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00:00:00.500 Good to have you back. Thanks. It's good to have you back in the studio as well.

00:00:05.780 I was here. You were here for one day when I wasn't here.

00:00:10.020 You always have a way to excuse your absence.

00:00:14.480 You were gone for an additional week. That's your story.

00:00:18.160 Okay, you got it. You got it. It's like I'm working with Hunter Biden.

00:00:23.180 Which we found out while recording today's podcast.

00:00:27.160 Wow. Shocking development.

00:00:28.900 Apparently, really not going to go to prison or jail.

00:00:32.500 But really, it's only a misdemeanor now to not pay your taxes.

00:00:37.000 Have a four-year investigation.

00:00:40.540 Also, lie on your gun application.

00:00:44.820 Misdemeanors with, I wouldn't say good behavior.

00:00:49.640 Just behavior.

00:00:52.540 If he doesn't assassinate 50 people in the next 10 years. 0.99

00:00:56.160 I mean, he can be with hookers who crack and take bribes from China. 1.00

00:00:59.980 But, you know, there's some behaviors that they need changing.

00:01:03.520 Like, apparently, his carbon footprint is pretty high.

00:01:07.880 So, he's got to reduce that in someone else.

00:01:10.760 Not him, of course. He's important.

00:01:12.360 But in someone else.

00:01:13.040 You don't want to miss a second of today's podcast.

00:01:15.980 It's really good.

00:01:17.640 Very, very funny.

00:01:18.840 We have Dave Landau on with us.

00:01:21.860 We also, and some people are like, why are you talking about this?

00:01:25.220 I don't know.

00:01:26.540 We were talking to the guy who is bringing the woolly mammoth back.

00:01:32.500 I think there might be some ethical.

00:01:35.300 I have a couple of ethical qualms.

00:01:37.420 And the movie Jurassic Park that makes me go, we should talk about this.

00:01:43.340 We should talk about this.

00:01:44.820 And so much more on today's podcast.

00:01:47.840 Here it is.

00:01:48.260 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:02.840 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:05.320 Okay, everybody, I want you to just breathe deeply.

00:02:08.460 Okay, breathe deeply.

00:02:11.300 And after we give you the news, I want you to count to 10.

00:02:14.620 Maybe to 10 million.

00:02:18.260 There is news on the Hunter Biden front.

00:02:23.300 And it's glorious.

00:02:25.260 And here it is.

00:02:26.060 Oh, yeah.

00:02:27.220 The Trump-appointed U.S. attorney for Delaware has reached a plea agreement with Hunter Biden,

00:02:32.320 in which he's expected to plead guilty to two federal misdemeanor counts of failing to pay his taxes.

00:02:42.180 Biden also faces a separate gun possession charge that will likely be dismissed if he meets certain conditions,

00:02:52.420 according to court documents filed today.

00:02:55.580 Two sources familiar with the agreement told NBC News that it includes a provision in which the U.S. attorney has agreed to recommend probation for Biden for his tax violations.

00:03:04.500 Well, he's been such a good soul for so long.

00:03:06.980 I think, you know, just a light slap on the wrist for Mother Teresa will probably do it.

00:03:13.040 Legal experts also said that the tax and gun charges will likely not result in any jail time.

00:03:19.680 Well, there you go.

00:03:20.420 For President Joe Biden's son.

00:03:21.780 So now Joe Biden can go from my son didn't do anything wrong to my son.

00:03:28.240 OK, they pin some misdemeanor charges on him, but he pled guilty and he's paid his crime.

00:03:36.600 He's paid his his due to society.

00:03:39.480 He gets away with everything else.

00:03:42.580 Was that I mean, did we even I guess we've mentioned the tax charges before, but have we ever focused on that?

00:03:48.460 He did not pay his income tax for two years, two years.

00:03:55.840 Just didn't file.

00:03:56.780 Just didn't pay.

00:03:58.340 Had a what was it?

00:03:59.580 A six million dollar fine on it.

00:04:03.740 Somebody else just stepped in as a friend.

00:04:06.820 What happens?

00:04:07.400 People help you out.

00:04:08.220 All the need time.

00:04:09.800 People say, OK, here's six million dollars.

00:04:11.360 I pay that off.

00:04:12.120 And coughed up the six million dollars.

00:04:15.160 No strings attached.

00:04:16.060 And paid his six million dollar fine like two years after the fine.

00:04:23.720 Let me ask you this.

00:04:25.300 Are you still on the street two years after you haven't paid your income tax?

00:04:30.980 No, sorry.

00:04:31.800 Four years after you haven't paid your income tax.

00:04:35.440 Two years of amounting fine of six million dollars.

00:04:39.440 Are you on the street?

00:04:40.500 Have they done anything to you yet?

00:04:42.760 Let me ask you this.

00:04:43.840 If you are a you're on the street, if that's where they left your body, that's the only

00:04:49.560 if you're a drug abuser and current drug abuser and you go in and you try to buy a gun,

00:05:01.180 you fill out a a form for the United States government all over it.

00:05:09.540 It says if you lie about any of this, you can face up to 10 years in federal prison and face criminal prosecution.

00:05:21.700 If you knowingly make false statements, if you knowingly make false statements, criminal prosecution for a felony.

00:05:31.520 He's gotten off with a misdemeanor.

00:05:33.540 Now, I'm trying to figure that one out because his dad's really all up on making sure we don't have guns.

00:05:42.920 And yet his son lied on a document.

00:05:48.440 Signed his name to the document.

00:05:51.020 Say, no, I'm I'm I'm not a drug user.

00:05:54.040 Don't have any problems with that.

00:05:55.600 See, this is this is why they make these documents.

00:05:59.800 For instance, are you an illegal alien?

00:06:04.420 If you answered yes, you won't get the gun.

00:06:08.040 If you answered no and you're lying, you go to prison.

00:06:12.900 And these these questions are put in there to be able to trap you into several felonies.

00:06:21.320 OK, if you're going to lie about one, you're probably going to lie about a couple of other things.

00:06:25.480 And so each one carries its own penalty and they lock you up.

00:06:30.660 That's why you don't screw with gun laws.

00:06:33.400 Don't ever I don't know a single lawful person that has a gun that is legal.

