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00:00:00.000 Hello, America. Boy, there's lots to hate today. Lots to hate. LeBron James is at the top of the

00:00:07.260 list. Last part of the podcast, but top of the list. We tell you about the Ukraine special that

00:00:13.320 is coming up. We give you some things that we found yesterday that I think are just stunning,

00:00:18.340 just stunning. Also, we talked about the seven-year-old in Dallas that mom says he's a she.

00:00:25.600 And the judge says, yep, mom can change his sex, which effectively castrates this kid. 0.87

00:00:34.200 Dad says no. We talked about that, setting it up for tomorrow. Dad will be with us. You don't want

00:00:40.420 to miss that podcast. We talk about the 1919 Black Sox World Series. It's the anniversary.

00:00:47.820 Michael Knowles is on with us. We also found out that a Clinton advisor said,

00:00:54.080 about Hillary Clinton, possibly running. And then, the hatred of LeBron James.

00:01:09.620 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:13.720 All right, I'm going to give you an update on what the media is talking about

00:01:22.140 on the impeachment. And let's just get this straight. I think impeachment is going to happen.

00:01:29.260 They're going to impeach. The House will impeach the president. And then it will be up to

00:01:34.440 the Senate to decide whether they run a trial. And if they run a trial, then they'll have to decide 0.93

00:01:40.560 whether they remove him from office or not. But they are hell-bent on impeachment.

00:01:46.860 Now, this week, the highest-ranking U.S. diplomat in Ukraine, the acting ambassador,

00:01:53.700 William Taylor, he testified to the House impeachment inquiry.

00:01:58.220 And it wasn't good for President Trump, we think. Remember, these are secret hearings.

00:02:04.520 Taylor's testimony was everything the Democrats wanted to hear.

00:02:07.800 He stated that the face-to-face meeting between Trump and Zelensky was being dangled like a carrot

00:02:14.820 in exchange for a public announcement, public announcement, that Ukraine was investigating

00:02:19.540 Joe Biden. He also stated that the military aid was being dangled for the same thing,

00:02:25.880 quid pro quo. Had everything to do with the conversations between the U.S. and Ukrainian

00:02:30.900 president. This is at least as alleged by Bill Taylor.

00:02:35.660 The quid was a face-to-face meeting between Trump and Zelensky and the military assistants.

00:02:45.840 The quo was a public announcement from Zelensky that he was ordering an investigation into Joe

00:02:54.060 and Hunter Biden and their relationship with Burisma. So where's the problem?

00:03:00.680 Well, if it is true, it's a big problem for President Trump, but there are some pretty big holes in it.

00:03:07.640 For one, several claims by the acting ambassador were based off second-hand conversations.

00:03:15.060 And we've all been privy, you know, to this testimony.

00:03:19.480 Well, no, actually just a leaked copy of the opening statement, not the testimony.

00:03:24.960 We haven't been given a transcript for the question-and-answer portion.

00:03:30.640 Minority leader Kevin McCarthy hinted yesterday that there was one key moment where Taylor's most damaging claim

00:03:38.840 was completely destroyed by Representative Ratcliffe from Texas.

00:03:43.920 But the Democrats won't release any of that.

00:03:47.020 This is why they're storming, quote-unquote, storming the skiff yesterday.

00:03:51.880 Can we first stop using the word storming if you've seen they walked into it?

00:04:00.220 Storming.

00:04:01.480 There's also another big hole here.

00:04:04.000 The quid, the face-to-face meeting and the military aid was granted by the president without the quo.

00:04:14.060 Trump met Zelensky face-to-face and the military aid was given to Ukraine.

00:04:18.560 But there was never any announcement of anything Hunter Biden, you know, and Joe Biden investigations.

00:04:25.700 Zelensky never made the public statement about the investigation.

00:04:30.780 So can there be a quid without the quo?

00:04:35.580 Don't you just want to say to these people, shut up?

00:04:38.120 All we're getting now is the worst of the worst.

00:04:42.800 Everything that helps make the Democrats' case is getting leaked.

00:04:46.580 All of the other context is going to stay behind closed doors.

00:04:51.820 Well, we want you to know that we are looking into the full context of what's happening in Ukraine.

00:04:56.940 And you can't understand the Democrats' current case against Trump without also knowing what the left has been doing in Ukraine.

00:05:07.260 So, next Wednesday, we are going to have a special again.

00:05:15.200 It's part two of our Ukrainian special.

00:05:18.640 And this one is to go through all of the things that the Democrats are now saying out.

00:05:26.440 You need to understand their case.

00:05:28.820 And so, all of the things that Democrats are saying and how the media is shaping the narrative, we have found some incredible things about the media.

00:05:42.340 It's grotesque on what they're doing right now.

00:05:46.480 But you need to understand all of that.

00:05:48.880 Now, our first chalkboard went up yesterday at glennbeck.com.

00:05:53.520 It's an interactive chalkboard.

00:05:55.200 So, you can go on the chalkboard and you can click on any of these things.

00:05:59.780 And it will take you to what that is and all of the documentation.

00:06:05.000 And I'm telling you, there are parts that I only had read certain parts of the documentation.

00:06:13.040 And I went back in and I reread.

00:06:15.940 And I read the whole, you know, transcript of the trial or whatever it was.

00:06:21.340 And I'm telling you, it will blow your mind.

00:06:23.740 It is the thing that you really, it's a resource that is free and you really need.

00:06:30.320 If you want to, I want to say something counterintuitive.

