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On this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck sits down with Stephen Crowder to discuss the President's plan to use emergency powers to get across the US-Mexico border with a bill that calls for a wall on the southern border.
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Hello and welcome to the podcast. It is Tuesday and a very important Tuesday at 9 p.m. on this night.
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The president is going to speak about a very important issue. We'll get into that on the podcast in a second.
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First, I want to tell you, let me give you this example. Stephen Crowder. You might be familiar with him.
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He's got a show. It's very popular. Shut up. It's coming back on January 17th. Whoa.
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You know where it's coming back to? Where? Blaze TV. Oh, my God.
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Can't believe you're a subscriber. You're going to get it. Yeah, but he's the only one.
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No, there's dozens of them. Dozens of them. Glenn Beck Program, you might know.
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You can watch the show every day. You can watch Pat Gray Unleashed, and you can get News and Why It Matters,
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plus dozens of other shows like Eric Bolling and Mark Levin and Stephen Crowder.
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Where could I get this? You can get that at blazetv.com slash Beck.
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It's probably really expensive. Well, what if I were to get $10 off for you? Shut up.
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Yeah, I can do that for you if you use the promo code Beck. Go there now, subscribe, and get ready for the show.
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We get this show every day, and Stephen Crowder starts on the 17th.
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Okay, so on today's podcast, I think you're really going to like it.
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One, just the pros and cons of the president saying,
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I'm going to use an executive order or emergency measures to be able to build the wall on the border.
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I think the consensus is that we agree with the goal.
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We don't like the route, and that was surprising when we took it to the phones
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and so it's going to be interesting to see what the president actually talks about,
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and we'll be able to talk about it in more detail when he actually goes through it tonight.
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Also, Jeffy, Jeff Fisher, who's been with this show for about 20 years,
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We talked about his fatness, his smoking, and his widow-maker heart attack.
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He is one of the very few that have a heart attack this massive and actually live.
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He was spared, but he was spared, and we talk about that on today's podcast.
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You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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This is the number one growing crime in America, according to the FBI,
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Yeah, and most importantly, they steal the equity behind it.
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You're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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or you just happen to have your house paid off.
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take out big home equity loans, and then you get stuck with the bills.
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You do not want to try to unwind a problem like this.
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No bank, no identity theft program, no insurance is going to protect you.
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They put this barrier around your home's title and mortgage.
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And if somebody tries to screw with you, they help shut it down for you.
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to make sure you're not already in trouble with this.
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All right, what would you say if I told you that officially
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You can't, once you declare a national emergency, the president does,
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and I make no mistake, I believe he has this power to do it,
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and I think it's an important power for the president to have.
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But the way it's designed, it never, ever goes away.
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Because it takes both houses to just majority vote, no.
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But then it goes to the president, and he has to veto.
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Then you have to have two-thirds of Congress overturn his veto.
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And, in fact, in history, it never has happened.
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But if you look at the national emergencies that we have,
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Who was the first president to declare a national emergency?
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So we went from 1791 or 1789 to 1979 without a national emergency.
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We went through the Civil War, no national emergencies.
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Blocking the Iranian government property, November 14, 1979.
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So that's what Obama, when he flew all that cash back,
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We're still under a state of emergency blocking property.
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And then, you know, the billions of dollars we sent over there
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was essentially the other side of that transaction.
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They were complaining about how we kept their stuff all this time.
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But we never got rid of the national emergency.
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Proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, November 14, 1994.
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So the first president to ever do it, 1979, was Carter.
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Then, prohibiting transactions with terrorists who threatened to disrupt
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Prohibiting certain transactions with respect to the development
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Also in 1995, blocking assets and prohibiting transactions
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Then in 96, regulations of the anchorage and movement of vessels
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Then in 97, blocking Sudanese government property and prohibiting
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Blocking property of persons who threaten international stabilization
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Continuation of export control regulations, August 17, 2001.
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Declaration of national emergency by reason of certain terrorist attacks,
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Then September 23, blocking property and prohibiting transactions
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with persons who commit, threaten to commit, or support terrorism.
