did not want to put himself at risk by telling the American people what really happened.
00:31:23.740You know, sort of like Mr. Rogers would have still been a lot of good in the world if, like, offstage he was, you know, like, driving fast cars and chomping cigars.
00:31:31.920Like, if that show would have still helped people.
00:31:35.420But everyone knows that, like, he was that authentic guy.
00:31:39.160Like, if he was out, you know, sort of like, and he saw a kid, like, on the edge of a room where he was having lunch, like, looking distressed, he would get up from his meal, he would walk over, get down on one knee and talk to that kid and make sure that kid was okay.
00:31:54.800So, Gavin, at this point in our history, I don't think that guy could exist because everyone would go, I think there's something wrong with that guy.
00:32:05.660You know, people said there's something wrong with that guy when he came out.
00:32:08.660Like, there's people who said, you know, sort of like, people would get sheezed off.
00:32:14.280They would take his patience with kids not as perverse necessarily, but kind of as an insult.
00:32:21.140You know, there was this guy in a Chicago newspaper who wrote, you know, any self-respecting father just wants to punch Mr. Rogers in the nose.
00:32:28.220So, you know, like, it really, like, challenges people.
00:32:32.960Like, they take, you know, sort of his gentleness and his caring to be, you know, sort of like an implicit why aren't you doing better, which is not what he's trying for.
00:32:42.600But, you know, if it does, in fact, challenge you to do better, to tap into your inner Mr. Rogers, then, you know, like, you're going to be better off.
00:32:49.680Like, I have found, you know, just like watching the show once a day and, you know, sort of like saying to myself now and then, hey, you know, sort of like, can I be a little more patient with people?
00:33:17.280Well, I mean, Sesame Street got even bigger, even faster.
00:33:22.700But he was, in fact, you know, sort of like he took off that, you know, it was a show that started off on like a, you know, sort of like local public television in Pittsburgh.
00:33:33.960And then it went to other cities and they would pretty soon they would just be getting thousands of fan letters when they were early on, when they didn't necessarily have enough budget to do the show.
00:33:45.220You know, sort of they found out that, you know, sort of like mothers in like different areas were just like going door to door, raising money for the show.
00:33:53.840And they would show up in like Boston, Chicago and Los Angeles and say, oh, like Mr. Rogers is making a personal appearance.
00:33:59.820And the stations would be overwhelmed because thousands and thousands of families would show up.
00:34:04.400So pretty quickly, you know, sort of even if he's not on adults radar, kids connected with them.
00:34:10.000They're like, oh, this is the guy who cares about me and is looking at me and telling me that, you know, sort of like he's happy that I'm there and I made today's special.
00:35:52.400I mean, the term in your business is dead air, you know, sort of like if you think about it, you know, sort of like it's obviously a judgment.
00:35:58.280It's not, you know, sort of quiet time or like contemplative, but dead air.
00:36:03.320You know, like people say that's death when, you know, there's not something filling every second.
00:36:50.860People are really, really responding to this.
00:36:53.280And you can see just in the last couple of years.
00:36:55.340And I think, you know, like whoever you are or like, you know, like however you feel about like sort of politics in the world, you can see things are getting louder and they're getting like nastier and cruder.
00:37:07.980And you like look at reality television, you look at how people interact with each other.
00:37:12.040And it just feels like in our lifetimes, you know, like the dial keeps going up and there's just more hostility in the air than there used to be.
00:37:21.340And so I think people just like crave Mr. Rogers.
00:37:24.140It's like a glass of cold water that, you know, you say, oh, it doesn't have to be like this all the time.
00:37:30.940I can actually, you know, even if I don't control the mass culture, I can control what's going on, like in my family and in my neighborhood and how I react to people.
00:37:39.460And that's, I think, why there's so much interest in him and like renewed love for him in the last couple of years.
00:37:46.080So he's a he's a pendulum swing that we hope will catch on bigger than just going to see him at the movies or reading about him in your book.
00:37:55.980He's a pendulum swing that we're we hopefully will go.
00:38:00.520You know, and sometimes pendulum swing, not just because of like one big apocalypse event,
00:38:07.660but because lots of people decide to push just a little in the same direction, you know,
00:38:11.840sort of if more people just like take a moment to, you know, sort of like be kind to, you know,
00:38:17.980sort of like slow down and like listen to their kid and stuff like we got to go, we got to go, we got to go.
00:38:22.840Then, you know, like that's to the good.
00:38:25.760Do you think that show could exist today?
00:39:44.720So McFeely was Fred Rogers' middle name.
00:39:47.980But more importantly, it was the name of his grandfather, Grandfather McFeely, who, you know, sort of, one of the reasons, like, Fred had such a connection with kids was that he had kind of an unhappy childhood.
00:40:01.700He grew up in privilege, but he was chubby.
00:40:07.040You know, he was sort of just kind of like shy and in many ways unhappy.
00:40:10.900But somebody who just really showed him, like, love a lot of the time was his grandfather, who, like, would encourage him, you know, like, hey, you want to go have an adventure?
00:40:19.980Go, like, climb these stone walls on the farm.
