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00:01:05.620 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:10.780 I want to play quickly some audio that came from Seattle and Ami Horowitz talking to one of the leaders of this Black Lives Matter group.

00:01:20.380 I want you to listen to what she said.

00:01:22.460 Every single day that I show up here, I'm not here to peacefully protest.

00:01:27.040 I'm here to disrupt until my demands are met.

00:01:30.920 You cannot rebuild until you break it all the way down.

00:01:35.160 Respond to the demands of the people who are prepared to be met with any means necessary by any means necessary.

00:01:44.440 That's not just a slogan.

00:01:45.580 I'm letting people know what comes next.

00:01:57.400 A response to violence is not violence itself.

00:02:00.260 May I ask, where are the pastors?

00:02:09.640 Where are the preachers?

00:02:10.400 Where are the men and women of God that know what is actually happening right here, right now, and have the guts to stand up and lead this nation back to common sense, to kindness, to the Ten Commandments, the Golden Rule, everything our parents and grandparents taught us.

00:02:30.180 It's all the things that that simple man from Nazareth taught.

00:02:34.960 I want you to listen to me really carefully.

00:02:37.680 I want you to listen to these words.

00:02:39.360 This nation is not evil, but believe me, it is about to be.

00:02:47.100 If good men and women do not stand up, if they continue to do nothing, the freedom we all enjoy, as well as the hope of freedom, now only dreamt about by the 40 million men, women, and children who are actual slaves today, those who have been taken, ripped from their families so they could be sold to the highest bidder.

00:03:09.980 And that doesn't even include the political prisoners, those who are persecuted because of their faith, their sexuality, their race, or a hundred other stupid reasons.

00:03:21.100 That small flicker of hope that those people hold on to, that there's somewhere to run, that somebody cares, that somebody's coming, that somebody hasn't forgotten them, that light will be snuffed out.

00:03:33.840 And we will become more dark and terrible than any of the totalitarian states Karl Marx could have ever imagined.

00:03:44.800 Where are you, moms and dads, grandparents, millennials?

00:03:51.320 Where are all the black matriarchs? 1.00

00:03:53.740 Those of you who know what's good and healthy for your grandchildren, you know what this country can mean for them.

00:03:59.520 You know your grandchildren's biggest threat comes from the streets, the gangs, the drugs, and the loss of God.

00:04:07.160 Where are you?

00:04:10.480 Do you realize that only 16% of the American public, and that's white and black, Republican, Democrat,

00:04:16.600 only 16% of the American public are actually for defunding the police.

00:04:21.420 Even fewer are for disbanding the police.

00:04:25.500 Now why is that?

00:04:26.480 Because you and I both know what life in the cities would mean without a police force.

00:04:32.820 We know it.

00:04:34.460 Chaos, cruelty, and all those who are the most vulnerable will suffer the worst.

00:04:41.700 But mark my words, no matter how much you play along, the mob will come for you.

00:04:48.440 They will take what you have, because when you actually read the words or listen to people like I just played for you,

00:04:55.500 the people who lead these groups, they are for revolution, they are for chaos,

00:05:00.300 they are for taking you, the system, and everything you've ever held dear down, rip it apart, destroy it, burn it, and never look back.

00:05:11.260 Where's your voice?

00:05:14.260 America, why are you silent?

00:05:15.740 What your grandparents, the greatest generation, what they fought for, is about to be lost, but not on the beaches of Normandy.

00:05:27.920 No, shamefully, it's all about to be lost with a yawn and a whimper.

00:05:31.440 Father's Day is this weekend.

00:05:39.020 Where are you, fathers?

00:05:41.580 Have we all been so hypnotized and so misled by social media that we fail to see the cost to our children?

00:05:49.980 Hey, Columbus, Ohio, they're now demanding that the statue of Columbus be taken down.

00:05:57.180 Well, when there is no Columbus, what's the name of your city?

00:06:03.000 Chaz? 0.96

00:06:04.040 Chop?

00:06:06.200 Afraid?

00:06:09.480 Look, I...

00:06:10.980 I understand fear.

00:06:15.840 I understand the fear of losing your job.

00:06:22.360 I understand the fear of losing your friends, being an outcast.

00:06:26.020 I've been there.

00:06:30.680 I understand the fear of losing your life, being completely erased.

00:06:38.600 But there is more to this gift of life and freedom that we have been granted here in this country.

00:06:45.840 There's more to it than a job or popularity.

00:06:52.820 I've lived this gift far more than my fair share.

00:07:02.980 I'm okay.

00:07:04.620 I'm okay.

00:07:05.620 With losing it for me, if it means saving it for my grandchildren and my children.

00:07:17.400 Because that's what's happening.

00:07:20.600 And it's our turn to stand as Martin Luther King or Abraham Lincoln stood.

00:07:25.980 And they were afraid.

00:07:27.400 They were terrified.

00:07:28.640 They were tired.

00:07:29.400 Have you seen the look of Abraham Lincoln in a few short years?

00:07:35.260 He didn't want to do any of that.

00:07:38.360 But he knew someone had to do it.

00:07:40.820 The same for Martin Luther King.

00:07:42.460 He knew that he was born at that time for a reason.

00:07:46.380 Just as you are born at this time for a reason as well.

00:07:49.960 In this country.

00:07:51.120 And it wasn't to bow down.

00:07:52.900 It wasn't to kneel down.

00:07:54.320 It wasn't to grovel and kiss the feet of Marxist revolutionaries.

00:08:00.440 They will not bring you a new peaceful world.

00:08:03.480 They will bring you one of terror, oppression, death for our children.

00:08:08.560 We're about to hit an amazing birthday for our nation in just a few short years.

00:08:22.000 300 years.

00:08:23.580 The oldest constitution in the world.

00:08:27.560 And it's hanging by a thread.

00:08:30.300 And what are our churches doing?

00:08:32.360 Oh, shame on you churches.