00:06:38.700 If you want to save the country and not necessarily save the Democrats or save the Republicans, you must know this story.

00:06:50.880 If you want to just save Donald Trump, you just need half of the story.

00:06:57.780 You want to save just the Democrats, you need half of the story.

00:07:00.900 You want to save the country, you need the whole story.

00:07:03.640 And as far as I know, we're the only ones doing it.

00:07:08.900 And we are being really responsible.

00:07:12.260 We are doing everything we can to vet, to double check, to triple check, to make sure we don't have anything without the original documents or without the actual voices, video, or official transcripts.

00:07:27.640 Now, with this being said, that is next Wednesday.

00:07:34.900 As we were looking into this, and as we were going through some stuff, some old names started to appear.

00:07:42.440 And yesterday, we started going through some old boxes from Fox and old files that we had done.

00:07:53.520 And we were working on about 2010, probably 2009, 2010.

00:07:59.920 And there were a few chalkboards about a theory of something that wasn't my theory.

00:08:06.120 It was an Obama theory.

00:08:07.820 And it was his counsel, and it was Hillary Clinton.

00:08:12.100 And we did some shows on this, and we showed you how they were trying to be the Fabian Socialists.

00:08:23.660 I know if you're a new listener of the program, I might be speaking Greek to you.

00:08:28.200 If you're a longtime listener, you know what the Fabian Socialists are.

00:08:31.420 Fabian Socialists are the think tank, if you will, that caused World War I. 0.98

00:08:40.100 They believe in heating up the world, causing chaos, so they can change it and beat the world into a shape that is closer to their heart's desire.

00:08:53.260 And their logo is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

00:08:58.020 It's crazy.

00:08:58.760 And you have all these prime ministers and all these presidents and everything else that have all taken pictures and photos in front of the famous Fabian Socialist window.

00:09:09.940 When we started looking into this years ago, I thought we had exposed it.

00:09:16.620 And I thought that we had, I had no idea that it was, that it just kept going.

00:09:23.260 I don't know how, might have happened in the transition.

00:09:25.700 I don't know how we lost this, but we've been looking at this piece for a while.

00:09:29.840 In fact, our chief researcher had been looking into this.

00:09:33.160 Jason had been doing something, because we had a conversation about, what, seven years ago, eight years ago?

00:09:38.340 Yeah.

00:09:39.180 And I don't remember, do you remember what that conversation was that, do you want to say or not?

00:09:44.700 We don't want to tip our hand yet.

00:09:46.080 Okay, so we had a conversation, and he was intrigued by it, and he started doing research.

00:09:53.280 But he didn't think it connected to anything.

00:09:56.700 And so when I gave him a name yesterday, and I said, look at this video, will you?

00:10:03.560 And I said, it's this person.

00:10:05.800 And he, I left, and he sat at his desk for a while and went, I remember that name.

00:10:10.780 I don't know why.

00:10:11.560 I was irritated, because I was like, we were almost done writing for the special next week.

00:10:15.780 And I was like, not another name.

00:10:17.460 But I was like, wait a minute.

00:10:18.700 So I just plugged it into our little, my little computer search finder thing from all of the stuff I've researched.

00:10:23.620 And it popped up.

00:10:25.140 And then it referred back to that conversation that we had, you know, back several years ago.

00:10:29.780 Which referred, Stu, back to things that we were exposing at Fox.

00:10:33.280 So we are going to do the special next week that you really have to watch, because you have to understand how it all ties together.

00:10:45.420 You have to understand.

00:10:46.980 If you just focus on the phone call and quid pro quo, it excuses the corruption that was happening in Ukraine that we went over in the first special.

00:10:59.700 And that is grotesque, but it is nothing, nothing like what we are going to expose on the third special, which is coming in the next probably month.

00:11:12.740 The trail of this is absolutely insane.

00:11:15.200 Ukraine is just a small cog in this entire machine. 0.99

00:11:19.220 I mean, you're going to be blown away when you see the literal trail of blood and destruction that started probably around 2009, all the way up until, well, really all the way up until today.

00:11:32.700 So we're still looking into it.

00:11:34.100 But I believe that you're still seeing these things actively being done.

00:11:37.580 Things like Ukraine right now.

00:11:39.360 I think, and I don't, this is my gut.

00:11:42.000 My gut says that 40 to 50% of the turmoil, and it may be higher, the turmoil that you see on the streets, you know, with revolutions and people on the streets protesting and all the conflict, 40 to 50% of that, my gut says, is all a show.

00:12:04.860 It's all people being used by the U.S. State Department, and they have no idea.

00:12:12.000 I will tell you that I've seen a lot of things that have given me pause and given me, oh, really?

00:12:21.880 We're doing this?

00:12:24.380 This is the most, I'm going to be careful, and I think this is the most evil thing I've ever seen our government do.

00:12:39.700 Pretty broad statement there.

00:12:42.000 How close do you think that is to what you feel, Jason?

00:12:47.260 It's definitely diabolical, and it's, I mean, if people, what's happening to the world right now, what's happening, it is coordinated by our government and deep state.

00:13:01.540 It is out in the open, but nobody will talk about it.

00:13:08.800 There's no way that Donald Trump, I don't even know if Donald Trump really understands this or anybody in his administration understands this, but this is the new way of operating for the United States of America, and it was done by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

00:13:26.280 And it is the deep state.

00:13:29.540 It is operating without the president.

00:13:32.480 It is just operating.