00:06:42.120 I don't know a single person who doesn't sweat going into another state, making sure beforehand.

00:06:50.500 Am I legal in this state?

00:06:52.400 What is what?

00:06:53.380 How do I carry it when you bring it into an airport, which is completely legal and you have it legally separated in like fourteen hundred different boxes?

00:07:02.960 All of them locked.

00:07:05.080 You sweat your brains out because you could go to prison if you get it wrong.

00:07:10.540 Yeah, I used to live a block away from the border of New Jersey and Pennsylvania on the Pennsylvania side, which has much better gun laws than New Jersey does.

00:07:18.320 And I was terrified that I would bring my gun to the range or something in Pennsylvania and I don't know, leave it in my trunk.

00:07:26.340 Right.

00:07:26.820 And then drive across to get gas in New Jersey, which we did all the time.

00:07:30.380 And if you get pulled over over there and they go through your stuff somehow and find the weapon and come up with some chart, totally different laws.

00:07:38.380 I was terrified to take the thing out of the house because I was afraid something would happen and I would keep it in the car for five extra minutes.

00:07:45.100 I'll stop on the way home and get gas and cross that border.

00:07:48.160 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:07:49.300 Even though it would have no, I mean, we've seen people this has happened to that have gone to prison.

00:07:54.440 Moms who've gone to prison because they've just crossed the line like this. 0.87

00:07:58.720 And Hunter Biden is with all of the stuff.

00:08:01.800 His dad just gave a speech about how guns can just change their caliber.

00:08:09.240 He knows nothing about guns.

00:08:12.760 I've never seen that magic caliber changing gun, but he is all over wanting stricter restrictions on guns.

00:08:22.980 His son violates a pretty basic one that is clearly marked out on the paper where your signature is a felony, a felony to knowingly provide false information.

00:08:39.000 And he gets a misdemeanor.

00:08:41.040 And that doesn't even seem to be part of this.

00:08:43.420 Like they're just going to let him.

00:08:44.540 Those are just going to be dismissed if he meets certain conditions.

00:08:48.500 The taxes are the only thing that they're going after him on.

00:08:51.220 After all the things, think of what we've seen.

00:08:53.500 Way too much of Hunter Biden.

00:08:55.060 I don't, I never wanted to see this much of Hunter Biden, to be honest.

00:08:58.000 I didn't want to see the pictures that they put on TV like that one right now.

00:09:01.460 I'm looking up at Fox.

00:09:02.560 They just have a picture of him in a jacket.

00:09:04.420 I don't want to see that one.

00:09:06.360 But this guy is done and committed crime after crime after crime.

00:09:10.700 Most of them on video of his own cell phone.

00:09:13.860 And yet, none of this is going to affect him at all?

00:09:19.740 It's madness.

00:09:20.980 It's madness.

00:09:21.860 Madness is a great word for it.

00:09:23.320 Because if I feel like, I don't even understand the world I live in.

00:09:27.140 Right?

00:09:27.300 Like I feel like if I were to commit any one of the hundreds of crimes you've outlined that he's committed, I would be in jail for a long time.

00:09:35.480 Oh, a long time.

00:09:36.460 A long time.

00:09:37.120 You may not leave jail.

00:09:38.840 If we committed half, a quarter, of the crimes that he has committed.

00:09:45.680 I can't remember.

00:09:46.320 I saw a total just the other day.

00:09:49.280 It was like 400 and some crimes that are provable crimes.

00:09:54.360 We did not even 100 of those.

00:09:57.980 We would never see the outside of a cell.

00:10:01.200 Never.

00:10:02.040 Never.

00:10:02.360 And yet, this guy's just going to walk with nothing?

00:10:06.860 Nothing?

00:10:07.440 After all of this?

00:10:08.720 Is this really how this is going to end?

00:10:10.560 So, here is the latest poll.

00:10:13.700 Do you think that the FBI report from an informant alleging that Joe Biden took a $5 million bribe while he was vice president should be made public or kept secret by the FBI?

00:10:24.540 83% say the FBI should make it public.

00:10:28.800 Only 17% said it should be kept secret.

00:10:32.360 Most of those were members of the Biden family.

00:10:36.400 74% of Democrats, 82% of independents, and 92% of Republicans say the file should be public.

00:10:45.780 74% of Democrats.

00:10:51.060 This is not going to last.

00:10:53.740 The center cannot hold with this.

00:10:57.240 Only 45% of voters said the FBI is fully investigating the allegations.

00:11:01.420 Really?

00:11:04.020 A majority, 55%, said the Bureau is not really investigating.

00:11:11.880 That's amazing.

00:11:13.840 That is truly amazing.

00:11:15.760 There's more on a lot of these things, but let me just switch quickly to what happened in Montana.

00:11:25.800 The Highwood Creek Outfitters Gun Shop.

00:11:28.660 It's in Great Falls, Montana.

00:11:30.800 It's reopened for business.

00:11:32.600 It was raided by the IRS and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives last Wednesday.

00:11:43.660 Apparently, it was an IRS violation.

00:11:45.980 So, I don't know what that is because they came in and all they did was take all of the documents on showing who has purchased a gun.

00:11:58.160 That has nothing to do with the IRS.

00:12:00.540 So, what are you doing?

00:12:01.480 The owner has said that we've always had a good relationship with the ATF.

00:12:12.480 It's not worth not crossing every T or dotting every I.

00:12:17.600 And they just come in and they take 4,473 background check forms.

00:12:24.900 They include no financial information.

00:12:29.100 So, there's no discernible reason why the IRS would need those forms.

00:12:35.200 What they did is they took almost 5,000 Americans' personal information, seized it.

00:12:44.340 For what?

00:12:46.820 So, they can go hassle those 4,500 people?

00:12:51.940 Is that what it is?

00:12:55.600 The owner of this group says they have been the subject of the government surveillance for a couple of years.

00:13:01.980 He said, I have no idea or reason why.

00:13:07.060 I'm guessing it's political.

00:13:10.240 He said, I'm assuming that it's because of the style of weapons that we have and the press that is against them.

00:13:17.100 The current administration seems hell-bent on getting those guns out of the hands of average Americans.

00:13:22.260 He said, we have a reputation of dotting all the I's and crossing all the T's.