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Then blocking property of persons undermining democratic process
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Then protecting the development fund for Iraq and certain other property
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Blocking property of persons and prohibiting the export of certain goods
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Blocking property of certain persons undermining democratic processes
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Also in October 2006, blocking property of certain persons contributing
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to the conflict of the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
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Then blocking property of persons undermining the sovereignty of Lebanon
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and its democratic process and institutions in 2007.
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Then we have in June 2006, continuing certain restrictions
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with respect to North Korea and North Korean nationalists.
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Blocking property of certain persons continuing to the conflict in Somalia.
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Blocking property of certain transactions related to Libya.
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Blocking property of transnational criminal organizations.
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Blocking property of persons threatening peace, security, stability in Yemen.
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Blocking property of certain persons contributing to the situation in Ukraine.
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Blocking property of certain persons with respect to South Sudan.
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Blocking the property of certain persons contributing to the conflict
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Blocking property suspending the entry of certain persons contributing to the situation in Venezuela.
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Then blocking the property of certain persons engaging in significant malicious cyber-enabled activities.
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Blocking property of certain persons contributing to the situation in Burundi.
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They're all blocking property and possessions of potential terrorists or newly inflamed hotspots around the globe.
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None of it would fall under the category of new spending or anything like that.
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It's all blocking property and that's what it's been used for.
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It is making sure that people, the bad guys, don't have access to more funds or transfer funds across international borders.
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That's what the emergency action has been since it was first used in 1979.
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And I would say too, another thing that I think a lot of those have in common.
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But most of them I would say are lower on the priority list of American sovereignty and security.
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Like what's going on in Burundi might be very important and it probably is.
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But I would not put that on the level of September 11th.
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I mean I think like that doesn't mean that there was no reason to use those things.
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It's not since 2006 that the Americans have said we want a border wall.
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That's when Congress, including Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, signed into law a border wall.
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And everybody in the Senate and Congress tried to convince me.
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I mean I knew it wasn't and you knew it wasn't.
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The reason why it was popular for Obama and Hillary Clinton to sign it in in 2006 was because we all knew what happened just a few short years ago in 2001.
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And no one was willing to do anything about it.
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But there's another there's another piece of the puzzle.
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The overwhelming problem that we have is overstayed visas and they've never fixed that either.
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That's that was the number one problem on September 11th.
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That's still the number one problem with terror and a border wall won't have anything to do with that.
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But I don't think that's where the American people are.
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They know that they don't think this is a fix all.
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They just think this is one box that needs to be checked and no one will ever check it.
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But if I'm if I'm reading the American people right, the American people know that this is a problem and they're tired of waiting around and being told by one party or the other, we're going to fix that.
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No one is serious about it except the American people.
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So tonight, I think people are going to be split in two camps.
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The Democrats who have been brainwashed that, oh, no, this is just racist.
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They're going to be against it, even though their leaders signed it in in 2006 when all the rest of the Democrats remembered September 11th.
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They're going to be brainwashed and they're going to say, no, this is nothing about nothing but race.
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The pros, as I see it, is that this would mean that there would be a permanent solution.
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And I think that's the number one thing that conservatives are looking for.
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We're tired of having this same battle and being told we're going to take care of it, knowing that they're not going to take care of it.
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And so this provides something that goes beyond this president and it's done.
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Unless they decide to blow it up or tear it down, which I would put necessarily past the future president.
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You haven't solved the problem, but you have more security.
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A move in the right direction, a big move in the right direction.
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You have somebody who's willing to say, I'm responsible for this.
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That's the one thing that I think both Republicans and Democrats want.
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Maybe not on the same things, but they want someone to say buck stops here.
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That is the real problem with like government shutdowns and things like that is the more we don't believe in the federal government, the more we want someone, anyone just to step in and say, I'll fix it.
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Because we think these things are common sense.
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I want the best people from all over the world to come in.
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But I what I don't want are people coming in through the windows and through the side doors that we don't know who's in the house.
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And I don't want that in any way, shape or form.
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Seems like, you know, the basic common sense, common sense when it comes to having a country and having borders.
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You have to be able to control them if they get out of control.
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No one's talking about a fence between us and Canada because that is not an out of control border.