00:08:34.040 Our churches are either preaching Marxism or it's gateway drug from the pulpit.

00:08:40.520 Or they're just playing it safe.

00:08:41.980 Carving out a safe space for their church or their faith.

00:08:46.000 Or just remaining silent so they can keep their congregation intact for the tithing money.

00:08:51.500 Which is worse?

00:08:53.560 At least the Marxists.

00:08:55.580 The social justice warriors.

00:08:57.680 At least they believe in something.

00:09:00.060 Do you even believe the words you preach?

00:09:02.020 Have you all gone mad?

00:09:04.880 Where is this?

00:09:06.000 Where is freedom?

00:09:07.340 Where is forgiveness?

00:09:09.100 This is a message of no forgiveness.

00:09:12.480 Where's the individual in this scheme?

00:09:14.820 Because Christ didn't come for us as a group.

00:09:17.020 He came for us each individually.

00:09:19.100 This is a mob.

00:09:20.620 Did Jesus preach mobs?

00:09:22.920 Looting?

00:09:23.460 Class warfare?

00:09:24.800 Did he teach one race over another?

00:09:27.420 Redistribution of wealth?

00:09:28.480 Did he and his apostles throw down the statues of the Roman gods?

00:09:32.700 Because certainly the Son of God found those statues offensive and personally hurtful.

00:09:40.760 Do the disciples of God, do the disciples of Jesus Christ now support revenge, covetousness, and violent revolution?

00:09:50.080 The lies, the deception, the downright deceit.

00:09:54.900 It is evil.

00:09:56.900 And if you don't see it, or at least feel that something has gone wrong here, frankly, you may be too lost.

00:10:05.320 But believe me, history will find you.

00:10:10.360 History will remember you for what you chose to do or not do as man's greatest experiment to see if men could rule themselves.

00:10:20.520 Oh, history will remember that when it got tough, because frankly, it became too easy, you traded our freedom for what?

00:10:31.920 For what?

00:10:33.100 No cops?

00:10:35.280 You're an imbecile.

00:10:37.900 Man, if I were the devil, I couldn't have planned this better.

00:10:40.580 Where are you, valiant, honest men and women who are awake?

00:10:47.340 Stand up.

00:10:48.880 Square your shoulders.

00:10:50.320 You are the son or daughter of the only king who doesn't need you.

00:10:55.820 He wants you.

00:10:59.540 Has anybody noticed the gift that we've been given lately?

00:11:02.020 Because of COVID, we've had a short period of time where everything, all this busy nonsense of the world is put on pause, a chance to come back to our families, to our roots, to our God.

00:11:16.360 We have been taken out of the noise and the filth of the world so we could be quiet enough to remember who we really are.

00:11:23.320 And yet we're still restless.

00:11:26.120 Why?

00:11:26.600 Because even in this miraculous time, we haven't recognized the only thing that can truly give us rest.

00:11:37.840 Listen.

00:11:42.120 If tomorrow, and time is of the essence, if tomorrow we began a massive national action,

00:11:52.700 not to do anything but personally teach our children the true history, and then stand in our own communities, we win!

00:12:02.920 Because we surround them!

00:12:05.560 Americans versus Marxists.

00:12:07.920 Not left versus right.

00:12:09.280 Americans versus Marxist revolutionaries.

00:12:14.660 But let me just say this.

00:12:15.960 Even if we didn't have a chance of winning, where are those who would join a losing fight just because it's right?

00:12:25.620 Where are the real civil rights leaders of today who will take a beating from this Marxist mob because it's right?

00:12:34.500 Where are those today that died at the Alamo?

00:12:38.940 It'd be funny if it weren't so tragic.

00:12:41.380 They died for the freedom of those they didn't even know.

00:12:45.720 And this generation won't even risk being defriended for those we love.

00:12:54.280 Where are those who came from foreign lands? 1.00

00:12:58.380 Where are those who saw the promise of freedom when they were oppressed?

00:13:03.760 Where are those who were held captive elsewhere?

00:13:06.520 Those who loved America's founders behind the Iron Curtain?

00:13:09.840 Those who know this evil, because they've seen this evil.

00:13:14.860 They lived it when so many didn't.

00:13:18.820 Your new country needs you.

00:13:21.440 Where are the Cuban and Venezuelan communities?

00:13:25.380 Your country is being torpedoed by thieves and saboteurs that you personally have seen come and rape your own country before.

00:13:34.820 This country is going down.

00:13:36.780 It is time, all hands on deck.

00:13:40.540 Organize yourselves.

00:13:42.420 Where are the handful of men and women who know why Gandhi and MLK won?

00:13:47.260 Who have the peace, the love, the fortitude to march hand in hand into the jaws of hell?

00:13:53.300 Who have the, who is it now that has the faith to know that the gospel truths are the only shield you need?

00:14:03.720 Who will call out this evil by name?

00:14:08.680 Who will not apologize for what you know is true?

00:14:12.340 Let me tell you something.

00:14:14.920 All of the forces on earth are arrayed against you.

00:14:18.220 That is absolutely true.

00:14:19.820 It was reported today that the leaders of Black Lives Matter have spent millions on travel and consulting.

00:14:26.740 I was in the tea party.

00:14:28.280 We didn't have a hundred bucks between us.

00:14:31.180 And you know what?

00:14:34.100 This time we won't have any of that either.

00:14:36.640 But if we are united in our cause and humbly ask God for forgiveness and guidance, who could possibly stand against us?

00:14:45.320 Know this.

00:14:46.120 He will never be on our side.

00:14:49.560 We must be on his side.

00:14:52.180 And here's the great thing.

00:14:53.360 They are so delusional.

00:14:54.860 They think they've already won.

00:14:56.080 They're arrogant.

00:14:57.520 And in their arrogance, they will fail.

00:15:00.000 They want violence and chaos.

