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00:00:00.000 Hey, great podcast today for you. If you're into space and UFOs, believe it or not, we start there because Congress is having open hearings on UFOs.

00:00:10.360 Not that that's going to matter, but it actually kind of does matter, especially when it comes to our schools.

00:00:19.020 And we tell you what's what the latest is with your science teachers and the National Science Teaching Association.

00:00:26.880 Yeah. Holding seminars, instructing teachers on how to queer their classroom. 1.00

00:00:33.800 Also, more trouble in Virginia schools. You've you've got kids in middle schools, middle schools that are now being charged with sexual harassment because they won't call their friend of them.

00:00:49.840 They. And when you see the ramifications of that, it's quite amazing.

00:00:55.700 Also, we talked to you a little bit about what happened in Buffalo, the truth of the eco socialist racist that did the shooting. 0.90

00:01:04.940 And who's really behind the article in the Rolling Stone, the editorial about, oh, my gosh, Republicans are just so incredibly racist.

00:01:17.360 Also, we have Dave McCormick on. He's running for Senate in the great state of Pennsylvania and so much more, including ESG.

00:01:26.840 Oh, and something that everyone has to pay attention to from the WHO.

00:01:34.040 It's all on today's podcast. Don't miss it.

00:01:45.420 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:49.360 All right. I want to start here and believe me, we're going to get back to school in a second and you'll see the transition.

00:01:57.920 A House Intelligence Subcommittee today is holding the first congressional hearing on UFOs in 50 years.

00:02:08.440 Now, I don't know if the world has been paying attention to what is happening with the Pentagon and UFOs, but is, I think, the biggest story possibly of any of our lifetimes may be the biggest story in all of human history.

00:02:28.260 But let's talk about misgendering.

00:02:34.080 What's happening right now is the Congress has decided to call a hearing on UFOs because there are things that are happening that for the very first time, the Navy and our military can actually track these UFOs.

00:02:55.240 In the past, you haven't been able to track them.

00:02:58.840 You've only had pilots that say, I swear to you, I saw this, but they move so quickly, at least the ones now, that they could never lock on to them.

00:03:08.460 We have locked on to some sort of a ship with, as it's described, no apparent propulsion system, no heat signature, nothing, and they are moving at high speed.

00:03:26.840 And we have tracked them, locked onto them for weeks at a time.

00:03:31.660 They move in ways that are beyond our understanding of physics, and we have seen them up close.

00:03:43.720 They seem to be, according to the Pentagon, I can't say targeting, observing our nuclear weapons.

00:03:56.100 They have been hovering over some of our Navy, naval bases.

00:04:03.860 They have engaged in dogfights with our pilots.

00:04:08.660 They have shown that they are way beyond our technology or understanding.

00:04:15.160 So, you're left with two things.

00:04:17.560 Now that we have verified, we're left with two things.

00:04:20.460 Are they otherworldly, or is that China that has developed technology so far ahead of us that there's no chance of defeating them? 0.98

00:04:36.300 From what I have discussed with members of the Pentagon that have been part of this search, they say that they just don't believe that it's China because the technology is so far ahead that it would affect the rest of your society.

00:04:56.300 There's no way you could develop just that and not let it bleed into other things.

00:05:03.720 It's too great of a leap.

00:05:06.300 So, we don't think that it is China.

00:05:09.760 There's also evidence that we have now collected that shows the metals that these things are made out of are otherworldly.

00:05:20.080 They're alloys that we have no idea how to make, and we don't recognize some of the metals in the alloy.

00:05:32.180 So, Congress is going to ask, are these weather balloons?

00:05:38.680 Is it something else?

00:05:41.380 Adam Schiff is the guy who's leading this.

00:05:44.360 So, I don't expect anything to come from this meeting in Congress, this hearing.

00:05:51.680 Everything that is worthwhile is going to be confidential, and they want these to be open hearings.

00:05:58.300 This, in my opinion, is really for those who are paying attention or for those who just want a salacious story about UFOs.

00:06:09.140 But we're not really going to get any information, I believe.

00:06:13.960 Now, I want you just to listen to this.

00:06:20.280 I don't believe any of those.

00:06:49.480 Let's assume, they say, it's another country, another nation, or another group that is operating something that we don't understand.

00:06:57.800 This is according to the Heritage Foundation Senior Fellow for Naval Warfare and Advanced Technology.

00:07:02.860 That's definitely a security threat that we can't necessarily defend against because you can't defend against something that you just don't understand.

00:07:11.940 So, we are looking at technology now that defies the laws of physics.

00:07:19.220 Now, let me bring it back to school.

00:07:24.680 The National Science Teaching Association has just held a seminar.

00:07:31.960 Remember, we are talking about possible alien life.

00:07:36.860 What are the ramifications of that?

00:07:39.260 We are also talking about, if it is alien life, what do they want?

00:07:46.300 Why are they here?

00:07:47.780 Why are they now presenting themselves and sending a message?

00:07:52.200 This is what Pentagon says.

00:07:53.900 Sending a message to us.

00:07:56.460 We are beyond your capability of stopping us.

00:08:00.720 So, don't try.

00:08:02.220 The message is very clear and correct.

00:08:08.260 So, if it is aliens, why are they here?

00:08:11.340 What do we do?

00:08:12.420 If it's not aliens, somebody has technology here on Earth that is way beyond our understanding.

00:08:20.800 We don't even understand the alloy.

00:08:22.960 So, as we are raising our children and looking for tomorrow's scientists, the National Science Teaching Association has just held a seminar called Queer Your Classroom.

00:08:38.920 It happened on April 2nd, instructing teachers on, quote, simple tricks and strategies to affirm and represent queer students who are marginalized in science.