00:13:27.100 It's not worth doing things that are going to get you in trouble.

00:13:31.980 By the way, the IRS, thanks to the Senate, has hired the additional 80,000 agents that, for some reason, are involved in seemingly gun control.

00:13:49.980 Hmm.

00:13:50.320 But the good news is, let me just go back, breathe deep.

00:13:55.740 This too shall pass.

00:13:58.160 I don't think the Hunter Biden story is done by any stretch of the imagination.

00:14:03.460 This is all going to come back and roost.

00:14:10.020 And it won't be good when it does.

00:14:12.800 There will be jail time at the end for those who have blatantly broken the law and then used their political connections to get away with, well, everything except seemingly murder.

00:14:29.340 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:33.520 Ben, welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:35.240 How are you, sir?

00:14:36.560 I'm great.

00:14:37.360 How are you?

00:14:37.740 Thanks so much for having me.

00:14:38.860 You bet.

00:14:39.880 I hear from my people that your people are concerned that this is a gotcha interview.

00:14:47.420 I don't ever do that.

00:14:49.180 Uh, I don't invite people on my show, uh, at least without telling them from me in advance, it's going to be a tough interview.

00:14:59.700 So relax.

00:15:01.780 I am fascinated by what you're doing, but I also am very concerned about it.

00:15:07.120 And I want to hear what you, what you guys are thinking.

00:15:10.520 Cool.

00:15:11.120 No, I mean, at my, I guess PR teams and your people and my people, you know, they always have their opinions on things.

00:15:17.240 I mean, we're a pretty open book, right?

00:15:18.900 And we're pretty excited about what we're doing.

00:15:20.720 And, you know, we love to talk about it with, you know, not everyone loves what we're doing.

00:15:24.880 Right.

00:15:25.280 Uh, we've been, we've been very fortunate to have, you know, a lot of support, but, you know, I feel like it's our job to have conversations with all of the groups and really educate the people what we're doing and be transparent about it.

00:15:37.460 Right.

00:15:37.660 And, and then let people form their own opinions.

00:15:39.700 It's not really our job to persuade anyone one way or the other.

00:15:43.080 So I'm just, I'm just happy to be here.

00:15:44.740 Okay.

00:15:45.500 Um, so let's talk about what you're doing.

00:15:47.600 First, I want to state your company's mission and goal through technological and engineering breakthroughs in biosciences and genetics.

00:15:56.720 Colossal is accepting humanity's duty to restore earth to a healthier state while also solving for future economies and biological necessities of the human condition.

00:16:08.600 Colossal revolutionized history and will be the first company to use CRISPR technology successfully in the de-extinction of previously lost species.

00:16:22.040 On the journey, we will build radical new software tools and technologies to advance the science of, uh, genomics.

00:16:30.780 Is that how you say it?

00:16:31.580 Genomics overall?

00:16:33.400 Genomics.

00:16:33.900 Genomics.

00:16:34.560 Okay.

00:16:35.000 We are the leading, we are leading the new charge of bioscience.

00:16:38.120 We accept the responsibility.

00:16:39.440 We see the light at the end of it all.

00:16:42.040 What you're currently working on is amazing.

00:16:46.820 You are trying to bring the woolly mammoth back into, away from extinction and back into, uh, uh, life.

00:17:01.580 Why?

00:17:02.340 Yeah, I mean, so fundamentally we're working on three species, the woolly mammoth, the Tasmanian tiger, and the dodo.

00:17:10.760 Um, and we believe that de-extinction and bringing species back, leveraging all these genetic rescue technologies, not only can help bring these incredible animals back and help restore those ecosystems, but can actually develop technologies that we can use to advance conservation.

00:17:25.740 Uh, because conservation needs more money, it needs more tools, it needs more technologies, uh, because we could lose up to 50% of all biodiversity between now and 2050 if we're not careful, uh, as well as advance the same tools and technologies that can be applied to human healthcare and help from everything from cancer research to genetic engineering and getting rid of certain types of disease states, uh, in humans.

00:17:49.600 And so it's kind of a systems model thinking to kind of the, one of these big challenges that we think a lot of technologies will come from it that can benefit, uh, both conservation and, uh, uh, humanity.

00:18:02.520 Who's, who's your chief ethicist?

00:18:06.000 So Alta Charo, uh, uh, is one of our, she's our lead ethicist.

00:18:11.100 And we picked Alta because you can learn a lot from a critic.

00:18:14.320 And so we actually went after, uh, uh, to talk to, we after early, early on our journey, we went after Alta and a few other people because, uh, also specifically had debated George church years before on why you should not bring back a woolly mammoth.

00:18:28.840 And so we really want, we really want people like that, like informed critics that can help us do things in the most transparent way.

00:18:38.040 And also make sure that we're educating the general public in conversations like this on what we're doing and taking that feedback.

00:18:45.320 Okay.

00:18:46.000 Is, I mean, I don't mean to be flippant with you, but have you ever seen Jurassic park?

00:18:52.580 Uh, I actually have seen Jurassic park.

00:18:54.820 I've seen all of them there.

00:18:55.920 I'm a big sci-fi guy, you know, I've started most, all the companies I've ever started are technology companies.

00:19:00.800 So I'm definitely inspired by Jurassic park, which was a movie just to remind all the viewers.

00:19:07.420 Right.

00:19:08.020 But is there anything that you won't bring back into life?

00:19:11.740 I mean, you're bringing three species that have been extinct.

00:19:17.540 Uh, is there anything else you won't bring back in?

00:19:21.260 I think you need to be really thoughtful about the why behind what you're doing.

00:19:25.500 Right.

00:19:25.820 And so the species that we're working on served a purpose and filled an ecological niche in their local ecosystem.

00:19:33.980 Right.

00:19:34.420 And we're driven to extinction either directly or indirectly, uh, by mankind.

00:19:39.740 And so that's where we're really, the woolly mammoths were killed by man.

00:19:43.880 Um, yeah, early man actually hunted, uh, mammoths.

00:19:47.900 And what's interesting about elephants that most people don't realize is that they take 13 years to get to sexual maturity before they can breed.

00:19:56.200 And there's a 22 month gestation.

00:19:57.960 So you don't have to kill all the woolly mammoths or all an elephant population to, to push that species into extinction.