00:15:02.280 But if we fight fire with water, hate with love, chaos with peace, they will not know what to do.

00:15:09.500 And the world will watch as perhaps they haven't.

00:15:13.200 Since simple Americans put a man on the moon and Martin Luther King marched against actual racist cops.

00:15:20.960 The media, the elite academia, far too many in our local state and federal positions, they need you to feel small and insignificant.

00:15:33.100 That's what they've been doing to you for 15 years.

00:15:36.500 But you are not.

00:15:38.180 You have all the power.

00:15:39.980 Or they would have silenced you or me a long time ago.

00:15:45.020 They are afraid of you.

00:15:46.900 When we are one, we are unstoppable.

00:15:52.300 Never bet against a united America.

00:15:57.720 Sarah, blow off the spot. 1.00

00:15:59.620 I'll make it up later.

00:16:01.080 Pause for 10 seconds for the stations.

00:16:11.040 Here's what I want you to do.

00:16:12.700 I want you to go out and get the 5,000 year leap.

00:16:15.640 I haven't talked about it for a while.

00:16:17.400 I need you to read it.

00:16:18.480 I want you to learn it.

00:16:19.740 I want you to get a pocket constitution.

00:16:21.780 I want you to learn it and teach it.

00:16:23.560 I want you to get a Bible and read it and preach it.

00:16:26.440 You need to stand.

00:16:28.020 You stand proudly as an American.

00:16:30.540 This country is not evil.

00:16:32.640 You stand proudly with the truth.

00:16:35.440 You stand peacefully together.

00:16:37.380 You march like king.

00:16:38.920 You are not a racist.

00:16:40.960 This country is good.

00:16:42.220 We saved millions from the death chambers of Marxism, and we have millions more to yet

00:16:47.960 set free.

00:16:49.620 This is not about white versus black, or rich versus poor, or even left versus right.

00:16:55.100 This is simply about right versus wrong.

00:16:59.260 And I, for one, will not go over the cliff with the rest of humanity.

00:17:03.600 I know what's true.

00:17:04.940 I know what's right.

00:17:06.160 You will not silence my voice.

00:17:11.040 We were known the world over as people who did the impossible, as a force for light and

00:17:17.220 goodness, and we will be again.

00:17:20.440 But only if you stand now.

00:17:22.900 Only if you speak now with love and only what you know to be true.

00:17:28.520 It is time, America, to come out of the shadows.

00:17:33.140 It is time for your voice to be heard.

00:17:35.160 Take a stand.

00:17:38.740 Because if you do, together we will restore our sacred constitution and the promise of

00:17:43.940 the Declaration of Independence.

00:17:45.540 And we will reach higher heights of opportunity and equality.

00:17:49.340 Because that's the one thing we have in common with the protesters.

00:17:53.780 Except I think we actually believe in it.

00:17:56.620 Let us live up to our ideals.

00:18:08.940 Let us restore truth, justice, and the American way.

00:18:14.160 Let us live the constitution.

00:18:16.920 Let us all once again find these truths to be self-evident.

00:18:29.820 But let's do it together.

00:18:32.560 Let's do it in peace and love and with God's light, not man's.

00:18:38.060 And let us mutually pledge to one another our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.

00:18:47.920 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:18:59.080 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:19:01.040 It is the weekend of Father's Day, and I've been thinking about my father today.

00:19:07.240 And I've also been thinking a lot about, because of COVID-19, how many people have not seen their

00:19:12.700 father for a long time because he's elderly or in bad health.

00:19:17.240 And here comes Father's Day, and you're not going to be able to spend time with him again.

00:19:21.700 Meanwhile, my kids are just inviting people over to the house just to cough on me.

00:19:25.660 But that's a different story.

00:19:28.200 If you haven't seen your father for a while, I want to tell you something that StoryCorps has done.

00:19:34.500 They've created StoryCorps Connect, which allows people to interview a loved one remotely and

00:19:41.380 then upload it to the Library of Congress, where it becomes part of American history.

00:19:45.480 I think this would be a really cool Father's Day present.

00:19:48.340 I mean, my kids would never do it because they're sick of hearing me talk.

00:19:51.200 But the idea that you are talking to your dad about his life and then it's going to the

00:19:59.800 Library of Congress, I think would be a great, great present.

00:20:04.500 Telling your dad what he taught you and how you feel.

00:20:08.920 Now, the last time we had Dave Isay on with us from StoryCorps, we played a clip of his

00:20:13.780 son, Toby, who had coronavirus and was recovering.

00:20:17.380 And he was interviewing his grandmother remotely about what it was like to live through coronavirus

00:20:24.420 and her losing her grandmother to the flu epidemic of 1918.

00:20:29.560 If you're interested in doing this, go to StoryCorpsConnect.org and get started.

00:20:35.140 It's a great Father's Day thing.

00:20:37.620 StoryCorpsConnect.org.

00:20:39.640 Go there this weekend.

00:20:41.720 We have Dave Isay on and with us.

00:20:43.500 He's going to share a great Father's Day connection story.

00:20:47.320 First of all, Dave, how's Toby doing?

00:20:49.180 Hi, Glenn.

00:20:51.640 It's great to hear your voice.

00:20:53.000 Happy Father's Day.

00:20:53.920 He's 100 days in.

00:20:55.880 He's starting to get better.

00:20:57.220 It's been a long road.

00:20:58.620 But I really appreciate you remembering.

00:21:00.600 Thank you.

00:21:01.180 Yeah.

00:21:01.560 So he is 100 days and he's still not fully back?

00:21:06.300 Yeah, he's not.

00:21:06.940 He's not fully.

00:21:07.560 I think there's a lot we don't know about this illness.

00:21:10.680 He's not, you know, he's not deathly ill.

00:21:13.120 But the kid's still sick.

00:21:15.380 Yeah, it stinks.

00:21:16.900 It stinks.

00:21:17.540 That's incredible.