00:08:54.640 This seminar, led by Bronx High School of Science, the chemistry teacher there, Jamie Kubrick, who goes by they and he pronouns, which do not work.

00:09:09.060 You can't be a he and a they. 1.00

00:09:11.440 It's not possible.

00:09:13.340 And I'd go as far as saying, you can't be a they. 1.00

00:09:17.160 But, I digress.

00:09:19.160 He instructed attendees on how to affirm and represent queer identities and make impactful changes to K-12 curriculum.

00:09:31.080 He instructed teachers on the GLSEN Gender Triangle Education Guide, which defines gender attribution, gender identity, and gender expression,

00:09:42.980 explaining that there's a common misconception that gender and sex are the same thing.

00:09:48.720 But they're not, according to his presentation slides.

00:09:51.700 This is put together by GLSEN, a national advocacy organization, which aims to, quote,

00:09:57.000 transform K-12 schools into a safe and affirming environment.

00:10:03.500 And, okay, parents for defending education say this is just more political activism.

00:10:13.680 I guess what?

00:10:16.360 What are you kidding me?

00:10:18.420 In the presentation, the the instructor provided simple strategies for queering the classroom,

00:10:26.280 which includes a suggestion that teachers replace any terms or phrases that reinforce the binary, like prom king or prom queen.

00:10:35.560 Do you see what's happening?

00:10:37.940 Do we have the Michelle Obama quote?

00:10:40.220 Can you pull that up real quick, Sarah?

00:10:43.180 They are changing everything.

00:10:46.900 Just like Michelle Obama said in 2007.

00:10:50.440 And Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices.

00:10:53.920 We are going to have to change our conversation.

00:10:56.900 We're going to have to change our traditions, our history.

00:10:59.780 We're going to have to move into a different place.

00:11:02.980 We have done all of those things.

00:11:05.080 And we're being told now we have to make sacrifices.

00:11:08.320 We have to make sacrifices.

00:11:10.480 I'm sorry.

00:11:11.080 If you want to fight this war in Ukraine, we're going to have to, well, cause starvation all around the world.

00:11:18.080 You're going to have to pay six dollars a gallon for gasoline because Barack knows we have to make sacrifices.

00:11:25.280 We have to change the way we talk to each other, our conversations.

00:11:30.720 Have we done that?

00:11:31.980 We have to change our traditions.

00:11:34.780 Have we done that?

00:11:35.640 Teachers are instructed to ask students for their gender pronouns rather than assuming gender identity or misgendering with incorrect pronouns.

00:11:48.180 And use terms like everyone and you all instead of saying you guys.

00:11:53.960 A sample student information survey included in the slides asked students for their gender pronouns.

00:11:59.540 If these pronouns can be used front in the class and which pronouns the teacher should use when contacting the family.

00:12:06.380 This is again undermining the family.

00:12:10.540 So not only are we taking science and making it all about gender studies and let me go on.

00:12:18.760 The presentation suggests queer ideology can be implemented into every subject, including history, math, English, Spanish and science.

00:12:30.680 The instructor said in my chemistry class, I've infused talking about gender and sexuality, even when it doesn't seem like it could even fit or that there would be time.

00:12:40.880 For instance, when we talk about the electromagnetic spectrum, I can connect the word spectrum to how gender and sexuality can be a spectrum.

00:12:50.600 So students can understand that there's two ends, but values are possible in between.

00:12:56.520 We are now facing a world that is actually on a path by leaders for something called transhumanism.

00:13:10.740 Do you know what transhumanism is?

00:13:14.480 It is the merging of man and machine.

00:13:18.200 And it will happen within the next 10 years.

00:13:25.020 We are facing a world of technological change like the world has never seen.

00:13:33.060 You will not recognize your world in 2030.

00:13:38.800 We are looking at a world that is going to change jobs.

00:13:43.980 You will change what you're doing now.

00:13:46.600 You won't be doing the same thing in 2030, 2035.

00:13:52.280 Everything is about to change.

00:13:54.060 And we're facing a threat either from China or from space.

00:14:01.740 And we don't know what it is.

00:14:05.360 And we're having our science teachers talk about the spectrum.

00:14:20.500 America, this is a recipe for disaster.

00:14:25.100 Pull your students out of school.

00:14:33.660 If you can't afford there.

00:14:36.420 Let me put it this way.

00:14:38.240 I understand.

00:14:39.940 I really do understand.

00:14:42.200 I didn't want to homeschool my kids.

00:14:45.120 I don't feel qualified for it.

00:14:47.580 My wife doesn't feel qualified for it. 1.00

00:14:50.240 But I'll tell you this. 0.99

00:14:52.300 Your kids will be better off, even if you're not qualified for it, than learning this crap. 1.00

00:15:00.100 This crap will sink your kids and your family. 1.00

00:15:04.360 The teachers' unions are currently turning your children against you. 1.00

00:15:15.120 There's no way for America to survive if they get our kids. 1.00

00:15:20.040 And believe me, those both, getting our kids and ensuring America doesn't survive, both of those are goals of the teachers' union.

00:15:36.480 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:15:39.380 U.S. Senate candidate Dave McCormick joins us now.

00:15:51.280 Hello, Dave.

00:15:51.800 How are you?

00:15:53.020 Hey, Glenn.

00:15:53.560 How are you?

00:15:54.000 Thanks for having me.

00:15:54.880 You bet.

00:15:55.360 You bet.

00:15:56.200 This is such an important race.

00:15:58.840 We cannot lose this seat.

00:16:02.560 And it is down to three of you.

00:16:05.780 Donald Trump has endorsed Dr. Oz.

00:16:08.800 Which I don't understand.

