The Glenn Beck Program - January 08, 2019


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On this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck sits down with Stephen Crowder to discuss the President's plan to use emergency powers to get across the US-Mexico border with a bill that calls for a wall on the southern border.

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00:00:00.000 Hello and welcome to the podcast. It is Tuesday and a very important Tuesday at 9 p.m. on this night.
00:00:08.240 The president is going to speak about a very important issue. We'll get into that on the podcast in a second.
00:00:13.840 First, I want to tell you, let me give you this example. Stephen Crowder. You might be familiar with him.
00:00:17.760 He's got a show. It's very popular. Shut up. It's coming back on January 17th. Whoa.
00:00:22.020 You know where it's coming back to? Where? Blaze TV. Oh, my God.
00:00:25.400 Can't believe you're a subscriber. You're going to get it. Yeah, but he's the only one.
00:00:27.580 No, there's dozens of them. Dozens of them. Glenn Beck Program, you might know.
00:00:32.080 You can watch the show every day. You can watch Pat Gray Unleashed, and you can get News and Why It Matters,
00:00:37.300 plus dozens of other shows like Eric Bolling and Mark Levin and Stephen Crowder.
00:00:41.120 Where could I get this? You can get that at blazetv.com slash Beck.
00:00:44.720 It's probably really expensive. Well, what if I were to get $10 off for you? Shut up.
00:00:48.300 Yeah, I can do that for you if you use the promo code Beck. Go there now, subscribe, and get ready for the show.
00:00:54.340 We get this show every day, and Stephen Crowder starts on the 17th.
00:00:57.080 Okay, so on today's podcast, I think you're really going to like it.
00:01:01.380 We hit a couple of things.
00:01:03.740 One, just the pros and cons of the president saying,
00:01:08.180 I'm going to use an executive order or emergency measures to be able to build the wall on the border.
00:01:15.080 I think the consensus is that we agree with the goal.
00:01:19.200 We don't like the route, and that was surprising when we took it to the phones
00:01:24.220 and talked to people all over the country.
00:01:27.040 It was pretty unanimous, was it not?
00:01:29.320 Yeah, I think so. It's a principled audience,
00:01:31.140 and so it's going to be interesting to see what the president actually talks about,
00:01:34.420 and we'll be able to talk about it in more detail when he actually goes through it tonight.
00:01:36.980 Also, Jeffy, Jeff Fisher, who's been with this show for about 20 years,
00:01:40.420 had a heart attack over the holiday.
00:01:43.140 We talked about his fatness, his smoking, and his widow-maker heart attack.
00:01:49.640 He is one of the very few that have a heart attack this massive and actually live.
00:01:54.600 God only knows why.
00:01:55.840 He was spared, but he was spared, and we talk about that on today's podcast.
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00:03:15.860 All right, what would you say if I told you that officially
00:03:28.140 we were already under a state of emergency?
00:03:33.800 28 different states of emergencies.
00:03:38.020 They never, ever go away.
00:03:40.760 You can't, once you declare a national emergency, the president does,
00:03:45.300 and I make no mistake, I believe he has this power to do it,
00:03:48.820 and I think it's an important power for the president to have.
00:03:52.000 But the way it's designed, it never, ever goes away.
00:03:56.740 Because it takes both houses to just majority vote, no.
00:04:01.360 But then it goes to the president, and he has to veto.
00:04:05.260 Well, he's the guy who just proposed it.
00:04:08.740 So he's not going to veto it.
00:04:10.640 He is going to veto it.
00:04:12.500 Then you have to have two-thirds of Congress overturn his veto.
00:04:20.000 Well, that almost never happens.
00:04:21.340 And, in fact, in history, it never has happened.
00:04:24.880 But if you look at the national emergencies that we have,
00:04:28.820 they all kind of fall into the same category.
00:04:31.980 Who was the first president to declare a national emergency?
00:04:36.760 Can you even guess?
00:04:39.420 It was Jimmy Carter.
00:04:42.340 And it happened in 1979.
00:04:45.620 So we went from 1791 or 1789 to 1979 without a national emergency.
00:04:57.100 We went through World War I, World War II.
00:04:59.780 We went through the Civil War, no national emergencies.
00:05:05.180 1979 was the first.
00:05:07.720 And I want you to listen to the pattern.
00:05:09.800 Blocking the Iranian government property, November 14, 1979.
00:05:14.360 So that's what Obama, when he flew all that cash back,
00:05:18.400 that's what Obama was usurping now.
00:05:23.080 He was giving back their property.
00:05:24.860 But that still remains.
00:05:26.420 We're still under a state of emergency blocking property.
00:05:30.420 So Carter did it against Iran.
00:05:32.240 And then, you know, the billions of dollars we sent over there
00:05:35.040 was essentially the other side of that transaction.
00:05:36.960 They were complaining about how we kept their stuff all this time.
00:05:39.180 Correct.
00:05:39.660 But we never got rid of the national emergency.
00:05:41.840 Right.
00:05:43.260 Proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, November 14, 1994.
00:05:47.320 So the next guy who did it was Bill Clinton.
00:05:50.040 Now, listen to this.
00:05:51.820 So the first president to ever do it, 1979, was Carter.
00:05:59.140 He only did it once.
00:06:00.720 Then Reagan never did it. 0.98
00:06:02.620 Bush never did it.
00:06:04.100 Then, 1994, Clinton gets out his pen.
00:06:08.620 Proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.
00:06:10.440 Then, prohibiting transactions with terrorists who threatened to disrupt
00:06:14.320 the Middle East peace process in 1995.
00:06:17.500 Prohibiting certain transactions with respect to the development
00:06:20.260 of the Iranian petroleum resources, 1995.
00:06:23.580 Also in 1995, blocking assets and prohibiting transactions
00:06:27.920 with significant narcotic traffickers.
00:06:30.880 Then in 96, regulations of the anchorage and movement of vessels
00:06:35.580 with respect to Cuba.
00:06:36.980 Then in 97, blocking Sudanese government property and prohibiting
00:06:41.340 transactions with Sudan.
00:06:43.280 Blocking property of persons who threaten international stabilization
00:06:46.120 efforts in the Western Balkans.
00:06:47.880 That's 2001.
00:06:49.560 So now, George Bush is getting into it.
00:06:53.000 And here's where it really picks up the speed.
00:06:55.820 Continuation of export control regulations, August 17, 2001.
00:07:00.700 Declaration of national emergency by reason of certain terrorist attacks,
00:07:04.760 September 14, 2001.
00:07:08.280 Then September 23, blocking property and prohibiting transactions
00:07:12.320 with persons who commit, threaten to commit, or support terrorism.
00:07:16.120 Then blocking property of persons undermining democratic process
00:07:19.540 or institutions in Zimbabwe, March 6, 2003.
00:07:24.440 Then protecting the development fund for Iraq and certain other property
00:07:28.440 in which Iraq has an interest, March 2003.
00:07:32.240 Blocking property of persons and prohibiting the export of certain goods
00:07:36.360 to Syria, May 2004.
00:07:40.080 Blocking property of certain persons undermining democratic processes
00:07:44.060 and institutions in Belarus, June 2006.
00:07:49.180 Also in October 2006, blocking property of certain persons contributing
00:07:53.460 to the conflict of the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
00:07:56.100 Then blocking property of persons undermining the sovereignty of Lebanon
00:08:00.160 and its democratic process and institutions in 2007.
00:08:04.800 Then we have in June 2006, continuing certain restrictions
00:08:10.360 with respect to North Korea and North Korean nationalists.
00:08:14.480 And that is 2008.
00:08:16.840 Now we're into Obama time.
00:08:19.560 Blocking property of certain persons continuing to the conflict in Somalia.
00:08:24.520 Blocking property of certain transactions related to Libya.