00:13:33.780 Yeah, and it's interesting how involved career diplomats are in on this.

00:13:40.880 I've already seen evidence that career diplomats, people in the State Department, in some of these other countries are still fulfilling this policy.

00:13:48.780 No, this is United States policy now, at least with the State Department.

00:13:54.100 And so we're going to be exposing that, but please, please tell your friends, and please stay in touch with this, because there's a lot of information coming your way, and you're going to need to understand it, and we will take you through it.

00:14:10.540 It begins next week, next Wednesday.

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00:14:49.340 Dave Isay is with us now.

00:14:51.640 Dave is the founder and president of StoryCorps, and we're having a hard time finding love in our hearts today, Dave.

00:15:00.920 We really are.

00:15:01.760 So we're counting on you to bring us back to unity and peace and loving everyone.

00:15:10.000 Hi, Glenn.

00:15:10.920 Hi.

00:15:11.680 I'll try.

00:15:12.440 Okay.

00:15:12.880 I'll try.

00:15:13.440 It's a tough job today.

00:15:14.820 Yeah, it's a tough job.

00:15:16.420 All right.

00:15:16.740 The story that I chose, it's always great to be on, and thanks.

00:15:22.740 And hopefully, just the idea of what we're doing with StoryCorps will give people a little bit of hope, and that's what StoryCorps is all about.

00:15:30.800 You know, we go all over the country, and we give families the chance to talk to each other.

00:15:35.260 It's two people.

00:15:36.020 It's you and your kid, you and your grandmother.

00:15:38.360 And you sit for 40 minutes and talk about whatever you want to talk about.

00:15:43.620 Most people think of it as if I had 40 minutes left to live, what would I say to this person who means so much to me?

00:15:48.860 People ask the big life questions.

00:15:51.140 And you keep a copy, and another copy goes to the Library of Congress so your great, great, great, great, great grandkids can get to know your grandmother.

00:15:57.520 I just love this.

00:15:58.380 I wish I could have done this with my grandfather, my grandmother.

00:16:01.560 I just think this is the greatest thing.

00:16:03.820 Well, one of the things you can do is, while you can, is remember them.

00:16:08.860 Because even that, even just your memories of the stories of your grandparents is just so valuable for your, you know, future generations.

00:16:16.180 And it also, you know, sitting with someone and listening to them just reminds them that they matter and they won't be forgotten.

00:16:23.560 And essentially, what we're doing is kind of collecting the wisdom of humanity.

00:16:26.480 I didn't bring with me a heartbreaking story today.

00:16:29.500 A lot of them are sad.

00:16:31.660 This is more, this is a story about technical innovation circa 1940.

00:16:39.260 Okay, technical innovation circa 1940.

00:16:42.740 And this is Betty Jenkins?

00:16:44.100 Yes, she's 94 years old.

00:16:46.920 And she came to StoryCorps with her niece in Ohio.

00:16:50.200 And during the interviews, you remembered a newfangled device she had gotten from her mom, an inflatable bra.

00:16:57.220 Here's the story.

00:16:59.520 I was very skinny, and I didn't have any curves.

00:17:03.520 I guess my mother got kind of worried because she didn't think I had enough boyfriends.

00:17:10.340 So she bought me a bra that you blow up. 1.00

00:17:14.100 I was real excited.

00:17:16.700 So I blew and blew to about 32.

00:17:20.940 I was quite happy with the looks.

00:17:23.680 I got a few wolf whistles.

00:17:26.720 Of course, at that age, you were very self-conscious.

00:17:31.300 That year, I took a trip to South America.

00:17:34.680 I proceeded to fly to Santiago.

00:17:38.420 Soon we were into the Andes Mountains, and it turned out that it was a non-pressurized plane, and I felt very uncomfortable.

00:17:51.980 Things were getting very tight.

00:17:54.220 And this bra had started to increase in size. 0.98

00:18:00.600 As the thing got bigger, I tried to stand up, and I couldn't see my feet.

00:18:07.180 The direction said it would go to 48 if I wanted to.

00:18:12.700 I thought, what will happen if it goes beyond 48?

00:18:17.640 And I found out what happened.

00:18:20.940 It blew out.

00:18:21.980 It was a loud, resounding sound, and the co-pilot came into the cabin with the gun, wondering what had happened.

00:18:35.440 The men all pointed to me.

00:18:38.040 Well, it's difficult to explain to people in English that part of your anatomy just blew up to try and do it in Spanish.

00:18:50.320 It's beyond hope.

00:18:53.400 So they made a landing.

00:18:55.600 I was taken off the plane and turned over to two women police, and they told me to strip hunting for what they thought was the bomb.

00:19:06.540 And when I stripped down, I showed them the hole in the bra, and they chuckled.

00:19:15.440 And I thought, oh, my, they've gotten the point.

00:19:19.260 And I was allowed back on the plane.

00:19:23.180 A month later, I got a bill from the airline for $400 for an unscheduled stop.

00:19:31.940 Do you know, Dave, did her, do you say she came in with her granddaughter?

00:19:40.100 Yeah.

00:19:41.220 Was this story, was that a first telling for this granddaughter?

00:19:47.180 I don't know.

00:19:47.840 It may well have been, but it's certainly a telling for the ages.

00:19:51.160 That is so great.

00:19:52.600 That is so great.

00:19:53.940 And the bra, I assume, was not part of the family treasure that she passed on.

00:20:00.420 We'll never know.