00:20:05.380 You just have to, uh, create enough that you get that downgrading effect, uh, through the population.

00:20:10.820 And then you get genetic bottleneck, which ultimately led to their extinction was genetic bottleneck and, and the species, meaning there wasn't enough diversity in the species to continue on.

00:20:20.980 Um, and so same thing with, you know, with the Dodo, we actually eradicated, uh, the Dodo.

00:20:26.640 Most people think that we, that we just ate the Dodo, but we actually, most of the Dodo's died because mankind actually brought in invasive species to Mauritius in the surrounding islands, uh, which actually, you know, killed a lot of the, uh, young as well as, uh, the eggs since they were laid on the ground, since they were flightless.

00:20:43.700 And then lastly, the Australian government paid people through a bounty program to eradicate the Tasmanian tigers.

00:20:50.800 And why would they do that?

00:20:53.300 Well, now, uh, you know, looking back on it, um, it was really driven by, uh, the sheep, uh, industry.

00:21:00.780 So all of the folks that were ranching were actually, they've proven now we're actually stealing and poisoning and killing each other's sheeps for competitive means.

00:21:09.360 They blamed it on the Tasmanian tiger, also known as the thylacine, uh, but there's no, uh, you know, data to suggest that the thylacine could even one attack a sheep or two eat a sheep, a smaller, you know, marsupials in kind of their, um, in, in their stack.

00:21:27.280 Okay.

00:21:27.380 So let me go back to the question.

00:21:29.100 Is there anything that you won't bring back?

00:21:32.260 Yeah.

00:21:32.720 I mean, there's lots of stuff that we won't bring back.

00:21:35.220 We're focused on these three species.

00:21:36.680 Right.

00:21:36.980 And so I think that there's, we get asked a lot of time about dinosaurs.

00:21:40.700 We also get, believe it or not, you can't, unfortunately for the people that love dinosaurs, you can't bring back dinosaurs.

00:21:46.620 There's no DNA.

00:21:47.920 It serves zero purpose to bring them back.

00:21:50.400 Uh, weirdly and really weirdly enough though, we get asked about the Megalodon a lot, which terrifies me that people would even ask that question.

00:21:59.640 My son would ask that question.

00:22:01.580 Yeah.

00:22:02.040 People ask that question.

00:22:03.340 And I'm like, do you really, assuming that we could, which we can't, why would you ever want, I mean, the ocean's already scary enough.

00:22:10.040 Why would you ever want something like that out there?

00:22:13.340 And so, so we have kind of a, uh, our ethical framework of, of what we focus on our species that can help restore existing ecosystems, uh, where mankind had a, uh, complete, uh, role in or partial role in their extinction.

00:22:28.900 So, so you, we have, okay, go ahead.

00:22:31.460 No, finish.

00:22:31.900 Go ahead.

00:22:32.780 No, no, I was just going to say we have some frameworks around it.

00:22:34.760 So there's a lot of things that you can't bring back and there's even more that we won't bring back.

00:22:39.640 All right.

00:22:40.080 So there, um, the, the woolly mammoth, you say hunted by early man, but the reason why you have the DNA is because they were flash frozen.

00:22:51.280 If I'm not mistaken, strangely, uh, way up, uh, north in, in Russia, is that correct?

00:22:59.340 Correct.

00:22:59.880 Yeah.

00:23:00.000 They were frozen in the permafrost.

00:23:01.740 And so what happens in the permafrost, unlike what happens in, you know, the rainforest and whatnot in the rainforest, you get this nitrogen oxygen cycle where things die to get quickly eaten or absorbed into the, into the forest floor.

00:23:14.900 Uh, and then it's kind of a rinse and repeat in the permafrost.

00:23:17.660 It's exactly opposite.

00:23:18.880 Things die.

00:23:19.840 They fall over.

00:23:21.220 Maybe they get partially eaten, but then they get covered with the next layer of snow or ice.

00:23:25.760 So it's really well preserved.

00:23:27.720 And so, I mean, we've, um, I have not been to Siberia, but Ariana Hussili and George Church, George being my co-founder, have actually been to Siberia.

00:23:35.960 And actually when they've extracted, uh, uh, mammoth carcasses, they still have like blood and tissue in them.

00:23:42.620 So we actually have a lot of tissue.

00:23:44.740 It does degrade over time DNA.

00:23:46.820 Um, but we actually have 54 mammoth genomes that we've acquired that we've used to build our reference genome.

00:23:52.660 That's kind of our guidebook for our engineering efforts.

00:23:56.780 Okay.

00:23:57.280 So is it true that they, that some of them were flash frozen with like buttercups in their stomach?

00:24:04.320 Yeah.

00:24:04.920 Yeah.

00:24:05.300 Uh, I don't know what was in their full microbiome and then their stomach, uh, when they died, but some of them froze nearly instantly, uh, and are incredibly well-preserved.

00:24:15.080 What, what, what would cause that?

00:24:18.340 Uh, there's so many theories, you know, on that, right?

00:24:21.620 Obviously, you know, it's cold, it's already, you know, sub-freezing temperatures up to negative 40, you know, in the winters.

00:24:28.020 And so if things stop moving, you know, mammoths and a lot of other species, uh, that, that can survive, you know, in not just the Arctic circle, but circle polar north, which is a little bit wider than the Arctic circle actually have different ways to produce things like hemoglobin and blood genetically than we do.

00:24:46.980 So they actually have the ability, uh, you know, to survive and thrive in those environments.

00:24:51.880 And we wouldn't even be able to breathe in some of those environments yet.

00:24:55.140 They could, but when that, when that system stops and everything stops moving in that heat generation stops, uh, everything freezes.

00:25:03.140 All right.

00:25:03.640 So when you look at, uh, bringing them back, uh, have you thought about the impact, the unknowns, you know, uh, who was it?

00:25:15.840 Rumsfeld said there's knowns and then the, the, the unknowns that are unknown, uh, have you thought about reintroducing a, a pretty large species back into the, uh, the ecosphere and, and the ramifications of that, that are not necessarily good.

00:25:37.280 Yeah.

00:25:38.380 Yeah.

00:25:38.900 I mean, you always have intended and unintended consequences with whatever you do.