00:16:11.240 But Kathy Barnett was on with us last week. 0.99

00:16:14.800 I think she's good.

00:16:16.320 I have some questions, but I think she's good.

00:16:18.920 And I wanted to make sure we talk to you today, the day of the primary.

00:16:23.420 So let's just start with I know who you are, that you were a guy who went out and fought for our country.

00:16:32.240 You went to West Point.

00:16:33.340 You were a paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne with the Army.

00:16:37.720 I really appreciate all your service.

00:16:40.380 Where do you stand on ESG?

00:16:42.940 Well, listen, I think what's happened.

00:16:46.680 First thing, and thanks for having me.

00:16:48.340 You bet.

00:16:49.400 What's happened in our business community and in government with this shift towards wokeness,

00:16:57.440 it's the combination of really wokeness and weakness that has made me want to run and really believing that's taking our country in the wrong direction.

00:17:04.840 And ESG is at the top of the wokeness list where essentially the idea of sustainability and the broad ESG platform has permeated everything.

00:17:14.340 It's become the highest order.

00:17:15.980 It's become what's supposed to drive companies, what's supposed to drive our government.

00:17:19.140 And I think it's taken us in a really damaging direction.

00:17:21.780 And it's thoughtless.

00:17:23.620 It doesn't have a lot of rigor behind it.

00:17:26.000 And I think it's bringing CEOs into the world of policy and politics, which is exactly where they don't belong.

00:17:32.840 And so I think it's a dangerous trend, but it's part of a broader trend where you see wokeness really chipping away at our institutions, 0.71

00:17:39.540 our military, our schools, our business community.

00:17:42.240 And that's one of the reasons I'm running, to push back on the combination of those two things.

00:17:47.500 So tell me about inflation.

00:17:49.380 What is happening and what do we do to stop it?

00:17:55.180 Yeah, I'm driving around Pennsylvania in my pickup truck.

00:17:58.140 I have a family farm here.

00:17:59.100 I grew up here in Pennsylvania, a small town called Bloomsburg.

00:18:02.180 One company town with the McGee Carpet Mill, which sadly has mostly gone away at this point.

00:18:08.840 And this is the issue that comes up over and over again is inflation.

00:18:11.460 And it's the direct result of Joe Biden's terrible policies.

00:18:15.500 Joe Biden's blaming on everybody but himself.

00:18:17.460 That's the first thing I learned at West Point is leaders take accountability and he's taken none.

00:18:22.260 And there's three things that he's done that have really driven it.

00:18:25.360 The first is the enormous spending.

00:18:28.180 What's happened in the last 18 months goes beyond anything in history in terms of the spike in spending.

00:18:33.840 It's his terrible energy policy, which overnight made us energy dependent.

00:18:38.100 And, of course, fuel costs is a primary component of inflation.

00:18:41.180 And that's killing Pennsylvania's working families, elders on fixed income. 0.99

00:18:46.180 This inflation and gas prices is just very damaging.

00:18:49.540 And then he's had a very socialist agenda and high regulation, which has hurt our economy and really taken us back from the pro-growth policies of President Trump.

00:18:59.760 So what do you do?

00:19:00.880 Well, you show up on day one.

00:19:02.180 I'm a guy who's been a CEO of two big companies.

00:19:04.840 I ran a company that created 600 jobs in Pennsylvania.

00:19:08.000 You have to reverse those things.

00:19:09.720 You have to cut back on the spending quickly.

00:19:12.560 This is extreme and it's flowing into our economy and driving prices up.

00:19:16.760 You have to reverse the energy policies, make us energy dominant, deregulate our energy sector, create pipeline capacity.

00:19:23.660 And you have to have pro-growth economic policies.

00:19:25.880 Make the tax cuts permanent and reduce regulations.

00:19:29.500 And that's that's the magic formula.

00:19:31.480 This isn't this isn't a mystery.

00:19:34.020 It's that that's the magic formula for unlocking our economy.

00:19:36.820 Joe Biden has done the opposite thing and not taken responsibility for it.

00:19:41.460 Parents all over the country are facing crazy things in their school.

00:19:46.980 Would you would you defund and close down the Department of Education?

00:19:54.180 Yes, I would.

00:19:56.520 Well, I certainly would.

00:19:58.380 And I defund anything that supported the teaching of critical race theory in our schools or a distorted sense of American history.

00:20:06.280 It's outrageous that the exceptional America that we all love and have benefited from, the greatest country in the history of the world, that history is not being taught.

00:20:17.980 What's being taught is a history of apology, all the things that are wrong about America as opposed to all the things that are right about America.

00:20:25.240 And you can't even raise your hand to disagree or argue about it because of cancel culture.

00:20:29.220 So I think what we learned in covid was that parents got a little closer look at what's going on in their schools and they and they don't like what they see.

00:20:36.940 They don't like what they see in terms of the schools and school boards and local governments here, you know, petty, petty tyrants telling them what they should do with testing and mask and vaccines.

00:20:48.640 They don't like the curriculum that's being taught and they haven't even historically had transparency on curriculum.

00:20:54.480 It's only because you're sitting next to your kid while they're working from home that you see really what's being taught and they don't like the sexualization that's being taught in the schools and when it's being taught by whom.

00:21:05.380 And so I think we've got a crisis in our schools.

00:21:08.340 Certainly, the Department of Education is is is part of the problem.

00:21:11.100 But the real problem is we don't have school choice.

00:21:14.180 And so that's that's the way to create the right accountability is to is to break the back of our current model.

00:21:22.300 And the only way to do that is give parents and students choice, put the money with the kids.

00:21:25.480 And I think you'll see a completely different system.

00:21:27.740 It'll be disruptive as hell, but it's very necessary.