00:08:28.480 Blocking property of transnational criminal organizations.
00:08:32.240 Blocking property of persons threatening peace, security, stability in Yemen.
00:08:36.580 Blocking property of certain persons contributing to the situation in Ukraine.
00:08:40.260 That's in 2014.
00:08:41.900 Blocking property of certain persons with respect to South Sudan.
00:08:45.320 In 2014.
00:08:46.560 Blocking the property of certain persons contributing to the conflict
00:08:49.200 in the Central African Republic.
00:08:51.840 Blocking property suspending the entry of certain persons contributing to the situation in Venezuela.
00:08:57.420 Then blocking the property of certain persons engaging in significant malicious cyber-enabled activities.
00:09:03.520 In 2015.
00:09:04.880 And the last one that Obama did.
00:09:07.160 Blocking property of certain persons contributing to the situation in Burundi.
00:09:11.040 That's in 2015.
00:09:12.980 Now what do those all have in common?
00:09:14.740 They're all blocking property and possessions of potential terrorists or newly inflamed hotspots around the globe.
00:09:25.860 None of it would fall under the category of new spending or anything like that.
00:09:31.320 It's all blocking property and that's what it's been used for.
00:09:34.380 Right.
00:09:34.660 It is making sure that people, the bad guys, don't have access to more funds or transfer funds across international borders.
00:09:43.800 Or that we do anything to help the bad guys.
00:09:48.280 That's what the emergency action has been since it was first used in 1979.
00:09:55.000 And I would say too, another thing that I think a lot of those have in common.
00:09:58.640 Not all.
00:09:59.600 Certainly not September 14th, 2001.
00:10:02.040 But most of them I would say are lower on the priority list of American sovereignty and security.
00:10:07.400 Than the border security issue is.
00:10:09.780 Like what's going on in Burundi might be very important and it probably is.
00:10:14.380 But I would not put that on the level of September 11th.
00:10:18.760 September 11th.
00:10:19.500 Or building a wall on our southern border.
00:10:21.740 Right.
00:10:22.260 I mean I think like that doesn't mean that there was no reason to use those things.
00:10:26.420 But you know.
00:10:27.420 So here is the issue.
00:10:30.920 It's not since 2006 that the Americans have said we want a border wall.
00:10:38.340 That's when Congress, including Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, signed into law a border wall.
00:10:46.460 Secure Fence Act of 2006.
00:10:49.020 We signed it in.
00:10:50.860 And everybody in the Senate and Congress tried to convince me.
00:10:54.360 Oh no, Glenn, this time it's real.
00:10:55.840 No, it's not.
00:10:56.940 I mean I knew it wasn't and you knew it wasn't.
00:10:59.180 They had no intention of doing it.
00:11:01.960 They were just placating the American people.
00:11:05.160 But this doesn't start in 2006.
00:11:07.380 The reason why it was popular for Obama and Hillary Clinton to sign it in in 2006 was because we all knew what happened just a few short years ago in 2001.
00:11:19.580 And no one was willing to do anything about it.
00:11:23.220 Our borders, north and south, are trouble.
00:11:27.160 But there's another there's another piece of the puzzle.
00:11:31.580 The overwhelming problem that we have is overstayed visas and they've never fixed that either.
00:11:40.640 That's that was the number one problem on September 11th.
00:11:43.780 That's still the number one problem with terror and a border wall won't have anything to do with that.
00:11:50.740 It won't fix it.
00:11:51.560 But I don't think that's where the American people are.
00:11:54.920 They know that they don't think this is a fix all.
00:11:58.020 They just think this is one box that needs to be checked and no one will ever check it.
00:12:04.280 But if I'm if I'm reading the American people right, the American people know that this is a problem and they're tired of waiting around and being told by one party or the other, we're going to fix that.
00:12:20.500 Because Bill Clinton said he would fix that.
00:12:24.240 Senator Barack Obama said he would fix that.
00:12:28.080 Hillary Clinton said she would fix that.
00:12:30.940 George Bush said he would fix that.
00:12:33.140 No one has fixed that.
00:12:35.700 No one is serious about it except the American people.
00:12:38.980 So tonight, I think people are going to be split in two camps.
00:12:45.540 The Democrats who have been brainwashed that, oh, no, this is just racist.
00:12:50.780 No, it's not.
00:12:53.840 They're going to be against it, even though their leaders signed it in in 2006 when all the rest of the Democrats remembered September 11th.
00:13:03.360 They're going to be brainwashed and they're going to say, no, this is nothing about nothing but race.
00:13:11.340 What does the right say about it?
00:13:14.120 So, Stu, let's look at what.
00:13:19.740 Let's start a pro and con list.
00:13:21.860 The pros, as I see it, is that this would mean that there would be a permanent solution.
00:13:27.700 And I think that's the number one thing that conservatives are looking for.
00:13:30.660 We're tired of having this same battle and being told we're going to take care of it, knowing that they're not going to take care of it.
00:13:37.700 They're not going to be serious about it.
00:13:39.280 And so this provides something that goes beyond this president and it's done.
00:13:45.540 Right.
00:13:46.000 Unless they decide to blow it up or tear it down, which I would put necessarily past the future president.
00:13:50.640 Right.
00:13:51.160 Well, I can see them not repairing it.
00:13:53.920 Just not just let it go to waste.
00:13:56.620 OK, so you have a permanent solution.
00:13:58.820 You have more security.
00:14:01.840 You haven't solved the problem, but you have more security.
00:14:05.200 Definitely improvement.
00:14:06.240 Right.
00:14:06.740 Yes.
00:14:07.420 A move in the right direction, a big move in the right direction.
00:14:10.700 And you have accountability.
00:14:13.880 Right.
00:14:14.840 Accountability.
00:14:15.400 How do you mean that?
00:14:17.440 You have somebody who's willing to say, I'm responsible for this.
00:14:23.640 Sure.
00:14:23.960 Yeah.
00:14:24.220 That's nice to hear occasionally.
00:14:25.800 Right.
00:14:26.400 The buck stops here.
00:14:27.440 That's the one thing that I think both Republicans and Democrats want.
00:14:33.340 Maybe not on the same things, but they want someone to say buck stops here.
00:14:38.760 And that is.
00:14:41.580 That is the real problem with like government shutdowns and things like that is the more we don't believe in the federal government, the more we want someone, anyone just to step in and say, I'll fix it.
00:14:57.720 Because we think these things are common sense.
00:15:00.800 I believe the border wall is common sense.
00:15:04.060 I mean, I want a bigger door.
00:15:05.980 I want more qualified people coming in.
00:15:09.220 I want the best people from all over the world to come in.
00:15:14.160 But I what I don't want are people coming in through the windows and through the side doors that we don't know who's in the house.
00:15:22.600 And I don't want that in any way, shape or form.
00:15:25.960 I don't want that from Sweden. 1.00
00:15:27.500 And I don't want that from Libya. 1.00
00:15:29.820 And I don't want that from Mexico. 1.00
00:15:34.320 Seems like, you know, the basic common sense, common sense when it comes to having a country and having borders.
00:15:40.360 You have to be able to control them if they get out of control.
00:15:43.520 Right.
00:15:43.660 No one's talking about a fence between us and Canada because that is not an out of control border.
00:15:49.040 This one is.
00:15:50.580 And we have to do something to stop it.
00:15:53.160 The fence would would help quite a bit.
00:15:55.500 And they've already let us down after they we've elected them and they've passed bills promising it.
00:16:00.620 OK, including votes from Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
00:16:05.840 This is not a Republican measure very recently.
00:16:08.540 No, it was 2006.
00:16:09.820 And that is that's the thing the president's going to hang his hat on tonight.
00:16:13.260 I think if he does this, he may not do this.
00:16:16.360 I think he's going to.
