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Join us for our special on Big Tech on tonight s episode of The Glenn Beck Program on the Blaze on Demand, featuring Glenn Beck. Glenn talks about how big tech can influence and steal the election, and how they are destroying our culture.
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hello america and welcome to the program wow what a great show today what'd you say stew
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great show you're not even listening no you're supposed to be doing this you're on your own
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today how great show we're going to talk to you about what is headed towards the next election
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talk a little bit about some of the things that are going in uh you know our schools
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and our churches not disturbing at all no not at all not at all and we have a guy who actually
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was one of the ethicists that worked at google until they scared him uh his eyes almost melted
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he got out big netflix special on on google and youtube and facebook next week um and tonight
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is our special on big tech the president for the first time retweeted something that i did or said
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uh and uh it was on the special tonight he knows what a big deal this is and how big tech
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can influence and steal the election you don't want to miss it on the blaze on demand after 9 p.m
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tonight you'll be able to find it live 9 p.m either on blaze tv or on youtube while it lasts there but
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make sure you check it out if you want to join us at blaze tv just go to blaze tv.com blaze tv.com
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slash glenn and use the promo code big tech and you'll save 20 bucks
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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i don't know if you saw this but a new uh a new council got together uh called together in
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washington dc to do a study on which monuments should be removed de-emphasized destroyed
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or just reframed um and the the top two uh i like are uh are you know the washington monument
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destroyed or removed or or relocated relocated all right uh and uh the jefferson memorial
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and you have a problem with that yeah something along the lines of over my dead body
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yeah yeah i mean that is something honestly i don't like the way that the country has become
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where washington dc has just become this corporate state you know what i mean i lived in washington dc in
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the 80s when it you know when it was just still recovering from fdr but it wasn't like it is now
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now it's just all the big businesses everybody has their headquarters there because they need to
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do business in washington which is sickening but i will tell you if you take down if you try to take
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down the washington memorial you take down and this is saying something i hate andrew jackson i hate him
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i think he is the guy if you go back in history i think he's the guy that actually ended the republic
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as our founders understood it he's the first one to put the nails in the coffin and turn us away from
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who we were at the founding would you agree with that i hate that guy hate him but you try to take
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his statue down in washington dc i'm thinking about getting on a plane and going and standing around it
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probably would do it you start to mess with benjamin franklin the two statues of benjamin
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franklin they want to take down benjamin franklin he was a racist he was no he was a racist
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no he was abolitionist no an outspoken abolitionist against his own business interests yeah again he was
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humiliated at the end of his life by the southern democrats because they were saying oh look and now
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he's for abolition i mean he's just he's gone crazy it's sad to see him decline so fast they made
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him into a guy who was a bumbling idiot when he wasn't which party was that again the democrats okay
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yeah the democrats yeah oh the defenders of truth and justice yes yes the bringers of light oh yeah
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the bringers of light uh i don't know about you but that that is amazing that's a fight that's a fight
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you touch the washington memorial that's a fight do you see that antifa went in and took down and i
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know this isn't the same thing but it shows how deeply they're going into culture they um uh defaced
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uh graceland and uh spray painted uh antifa and blm messages on graceland if you think any of our
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culture is going to survive this you're mistaken they will burn down everything they will erase
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everything and now you've got too far man you're talking about the king of nanner sandwiches
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well the king of nanner sandwiches he's going away he's going away i mean they it's amazing what they
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what they're trying to there because all of it has to go right it's not it's not just the confederate
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soldier statues it's america it's america itself and that's why the confederate soldiers are not even
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as important as the founders yeah they don't care about the confederate soldiers half as much as they
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do about the founders and they don't care that the one of the leaders of the abolitionist movement as
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our founders was ben franklin they're not holding him up as a hero because they have to erase all of
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it all of it your culture is being not not kind of going away slowly america as we know it will be
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gone in four years gone in four years which is their goal and if you don't believe it listen to the
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the protesters the rioters in oakland the other night oh yeah death to a chanting death to america
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who needs iran when you've got these people trying to destroy our country from within and by the way
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did you see that uh wheeler finally he's getting he's getting they love him they love him the mayor of
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uh portland oregon love love love love love love him uh they have they have disrupted his i guess he
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lives in a condo they've disrupted his condo he's now moving out of it on fire yeah trying to set it
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on fire um it is it's really really really bad he's still backing them he's still backing them he's
