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00:00:00.000 Wow, it's Tuesday and what a great podcast lined up for you. First of all,

00:00:04.240 oh, the mistakes, the mistakes, the learning opportunities that are just ahead of you on

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00:00:15.000 degree from Harvard. That's how much education you're going to find. Yeah, you're going to learn

00:00:18.760 a lot of things to not do. And we start with Congresswoman Omar's apology. It's a great

00:00:27.160 apology. Wow. We really learned an awful lot. Also, David Harsani is here to tell us about the

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00:02:12.080 So Congresswoman Omar from Minnesota is a little misunderstanding. There was a little

00:02:19.120 misunderstanding. She had no idea. No, she didn't know. She did not. She did not know. This happens

00:02:25.640 from time to time. People aren't perfect. And people have to give time to be able to learn

00:02:31.400 about different things in the world. There's a lot of new concepts for people. Right. Did you know,

00:02:37.520 Glenn, that in the past, no Jews have had some issues and some people have not liked them?

00:02:45.420 All right. This is all news to me. And well, let me just read. Anti-Semitism is real. And I am

00:02:51.640 grateful for Jewish allies and colleagues who are educating me on the painful history of anti-Semitic

00:02:57.780 tropes. Did you know? I had no idea. I had no idea. There were tropes out there like Jews use money

00:03:04.180 to influence people and control the world. I had never heard it before. I had never heard it before.

00:03:09.480 That's probably one of the smaller tropes, don't you think? Oh, I think so. Yeah. My intention was

00:03:16.260 never to offend my constituents or Jewish Americans as a whole. Oh, no. We always have to be willing to

00:03:22.720 step back and think through criticism, just as I expect people to hear me when others attack me

00:03:27.440 for my identity. This is why I unequivocally apologize. Now, it's interesting because she

00:03:33.560 is using this opportunity of her own anti-Semitism to point out that she's also a victim.

00:03:43.200 She's also a victim, Glenn. She gets attacked all the time. All the time she gets attacked. And she

00:03:47.200 hopes people listen to her. Now, look, as a Palestinian, or as a woman who is, what's her

00:03:52.580 background? She's Muslim. She's Muslim. She's Muslim. How could she possibly in her life have 1.00

00:03:59.860 come up with someone saying something anti-Semitic? No. It's all, it's incredibly unlikely that at any

00:04:05.980 time in her background would she ever come across someone else with an opinion like that? Yeah.

00:04:11.360 No. She's learning. She has nobody around her ever in her life. She has never heard,

00:04:20.740 as a Muslim, anything that might be anti-Semitic. In fact, she skips the parts of the Quran where it's 0.63

00:04:28.680 like, oh, rocks, cry out. There's a Jew hiding behind me. Oh, trees, cry out. She avoids those 1.00

00:04:35.440 things. She doesn't know. But she does say she unequivocally apologizes. At the same time,

00:04:41.340 I reaffirmed the problematic role of lobbyists in our politics. Wait. Hmm? Didn't she say it was

00:04:48.220 unequivocal? Yeah, it was unequivocal. But she's equivocating here just a bit. She just wants to 1.00

00:04:52.600 point out that Jews are influencing our politics with their money. So basically she's saying she 0.55

00:04:59.840 apologizes for any possible offense. She wants you to know. Let me summarize. She wants you to know,

00:05:05.860 Stu, that anti-Semitism is real. There are real problems. She wants to point out that there are

00:05:12.800 real problems. Unequivocally. Unequivocally. Yeah. Real problems with anti-Semitism. But

00:05:17.760 perhaps they wouldn't be so bad if there weren't so many Jews. That makes sense because it's true. I 1.00

00:05:24.400 mean, if there were less Jews, maybe the problem would be... Correct. Would be slightly less. 0.94

00:05:28.580 It would be less. You know what I mean? And here's Linda Sarsour to tell us more. Now,

00:05:33.740 Linda Sarsour, if you... This is unbelievable. I mean, that is not the character witness you need

00:05:40.640 at this time, man. No. I love this. Linda, a women's march leader, Linda Sarsour,

00:05:45.700 rushes to Representative Omar's defense. I'm thinking with friends like this, who needs enemies?

00:05:52.040 Yeah. You don't know, Linda. No. Back away. Back away. Now, we remember Linda because Linda was the 0.98

00:05:59.500 one in the women's march that we told you just recently, as it was falling apart, that, remember,

00:06:06.100 she was meeting with some Jewish women at the very beginning of the women's march. And she was,

00:06:13.200 you know, she was perhaps explaining some of these Jewish tropes, these anti-Jewish tropes.

00:06:21.520 To the Jewish women there. It sounded like she was being very anti-Semitic, but I'm sure she was 1.00

00:06:27.920 learning. Anyway, she said, I will not be silenced in the face of attacks, harassment, and targeted

00:06:35.580 policing of speech. So wait, Linda Sarsour is concerned about targeted speech. Very concerned about it.

00:06:48.140 Now, sure, her entire organization exists to get people fired for things that they've said online. 1.00

00:06:55.300 But, you know, she's very concerned about the targeted speech thing. And she's a great character.

00:06:59.800 I know, like, if I knew someone who was accused of sexual harassment, I would want Harvey Weinstein

00:07:05.760 to jump right in and defend. Right? Right in there. Please, Harvey, jump in. Hang on, hang on, hang on,

00:07:10.720 hang on just a second. I'm receiving a message from beyond. Hang on, I'm just trying to translate

00:07:17.560 this. A, D, O, L, F, H, I.

00:07:33.800 I'm getting some sort of message. Somebody wants to communicate from beyond that is telling us

00:07:39.260 that she's okay. Oh, good. She's okay. She's got support here in this life and beyond, according

00:07:46.720 to the Ouija board today. That's good to hear. So anyway, she says she is not going to stand by

00:07:52.780 and see attacks and harassment and targeted policing of speech from a black Muslim woman

00:08:00.620 elected official, our sister, Sister Omar, in the name of combating anti-Semitism.

00:08:08.240 We can stand up for Congresswoman Omar knowing her record and what she stands for.

00:08:14.520 She's been in Congress for like several weeks, so her record is very well.

00:08:18.000 Oh, no, it's very, very, very clear.

00:08:19.520 Yeah, she definitely has a record. The record's not in Congress. It's been the things that she's 0.97

00:08:23.580 said over her lifetime, which indicate perhaps maybe she has heard some of these tropes before. 0.90

00:08:29.400 Maybe, maybe, just there's a slight possibility that what she's saying now is complete bullcrap.

00:08:36.420 There's a possibility of it. 0.93

00:08:37.900 No.

00:08:38.220 I know. It's an outlandish possibility.

00:08:40.660 I mean, she's found humor in so many situations, Glenn. So many wonderful situations. Like when

00:08:46.380 she was talking about Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah in 2013. This is, she was fantastic. Let's listen

00:08:53.220 to some of this.

00:08:53.780 A product of this sensationalized media. You know, you have these sound bites and you

00:09:02.500 have these words and everybody says it with such an, you know, intensity.

00:09:07.400 Right.

00:09:07.520 And so it must mean, it must hold a bigger meaning.

00:09:11.220 It sounds strange and weird.

00:09:12.520 You know, and I remember when I was in college, I took a terrorism class.

00:09:18.100 Is that a such thing?

00:09:19.080 Yeah, there was.

00:09:19.880 So you go, there is a lab for that?

00:09:21.600 There was a class that you.

00:09:23.400 Do you go to a lab?

00:09:24.460 No.

00:09:24.760 Go out a field trip?

00:09:25.700 We learned the ideology.

00:09:28.120 I'm glad you do that.

00:09:30.060 And so it was, it was the thing that was interesting in the class was every time the, the, the professor

00:09:36.780 said Al-Qaeda, he sort of like his shoulders went up and, you know, Al-Qaeda, you know,

00:09:43.420 hospital.

00:09:43.800 He's an expert.

