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00:00:32.520 uh joe biden now the allegation has been around for a while but there's new backup another person

00:00:37.340 another witness has come forward who heard about the story at the time we'll get into that and we

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00:01:35.580 okay so there is a new update now the former neighbor of joe biden's accuser tara reed

00:01:47.120 has now corroborated the sexual assault account we now have the mother calling into larry king in 1993

00:01:56.520 and we have uh probably three witnesses one is the brother uh who said i remember her saying that he had

00:02:09.220 his hands underneath her clothes he said but i don't remember anything else and that to me is consistent

00:02:15.860 i can't imagine telling your brother all of the gory details uh on that when it happened so we have

00:02:23.040 that as a witness uh by the way she's a democrat that's something that's important that we never 0.80

00:02:29.600 had with kavanaugh's accuser she was somebody that was leading the charge to get kavanaugh uh to not be

00:02:36.900 or any of the republicans to not be the supreme court justice uh so she is on record as an advocate

00:02:45.120 against the supreme court nominee of donald trump tara reed is an active democrat well so is the

00:02:53.540 former neighbor the former neighbor they have checked all of her uh our social media she has

00:03:00.500 constantly been a fan of joe biden and constantly been a democrat she is wildly anti-trump so she doesn't

00:03:10.740 seem to have an axe to grind with joe biden so her name is linda lacasse she's a biden supporter

00:03:19.440 and she said that reed told her about the alleged assault in detail in 1995 or 1996 she said i know

00:03:28.800 this happened because i remember talking to her about it they were apparently sitting out on the porch

00:03:35.060 one night of her house they were neighbors um and uh she said that we would we would sit out on the

00:03:42.400 porch sometimes and we would just talk and she's a victim of abuse and she brought up this abuse that 1.00

00:03:49.460 she had uh and apparently reed then said this happened to me and she told her the whole story she said i

00:03:59.320 remember her saying there was this person she was working for and she idolized him he kind of put her

00:04:05.600 up against a wall he put his hand up her skirt and he uh put his inserted his fingers in her uh she felt 1.00

00:04:14.140 like she was assaulted you think she really didn't feel that there was anything she could do about it

00:04:19.700 i remember she got very emotional as she told the story she was crying she was upset and the more she

00:04:26.000 talked about it the more she started crying i remember saying that she needed to file a police

00:04:30.820 report she said she doesn't recall whether reed supplied any other details like the location or

00:04:36.180 anything i'll i don't remember all the details i just remember the skirt i remember the fingers i remember

00:04:42.500 she was devastated that sounds completely consistent and uh worth looking into doesn't condemn joe biden

00:04:52.760 but is least worth looking into it should there should be some sort of investigation i don't know

00:05:00.180 how you're going to investigate something this old but it it should be done and i to point out glenn

00:05:06.700 here this is a more recent incident by a considerable margin than when we dealt with with brett kavanaugh

00:05:14.140 it is a situation where we have now four people who are witnesses the we had only two uh and then

00:05:22.620 the mom we now have kind of saying at least something went on we don't know what it was so that would

00:05:27.900 be a third and then the fourth here is this neighbor again who seems to be a joe it's still a joe biden

00:05:34.320 supporter even after the sexual assault which is a considerable amount of dedication she's to the

00:05:39.660 candidate listen to this listen to this she said um coming forward to support an allegation against

00:05:45.760 a democratic prudential presidential nominee may have repercussions for me i have no political acts

00:05:53.040 to grind and i intend on voting for biden i i personally am a democrat a very strong democrat

00:06:00.000 i'm for bart biden regardless but i have to come out and say this that's that's really uh really strong

00:06:09.960 and look i don't think this is this is proof it happened because you know look there this is a

00:06:16.180 there's a presidential nomination on the line obviously biden is vulnerable i have no idea if

00:06:22.320 these people are coming up out and making it up they may be but we do know that this was considered

00:06:27.640 absolute proof when james comey wrote notes about a meeting in with with donald trump um when you when

00:06:34.900 you say something at the time and we look back 30 years later that's just absolute proof in the in