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saying they can't you know protest around his house it's kind of like nancy pelosi you can't get
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your hair done but i can yeah and mayor lightfoot in chicago doing the same thing i will not apologize
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for protecting my house and my wife and children well okay but what about everybody else's house and
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wives and husbands and children she doesn't give a rat's anus about any of them she just protects
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her own there's reports that up to 147 cops are guarding her home every night i mean in a time
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where you've got kind of a crunch for police the hypocrisy is can you imagine being a cop crazy
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can you imagine being a cop and guarding that you'd be like i mean this is why our cops are known as
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heroes yeah because they guard people they vehemently disagree with yeah you think in this one too they're
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not allowing the police to actually do the job they want to do right so they they're pulling them out
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of the danger areas and then you know assigning them to the mayor's house in all of these cities
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it's incredible it's incredible that people don't get more pissed off about it and it's incredible that
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the media is just going along with it yeah this is okay that's understandable she needs protection
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she's the mayor oh can you imagine can you imagine what it's going to be like because remember how the
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media was under barack obama they just they just they didn't care the media already is trying to
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make if it wasn't for donald trump i wonder if we would even know the truth about the story no i
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shouldn't say this if it wasn't for the blaze but the blaze is protected quite honestly your freedom
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of speech to say something that the media doesn't like is being protected by this administration
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that's how close we are to the end of the first amendment if it's not for him standing in the
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way blocking i'm telling you we lose our voice you wouldn't know the truth of the reichstag fire
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that happened with the shooting in portland you wouldn't know it you wouldn't know what was true
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in kenosha because we wouldn't have been there and they would have spun it as right wing far right
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uh white supremacist coming in and if you don't think that will close down every single group that
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you might be in you might have ever been associated with you're on a watch list dude you're on a watch
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list it's terrifying because if they've kind of captured the hearts and minds of the youth too
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which is really troubling to me when i see all of these you know collegiate football teams including
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byu's football team uh it is shameful talking about how they support these groups shameful what is
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going on shameful that the church needs to get rid of byu if byu can't hold to the standards of the
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church then the church should defund it and get rid of it well i don't think they understand i don't
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think they've looked into it i don't think they're paying attention to you know they hear one side on
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facebook or cnn or wherever and they don't get the full story and so they buy into the fact that
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black lives matter is about black lives mattering deseret deseret news is doing the same thing same
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thing same thing deseret news i mean it's paint deseret news owned by the church i'm sorry to get all
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really specific here but people in salt lake you need to know this wake up deseret news is now
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painting mike lee as an extremist mike lee is the furthest from extreme that i've ever seen they are
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making excuses for blm they're making excuses they are marching through the same tune and i don't know
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what's happening but the church needs to divest and get away get away from it yeah because the infection
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is there in byu in the in the universities and it's in the press get away from it here's how deep
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it goes i got this uh this is sent to us uh by a listener in uh kentucky i think fayette county
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public schools virtually virtual learning academy uh this is a fifth grade assignment where they had
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to study what the nba is doing okay here's the audio of this hey ladies if you look here this is his
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assignment this is a fayette county public schools you go over here and you see the news ella nba boycott
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wow what is the relationship between jacob lake and brianna taylor
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yeah and they don't give the context of that here's the article nba protests over black lives matter
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now and then you get the one-sided viewpoint of black lives matter
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scroll down and here's the questions so please and what are the questions if anybody tells you this is
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fake they're like this is not fake what is this is go ahead county public schools okay it's about kids
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in in small town fifth grade assignment so just to show it's not just universities uh what's the
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relationship between jacob blake and brianna taylor a both were victims of police violence sparking
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protests against racial injustice or b one supports the nba player's decision to boycott the other
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doesn't both were involved in the decision to boycott the nba blah blah blah so obviously
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you know they were both victims of police violence uh unbelievable without explaining what exactly
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happened in the in the i'm telling you jacob blake this is working this is working this is just what
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social media is doing is working the conversation in my home we talk about this stuff all the time
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in my home i mean i'm dad imagine i'm talking about it in my home and because of social media
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my kids will go but dad that's not what happened yeah right you're going to believe some friend of
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yours that sent a story on facebook over something that i do and you've grown and to love and trust me
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really scary it's terrifying it's terrifying you parents you do not have a chance if you aren't