00:09:45.760 And he was, you know, as it, we are not, we are not saying.

00:09:51.520 That is so funny.

00:09:53.180 That is so funny.

00:09:54.220 He was like freaked out by Al-Qaeda.

00:09:56.660 Is it like he was an expert on Al-Qaeda, you know, or Hezbollah, like he knows what terrorists

00:10:02.620 are.

00:10:03.000 Let's, let's say where he lives.

00:10:04.440 That's a funny way to go with that.

00:10:06.180 Where does he live?

00:10:08.040 Oh man.

00:10:09.360 She's hilarious.

00:10:10.280 Oh, she's great. 0.89

00:10:11.500 Hey, um, somebody else, you know, Tlaib.

00:10:14.220 Oh yeah.

00:10:14.740 Yeah.

00:10:15.180 Congresswoman Tlaib. 1.00

00:10:16.360 Um, she has, uh, in 2006, a lot of people didn't know this, but.

00:10:21.180 She wrote an op-ed for the final call.

00:10:23.920 Oh, I love the final call.

00:10:25.440 You get the final call?

00:10:26.600 Oh, I, I think I do.

00:10:28.000 Is that, um, is that.

00:10:29.880 That's Louis Farrakhan's newspaper.

00:10:32.640 So the final, we all get it.

00:10:34.700 I mean.

00:10:34.860 Got a lifetime subscription.

00:10:36.100 Do you?

00:10:36.880 Oh yeah.

00:10:37.200 It's really good.

00:10:38.240 Yeah.

00:10:38.660 So, uh, you know.

00:10:40.480 But how would any of these people come across anti-Semitic tropes?

00:10:43.720 They couldn't.

00:10:44.340 It's almost impossible in their life.

00:10:45.620 Well, she was talking about how Israel has a delusional ISIS-like ideology.

00:10:50.340 Oh, okay.

00:10:51.200 Uh, and that the creation of that country was a crime.

00:10:54.500 Uh, but other than that.

00:10:55.960 But other than that, there's nothing here.

00:10:58.740 No, no big deal.

00:10:59.600 There's not a long history here at all.

00:11:01.800 Uh, by the way, and I'm not making this up, David Duke also came in to, uh, tweet his

00:11:06.940 support. 0.88

00:11:07.720 David Duke's a big, he does not like the Jews.

00:11:09.840 People, you know.

00:11:11.240 Well, no, no, no, no, no. 0.99

00:11:12.280 On the front of his business card, it says, I don't like black people. 0.98

00:11:14.620 But if you really look at the resume, you notice he does not like Jews all that much 0.99

00:11:18.340 either.

00:11:19.120 Not a fan.

00:11:19.980 Well, but he's not using tropes.

00:11:21.900 No, he occasionally will use a trope.

00:11:23.700 No, no, no.

00:11:25.020 No, he just talks facts.

00:11:26.280 Like, like, uh, Congresswoman Omar said, you know, look, I don't want to be anti-Semitic,

00:11:33.760 but there's some real problem with Jews.

00:11:36.600 So, you know, that's what David Duke is doing.

00:11:39.360 He's like, I don't want to, I'm sorry that I was using a trope.

00:11:42.360 I just need to tell you the facts.

00:11:44.080 If it wasn't for all these Jews, you know, we wouldn't have all these problems if it wasn't 1.00

00:11:48.580 for all these Jews. 0.93

00:11:49.420 Uh, and, uh, hang on just a second.

00:11:52.520 I'm getting another, I'm getting another message from beyond with the Ouija board.

00:11:57.700 It's, this one's from H I M M L E.

00:12:11.240 So some, some, him, him, somebody, I don't know.

00:12:14.300 I don't have time.

00:12:17.300 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:12:19.420 It finally happened.

00:12:27.220 It's fixed.

00:12:28.100 We're done now.

00:12:29.420 Uh, yeah.

00:12:30.500 I don't think we are.

00:12:31.480 No, we're cool.

00:12:32.160 Totally.

00:12:32.680 This is totally cool.

00:12:33.600 Cause they got $1.375 billion to build a full 55 miles of border wall.

00:12:43.420 I mean, that's impenetrable.

00:12:45.440 Hang on.

00:12:45.840 Just a second.

00:12:46.280 Get around or over that on a 2000 mile border.

00:12:49.140 You can't hold it just a second.

00:12:50.680 I thought we know that estimates, and they're always wrong.

00:12:54.820 Estimates are that it's going to take at least $20 billion to build a fence.

00:12:59.580 It's $25 billion, but now we're, we're, no, it's fixed.

00:13:03.500 But we had $5 billion, right?

00:13:06.520 Yeah, we did.

00:13:07.120 Well, it was, initially, it was, initially it was $25 billion.

00:13:10.800 They did offer the full amount, uh, just a year ago, uh, but that, that, that, that's no

00:13:15.900 longer available.

00:13:16.660 And then before the shutdown, they did offer $1.7 billion.

00:13:21.280 Um, and now after the shutdown, they're getting everything they need, the $1.5 billion.

00:13:29.240 Well, through deft and expert negotiation, they were able to get just a little bit less

00:13:35.040 than the worst offer, uh, before the shutdown.

00:13:38.080 So here's the problem.

00:13:38.880 Here is the, seriously, here is the problem.

00:13:41.740 He blinked.

00:13:43.520 The great thing, the reason why Donald Trump is one of the best negotiators, and I mean

00:13:48.740 this sincerely, my favorite Donald Trump story, you've heard it a million times, is how he

00:13:53.320 built Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue.

00:13:55.640 They have air rights in New York.

00:13:57.940 People own the air. 0.98

00:14:00.340 Above your building, right?

00:14:01.220 Above your building.

00:14:01.920 So Tiffany's, which is on the corner opposite of, uh, of Trump Tower and about half a block

00:14:09.580 away, Tiffany's actually owns all of the air above Fifth Avenue for a couple of blocks.

00:14:16.340 And so you couldn't build anything over like, I think four stories on Fifth Avenue in those

00:14:22.480 blocks because of Tiffany's.

00:14:24.300 So he went to Tiffany.

00:14:26.000 It was either Tiffany's or Cartier.

00:14:27.320 I think it was Tiffany's.

00:14:28.200 Um, and he said, um, he, before he left, he talked to his architect and said, I want

00:14:34.360 you to draw up two plans.

00:14:35.500 I want you to drop the Trump Tower that we we've been talking about a beautiful tower.

00:14:39.540 And I want you to draw up the plans for the ugliest building that is five stories, ugliest 0.72

00:14:47.380 building you could possibly ever imagine. 0.67

00:14:50.600 And so he did.

00:14:51.980 And he brought them both to a meeting and he said, Hey, I want to build Trump Tower.

00:14:56.020 And, uh, the owner of the air rights said, no, well, uh, well, there won't be anything

00:15:02.180 over five stories here because we own the air rights and we're not going to sell them

00:15:05.960 to you.

00:15:06.300 We don't want some monstrosity here.

00:15:08.280 And he said, you know what?

00:15:09.800 You are so right.

00:15:11.140 You are so right.

00:15:12.040 Now I've already bought this property with plans to build this, but I knew that you might

00:15:16.900 be, um, set on a small building.

00:15:19.760 So here's what I'm going to build.

00:15:21.540 If you don't sell me the air rights and he laid it out and he said, I'll leave it up

00:15:26.800 to you, but I want you to know I will build that building.

00:15:32.580 He did not blink.

00:15:34.320 And he's a great negotiator because when he got back to the office, they were already on

00:15:39.280 the phone saying, come back. 1.00

00:15:40.740 We'll do that because they knew that son of a bitch will do it. 1.00

00:15:45.960 He blinked, he, he made a promise that he wasn't willing to keep. 1.00

00:15:53.760 And they knew that he wouldn't keep it.

00:15:56.320 All of his power goes away.

00:15:58.520 Remember he is the president that I've been looking for, for a while.