00:06:40.280 the eyes of the left i don't think that's a fair standard because you don't know what the motivations

00:06:44.720 are uh for for someone doing this but we do know that it's massively more evidence than ever came up

00:06:51.440 from anything to do with we all said kavanaugh when it first happened with kavanaugh we all said

00:06:58.380 look this is disturbing we should look into it we didn't condemn him we said we should look into it

00:07:04.260 when when he testified and blazy ford testified that day we went into it thinking she could be very

00:07:11.740 very credible by the end of it and listening to him and her we discovered which one was more credible

00:07:19.480 or not um eventually everything blazy ford fell apart everything she said all fell apart this might

00:07:28.940 as well but it should be looked into when you have here's another person uh that come uh is coming

00:07:35.700 out now uh she worked uh as a legislator legislative staffer in uh senator jack o'connell's office in

00:07:46.180 california another democrat she said she and reed worked alongside each other from 94 to 96

00:07:54.560 she said she remembers reed complaining at the time about being mistreated by her former employee

00:08:01.420 reed said she had been sexually harassed by her former boss while she was in dc and as a result

00:08:07.820 of her voicing her concerns to a supervisor she was let go she was fired what i do remember sanchez said

00:08:15.640 yesterday is reassuring her that nothing like that would ever happen to her in our office that she was in

00:08:22.020 a safe place free from any sexual harassment uh she does remember that the employer sanchez

00:08:30.620 sanchez recalls uh of of reed was biden sanchez placed praised reed for speaking out it takes great

00:08:39.240 courage and strength to come forward sanchez said in a statement uh it's much easier to keep silent

00:08:44.780 however i understand the duty that we have as women to share our story regardless of who the perpetrator

00:08:50.220 may be all reasoned yeah look it is more than you got for any of these accusations uh that we went

00:08:59.620 through uh with kavanaugh or you know several other figures on the right this is this is stuff that

00:09:05.460 i mean look we should step back and say this that it is not impossible to arrange a few people

00:09:12.160 some of which that you're closely related to to back you on a story that's false it's very possible

00:09:18.380 that it's false i i don't know that there's enough evidence there's a lot of questions in her story

00:09:22.800 some of it sounds very questionable to me um it's something that as we've always said when someone

00:09:28.720 comes forward with a serious accusation like that they should be taken seriously however i i can't

00:09:35.180 i can't get over just the double standard of the media and when i look at this and i say

00:09:39.940 there's two standards here the the kavanaugh standard and the way they're treating joe biden right now

00:09:45.320 i think the way they're treating joe biden right now is closer to the way they should do it

00:09:50.300 because they shouldn't necessarily just convict him and destroy his life like they did kavanaugh's life

00:09:57.480 as steven crowder mentioned like there is a double standard here i don't the kavanaugh standard is so

00:10:02.300 horrific to me i want nothing to do with it the biden one doesn't seem to be exactly right either

00:10:07.780 considering we've now gone gone 33 days since this allegation and joe biden despite dozens of

00:10:14.800 interviews has never been asked about it that's incredible there's no way to dismiss that other

00:10:22.020 than massive media bias and complete journalistic malpractice there's no other way to explain that

00:10:28.600 let me give you one more thing i think in tara reed's favor uh you know things like this change 1.00

00:10:35.780 your life so what did she do reed went to work in the domestic violent unit uh domestic violence unit 1.00

00:10:41.860 for the king county prosecutor in seattle she received her law degree from seattle university

00:10:46.500 school of law in 2004 so she went back to school uh she later served as legal services director for 0.79

00:10:54.880 snohomish county center for battered women this woman had a change she went back to school after the 1.00

00:11:02.380 she gets her law degree and goes to work uh to help fight uh abusers and battered women

00:11:10.700 that too sounds consistent and again there's no axe to grind here it's not like if she was a if she

00:11:20.620 was a trump supporter i would be skeptical but seeing that she is a strong democrat who has always

00:11:28.580 liked to joe biden idolized him i mean it's it's hard to find a reason why someone would go out and