00:25:43.320 If you look at probably one of the most successful rewilding campaigns, rewilding the process of reintroducing a species back into its native habitat that no longer exists there.

00:25:53.240 One of the most successful rewilding campaigns of all time with relatively large animal being, you know, the gray wolf was back in Yellowstone where we as humanity reintroduced wolves back in Yellowstone, uh, after 70, after we called them 70 years.

00:26:07.260 And that has led to a complete blossoming of that ecosystem.

00:26:12.180 It's actually added more.

00:26:13.520 Right, right, right, right, but wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let's not, wait, let's not gloss over.

00:26:17.100 Cause I remember when they were taken and my grandfather said, what the hell are these people doing?

00:26:22.340 You can't collapse an ecosystem like that.

00:26:25.200 Everything works together.

00:26:26.920 It was the scientist that first said, we've got to get rid of the wolves and it's going to be fine.

00:26:34.640 Uh, and it didn't work out that way.

00:26:36.320 And the people that I grew up with that are just, you know, farmers and hunters and everything else were like, you cannot remove the wolves.

00:26:45.160 So your grandfather was right.

00:26:47.140 And not look, just cause you're a scientist and you have a PhD does not mean you're right.

00:26:51.260 Right.

00:26:51.680 Yes.

00:26:51.980 We are.

00:26:52.360 We aren't right about everything.

00:26:54.160 Uh, our teams, I'm not a scientist.

00:26:56.060 I'm just, I just have the fortunate, you know, ability to work with really smart people doing really interesting things, but fundamentally science, just cause you're a scientist doesn't mean you're right.

00:27:05.600 Lots of scientists have done lots of weird things.

00:27:08.480 Um, your grandfather and the people that you grew up with were a hundred percent, right.

00:27:11.880 We need to respect nature and you need to assume the system works for a reason.

00:27:17.720 And when we interfere with it to your question, you know, there are consequences.

00:27:22.040 And so with what we do know right now about the tundra and the Arctic is that it's a completely degraded ecosystem.

00:27:29.500 But what we know from all of the research of that land is it used to be kind of like Yellowstone.

00:27:35.180 It was full of different large cold tolerant megafauna like mammoths and mastodons and muskox and whatnot.

00:27:42.760 So if we can return those animals, we hope that will help, you know, uh, replenish that ecosystem and build a better, uh, diverse ecosystem.

00:27:50.800 And they've done little experiments like this over time, including, uh, in, uh, a place called Pleistocene Park, where they've reintroduced cold tolerant megafauna, not mammoths yet.

00:28:01.080 Right.

00:28:01.400 Uh, and they've actually seen the benefit of the Arctic grasslands start to come back.

00:28:06.800 So I have to tell you, I'm really torn on your research.

00:28:09.740 It's easy to say really bad idea.

00:28:12.820 Um, but you make a good case.

00:28:14.960 Uh, and so I, I am torn on it, but I'm, I'm a guy who thinks what Bill Gates is doing.

00:28:20.560 Working with mosquitoes is a bad idea.

00:28:24.320 Wait, we're going to just easier.

00:28:26.380 Yeah, but we, it's a lot of, oh, sorry.

00:28:28.360 That's food for a lot of animals. 0.99

00:28:30.480 A lot of animals, bats come to mind.

00:28:34.120 Yeah.

00:28:34.580 And it's a lot easier to roll back, uh, an unintended consequence from a multi thousand pound animal than a mosquito.

00:28:43.200 Right.

00:28:43.600 Like when you start to look at the world of genetically modified organisms or, or GMOs, you know, I think that, you know, we don't have as many, I think challenges.

00:28:53.800 We have different challenges, but it's a different set of challenges than people that are working with like mosquitoes or gene drives, where they really have to be mindful of the unintended consequences.

00:29:03.800 The best of the Glenn Beck program is touring all the time, uh, which I think he's, that's the reason really, he's only working a three day week.

00:29:13.100 What a slouch.

00:29:13.900 Uh, he's going to be in, uh, Jacksonville, Florida on July 14th and 15th for his comedy show.

00:29:21.460 And he's bringing his comedy show, uh, different kind, normal world, uh, on blaze TV.

00:29:28.160 It airs tonight, beginning tonight at 10 PM.

00:29:32.000 Here's a clip of just the opening.

00:29:35.500 Hi, and welcome back to turning the page with bill Turner.

00:29:39.580 And I'm Selena Gomez.

00:29:41.240 An arrest has been made in the carjacking that happened on Bunker Hill earlier today.

00:29:47.220 The man apprehended was Hector Martinez, a 33 year old Mexican immigrant who was in the United States illegally.

00:29:54.980 Authorities are looking into possible ties to white supremacy and getting him amnesty.

00:30:01.580 Wait, what?

00:30:03.740 Thank you, Bill.

00:30:04.920 Today, a 45 year old Korean man was beaten severely by a pair of teens while jogging through Angel Park.

00:30:10.560 The teens, likely white supremacists, have been identified as Lamarcus Washington of Franklin Heights and Lil Starburst from SoundCloud.

00:30:19.040 They were taken into custody and immediately released on zero dollars bail.

00:30:23.000 How is that white supremacy?

00:30:25.100 Bill, we're not here to ask questions with journalists.

00:30:27.520 Now, here's some weather with Buck Wilde.

00:30:30.020 I hope you're bringing us some good news here, Buck.

00:30:32.260 Wish I could, Selena.

00:30:33.580 But we are under a tornado watch in effect until 10 PM.

00:30:36.660 For those of you that don't already know, a tornado is a narrow, violently rotating column of air that emanates from the deeply embedded systematic racism of our country.

00:30:44.840 The funnel is made up of water droplets, dust, and seething white rage.

00:30:48.600 If you're in the path of this storm, we advise that you take shelter immediately.

00:30:53.360 Unless you're outside fighting racial injustice.

00:30:55.720 In that case, you should be just fine.

00:30:57.760 All right.

00:30:58.320 That is beginning tonight.

00:31:00.120 Dave Landau in Normal World.

00:31:04.360 Hi, Dave.

00:31:04.720 How are you?

00:31:05.240 Good.

00:31:05.500 How about you, sir?

00:31:06.220 Well, you know, pretty good.

00:31:07.620 Good.