00:20:01.480 We'll never know.

00:20:03.200 So, Dave, where are you where our listeners can go?

00:20:08.360 Well, we're all over the country, and people can go to storycore.org to find out more.

00:20:13.600 One thing I wanted to just bring up today, if we have a minute, is that every Thanksgiving, we have something called the Great Thanksgiving Listen,

00:20:21.040 where we ask people, we have an app now that makes it possible to record a story, course story, anytime, anyplace with a loved one, honor them by listening to them,

00:20:29.820 and with one tap, upload it to the Library of Congress.

00:20:32.480 And teachers across the country over Thanksgiving assign their students, mostly high school students, to interview an elder and honor them.

00:20:40.920 And we hope that you will call your schools where your kids are and ask them to participate, or even not.

00:20:47.760 Just talk to your kids, talk to your grandkids, ask them to download the app and participate with us over Thanksgiving.

00:20:53.740 You can find out about it at storycore.org or the Great Thanksgiving Listen.

00:20:57.660 So do you do this every – wait, do you do this every Thanksgiving?

00:21:02.540 Indeed.

00:21:03.200 And I'll tell one story about the first Thanksgiving.

00:21:05.780 You know, in many ways, StoryCorps is really kind of collecting the wisdom of humanity because of the nature of what's talked about in the booth and on the app.

00:21:16.080 And on the first Thanksgiving, we had just launched the app.

00:21:20.080 This was three or four years ago.

00:21:22.020 And we went around and we told people about the Great Thanksgiving Listen and we hoped people would participate and got a lot of media.

00:21:31.080 And we found on the Thursday of Thanksgiving that basically nobody was participating.

00:21:35.680 It was the same as we always saw, a steady state of the recordings on the app.

00:21:39.960 And on Friday, no one had uploaded.

00:21:42.820 None of the students had participated.

00:21:44.580 Saturday, I had to go on and do interviews saying, you know, we were not giving up.

00:21:50.280 It didn't work this year.

00:21:51.940 But this is too important, this active listening.

00:21:55.640 We're going to keep trying.

00:21:56.560 And then on Sunday, we had completely given up.

00:21:59.640 And someone in my office said, you better look at what's happening on the app.

00:22:02.740 And there were thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of interviews being uploaded.

00:22:08.200 Now, I'm an old dad.

00:22:09.260 So it hadn't occurred to me that wisdom that kids wait until Sunday night to do their homework.

00:22:14.100 But I will never forget that again.

00:22:16.080 So on Sunday night, we got as many interviews that Sunday night as we had in the first 10 years of Storytour combined.

00:22:22.940 So we hope that people will be a part of this.

00:22:26.120 And again, you know, you started.

00:22:27.380 It is things really stink right now.

00:22:29.880 They really stink.

00:22:31.440 But look to your families. 0.98

00:22:33.240 Remember the basic goodness of who we are as people.

00:22:36.220 Think the best of people.

00:22:37.480 Remember that none of us are the worst things we've ever done.

00:22:40.760 And, you know, go to a loved one and say, who are you?

00:22:43.100 What have you learned in life?

00:22:44.120 How do you want to be remembered?

00:22:45.880 And it'll just shake you on the shoulder and clear the nonsense and remind you how lucky we are to be alive.

00:22:52.080 Dave, thank you.

00:22:52.900 It's storycore.org, storycore.org.

00:22:55.600 You know, we're right around Thanksgiving.

00:22:57.440 Would you come back on the week before Thanksgiving and maybe bring some, you know, bring something that you found from past Thanksgivings?

00:23:04.500 I'd be honored.

00:23:05.240 Yeah, that'd be great.

00:23:05.900 You got it.

00:23:07.100 Thank you very much.

00:23:07.860 Dave, I say, from storycore.org.

00:23:10.640 Hang on.

00:23:11.660 Who do we have on the phone?

00:23:14.180 Hello?

00:23:14.940 Hello?

00:23:15.780 Am I on the radio in the waves?

00:23:18.000 Yes, you are.

00:23:19.460 My name is Wilfred.

00:23:20.840 I'm calling from Sud City, Florida.

00:23:22.940 Well, how are things, Wilfred?

00:23:24.560 Very good.

00:23:25.400 I heard the story from the young lady who was on moments ago.

00:23:32.240 She was in 94.

00:23:33.400 Do you have her telephone number?

00:23:36.480 No, I don't think she's...

00:23:38.220 She sounds very hot.

00:23:41.160 I was listening to that story.

00:23:43.240 I nearly spit out my Ovaltine.

00:23:44.920 Really?

00:23:45.500 Really?

00:23:46.120 Yeah.

00:23:46.440 Yes.

00:23:46.780 She got me going.

00:23:49.580 You know, she revved my engines a little bit.

00:23:52.400 Right.

00:23:52.880 She raised my body temperature.

00:23:54.560 Right, okay.

00:23:55.180 So much that I had to lower the heat of my room to 86.

00:23:59.100 Really?

00:23:59.800 Yes.

00:24:00.280 Wow, you're that hot.

00:24:01.300 Yes.

00:24:01.760 And by the way, I should point out that I also have a pump attached to my body to inflate.

00:24:06.780 I don't think I...

00:24:07.700 And you do not want to go over the maximum capacity.

00:24:10.880 Right, okay.

00:24:11.540 You think it would be a good idea and things start, wow, whoa.

00:24:16.200 This has happened to you?

00:24:17.320 Oh my goodness.