00:11:36.580 just destroy their lives you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program

00:11:45.640 we are living in unprecedented times we are living in history what we do now what we have done over

00:12:04.820 the last few weeks and how we react to this in the coming months will be studied by historians for a

00:12:11.600 very very very long time uh this is the biggest event uh probably since world war ii um it is the

00:12:22.100 biggest non-war event

00:12:24.100 maybe since the end of slavery i mean i can't think of anything uh bigger than uh than this um it is

00:12:35.280 unprecedented and we need to keep journals and we need to make records uh and this is the first time

00:12:45.720 i mean i've always been interested in story core because i thought oh that it would be really cool

00:12:50.900 to do and have conversations and have them on record at the national archives etc etc so people

00:12:56.420 could go by you know 100 years from now and they'll see what we were saying to each other

00:13:01.180 um but this is the first time that i thought having my family on record talking about what this

00:13:07.980 experience is like would be really remarkable for future generations even if it's just for my family

00:13:15.860 story core is something that the people that listen to npr know all about it they've been with npr

00:13:24.280 covered on npr for a very long time uh and they reached out to us and said can we get some

00:13:30.800 conservatives to participate in story core we want to make sure we're recording all voices and so

00:13:36.060 dave i say he's the founder and president of story core um he was in my office a couple of times and

00:13:41.680 i just find it of real value and they're doing something right now uh that is recording the voices

00:13:49.140 of people during this pandemic uh again for history uh and dave joins us right now hi dave

00:13:57.700 glenn it's good to talk to you good to see you yeah good to talk to you um so dave tell me what

00:14:04.780 you guys have been doing because usually you bring people into these little remote studios

00:14:09.160 but you're doing this now all over zoom or skype or facetime yeah yeah so um as as you know story

00:14:17.140 core has been around for a while and it's a real simple idea it's about connecting families

00:14:21.080 so you have to um you you bring your we started with a booth in grand central terminal

00:14:27.200 bring your grandmother to that booth face to face there's a facilitator and you interview her about

00:14:33.100 her life and as you know the microphone gives you the license to talk about things you've never

00:14:36.440 talked about before to talk about important things so people think of it as i had 40 minutes left to

00:14:40.800 live what would i say to this person who means so much to me what would i ask of them and at the

00:14:44.720 end of the 40 minutes you get a copy it's only audio and another goes to the library of congress

00:14:49.240 so your great great great grandkids can get to know your grandmother through her life and story

00:14:53.540 and essentially because of what's being talked about we're kind of passing wisdom from one

00:14:57.240 generation to the next and it's like the opposite of reality tv right nobody does it to get rich or

00:15:01.980 famous it's just this act of generosity and love we've had 600 000 americans participate um in this so

00:15:08.380 far and when the pandemic hit we decided to make a very fast switch and worked with a technology company

00:15:15.560 called well we we figured out a technology solution to allow us to do this online

00:15:21.260 um i called the ceo of a company called vonage which was the company that um was the technology

00:15:27.600 we wanted to use and said we want to do this and he said okay you can have everything for free

00:15:31.560 and we built this platform called story core connect which for the first time allows you to do it is

00:15:37.180 somewhat like a zoom interview but it's um it's more secure the audio is better you see it you you dial

00:15:43.720 you ask your grandmother to make an up you you send your grandmother a link and you go to this site

00:15:49.320 and you do a story core interview you can see her someone who you're isolated from and at the end of

00:15:54.820 the conversation you hit upload and it goes to the library of congress so like you said we're we're here

00:16:00.740 collecting um this primary source material about um this incredible moment we're living through and also

00:16:08.260 you know i i also think that everything about story core in some ways reminds us of our mortality

00:16:13.680 right because um you know we're all going to die my my communications people hate when i say this but

00:16:20.760 that's what story core is it shakes you on the shoulder and reminds you that you know what's

00:16:24.800 important and to say the things you want to say to people now um so so that's another given urge

00:16:30.880 another urgency of this you know it's it's an ability to connect with elders who are isolated and tell