00:21:18.440 But I really appreciate you asking.

00:21:19.200 And he's doing better.

00:21:21.460 He's doing better.

00:21:22.080 Good.

00:21:22.440 Thank you.

00:21:23.240 Good.

00:21:23.740 I'm glad to hear it.

00:21:25.520 So I got to believe, Dave, there's a lot of people that don't get to see their dad this weekend

00:21:32.700 and celebrate Father's Day the way they would want to or the way we always have.

00:21:37.240 And I would assume that your traffic is going to be very, very heavy this weekend.

00:21:45.000 Can you give us a story?

00:21:46.420 I think we have William and Kimberly Weaver about Father's Day.

00:21:53.500 Is that right?

00:21:53.920 Can you set this story up so people hear what this is kind of like?

00:21:58.560 Sure.

00:21:59.060 So this is an interview that was recorded in Atlanta, Georgia.

00:22:02.660 And it's a dad talking to his daughter about his dad, Lynn Weaver's dad's name was Ted Weaver.

00:22:08.460 And he was a janitor and a chauffeur in Knoxville, Tennessee.

00:22:12.260 And Lynn wanted to talk about him to his daughter, the most important person in his life.

00:22:17.800 Here it is.

00:22:18.720 Listen, my father was everything to me.

00:22:22.140 And it's actually kind of difficult talking about him without becoming very emotional.

00:22:26.920 Up until, you know, he died, every decision I made, I'd always call him.

00:22:33.260 And he would never tell me what to do, but he would always listen and say, well, what do you want to do?

00:22:38.600 And he made me feel that I could do anything that I wanted to do.

00:22:42.420 I can remember when we integrated to schools that there were many times when I was just scared.

00:22:49.500 And I didn't think that I would survive.

00:22:53.920 And I'd look up and he'd be there.

00:22:55.740 And whenever I saw him, I knew that I was safe.

00:23:00.140 You know, I always tell you that your mama is the smartest person I've ever met. 0.95

00:23:05.480 But I think my father ranks right up there as brilliant.

00:23:09.540 When I was in high school, I was taking algebra and I was sitting at the kitchen table trying to do my homework.

00:23:15.200 And I got frustrated, so I just can't figure this out.

00:23:19.580 I'm just so my father said, what's the problem?

00:23:22.000 He came by.

00:23:22.620 He's what's the problem.

00:23:23.880 And I said, that's this algebra.

00:23:25.540 And he said, well, let me look at it.

00:23:27.360 I said that they didn't even have algebra in your day.

00:23:30.060 And I went to sleep.

00:23:31.620 And around four o'clock that morning, he woke me up.

00:23:34.100 He said, come on, son, get up.

00:23:36.680 He set me at the kitchen table and he taught me algebra.

00:23:41.320 However, what he had done is sit up all night and read the algebra book.

00:23:47.240 And then he explained the problems to me so I could do them and understand them.

00:23:52.700 And to this day, I live my life trying to be half the man my father was.

00:23:57.180 Just half the man.

00:23:59.260 And I would be a success if my children loved me half as much as I loved my father.

00:24:05.300 That is exactly how I feel if if my children would love me half as much.

00:24:19.080 It's a it's an amazing thing.

00:24:22.660 Dave went on to become Lynn went on Lynn went on to become chairman of surgery at Morehouse School of Medicine, a very famous, renowned surgeon.

00:24:32.540 He passed away last year and just like you, you wish you could talk to your dad.

00:24:38.340 I mean, I think, you know, this time of covid is a reminder that it's important, you know, to take the time to listen to the people we love and to honor them by saying, who are you?

00:24:48.460 How do you want to be remembered?

00:24:49.980 Because remember, your great, great grandkids will hear this someday.

00:24:52.900 So, yeah.

00:24:54.540 And I'm sorry about the loss of your dad whenever that was.

00:24:57.280 I lost my dad doing it.

00:24:59.880 It's tough.

00:25:00.600 It never really goes away.

00:25:02.500 Never really goes away.

00:25:03.920 No, you know, I have to tell you, my great, great uncle and great, great grandfather fought in the Civil War.

00:25:15.220 They fought for the north.

00:25:17.140 They were in Andersonville, both of them.

00:25:19.620 I mean, it's a typical back story.

00:25:20.940 They were fighting for like four days and caught and thrown into the world's worst concentration camp or or at least at that time.

00:25:29.900 And one of them died and the other one never really fully recovered.

00:25:34.920 And I only have one letter from my grandfather, my great grandfather's daughter who talks about it.

00:25:44.760 And it's just a quick paragraph and what I would give to hear their voices, to hear him being interviewed by his daughter now.

00:26:00.620 And that's the great thing that I want.

00:26:04.080 Please, I want you to understand storycoreconnect.org.

00:26:08.820 It's saved by the National Archives.

00:26:11.220 So it will live on forever.

00:26:12.860 And you're not just giving a gift to your dad, but you're giving your gift to your children, your children's children, their children.

00:26:20.320 They will actually be able to hear the voices of the people that you hold up now and say, these are the this is what I learned.

00:26:31.060 This is the principles that we lived our life on.

00:26:35.180 How remarkable would that be?

00:26:37.960 Dave, thank you so much for everything you do.

00:26:40.800 You're welcome.

00:26:41.560 Thank you, Glenn.

00:26:42.380 And Glenn, even if your kids don't want to interview you, maybe they can ask you about your dad and you could have that record for your great, great grandchildren.

00:26:48.380 So just a thought for the weekend.

00:26:50.620 Yeah.

00:26:50.860 Thank you so much.

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00:27:02.360 Nigel Innes, he is a civil rights leader, national chairman, Congress of Racial Equality.

00:27:11.740 We thought we would get him on.

00:27:13.420 We've been trying to get him on for a while.

00:27:14.800 I really respect his voice and his bravery for standing up now and talking about things that nobody really wants to hear, except I think the American people that are honestly trying to solve race relations and trying to get trying to get us to move forward.