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And they've already let us down after they we've elected them and they've passed bills promising it.
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OK, including votes from Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer and Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.
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This is not a Republican measure very recently.
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And that is that's the thing the president's going to hang his hat on tonight.
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You mean as far as actually saying the state of emergency and shifting funds to pay for the border wall without passing the law?
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There's a lot of reporting on it that that's definitely what he's considering.
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Like he may be saying, like, look, I'm going to do this either way.
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You might as well get your DACA and give me the money because I'm going to go do this as a.
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Well, because then the shutdown thing is getting to those elevated levels, too, where it's starting to you're already starting to see the reporting about people who who, you know, the tax refunds they've solved in the short term.
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But you've got the food stamps thing that's right around the corner.
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There's several different programs that will start becoming major news stories if they don't get this fixed by then.
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This really has to be written really, really well.
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And his his goal is to make people understand the seriousness of the border as a separately from some political issue.
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His goal is to say to the person who's in the middle who cares about our security, but isn't a partisan or isn't a huge Trump person or whatever to convince them that, hey, you know, you've been hearing all this stuff.
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And we may need to make it a national emergency.
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This is the first time that he's done anything from the Oval Office.
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He has not given a speech behind the Resolute desk in the Oval Office and not an address to the nation.
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This is his first primetime address from behind the Resolute desk.
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The Resolute desk is generally reserved for really important speeches, you know, milestone kind of speeches to where we're going to war or there's a national emergency or there's something really grave that we need to talk about.
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Also, it has traditionally been used for the farewell address.
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Interesting to see the media struggle yesterday with should we even take this?
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Second of all, if you would have even suggested that under Barack Obama, you would have been a racist for suggesting it.
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Okay, so the only thing that I can think of that is a con on national emergency is it is not unconstitutional.
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We have 22 national emergencies already running.
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And there's all sorts of different types of national emergencies as well.
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I mean, one of the funny things about this is we had a caller last hour saying, well, one of the ways he could do this is because of the opioid thing.
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Well, there is a national health emergency on opioids, a different type of national emergency.
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But until he actually, he promised to declare a national emergency on opioids, but it took him, Trump, a while to do it.
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And in that time, the media was constantly complaining that he wasn't starting a national health emergency on opioids.
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They complained about it constantly until he finally did wind up doing it.
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Now that the same, it's a related matter on opioids and heroin and these sorts of things.
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Now that he wants to do a different type of national emergency, it's a very controversial thing.
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So if he's smart, he will include opioids tonight.
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And he will include the humanitarian crisis that has been caused here recently by people who wish to do our country no good.
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Also, he should include that we will open up our immigration and make it easier for qualified people to come in.
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Because I don't think anybody has a problem with immigrants as long as they're here and they're qualified.
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And again, MS-13 gets this political sort of thing.
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Oh, that's just Donald Trump trying to scare people.
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To just put this in perspective, MS-13 kills 4.3 times as many people that die in school shootings.
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In the United States, 4.3 times as many people die at the hands of MS-13 than die in school shootings.
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No, it's just a nonsensical, oh, that's just Donald Trump.
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No, it's a very violent gang and they kill a lot of people in the United States.
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If you think school shootings are a real problem, which we all know the left does.
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And the president should include things like that if he's going to make the case.
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Now, the only downside I can see on this is I don't like the way this is being done.
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I don't want the next president coming in and saying, well, I'll tell you, a national crisis, a national emergency, it's global warming.
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Yeah, the idea behind a national emergency is to take things that aren't partisan issues.
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We all know that Iran is a big problem and we need to stop their funding.
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September 11th, right after that, we all know, we're all on the same page.
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The votes are all, you know, 100 to 0 on issues related to that.
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This is one where, obviously, Republicans want it to happen.
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But again, that's why there's a national emergency part of this, right?
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Look, I'm not making a case for this because I don't think this is the right way to do it.
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But I'm going to play devil's advocate because there is no other way to do this anymore.
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Any other way to do it has been destroyed because we've made everything partisan.
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We all knew that in 2006, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton signed the wall into law.
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It's a national state of emergency on the climate.