00:31:07.960 Better now that you're here.

00:31:09.100 Thank you.

00:31:09.600 You are really funny.

00:31:11.320 Thank you very much.

00:31:11.940 Really funny.

00:31:12.200 And I hate to admit that because many people who are fans of mine would then check you out and go, he's so dark. 0.98

00:31:20.480 Yes.

00:31:21.600 Yeah, I'm not for everybody.

00:31:23.200 No.

00:31:23.580 That's a good thing about comedy.

00:31:25.000 I can't tell you.

00:31:26.240 I was on vacation and I can't tell you how many times, and I gave you credit each time, believe it or not, how many times I said, yeah, my, you know, things are, we were talking about things getting really dark.

00:31:38.560 And I used your line about your son coming to you and saying, I finally know what I want to be.

00:31:44.560 Yeah.

00:31:45.060 And yeah, I just tell him, like, look, it doesn't matter.

00:31:49.540 Like, son, I don't know if you, I know you don't watch the news because you're eight, but look, just enjoy the moment because you're not going to make it.

00:31:55.760 Nobody's going to make it.

00:31:57.300 Just.

00:31:59.980 It is really, for me at least, the only way I can deal with it.

00:32:04.200 It really is.

00:32:04.860 The only way you can deal with anything now is through comedy.

00:32:06.900 I mean, if you don't laugh at it, you're just going to have to look it in the eye in a different way, which I don't know.

00:32:12.040 Humor is the only way I can look at anything.

00:32:14.000 It's like that, where every news story I kept saying was you would see, like, a name that was clearly not a white guy.

00:32:20.560 And they're like, we're looking into white supremacy.

00:32:22.180 What makes this funnier, if you're listening to us, if you saw the visuals, the first guy was wearing, like, a giant sombrero.

00:32:32.900 Clearly, clearly not in the Klan.

00:32:37.420 Yes.

00:32:37.820 Yeah.

00:32:38.240 And just for the audio, obviously, a guy from SoundCloud whose name is Starburst.

00:32:42.780 They're like, we're going to make sure they're just looking into ties with the Nazis.

00:32:45.780 So, you used to be with Steven Crowder.

00:32:53.120 You worked with him for a while.

00:32:55.000 Two years, yeah.

00:32:57.280 How many shows did you guys produce a week?

00:33:00.840 We did four for a long time, yeah.

00:33:03.640 So, you're doing three.

00:33:04.680 Three now, yes.

00:33:05.420 And you've got a good crew with you.

00:33:06.780 I have a great crew.

00:33:07.760 I'm very lucky.

00:33:08.560 I have Matt McClary writing, who's a great comedian, very dark as well.

00:33:12.380 And then, obviously, Quarter Black is my co-host.

00:33:16.600 And it's just, it's a really great crew.

00:33:19.320 Angela's on the show.

00:33:20.980 It's really great.

00:33:23.620 Does it ever bother you that shows, you know, like, I don't know, Stephen Colbert have, like, 70 writers?

00:33:30.980 Yes.

00:33:31.800 Because they come up with nothing.

00:33:34.100 That's why it's during the writer.

00:33:35.780 Don't you think, man, I got to get on that.

00:33:37.800 Because I might write one good joke a month, and I'm good.

00:33:43.000 Well, it's because they don't actually hire based on talent.

00:33:45.960 They hire based on, I guess, looks, if you want to say it.

00:33:49.220 They're like, okay, you fill an exact bracket.

00:33:52.420 That's why when the writer's strike happened, what do you guys want more?

00:33:56.920 It's like, you're not producing anything, so they want you, they want to raise.

00:34:00.580 It's like, wow.

00:34:01.020 Would you ever do that while ChatGPT is just out?

00:34:06.540 No.

00:34:06.660 I mean, everybody's talking about, man, this thing could write anything.

00:34:11.620 We're going on strike as writers.

00:34:13.820 Yeah, they're like, this is terrible that this soulless robot's doing a better job than us.

00:34:18.400 It's completely unfair.

00:34:21.160 It basically just looked at them and said, oh, we can just take every single niche and then write the exact joke that you did.

00:34:28.040 A robot.

00:34:28.900 Right.

00:34:29.240 Yeah, it's completely sad that it figured it out, the rhythm.

00:34:33.600 Are you married?

00:34:36.080 I am.

00:34:36.460 Wow.

00:34:38.060 You found somebody that would live with you.

00:34:41.220 I did, yeah.

00:34:42.240 And is she happy?

00:34:43.560 No.

00:34:44.340 Yes.

00:34:45.300 No, no.

00:34:46.160 Well, we're married in the sense of, you know, when I go on the road, we give a nice firm handshake.

00:34:51.100 Right.

00:34:51.720 Right.

00:34:52.020 You're at that stage.

00:34:52.880 Give each other a kiss.

00:34:53.760 It's like I'm saying goodbye to my grandma for the last time.

00:34:59.620 Did she see your act before you got married?

00:35:04.560 Yeah, we met at Second City in Detroit.

00:35:07.380 Yeah, when they used to be there.

00:35:08.660 Yeah.

00:35:08.900 Wow.

00:35:09.380 Back 20 years ago.

00:35:11.120 So she was in the audience or she was?

00:35:14.560 Actress.

00:35:15.360 She was an actress.

00:35:16.160 Yes.

00:35:16.760 Wow.

00:35:17.220 Yeah, and gave it up.

00:35:18.460 Wow.

00:35:18.840 That's a comedian and actress. 1.00

00:35:20.640 Yes.

00:35:21.160 Please don't have children.

00:35:22.300 Oh, we did.

00:35:22.760 Oh, good.

00:35:23.840 Yeah, we have one.

00:35:24.720 Yay for humanity.

00:35:27.160 That's why I tell him there's no hope.

00:35:29.260 Because the doctor looked at me and said, you know, you don't have any for him.

00:35:35.800 Are you going to have more children?

00:35:37.220 No.

00:35:38.220 That's not really because of that.

00:35:39.620 I just took him to Chuck E. Cheese once and I was like, one's enough.

00:35:43.820 I was playing skee-ball trying to win enough tickets to get a vasectomy.

00:35:49.500 It is truly soul killing.

00:35:51.300 It is.