00:21:30.460 The border.

00:21:32.660 Yeah, I went to see it.

00:21:34.480 You know, I've been following this carefully, obviously watching on TV.

00:21:38.080 I went to Yuma about six, seven weeks ago.

00:21:42.980 Brandon Judd, the president of the Border Patrol Union, has endorsed me.

00:21:47.660 Whatever you think you've seen until you've been there, it's worse.

00:21:51.440 The border is wide open.

00:21:53.200 It's killing Pennsylvanians. 0.64

00:21:54.680 We have a fentanyl crisis in Pennsylvania.

00:21:56.540 Five thousand deaths last year.

00:22:00.020 The crime, the midnight swipes.

00:22:01.940 It's on the it's a top three issue for Pennsylvanians.

00:22:04.840 And it's an easy fix.

00:22:06.780 You just have to go back to the policies President Trump had.

00:22:10.100 Finish the wall.

00:22:11.100 You can see the wall where I visited.

00:22:12.680 There's a wall and then there's big stacks of steel and there's contractor trailers.

00:22:16.580 By the way, the contractors got paid because even though the wall wasn't finished, the construction and you got to reverse the catch and release.

00:22:24.760 And then we got to crack down on this fentanyl problem.

00:22:30.080 And the border is the first step.

00:22:32.720 Law and order in our cities is the second step.

00:22:35.920 We got a terrible district attorney in Philadelphia and we're not we're not being tough enough on drug crimes. 0.99

00:22:42.780 We got to kill the cartels at the border. 0.98

00:22:45.300 And and you know where that fentanyl is produced? 1.00

00:22:47.740 China.

00:22:48.400 So we got to go hard at China on a whole range of things.

00:22:51.940 But we got to close down the fentanyl factories, which come to Mexico, go across the border 48 hours to get to the northeast.

00:22:58.560 It is a big deal in Pennsylvania.

00:23:00.480 This is this is probably the thing on the campaign trail that surprised me the most was how big a problem we have in fentanyl.

00:23:06.940 I had read about it, but it's terrible.

00:23:09.720 It 18 of what is it, 18 to 49 or 18 to 39 year olds.

00:23:15.220 It's the number one killer in America.

00:23:18.160 One hundred and I think nine thousand, which is about 50,000 more than died in covid.

00:23:26.400 I mean, it is a massive, massive problem that nobody's talking about.

00:23:31.640 You are.

00:23:32.440 Talk to me about, you know, you just mentioned China.

00:23:35.600 Yeah. Talk to me about what we're doing in Ukraine.

00:23:38.420 Would you have voted to the for the last 40 billion dollars to bring our aid up to Ukraine to 58 billion?

00:23:46.820 Absolutely not.

00:23:47.860 I'm offended by it, but I'm offended for two reasons.

00:23:51.740 I'm offended by the way this came about.

00:23:54.500 Thirty three billion dollar proposal from Biden makes its way to the to the Congress.

00:24:00.080 Somehow along the way, seven billion more gets gets thrown on top of it.

00:24:03.400 No hearings, no clear accountability, not sure sure where the money is spent.

00:24:09.440 So that's offensive. And then on top of it, 40 billion dollars going out the door at a time when America is in crisis.

00:24:16.940 We're in a crisis. You know, a fraction of that could finish that border wall I was just talking about.

00:24:21.400 So I think the whole notion of doing that just shows how disconnected Washington is right now from the people I'm seeing in Pennsylvania every day.

00:24:31.340 And they're I mean, they're they're angry, Glenn.

00:24:33.840 You know, this they're angry about a lot of things, but it's stuff like this that makes them scratch their head and say, what the hell is going on down there?

00:24:40.820 And and listen, as a business guy, as someone who's never been in politics, I can go down there and be a disruptor.

00:24:48.200 I will look at things through the through the lens of what makes sense, what's common sense and what what do my conservative values that I've lived my whole life tell me we should do right now?

00:24:58.620 And my obligations will be only to the people of Pennsylvania, and I won't be afraid to break a little glass. 1.00

00:25:04.480 The the U.S. military is just it's being run by idiots and morons and politicians, honestly, leftists. 1.00

00:25:17.500 Can we can we clear enough wood out of the top of the Pentagon to restore the credibility back? 1.00

00:25:25.020 Well, you need listen, you need you need you need warfighters. 0.95

00:25:28.620 You need warfighters. There's there's two problems that I see with our with our current military.

00:25:34.020 The first problem is the one you refer to, where we've got we've got a whole social.

00:25:39.800 Yeah. And that's high.

00:25:42.440 The wokeness that I mentioned earlier, and that takes focus off of warfighting.

00:25:48.100 We have we've got a bunch of leaders, both uniforms and civilian that are much more worried about ESG and things like that.

00:25:55.020 And, you know, how do we go head to head with China? 0.87

00:25:56.820 And so that's problem one. Problem two is I fear we're making the mistake that our military has made in the past, which is we're fighting the last war, not the not the future war.

00:26:06.640 And when I look at what it's going to take to go head to head with China, I don't think we're investing in the right things. 0.99

00:26:13.200 I don't think we've got the right kind of innovative leadership. I think there's complacency.

00:26:17.840 And I think I think we're not on a path to be the dominant force in the world that we need to be.

00:26:24.100 And, you know, I'm subscribed to Ronald Reagan's line of peace through strength.

00:26:27.640 And America needs to have the premier military in the world.

00:26:31.940 And it needs to be clear that if you cross the line with America, the results will be devastating. 0.58

00:26:37.000 And I fear that our military is taking us on a path where where that's not the case.