00:16:36.340 them you love them by interviewing them it's a way to capture the stories of the moment um it's it's

00:16:42.620 you know that two things um from a story or interview uh and i know you know this one is that

00:16:48.780 no matter how well you know the person that you're interviewing you're going to find out things you never

00:16:52.280 knew before and the second is you're never going to regret it um you and i usually you know we've been

00:16:57.200 on the radio together for as as friends for a couple years talking about uh the side project of

00:17:03.260 story core bringing the country together um the the the kind of culture of contempt that we're living

00:17:08.280 in um and we've dialed back on that for a couple of months to go back to the original premise of

00:17:13.400 story core and just help us um you know uh call a loved one and and tell them that we love them

00:17:19.860 mother's day would be a great time to do this you know it costs nothing it's the least expensive most

00:17:24.420 gift you can give all right so dave um bring bring uh one of uh you know one of these that you have

00:17:33.140 recorded recently um set this up sure so i think the clip we're playing is actually so this is one of

00:17:40.720 the very first story core connect interviews and it's actually my kid who has covid my 11 year old

00:17:47.140 and his grandmother my mom talking to each other how has living through the experience of covid 19 made

00:17:55.140 you feel it's terrible i hate being alone i hate not being able to see you goby i hate not being able

00:18:03.760 to hug you but i can live through it are you afraid you know i'm not afraid of dying i've had a great

00:18:10.800 life i've done my job what i'm afraid of is losing somebody i love and that makes me sleepless my

00:18:22.020 grandmother died in the flu epidemic of 1918 which we're thinking a lot about because we're in a

00:18:28.540 pandemic right yeah and my mother and her sisters they were all orphans and that gave me a sense that

00:18:36.400 you can have troubles and sorrows but your family if you're very lucky and you're very loving it will

00:18:44.920 survive toby what was it like to have covid it wasn't great are you feeling better now are you all

00:18:52.680 better no not all better but i'm feeling better good i'm so glad you're feeling better i want you to

00:18:59.540 be well and i love you from a to z and back you're living through one of the most crazy and consequential

00:19:10.120 times in a century and you survived yeah i love you i love you toby that is such a great story so i mean

00:19:22.400 that's just so touching so touching how's your son dave he's you know he's still sick um but he's he's

00:19:30.540 a tough guy and you know we're very very very lucky we're the lucky ones you know it's like a long

00:19:36.940 flu yeah um and there are so many you know my um i i was my assistant you know lost her um aunt uh her

00:19:46.440 cousin who's uh 40 years old the mother of three little kids i mean it's it's this is what's happening

00:19:52.080 here we're just blessed um he's going to be fine but there's a lot of bad stuff going on out there

00:19:57.480 especially here in new york it'll be interesting to see we have a neighbor right down the street

00:20:03.140 uh she's 95 years old and um we check in with her and her husband from time to time

00:20:08.560 and uh she remembers uh the after effects of of the last pandemic right and she said i i i've never

00:20:21.380 seen anything like this in my life and to have a 95 year old say i've never seen anything like this

00:20:29.660 is a little sobering uh and to be able to to talk to grandparents and talk to people

00:20:37.520 who have lived a full life and have them say this is important uh just i don't know it's it's different

00:20:48.140 than seeing anybody yell a president can say it a prime minister you know walter cronkite it's not

00:20:53.800 the same as having a 95 year old say this is new yeah no i i agree with you and i think i mean we

00:21:02.920 we haven't spent a lot of time talking about kind of the core of story core because we spend so much

00:21:07.060 time talking about the divides but you know i think we devalue the wisdom of our elders you know

00:21:12.420 and there's so much that we can learn from them and we live in a we live in this disposable culture

00:21:18.120 it's about twitter you know it's about everything's it's gone in a second you know and what story core

00:21:23.300 does is focus on what's real and enduring um and and there's no more important time than now

00:21:29.940 to to um to to focus on that and and again you know we never know what's going to happen so

00:21:36.560 the idea of of saying the things that you want to say to the people who you love