00:24:18.320 By accident?

00:24:19.020 Yes, Mildred down the hall knows the whole thing. 0.98

00:24:21.300 Right.

00:24:21.880 Poor Mildred. 1.00

00:24:22.820 All right.

00:24:23.480 And she... 1.00

00:24:23.980 What happened to Mildred? 1.00

00:24:27.320 I don't think you want me to get into what happened to Mildred.

00:24:31.840 I will say, police visited and believed there was an assault of some sort.

00:24:36.760 But it wasn't.

00:24:37.540 She put no.

00:24:38.260 No.

00:24:39.120 She was into it, and I'll say, she was back next Tuesday.

00:24:45.200 She was back with some mucilics, and we went back to town.

00:24:50.320 Okay.

00:24:50.980 Thank you very much, Wilford.

00:24:52.700 Thank you.

00:24:52.800 Thank you for calling.

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00:25:31.320 Our next guest is someone you love.

00:25:33.620 One of your favorite guests.

00:25:36.020 David Petruzza.

00:25:37.680 And he's one of your favorite historians.

00:25:39.000 He tells history in ways that...

00:25:42.680 You don't ever bring history, so it's got to be something about the World Series.

00:25:48.560 Maybe a little bit.

00:25:50.980 David is on with us.

00:25:52.220 And David, he's got a new book, by the way, called...

00:25:55.540 Let's see where it's the...

00:25:57.560 What's that?

00:26:00.940 Oh, yeah.

00:26:01.360 Oh, sorry.

00:26:01.840 I know he's been writing about this quite a bit.

00:26:04.600 It's the 100th anniversary, I guess, is the big reason.

00:26:06.520 1919 was the Black Sox scandal.

00:26:09.560 Okay.

00:26:10.340 And you, of course, know all about that.

00:26:12.860 Absolutely.

00:26:13.480 All right.

00:26:14.620 Of course.

00:26:15.260 I know they cheated.

00:26:16.160 They cheated, right?

00:26:16.780 There was a big gambling scandal.

00:26:18.120 Yeah.

00:26:18.220 And David's been telling this history.

00:26:20.100 And I find it fascinating because...

00:26:22.660 And David, I don't know if you're going to be able to get Glenn into this.

00:26:26.120 It's history, which he loves, and he loves you, but then it's also sports, which he has no interest in.

00:26:31.480 So you have to come up with a way to make this interesting to Glenn.

00:26:34.900 All right.

00:26:35.300 I think I know how to do that.

00:26:36.840 All right.

00:26:37.320 Go ahead.

00:26:37.760 This is a challenge.

00:26:38.760 The established narrative, which has been going on for 100 years, is that the Red... 0.85

00:26:45.620 Or the White Sox, the Black Sox, did this because they were exploited by management.

00:26:52.460 You know, they were underpaid, they were cheated on bonuses, they weren't even washing their uniforms, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:27:02.640 And this was established largely.

00:27:04.980 It was been percolating for a long time.

00:27:07.760 But the established narrative is a book called Eight Men Out.

00:27:10.940 It became a movie called Eight Men Out.

00:27:13.320 And then it got transported into a more popular movie called Field of Dreams.

00:27:18.140 Right.

00:27:18.620 I saw that one.

00:27:20.000 Right.

00:27:20.440 And the guy...

00:27:21.860 You don't have me yet, but...

00:27:22.800 I remember, hoo-hoo-hoo, Joe Jackson, okay.

00:27:27.160 And it's the usual sob story from the left.

00:27:32.020 And it's all a lie.

00:27:34.440 It's all false.

00:27:35.940 The guy who wrote that book, Elliot Asanoff, was very left-wing.

00:27:41.520 He was blacklisted in the 50s.

00:27:43.660 So he was coming at this story from a left-wing, stick it to the man.

00:27:48.840 These guys did it to get, you know, retributive justice.

00:27:52.740 They were direct action.

00:27:55.000 And so it was all somewhat justified.

00:27:58.560 And what we have found out in the last 20 years, because Major League Baseball did a data dump and put all the salary data down and all this stuff, which was just sort of hidden or forgotten forever.

00:28:10.900 And that not only weren't the White Sox that team underpaid, the season started, they were the third highest paid team in the league.

00:28:20.020 And when it ended, they were the highest paid team in the league.

00:28:23.600 And many of these guys, including the crooked guys, were among the highest paid players in the American League.

00:28:30.320 So all fake.

00:28:31.620 Okay, so you have me, but you lost me on one detail.

00:28:36.660 Sure.

00:28:40.280 Were the White Sox and the Black Sox the same team?

00:28:46.960 Did they only call them the Black Sox?

00:28:49.360 They were actually the White Sox, but they were only called the Black Sox after that scandal for that year?

00:28:56.340 Yes.

00:28:56.820 Wow, that is a fascinating fact.

00:29:00.380 I didn't know.

00:29:01.720 Wow.

00:29:02.240 That's great.

00:29:03.580 Well, I was actually asked by another conservative yesterday morning, do the White Sox still exist?

00:29:10.120 Yes.

00:29:12.760 So you're not too far behind it.

00:29:15.100 Right.

00:29:15.440 I will say, looking at the season, they barely exist.

00:29:17.820 But yes, they do still exist.

00:29:19.420 David, you had me when it's all wrong.

00:29:21.920 So much of our history is just complete nonsense and written by people with an agenda.

00:29:31.360 And it filters into sports.