00:35:51.800 Once you see, I don't understand.

00:35:53.900 I never understood.

00:35:55.140 I mean, the mouse, Mickey Mouse, I get.

00:35:56.980 It's kind of cute. 0.72

00:35:58.380 That's a rat.

00:35:59.640 Yes.

00:36:00.240 It's not.

00:36:01.340 No.

00:36:01.440 It's like a really, really poor, maybe in an African country kind of mascot. 0.92

00:36:10.440 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:36:10.980 You're like, look at the dirty rat. 0.99

00:36:12.780 Oh, he's nice. 1.00

00:36:14.120 Oh, he's filthy. 0.98

00:36:15.900 And he wants to take your kid. 1.00

00:36:18.560 Your kid wants to take a picture with vermin.

00:36:21.280 What a nice place.

00:36:22.480 Does it, I mean, we are in such a different, we are in such a different place now than we

00:36:28.220 used to be.

00:36:28.780 I was telling somebody the other day that when I was 15, 16 years old until I was 18, I worked

00:36:36.160 with one of the most brilliant men in this industry, Michael O'Shea.

00:36:42.940 Oh, for sure.

00:36:44.180 And you know him?

00:36:45.120 Yeah, I know of him.

00:36:45.960 Of him, yeah.

00:36:46.560 And he taught me everything.

00:36:49.960 And he would spend so much time.

00:36:51.700 He was a vice president of company, and I was a nobody, okay?

00:36:56.160 Now, if you did that, people would be like, what the hell is he doing, that 16-year-old

00:37:01.340 boy?

00:37:01.880 Right.

00:37:02.360 You know what I mean?

00:37:03.880 I mean, you see people together, and you're like, what's going on over there?

00:37:08.400 Well, if it was Bryan Singer, you'd just be like, it's his friend.

00:37:15.040 Did you see Hunter Biden?

00:37:18.300 The charges?

00:37:19.540 Oh, he has charges now?

00:37:20.860 Oh, yeah.

00:37:21.240 They charged him this morning with two misdemeanors.

00:37:25.540 Oh, is that it?

00:37:26.660 Yeah.

00:37:29.120 Oh, that's good.

00:37:29.960 They finally got him for a parking violation?

00:37:32.160 Yeah.

00:37:32.720 No, not paying his taxes.

00:37:34.860 Two charges of not paying his taxes.

00:37:37.220 Oh, did they read the book?

00:37:41.380 Yeah, it's weird.

00:37:42.900 And then something on guns, right?

00:37:45.040 A gun charge that is going to be dismissed with certain behavior if he acts a certain

00:37:50.980 way, apparently, in the future.

00:37:52.260 Pleasant.

00:37:52.760 I don't know.

00:37:53.340 He's got to be personable. 1.00

00:37:54.360 He's got to smoke crack and hang out with hookers. 1.00

00:37:57.020 Right. 1.00

00:37:57.340 And then it'll all go away.

00:37:58.900 Is it the one where he left it in a trash can outside the elementary school?

00:38:03.560 No, that was his then-girlfriend, former brother's wife that did that.

00:38:09.680 Oh, okay.

00:38:10.580 So, that's okie-dokie. 0.85

00:38:11.600 Yeah.

00:38:11.820 Okay.

00:38:13.540 He just left it unlocked in his glove box.

00:38:17.260 She took it out and then threw it away in the trash. 0.93

00:38:20.480 Oh, sure.

00:38:21.720 This one has to do with his having a gun while having an addiction.

00:38:26.260 Yeah.

00:38:26.460 Oh, yeah.

00:38:26.860 That's what this one is.

00:38:27.880 Back to him lying when he bought the gun, saying, I'm not high.

00:38:31.900 Look at me.

00:38:35.680 I've definitely been high and bought drugs off of somebody who's had a gun because I'm

00:38:40.460 in recovery.

00:38:41.280 Yeah.

00:38:41.600 But, yeah, I've never been in that.

00:38:42.840 Like, that's the only part where I empathize with him in the slightest bit is because I

00:38:47.380 was an addict.

00:38:48.280 But he's so beyond the point of me being understanding at this point.

00:38:52.320 Is this why I'm actually really disgusted with his family?

00:38:57.260 Yes.

00:38:57.900 Because.

00:38:58.700 He enabled him beyond anything.

00:39:00.380 Beyond all imagination.

00:39:02.840 Yes.

00:39:03.180 He clearly has a problem.

00:39:05.260 I think, I mean, why would you take videos of you committing crimes and then keeping it

00:39:12.220 along with all the crimes that you're doing with your father, who's vice president of the

00:39:17.280 United States?

00:39:17.780 Why would you do that unless you either don't trust your father and so you're holding it

00:39:23.240 as evidence, which I think is good, or you just, you are crying out for help or want

00:39:29.880 to destroy, want to stop.

00:39:31.420 If you're leaving laptops for a geek squad with all that evidence on it, you're begging

00:39:37.360 your dad to hug you.

00:39:38.660 Yeah.

00:39:39.280 You know what I mean?

00:39:40.000 You really are.

00:39:40.740 Well, but not too vigorously.

00:39:42.120 Well, no, no.

00:39:42.740 You're not begging him.

00:39:43.220 Not in the shower.

00:39:43.980 Yes.

00:39:44.180 I was going to say, you're not trying to get it.

00:39:45.820 You're not, well, that's Ashley. 1.00

00:39:48.460 You're like, that's scary, isn't it?

00:39:51.380 These people could get away.

00:39:52.840 I mean, you wouldn't survive.

00:39:55.460 No one would survive the amount of evidence just in her diary.

00:40:01.900 Yes.

00:40:02.300 Saying, I think dad abused me.

00:40:04.220 I have recollection of being in the shower with dad.

00:40:07.600 You wouldn't survive just in social circles, let alone still be president of the United States.

00:40:15.180 I mean, absolutely not.

00:40:16.400 If Trump has an empty Nike box, they're trying to bring on federal charges.

00:40:20.860 You know what I mean?

00:40:21.480 Yeah.

00:40:22.060 Then this guy, he parks his car next to just documentation of the worst things possible.

00:40:27.840 Yeah, but it was a Corvette.

00:40:28.820 It was a classic Corvette.

00:40:29.800 That's true.