00:27:36.700 And everything that is happening, I believe, is setting us way back.

00:27:41.760 Nigel, how are you?

00:27:43.780 Good morning, Glenn.

00:27:45.280 It's great to be on with you.

00:27:47.540 Thank you.

00:27:48.100 So please, please explain to me what's happening to the black community.

00:27:56.160 Do they do they actually agree with like what's happening in Atlanta?

00:28:01.600 We all agree on Minnesota, but do they actually agree with what's happening in Atlanta and what's happening now in our cities?

00:28:09.860 Is that the majority of black Americans?

00:28:12.160 No, I don't think it's the majority, but it is extremely loud minority that gets facilitated by the mainstream media into making people believe that it's an actual majority in the black community.

00:28:28.300 The reality is most of us in the black community, while many of us sympathize with the rank and file protesters, the overwhelming majority of which I think want to be peaceful and are trying to protect black lives, the overwhelming majority of us do not support violence.

00:28:49.200 We do not support burning down of a Wendy's that had absolutely nothing to do with that that that tragedy, that tragic case in Atlanta.

00:28:59.840 And listen, I was talking to another black leader and he was saying, you know, young what what's going on in our cities right now, what's going on in our country right now, where you create this animus between the police and the community in particular among young black men.

00:29:16.000 And the police is a clear and present danger to the lives and the safety of young black men.

00:29:23.320 It's a very dangerous time is very, very, very concerned.

00:29:26.060 Well, I'm concerned because this is this is a generational thing, and I think the next generation that's coming up behind this one is not going to be having the same kind of opinion if we make it that far.

00:29:42.240 And, you know, what are you going to do with this whole generation that is embracing Marxism and truly just trying to destroy the Western way of life?

00:29:54.520 That's all this is really about there.

00:29:56.800 There are, like you said, I think, really honest protesters, black, white, yellow, everybody that really see and say, you know, we we want justice.

00:30:07.060 We want justice for everybody and everybody should be treated equal.

00:30:10.560 And I think there are a lot of good people, but they're not paying attention to who's leading these things and who's funding these things and what they stand for.

00:30:20.660 They're being used.

00:30:22.000 Absolutely.

00:30:24.720 They are useful dudes.

00:30:26.940 They're innocent.

00:30:27.940 Their heart is in the right place, but they're being used.

00:30:30.720 Like you said, the founders of the BLM movement, Alisa Garza and the two others are very open.

00:30:40.540 I mean, here's the thing, Glenn.

00:30:41.560 It's not me saying bad things about them.

00:30:43.340 It's not you saying bad things about them.

00:30:45.400 It's what they say about themselves.

00:30:47.360 They are self-identified queer Marxist feminists with a particular agenda.

00:30:54.560 And if you don't believe Glenn Beck, don't believe Nigerianist, just go to the Black Lives Matter website and you will see from root and branch, you will see the entire Marxist playbook from deconstructing the nuclear family. 0.91

00:31:11.760 Which, by the way, is the one institution, the nuclear family, one dad, one mom in a household raising children.

00:31:20.660 That is the one institution that saved the black community for decades before the Civil Rights Revolution.

00:31:29.700 And Bob Woodson, who is another person you should have on very soon, a great civil rights icon, actually a peer of my father, he says that in 1965, before the war on poverty, 85% of black children were being raised in households with one dad and one mom.

00:31:51.360 And 80% of the fact of the matter is, pardon?

00:31:55.180 No, I was just going to say, if I'm not mistaken, didn't they have a better family, stronger family unit than whites in the early 1960s? 0.80

00:32:05.060 Yes, in the Great Depression, all the way to the beginning of the war on poverty, the nuclear families in black communities was higher percentage than the average white family.

00:32:19.020 And tragically, I think Lyndon Baines Johnson, his heart might have been in the right place, but actually the war on poverty ended up being a war on the black family.

00:32:29.640 And the breakdown of the black family is a direct connection to the socioeconomic ills in the black community that we have had ever since and that we have today. 1.00

00:32:41.200 So, Nigel, can I say something kind of controversial that I don't have any evidence of?

00:32:46.740 I've wanted to do the research on this and write a book, but I just I don't have the time, at least yet, but maybe before I die.

00:32:54.960 I really believe Johnson was one of the worst racists ever.

00:32:59.640 I mean, he's the guy who stopped the Civil Rights Act in 1959.

00:33:03.300 Never, never, never, never, if you look at what he said, even when he was president, the way he spoke about blacks and the and he was just an out and out racist.

00:33:14.820 And I find it interesting that he's the guy that delivers this and that this the progressive movement was also, you know, through through Planned Parenthood, trying to kill African-Americans for years, for decades.

00:33:29.840 And then all of a sudden, all of these people, they come together and they come up with a great society to help inner cities when the results are slavery.

00:33:43.440 The results are devastating to the black community.

00:33:46.460 Do you think there's a possibility that any of these guys knew exactly what they were doing when they when they put this civil rights bill together and or the great society?

00:34:00.020 Do you think there was a chance that they knew?

00:34:04.000 I think some of the progressives definitely did.

00:34:07.020 I actually think Johnson, who grew up a segregationist, I do believe he had a legitimate change of heart and he really did want to do something for poor blacks and whites for that matter.

00:34:20.480 But there was also a political calculation and it is rumored that during the passing of the of this legislation and the war on poverty that Johnson said that these in words will be wedded to the Democratic Party forever.

00:34:38.200 And that is insidious and that is disgusting.

00:34:40.620 And unfortunately, it manifested itself quite greatly.

00:34:44.760 You know, Glenn, you talked about a couple of days ago, as you can tell, I listen to your show, not even when I'm on.

00:34:52.980 Thank you very much.

00:34:54.940 You have a great program and you've done a great deal of education.