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at your school watch last week's wednesday special just go to glenn tv at blaze tv watch last week's
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wednesday night special if you see that it is all about the schools when i i'm i'm going on a couple of
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day vacation to celebrate my wife's birthday i'm coming back next monday uh on wednesday of next week
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we have part two of what they're putting into our schools and this is horrifying and if you are
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not at your school if you are not looking over every single thing that is coming from the school
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you are going to lose your kids that is not hyperbole i truly believe there is a chance
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that we are on the edge of the times that have been foretold since the beginning of time
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i believe we're on the precipice of that if that's true you're going to lose your children
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your children will turn against you they you will lose them to darkness you must read what is happening
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trust yourself pray like you've never prayed before
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and trust the spirit to tell you what to do everyone has a right to their own personal revelation
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no one else can have revelation for you but you you and your family you get revelation for
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you can't tell me that you get revelation for me and my family
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but i know you get revelation for you and your family and now is more important than ever you and
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your children are all children of god and he does not want to lose you if you sincerely come to him
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and say help me understand help me if you do your own homework and then bring it back to him and say
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is this true is this not true it's the only light that you can trust don't trust me don't trust anyone
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these are the times where you must be so one with the spirit if it says stop
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turn around pull your kids out do this you have to be so in step that you do it immediately
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glad it is good to be with you apparently the world is still spinning earth is still here but yes
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i did go into a self-imposed coma so and uh i'm just getting back man so take it slow take it easy
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on me would you so dave tell me this are you uh are you were you more surprised last year because the
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world wasn't on fire as much as it is right now uh and so when things happen you were like wait what
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but when you went into your self-imposed uh coma uh you knew the world was crazy as hell
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so what were the things that you did you still have the no way that can't be possible did you have any
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of those you know it's funny because you were the the one who brought me back last year when i did the
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month off and then you sat down with me for two hours and and enlightened me on all the things that i
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missed and one of the really funny things that you did was you made up some stuff and then you know
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contrasted it with true things that happened and i had to guess which was true and you got it wrong
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several times you were like that can't be true so i'm gonna pick this one nope dave that one's true
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yeah well this year look it looks like we got peace in the middle east i did not expect that to
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happen in august you know there's some strange things out there i mean look this is the fourth year
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that i've done the august off the grid thing and i do no news and i try to stay away from devices and
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all of that stuff and i do it more than anything else to just get a little extra perspective on all
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of the issues that you know guys like us spend our lives talking about and that are the things that
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everyone is consumed with right now i mean what is political has now become everything everywhere
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in society and one of the problems and we've talked about this many times is that because of the
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nature of the news cycle and really twitter more than anything else how it's just driving this
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endless sort of craziness you all we're all doing all day long is reacting to everything and by taking
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a little time off i think i'm able to give myself a fresher perspective on some of this stuff but to
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directly answer your question i mean i knew that this year was going to be particularly crazy because
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of course we had the conventions um you know biden was going to pick his vp the riots racism all of
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these things and uh sadly as far as i can tell so far none of it got better no none of it got better
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what was the thing you were most surprised or you had the biggest what give me some perspective on
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something big that happened that you you've been thinking about now in the last 24 hours
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well without question i mean this deal that was signed between israel and the united arab emirates
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is beyond historic and if i'm reading the stories correctly this morning you know i'm just trying to
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catch up on everything it sounds like there could be about four more arab countries four to five
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maybe yeah more arab countries that are about to sign peace deals and if we lived in a sane society
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everyone regardless of your political affiliation your religion your belief system would be saying this is
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the most monumental absolutely staggering incredible event that has happened in terms of middle east
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politics in the last three decades they say and yet from what i can tell well trump had something to
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do with it so this is something negative yeah no they didn't they barely they said um i i actually
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heard people say this happened in spite of trump uh you know this was something really that uh was in
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the works for a long time really was it uh but anyway uh they say i was just reading today that they think
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the bds movement the boycott uh divestment and uh what's the other one yeah sanctions they say that's
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over now they say that that that movement has been destroyed by this that in and of itself is huge