00:40:30.020 So, you know, I mean, you keep that pretty secure.

00:40:32.020 I agree.

00:40:32.540 I do like the car.

00:40:35.140 Granted, him behind the wheel of it is the scariest thing imaginable.

00:40:38.340 So, is it harder to do a comedy show now because life is parody?

00:40:49.900 I mean, it's like you say you make up some crazy idea and it's funny.

00:40:56.780 It happens tomorrow.

00:40:59.300 It's so good.

00:41:00.500 I mean, part of it is and isn't because of the fans who come out and see me are already

00:41:05.040 fans of me, but you do get people in the audience who don't know what I do and either

00:41:09.820 they're going to like it or sorry for that.

00:41:11.800 Oh, yes.

00:41:12.180 Yeah.

00:41:12.500 And then some people get very angry.

00:41:14.220 Like even you'll even say a line that's very simple.

00:41:16.560 Like I have a boy for now, you know, and just kind of toss it out like that to get a

00:41:21.320 feel like those are the things that I absolutely love.

00:41:24.180 You just you will say something that is so outrageous and instead of recognizing it, you

00:41:31.520 just move on and you say something else even more outrageous.

00:41:34.940 Right.

00:41:35.580 I mean, you're just building.

00:41:37.420 I mean, I don't know how you're not probably an actual prison, not just Twitter prison,

00:41:44.120 but actual prison.

00:41:45.980 It's odd.

00:41:46.540 It's nice that we have freedom of speech somewhat.

00:41:49.300 That's the problem is it is going away because people pretend it's not, but it is.

00:41:54.180 And you notice that.

00:41:55.300 And even on stage like last week in Austin, like even right after I made that joke, I

00:41:58.840 said, no offense to, I don't know, half of you.

00:42:01.180 And then you do see a couple of people in the audience who get it, but you'll notice somebody

00:42:04.920 who's transgender and you're kind of go, OK, I wonder if they're going to let. 1.00

00:42:08.260 And then they do.

00:42:09.020 And you go, OK, but then the person who does get offended is somebody who you don't think

00:42:13.180 would.

00:42:13.960 And that's the person who walks out.

00:42:15.960 You can never tell who's going to have a sense of humor.

00:42:18.200 How many times before all of this madness, how often did you have people walk out?

00:42:24.840 Oddly, not that much.

00:42:26.000 OK.

00:42:26.640 Not that when it became virtue signaling, like I had a guy at us in Tacoma who stood up

00:42:32.480 and it was during a bit.

00:42:33.420 I was talking about the female athlete, male to female.

00:42:37.640 Yeah.

00:42:38.200 And no, just male to male.

00:42:40.100 Yeah.

00:42:40.320 Male to male.

00:42:41.040 And wearing a female swimsuit. 0.98

00:42:42.600 Correct.

00:42:43.100 The one who looked like Howard Stern.

00:42:45.120 She was lovely.

00:42:49.180 You know, the one that you could recognize her because she was the one wearing all the 1.00

00:42:53.360 gold after the meet.

00:42:56.000 And I said, and the whole joke, I said, if I was to compete as a woman, I wouldn't be

00:43:00.220 taking home any trophies. 0.89

00:43:01.940 They'd just be like, who's that fat girl? 0.99

00:43:03.920 I think she has emphysema. 1.00

00:43:07.940 Her testicles are hanging out of her bathing suit. 0.99

00:43:11.380 And they're like, that's Deva. 0.99

00:43:14.220 She's always in the shower watching us.

00:43:19.420 OK.

00:43:19.940 All right.

00:43:20.300 All right.

00:43:20.580 All right.

00:43:20.600 All right.

00:43:21.060 That's why the show airs at 10 p.m.

00:43:23.360 Sorry.

00:43:24.300 10 p.m.

00:43:25.640 Make sure that you find it.

00:43:27.360 He is really funny.

00:43:28.900 But this guy stands up and he goes, this is the most homophobic show I've ever seen.

00:43:33.980 You can tell he's trying to rile up everybody in the crowd.

00:43:36.060 And I said, and he's pulling out his camera and I go, how am I making fun of me? 0.50

00:43:40.740 And you can tell her there are gay people in the crowd.

00:43:42.820 And he's trying to get a video on me.

00:43:45.980 And they all agreed.

00:43:48.720 And he's like, no.

00:43:49.920 And he's trying to get the phone.

00:43:51.080 And I go, no.

00:43:51.840 What part of that was me making fun of anybody else but me?

00:43:56.380 And he's like, no, you are making fun of it.

00:43:58.040 This is the most anti-LGBTQ show I've ever been to.

00:44:00.640 I go, explain to me where that made fun of anybody else but my physical appearance.

00:44:07.140 And then he storms out because he starts putting his phone away.

00:44:10.940 Gets to the bouncer.

00:44:12.100 And the bouncer's like, you have to pay your tab.

00:44:13.980 You can't just leave.

00:44:17.060 So then he goes, I may have overreacted.

00:44:19.520 I want to go back in.

00:44:20.460 He goes, that's not how this works.

00:44:21.840 So it was just amazing, though, for him to get called on that, you know, because it's

00:44:28.260 like he wanted, he did it on purpose to get his own video to get hits and to get clicks

00:44:33.740 on me.

00:44:34.200 It does seem like a brilliant way to get out of paying a tab, though.

00:44:36.620 It does.

00:44:37.000 I mean, it's going to work sometimes.

00:44:38.860 I'm sure it does work for some people where they're like, oh, it's great.

00:44:42.280 That's how you just get a free meal.

00:44:44.400 It's my virtue signaling.

00:44:46.020 Your white claws on us, sir. 0.52

00:44:47.460 But remember, it doesn't happen at a Dave Landau show.

00:44:49.980 The program is called Normal World Blaze TV, reclaiming late night with a new show, Normal

00:44:57.320 World.

00:44:58.220 You can find it at Blaze TV.

00:44:59.800 Also, the website is YouTube.com slash at normal world.

00:45:04.520 Make sure you watch it.

00:45:05.680 It'll air every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 10 p.m.

00:45:10.320 Worth the watch.

The Glenn Beck Program - June 20, 2023

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Dave Landau & Ben Lamm ｜ 6⧸20⧸23

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