00:16:03.700 And this one category, a guy with a twitchy eye, I've said this for years.

00:16:08.820 You want your enemies need to feel like the president has a twitchy eye where they look

00:16:14.800 at each other and go, that guy just might do it. 1.00

00:16:17.240 I think he's nuts.

00:16:18.780 So I preferred that that's the way Russia looked at our, our president, not necessarily the 0.98

00:16:24.520 people in our own country, but he has that twitchy eye and you never know what he's going

00:16:31.200 to do.

00:16:31.820 Well, he telegraphed that he was willing to cave.

00:16:35.960 We should clarify.

00:16:36.840 He hasn't done that yet.

00:16:38.400 No, he hasn't.

00:16:38.980 Right.

00:16:39.140 So they, this deal was supposedly struck up between Republicans and Democrats.

00:16:44.140 He still has not signed it or approved it yet.

00:16:47.520 He could still reject it.

00:16:49.220 Now I, how lame are Republicans though?

00:16:52.640 For accepting this. 0.95

00:16:53.260 How lame are they?

00:16:55.200 They have no, they've never had any intention. 0.87

00:16:57.880 They haven't.

00:16:58.440 They never had any intention.

00:17:00.180 55 miles of border protection is like finding out you have lung cancer and your doctor says,

00:17:05.840 here's a throat lozenge.

00:17:07.360 Good luck.

00:17:08.700 Wait, that's it?

00:17:09.880 That's what I get for lung cancer?

00:17:11.780 Yeah.

00:17:12.400 That's what 55 miles of border is when you have a 2000 mile border.

00:17:16.900 It's nothing.

00:17:17.980 It doesn't, it doesn't help.

00:17:19.520 The problem is not even worth doing.

00:17:21.100 I think where you can look at this and say, there's a real problem is that Democrats know

00:17:25.700 that this is all being blamed on Republicans.

00:17:28.080 If there is another shutdown.

00:17:29.460 So they have absolutely no leverage here.

00:17:31.980 And part of that is because Trump came out and said it was me.

00:17:34.120 Like, look, the shutdown is mine.

00:17:35.840 I own it.

00:17:36.680 And he thought he could stick with that.

00:17:38.500 But he, I think he found out that didn't work for him because he didn't make the case

00:17:43.760 relentlessly.

00:17:45.020 And then he needed to make the case.

00:17:47.700 The American people could have been with him if he made the case.

00:17:50.920 Look at how Democrats do that.

00:17:53.120 They pound.

00:17:55.000 Yeah, but they also have, they also have the press, which makes it really easy.

00:18:00.120 Yeah.

00:18:00.320 But the president's got Fox news.

00:18:02.020 I mean, they could, they'd help him with this.

00:18:03.600 President has Fox news.

00:18:04.800 He also has talk radio.

00:18:06.420 He has, he has, uh, tons of outlets.

00:18:09.420 Remember what president Obama was doing message.

00:18:11.860 Remember what president Obama was doing at the end of his term.

00:18:14.900 He was only talking to bloggers.

00:18:17.580 Yeah.

00:18:19.260 You know, YouTubers, YouTubers and bloggers.

00:18:22.480 Why the president isn't on, um, you know, uh, Ben Shapiro's show.

00:18:29.540 Why he's not on.

00:18:30.820 I mean, I'll, I'll understand why he wasn't on our show.

00:18:33.720 It might be a little, uh, wounding, uh, for him or for me either way.

00:18:38.380 Uh, but I welcome him to make his case here.

00:18:41.660 Well, of course.

00:18:42.100 Yes.

00:18:42.400 Uh, people know the case on the border.

00:18:44.040 Don't they?

00:18:44.760 I mean, people are aware that what's going on in the border and they still not.

00:18:47.540 Did you see what people were saying?

00:18:49.840 Oral and all that.

00:18:50.560 I, yeah.

00:18:51.060 You see how it was.

00:18:52.480 Look at the poll numbers, even from Republicans towards the end.

00:18:55.960 Right.

00:18:56.340 I mean, they're not good.

00:18:57.320 And we've been talking about this for how long.

00:18:59.360 I mean, I, you know, how many times?

00:19:01.000 20 years.

00:19:01.800 Well, yeah, 20 years.

00:19:02.840 And Trump's at least for four.

00:19:05.040 Yeah.

00:19:05.360 We're coming up on four years since he came down that escalator and made that speech.

00:19:08.520 The border's been the biggest issue in the country ever since.

00:19:10.940 Look, the problem is with the Republicans is they don't have any big ideas.

00:19:16.040 Yeah.

00:19:16.360 No, there's nothing.

00:19:16.860 Hey, look at, look at how.

00:19:17.920 Even if they did, they couldn't sell it.

00:19:19.400 I know.

00:19:19.660 Look at how the Green New Deal is being embraced by millennials.

00:19:25.280 You can sell the Green New Deal to your base, but we can't. 0.96

00:19:28.700 Sell anything to the conservative base.

00:19:31.900 Because we don't have anything new.

00:19:33.880 We're not reaching out for the stars.

00:19:36.760 Look at, look at what we did yesterday.

00:19:38.920 He signed an executive order for AI, but it was not an inspirational AI executive order.

00:19:47.060 It really did nothing.

00:19:48.060 It said, okay, to the, to the departments all in the United States government, you should

00:19:55.200 look into AI and see if we can develop, you know, friendly AI, et cetera.

00:20:00.360 There's a moment here where he could have said, look, the world is on the edge of profound

00:20:06.820 change and it's either going to be good or it's going to be bad.

00:20:09.480 We're going to be the leaders of good while everyone else is pursuing AI just to conquer

00:20:16.240 the world.

00:20:16.960 We are going to pursue AI to help us solve cancer and cure cancer and muscular dystrophy

00:20:24.200 and multiple sclerosis.

00:20:25.840 We are going to cure things in the next 10 years because the United States is going to

00:20:30.700 find a way to get AI and be there first.

00:20:35.380 Everyone else wants to have it so they can conquer the world. 0.54

00:20:38.840 We want to do it so we can conquer hunger.

00:20:41.780 We can conquer slavery.

00:20:43.540 We can conquer sex trade. 0.93

00:20:45.760 We can conquer cancer.

00:20:48.000 That's inspiring.

00:20:50.080 And it would cost you almost nothing.

00:20:53.300 What about flat tax reform?

00:20:54.780 You could, this would be the time to do it with all the extreme proposals on the left.

00:20:59.780 People want something new.

00:21:01.840 They want something new.

00:21:03.760 Or at least bold.

00:21:04.640 I mean, the flat tax isn't new, but at least it's bold.

00:21:06.680 It's bold.

00:21:06.900 I know.

00:21:07.300 It is new because nobody's, nobody's ever really seriously considered it and done it.

00:21:11.840 I mean, I think that was one of the issues with the speech, which was a good speech,

00:21:14.780 I thought, generally.

00:21:15.140 I thought it was a great speech.

00:21:15.960 But there was not a bold new idea there, right?

00:21:18.580 I thought there was at the end and the beginning, but it was all about coming together and uniting.

00:21:24.240 But you have to unite around an idea bigger than unification.

00:21:30.860 You know what I mean?

00:21:32.340 He started out great when he said, look, we united, you know, against the Nazis for freedom of the world.

00:21:39.220 We united and put a man on the moon.

00:21:41.880 Yes, it does bring us together when there's a big idea.

00:21:45.420 And in a vacuum where there are no big ideas, a big idea like let's get rid of every car and airplane in the next 10 years, people like the sound of a new deal.

00:21:57.620 And they will run to it.

00:21:59.140 You'll notice the college campus reform just did a video that's really telling.

00:22:05.460 Really good.

00:22:05.700 Yeah.

00:22:05.860 They said, are you for it?

00:22:07.920 Oh, absolutely.

00:22:09.240 It's a big idea.

00:22:12.440 I like these ideas where we're going to go take something on.

00:22:15.500 It's progressive.