00:16:17.520 You mean as far as actually saying the state of emergency and shifting funds to pay for the border wall without passing the law?
00:16:23.920 Yes.
00:16:25.300 You think he's going to do it?
00:16:26.420 I do.
00:16:26.920 Do you?
00:16:27.960 If I had to guess, I'd say yes.
00:16:29.340 There's a lot of reporting on it that that's definitely what he's considering.
00:16:32.940 He may also just be threatening it.
00:16:34.740 Right.
00:16:35.120 Like he may be saying, like, look, I'm going to do this either way.
00:16:38.300 You might as well get your DACA and give me the money because I'm going to go do this as a.
00:16:43.800 Yeah.
00:16:43.920 He may give her.
00:16:44.680 He may say you've got seven days.
00:16:47.040 Right.
00:16:47.640 Might put a window or 30 days, whatever it is.
00:16:50.340 Well, because then the shutdown thing is getting to those elevated levels, too, where it's starting to you're already starting to see the reporting about people who who, you know, the tax refunds they've solved in the short term.
00:17:02.360 But you've got the food stamps thing that's right around the corner.
00:17:05.400 There's several different programs that will start becoming major news stories if they don't get this fixed by then.
00:17:10.120 I wonder who's writing this tonight.
00:17:13.400 This really has to be written really, really well.
00:17:16.540 And his his goal is to make people understand the seriousness of the border as a separately from some political issue.
00:17:25.740 Right.
00:17:26.240 His goal is to say to the person who's in the middle who cares about our security, but isn't a partisan or isn't a huge Trump person or whatever to convince them that, hey, you know, you've been hearing all this stuff.
00:17:37.960 And they always say that I'm lying about this.
00:17:39.460 Here are the facts.
00:17:40.720 And this really is a serious situation.
00:17:42.500 And we may need to make it a national emergency.
00:17:45.140 This is the first time that he's done anything from the Oval Office.
00:17:49.620 He has not given a speech behind the Resolute desk in the Oval Office and not an address to the nation.
00:18:00.300 Correct.
00:18:01.300 I don't know.
00:18:02.480 I'm pretty sure.
00:18:03.940 I don't look it up.
00:18:05.520 Marissa, I'm pretty sure that that is.
00:18:07.720 The primetime address.
00:18:08.940 Primetime.
00:18:09.340 This is his first primetime address from behind the Resolute desk.
00:18:13.960 The Resolute desk is generally reserved for really important speeches, you know, milestone kind of speeches to where we're going to war or there's a national emergency or there's something really grave that we need to talk about.
00:18:35.820 Also, it has traditionally been used for the farewell address.
00:18:40.380 Interesting to see the media struggle yesterday with should we even take this?
00:18:43.800 Is this something that we should even take?
00:18:45.620 Yes.
00:18:46.120 First of all, yes.
00:18:47.120 Second of all, if you would have even suggested that under Barack Obama, you would have been a racist for suggesting it.
00:18:52.620 Unbelievable.
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00:19:10.520 Okay, so the only thing that I can think of that is a con on national emergency is it is not unconstitutional.
00:19:20.920 The president has a right to do that.
00:19:23.140 We have 22 national emergencies already running.
00:19:27.360 They just never go away.
00:19:28.780 And there's all sorts of different types of national emergencies as well.
00:19:32.660 I mean, one of the funny things about this is we had a caller last hour saying, well, one of the ways he could do this is because of the opioid thing.
00:19:38.800 I mean, this is a major issue.
00:19:40.160 Well, there is a national health emergency on opioids, a different type of national emergency.
00:19:46.480 But until he actually, he promised to declare a national emergency on opioids, but it took him, Trump, a while to do it.
00:19:55.740 And in that time, the media was constantly complaining that he wasn't starting a national health emergency on opioids.
00:20:02.280 They complained about it constantly until he finally did wind up doing it.
00:20:06.480 Now that the same, it's a related matter on opioids and heroin and these sorts of things.
00:20:12.420 Now that he wants to do a different type of national emergency, it's a very controversial thing.
00:20:16.740 Right.
00:20:17.040 So if he's smart, he will include opioids tonight.
00:20:20.580 He will include MS-13.
00:20:24.840 And he will include the humanitarian crisis that has been caused here recently by people who wish to do our country no good.
00:20:35.340 Also, he should include that we will open up our immigration and make it easier for qualified people to come in.
00:20:46.880 Because I don't think anybody has a problem with immigrants as long as they're here and they're qualified.
00:20:51.600 Right.
00:20:51.820 What we don't want is MS-13.
00:20:53.260 And again, MS-13 gets this political sort of thing.
00:20:56.120 Oh, that's just Donald Trump trying to scare people.
00:20:58.280 To just put this in perspective, MS-13 kills 4.3 times as many people that die in school shootings.
00:21:08.080 In the United States, 4.3 times as many people die at the hands of MS-13 than die in school shootings.
00:21:14.540 And how much do you hear about MS-13?
00:21:17.120 You don't ever hear about it.
00:21:18.040 No, it's just a nonsensical, oh, that's just Donald Trump.
00:21:20.340 He's making things up.
00:21:21.260 MS-13?
00:21:22.060 What are you just letters and numbers?
00:21:23.320 He's just throwing them together?
00:21:24.140 No, it's a very violent gang and they kill a lot of people in the United States.
00:21:28.220 It's a real problem.
00:21:29.620 A real problem.
00:21:30.200 If you think school shootings are a real problem, which we all know the left does.
00:21:34.280 This is four times the size.
00:21:37.000 And the president should include things like that if he's going to make the case.
00:21:40.860 Now, the only downside I can see on this is I don't like the way this is being done.
00:21:45.740 I don't want to set this precedent.
00:21:48.180 I don't want the next president coming in and saying, well, I'll tell you, a national crisis, a national emergency, it's global warming.
00:21:57.300 And here are all the stats.
00:21:59.340 Because they will.
00:22:00.660 Yeah, the idea behind a national emergency is to take things that aren't partisan issues.
00:22:05.620 We all know that Iran is a big problem and we need to stop their funding. 1.00
00:22:11.700 That was the first time it was used.
00:22:13.080 Again, during the hostage crisis.
00:22:15.260 September 11th, right after that, we all know, we're all on the same page.
00:22:18.880 The votes are all, you know, 100 to 0 on issues related to that.
00:22:22.960 This is one where, obviously, Republicans want it to happen.
00:22:25.620 Democrats don't.
00:22:27.680 But tell me the thing that isn't partisan now.
00:22:31.020 Because you could say.
00:22:31.940 It's usually only in emergency situations.
00:22:33.800 But again, that's why there's a national emergency part of this, right?
00:22:37.280 But isn't part of the national emergency.
00:22:38.780 Look, I'm not making a case for this because I don't think this is the right way to do it.
00:22:42.240 But I'm going to play devil's advocate because there is no other way to do this anymore.
00:22:47.560 Any other way to do it has been destroyed because we've made everything partisan.
00:22:52.960 When you said, well, we should know.
00:22:55.320 Well, we all did.
00:22:57.360 We all knew that in 2006, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton signed the wall into law.
00:23:06.880 It passed 80 to 19, by the way, in the Senate.
00:23:09.020 Okay, so it wasn't a partisan issue.
00:23:10.880 It just is now.
00:23:12.840 Yep.
00:23:14.000 Climate change should not be a partisan issue.
00:23:17.520 But it is a partisan issue.
00:23:18.820 It is a partisan issue.
00:23:19.580 At least it's how you deal with it, right?
00:23:21.400 Yes.
00:23:21.880 And they will say the same thing.
00:23:23.500 This is not supposed to be a partisan issue.
00:23:25.640 And we should pass.
00:23:27.220 It's a national state of emergency on the climate.