00:26:41.680 And then, of course, when you have incompetent leadership at the top like Joe Biden and the debacle in Afghanistan, that that that invites tyrants around the world to test us because they think they think they found a soft spot.

00:26:53.020 So one more question, then I'll let you go, Dave. I know it's a busy day for you, but we're talking to Dave McCormick.

00:26:58.220 He is running for U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania. This is probably the number one race.

00:27:04.760 You know, some people don't understand why Kathy is surging in the polls here recently.

00:27:12.940 And I think it is because if I may translate, I don't think Republicans truly understand how done Republican voters are with the Republican Party, how done they are with saying one thing and then getting in and and thinking you're fighting the same fight that we fought in 1985.

00:27:35.560 We are up against the wall. The Constitution is barely hanging on.

00:27:43.380 We are in the fight of our life. Why should Pennsylvanians trust that you're going to go in and you're not going to be part of the McConnell, you know, Romney clan?

00:27:54.880 Yeah. Well, listen, I think Pennsylvanians are zeroing in right now on on a couple of things.

00:28:00.540 They feel like the country's slipping away. They know that this race is the most important race in their lifetime.

00:28:06.640 They're trying to figure out who the candidate is that best shares their conservative values and agrees with what you said is going to fight for it.

00:28:13.800 They're asking themselves who can win this general election because the stakes are so incredibly high and they're and they're asking themselves who has the experience to show up on day one and deal with the things you just asked me about, the border inflation, because we don't have time for on the job training.

00:28:29.640 We know what that looks like. That's Kamala Harris. That's on the job training. Right. It's a disaster. 1.00

00:28:34.460 And so I believe I'm that candidate. And that's the momentum that I'm feeling on the ground, because as people zero in on this, they don't want to take any risk.

00:28:43.080 And with regard to Kathy, I know Kathy got to know her on the campaign trail. I admire her personal story, but she's been tested.

00:28:49.940 She was tested 18 months ago and lost a congressional seat by by 20 points and now is under the spotlight.

00:28:57.480 And listen, I've been under the spotlight for a long time. And there's there's questions that all of us need to ask and she or answer rather.

00:29:04.920 And she certainly needs to answer all of those, including, you know, the support she has from the Club for Growth, which is a perfect example of a big part of the establishment.

00:29:13.900 So that's that's the state of the race. And I appreciate the opportunity to be with you, Glenn. 0.99

00:29:20.660 The thing I would like to close with is for your Pennsylvania listeners, I'm asking for their vote.

00:29:27.060 I've I've you know, somebody asked me the other day if I'm America first.

00:29:30.520 I've been America first since at the age of 18 when I went to West Point and then and then went to the 82nd Airborne Division.

00:29:37.000 And I'm a conservative that has succeeded in business. I've lived the American dream.

00:29:42.740 And I want to have a chance to make sure that American dreams available for our kids.

00:29:45.760 And it's not going to be unless we take significant change, corrective action right now.

00:29:52.220 And and I can be a big part of that change in the Senate on behalf of the great people of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

00:29:57.760 So thank you, sir, for having me. I appreciate the opportunity.

00:30:00.640 Dave is great. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. That's Dave McCormick.

00:30:04.020 You can follow him or find out more information if you are thinking of voting in Pennsylvania.

00:30:10.100 Dave McCormick, P.A. dot com. Dave McCormick, P.A. dot com.

00:30:20.380 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:30:22.520 Andy Puzder, he is the executive chairman of Second Vote Advisors and visiting fellow of the Heritage Foundation.

00:30:41.000 I just have to go through his resume here just for a second.

00:30:46.740 Hardee's and Carl's Jr.

00:30:48.200 He's the one who really made them into what they are today.

00:30:52.240 He was the guy who started Carl's Carl's Karchner's personal attorney in 86.

00:30:59.260 He became the CEO in 2000, led the company out of serious financial difficulties under his leadership.

00:31:04.900 They expanded to almost 4000 restaurants globally.

00:31:08.580 Currently, currently the executive chairman of the board of Second Vote Advisors.

00:31:12.700 It's an investment firm formed in response to share, sorry, stakeholder capitalism and the ESG movement.

00:31:21.400 He is a frequent lecturer on economics and politics for various groups, as well as colleges and universities.

00:31:27.820 Senior fellow at Pepperdine University School of Public Policy, a visiting fellow business and economic freedom at the Heritage Foundation.

00:31:36.100 Senior fellow at the America First Policy Institute, a member of the Reagan Institute's National Leadership Council, a director of the Job Creators Network, also on the Washington University Law School Board of Advisors, the State Financial Officers Foundation National Advisory Committee and the advisory board at Prager University.

00:31:57.300 Obviously, he has nothing to do with his day.

00:32:02.200 How are you?

00:32:03.240 I'm great.

00:32:04.000 My wife keeps asking when this retirement thing starts.

00:32:06.860 I told her, this is it.

00:32:08.360 You know, I know, I know, I know.

00:32:10.740 There's no, you know, the one word that it does is there's no word for it in the Hebrew language, and that is retirement.

00:32:17.400 I don't think God intended us to retire.

00:32:19.660 Can't do it.

00:32:20.800 So let's talk about ESG.

00:32:24.240 ESG, and I want to get to second vote because that's a real solution.

00:32:28.860 But you just described ESG off air as the biggest threat to America in your lifetime.

00:32:37.640 Yeah, it's a real challenge to the core values of the Constitution.

00:32:40.860 It's a threat to our democracy because it takes away the right to resolve things at the voting booth.

00:32:47.360 These large investment firms vote stock to compel companies to do things that they might not otherwise do, accomplish these progressive agenda items, and they do it as a shortcut around the ballot box because they can't get these things passed popularly.