00:22:16.580 I really like that.

00:22:17.600 It's progressive. 1.00

00:22:18.620 As soon as they start reading the details, they're like, wait, no, that's stupid. 1.00

00:22:22.760 We don't want to do that. 1.00

00:22:23.840 No, that's no.

00:22:24.580 That's crazy.

00:22:25.260 No, no, no, no, no.

00:22:26.300 Where are the big ideas?

00:22:30.080 Where are the things that we can all unite around?

00:22:33.680 They're too timid to do any of them.

00:22:35.360 That has to be the president's message.

00:22:37.920 He cannot spend the next year.

00:22:40.340 They are going to spend it on division.

00:22:42.880 You have to spend it on a uniting idea, a big idea.

00:22:48.380 And you can't just say the wall.

00:22:50.840 If you want to make it about the wall, Mike Lee says there is a legal way, constitutional way, to build it in some areas.

00:23:01.880 Without an executive order?

00:23:03.540 With an executive order.

00:23:05.040 And he said it would be constitutional.

00:23:07.340 Not all of it, but a good portion of it.

00:23:10.380 You want to pursue that?

00:23:11.840 As long as it's constitutional, pursue that.

00:23:15.480 Pursue that.

00:23:16.160 But then add in things like, let's make this easier for people who really want to be here to come in.

00:23:26.380 Let's widen the door while at the same time we shut off the illegal immigration. 1.00

00:23:35.800 Just start on that.

00:23:37.860 Let's widen the door.

00:23:38.880 If you have a mind for AI, if you're one of the best AI people around, we want to use it to cure cancer, not to control people.

00:23:48.860 Come here.

00:23:50.060 We welcome you.

00:23:51.460 Your green card, your visa will be easy to get.

00:23:54.320 It'll be the easiest place to come in to research for AI.

00:23:57.920 He's got to start making, he's got to start showing progress on the future instead of digging into the past because the left is not digging into the past.

00:24:10.320 Well, they are.

00:24:11.140 It's the spooky 1940 past.

00:24:16.240 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:24:27.920 Hi, it's Glenn.

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00:24:40.700 Thanks.

00:24:41.020 Dave Isay is the guy who came up with the idea of StoryCorps.

00:24:46.740 And StoryCorps is this really cool service, if you will, that is recording voices for our national archives.

00:24:55.080 And they're recording our stories, and they do this all over the country in many different ways.

00:25:01.620 But we wanted to talk to Dave on Valentine's Week about the people who they have found that are deeply, deeply in love.

00:25:10.900 Welcome to the program, David.

00:25:12.680 Glenn, it's great to be back.

00:25:14.440 Thank you.

00:25:15.000 So tell me about Danny and Annie.

00:25:18.840 Sure.

00:25:21.020 This is the story you were mentioning a little bit earlier.

00:25:24.440 Danny and Annie, and as you said, StoryCorps is this project where we have booths all across the country.

00:25:30.140 We're a nonprofit, and you come with a loved one for the most part, and you sit for 40 minutes and record your story with each other just in audio.

00:25:38.020 And then you keep a copy, and another goes to the Library of Congress so your great, great, great, great grandkids can get to know you through your voice and story.

00:25:45.080 So this is a love story that goes back to the first week of StoryCorps when we launched 15 years ago in Grand Central Terminal.

00:25:51.140 Back then, like, nobody understood what we were doing, and very few people actually came.

00:25:55.920 We've now had half a million people participate.

00:25:58.380 But Danny and Annie happened upon the booth.

00:26:01.160 They're from Brooklyn, and Danny was a betting clerk, and Annie was a nurse, and they came to the booth to tell the story of their first date that had happened 25 years before.

00:26:14.360 Now, they have thick Brooklyn accents, so you have to listen very carefully.

00:26:17.720 Okay, so here they are in 2004.

00:26:21.400 She started to talk, and I said, listen, I'm going to deliver a speech.

00:26:24.760 I said, at the end, you're going to want to go home.

00:26:26.720 I said, you represent a 34-letter word.

00:26:29.340 I said, that word is love. 0.70

00:26:30.680 I said, if we're going anywhere, we're going down the aisle because I'm too tired, too sick, and too sore to do any other damn thing. 0.88

00:26:36.620 And she turned around, and she said, well, of course I'll marry you. 0.90

00:26:41.100 And the next morning, I called her as early as I possibly could.

00:26:44.580 And he always gets up early.

00:26:46.480 To make sure she hadn't changed her mind, and she hadn't.

00:26:50.560 And every year on April 22nd, around 3 o'clock, I called her and asked her, if it was today, would she do it again?

00:26:58.060 And so far, the answer's been the same.

00:26:59.980 Yeah, 25 times yes.

00:27:01.200 You see, the thing of it is, I always feel guilty when I say I love you to you, and I say it so often.

00:27:08.380 I say it to remind you that as dumpy as I am, it's coming for me.

00:27:13.120 It's like hearing a beautiful song from a busted old radio.

00:27:17.140 And it's nice of you to keep the radio around the house.

00:27:19.620 If I don't have a note on the kitchen table, I think there's something wrong.

00:27:22.900 You write a love letter to me every morning. 0.76

00:27:24.520 The only thing that could possibly be wrong is I couldn't find a silly pen.

00:27:27.380 To my princess, the weather out today is extremely rainy.

00:27:32.740 I'll call you at 11.20 in the morning.

00:27:35.040 It's a romantic weather report.

00:27:36.120 And I love you, I love you, I love you.

00:27:39.280 When a guy is happily married, no matter what happens at work, no matter what happens in the rest of the day,

00:27:44.320 there's a shelter when you get home.

00:27:46.120 There's a knowledge, knowing that you can hug somebody without them throwing you downstairs and saying,

00:27:50.160 get your hands off me. 1.00

00:27:52.420 Being married is like having a color television set.

00:27:55.180 You never want to go back to black and white.

00:27:57.380 So, David, this is Danny and Annie.

00:28:02.340 And in listening to that, it makes me want to start the tradition far too late of writing a note to my wife every day.

00:28:12.080 Yeah, I mean, they were really in love.

00:28:15.820 Danny was not, you know, if you saw a picture of him, you can almost get it from his voice.

00:28:25.000 But he was about five feet tall.

00:28:27.040 He was bald.

00:28:28.100 His eyes were extremely crossed.

00:28:30.820 He had one little snaggletooth.

00:28:32.600 And the guy had more romance in his little pinky than all the phonies in the Hollywood put together.

00:28:37.020 And, you know, he was a guy like, you know, people used to laugh at him walking down the street because, you know, he talked funny and he looked funny.

00:28:46.640 And I think that coming to StoryCorps with Annie and having a lot of people respond to that first story, we're going to play another story later.

00:28:53.640 They're just, you know, it's about reminding people that they matter and they're important and they won't be forgotten.

00:28:58.720 And Danny and those, you know, that was the first week of StoryCorps.

00:29:02.360 And, you know, it speaks to he was what StoryCorps is all about.

00:29:05.820 It's about the grace and the poetry and the eloquence and the beauty in the stories of us, of all around us, hiding in plain sight if we just take the time to listen.

00:29:16.700 So they became big hits with the StoryCorps audience and everybody loved them, as you can imagine.

00:29:24.900 But then just a couple of years later, Danny and Annie received some news and they came back to StoryCorps to talk about the fact that he had been diagnosed with terminal cancer and it was a very fast spreading cancer.

00:29:45.100 And he wanted one to record one last interview with Annie.

00:29:51.000 He couldn't come out to you.

00:29:53.640 You guys had to go to him.

00:29:56.140 That's right.

00:29:56.780 When we after he got Danny had come back to StoryCorps with Annie to read their love letters over and over again over the years.

00:30:02.960 And he brought every character he'd ever met in his life to StoryCorps, undercover narcotics detectives and major league umpires.

00:30:10.680 And he'd have a cataract operation and want to come in and document it.

00:30:13.700 They were like family.