00:23:29.460 And we can do X, Y, and Z.
00:23:30.660 They've tried it.
00:23:31.520 I mean, this is how a lot of times the EPA has tried to control emissions and put new standards on.
00:23:37.160 Which are things that, you know, I've fought against the entire time because I believe those are completely unconstitutional.
00:23:42.920 This one would not be.
00:23:44.280 It's allowed through the law.
00:23:46.240 It would be, not only would it not be unconstitutional, it would be completely legal as far as I can tell.
00:23:51.020 It's just a new way of using this.
00:23:52.980 It does seem to be an expanded use of this power, which, you know, I don't want that ever.
00:23:58.740 I don't ever want to be on the air telling you that the government is getting more power to do something because they already have enough.
00:24:08.000 They already have a lot of power.
00:24:09.280 And the reason, you know, these things are hard to do.
00:24:12.100 To pass a border wall is going to be hard to do.
00:24:15.280 And that is sort of built into our system.
00:24:19.220 What's really crazy is we went to the moon in the 1960s when we didn't have the technology.
00:24:24.840 We didn't have the technology.
00:24:26.840 And we said we have to do this.
00:24:28.580 Not because it's easy, but because it's hard.
00:24:31.240 We don't need any technology.
00:24:33.180 We don't need to do anything groundbreaking.
00:24:34.440 Defense technology has been around for a while.
00:24:35.580 It's been around for, you know, forever.
00:24:37.620 Yeah.
00:24:39.280 Look at it.
00:24:40.320 It's hard to do.
00:24:42.000 No, hard to do was go to the moon in 1969.
00:24:45.640 That was hard to do.
00:24:47.240 Getting together and putting a fence or a wall up to stop people from coming in across our border. 0.62
00:24:53.680 That's not hard.
00:24:55.180 It's just people unwilling to do it.
00:24:59.520 Yeah.
00:25:00.060 I mean, I just, you know, we all, if this was the way that this could have been done, we wouldn't have needed to have a conversation about laws for the past two years.
00:25:09.120 Right.
00:25:09.520 I think everyone realized for the past two years, including the administration, that this was not the way to do this.
00:25:14.460 The same way, by the way, that Barack Obama had the conversation about DACA.
00:25:17.900 And they said, we can't do this.
00:25:19.220 We got to pass a law.
00:25:20.340 And then they came up with another way around it.
00:25:22.020 This one is a little bit different.
00:25:23.320 I think it's better than the DACA thing.
00:25:24.840 There's no question about it.
00:25:25.780 But it makes me a little uneasy, doesn't it?
00:25:28.020 Let's look at it this way.
00:25:29.300 The only reason why we have Donald Trump, the thing that Donald Trump really connected, because remember, he wasn't connecting at the beginning until he got onto the border wall.
00:25:40.900 When he started on the border wall, that was his, in his first opening speech, that was like 19th on his list.
00:25:46.460 Yeah.
00:25:46.680 It was not a high priority in that speech.
00:25:48.360 People forget that.
00:25:49.140 The whole, you know, Mexican rapist thing that he got beat up on so much.
00:25:52.360 That was like, I want to say it was like two or 3% of his speech.
00:25:55.920 It was not something he focused on at all.
00:25:57.840 So as soon as he started to get onto that, that's when he really took off.
00:26:01.420 So let me just, let me just posit this, this little thought here that perhaps because the Democrats refused to deal with what they said they would do in 2008, and they agreed that we needed a wall, but then for some political reason or some other reason that never has been vocalized, they decided not to build the wall.
00:26:27.280 That's the reason why we have Donald Trump as president.
00:26:32.860 Because politicians refused to do exactly not what they said they were going to do, but what they wrote a bill and signed on to do.
00:26:43.220 They passed a law that said, shall be built, and they never did it.
00:26:49.800 So if you're looking for an ultimate reason why Donald Trump, how could Donald Trump be our president?
00:26:54.420 Well, there it is.
00:26:55.660 Yeah, it's stuff like that.
00:26:56.760 Yeah.
00:26:57.020 And the Republicans and the Democrats failed to build a wall that they passed a law.
00:27:02.560 Well, it's amazing.
00:27:04.060 But I mean, Trump, one thing about Trump in these moments is he doesn't like being on defense, right?
00:27:09.140 So this is a way for him to turn it to being on offense.
00:27:12.100 I've got something I can use and I will use it.
00:27:13.980 I think there's a good chance that he says tonight, you've got two weeks to hammer this out or I'm going to use this.
00:27:21.160 So that puts him on the offensive.
00:27:24.460 You know, again, it makes me uneasy, that sort of power.
00:27:27.180 But still, it is an understandable thing that, I mean, because the basic thing behind it, everybody agrees with, at least in this audience.
00:27:34.780 I think most people on the conservative side, which is this is a real problem.
00:27:39.240 People are ignoring it.
00:27:40.260 We need this thing built.
00:27:41.440 Figure out a way to do it.
00:27:42.840 And that is a completely logical way to think.
00:27:45.240 We just have to make sure we don't cross some barrier.
00:27:47.420 We're going to get burned by it later.
00:27:49.000 Correct.
00:27:49.020 Left to them, their own devices, the American people would solve this problem.
00:27:54.140 Oh, yeah.
00:27:54.600 We would solve it.
00:27:58.220 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:28:10.880 I also, because it's a new year, I really want to focus on the big issues.
00:28:16.680 And I was overwhelmed during the holiday with the number of people that wrote in and said how close they were to giving up, how they had wrestled with depression, how they had been wrestling with alcoholism, and how they had a new commitment to continue another day.
00:28:45.280 And sometimes we forget about how alone people can feel.
00:28:51.640 And it's because we don't talk about these things, because we kind of bury them, and they are kind of first principles.
00:28:59.380 They're the things that we should be talking about with each other.
00:29:02.320 We should be looking out for one another.
00:29:05.200 But sometimes these things make us uncomfortable, and you don't know what to say.
00:29:09.560 Anyway, I know this is true for me in many cases with veterans, because I hold them in such high regard.
00:29:21.260 And I don't necessarily, I just don't necessarily know what I would do in their situation.
00:29:32.840 And it causes me sometimes to not say anything.
00:29:41.080 One of the biggest regrets in my life, I am good friends with Chris Kyle's wife, but I was not friends with Chris, because I stood at a charity fundraiser, shoulder to shoulder with him.
00:29:54.480 And I only shook his hand and thanked him for his service, I didn't even talk to him, because I was so intimidated.
00:30:05.540 Our soldiers are going through real tough times, but it's those who refuse to give up that make the difference.
00:30:13.060 Our partners at StoryCorps have a great story to tell.
00:30:18.680 Between a Marine Corporal, Zach Skiles, he was deployed to Iraq in 2003.
00:30:26.440 He was there at the beginning of the invasion.
00:30:29.520 While serving on the front lines, he lost five friends within a two-week period.
00:30:34.880 And when he came home, he had a hard time adjusting.
00:30:38.420 He had a hard time holding down a job.
00:30:40.220 He found himself homeless.
00:30:41.440 So StoryCorps sat down with him and his father, Scott, to talk about the difficulties that he faced during the war and how he got back on his feet.
00:30:52.640 This is an amazing story.
00:30:54.440 Listen.
00:30:55.020 I remember saying to you, every gift that I've been given, I don't have a better one than to be your dad.
00:31:02.260 And I remember you smiling, saying, I love you too, dad.
00:31:05.280 And then you got out of the car and went to war.
00:31:07.740 So what was life like after you came home?
00:31:11.860 I was pretty sure someone was going to kick down my door.
00:31:14.960 And I was scared to go to sleep.
00:31:19.240 I couldn't sustain employment.
00:31:23.640 I couldn't pay rent and pay for groceries.
00:31:27.040 It all just kind of fell apart.