00:21:40.560 i mean i have people come up to me every day under normal circumstances when i'm running

00:21:45.100 around the the world saying i wish i had interviewed my grandmother i wish i had interviewed my sister

00:21:50.540 oh i wish i had interviewed my father but i waited too long and you know the message now is don't wait

00:21:56.440 it's time so the website is storycoreconnect.org um it's free and um you know we think of it as you

00:22:05.460 know it's a public service and it's a it's a you know listening to a loved one is a way to say

00:22:11.020 a way to tell them how much you they mean to you so don't don't wait yeah it's a great thing for

00:22:17.560 mother's day but it's a great thing just uh to do you know today just to do it and um history as told

00:22:25.540 by the people who are living it is so important dave what he has done uh with story core is i think

00:22:32.380 one of the one of the most important projects of uh of a historian uh that i can think of and uh

00:22:42.300 please get involved story core connect dot org that's story core c-o-r-p-s connect dot org

00:22:52.580 thank you so much dave talk to you again we'll talk soon be well

00:22:56.200 you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program

00:23:03.700 dr thomas yadigar icu director provenance of the glenbeck program

00:23:26.180 in cedars-sini tarzana medical center obviously this guy is no slouch he is worth listening to

00:23:33.520 he's a pulmonologist uh who says he has some important information to share with the public

00:23:39.680 and doctors around the world uh welcome doctor how are you i'm well glen how are you doing

00:23:45.800 good i appreciate you having the guts to come on and uh and and possibly say things that

00:23:52.400 some people don't want people to hear it's weird this situation that we're in right now

00:23:57.620 how can you help us navigate um well you know we've been treating patients for probably about

00:24:05.820 six to seven weeks and the first few weeks it was my our experience was the same as everywhere else

00:24:12.580 where patients were coming in um they were becoming very ill on the floor we really couldn't figure out

00:24:18.900 why um we had to put them on ventilators and before very long i just saw more and more patients

00:24:25.840 in my intensive care unit and the thing that was very concerning was that one i didn't really

00:24:30.600 understand what the process was that was causing them to get so sick and uh two what was really

00:24:37.840 unusual was that it almost seemed like every single patient had a different type of a disease process

00:24:43.720 yes they had what we thought was pneumonia yes they were on a ventilator but they weren't necessarily

00:24:50.140 acting the same um if i take if i can take you back to 10 years ago when we had the h1n1 0.93

00:24:55.880 uh epidemic you know at that time i may have had 10 15 patients that were on ventilators

00:25:01.520 but i can go into each room and each of them had the same kind of pathophysiology

00:25:07.020 maybe they were at a different stage of the disease but essentially it was the same disease which

00:25:12.240 caused us to be able to predict what was going to happen in these types of patients there's really

00:25:17.660 no predictability to it everyone does something that's unique to themselves and that's what makes

00:25:24.020 it so difficult to treat because you know you have no idea what's going to happen the next day

00:25:28.920 that's kind of scary um is there another disease like this or another virus like this

00:25:36.520 you know i've uh i've been a pulmonary critical care doctor for 20 years and i've been the medical

00:25:41.660 director uh for over 10 years and no i have not seen this before in in my experience um so i've

00:25:49.520 been dealing with the respiratory infections go ahead i've just been dealing with respiratory

00:25:56.380 infections of all types of viruses bacteria even fungal infections you know there's always some

00:26:01.940 sort of predictability you know there's always some sort of a disease pattern once you recognize

00:26:06.480 the pattern you can make the diagnosis and then you could predict what's going to happen

00:26:10.060 and you could start a treatment plan which you know will hopefully help the patient and these types

00:26:15.380 of patients it there really isn't any predictability so doesn't that make this harder to treat and

00:26:22.700 wouldn't that say don't go to work because we don't we don't have a handle on it um i i guess i mean

00:26:31.460 i guess it depends on where you're coming from um i i was uh initially i trained in the 1990s

00:26:37.900 in medical school in my internship that was during the hiv pandemic and to many many different factors

00:26:45.420 this kind of reminds me of that you know um there is a lot of fear and unfortunately that's what we've