00:34:59.900 People should be calling you Professor Beck because you've done a great deal of civic and historic, historic information that the American people are not getting in our schools.

00:35:10.280 And you talked about the great Booker T. Washington and when he when he passed away in 1916, how it left a void in the black community in terms of bootstrap conservatism.

00:35:21.440 Actually, Marcus Garvey, who was a great Pan-Africanist, came in and stepped into the void to some degree.

00:35:29.660 But he was only in power for maybe five to six, seven years after he ended up being deported from the country and put in jail.

00:35:39.120 So there was a huge void in the black community and the socialists and the progressives latched on to the black community like leeches and have, you know, and even though the black community for many decades after that remained Republicans, disproportionately majority of us remain Republicans.

00:35:58.600 We were certainly pro-capitalist, pro-constitution, et cetera.

00:36:03.860 Inevitably, the progressives won.

00:36:06.520 Hopefully it's a temporary victory, but there's no question that they came to dominate black politics, came to dominate black leadership. 0.98

00:36:14.540 And it manifested itself in that war on poverty, which essentially became a war on the black family and ideologically speaking, became a war on the concept that had wedded the black American community to the essence of the United States for decades.

00:36:32.700 And that was the thing that helped us to survive during the worst parts of segregation.

00:36:39.680 Niger, what do you say to people like me or others that actually do care?

00:36:46.540 And I thought we've, you know, we're never going to achieve the utopian world of all men are created equal and endowed by their creator.

00:36:54.860 I mean, that is the greatest mission statement of all time.

00:36:58.040 And because we're flawed human beings, we will ebb and flow.

00:37:01.920 But for the most part, I really feel that we made great progress.

00:37:06.600 And the last 10 or 15 years have been a nightmare.

00:37:11.660 And we're we're being driven apart.

00:37:15.200 And yet there's a lot of Americans, white Americans, that they we want to make things better and we want to make sure that everybody has a chance.

00:37:26.860 What do you say to us who don't know what to do, don't know what to say and won't kiss the hand or kiss the ring of Marxist socialists?

00:37:40.440 I say have faith, have confidence.

00:37:45.300 We've overcome worse.

00:37:46.400 And I'm actually I'm tremendously optimistic, even though those in the mainstream media and some elements or most elements of what calls itself black leadership have a particular perspective.

00:37:57.980 The overwhelming majority of blacks, whites, Hispanics, Asian Americans, we get along.

00:38:05.180 We just want to go about our lives, make a living for our families, get our children to go to school or to trade school or get a good job.

00:38:13.540 That's what most of us want.

00:38:15.780 And the fact of the matter is, in terms of a multiracial, multiethnic, even multilingual republic that we're in, America is not a country.

00:38:27.740 It's a miracle.

00:38:28.520 I mean, you've had the pleasure, I've had the honor and privilege of traveling around the world.

00:38:34.140 There is nothing like America.

00:38:37.500 And the degree to which white Americans have changed and evolved and grown since the battle days is an amazing achievement on the part of the United States of America. 0.84

00:38:48.860 And I think it is because of our Constitution, it is because of our Judeo-Christian traditions that keep us on the right track.

00:38:57.600 You know, let's go to the nadir of race relations.

00:39:01.440 It would have to be, for black Americans, the Plessy versus Ferguson decision that essentially codified segregation and made it legal throughout the land. 0.56

00:39:11.180 Well, there was one dissent, and I like to call this guy the grandfather, the spiritual grandfather of Dr. Martin Luther King's statement, content of character.

00:39:21.100 And in that decision, it was eight to one.

00:39:23.960 Okay, it was almost unanimous.

00:39:25.820 But there was one dissenter, and that dissenter was John Harlan, a southerner, a southerner that had been pro-slavery, a southerner that changed, that evolved and grew.

00:39:37.960 And by the way, in his dissent, which I urge all of your listeners and watchers to read thoroughly, it's brilliant.

00:39:46.940 But in that dissent, he actually says, I'm a white supremacist.

00:39:50.760 I believe the white man is superior.

00:39:53.420 But essentially he said, but that does not matter.

00:39:56.940 Our Constitution is a colorblind document.

00:40:00.140 It is a document that says that when it comes before the law, the highest of the high is equal to the lowest of the low.

00:40:09.600 And that dissent, a thousand years from now, will be looked at, historians, as one of the greatest, it is, I think right now, considered one of the greatest dissents in our history.

00:40:20.520 And that concept and that vision is what Dr. Martin Luther King inherited and said from the Lincoln Memorial when he said, we should be judged on the content of our character, not the color of our skin.

00:40:33.460 And that concept and that vision is what should give Americans optimism and give us hope as we will overcome this nonsense that we're dealing with.

00:40:43.600 Talking to the National Chairman, Congress of Racial Equality, Niger Ines, Niger, one last thought.

00:40:53.640 Are we going to see a group of people led by a brave individual use the tactics that Martin Luther King used because they're violent?

00:41:10.140 Martin Luther King was peaceful.

00:41:13.560 Are we going to see somebody rise up that will teach people how to link arms and walk through the jaws of hell and take a beating if that's what it means?

00:41:24.680 Because the American people need to see, as Martin Luther King said, when the American people are shown good versus evil side by side, they will always go with good.

00:41:36.280 Absolutely. And I think it's not going to be one.

00:41:40.740 I think it's going to be several of us that I don't think it's going to be limited to one race.

00:41:45.500 I think it's going to be a multiracial coalition that represents the true majority of Americans that love our country, that love our Constitution,

00:41:54.620 that have a very happy that we have the Judeo-Christian tradition that we have, and we rest upon that, regardless of what your faith may be.

00:42:03.400 It is that tradition that protects us, that tradition, the Ten Commandments, which are universal in terms of morality.

00:42:12.260 That's what underguides us.

00:42:13.980 That's what gives us the foundation that we will use to achieve victory.