00:31:29.620 And then I was homeless.
00:31:33.840 The crazy thing was that I didn't think that there was anything super wrong.
00:31:38.380 In the nighttime, I stayed on coastal trails and hiking trails.
00:31:43.660 And in the daytime, I could just pass out at a park.
00:31:47.320 There was a time period where I didn't know where you were.
00:31:50.100 And it is difficult to watch anyone let go of hope.
00:31:56.540 But when it's your son, it's excruciating.
00:32:01.120 I remember great relief that you decided to go into inpatient treatment.
00:32:07.180 And I remember one night you getting out of the car to walk back into the treatment building.
00:32:12.540 And it was dark and your head was kind of down.
00:32:16.640 And for a moment, I could feel the weight you were carrying.
00:32:22.440 As I watched you walk into that building, I uttered these two words that,
00:32:26.520 I don't know if they were some kind of prayer or not, but they just came out,
00:32:30.500 my son.
00:32:32.480 And I was absolutely overcome with grief and love and the beginning of hope.
00:32:42.540 What is life like for you now?
00:32:45.380 It's pretty cool.
00:32:46.980 You graduated undergrad?
00:32:48.920 Yes.
00:32:49.720 I heard summa cum laude.
00:32:52.460 I'm just asking.
00:32:53.700 That's what I heard.
00:32:55.280 Yeah.
00:32:56.600 I remember my dad saying this to me, and I feel it is so true between you and I.
00:33:03.240 It is your life, so you have the last word.
00:33:07.280 But then as your dad, that gives me the second to the last word.
00:33:10.300 And the second to the last word is, I believe in you and I'm on your side.
00:33:17.100 There's a powerful thing I learned from somebody who had been kept as a sex slave in Mexico.
00:33:31.040 She had literally, she had chained scars around her neck, scars all over her back,
00:33:37.380 where she had been beaten and burned and chained for a couple of years.
00:33:43.060 I was recording something with her, and I said,
00:33:48.240 I want you to say, hi, my name is so-and-so, and I used to be a slave.
00:33:55.340 And she said, no, I won't say that.
00:33:58.580 And I said, okay, why?
00:34:01.500 And she said, because I never considered myself a slave.
00:34:04.880 They may have chained me, but I never considered myself a slave.
00:34:11.340 Our lives are a blank piece of paper, and we are the only authors of it.
00:34:18.060 If someone else is authoring it, or if you don't like the way the story is going,
00:34:23.560 open a new page and start again.
00:34:26.160 It sounds ridiculous because it's too easy, but it's true. 0.99
00:34:33.000 Dave Issey from StoryCorps is with us now.
00:34:36.460 Dave, can you give me an update on Zach?
00:34:41.620 Glenn, happy New Year.
00:34:43.060 It's great to talk to you.
00:34:45.400 Well, Zach is getting his Ph.D. now in psychology.
00:34:50.600 And I will say, this was the first time, as you know, a StoryCorps interview is two people
00:34:55.860 who care about one another coming to have a conversation.
00:34:59.440 And we've had a dozen big special initiatives through the years.
00:35:02.860 And this one is part of the Military Voices Initiative, focusing on the voices of post-9-11
00:35:08.760 vets and their families.
00:35:11.700 The first time they ever had this conversation, first time they ever talked about what happened
00:35:15.760 to Zach in Iraq.
00:35:18.820 And I met, so I don't get a chance to meet a lot of the participants in StoryCorps.
00:35:24.920 We've had half a million people who participate.
00:35:27.300 But when I'm giving a talk, sometimes people from stories will come to the talk.
00:35:35.880 And Zach's dad, Scott, came to a talk a little while ago.
00:35:39.380 And this goes back a little bit to what you were saying about the woman who you had interviewed,
00:35:46.020 who was a sex slave. 0.88
00:35:47.240 And it reminded me of that Mandela quote where he said, Nelson Mandela, they can chain my
00:35:52.480 body, but they can't, they can't chain my soul.
00:35:54.820 But Zach's dad, Scott, after I played a story, handed me just a very brief quote, which stuck
00:36:03.580 with me.
00:36:04.220 And it just said, here is the world, beautiful and terrible things will happen.
00:36:09.340 Don't be afraid.
00:36:10.040 So how can people get involved in your new initiative, One Small Step?
00:36:17.060 This is trying to bring people together that maybe don't see the world politically the same
00:36:23.200 way, but you're preserving the voices of people who are very, very different from one another,
00:36:29.140 but can find common ground.
00:36:31.580 How do people get involved in that?
00:36:34.380 So we have, you can come to our website at storycore, S-T-O-R-Y-C-O-R-P-S dot org, backslash
00:36:41.400 one small step, which is one word.
00:36:44.280 And you described exactly what we're trying to do.
00:36:46.780 We've had half a million people who know and love each other, like Zach and Scott, come
00:36:50.700 to storycore.
00:36:51.460 And now we're working to put people on opposite sides of the political divide together, just
00:36:56.460 to not to talk about politics, just to remember that someone you disagree with is also a human
00:37:03.120 being.
00:37:03.660 Have you started it yet?
00:37:06.300 I mean, have you actually started to record these yet?
00:37:08.660 Oh, yes, we have.
00:37:09.880 And it's, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's kind of addictive.
00:37:13.260 It's a beautiful thing to see.
00:37:15.280 And, and none of it will surprise you.
00:37:17.520 Um, you know, it, it brings out kind of the opposite impulses of social media.
00:37:22.380 When you do a story core interview, uh, each of those interviews go is, goes to the library
00:37:27.120 of Congress.
00:37:27.600 So your great, great, great, great, great grandkids can hear the voice of your grandmother or your
00:37:32.940 friend, whoever you're talking to your voice.
00:37:34.940 And unlike social media, which is so disposable, you know, story core is the ultimate kind of
00:37:39.800 long game, right?
00:37:40.640 So when you come to a story core booth and you're talking to someone across the political
00:37:44.560 divides, you know, that your great, great, great grandkids are going to listen to this
00:37:48.040 someday.
00:37:48.520 So you really are your kind of best highest self.
00:37:51.480 Yeah.
00:37:51.760 Um, so it's, it's just a, it's a beautiful thing to see.
00:37:54.860 And, and, you know, I think that it's, it's enough already, right.
00:37:59.500 In the country with what's going on.
00:38:01.420 And it's, it's, it's, it's just an existential crisis.
00:38:04.980 It's dangerous.
00:38:05.760 And we've forgotten that we belong to one another.
00:38:08.100 I can't wait to hear some of those voices that you're collecting.
00:38:11.060 If you want to be a part of this, go to story core, C O R P S story core.org slash one small 0.99
00:38:18.220 step.
00:38:18.920 Uh, and that is again, one, uh, one word.
00:38:21.180 Dave, thank you so much.
00:38:22.300 We'll talk to you again.
00:38:22.940 It's great to talk to you.
00:38:23.720 Talk to you soon.
00:38:24.300 You bet.
00:38:24.600 Bye-bye.
00:38:30.080 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:38:41.060 So it's early in the morning up at the ranch and my whole family and my grandkids and everybody's
00:38:50.180 around and, uh, uh, I walk out into the main room and I said, everybody, we have to say
00:39:00.220 a prayer, uh, and everybody on your knees.
00:39:03.760 And, uh, my family just looked at me and, uh, I said, Jeffy has just had a heart attack
00:39:11.360 and it's a big one.
00:39:13.340 And by the end of the prayer, most of us were in tears, um, because we just love him dearly.
00:39:21.500 And, uh, we were greatly concerned about you, Jeffy.
00:39:26.000 Thank you.
00:39:28.260 The support, the overwhelming support between coworkers and, uh, listeners and viewers of
00:39:34.120 this network was unbelievable.