00:30:15.100 And when he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, stage four and stage, we actually that week named renamed our original booth, the Danny and Annie Parasa StoryCorps booth.

00:30:25.340 And then the next week he said, will you come up?

00:30:27.920 Come.

00:30:28.140 I'm too sick to get to the booth, but I need to record one last interview with Annie.

00:30:32.100 Will you come to our house in Sunset Park in Queens?

00:30:34.940 And we did.

00:30:35.800 And here is a clip of that.

00:30:37.860 The illness is not hard on me.

00:30:41.340 It's just, you know, the finality of it.

00:30:44.040 And him, he goes along like a trooper.

00:30:46.060 Listen, even downhill, a car doesn't roll unless it's pushed, and you're giving me a great push.

00:30:52.240 The deal of it is, we try to give each other hope, and not hope that I'll live, hope that she'll do well after I pass, hope that people will support her, hope that if she meets somebody and likes him, she marries him.

00:31:08.000 You know, he has everything planned, you know.

00:31:11.740 I'm working on it.

00:31:13.760 She said it was her call.

00:31:15.660 She wants to walk out behind the casket alone.

00:31:18.520 I guess that's the way to do it, because when we were married, you know how your brother takes you down, your father takes you down?

00:31:27.720 She said, well, I don't know which of my brothers to walk in with.

00:31:30.780 I don't want to offend anybody.

00:31:32.420 I said, I got a solution.

00:31:34.880 I said, you walk in with me, you walk out with me.

00:31:37.460 And the other day, I said, who's going to walk down the aisle with you behind the casket, you know, to support her?

00:31:45.780 And she said, no, buddy.

00:31:47.960 I walked in with you alone.

00:31:50.200 I'm walking out with you alone.

00:31:54.060 There's a thing in life where you have to come to terms with dying.

00:31:59.340 Well, I haven't come to terms with dying yet.

00:32:01.240 I want to come to terms with being sure that you understand that my love for you up to this point was as much as it could be, and it'll be as much as it could be for eternity.

00:32:16.120 I always said the only thing I have to give you is a poor gift, and it's myself.

00:32:21.300 And I always gave it.

00:32:23.860 And if there's a way to come back and give it, I'll do that, too.

00:32:28.320 Do you have the Valentine's Day letter there?

00:32:30.800 Yeah.

00:32:32.140 My dearest wife, this is a very special day.

00:32:35.820 It is a day on which we share our love, which still grows after all these years.

00:32:41.200 Now that love is being used by us to sustain us through these hard times.

00:32:45.980 All my love, all my days, and more.

00:32:49.100 Happy Valentine's Day.

00:32:52.800 I could write on and on about her.

00:32:56.020 She lights up the room in the morning when she tells me to put both hands on her shoulders so she gets... 1.00

00:33:00.800 ...and she can support me.

00:33:01.760 She lights up my life when she says to me at night, wouldn't you like a little ice cream?

00:33:08.980 Or would you please drink more water?

00:33:11.560 I mean, those aren't very romantic things to say.

00:33:14.060 But they stir my heart.

00:33:18.080 In my mind, in my heart, there has never been, there is not now, and never will be another Annie.

00:33:28.740 He died just a few days later.

00:33:32.680 He was 67.

00:33:34.520 She's just turned 71.

00:33:36.540 And she came in to record one more story core to thank everyone and tell everyone that she's doing fine.

00:33:47.400 She has all of his love letters.

00:33:50.160 And it keeps her going.

00:33:52.020 Yes, she got, after the last interview with Danny was broadcast on the radio, on public radio,

00:34:06.140 and Danny actually heard it and then died about an hour later,

00:34:09.260 Annie got thousands and thousands and thousands of condolence letters.

00:34:13.900 And still to this day, many years later, she reads one of those letters instead of the love letter

00:34:18.360 she would have gotten from Danny.

00:34:20.400 She buried a copy of those letters with Danny in the casket

00:34:23.620 because she wanted to let him know that his life did matter.

00:34:27.380 And she's hanging in.

00:34:31.920 Dave, thank you so much for sharing these with us.

00:34:36.540 Well, thanks for having me on, Glenn.

00:34:37.840 Thanks for doing such great work.

00:34:40.960 Appreciate it.

00:34:41.740 And happy Valentine's Day to everybody.

00:34:43.380 Thank you, Dave Isay from StoryCorps.

00:34:48.360 No, I wasn't, uh, I wasn't ready for that yet.

00:34:56.820 I, uh, it's Valentine's Day tomorrow.

00:35:02.860 Is it tomorrow?

00:35:04.400 Thursday?

00:35:05.120 Ugh.

00:35:06.200 I know.

00:35:06.940 You're going to be nervous.

00:35:07.780 And, uh, you know, there is young love and then there's real love.

00:35:16.100 And young love is all about, uh, how somebody looks, how hot they are, how, how, how.

00:35:29.560 So, whatever shallow thing, I'm just thinking of, they're all just so shallow.

00:35:42.740 Love at the start is just so shallow usually.

00:35:46.160 And if you do it right, it grows into something, as he said, when she says, put your hands on

00:36:02.060 my shoulders so I can get, get up and out of bed or have some more water.

00:36:07.400 He said, those aren't romantic things, but they are with a mature love.

00:36:22.800 The things that you will do for your spouse or your spouse will do for you as you grow old

00:36:37.880 together are the things that make all the difference.

00:36:44.420 And they're the things that inspire the next generation is the couple that still holds hands.

00:36:56.320 It's the couple that still just hugs each other in the kitchen.

00:37:04.300 I always wanted to be that guy who grew old with his wife.

00:37:16.880 And I am so blessed to have that in my wife, Tanya, who has just been a remarkable woman.

00:37:34.600 And this Valentine's Day, it doesn't take chocolate and it doesn't take, you know, it doesn't take

00:37:44.620 anything special.

00:37:45.840 It helps, you know, to remind, but it is everything else that goes around Valentine's Day that really

00:37:55.920 makes the difference.

00:37:57.380 David Harsani, the author of Freedom First, a guy who is a senior editor at The Federalist

00:38:22.840 and a dear friend.

00:38:24.700 Welcome to the program, David.

00:38:27.240 Thank you for having me, Glenn.

00:38:28.300 You bet.

00:38:28.680 I know you've done a lot of work on the Green New Deal, which on its surface seems absolutely 0.90

00:38:35.520 nuts.

00:38:38.340 But you've you've really, you know, you've put the hood up on this thing and you've really

00:38:43.120 looked at it to see using the facts of the actual deal to see what's in it.

00:38:49.740 And you've found that.

00:38:53.600 Well, I should say it's not really a lot.

00:38:56.060 I wouldn't consider it work because it was actually a lot of fun to read through in one

00:38:59.360 sense.

00:38:59.900 Right.

00:39:00.160 But in another way, it's it's just crazy.

00:39:02.880 And it really, you know, I know she walked it back and I know that the authors walked

00:39:07.660 it back a bit.

00:39:08.280 But obviously, the very core of it is just nuts.

00:39:11.720 And that the core of it is that we're going to get rid of all our fossil fuels in 10 years,

00:39:15.340 not just fossil fuels, but also nuclear energy.

00:39:17.620 If anyone's at all serious about clean energy and moving away from carbon emissions and

00:39:24.500 dismisses nuclear energy, they can't be taken seriously.

00:39:27.340 No, they can't.

00:39:28.060 They can't.

00:39:28.600 It is the cleanest by far and helps us.

00:39:31.900 We could use all of the nighttime energy just to be able to make hydrogen.

00:39:39.520 I mean, there is so much that can be done with nuclear energy that would help us be completely

00:39:45.480 emission free that anybody who says that they're serious about having energy and clean

00:39:53.880 energy and they dismiss nuclear, they're they're they're they're frauds.

00:39:59.880 They're just frauds.