00:26:50.720 kind of fed into as opposed to science and fact and logic and um you know people don't want to

00:26:57.160 necessarily go into the rooms and treat these patients and and see them which which i can understand

00:27:02.280 you know that there are i've spoken to many doctors many nurses and some of them not so much for

00:27:06.840 the fear of their own lives but some of them have spouses that are on you know that may have had

00:27:11.620 transplants or on immunosuppressive therapy and they're just concerned that you know not only can

00:27:16.000 i die but i can take something back home to my loved ones and and and hurt them and that was

00:27:21.440 that's not an unusual thought i mean i at the same thought went through my head as well

00:27:25.180 i think that's normal um but you just have to say okay but i'm a physician i'm i'm a nurse i'm a

00:27:32.460 healthcare provider i'm trained for this i'm going to do the best possible to protect myself and i'm

00:27:38.500 going to do everything possible to protect my family but i have to treat these patients someone

00:27:43.560 has to treat these patients okay so you've just been asked to command you know regionally across

00:27:50.340 four more hospitals because you are performing way above you and your team above any of the hospitals

00:27:56.760 in the los angeles area um you haven't lost a single patient uh no one has had to go on a ventilator

00:28:03.800 uh and you say that you have a protocol where you can find certain markers and you'll know who

00:28:13.100 will crash and who won't oh first of all under normal circumstances there's 20 physicians that i

00:28:21.440 supervise and we take care of uh patients at two different hospitals um usually on a daily basis

00:28:27.180 we take care of 100 to 125 patients about 30 to 40 of them that are in the intensive care unit

00:28:32.540 um i work both at providence cedars-sinai tarzana medical center as well as west hills medical center

00:28:38.960 although i'm not speaking for any entity this is just my personal observation i just want to make

00:28:44.880 that clear okay um yeah yeah but that's that's our normal uh our normal team that we normally uh

00:28:51.140 take care of patients and you know initially what was happening was again you know patients were

00:28:55.860 coming into the hospital they were getting sicker we're filling we're putting them in the icu 0.91

00:29:00.540 and i i just thought okay i don't understand what's happening so i started reading i started

00:29:05.400 researching and one of the things that i first came up with was that you know these patients are

00:29:10.160 having what's called the cytokine storm syndrome um and this is a very that's what happened in

00:29:16.640 that happened in 1918 with pandemic as well did it not um i believe so although i'm not sure at that

00:29:24.760 time that you know we had the technology to really find out exactly what was happening on a molecular

00:29:29.340 basis but uh this syndrome what happens is that you know the patients that are get very very sick

00:29:35.720 the immune system normally mounts a response right so if you get a bacteria if you

00:29:40.140 get a virus it activates your immune system and then the immune system coordinates its

00:29:43.820 activity so that it can destroy the virus or the bacteria but in the subset of patients the immune

00:29:51.140 system kind of goes awry it doesn't act normally and the immune system gets super ramped up

00:29:56.880 and instead of attacking the virus it starts actually attacking the patient's own vital organs

00:30:02.920 so what i started noticing was that you know what these patients that are going on the respirator

00:30:08.600 these patients that are what we thought was the virus was causing pneumonia no these patients that

00:30:13.840 are coming in and really suddenly becoming so sick it's actually their own immune system that was

00:30:18.880 causing the problem not necessarily the virus now don't get me wrong this is a deadly virus and just

00:30:24.700 like an influenza virus it can definitely cause pneumonia it can definitely cause respiratory failure

00:30:29.620 if patients have emphysema or heart failure it can definitely exacerbate those and lead

00:30:34.340 you know to them to get uh into the icu for those diseases as well but this was doing something

00:30:39.700 unique this was doing something that i really hadn't seen much in my 20 years where it was activating the

00:30:46.260 immune system and then now the immune system was causing all the destruction in the lungs

00:30:50.900 not just the virus itself so in a way this SARS-CoV-2 causes kind of two different clinical diseases

00:30:58.340 the first part of it is an infectious disease where the virus is a deadly virus and can seriously do