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absolutely incredible and you know again because i'm just catching up on all the news stories when i
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googled it this morning you're right the framing of this is somehow this is despite trump or in spite of
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trump or has nothing to do with trump and without making everything about trump because again i'm
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just getting back on the grid here and i gotta ease my way into this whole thing it's like this is
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i thought middle east peace is what everybody wanted i thought it doesn't matter if you're you're
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on the right you're on the left you're a republican you're a democrat liberal conservative
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doesn't matter we all want peace don't we all want peace no yet somehow no no this is a big trick
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and and that just goes to why everything is so screwy man you have to be for something
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not just against people and that's one of the reasons why i'm going to do a new show with the
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blaze because that's what i want to get to so well might as well announce it now go ahead
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yeah well starting today in about uh three hours or so i've been up since about 3 a.m today
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uh i am going to be doing a new show on tuesdays wednesdays and thursdays that we are going to
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simulcast on my youtube channel which is youtube.com slash rubin report as well as stream
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on the blaze and it's going to be a 24 minute in effect a half hour show with the blaze you guys
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we we just like everything we've done together for the last year and a half or so i make all the
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decisions you're not my boss i'm not your boss we're just we really have to say this anymore do
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people even do people still say that i mean it's so crazy so crazy i'm sorry glenn you don't control
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me god that's so crazy i mean i mean you know me dave do i seem like a controlling guy that i want
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to control everybody's show have i ever struck you that way controls you dave rubin it's so stupid
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but but what i'm going to be doing is i'm i'm going to wake up in the morning i'm going to have my cup
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of coffee and i am going to talk to my producer we're going to put together i'm only going to try
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to hit probably two to three stories a day you know one of the problems is we are obsessed with
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every little uh small thing that happens in the world of politics and that it's sort of what we
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were talking about before that's what's keeping everybody crazy and i actually think and one of
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the reasons i wanted to work with the blaze is you guys have or i should say we now have a have a
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bunch of hosts that i think give a really nice perspective about this stuff without making everyone
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hysterical but that really is going to be the thrust that i'm going to go for i'm going to wake up i'm
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going to go what's going on in the world and and how can we how do we pilfer a little bit of sanity
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out of it because i want people to care about the news care about current events care about what's
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happening but not be obsessed or even more disturbingly not be depressed by it and i think
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if we can if we can do a little more of that then we can start setting some of this stuff right
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oh man go ahead off the top of your head dave what i mean i told you to ease me in
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okay all right all right all right all right so maybe you'll just be a little depressed
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on today's show but not fully depressed to what the thing to not be depressed by i think is is hard
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to see but i really do believe it's happening and as you know i'm i'm here in california i'm in la
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so it's really tough when you're in california you gotta get to but i think underneath the headlines
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underneath the riots underneath racism underneath the pandemic and all of that i truly believe that
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there is an awakening happening across the country i think people are waking up to the nonsense of the
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media i think people are waking up to the nonsense of just factory settings that somehow left is good
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and right is bad um and you don't see that in the polls you don't see that on cnn but i think i
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actually think you will see it when it comes to the election and i think just look walking around la here
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when when people can recognize me which is a little tougher these days because of the mask
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but usually now when people come up to me they say hey dave you know i saw you on fox or i saw you on
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back and they're happy that they saw me and they don't want people to know it because it's still la
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and you can't have people knowing you watch scary glenn beck or scary dave rubin but if it's starting
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to bubble up here that means it's really happening elsewhere and that's not the type of stuff that the
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mainstream media can cover because it's it's antithetical to everything else that they're
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pushing but i think a wake up is happening and i'm gonna do the best i can to be as big a part of
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it as possible so i would really like to hear from you dave uh at some point when you get your
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your feet really back into the waters of stuff that i'd like to hear what do you think people on
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the left know you know what we are we are so separate in our news streams now that there's
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two versions of america and donald trump and the protests and everything else and for the life of
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me i cannot understand how people and i don't think they do i think the regular american that's
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not playing a political game not involved in politics or in media or anything else i think
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those people are looking at it those democrats that you know are just not the game players
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they're looking at the riots and they're like uh you know this has been going on for a while
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the the my own party seems to be okay with it and i'm not okay with it uh and i just can't vote for