00:39:37.260 And, uh, you know, proof that, uh, you know, well wishes and thoughts and prayers work.
00:39:41.440 Yeah.
00:39:42.600 So tell me what it was like that morning.
00:39:44.840 You got up in the morning and Amber told me you were sitting on the edge of the bed.
00:39:48.640 Oh yeah.
00:39:49.200 Uh, sitting on the edge of the bed and the pain in my chest was not going away.
00:39:53.140 Um, back up a couple of days.
00:39:55.520 Yeah.
00:39:55.720 How many days of pain did you ignore before you were sitting on the bed and wondering
00:40:00.900 whether you should go to the hospital?
00:40:01.780 A couple that I remember.
00:40:03.640 So for two days you were having heart pain.
00:40:05.780 Well, a little bit when it went away.
00:40:08.520 So it's just, I know that you told me.
00:40:11.420 Oh yeah.
00:40:12.040 It's going away.
00:40:12.840 Okay.
00:40:13.020 You're fine.
00:40:13.480 And then you just move on.
00:40:14.360 You don't have just, uh, you're fine.
00:40:17.560 Uh huh.
00:40:17.880 You convince yourself that it's not a pain.
00:40:20.760 Is it a pain like you've ever felt before?
00:40:22.800 Not really.
00:40:23.340 I mean, you, you really honestly looking back on it, it was dumb not to do something,
00:40:27.880 uh, dumb not to go see somebody about it because, uh, you realize that that's not right.
00:40:34.540 You know, that's just not, that's not the pain of hurting yourself while you sleep.
00:40:39.220 It's not the pain of indigestion or heartburn.
00:40:42.500 Right.
00:40:42.780 And so the morning of the, um, the pain that would not stop, uh, it just doesn't stop.
00:40:49.780 There's no way you just, I mean, it, it starts in your chest and it stays there and continues
00:40:54.600 down your arms.
00:40:55.460 And I didn't have so much of that.
00:40:56.720 It was more just a complete pressure on my chest.
00:41:00.980 Um, nonstop pain all over, you know, the entire chest.
00:41:04.620 Um, so Amber said, you know, you feel nauseous and like you're going to throw up and that's
00:41:10.280 some profuse sweating.
00:41:11.700 I understand.
00:41:12.420 Absolutely.
00:41:12.980 Big time sweating more than usual.
00:41:14.600 Right.
00:41:14.920 Yeah.
00:41:15.240 That was, was, I'm surprised your family didn't drown.
00:41:18.800 If it was more than usual, I'm surprised that the lifeguard wasn't called out.
00:41:23.680 The shirt was still, I believe the shirt was still sopped after a couple of days.
00:41:27.120 So, um, uh, you told Amber not to call the first time.
00:41:35.660 Yeah.
00:41:35.760 Don't, don't worry about it.
00:41:36.680 I'll be fine.
00:41:37.140 I'll just see if it goes away.
00:41:38.660 And then the last, um, the last no was more of a no yes call.
00:41:46.280 Yeah.
00:41:46.820 You know, it was no.
00:41:47.640 Oh, wow.
00:41:48.160 So no means yes to you.
00:41:49.760 Okay.
00:41:50.180 We're learning an awful lot.
00:41:51.300 I've believed in that forever.
00:41:52.620 I think you know that.
00:41:53.700 So, uh, so she said that your pulse had gotten down to, I think 45, whatever.
00:42:01.540 I mean, it was down to nothing.
00:42:02.900 Yeah.
00:42:03.440 I mean, it was really bad.
00:42:04.380 And she said it stopped a few times.
00:42:05.960 I believe that.
00:42:06.840 I believe that.
00:42:07.340 And in transit, uh, you know, once they, uh, you know, once we called nine one one and,
00:42:12.460 and the, um, you know, rescue fire rescue and the ambulance people were all there within,
00:42:17.880 I don't know, five minutes, maybe.
00:42:20.160 I don't know how long it took them to get there.
00:42:21.440 I know that we live in some strange area that it took three transfers on, on nine one one
00:42:26.360 to get to the right nine one one for my wife. 0.99
00:42:28.620 So she was freaking out.
00:42:30.260 And I know that it probably was pretty fast.
00:42:32.420 Yeah.
00:42:32.860 Uh, but right.
00:42:34.760 You know, when you call nine one one, it's like, you want something now and Oh, hold on.
00:42:39.380 I'm going to transfer you.
00:42:40.320 Hold transfer you.
00:42:41.820 Please hold screaming at the phone, but they, you know, relatively fast.
00:42:45.880 And then, uh, in transit, uh, from my home to the, to the hospital, I apparently went
00:42:52.880 off the deep end farther, um, close to the end.
00:42:56.980 And then I, once we got to the hospital, you remember it.
00:43:00.320 I remember leaving the neighborhood.
00:43:01.700 I remember looking, I remember looking out the window saying, Oh, this is the way they're
00:43:05.340 leaving the neighborhood.
00:43:06.080 And then I remember going into the hospital.
00:43:09.140 I remember them banging on the door of the ER because the ER door wouldn't open.
00:43:13.520 I remember that.
00:43:14.800 I remember that with the fire rescue going, Hey, to be fair though, a lot of businesses
00:43:19.380 have rules to not open the door for you.
00:43:21.860 Yeah.
00:43:22.080 So that's just, I believe there's a restraining order here.
00:43:26.200 This is very possible.
00:43:27.540 Right.
00:43:27.820 And so you didn't go into the normal ER situation, right?
00:43:30.280 I did not.
00:43:30.720 We went, went straight into surgery, right?
00:43:32.720 Straight into the cath lab for a heart surgery restraint.
00:43:35.740 I mean, I didn't, to be honest, um, but I haven't seen paperwork or a bill or nothing.
00:43:43.100 Oh, it's not coming.
00:43:43.860 Don't worry.
00:43:44.260 Everything's going to be fine.
00:43:45.020 I mean, no, it's coming.
00:43:46.240 Oh, it's coming.
00:43:47.140 I know there's going to end up at the front door, you know, and then probably giant bags
00:43:50.560 of papers.
00:43:51.020 That's the first thing.
00:43:51.500 When I heard that was the first thing we called HR to make sure that you did not have
00:43:57.300 any problem with paperwork.
00:43:58.820 I can't imagine you would never stand there with paperwork.
00:44:01.660 Like, so, but it's coming.
00:44:03.360 Oh, you're okay.
00:44:03.600 That's fine.
00:44:03.880 I believe that.
00:44:04.480 But I'm just saying it was amazing.
00:44:05.840 Yeah.
00:44:06.020 It was, uh, I mean, there was nothing, you know, I mean, it would straight in and right
00:44:09.240 to the, uh, right to the surgery.
00:44:11.740 And, uh, they had, uh, one, one on the left side was a hundred percent blocked.
00:44:17.900 That's the widow maker, uh, as they call it.
00:44:21.280 And apparently there's a reason they call that the widow maker.
00:44:23.640 It goes, when it gets a hundred percent blocked, you die.
00:44:26.520 Um, and if it's not attended too fast enough, right?
00:44:29.340 I mean, if you don't get to it in time, uh, if, if someone, you know, believes that no
00:44:34.780 means no in your world and doesn't call nine one one, uh, you're dead.
00:44:38.940 Right.
00:44:39.360 I mean, that's as simple as that.
00:44:40.820 They got there in time to fix it.
00:44:42.400 Your life flashed in front of your eyes.
00:44:44.020 Not really.
00:44:44.880 Did you, I was telling, that's what's so funny.
00:44:46.340 I was telling you, I remember Pat reminded me this morning when he, when he came to the
00:44:50.500 hospital is that, um, I don't remember ever thinking this was it that didn't flash between
00:44:57.020 me and I don't remember.