00:33:01.560 It's a threat to our economic freedom because they pressure CEOs rather than to pursue profit, which is the heart and soul of the free market capitalist system that's given us this incredible prosperity.

00:33:12.580 They compel them to do things that are consistent with this progressive agenda, and it's a threat to our individual liberty because they use our money.

00:33:20.720 They're using the money of red state pension funds.

00:33:23.140 If you've got an investment, if you have any assets at all invested, you probably have investments with BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard.

00:33:29.840 Guarantee it.

00:33:30.120 They will vote all of the shares they own with your money against your values and against your financial interests if they're pursuing these progressive agenda.

00:33:39.860 So it's a large – as you said earlier, it's the most severe threat to our nation and our freedom and our liberty in my lifetime, and I'll be 72 years old.

00:33:49.560 That's about 30 percent of the country's history.

00:33:51.640 That's amazing.

00:33:52.500 So when I first stumbled onto this two years, two-plus years ago, I thought, this is a conspiracy.

00:34:00.760 There's no way this is true.

00:34:03.080 And the more I looked into it and found the original sources, I couldn't believe how well done it was and how far done it was.

00:34:14.240 Are we – I mean, are we cooked here?

00:34:16.340 Well, we're not cooked because we can still react, and as you know from the conference you're having here as we speak, state governments are beginning to react to this because they're finding that their state funds are being invested to pursue things they were elected to oppose.

00:34:33.200 Correct.

00:34:33.460 So we can fight back.

00:34:34.980 But look, it's – you know, as I said, it's insidious.

00:34:38.680 It's – what they did – you have to respect what the left did on this.

00:34:42.380 All of a sudden it appeared, and it looked – by the time I discovered it about 18 months, two years ago, and by the time I found out about it, it looked like we had lost already.

00:34:50.560 We're fighting back now, so we haven't.

00:34:52.440 But, I mean, they affect your credit.

00:34:53.820 You know, they're now talking about individual ESG scores, which means that you individually will be – may not get the credit score – you may not get the interest rate you want, or you may not get a bank loan because of the charities you contribute to.

00:35:06.760 Maybe you contributed to your church's charity.

00:35:08.800 That could be held against you.

00:35:10.400 Or you were in the paper or online standing up against the local school board.

00:35:14.940 Or you supported a Republican candidate or a conservative candidate.

00:35:18.180 All of these things will go into the ESG scoring, and you will be compelled to hide your religious beliefs.

00:35:22.840 You'll be compelled to hide your political beliefs if you want a loan.

00:35:25.920 If your kids want to buy a car, if they want to get insurance, they're going to have to hide who they are or what they do if we let this continue.

00:35:32.260 And they say that – you know, people will say, well, that's unconstitutional, and these are private corporations.

00:35:38.540 Why not let them do that?

00:35:40.560 And it's unconstitutional.

00:35:42.160 They couldn't do it in the first place.

00:35:45.020 You're right.

00:35:45.680 It's not constitutional.

00:35:46.760 If there's any government support for this, that would tie them into the Constitution.

00:35:50.220 And, in fact, if you look at a number of people that are guiding the economic policies of the Biden administration came from BlackRock.

00:35:59.180 And so there are ties here.

00:36:00.940 The SEC, the Department of Labor, they're all working to advance this ESG agenda.

00:36:06.040 It's almost dystopian.

00:36:07.360 It's 1984, and you don't even know it.

00:36:10.240 And now they're even using phrases that come out of 1984, like this – what's the group that's now going to judge whether or not we can see it?

00:36:17.960 The disinformation –

00:36:19.800 Governance board.

00:36:21.340 Yeah.

00:36:21.760 I mean, it's right out of George Orwell.

00:36:23.500 I know.

00:36:24.040 These are scary times.

00:36:25.700 This is very scary stuff.

00:36:26.780 But I don't think people believe – Americans, we're naive, because it's never happened here.

00:36:31.940 And so they don't think that – you know, you hear, oh, global governance.

00:36:37.040 And they think, oh, well, that's just a conspiracy theory.

00:36:39.620 And there's no way these banks – you know, because you immediately go to, it's a star chamber, and the Rothschilds are involved.

00:36:47.000 And you're like, no, this – forget all of that stuff.

00:36:50.420 But people don't believe it could happen here.

00:36:53.620 Yeah, I was suspicious. 0.88

00:36:54.980 When they came out with stakeholder capitalism, I thought that was a ridiculous thing.

00:36:58.220 I thought no business would – no business would divert its intent from making a profit.

00:37:01.840 That's what you do, right?

00:37:02.820 Right.

00:37:02.920 And so you're – but the more I looked into it, the more I found, my God, they are doing – and it's not the CEOs of these companies who actually would, I think, many of them, like to make a profit and not be politically involved.

00:37:13.680 Yeah.

00:37:13.840 It's these fund managers that control – I think BlackRock alone controls $10 trillion in investments.

00:37:20.660 If you look at BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard, those are the three largest fund managers.

00:37:25.140 They manage our money.

00:37:26.320 They manage my money and your money.

00:37:27.840 Combined, they are the largest shareholder in 80% of the companies in the S&P 500.

00:37:34.000 Jeez.

00:37:34.440 That's 80% of the largest publicly traded companies in America.

00:37:38.160 If you add them together, they're the largest shareholder, and they all – they're all pursuing this ESG agenda.

00:37:44.980 You know, radical environmental policy, critical race theory, human resource programs, this so-called diversity hiring where you put people on your boards of directors,

00:37:53.600 not based on their qualifications or their character, but based on their race or their sex, which, quite honestly, I've been fighting against my whole career.

00:38:00.260 All of a sudden, now it's a fashionable thing to do.

00:38:02.580 This is bad.