00:40:00.520 Well, they are or very immature or don't understand how the world works. 0.87

00:40:04.740 And, you know, this plan does not have any sort of it does not embrace economic reality

00:40:10.740 as a way I could put it.

00:40:12.440 I mean, imagine having to retrofit every single building in America in 12 years.

00:40:17.040 Imagine having to retrofit every car or get a new car so they can run on electricity, which

00:40:22.080 won't even be there because we won't have anything to generate.

00:40:24.320 It is just nuts in that way.

00:40:26.380 And then in another way that it's nuts is that it's a Trojan horse for or was a Trojan

00:40:29.960 horse for a bunch of socialistic plans like economic security for people, quote unquote,

00:40:35.200 unwilling to work, you know, and a bunch of even if you are willing to work, this is a

00:40:42.100 reversal of the Bill of Rights.

00:40:44.640 This is FDR's second Bill of Rights, is it not?

00:40:47.900 Yeah, it is.

00:40:49.040 And, you know, free education, you know, free housing or guaranteed housing.

00:40:53.860 And a bunch of other things of that nature that really have nothing to do with with green

00:40:58.720 energy or anything, anything like that to begin with.

00:41:01.840 So, David, is there is there anything serious in it that you can look at and say, well, you

00:41:09.000 know what, this this is a solid idea?

00:41:13.160 No, there's nothing like that.

00:41:16.020 Banning meat, giving everyone a house, you know, free education.

00:41:20.520 I mean, don't get me wrong.

00:41:21.200 I think that there are many progressives who believe these are, you know, this was pulled

00:41:25.580 back by by the authors because it was mocked, not because they don't believe these things

00:41:31.260 should happen.

00:41:32.000 So we have to remember that these are the goals.

00:41:34.340 And this is this is just authoritarianism.

00:41:36.660 I mean, it tells you how to live your life on every level.

00:41:38.900 It wouldn't be OK with me, even if we had if I thought a climate disaster was over the

00:41:43.340 horizon.

00:41:43.720 We have to we have to think about other things, including the economy, including our

00:41:47.840 rights, as you mentioned.

00:41:49.920 So, David, the real tell here is, to me, the nuclear power thing.

00:41:53.240 It's like if you are really concerned with the globe and the way it's warming, you're

00:41:58.580 going to want to embrace nuclear power if you're actually serious about it.

00:42:02.500 And you and they ban it in this bill.

00:42:04.000 Right.

00:42:04.160 And you leave in coal, apparently.

00:42:07.180 Right.

00:42:08.160 I guess they don't mention coal and I didn't think of that.

00:42:11.360 I would just say this, though, you're right about nuclear energy, but also we lead the

00:42:15.880 world in reducing carbon emissions over the last few years, mostly, I think, because of

00:42:20.260 fracking and natural gas.

00:42:22.260 Yes.

00:42:22.540 So if you eliminate that and you eliminate nuclear power, you're not really working towards

00:42:27.100 anything.

00:42:27.600 You just want an excuse to control the lives of people, because once you control all carbon,

00:42:32.640 you control all life, which I think this is just a power play sort of thing. 0.61

00:42:36.340 So how frightened are you that there are 70 co-sponsors of something that is truly ridiculous?

00:42:46.480 I'm actually pretty frightened.

00:42:47.680 I mean, I'm pretty frightened that all these Democratic candidates, leading ones, Kamala

00:42:53.520 Harris and others, immediately endorse this plan while the initial fact page was out there

00:43:01.500 with all this stuff.

00:43:02.260 They embraced it.

00:43:04.020 That should be scary.

00:43:05.000 Now, I don't think I'm not scared because I know it can't really happen, but I am scared

00:43:09.240 with what will do the economy trying to make things like this happen. 0.83

00:43:13.260 I think that should scare us.

00:43:15.460 Well, you say that it can't happen, but you listen to people who are not paying attention.

00:43:21.440 And David, honestly, if we went through another 2008 or worse, which I do believe is on the

00:43:28.820 horizon just because of Europe alone, this is the kind of thing that socialists say, hey,

00:43:37.840 we're going to take care of your housing, your housing.

00:43:40.340 We're going to take care of your car, your food, your guaranteed job.

00:43:44.140 And if there is a serious, serious, and I'm talking about a depression, this is the kind

00:43:49.460 of stuff people run towards.

00:43:51.980 Right.

00:43:52.400 I mean, 10 years ago, if I called a Democrat a socialist, they would feign indignation and

00:43:56.480 act like they had been insulted.

00:43:58.240 Today, most Democrats seem to think that that's a pretty swell idea.

00:44:01.960 So I think the debate has actually gotten a lot more honest, and this and other things

00:44:08.560 are just part, really, of the fight between people who believe in free markets and people

00:44:14.420 who believe in socialism.

00:44:15.800 And I do wonder, though, I just want to quickly say if people understand what they're supporting.

00:44:20.720 For instance, I saw a poll that said, you know, 72% of people want Medicare for all.

00:44:26.560 But when they explained to them what Medicare for all actually meant, it dropped to 36%.

00:44:30.820 What does that mean, Medicare for all?

00:44:33.660 What does that mean?

00:44:34.940 It means we're going to take away your private insurance and throw you into a government program

00:44:40.120 of insurance.

00:44:41.200 Socialized medicine is what it means.

00:44:43.940 But people don't want to lose their insurance.

00:44:45.940 They actually sort of like their insurance.

00:44:47.580 So once they hear about the specifics, they don't like it.

00:44:50.080 So if I want to be positive about the future, I say to myself, there are sort of these grand

00:44:54.180 plans people like in theory but might not like in reality.

00:44:57.920 And that's usually what socialism is actually about.

00:45:02.120 Well, unfortunately, it fools country after country after country.

00:45:06.800 Tell me what it – the idea of getting rid of grounding all planes.

00:45:14.080 Well, the plan is that we're going to have high-speed rail.

00:45:18.860 It's hard not to laugh when you talk about this stuff, but it's scary too.

00:45:22.400 But she claims that we're going to have high-speed rails and they'll work so well that we will

00:45:28.100 sort of crowd out any need for air travel or actually for cars as well in urban areas.

00:45:33.980 As you see in California, they have a high-speed rail that I think is $100 billion in debt

00:45:38.980 right now and doesn't really work yet.

00:45:40.760 So I'm not sure how we can envision that throughout the country.

00:45:45.720 Every city that I've ever lived in that talks about having a high-speed rail, it always

00:45:50.660 fails.

00:45:51.420 Always fails.

00:45:52.680 Always comes in overpriced.

00:45:54.000 Even just regular – out here in D.C.

00:45:56.500 they're trying to be able to expand the metro.

00:45:58.140 It takes literally 10 years.

00:46:00.780 You know, it's way over budget.

00:46:02.440 It's constantly the case.

00:46:04.340 People in America love their cars.

00:46:05.860 And moreover, in the middle of America – I lived in Denver, for instance, for many years.

00:46:09.080 You need your cars.

00:46:09.880 There's no way you can use a train to get around.

00:46:12.260 It's just a silly thing.

00:46:14.300 So is she talking about actual bans or some sort of a carbon tax that would discourage things

00:46:24.000 like planes?

00:46:24.920 Because it sounds like in 10 years we're just going to stop air travel.

00:46:29.060 We're going to stop cars.

00:46:31.080 Or is it a penalty if you want to use the car?

00:46:34.840 How do they envision this happening?

00:46:37.580 They don't get into specifics about how they would ban things.

00:46:41.340 And I don't think she uses the word ban on the planes.

00:46:43.820 But she does use some sort of language when it comes to cars in urban areas of having government 1.00

00:46:48.140 sort of explain to you how many cars you need or don't need and following through in that

00:46:53.480 way.

00:46:53.700 I can't say that she's put kind of the thought into this that would be nuts and baltsy. 0.99

00:47:00.480 You know what I mean?

00:47:00.820 We don't know how these things are supposed to be accomplished for the most part, only

00:47:04.000 that they should be.

00:47:05.240 There are aims and goals.