00:29:33.980 Pardon me?

00:29:35.120 It filters into sports, every aspect of our society.

00:29:39.500 So, David, how bad was this scandal in the press at the time?

00:29:45.400 I mean, can you compare it to anything today?

00:29:49.000 Well, it was very big.

00:29:52.080 The most recent thing to compare it to was the steroid scandal.

00:29:56.000 But at that time, baseball was invariably called a clean sport to differentiate itself from boxing and horse racing, you know, where fixes were obviously going on.

00:30:07.540 And F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote about Arnold Rothstein, the gambler behind it, as a man who destroyed the faith of 50 million people.

00:30:18.300 This was, you know, the saying you've probably heard, or maybe not, say it ain't so, Joe.

00:30:23.760 Yeah, I know that.

00:30:25.220 Yeah.

00:30:25.640 All that comes from this.

00:30:26.720 That comes from that, where a little boy supposedly outside the grand jury, shoeless Joe Jackson, he was in Field of Dreams, comes out, he's confessed, and the little boy says, say it ain't so, Joe, like in some movie.

00:30:41.440 And I think the bulk of the American people felt like that, that this was not supposed to happen.

00:30:47.940 Baseball was clean, and, you know, baseball mom and apple pie.

00:30:52.100 So, and it was happening also at a time after World War II.

00:30:56.420 It happened during the Wilson administration.

00:30:59.420 Okay.

00:31:00.400 Yeah.

00:31:01.440 1919 is a good year for you and me.

00:31:04.760 Yeah.

00:31:05.200 Yeah.

00:31:05.620 Yeah.

00:31:06.540 Okay.

00:31:06.980 So, so what, what's America coming to?

00:31:11.120 So the, how long did it take to recover?

00:31:17.240 Pretty soon.

00:31:18.160 Well, for one thing, when your team is in first place, you forget all the sea and sins of your sport.

00:31:23.540 Okay.

00:31:24.220 So the pennant race kicks in.

00:31:26.680 But what really happens is a judge called Kennesaw Mountain Landis had been a progressive.

00:31:33.420 He had fined Standard Oil, like $26 million in 1907.

00:31:38.100 He prosecuted the anti-war people, or was the judge in the trials of people who were against the war.

00:31:45.380 He comes out after, you know, the, the White Sox, Black Sox guys, the crooked players are acquitted by a jury in Chicago.

00:31:54.420 And, but, but Landis, who was a federal judge in Chicago, issues a statement that says no player who endeavors to fix a game, throw a game, sits with, with players and discusses this, or with gamblers, or who does not inform his club about what's going on, will never play baseball again.

00:32:16.240 And that really shuts the scandals down.

00:32:19.040 And the most important part of that is that you have to inform on your other players if you hear something is going on.

00:32:28.880 Because it's always known that, you know, you're not supposed to throw these games.

00:32:33.200 It is not known that you're supposed to, you know, inform on your other players.

00:32:38.800 And this has a sort of parallel with the controversy that, you know, Elliot Asanoff may have been involved in.

00:32:46.160 Not only was he blacklisted, but he fronted for blacklisted writers.

00:32:51.340 Okay, this is a time when the communists refused to talk on other, about other communists.

00:32:57.440 So it's always a moral issue whether you are, to use a term now in the common parlance, a whistleblower.

00:33:05.860 You know, what's right, what's wrong about that?

00:33:08.120 And in baseball, it was, you're going to, you're not going to be a part.

00:33:13.800 If you hear about this, you're going to tell the authorities.

00:33:16.620 There are a couple of minor scandals.

00:33:18.960 They're minor because they're caught early on in the 1920s.

00:33:23.480 And that's why the scandals stop in baseball.

00:33:27.720 Also, there's another thing going on called Babe Ruth.

00:33:30.600 Is there, is there, is this why Pete Rose had such a harsh penalty?

00:33:39.980 Yeah, gambling was always, you know, they, Landis threw an owner out in the 1940s for betting on his own team.

00:33:50.040 Not against his own team.

00:33:52.160 It wasn't crooked or anything like that, but he was very harsh on gambling.

00:33:56.500 You always used to see signs in the old ballparks, you know, no gambling in there.

00:34:01.640 They were very much afraid of being tainted again.

00:34:05.020 And I think, you know, the Rose thing is akin to the Shoeless Joe Jackson situation where both of them, there are arguments.

00:34:16.440 They should both be in the Hall of Fame because they're playing records, but they're kept out because they're just poison in terms of gambling situation.

00:34:25.020 So did Shoeless Joe Jackson, did he, you know, the kids say it ain't so, Joe, he wasn't, he didn't spend any time.

00:34:34.520 He was found not guilty.

00:34:37.440 Did everybody just know, was it an O.J. Simpson thing?

00:34:41.320 Everybody just knew?

00:34:42.960 Yeah, right.

00:34:43.800 He just got away with it.

00:34:46.380 Jackson's case is a little problematical because he never sits in the two meetings to discuss things.

00:34:53.320 But he does take $5,000 and he goes out to the press after he gets out of the grand jury and says, you know, I was cheated.

00:35:02.000 I wasn't get, I didn't get the other $15,000 I was promised.

00:35:05.760 He has a tremendous hitting record during the series.

00:35:09.920 He plays great.

00:35:11.140 He plays great.

00:35:12.440 He hits .375, 12 hits, the only home run of this series.

00:35:16.460 So people point to that, but he took the money.