00:40:46.120So he married his college sweetheart, Joanne Rogers, a concert pianist, who, you know, sort of, like, they apparently had great, good times together.
00:41:00.980She is, you know, sort of, like, a good human being but less patient than Fred Rogers because who is as patient as Fred Rogers?
00:41:09.140So she'll talk about, like, oh, you know, sort of, like, I was out at, you know, like, getting the car fixed, and the guy was just, like, no good at all.
00:41:17.300I don't even think he knew what he was doing.
00:41:18.920And he would say, well, maybe he was having a bad day.
00:41:21.600And she's like, I don't care about his bad day.
00:41:45.960I mean, he was, what people say is that he was, like, a very loving, attentive father and, you know, sort of, like, in some ways he'd been training to be a father all his life.
00:41:56.360He was not very good at disciplining them, you know, sort of, like, you know, very good at communicating.
00:42:02.840But, you know, like, found it hard to be the authoritarian, and that turned out to be, you know, mom's job in that household.
00:42:26.900I think I saw half of the documentary, and I haven't seen the movie yet, but I want to.
00:42:32.220And he is somebody that we should all be looking toward right now, because if we could just listen to each other, be a little kinder, maybe the world would be full of a little bit more wonder that we would notice.
00:43:15.680Cam has been a First Amendment rights guy for ever since I can remember and has his podcast about it, and I really want to talk to him, Second Amendment, and I really want to talk to him about what's happening in Virginia and this movement in Virginia that is really getting very little attention in the mainstream, and that is the Sanctuary Cities movement.
00:43:40.540Cam, the way I view this, now, I haven't been there, so I haven't seen it.
00:43:45.160I don't know if you have, but I think this is more powerful than the Tea Party turnouts that were happening, even at its zenith.
00:43:54.880You know, Glenn, I think that you're right, and thanks so much for having me on the program.
00:43:57.700I mean, we now have 91 localities in Virginia, most of which are counties that have adopted these Second Amendment Sanctuary Resolutions, and I have been to about eight of these County Board of Supervisors meetings where the resolutions have been discussed, and I've never seen anything like this.
00:44:14.460I mean, you have thousands of Virginians who are showing up with their neighbors, with their friends, with their family, to urge these supervisors to pass a measure that says, we don't plan on spending any county funds enforcing unconstitutional gun control laws.
00:44:32.160And you say, you know, this has got more energy than the Tea Party movement.
00:44:36.120I think it has at least as much energy, and this is so hyper-local.
00:44:41.160This is, you know, not a top-down movement that it really is incredible to see.
00:44:46.080So what is the state of Virginia doing?
00:44:50.640First of all, is this a right versus left issue, or is this bipartisan, these turnouts?
00:44:57.440You know, I think it is largely a right versus left, but I do know that there are Democrats who are showing up and Democrats who are voting in support of these resolutions, particularly in rural Virginia.
00:45:10.100You know, I think it's a pro-gun, anti-gun split, honestly.
00:45:13.700And the Democrats in the state, quite frankly, they're flipping out.
00:45:18.140Congressman Donald McEachin, who represents Virginia's 4th Congressional District, talked about how Governor Northam should send out the National Guard to enforce these new gun control laws in counties that refuse to, you know, enforce gun bans or magazine bans.
00:45:33.300Governor Northam has promised that there will be some sort of unspecified consequences for counties that do not capitulate.
00:45:40.340But so far, you know, that doesn't seem to be having any effect on the movement whatsoever.
00:45:44.940So what do you suppose the people of Virginia will do if they send out the National Guard to enforce something that is, I mean, it kills me, you know, sanctuary cities are known as cities that are breaking the law and saying and defying the law.
00:46:04.300Now, this one is saying, no, no, no, no, it's a Bill of Rights issue, and we're standing by the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and not letting you in.
00:46:16.440What do the Democrats think would happen if they enforce it with some sort of National Guard?
00:46:26.300I guess they assumed that folks would comply, but I just don't see that happening.
00:46:35.660We're now seeing Commonwealth attorneys, which are local prosecutors in Virginia, that are also saying, you know what, we're not going to go out and we're not going to arrest anybody for, you know, having a 20-round magazine or we're not going to go out and seize anybody's guns.
00:46:48.840And ultimately, I think that's what this comes down to.
00:46:52.320The governor and these anti-gun lawmakers can put these laws on the books, but they've taught us, Glenn, how to resist over the last few years.
00:47:01.340And we're taking pages from their playbook.
00:47:03.600We're doing exactly what they've done.
00:47:05.400You know, even in the state of Virginia, there was a commonwealth attorney earlier this year in Portsmouth, Virginia, who announced that she would be dismissing every misdemeanor marijuana case that was brought to her office.
00:47:17.880He didn't threaten her with sanctions or said that there would be consequences for her ignoring state law.
00:47:23.640So why would it be any different if we're talking about, you know, not enforcing, quite frankly, a lot of these laws are unenforceable anyway, but not enforcing universal background checks or not enforcing a magazine ban?
00:47:37.400I just don't see the difference there.
00:47:38.940And I think the Democrats have kind of painted themselves into a corner.
00:47:42.120Look, everybody says that, you know, we have to have universal background checks.