00:44:57.880 I, I didn't think, I didn't ever think, oh, this is it.
00:45:00.320 I'm going to die.
00:45:01.400 I never thought that.
00:45:03.200 Is that just your general?
00:45:04.440 I wonder if that's why you are alive.
00:45:06.640 I wonder if that, whatever it is in you that made you not think that is what helped you
00:45:14.600 carry on.
00:45:15.360 It's very possible.
00:45:16.100 I mean, I, I never thought that.
00:45:17.480 I mean, I, I obviously, you know, I mean, it's scary and you're having a heart attack and
00:45:20.900 I'm, you know, kind of freaking out and going through whatever you go through when you have
00:45:24.300 the heart attack and the chest is hurting and I just want it to stop and I want it to
00:45:27.820 be fixed, but I never thought, oh, this is it.
00:45:30.100 I'm never going to see anybody again.
00:45:31.940 So let's get this over with.
00:45:33.120 One of the things you, we talked, uh, at your place, uh, the past weekend you mentioned,
00:45:39.720 which I thought was really interesting was it's kind of like they brought you in and
00:45:43.760 they did their job and cleared out the problems and then you're kind of like, they kind of
00:45:48.600 reset it.
00:45:49.300 You're like, if they had just known, let's say two weeks earlier that you had this blockage,
00:45:53.580 you would have still had the surgery, but you wouldn't have had the heart attack.
00:45:57.060 Um, and you would be back.
00:45:58.500 I mean, you were, this is, remember this happened, what, 10 days ago, 12, two weeks ago,
00:46:02.720 something like that.
00:46:03.420 And here you are, you're back at work.
00:46:04.900 We're, we're, we're from the generation.
00:46:07.240 We're probably the last generation where something like this, you don't come back.
00:46:11.520 Knocks you out.
00:46:12.320 You're done.
00:46:13.380 You're done.
00:46:14.060 You would have had double bypass surgery.
00:46:16.940 Yeah.
00:46:17.520 Double, double bypass surgery was like, that was crazy.
00:46:20.920 And that's last resort stuff now.
00:46:22.900 I mean, I don't even, you know, I don't even think they do it.
00:46:24.980 Do they?
00:46:25.460 I think they do.
00:46:26.440 I think they, they break your chest open once in a while.
00:46:28.300 If you need it in particular cases, what a new one, but yes, yeah, I guess so.
00:46:33.640 Yeah.
00:46:33.820 If they were, if they're going to put in a, like that, I had a stent put in, uh, the one
00:46:38.020 valve and the other valve they cleaned out.
00:46:40.700 And I learned yesterday that they left a couple of valves on the other side of my heart that
00:46:45.280 were like 30 or 40% block.
00:46:47.100 They're going to leave those because they'll look, they'll clean themselves out. 0.84
00:46:49.640 Now you'd be fine.
00:46:51.160 Well, they'll clean themselves, clean themselves out.
00:46:53.140 Now with the new medication, scrubbing bubbles in there. 0.97
00:46:55.460 Yes, they did.
00:46:56.440 I have, that's the medication I have now is scrubbing bubbles and it's just doing its
00:47:00.720 work.
00:47:00.980 Right.
00:47:01.420 Right.
00:47:01.540 I mean, it's apparently, you know, it's a, they have me on some kind of, I mean, blood
00:47:04.560 thinner.
00:47:04.900 I can't, a mosquito bites me.
00:47:06.380 I'm dead.
00:47:07.340 You know, don't cut yourself.
00:47:08.980 Don't cut yourself.
00:47:10.320 Um, but, uh, yeah, that's, that's it.
00:47:12.780 They said that that's, I don't, that'll clean it out now that we've got the other sides
00:47:15.800 working.
00:47:16.060 Good.
00:47:16.600 Good.
00:47:17.700 Okay.
00:47:18.220 All right.
00:47:18.600 So now how far medicine has come.
00:47:20.120 I mean, it's amazing.
00:47:21.200 It's amazing.
00:47:21.680 I mean, Ray Kurzweil said, Glenn, just stay alive until third, 2030, then you'll never
00:47:27.620 die.
00:47:28.980 I mean, that's not if I want that either.
00:47:31.300 To be honest, I don't want that either, but I mean, that's, that's, I mean, that's how
00:47:35.320 far medicine is going to go.
00:47:37.640 Uh, and we're just at this steep, steep curve.
00:47:40.520 Uh, we'll come back and talk about changes now and changes that our wives are now yelling 1.00
00:47:48.280 at us about because of you.
00:47:50.180 Uh, yeah.
00:47:51.680 So we were up in the mountains until, uh, Sunday and, uh, this happened what day?
00:47:59.480 I don't know, the 28th.
00:48:00.480 What is that?
00:48:00.780 A Thursday or Friday?
00:48:01.760 Yeah.
00:48:01.960 Something like that.
00:48:02.800 Um, and, uh, had to drive down.
00:48:05.480 We just got a text message.
00:48:06.720 We can get text messages, but I can't make any phone calls up in the mountains.
00:48:09.940 So I had to drive 20 minutes freaking out.
00:48:13.280 Um, and, uh, I called Amber right away and then I called, uh, Pat and Stu and Pat ended
00:48:22.120 or Stu ended the conversation with.
00:48:25.660 Uh, basically it's different when someone who's like a peer, a friend, this happens to it.
00:48:31.780 It changes the way you think about the life.
00:48:35.080 I don't know how much longer we can do this to our bodies, but that's exactly what he said.
00:48:39.300 We can't do this to our bodies anymore.
00:48:41.420 We're not young anymore.
00:48:42.160 Very disappointing.
00:48:42.780 I'd just like to apologize.
00:48:44.000 Yeah.
00:48:44.240 Yeah.
00:48:44.500 I'd like to apologize to you.
00:48:46.960 Thank you.
00:48:47.780 Not to Stu, but I'll apologize.
00:48:49.540 No, no, no.
00:48:50.300 And actually, Jeffy, it's good.
00:48:51.820 I've got to lose 50 pounds.
00:48:53.140 Um, what did the doctor say to you?
00:48:56.000 They are, uh, you know, they obviously, you know, they lose weight and eat right and get,
00:49:00.980 get, you know, exercise and get right and get your heart stronger.
00:49:03.860 We're all, you know, we're in the way you're saying the right place.
00:49:06.840 It sounds like you're not really shot across the bow is a warning.
00:49:11.600 It's all good.
00:49:12.440 Right.
00:49:12.660 We could do something about it, but they really were most concerned about.
00:49:15.280 There was another, you know, thing that I involved myself in over the years that you're
00:49:22.660 not narrowing it down when it comes to you.
00:49:25.540 They were most concerned with the smoking.
00:49:28.120 And that's a habit you picked back up, right?
00:49:30.260 Yeah.
00:49:30.520 I mean, I put off.
00:49:32.060 I know, I know, I know.
00:49:33.760 Nobody smokes around me.
00:49:35.220 I didn't know you had started smoking again.
00:49:37.920 And it's just, and so that's what they're most concerned with is that the smoking, stop
00:49:43.440 the smoking.
00:49:44.200 100%.
00:49:44.560 You can put a patch on, you can chew, don't smoke, don't vape, don't do none of it.
00:49:48.900 No smoking.
00:49:49.620 So you're done with the smoking.
00:49:51.500 Have you actually stopped?
00:49:52.380 Yeah.
00:49:53.000 No vaping, too.
00:49:54.320 Vaping is supposedly.
00:49:54.980 They made a point of that.
00:49:55.940 They made a point of that.
00:49:56.860 I know Stu and I talked about this the other day about the vaping because I don't know that
00:50:00.960 they know anything for sure.
00:50:02.920 I don't know that there's any actual deep studies that prove that.