00:35:19.820 And it appears, it looks like the best, most coherent scenario of this is that he lent his name to the fix.

00:35:28.820 That really his prestige as the best player on that team, the best position player, helped seal the deal with the gamblers.

00:35:37.620 Did he go on to play in 1920?

00:35:39.580 Well, they all play in 1920 because the scandal is not uncovered until very late in the season when they're all suspended with the pennant race still going on.

00:35:50.460 And Comiskey, the owner, the so-called cheapskate owner, bounces all the players who are still on the team.

00:35:57.620 Interestingly enough, the Yankees then offer to lend Babe Ruth to the White Sox so they can finish out their season competitively.

00:36:05.040 Holy cow. 0.89

00:36:06.800 Wow.

00:36:07.240 Holy cow have things changed.

00:36:09.120 That was not allowed.

00:36:12.720 Wow.

00:36:13.600 Wow.

00:36:14.600 David, thank you so much.

00:36:15.960 I appreciate it.

00:36:17.540 Okay.

00:36:18.120 Thank you.

00:36:18.740 God bless you.

00:36:19.400 One of my favorite historians, David Petruzza.

00:36:21.580 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

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00:36:44.480 Mr. Michael Knowles, the host of the Michael Knowles Show at the Daily Wire, a very funny guy, very smart guy, accomplished writer, I could say.

00:36:57.140 I could say writer, kind of like that when I say he was the author of the number one bestselling book, Reasons to Vote for Democrats.

00:37:07.200 If you don't know why I say writer, you should go in and look that book up.

00:37:14.800 Welcome to the program, Michael Knowles.

00:37:16.340 How are you?

00:37:17.580 Glenn, thank you for having me, and thank you for your very, very generous definition of the word writer.

00:37:26.860 So, Michael, first of all, how have you been?

00:37:28.480 I haven't talked to you in a while.

00:37:29.720 It's good to hear from you.

00:37:31.140 It's good to hear from you, Glenn.

00:37:32.500 I've been doing well, and I have been on my YAF, Young America's Foundation, lecture tour, which is the Men Are Not Women and Other Uncomfortable Truths lecture tour. 0.62

00:37:41.900 And I have never seen a basic biological reality meet such protests.

00:37:49.040 I actually found myself – I was an assignment in a gender studies class, a gender studies class called Sex and Love, two of my favorite subjects, by the way,

00:37:59.360 actually assigned the students a protest against my speech, not to come see my speech, but to protest the speech.

00:38:07.720 So it's been a pretty wild few weeks.

00:38:10.140 You know, it's really weird.

00:38:11.080 When I was in school, you would get extra credit by watching something or going someplace, listening it, and then having a conversation or writing a paper on it.

00:38:21.840 We just cut right to the chase.

00:38:23.560 Don't even listen.

00:38:24.520 Just protest.

00:38:25.140 This must have been 100 years ago.

00:38:27.640 I mean, I think now the universities have completely flipped this on its head because there was a protester at this speech who, on camera, you can see it on YouTube,

00:38:37.280 said the reason we're protesting is because this speech is literally violence.

00:38:43.580 And so, I mean, that was my reaction to you.

00:38:45.500 I said, you know, back in the way, way back days when I was in college just a few years ago, you would get extra credit if you went and listened to a lecture.

00:38:52.400 Now you're getting credit for protesting a lecture.

00:38:55.380 The way that they've done it is because they can't refute any sort of conservative argument.

00:39:00.500 The only way that they can fight back against our argument is to censor us, to shut us down, to protest us.

00:39:07.160 And the best way that they can do that is to equate our speech with violence because it then justifies their own violence in return.

00:39:15.360 That is absolutely crazy.

00:39:17.700 So you were, where were you?

00:39:19.680 I saw a video.

00:39:23.140 I think it came Monday.

00:39:25.000 And you were giving your talk.

00:39:27.500 And outside was this class.

00:39:29.980 Let's roll some of the video.

00:39:31.320 We will not allow hate on our campus.

00:39:35.880 Never allow hate.

00:39:37.040 The university has a duty to protect marginalized people and the right for everyone to feel safe at school and be treated with dignity.

00:39:45.700 Yes, ma'am.

00:39:46.840 The school up to now has not acted to protect transgender people on campus.

00:39:52.660 Hateful rhetoric against trans and gender non-performing people leads to high rates of suicide and trans people being harassed and killed.

00:40:05.060 With trans women of color dying at an alarming rate due to the intersections of racism and transphobia.

00:40:12.180 Okay.

00:40:12.860 Okay, stop.

00:40:13.680 So this was not exactly, I mean, it was seemingly kind of well attended.

00:40:17.840 Must have been maybe, I don't know, 50 or 75 people there.

00:40:20.600 Um, but they weren't really, it wasn't an exciting rally.

00:40:26.320 Uh, and, and some of the points they're making, like the high rate of, uh, of, of transgender being killed.

00:40:38.120 You know, we looked it up and in a three year period, there were only three people that were transgender that were murdered because they were transgendered.

00:40:50.560 And that, all three of them, uh, are, uh, involved the surprise that apparently hit some people when they believe they're about to hook up with a woman and it maybe is not a woman.

00:41:02.800 Right.

00:41:03.280 Um, that was the cause of three.

00:41:04.640 And when you say hook up, it was during painting.

00:41:07.820 It was sex work.

00:41:08.860 Yes. 0.88

00:41:09.060 It was sex worker. 1.00

00:41:10.220 So, you know, you don't run into the best class of Johns, you know, all the time. 0.50

00:41:17.180 You're cruising the boulevard.