00:38:03.600 This is a very, very serious threat.

00:38:05.520 People need to take it seriously.

00:38:07.700 Okay.

00:38:08.100 So the first thing we can do is take our money out of these organizations.

00:38:14.560 But I know my own advisor said, Glenn, you've got to stay in.

00:38:20.880 They're going to – I mean, they are the powerhouses, and they are going to make all kinds of money.

00:38:28.740 Make money with them and then use your money to fight against them.

00:38:32.440 That was the quote.

00:38:33.920 Yeah, I think we need to change that.

00:38:35.620 Now, I think that they've become so powerful.

00:38:38.040 I said this is so insidious.

00:38:39.460 It's the kind of threat that we've always been warned about.

00:38:42.600 It's the kind of threat that comes from within.

00:38:45.100 And it's one of the reasons that now you – my friend Vivek Ramasamy has talked about coming out with a group that will have investments where you can put money and fight this world capitalism thing.

00:38:55.260 My friends Dave and Diane Black already started – and who you know well – have already started a group called Second Vote Advisors.

00:39:02.960 I'm now the executive chairman of that group.

00:39:05.080 And we offer – you can buy our products today.

00:39:07.360 Vivek's products are probably coming out in the fall.

00:39:09.360 But today, we've got a pro-life product where if you invest, it's L-Y-F-E, and you can get it on Ameritrade or have your broker get it for you.

00:39:18.180 But if you –

00:39:18.600 And that is a – and that's a fund.

00:39:20.940 That's an exchange-traded fund, an ETF.

00:39:23.580 Yep.

00:39:23.780 If you invest in it, you will not be investing in any companies that support abortion, not only ones that – not only will you not be supporting companies that perform, but companies that, you know, make charitable contributions to Planned Parenthood or companies that are now talking about sending their employees to other states to get abortions.

00:39:40.560 They will not be in that fund, and it's performed very well, beat the S&P 500 and the Russell 1000 consistently.

00:39:47.800 And we have a –

00:39:48.280 It's amazing when companies, you know, decide to just do what they do best, how good those companies can be.

00:39:56.440 Well, we actually have a fund coming out called the Shareholders' First Fund, which will only invest in funds that are politically neutral, not left, not right.

00:40:04.840 It's an ETF that should be out in the next month or two.

00:40:07.100 We're in SEC approval right now.

00:40:09.200 We've got a prospectus on file.

00:40:11.300 And the theory behind this fund is that companies that focus on making a profit will be more profitable than companies that don't.

00:40:22.220 Wow.

00:40:23.200 Say that to me again, Professor.

00:40:25.180 That's pretty deep.

00:40:26.440 People always expect me to say something else, but that's really it.

00:40:29.240 Yeah.

00:40:29.480 You know, having run a large public company, I can tell you that it's hard enough to make a profit when you focus on it.

00:40:34.800 Correct.

00:40:35.020 Let alone when your focus is on changing the world, consistent with some collectivist political agenda.

00:40:40.180 That changes all the time.

00:40:42.140 And we do have one other – we have one other ETF you can buy now.

00:40:45.660 It's called a Society Defended.

00:40:47.820 And the companies that we exclude from this ETF are ones that support defunding the police, oppose the Second Amendment, oppose border security.

00:40:56.400 It's EGIS.

00:40:57.900 It's also on Ameritrade or through your broker.

00:41:00.600 And it's actually performed better than the Life Fund.

00:41:02.500 They both perform better than the S&P or the Russell 1000.

00:41:05.500 Is that divine providence or what do you think that is?

00:41:08.040 Well, number one, it's picking stocks that I think have CEOs or management whose head's in the right place.

00:41:16.260 You really are kind of focused on what your company's going to be doing profit-wise, not politically.

00:41:22.040 And secondly, we apply financial methodologies.

00:41:25.140 Once we pick those stocks, we hone it down to what the stocks we think will be the best.

00:41:29.760 Right.

00:41:29.820 And so you've got the strong financial methodology.

00:41:32.880 In fact, on our ETFs, the stock pickers we use are Art Laffer Jr. and Nancy Tengler of Laffer Tangler Inc.

00:41:39.780 And they're both very, very qualified and good people.

00:41:42.160 Yeah, very good.

00:41:42.200 So this is our way.

00:41:43.500 We're out there with Products Now fighting this.

00:41:45.580 Thank God you're fighting it with the organization you have here that's opposed to ESG.

00:41:52.920 There are other – you know, each state has to fight.

00:41:55.960 Alec came out – I drafted a law about three, four months ago that makes it a breach of fiduciary duty for fiduciaries,

00:42:04.580 these pension fund fiduciaries, to invest in ESG as opposed to profit-motivated.

00:42:08.680 It really – I really just took what was in ERISA, which is a federal law that doesn't govern state plants,

00:42:14.140 and a regulation that Gene Scalia got passed when he was Secretary of Labor and combined them into a state law and took the voting rights away.

00:42:21.620 I said the state has to take all the voting rights away from all of these fund managers and they'll vote the darn shares themselves 0.75

00:42:27.080 and not let them pressure these CEOs. 0.81

00:42:31.020 Now, Alec adopted that legislation.

00:42:33.160 I think it's called the State Fiduciary Duty Act.

00:42:35.320 That's the American Legislative Council that does a lot of conservative legislation.

00:42:40.420 So it's been adopted, and we've been talking about it here in your meeting.

00:42:43.740 Good, good.

00:42:44.060 And I think we're going to get some action on it next year.

00:42:45.920 So we are fighting back, but nobody should underestimate – this is a huge – you thought communism was a threat?