00:42:18.320 Nigel, when you find that group or when that group starts, I would be honored to march next or behind anyone that actually believes the things that Martin Luther King did

00:42:33.440 and march with you right through the jaws of hell.

00:42:37.800 Please consider me an ally on that.

00:42:41.020 Absolutely, Glenn. You're a good friend, a good ally, and you've done a great, great deal to educate the American people in ways that, unfortunately, many of our public schools don't do anymore.

00:42:53.460 Yeah. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it.

00:42:56.840 Niger Innes. 0.92

00:42:58.920 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:43:01.020 You want to talk about Anne Frank and anti-Semitism and the fear that Jews had back in the 30s.

00:43:16.940 You can point pretty much to de Blasio and New York.

00:43:23.300 I mean, there is a story that I read last night.

00:43:25.720 Oh, you know about the park, right?

00:43:27.160 That they chained the park up, and while everybody is looting Macy's, de Blasio is making an example out of this Jewish community that are letting their kids play in the park, so he locks it up.

00:43:43.300 De Blasio has targeted them for funerals and everything else, and he's always targeting these religious communities.

00:43:49.920 Well, on 10-10, was it 10-10 wins, or I think it was 10-10 wins, the two hosts in the morning got a tip from a neighbor of some Jews that noticed the Jews were going to school, and it's dangerous.

00:44:12.020 And 10-10 wins, and 10-10 wins, has led this investigation.

00:44:16.920 When riots are happening on the streets, when people are going out in parades in the streets, this small little Orthodox Jewish school is open and being spied on by the neighbors.

00:44:32.960 When we do know one thing about COVID, the least likely to have any kind of harm are kids.

00:44:43.120 Our kids are safe.

00:44:45.340 But no, no.

00:44:47.360 And I said to myself last night, I cannot believe that this group is so under the gun by de Blasio and the state of New York,

00:45:00.800 and they're always singled out.

00:45:03.740 And with all the other stuff that's going on with religious liberty, I can't believe there's not a lawsuit.

00:45:08.540 Well, there is a lawsuit.

00:45:11.960 And we have one of the guys, he's special counsel for the Thomas More Society.

00:45:18.500 His name is Christopher Ferrara.

00:45:20.620 Hi, Christopher.

00:45:21.200 How are you?

00:45:22.680 Hi, Glenn.

00:45:23.300 Thanks for having me on.

00:45:24.560 I appreciate the opportunity.

00:45:25.460 Sure.

00:45:26.780 You bet.

00:45:27.400 Now, you are a Catholic society, and you have joined with this Orthodox community, a couple of rabbis and a couple of priests, if I'm not mistaken, and you're suing New York.

00:45:41.860 Tell me about it.

00:45:43.720 That's right.

00:45:44.180 We're suing on behalf of a couple of Catholic priests in New York's North Country, which is up by the Canadian border,

00:45:49.500 and several practitioners of the Orthodox Jewish religion in Brooklyn, which is down south.

00:45:56.500 And the south are in phase one, moving into phase two of this cockamamie reopening plan, which has done nothing but destroy jobs.

00:46:04.560 And in the northern section, which is in phase three, we have somewhat looser restrictions on gatherings.

00:46:11.400 But nevertheless, religious gatherings in the state of New York are subject to peculiar restrictions.

00:46:17.540 So indoors right now, they're limited to 25% of capacity.

00:46:23.460 The only such limitation in all of the capacity limitations in this plan.

00:46:29.160 Various offices and other businesses are either at 50% capacity indoors or 100% capacity indoors, including homeless shelters, for example.

00:46:37.320 So we're arguing in federal court that there's a discriminatory application of these guidelines that impacts religion adversely.

00:46:45.980 And now, with the George Floyd demonstrations, thousands and thousands of people thronging the Brooklyn Bridge, the Manhattan Bridge,

00:46:55.320 Mayor de Blasio participating in a huge rally at Cabin Plaza.

00:46:58.960 We're arguing that those demonstrations, quite simply, exposed the whole regulatory regime as a total sham.

00:47:06.620 It's all theater.

00:47:08.000 Because there's nothing worse in terms of a super spreading event than thousands of people standing shoulder to shoulder, screaming and yelling.

00:47:17.200 And that's what they're permitting.

00:47:18.920 And when they're asked about it, Blasio and Cuomo both essentially say, and we have quotes from transcripts,

00:47:25.880 that while this is such an important movement, you see, this is a protest and injustice, and so we have to allow it.

00:47:33.380 And you know what?

00:47:34.240 Fine.

00:47:34.760 That's a First Amendment protected activity.

00:47:37.200 The argument we're making now is, yes, fine, let them protest.

00:47:42.620 But don't pretend that you're enforcing a generally applicable and neutral law at this point, because you're not.

00:47:50.940 You're creating massive exceptions for the protest activities you favor, and you're discriminating against, in particular, the Jewish groups in Brooklyn.

00:47:58.900 So at this very moment, while they're allowing mass demonstrations in the lower part of the state, in Manhattan, they're chasing Jewish children out of parks in Brooklyn, in the chain lines of parks.

00:48:11.800 So, Christopher, why do you think this is happening?

00:48:19.880 Why do you think that it is anti-religion, anti-Semitism, or do they not even believe the stuff that they've been shoveling for a while?

00:48:31.280 Why is this happening like this?

00:48:34.380 You know, we don't even have to get to the question of whether they harbor any specific animus toward religion.

00:48:39.740 What we do have to show is what is quite obvious now, at this point, that they're favoring secular activities over religious activities, for whatever reason.

00:48:49.680 So they make value judgments in favor of protests, and they make value judgments in favor of certain businesses and other activities, and they don't make the same value judgments in favor of religion.

00:49:00.800 Well, that means that the scheme of regulations is neither generally applicable nor neutral.

00:49:06.820 Now, what does that mean legally?