00:31:04.680 some harm but then the second and i think this is probably the more important part is it causes this

00:31:10.340 activation of the immune system and it doesn't cause it in all the patients but it causes it in the

00:31:15.120 subset of the patients to get hospitalized and these are the patients that we found were coming into our

00:31:20.440 ICU the majority of the patients went in our icu and once we once we once i started noticing this i started

00:31:26.960 looking for markers and these are many markers and how difficult it how difficult is to find the markers

00:31:34.240 and can you be tested uh for that easily or yeah these are not any um unusual markers actually a lot of

00:31:42.480 the hospitals are checking the markers um you know but the problem is that there's about six or seven

00:31:48.640 different markers some of the markers are important to rule out uh other disorders like other infections

00:31:54.240 or sepsis and those types of things and then some of the markers are important to kind of let you know

00:31:59.620 that this inflammatory uh issue is going on in these patients um so you have to you have to look at every

00:32:06.880 single patient individually and you have to go through this kind of exhaustive checklist one make sure that

00:32:13.900 there isn't any other problem two then make sure that you know to check to see if they're having this

00:32:19.760 inflammatory problem and then if they are then you have to kind of watch them very very carefully

00:32:24.580 and so if you're what we've noticed if you're if you're having the inflammatory problem that's why

00:32:30.720 uh i don't know if you're a believer in this or not but why hydroxychloroquine might work with some

00:32:37.440 patients and not with others yeah it's it's possible i just think probably it wasn't as strong enough

00:32:44.580 uh anti-inflammatory uh it wasn't a strong enough immunosuppressant and there's a lot of research

00:32:49.440 that there's a lot of articles that came out and you know said that and at this point we're not

00:32:53.960 really using azithromax and azithromycin anymore and the hydroxychloroquine from system-wide has been

00:33:00.120 kind of on an as-needed basis an individual case that where you can insert whether the patient needs it

00:33:05.860 or not but the important thing was that you know when these patients have these inflammatory markers

00:33:09.800 that are elevated if you follow them very closely uh you saw that you know a minority of them do

00:33:16.160 have this problem where all of a sudden they rapidly you know get much worse and they go from needing

00:33:22.240 very little oxygen to needing to be intubated within a six to 12 hour process and this was the

00:33:27.160 exciting part where we can and before getting to that point before it needed to be on a respirator

00:33:32.780 we started treating them very aggressively with anti-inflammatory medication

00:33:36.540 with strong immunosuppressive medications which is kind of counterintuitive right you think that

00:33:42.080 this patient is here to have a virus it's a deadly virus it's killed what 200 000 people across the

00:33:47.680 globe um but now instead of treating the virus you're actually giving medicine to suppress the

00:33:54.580 patient's immune system which is something that's really counterintuitive but that was what worked for

00:34:00.760 these patients we were able to now instead of putting those patients on a ventilator we were able to give

00:34:05.480 them the medicines act fast and early which is i think very very very important to detect it early

00:34:11.740 and to treat it early and then at that point you know we're able to prevent them from needing to go

00:34:17.540 on a respirator and that's what really has changed everything around for um both of our hospitals

00:34:23.400 over the past month so um why why do you think more people haven't discovered this protocol are you

00:34:31.860 getting calls from people you know from other doctors and hospitals um i am getting calls from

00:34:38.100 other doctors you know and the calls i would say are kind of 50 50 there's a lot of doctors who

00:34:42.560 unfortunately are looking for a quick fix right so what's the one test what's the one medicine and

00:34:48.140 that's the one thing i can i can't stress any any harder to you and your listeners is there isn't

00:34:53.600 necessarily one test and there isn't any one particular um treatment plan every patient has their own

00:35:01.200 kind of individual disease and we've had to treat every single patient now probably going on 30 to 35

00:35:07.440 patients that we've treated actively with this with a different regimen um not everyone you know you can't

00:35:15.340 treat everyone with the same uh treatments there isn't a one size fits all for this disease you have to do

00:35:22.700 your due diligence you have to look at the patient in front of you and then you know come up with a treatment