00:50:06.600 I think the science on it, honestly, is pretty favorable towards vaping as far as a replacement.
00:50:11.140 I mean, it's much lower on the risk sort of scale.
00:50:14.260 But again, that doesn't mean a person who just had a heart attack should take it up.
00:50:17.520 I think if you could stop, it's better.
00:50:19.620 I mean, I think.
00:50:20.160 I think that's where they're at, right?
00:50:21.040 Yeah, a lot of these companies talk about that in that, like, this is a way to stop.
00:50:23.860 It's not necessarily something.
00:50:24.780 It's certainly not something you should just start from scratch.
00:50:27.360 Like, if you're not smoking, don't start vaping.
00:50:29.420 But if you are smoking, vaping is probably better.
00:50:31.580 Maybe vaping will help.
00:50:32.040 Though for you, coming out of a massive heart attack, perhaps zero smoking of any sort is
00:50:37.520 a good idea.
00:50:37.720 Zero smoking of any.
00:50:38.760 You should not even go to Los Angeles.
00:50:40.940 Right.
00:50:42.080 That's pretty much it.
00:50:43.140 Yeah.
00:50:44.140 Which, you know, kills the rave parties that I've been going to.
00:50:46.480 Oh, I know.
00:50:47.320 I know.
00:50:47.560 That's only second hand smoke.
00:50:48.140 So nothing about the cocaine and the heroin.
00:50:50.160 They did talk a little bit about supplements at one point yesterday with the heart doc.
00:50:55.580 The heart doc did point out a few things about some of the supplements, but that's about
00:50:59.280 it.
00:50:59.620 I'm dying to ask about this.
00:51:01.420 Yeah.
00:51:01.880 What are the supplements?
00:51:03.520 I mean, vitamins.
00:51:04.720 Glenn, vitamins are supplements.
00:51:06.220 Vitamins.
00:51:06.700 So he's taking some shady products.
00:51:09.060 Shady vitamins.
00:51:09.940 Like vitamins.
00:51:09.980 Like vitamins.
00:51:10.000 Made in Mongolia. 0.72
00:51:10.880 Yeah.
00:51:11.380 He's taking like rhino horn.
00:51:14.480 No, those are illegal.
00:51:15.840 Yeah.
00:51:17.480 So did they, I mean, you know, we've occasionally mentioned on this program before, your weight.
00:51:25.000 You've mentioned that?
00:51:26.140 Yeah.
00:51:26.320 I think once or twice.
00:51:27.240 If people, long time listeners may have remembered this.
00:51:29.360 Now we have.
00:51:30.300 This show?
00:51:30.720 Yeah.
00:51:31.000 On this show.
00:51:31.600 Huh.
00:51:32.060 Did they say to you like, hey.
00:51:33.820 Now your wife notoriously likes fat men, which at the Christmas wine, at the Christmas party. 1.00
00:51:42.520 Do you know what she said?
00:51:44.600 Do you know what she said?
00:51:45.420 No, I don't.
00:51:46.020 She came up to me and she said, you are looking great.
00:51:49.160 I was immediately like, I have got to lose weight.
00:51:54.280 Okay.
00:51:55.080 Wow.
00:51:55.760 Yeah.
00:51:56.360 That's the moment.
00:51:57.500 You were looking great.
00:51:58.540 She didn't really mean that.
00:51:59.420 Yeah.
00:52:00.060 She did not really mean that.
00:52:01.920 Yeah.
00:52:02.200 So I thought, wow, I am as big as a house.
00:52:06.480 I've got to stop.
00:52:08.080 So, but she likes her men plump. 1.00
00:52:10.480 And she does.
00:52:11.000 And she's a, you know, she's a fan of starting to eat right and do things right now. 0.97
00:52:16.480 You know, health wise.
00:52:17.620 But she is also a notoriously good cook of all the things you should not have. 1.00
00:52:23.380 I know.
00:52:24.260 So is that stopping?
00:52:25.160 Are you going to make a change in this realm?
00:52:26.640 I already have, Stu.
00:52:27.920 Oh my gosh.
00:52:28.580 Look at that.
00:52:29.120 He is going to die.
00:52:30.240 He'd rather die than stop eating Twinkies.
00:52:33.240 That's what we're seeing.
00:52:34.680 I'm making, I'm going to lose 50 pounds this year.
00:52:38.280 You're going to lose 50 pounds this year.
00:52:39.820 I'm going to lose 50 pounds.
00:52:41.440 Good.
00:52:41.840 I mean, that's, it's important.
00:52:43.240 Want to join me?
00:52:44.180 Oh, Glenn.
00:52:45.200 Are we out of time?
00:52:46.840 Wow.
00:52:47.740 Of course I'm going to, I'll lose it.
00:52:49.400 It's easy.
00:52:50.120 50 pounds.
00:52:50.620 I can do 50 pounds.
00:52:52.080 How much weight should you?
00:52:53.100 How much, how much?
00:52:54.340 Because you were, you were really, you were really svelte for a while.
00:52:58.900 Yeah.
00:52:59.000 You lost what?
00:52:59.540 Over 100 pounds.
00:53:00.240 Over 100 pounds.
00:53:00.980 Yeah.
00:53:01.220 And then I gained about 75, 80 back.
00:53:03.800 So after you gained how much?
00:53:08.240 See, you know, once in a while there's fat jokes.
00:53:10.520 Right.
00:53:11.040 Just fly around.
00:53:11.900 Right.
00:53:12.320 That's just a question.
00:53:12.920 Right.
00:53:13.160 But I mean, 70 pounds from where you were, I don't think so.
00:53:18.100 Okay.
00:53:18.400 Maybe a little bit more than that.
00:53:19.680 Okay.
00:53:21.240 No?
00:53:21.840 No.
00:53:22.640 Really?
00:53:23.140 Yeah.
00:53:24.200 Got a lot of water weight you're held on to.
00:53:26.100 Well, I'm hollow inside.
00:53:27.060 Yeah.
00:53:30.180 So do you have a plan?
00:53:31.300 Do you have a goal in mind of what you want to do?
00:53:33.780 Is it?
00:53:34.040 They actually, right now, the docs were more concerned with, let's get the heart healthy
00:53:37.660 and let's, you know, start exercising and start getting that back and everything else
00:53:41.540 will follow.
00:53:42.860 And the smoking?
00:53:43.720 No smoking.
00:53:44.040 No.
00:53:44.300 Yeah.
00:53:44.400 So we can do it for exercise.
00:53:45.820 That's 100%.
00:53:46.500 They put me in some place I have to go to now, some heart rehab place.
00:53:51.540 So whatever they have to go with what they say, I know.
00:53:54.240 I just started using a rower.
00:53:57.580 Oh, I used to love those.
00:53:59.120 Yeah.
00:53:59.600 Frank Underwood.
00:53:59.780 I have the one Frank Underwood had.
00:54:02.560 Oh, really?
00:54:02.960 Those are great.
00:54:03.540 And started using it.
00:54:07.300 It will wipe you out.
00:54:09.540 Oh, yeah.
00:54:10.160 And if you do five minutes a day even, but you do five minutes a day twice a day.
00:54:15.820 Do they recommend more than just five minutes?
00:54:18.040 No.
00:54:18.520 Actually, it's like 10 minutes.
00:54:19.680 They say 10 minutes a day and it is a full body workout.
00:54:23.580 Interesting.
00:54:23.980 Yeah.
00:54:24.880 I'm up to four and then I just want to kill myself.
00:54:29.020 I know.
00:54:29.400 I'm sorry.
00:54:29.660 But I don't have the strength of the energy to be able to reach for a knife or anything
00:54:33.560 deadly.
00:54:35.840 All right.
00:54:36.460 Jeff Fisher, thank you so much.
00:54:37.820 God bless you.
00:54:38.740 I love you too.
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