00:49:07.880 It means that if you have a system of exemptions and prohibitions, and the impact is on religion, you have to have a compelling state interest for that, and the regulations have to be narrowly tailored, so that you don't harm religion any more than is absolutely necessary.

00:49:24.940 Well, there's no narrowly tailored.

00:49:26.400 What's the narrowly tailored?

00:49:27.280 If they would have come out and said, hey, we understand your First Amendment rights, we don't condone this, we urge you to stay inside, and they were saying consistently the same kind of stuff, but they would have had to have a crackdown on it, because that's what they've been doing to the religious community. 0.85

00:49:47.560 If they would have done that, you would have had to have a hard case, but what they chose to do instead, how is this going to spend more than 10 minutes in court?

00:49:57.720 Well, there's an obvious problem, and it's a huge problem, and they can't overcome it.

00:50:01.840 Like I said a few moments ago, the fact that they granted this massive exception for tremendous demonstrations, thronging bridges and plazas, destroys the whole public health rationale for this entire cockamamie scheme of regulations, which is increasingly ridiculous, by the way, as the days go by.

00:50:18.880 Like, for example, you look at the office guidelines now for phase two, you're in an office, you have to be six feet away from all the other employees in the office, and if any of them comes closer than six feet, you have to slap a mask on your face right away, and then when the employee gets further away than six feet, you take the mask off.

00:50:36.480 How are you supposed to operate an office like that?

00:50:38.360 It's just a contraption of bureaucratic contrivances that gets dreamt up in some office somewhere.

00:50:46.000 So you're right about that point.

00:50:47.920 And if they had said, well, we'll just tolerate this because we can't do anything about it, but you really should stay home, that would be one thing.

00:50:54.520 But they're still defending it as just in itself that there are these mass demonstrations.

00:51:00.040 Just a couple of days ago, June 16th, the mayor was asked point blank, how do you justify allowing these massive protests when you don't let people gather outside bars?

00:51:10.320 And you know what he said?

00:51:11.480 I'll quote it for you.

00:51:12.960 I understand when people ask that.

00:51:14.720 And I think we just have to keep it in perspective.

00:51:16.920 We're seeing a social movement growing before our very eyes that's addressing 400 years of oppressive reality in this country, et cetera, et cetera.

00:51:24.840 So in other words, this is such an important movement.

00:51:27.220 Well, we just have to allow, but you can't congregate outside of a bar with 10 or 20 people.

00:51:32.240 So we'll allow 50,000 to march, but none of these block parties, please, because we have to enforce social distancing.

00:51:40.380 So that's why I say the whole thing is being exposed as a sham.

00:51:44.180 When it was put to the test of neutrality with a protest movement, it collapsed.

00:51:49.460 And now we see what it really is, just a bunch of value judgments masquerading as a public health regimen to meet with an emergency.

00:51:59.740 And it's not that at all.

00:52:00.880 So what is the goal of the lawsuit?

00:52:08.760 I mean, what is the, I think, best thing that we could expect coming out of this?

00:52:15.840 What would it change?

00:52:19.020 Well, let's talk about the outdoors first.

00:52:21.160 In New Jersey, Governor Murphy did the same thing.

00:52:23.520 He led these protests.

00:52:24.960 He praised these protests.

00:52:26.400 He said they're so important.

00:52:27.660 We just have to allow them.

00:52:28.700 But when the public outcry came, he at least had the honesty with Executive Order 152 to say that, OK, all outdoor gatherings are now conducted without limitation if they are for a religious or a political purpose.

00:52:44.720 So he said basically, oh, what was I thinking?

00:52:48.200 Yes, everybody has First Amendment rights to demonstrate outdoors or engage in religion outdoors.

00:52:53.880 So we're saying in the New York suit, the governor of New York and the mayor of New York City should have the intellectual honesty to do the same thing.

00:53:02.460 So there should no longer be any restriction whatsoever on any kind of outdoor gathering.

00:53:06.940 It just isn't justified.

00:53:08.720 There haven't been any spikes that we know of following these massive demonstrations.

00:53:14.020 And so where is the scientific or public health rationale?

00:53:17.740 It's gone.

00:53:18.300 So zero limitation outdoors.

00:53:20.780 What about indoors?

00:53:21.620 Well, we're arguing that if you can let homeless shelters operate at 100 percent capacity and they're filled with the older, more vulnerable populations who are sleeping overnight in the shelters or in the drop-in shelters and staying there all day long in close quarters, then how can you say that a synagogue or a church should be limited to 25 percent capacity?

00:53:45.960 It doesn't make any sense.

00:53:47.380 So we're arguing that the indoor restrictions should be eliminated and we should be treated the same as the most favored businesses under the scheme.

00:53:56.420 For example, supermarkets, bagel shops.

00:53:59.880 How's this for irony?

00:54:01.380 There's a bagel shop across the street from one of the synagogues in Brooklyn. 0.92

00:54:05.540 Bagel shop is packed with people.

00:54:07.660 You go across the street to the synagogue.

00:54:09.180 It was 10 people only before, and now they say 25 percent capacity, which, by the way, is with many of these small synagogues, that's the same thing because they only hold about 40 people.

00:54:21.140 So we're asking for a parity of treatment.

00:54:23.400 Treat religion the same as the favored businesses indoors. 0.95

00:54:26.740 Drop all the outdoor gathering limitations because they've basically already done that.

00:54:31.280 So there's no justification for picking and choosing which groups of people get to congregate outdoors.

00:54:36.580 Christopher Ferrara, thank you so much.

00:54:40.800 He's with the Thomas More Society and fighting for your religious freedoms, at least in New York.

00:54:48.820 And may there be a thousand of these that are brought around the country. 0.73

00:54:53.780 Christopher, thank you so much.

00:54:55.640 You're welcome.

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The Glenn Beck Program - June 19, 2020

Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Dave Isay, Niger Innis, & Christopher Ferrara ｜ 6⧸19⧸20

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