00:35:28.760 for the disease that that patient is manifesting you can't just go through the icu and start handing out 0.50

00:35:35.620 these medicines if you give this medicine to someone who doesn't need it you will surely kill them

00:35:39.900 so now you have to go through you may have 10 patients in the icu and maybe three of them maybe six of them

00:35:46.360 have this but the other three or four do not so you can't just sit there and give this to everyone

00:35:51.400 you have to go through go through the process with each and every one of these patients and figure

00:35:56.360 out what's going on with them and then come up with the correct treatment for them

00:36:00.680 one last question um uh doctor and and that is uh last weekend two er doctors uh from bakersfield

00:36:11.080 they have seen more than 5 000 coronavirus tests they held a press conference the local media covered it

00:36:18.220 and they reported their findings and said the coronavirus is similar to the seasonal flu for

00:36:23.740 for the most part and quarantine is not helping build a herd immunity and they were confident that

00:36:30.380 reopening was safe but it was their personal opinion um this now has gone against what sounds spooky to me

00:36:39.100 uh the authoritative truth uh and uh yesterday um the american college of emergency physicians and

00:36:48.940 everybody else uh hammered them for this uh for coming out and not walking in lockstep and uh youtube

00:36:58.060 removed their video uh saying that it was not part of authoritative truth does that concern you at

00:37:05.420 all that we are silencing people that might disagree uh but but are not you know quacks 0.63

00:37:13.740 yeah i mean i think anytime you suppress someone's freedom of speech um and their um thought you know

00:37:19.980 then i think that's dangerous um so i think you know especially from physicians who are on the front

00:37:25.660 line um they need to be able to you know get out what they're thinking what they're seeing i think it

00:37:31.020 you know if you once you start suppressing that it makes it very very very dangerous uh the one

00:37:36.060 other thing glenn i wanted to kind of tell you which is something that we've learned over the past

00:37:40.140 week is that so this virus not only causes the infectious disease okay which usually manifests

00:37:47.100 in the first week but the more important thing is it causes an autoimmune disease okay now the cytokine

00:37:53.500 storm is one part of it but the autoimmune disease that it causes could be anything so now you're

00:38:00.620 reading about all these people who are getting blood clots which are not responding to the common

00:38:04.700 therapy or people who have strokes or people who have uh guillain beret syndrome which you know is

00:38:11.260 a neuromuscular disorder or people who develop myocarditis and cardiomyopathy and have sudden death

00:38:17.980 these are all an autoimmune disease that this virus triggers now this isn't a unknown thing we've

00:38:25.340 known that viruses can you know trigger autoimmune diseases in the past it's just that this

00:38:30.300 disease this virus does it in an extraordinary pace it does it in a significant amount of the

00:38:36.380 patients um that we're seeing in our icus and i think this is the part that i would like to get out

00:38:43.500 is that i don't think the doctors are recognizing that you know besides the virus causing damage

00:38:49.180 it's triggering an autoimmune disease and it's the autoimmune process that's causing all the other

00:38:54.940 parts and it's it's important because i'm sorry god no go ahead quickly finish i'm sorry we're just

00:39:01.980 running out of time of course it's the autoimmune process that if we can detect early okay we're

00:39:07.660 telling all these patients to stay home stay home stay home and then by the time they're coming in

00:39:11.340 they're too sick we're missing this we're missing the part where we can pick up the autoimmune

00:39:15.420 process if we can detect it early we can intervene early we may be able to save a lot of these

00:39:22.060 patients and maybe drastically change what we're doing um in terms of you know having patients stay

00:39:29.260 at home having everyone be quarantined and all those kind of things great dr dr tom uh yadagar the icu

00:39:37.260 director providence cedars-sinai tarzana medical center uh thank you so much for speaking out and

00:39:43.020 thank you for sharing this information and congratulations to all of the people that you

00:39:46.780 work with on doing such an amazing job uh not having any of the patients on a respirator and

00:39:53.980 and so far you haven't lost a patient good job thank you so much god bless

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