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I mean, this is how a lot of times the EPA has tried to control emissions and put new standards on.
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Which are things that, you know, I've fought against the entire time because I believe those are completely unconstitutional.
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It would be, not only would it not be unconstitutional, it would be completely legal as far as I can tell.
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It does seem to be an expanded use of this power, which, you know, I don't want that ever.
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I don't ever want to be on the air telling you that the government is getting more power to do something because they already have enough.
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And the reason, you know, these things are hard to do.
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To pass a border wall is going to be hard to do.
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What's really crazy is we went to the moon in the 1960s when we didn't have the technology.
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Defense technology has been around for a while.
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Getting together and putting a fence or a wall up to stop people from coming in across our border.
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I mean, I just, you know, we all, if this was the way that this could have been done, we wouldn't have needed to have a conversation about laws for the past two years.
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I think everyone realized for the past two years, including the administration, that this was not the way to do this.
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The same way, by the way, that Barack Obama had the conversation about DACA.
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And then they came up with another way around it.
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The only reason why we have Donald Trump, the thing that Donald Trump really connected, because remember, he wasn't connecting at the beginning until he got onto the border wall.
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When he started on the border wall, that was his, in his first opening speech, that was like 19th on his list.
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The whole, you know, Mexican rapist thing that he got beat up on so much.
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That was like, I want to say it was like two or 3% of his speech.
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So as soon as he started to get onto that, that's when he really took off.
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So let me just, let me just posit this, this little thought here that perhaps because the Democrats refused to deal with what they said they would do in 2008, and they agreed that we needed a wall, but then for some political reason or some other reason that never has been vocalized, they decided not to build the wall.
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That's the reason why we have Donald Trump as president.
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Because politicians refused to do exactly not what they said they were going to do, but what they wrote a bill and signed on to do.
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They passed a law that said, shall be built, and they never did it.
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So if you're looking for an ultimate reason why Donald Trump, how could Donald Trump be our president?
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And the Republicans and the Democrats failed to build a wall that they passed a law.
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But I mean, Trump, one thing about Trump in these moments is he doesn't like being on defense, right?
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So this is a way for him to turn it to being on offense.
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I've got something I can use and I will use it.
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I think there's a good chance that he says tonight, you've got two weeks to hammer this out or I'm going to use this.
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You know, again, it makes me uneasy, that sort of power.
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But still, it is an understandable thing that, I mean, because the basic thing behind it, everybody agrees with, at least in this audience.
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I think most people on the conservative side, which is this is a real problem.
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We just have to make sure we don't cross some barrier.
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Left to them, their own devices, the American people would solve this problem.
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I also, because it's a new year, I really want to focus on the big issues.
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And I was overwhelmed during the holiday with the number of people that wrote in and said how close they were to giving up, how they had wrestled with depression, how they had been wrestling with alcoholism, and how they had a new commitment to continue another day.
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And sometimes we forget about how alone people can feel.
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And it's because we don't talk about these things, because we kind of bury them, and they are kind of first principles.
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They're the things that we should be talking about with each other.
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But sometimes these things make us uncomfortable, and you don't know what to say.
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Anyway, I know this is true for me in many cases with veterans, because I hold them in such high regard.
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And I don't necessarily, I just don't necessarily know what I would do in their situation.
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And it causes me sometimes to not say anything.
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One of the biggest regrets in my life, I am good friends with Chris Kyle's wife, but I was not friends with Chris, because I stood at a charity fundraiser, shoulder to shoulder with him.
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And I only shook his hand and thanked him for his service, I didn't even talk to him, because I was so intimidated.
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Our soldiers are going through real tough times, but it's those who refuse to give up that make the difference.
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Our partners at StoryCorps have a great story to tell.
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Between a Marine Corporal, Zach Skiles, he was deployed to Iraq in 2003.
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While serving on the front lines, he lost five friends within a two-week period.
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And when he came home, he had a hard time adjusting.
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So StoryCorps sat down with him and his father, Scott, to talk about the difficulties that he faced during the war and how he got back on his feet.
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I remember saying to you, every gift that I've been given, I don't have a better one than to be your dad.