00:47:06.780 And occasionally she'll say – she uses euphemisms for ban.

00:47:11.280 You know, she doesn't say ban, but still –

00:47:13.880 So, David, did she write – who wrote this?

00:47:16.600 Who is the brain behind this?

00:47:18.060 I don't know that there is a brain behind it.

00:47:21.220 Well, you know what I mean.

00:47:22.340 Who is the – who's the head behind this?

00:47:25.200 Who wrote this and put this together?

00:47:27.240 I suspect there are – I don't know.

00:47:29.700 But I suspect there are a bunch of, you know, special interest, greenie types who helped 0.97

00:47:34.960 her write this thing.

00:47:36.100 I mean, it's just a grab bag of everything they want thrown in there.

00:47:40.020 So I suspect that's who wrote it.

00:47:41.700 I don't know for sure.

00:47:42.820 But, you know, politicians who endorse this thing should be held accountable for doing

00:47:47.000 so.

00:47:47.380 So I think that's important to note.

00:47:50.920 Where are we headed, David?

00:47:52.400 I was in the State of the Union.

00:47:54.220 I was actually in the room with them.

00:47:56.760 And there is now a growing Marxist community that is arrogant, is self-centered, and will

00:48:09.660 make you pay if you don't join them.

00:48:13.320 Yeah, it's bad.

00:48:13.960 I mean, I think they're authoritarians.

00:48:15.400 They're socialists.

00:48:16.220 Kamala Harris had her CNN – I think she's probably one of the frontrunners, or is the 0.96

00:48:21.100 frontrunner – and she had a CNN town hall where she just was bragging about how she 0.99

00:48:25.740 wanted to take everyone's insurance away from them, health insurance.

00:48:28.860 And it's a hugely important part of people's lives.

00:48:31.820 So I think we're headed to a pretty bad place.

00:48:34.820 I have to say, you know, I was not a fan of Donald Trump, and, you know, I generally

00:48:38.560 am not a fan of politicians.

00:48:39.700 But when he dropped a line about socialism in the State of the Union address, it made me

00:48:43.780 very proud of the president.

00:48:46.220 And I think it's an important battle to be won.

00:48:49.400 I think young people don't understand it because they never lived through the Cold War and they

00:48:52.880 don't know what it means.

00:48:54.940 You know, my own parents defected from a communist country.

00:48:57.440 I don't want anything like that for my kids.

00:48:59.360 And I think it's going to be a pretty ugly fight.

00:49:02.220 I will tell you this.

00:49:03.640 I thought when the president said, we will not be socialist, I just talked about this

00:49:08.020 yesterday in a monologue where what he was really saying is, I will protect and defend

00:49:13.140 the Constitution of the United States of America.

00:49:16.080 Anyone who's pushing for these kinds of things, this Green New Deal, they are in violation of

00:49:21.680 the oath they take in office.

00:49:23.500 You're not protecting and defending the Constitution.

00:49:27.900 The core of the Constitution is individual rights.

00:49:32.040 The core of socialism is collectivism.

00:49:33.920 They cannot work together.

00:49:36.440 And that's important.

00:49:37.780 I mean, I think it was P.J.

00:49:38.780 O'Rourke who said, who boiled down the Constitution to stay off my lawn and keep your hands to

00:49:43.460 yourself.

00:49:44.080 Right.

00:49:44.200 And neither of those things, socialists care about neither of those things.

00:49:48.380 So to me, they're authoritarians.

00:49:51.040 I don't care.

00:49:51.640 You know, there might not always be down to the definition socialists, but if they want

00:49:56.360 to control what you buy, what you eat, what you see, what you say, and all that stuff,

00:50:00.520 to me, they're just, you know, it's just tyranny.

00:50:02.360 I don't know to what level it's going to come here, but it's worth fighting against, I think.

00:50:07.020 David Harsany from TheFederalist.com.

00:50:09.480 Thank you for your help and your research, and we'll talk to you again.

00:50:14.200 We want to take you to another socialist country that was also very into the planet.

00:50:23.220 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:50:31.000 As you know, as a longtime listener of this program, world-renowned for our study and exposés

00:50:41.300 that we do on science.

00:50:43.020 We've won the, from the Academy of American Scientists and Scientific Stuff, three years

00:50:49.740 running now, have won the show of the year, 2001, 2007, and again last year.

00:50:57.080 And so now that we are looking at the Green New Deal, we want to get to the nuts and bolts 0.99

00:51:03.340 of it.

00:51:04.440 And that is, of course, what Ocasio-Cortez says they are not interested in, you know,

00:51:10.980 eliminating all cattle and cattle ranches and beef farms.

00:51:15.500 But we know that if you're going to address global warming, you have to take care of cow farts. 1.00

00:51:22.500 But if you're, again, a longtime listener to this program, you know that the problem is

00:51:26.020 not on the back end of the cow, but the front end of the cow. 0.94

00:51:28.980 And we have Sarah Place.

00:51:30.400 She's a senior director of sustainable beef production.

00:51:32.800 She's a researcher and an expert in upcycling in human nutrition and just, I would assume,

00:51:44.220 also, you know, knows something about cow farts.

00:51:47.640 Welcome to the program, Sarah.

00:51:49.080 How are you?

00:51:50.380 I'm great.

00:51:51.240 Thanks for having me, Glenn.

00:51:51.900 Good.

00:51:52.740 So let's talk seriously here for a minute about the people who are seriously trying to get

00:52:00.000 cattle ranches and cows eliminated from our diet entirely.

00:52:08.460 And they do it in the name of global warming.

00:52:12.760 Yeah, I think what, you know, we always try to emphasize to people is really cattle and

00:52:17.820 people that are cattle raisers are part of the climate change solution, not 0.99

00:52:21.560 a problem.

00:52:22.720 So as you mentioned, cow farts off the top, that definitely is fake news.

00:52:28.020 I can say before I was at National Cattlemen's, that was actually part of my research was measuring

00:52:33.240 methane from cattle.

00:52:34.240 So it does come out the front end of the animal, but it's overblown in terms of its contribution

00:52:40.480 to climate change, particularly in the United States.

00:52:44.080 Okay.

00:52:44.420 Okay.

00:52:44.680 So wait a minute.

00:52:45.200 So it is cow burps that is the actual, where the methane comes from.

00:52:53.340 And you say it's overblown how?

00:52:56.960 Yeah.

00:52:57.560 So I think it's important to just zoom out and look at the big picture context.

00:53:01.840 You know, the Environmental Protection Agency in the United States puts out a greenhouse gas

00:53:05.620 emission inventory every year.

00:53:07.520 And if you look at that, you know, methane from cows is about 1.8% of emissions in the

00:53:12.820 entire United States.

00:53:14.040 Well, wait, but nothing, but it's not huge.

00:53:17.280 But wait, I mean, the IPCC report, correct me if I'm wrong, Stu, because you know this

00:53:21.520 stuff inside.

00:53:22.140 Now, don't they say cattle, that is the number one cause of the problem for greenhouse gases?

00:53:29.460 Yeah.

00:53:29.660 Well, the entire, they say the entire meat industry, right?

00:53:32.860 Sarah, this is their claim that this is one of the biggest drivers of global climate change.

00:53:38.000 Yeah.

00:53:38.240 Yeah.

00:53:38.440 I'm glad you brought that up.

00:53:39.760 So there was a report that came out in like 2006 called Livestock's Long Shadow from the

00:53:44.540 UN Food and Agriculture Organization that looked at all livestock.

00:53:48.880 So you're right.

00:53:49.520 It would be all cattle, sheep, goats, poultry, everything.

00:53:53.840 And they claimed in that report that 18% of global emissions, so not US, but global emissions

00:53:59.540 came from livestock.

00:54:00.480 And that report also had a erroneous claim that that was a bigger portion than transportation.

00:54:08.380 The UNFAO has actually come out and said that was wrong, but that doesn't prevent it

00:54:13.660 from being repeated, you know, still 12 years, 13 years later, like it's fact.