00:41:18.420 Right, right, right.

00:41:19.680 You know, of course, they totally manipulate the statistics and it's all for this emotional manipulation.

00:41:26.560 What's funny is the tour, you know, it, it takes its title from the speech that I gave men are not women, where I first was, uh, very protested and, and, uh, actually physically assaulted too.

00:41:35.980 So, and, but the, there are these other uncomfortable truths and the two that I've been giving, the video you saw and the clip you played was at Kennesaw State in Georgia and then I was at University of Florida last night.

00:41:46.280 And the two other uncomfortable truths were that the mainstream media are fake news, that you're being fed a bill of goods from leftist propagandists, much like we heard in that clip.

00:41:57.080 And then the next one I thought was more important, which is that leftism is not compassionate.

00:42:02.180 And what they're saying is that if we state very basic biological reality, that that's actually cruel, it's leading to murder and it's leading to suicide.

00:42:11.120 And none of the statistics back that up at all. But what they want to do is portray reality as cruel and portray fantasy as compassionate. And, and of course, that simply isn't true.

00:42:21.920 So, Michael, what is the, what's the reaction on, uh, campuses? Because I'm, I'm starting to see videos where there are thousands of people that are turning out positively for, for conservative and, I can't even say conservative, just science facts.

00:42:40.940 Yeah, there are many, many multiples more people who are turning out to these lectures to engage in a productive way.

00:42:49.640 You know, I was at the University of Florida last night. There were hundreds of people there and it wasn't all conservative students.

00:42:54.960 Many were moderates and a few of them were left-wing and some of the left-wingers got up there and asked questions in a mostly respectful way.

00:43:02.500 And it was really productive. And it's sort of what the university is supposed to do is to foster dialogue and everybody can leave, hopefully having learned something.

00:43:11.460 I think we've reached a tipping point with these, these censors, with these people who are going to try to shut us down. 0.96

00:43:18.060 You know, they, they tell you that anybody to the right of Hillary Clinton is a fascist and a bigot and a Nazi and a murderer. 0.95

00:43:25.100 And I just think nobody really believes it. And they've, they've simply gone too far. And at this point, if you are going to protest a basic fact, you know, men are not women, you might as well protest the idea that two plus two equals four. 0.93

00:43:41.320 I think the vast, vast majority of people know that the censors have lost the narrative and they're, they're not going to take it anymore.

00:43:49.580 They're going to turn out and they're not going to be robbed of their university experience.

00:43:52.940 Well, here's what's, here's, what's weird. I, I agree with you. I think people who are independent, I think a lot of Democrats and conservatives, they know all of this.

00:44:02.120 I really think most people are like, come on, man, I don't want to hate people. I don't hate people. You want to do this with your life and your own body. That's fine.

00:44:12.240 I don't necessarily agree with it, but I'm not you. So go ahead and do whatever it is that you want to do, but don't do it to kids, you know?

00:44:20.520 Um, and I think that's where most people are. The problem is, as we are starting to say, this is crazy. And I think on all fronts, this is crazy.

00:44:31.580 We have to have a conversation about this. They have institutionalized, not just in the schools, but they've institutionalized it in our government.

00:44:39.380 When you have a seven-year-old, uh, in a Texas court being told that his mother can basically sterilize him and turn him into a woman when, you know, forget it.

00:44:54.900 Even if that seven-year-old says, yeah, I am, I am, I'm Carol Channing. You don't do that to a seven-year-old. But here in Texas, that is happening.

00:45:06.160 I mean, if it's happening in Texas, good heavens, what's happening in California, New York.

00:45:11.940 I think people are seeing this. I mean, I was shocked myself when I saw the Texas decision, and very little shocks me these days. I am in the news 24-7.

00:45:22.980 And I couldn't believe it because the problem runs so much deeper than we thought. You know, when you see the people with the crazy hair and you're yelling and screaming and they're all upset because of their leftist politics,

00:45:33.860 it's easy to write that off and say, okay, these are just fringe, lunatic people, and the vast majority are normal.

00:45:39.900 But when you have this institutionalized, not just in the judiciary, but in the judiciary in conservative places, you realize how deep the rot runs.

00:45:48.320 I think this is why these conservative campus lecture series and these actually independent campus lecture series and the protests they meet are so important, too,

00:45:57.760 because it shows you how deep the rot runs, even at elite universities. You know, there was a study out of ISI.

00:46:04.020 It showed that graduating seniors at elite universities know less about their history and their government and their politics than incoming freshmen.

00:46:12.360 This is a really, really deep problem, and it's going to take a lot more than one or two elections or one or two decisions to turn it around.

00:46:18.720 All right, this weekend, Politicon is happening in Nashville, and you're going to be there. And who are you debating?

00:46:23.000 I am going to be debating a Democratic strategist by the name of Chris Hahn, who once called me Skinny Boy on national television.

00:46:32.940 So that tells you a little bit about the tenor of our debate. It should be a lot of fun.

00:46:40.940 All right, Michael, thank you so much.

00:46:43.260 You can find Michael at TheDailyWire.com and listen to his show, The Michael Knowles Show, and see him this weekend at Politicon.

00:46:52.460 Thanks, Michael. Appreciate it.

00:46:53.780 Thanks so much, Glenn.

00:46:54.700 You bet.

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The Glenn Beck Program - October 24, 2019

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