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And I remember you smiling, saying, I love you too, dad.
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And then you got out of the car and went to war.
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I was pretty sure someone was going to kick down my door.
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The crazy thing was that I didn't think that there was anything super wrong.
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In the nighttime, I stayed on coastal trails and hiking trails.
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And in the daytime, I could just pass out at a park.
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There was a time period where I didn't know where you were.
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And it is difficult to watch anyone let go of hope.
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I remember great relief that you decided to go into inpatient treatment.
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And I remember one night you getting out of the car to walk back into the treatment building.
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And it was dark and your head was kind of down.
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And for a moment, I could feel the weight you were carrying.
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As I watched you walk into that building, I uttered these two words that,
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I don't know if they were some kind of prayer or not, but they just came out,
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And I was absolutely overcome with grief and love and the beginning of hope.
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I remember my dad saying this to me, and I feel it is so true between you and I.
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But then as your dad, that gives me the second to the last word.
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And the second to the last word is, I believe in you and I'm on your side.
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There's a powerful thing I learned from somebody who had been kept as a sex slave in Mexico.
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She had literally, she had chained scars around her neck, scars all over her back,
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where she had been beaten and burned and chained for a couple of years.
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I was recording something with her, and I said,
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I want you to say, hi, my name is so-and-so, and I used to be a slave.
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And she said, because I never considered myself a slave.
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They may have chained me, but I never considered myself a slave.
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Our lives are a blank piece of paper, and we are the only authors of it.
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If someone else is authoring it, or if you don't like the way the story is going,
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It sounds ridiculous because it's too easy, but it's true.
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Well, Zach is getting his Ph.D. now in psychology.
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And I will say, this was the first time, as you know, a StoryCorps interview is two people
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who care about one another coming to have a conversation.
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And we've had a dozen big special initiatives through the years.
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And this one is part of the Military Voices Initiative, focusing on the voices of post-9-11
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The first time they ever had this conversation, first time they ever talked about what happened
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And I met, so I don't get a chance to meet a lot of the participants in StoryCorps.
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We've had half a million people who participate.
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But when I'm giving a talk, sometimes people from stories will come to the talk.
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And Zach's dad, Scott, came to a talk a little while ago.
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And this goes back a little bit to what you were saying about the woman who you had interviewed,
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And it reminded me of that Mandela quote where he said, Nelson Mandela, they can chain my
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body, but they can't, they can't chain my soul.
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But Zach's dad, Scott, after I played a story, handed me just a very brief quote, which stuck
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And it just said, here is the world, beautiful and terrible things will happen.
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So how can people get involved in your new initiative, One Small Step?
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This is trying to bring people together that maybe don't see the world politically the same
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way, but you're preserving the voices of people who are very, very different from one another,
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So we have, you can come to our website at storycore, S-T-O-R-Y-C-O-R-P-S dot org, backslash
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And you described exactly what we're trying to do.
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We've had half a million people who know and love each other, like Zach and Scott, come
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And now we're working to put people on opposite sides of the political divide together, just
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to not to talk about politics, just to remember that someone you disagree with is also a human
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I mean, have you actually started to record these yet?
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And it's, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's kind of addictive.
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Um, you know, it, it brings out kind of the opposite impulses of social media.
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When you do a story core interview, uh, each of those interviews go is, goes to the library
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So your great, great, great, great, great grandkids can hear the voice of your grandmother or your
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And unlike social media, which is so disposable, you know, story core is the ultimate kind of
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So when you come to a story core booth and you're talking to someone across the political
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divides, you know, that your great, great, great grandkids are going to listen to this
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So you really are your kind of best highest self.
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Um, so it's, it's just a, it's a beautiful thing to see.
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And, and, you know, I think that it's, it's enough already, right.
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And it's, it's, it's, it's just an existential crisis.
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And we've forgotten that we belong to one another.
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I can't wait to hear some of those voices that you're collecting.
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If you want to be a part of this, go to story core, C O R P S story core.org slash one small
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So it's early in the morning up at the ranch and my whole family and my grandkids and everybody's
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around and, uh, uh, I walk out into the main room and I said, everybody, we have to say
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And, uh, my family just looked at me and, uh, I said, Jeffy has just had a heart attack
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And by the end of the prayer, most of us were in tears, um, because we just love him dearly.