00:47:59.280We've got background checks on every retail sale of a firearm.
00:48:02.360And what they want to do is they want to expand that to private transfers, even between family and friends.
00:48:07.320So even though, you know, I think you and I met for the first time back in 2003, it would be illegal for me to even loan you a firearm if you came to visit me in Virginia.
00:48:25.540But if you look at states where these laws have been put on the books, Colorado, for example, passed their universal background check law in 2013, violent crime is up more than 25 percent in the state of Colorado since that background check law was put on the books.
00:48:39.880So if this is about public safety, it doesn't work.
00:48:42.640If it's about targeting legal gun owners, and I think that's what it's really about, then that's enough for these gun control advocates to push it.
00:48:49.620So if the governor decides to call out the National Guard, which I – do you think that's realistic, that that's even a realistic –
00:49:01.420I think it's much more likely that the government – or that the governor would try to use the Virginia State Police,
00:49:06.460that the attorney general would maybe use his office to come in and prosecute in counties and take cases, you know, that the commonwealth's attorney or not.
00:49:15.160But I would be shocked and really, really bitterly disappointed if the governor actually tried to do something like send out the National Guard.
00:49:24.480And I think that would fail, by the way.
00:49:25.780I think that, you know, again, the National Guard is made up in Virginia of Virginians.
00:49:30.320And I don't think those members of the National Guard are any more enthusiastic about enforcing these gun control laws than the county sheriffs and a lot of local cops.
00:49:38.360I mean, this is something that people have talked about for a long time.
00:49:41.620You know, if the Army was ever turned against the American people, would they shoot?
00:49:44.680This is even harder to believe because, as you said, those are Virginians, and they would be enforcing a law on Virginians.
00:49:54.460And most of those people are probably Second Amendment right people.
00:49:59.220And I just – I mean, that's a big test to lose, especially.
00:50:06.420But, again, like I said, I think they've painted themselves into a corner here.
00:50:08.920I mean, even if you get into prosecuting individuals for, you know, violating these new gun laws that they want to put on the books, you know, there were – I think it was Rockingham County.
00:50:17.940There were about 3,000 people who crammed into a high school gymnasium and about another 3,000 who couldn't fit who were outside the other night.
00:50:24.980But I'm looking at that, and I'm thinking, you know, are any of those people – if they serve in a jury pool, are they going to convict their neighbor?
00:50:33.580Are they going to convict the person who owns the hardware store that they visit on a weekly basis?
00:50:39.840And so whether it's through, you know, a jury nullification, whether it's through the Second Amendment sanctuary resolutions, whether it's through the discretion that law enforcement already has, I just don't see a way for these gun control laws to be fully enforced across the state of Virginia.
00:50:58.900I think they're going to be enforced in deep blue areas.
00:51:01.160I think we're going to see exactly what we've seen in places like New York State, for example, after they passed the SAFE Act.
00:51:06.480The majority of prosecutions under that gun control package take place in two boroughs of New York City, the Bronx and Brooklyn.
00:51:12.920And the vast majority of people who are prosecuted are young black men with no violent criminal history who are sent to prison for three and a half years for simply possessing a firearm without a license.
00:51:23.080And I think it's going to be young minority men in low-income neighborhoods who are primarily going to be impacted by these gun control laws in Virginia.
00:51:31.460And I don't know that that's the legacy that, you know, Governor Blackface Northam really wants to leave.
00:51:36.480Kim, have you heard the case in Illinois of the woman who is trying to defend herself?
00:52:10.280And, yeah, I'm very familiar with this story.
00:52:13.140I have actually learned a couple of additional pieces of information, including the fact that this guy apparently has been convicted of battering this woman in the past on a couple of occasions.
00:52:21.340I did learn that the woman was able to bond out, thankfully, so she's back out.
00:52:27.680But, again, it's absolutely egregious that the state of Illinois and the state's attorney in Illinois would look at this case and decide that this woman who acted in self-defense, and police say she acted in self-defense, that this woman should face a higher bond than the guy who beat her in her car.
00:52:44.100It's the holiday, and I just want you to know we're praying for you and Miss E.
00:52:57.060She's enjoying the holidays right now.
00:52:58.600She's actually not on any form of treatment at the moment.
00:53:01.940She was in a clinical trial for her non-small cell lung cancer, but she had some side effects, so she had to get off of it.
00:53:07.120So her oncologist said, you know, look, let's take a couple months, let's see if any clinical trials open up, and she's got an appointment next week.
00:53:15.400And hopefully she'll be back getting some treatment soon, but her spirits are good.
00:53:21.680She's busy knitting and crocheting little corny goat critters that she's putting up for sale in her Etsy shop, and we're just trying to enjoy the holidays.
00:53:31.180You know, we're trying to make every day count.
00:53:38.280You know, it's my job to be her rock, so I let her, you know, put all of that on me, and then occasionally I'll, you know, wander outside.
00:53:47.280Thankfully, we live on 40 acres, and my neighbors can't hear when I yell and scream at the moon or the sun or the clouds, and I get it out of my system, and I go back, and I do what I can to, again, make sure that her every day is as good as it can be.