00:42:53.360 You thought Bernie Sanders and AOC and their ridiculous version of socialism was a threat? 0.71

00:42:58.520 Yeah. 0.93

00:42:58.780 You know, these were – that was penny any stuff.

00:43:01.880 Yeah, we are currently paying for it.

00:43:05.320 At the pump.

00:43:06.780 I think there's a good argument that ESG investing, by driving up the price of gasoline, the price of oil,

00:43:13.740 empowered Vladimir Putin to invade the Ukraine.

00:43:17.940 He couldn't have done it if he didn't have the money.

00:43:19.900 You'll recall Ronald Reagan defeated the Soviet Union by driving down the price of oil.

00:43:23.680 Correct.

00:43:24.260 Well, we drove it up with our ESG investing, and now we've got people in the Ukraine paying the price for that.

00:43:29.940 Andy Puzder is with us.

00:43:31.420 He is the executive chairman of Second Vote Advisors.

00:43:36.180 Where can we find the information?

00:43:39.540 There's a website called Second Vote Advisors.

00:43:42.060 You have to put advisors in, though, or you'll end up other places.

00:43:45.020 But Second Vote – the number two, ND Vote Advisors, with an ERS at the end.

00:43:50.960 So you can go to that website.

00:43:52.580 Okay.

00:43:53.240 I want to talk to you about something else that I haven't really heard people talk about,

00:43:57.860 and maybe they've been talking about it in the meetings that you're having across the brickyard here.

00:44:01.480 And that is, it's not just using our money at the state level, using our money to work against us.

00:44:10.480 It is also giving the radical left the ability to shut states down.

00:44:20.360 What we did to Vladimir Putin, that was ESG in action.

00:44:24.920 And the biggest corporations in the world, McDonald's, they didn't want to do this.

00:44:31.760 And then they said, we might have some reputational risk at stake, so we're going to go along with it.

00:44:37.420 That was ESG.

00:44:38.800 And if these states decide that they're going to go after CRT, or they're not going to have, you know, bathrooms for all genders, this can be turned on them.

00:44:51.400 And I mean, shut them down like states have never seen before.

00:44:56.040 It's true.

00:44:56.440 In fact, this happened in Georgia, as you recall.

00:44:58.540 They went to the transgender bathroom, and people were boycotting the state, and they backed off.

00:45:04.320 We do have some governors that won't back off, Governor DeSantis in Florida being the prime example.

00:45:09.400 You go after him, he's going to go after you.

00:45:11.280 It's very much like a Donald Trump type thing.

00:45:14.060 You know, you can oppose him, you can argue with him, you go after him, he's going to come back at you.

00:45:20.180 You were going to be, what did he name you to?

00:45:26.860 He nominated me for Secretary of Labor.

00:45:29.420 Yeah, okay.

00:45:29.820 But, you know, the attack from the left was vicious, to say the least.

00:45:35.180 I bet.

00:45:35.700 It was a tough period to go through, because I'd been advised not to go.

00:45:39.240 I was told I couldn't go on TV to defend myself.

00:45:42.160 The people that were running this said, no, don't worry about it.

00:45:45.440 You're going to get confirmed.

00:45:46.580 Well, you know, I mean, I was a trial lawyer.

00:45:48.660 I'd been on TV a lot.

00:45:50.640 It really wasn't an issue for me.

00:45:52.480 But I didn't want to defend myself, and the attacks finally weakened to some Republican votes.

00:45:57.480 That's too bad.

00:45:58.200 But a lot of this was because of what I had done with the pro-life movement, quite honestly.

00:46:01.900 I was attacked.

00:46:02.760 Sure.

00:46:03.560 They, you know, they really don't want you if you've done something meaningful for the pro-lifers.

00:46:08.240 Exactly right.

00:46:08.900 Exactly right.

00:46:09.700 Do you think, I've talked to Donald Trump about ESG, and I'm not sure it completely clicks with him.

00:46:15.000 Have you talked to him about it?

00:46:16.180 Does he understand what it is?

00:46:17.360 I haven't talked to him for a couple of months, and we did not talk about ESG when I spoke with him.

00:46:22.660 But look, give me five minutes with him, and, you know, I'll get five minutes at some point, and he'll understand it.

00:46:28.400 This is not, he'll get this quickly.

00:46:30.560 What people think, they think, well, it's like stakeholder capitalism, and that's really not a real thing.

00:46:36.200 Exactly right.

00:46:36.920 That's the biggest thing we fight, is people think, they either dismiss it as a conspiracy theory, or they dismiss it as it's not really that powerful.

00:46:45.680 It's not going to happen.

00:46:46.720 Yeah, people need to understand that this isn't the CEOs of these companies making decisions to do these leftist, collectivist, agenda item type things.

00:46:58.320 This is the people that control their companies.

00:47:00.560 This is the people that own the stock of their companies.

00:47:02.960 Yep.

00:47:03.140 Look what happened with Exxon.

00:47:04.500 You had a little bitty hedge fund decided it wanted it called Engine No. 1, wanted to put a couple of environmentalists on the board of Exxon.

00:47:11.240 Well, guess what?

00:47:12.500 These large investment funds, BlackRock, Vanguard, they owned about 21% of Exxon, voted all their shares in favor of putting the environmentalists on Exxon's board.

00:47:20.860 At a time when oil is going through the ceiling, right?

00:47:23.560 The price is going up and up and up.

00:47:25.860 And we're going to put environmentalists on Exxon's board. 0.74

00:47:28.040 And it succeeded.

00:47:29.140 Now, the real problem is-

00:47:30.440 Hang on, we have to hit a break here.

00:47:32.180 Andy Puzder, he is with Second2NDVoteAdvisors.com.

The Glenn Beck Program - May 17, 2022

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