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And, uh, we were greatly concerned about you, Jeffy.
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The support, the overwhelming support between coworkers and, uh, listeners and viewers of
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And, uh, you know, proof that, uh, you know, well wishes and thoughts and prayers work.
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You got up in the morning and Amber told me you were sitting on the edge of the bed.
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Uh, sitting on the edge of the bed and the pain in my chest was not going away.
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How many days of pain did you ignore before you were sitting on the bed and wondering
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I mean, you, you really honestly looking back on it, it was dumb not to do something,
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uh, dumb not to go see somebody about it because, uh, you realize that that's not right.
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You know, that's just not, that's not the pain of hurting yourself while you sleep.
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And so the morning of the, um, the pain that would not stop, uh, it just doesn't stop.
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There's no way you just, I mean, it, it starts in your chest and it stays there and continues
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It was more just a complete pressure on my chest.
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Um, nonstop pain all over, you know, the entire chest.
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Um, so Amber said, you know, you feel nauseous and like you're going to throw up and that's
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That was, was, I'm surprised your family didn't drown.
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If it was more than usual, I'm surprised that the lifeguard wasn't called out.
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The shirt was still, I believe the shirt was still sopped after a couple of days.
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So, um, uh, you told Amber not to call the first time.
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And then the last, um, the last no was more of a no yes call.
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So, uh, so she said that your pulse had gotten down to, I think 45, whatever.
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And in transit, uh, you know, once they, uh, you know, once we called nine one one and,
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and the, um, you know, rescue fire rescue and the ambulance people were all there within,
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I don't know how long it took them to get there.
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I know that we live in some strange area that it took three transfers on, on nine one one
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You know, when you call nine one one, it's like, you want something now and Oh, hold on.
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Please hold screaming at the phone, but they, you know, relatively fast.
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And then, uh, in transit, uh, from my home to the, to the hospital, I apparently went
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off the deep end farther, um, close to the end.
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And then I, once we got to the hospital, you remember it.
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I remember looking, I remember looking out the window saying, Oh, this is the way they're
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I remember them banging on the door of the ER because the ER door wouldn't open.
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I remember that with the fire rescue going, Hey, to be fair though, a lot of businesses
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So that's just, I believe there's a restraining order here.
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And so you didn't go into the normal ER situation, right?
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Straight into the cath lab for a heart surgery restraint.
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I mean, I didn't, to be honest, um, but I haven't seen paperwork or a bill or nothing.
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I know there's going to end up at the front door, you know, and then probably giant bags
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When I heard that was the first thing we called HR to make sure that you did not have
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I can't imagine you would never stand there with paperwork.
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It was, uh, I mean, there was nothing, you know, I mean, it would straight in and right
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And, uh, they had, uh, one, one on the left side was a hundred percent blocked.
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And apparently there's a reason they call that the widow maker.
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It goes, when it gets a hundred percent blocked, you die.
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Um, and if it's not attended too fast enough, right?
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I mean, if you don't get to it in time, uh, if, if someone, you know, believes that no
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means no in your world and doesn't call nine one one, uh, you're dead.
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Did you, I was telling, that's what's so funny.
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I was telling you, I remember Pat reminded me this morning when he, when he came to the
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hospital is that, um, I don't remember ever thinking this was it that didn't flash between
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I, I didn't think, I didn't ever think, oh, this is it.
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I wonder if that, whatever it is in you that made you not think that is what helped you
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I mean, I, I obviously, you know, I mean, it's scary and you're having a heart attack and
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I'm, you know, kind of freaking out and going through whatever you go through when you have
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the heart attack and the chest is hurting and I just want it to stop and I want it to
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One of the things you, we talked, uh, at your place, uh, the past weekend you mentioned,
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which I thought was really interesting was it's kind of like they brought you in and
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they did their job and cleared out the problems and then you're kind of like, they kind of
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You're like, if they had just known, let's say two weeks earlier that you had this blockage,
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you would have still had the surgery, but you wouldn't have had the heart attack.