00:54:19.880 What part of it do they say was wrong, that it was more than transportation, or that 18%

00:54:23.440 was wrong?

00:54:23.900 So kind of twofold.

00:54:26.900 So the first thing that was truly wrong was the comparison to transportation.

00:54:31.680 So essentially how they got that 18% number was they did what's called life cycle assessment.

00:54:37.680 So it's a bit into the weeds, but essentially you add up everything that gets emitted over

00:54:42.140 the entire life cycle of a process.

00:54:44.140 So we're going to talk about livestock, that would be everything that comes from feed production

00:54:48.160 to feed the livestock, all the way through to, you know, the slaughter of the animals.

00:54:53.320 And what was really key in that report was the biggest chunk of that 18%, a third of it,

00:54:59.760 was what we call land use change.

00:55:01.540 So specifically things like deforestation down in Brazil, which is, of course, again,

00:55:06.760 another pressing issue, but we don't have a deforestation problem here in the United States.

00:55:10.960 So that was really one of the key problems was they added in everything for livestock.

00:55:15.680 And then when they compared it to transportation, they just looked at tailpipe, you know, or

00:55:20.320 emissions directly from vehicles, right?

00:55:23.360 They didn't add in all the emissions that go into building vehicles, that go into maintaining

00:55:28.120 all of our transportation infrastructure from roads to airports, et cetera, et cetera.

00:55:34.620 So hopefully that makes sense.

00:55:36.060 It was kind of an apples to oranges comparison.

00:55:38.820 We're talking to Dr. Sarah Place, and she is the Senior Director for Sustainable Beef Production

00:55:46.300 and a researcher.

00:55:48.360 And I am a rancher myself.

00:55:50.720 I have, well, this time of year, I think I now have about 100 head, so it's not a lot.

00:55:56.480 But our animals are grazing on natural grass.

00:56:03.700 And, you know, we're trying to do, you know, right by the animal, right by the planet.

00:56:10.780 Everybody I know who's a rancher or a farmer, they are more concerned about the environment

00:56:16.260 than any environmentalist because their living is made on making sure that that soil and those

00:56:23.220 animals are taken care of and are protected.

00:56:27.580 Are you concerned at all about this new hybrid beef product that is coming out as people 1.00

00:56:38.180 are saying that that's going to be much better for you?

00:56:42.760 Yeah.

00:56:43.280 So are you talking about some of these so-called plant-based products and the cell-cultured stuff?

00:56:48.600 Yeah.

00:56:48.820 Is that what you're talking about?

00:56:49.520 Yeah.

00:56:50.580 Yeah.

00:56:51.020 So I think a lot of things in this space are just, there's a lot of media hype relative

00:56:56.680 to, like, what actually happens on the ground.

00:56:59.060 So as you just pointed out, I mean, you're the same as all the other ranchers across America,

00:57:04.800 and there's over 700,000 cattle producers in this country.

00:57:09.120 It's the single largest segment of American agriculture.

00:57:12.560 So people, the reality is, is people are dedicated to doing the right thing, as you said.

00:57:18.880 And in terms of those products, you know, again, it is a lot of hype in terms of their sales.

00:57:23.760 They're fairly small in the grand scheme of things.

00:57:27.700 And, of course, the cell-cultured products don't actually even exist yet.

00:57:31.640 You know, there's just a lot of media coverage about them coming out at some point, but they're

00:57:35.580 still not commercially available.

00:57:37.040 I think our biggest challenge is just this real big chasm we have in terms of understanding

00:57:44.180 between the normal consuming public that's disconnected from agriculture by a few generations

00:57:50.080 and some of this marketing that is surrounding some of these products, because they're trying

00:57:55.060 to use some of the misinformation that's out there to their advantage, especially with

00:57:59.220 regard to environmental impacts of cattle production.

00:58:02.040 I have to tell you, Sarah, there is nothing more healthy for a family than to go and spend

00:58:11.000 a summer on a farm.

00:58:12.400 And I mean this sincerely.

00:58:14.200 Something happened to us when we moved away from the farm.

00:58:17.300 You learn so many things.

00:58:19.380 You learn about sex.

00:58:21.440 You learn about life and death.

00:58:24.500 As my kids and I went out to go capture a sheep that was lost from the flock, and we had 0.96

00:58:32.480 to go out and we spent about an hour chasing this darn thing, because we're city slickers. 0.68

00:58:39.820 We, you know, we talked about scriptures. 0.95

00:58:42.700 You learn everything about the circle of life and how to take care of the planet.

00:58:47.600 There is something to be said that as we lose these things in an agrarian culture, as we

00:58:54.920 have lost them, it's one of the sources for losing our way on so many things, because there

00:59:01.440 is what you read about is not what life on the farm or life on a ranch is actually like.

00:59:09.000 It's just not.

00:59:09.680 Yeah, I think you're 100% right on that.

00:59:13.540 I mean, in the last 100 years, we've gone to, you know, from a majority population in

00:59:18.600 rural areas and in agriculture to now it's, you know, less than 15% of the U.S. population

00:59:24.140 is in rural areas.

00:59:25.680 So that is just the reality.

00:59:27.960 And it's sometimes, like you point out, some of these basic things, you know, cycle of life

00:59:33.000 that have been lost, that connection has been lost for people.

00:59:37.080 And that, you know, what you mentioned earlier, the upcycling, I mean, that's really our way

00:59:41.460 to try to drive that home to people is highlighting.

00:59:43.820 What is upcycling?

00:59:44.720 What is upcycling?

00:59:45.900 Yeah, so everybody's heard of recycling, right?

00:59:47.960 Essentially taking one thing and making something of equivalent value.

00:59:51.100 Upcycling is taking something of little or no value to people and making a higher value

00:59:56.040 product.

00:59:56.860 And again, when we think about beef production, cattle production, that's exactly what's happening,

01:00:01.840 right?

01:00:02.020 I mean, cattle are eating plants that we can't eat and they're using lands that we

01:00:06.900 can't use for crops otherwise.

01:00:09.620 And they're making this super nutrient-rich food for us.

01:00:13.360 And so, again, it's just using a different word to kind of try to drive home to people

01:00:17.200 the basics that, again, if you are on a ranch or you are connected with agriculture, some

01:00:23.160 of this seems like a no-brainer.

01:00:24.660 But because people are removed a few generations, you know, we do have to kind of explain the basics

01:00:29.620 against people.

01:00:30.320 So, Sarah, it's great talking to you.

01:00:32.720 Thank you so much.

01:00:33.420 Dr. Sarah Place, you can find her and follow her at DRS Place.

01:00:40.820 Dr. Sarah Place, thank you so much.

01:00:43.260 I appreciate your time.

01:00:45.420 The entire agricultural community is uncomfortable with you calling yourself a rancher.

01:00:49.900 No, I apologize to all ranchers.

01:00:52.860 Thank you.

01:00:54.000 No, I'm a guy who pretends to be a rancher.

01:00:57.900 Right.

01:00:58.160 You go on vacation ranching.

01:00:59.380 I do.

01:00:59.800 I go and I do want to go.

01:01:03.460 I would move there in a heartbeat.

01:01:05.060 You're essentially City Slickers, the movie.

01:01:07.000 That's essentially what you are.

01:01:08.380 You're a city guy.

01:01:09.260 I wouldn't say that all the family is, but I certainly am.

01:01:11.980 Yeah.

01:01:12.440 And you show up.

01:01:12.680 I'm like, you know what?

01:01:13.400 We need some horses.

01:01:14.940 Why do we need horses?

01:01:15.880 Because we want to go?

01:01:16.660 No, because they would look good right over there.

01:01:18.580 Wouldn't that be really?

01:01:19.440 It would be so picturesque.

01:01:21.000 All right.

01:01:23.260 Anyway, I apologize to everyone in my 500-person town in Idaho for embarrassing you on so many levels.

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