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I mean, you were, this is, remember this happened, what, 10 days ago, 12, two weeks ago,
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We're probably the last generation where something like this, you don't come back.
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Double, double bypass surgery was like, that was crazy.
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I mean, I don't even, you know, I don't even think they do it.
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I think they, they break your chest open once in a while.
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If you need it in particular cases, what a new one, but yes, yeah, I guess so.
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If they were, if they're going to put in a, like that, I had a stent put in, uh, the one
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And I learned yesterday that they left a couple of valves on the other side of my heart that
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They're going to leave those because they'll look, they'll clean themselves out.
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Well, they'll clean themselves, clean themselves out.
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Now with the new medication, scrubbing bubbles in there.
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I have, that's the medication I have now is scrubbing bubbles and it's just doing its
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I mean, it's apparently, you know, it's a, they have me on some kind of, I mean, blood
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They said that that's, I don't, that'll clean it out now that we've got the other sides
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I mean, Ray Kurzweil said, Glenn, just stay alive until third, 2030, then you'll never
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To be honest, I don't want that either, but I mean, that's, that's, I mean, that's how
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Uh, we'll come back and talk about changes now and changes that our wives are now yelling
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So we were up in the mountains until, uh, Sunday and, uh, this happened what day?
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We can get text messages, but I can't make any phone calls up in the mountains.
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Um, and, uh, I called Amber right away and then I called, uh, Pat and Stu and Pat ended
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Uh, basically it's different when someone who's like a peer, a friend, this happens to it.
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I don't know how much longer we can do this to our bodies, but that's exactly what he said.
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They are, uh, you know, they obviously, you know, they lose weight and eat right and get,
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get, you know, exercise and get right and get your heart stronger.
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We're all, you know, we're in the way you're saying the right place.
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It sounds like you're not really shot across the bow is a warning.
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We could do something about it, but they really were most concerned about.
00:49:15.280
There was another, you know, thing that I involved myself in over the years that you're
00:49:37.920
And it's just, and so that's what they're most concerned with is that the smoking, stop
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You can put a patch on, you can chew, don't smoke, don't vape, don't do none of it.
00:49:56.860
I know Stu and I talked about this the other day about the vaping because I don't know that
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I don't know that there's any actual deep studies that prove that.
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I think the science on it, honestly, is pretty favorable towards vaping as far as a replacement.
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I mean, it's much lower on the risk sort of scale.
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But again, that doesn't mean a person who just had a heart attack should take it up.
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Yeah, a lot of these companies talk about that in that, like, this is a way to stop.
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It's certainly not something you should just start from scratch.
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Like, if you're not smoking, don't start vaping.
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But if you are smoking, vaping is probably better.
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Though for you, coming out of a massive heart attack, perhaps zero smoking of any sort is
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Which, you know, kills the rave parties that I've been going to.
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They did talk a little bit about supplements at one point yesterday with the heart doc.
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The heart doc did point out a few things about some of the supplements, but that's about
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So did they, I mean, you know, we've occasionally mentioned on this program before, your weight.
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If people, long time listeners may have remembered this.
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Now your wife notoriously likes fat men, which at the Christmas wine, at the Christmas party.
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She came up to me and she said, you are looking great.
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I was immediately like, I have got to lose weight.
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And she's a, you know, she's a fan of starting to eat right and do things right now.
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But she is also a notoriously good cook of all the things you should not have.
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I'm making, I'm going to lose 50 pounds this year.
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Because you were, you were really, you were really svelte for a while.
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See, you know, once in a while there's fat jokes.
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But I mean, 70 pounds from where you were, I don't think so.
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Do you have a goal in mind of what you want to do?
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They actually, right now, the docs were more concerned with, let's get the heart healthy
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and let's, you know, start exercising and start getting that back and everything else
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They put me in some place I have to go to now, some heart rehab place.
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So whatever they have to go with what they say, I know.
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And if you do five minutes a day even, but you do five minutes a day twice a day.
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They say 10 minutes a day and it is a full body workout.
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I'm up to four and then I just want to kill myself.
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But I don't have the strength of the energy to be able to reach for a knife or anything