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people who are okay with this the media in the last week and a half has been turning this now around
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on trump and blaming all these riots on trump and saying that they're now against these riots
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it's the it's the most incredible rice dog kind of lie i've ever seen and i'd like to know if
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regular people who don't pay attention that much if they buy into that yeah it's a great question man
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because it's hard to tell right it's really hard to tell because everything now whether it's the nba
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sports world or anything else going to a salon is now political so it's hard to tell
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what regular folks are thinking about things and again that's why when i when i debut this show
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just in a couple hours i am not going to try to bludgeon people over the head with just the day-to-day
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political stuff because i think there's a much bigger philosophical and moral and cultural battle
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that we're fighting um but i would say this you know the average person who's not political which is
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by the way most people the average person who just you know wants to hopefully have a job and have a
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family and have a house and a car and a dog um if their choice in november is okay we can either burn
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down the entire system and i mean that literally we're going to burn down buildings and we're going
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to tear down monuments and everything else or they can potentially vote for a guy that maybe they were
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uncomfortable with or they don't like the way he tweets or something like that i guarantee you all of
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those people which is a huge chunk of independent sort of middle middle of the road people they're
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all going to break towards law and order and towards civilization and towards some semblance of an
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america that we all love i mean to try to imagine it the other way it's pretty hard to imagine a sort of
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middle of the road person going all right i'm gonna i've been thinking about it and i'm not really
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political i don't really think about all the issues but i'm just gonna throw everything in i'm gonna
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just end the whole revolution i'm gonna i'm gonna go down with the people that are burning everything
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i just don't sense people will break that way i think they're all gonna break the other way okay
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we're back with dave rubin here in just a second returns to the grid after 31 days uh blaze tv
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thanks for having me glenn it's good to be gonna be back i think last time we spoke with three years
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ago i can't believe it's been that long it shouldn't be um i want to talk a little bit
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about the special that is coming out on netflix but i i i don't know what it's going to take
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to convince people that they are we're going to lose the idea of free choice very soon because you
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won't know what your free will really is have you been manipulated to think that can you explain that
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to people yeah um well so for people just understand also the lens that i'm using to
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talk about these topics as a kid i was a magician and so i've had a lifelong experience of asymmetric
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information like how does one party and you know magician know more about your mind than you know
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about yourself if they didn't know more then the trick wouldn't work so the whole premise
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is there's asymmetric influence from technology to us but it's not quite the kind that people think i
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mean think about the time last time you said i'm going to watch this one youtube video that looks
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really interesting and then i'm going to go back to work after the video and next thing you know you
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wake up two hours later and you say what what just happened to me and you think man i should have had
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more self-control but what that hides is behind that piece of glass that screen is like basically the
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largest supercomputer in the world that has almost like an avatar voodoo doll model of you and it can
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basically simulate if i were to prick you with this video versus with this video how long could i get
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you to stay and youtube is running these simulations on each of our avatars uh to figure out what's the
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perfect next video to show and you think about the fact that our brain you know is running pretty old
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hardware there compared to the biggest supercomputer in the world at google that we're going to lose
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that battle and that's the problem is that technology we have the largest ai systems in the world
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predicting what's the perfect thing to keep you here and the problem is that that reinforces
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affirmation not information because the things that tend to work that keep you there are things
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that confirm your views about reality that are even a more extreme view of your existing view of reality
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so if you look around the world and you say why does the whole world feel like it's gone crazy
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everywhere all at once you're seeing levels of polarization divisiveness anger you're seeing you know
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extremist militias on on all sides showing up you know around the world you're seeing people in the
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streets you know where what do these countries have in common and the answer is is social media has
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become the information um infrastructure for you know humanity and it's not having our best interests
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at heart so so the film the social dilemma um is really the first film you can think of it almost like
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the insider with big tobacco because the film takes the insiders who built the facebook like button
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the father of virtual reality jaron lanier the youtube recommendations engineer who built some
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of the recommendation system um early employees from twitter from pinterest from instagram who are all
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talking on camera about these are the unintended consequences of these systems that have kind of
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you know gone out of control like a frankenstein and um and that's why the film is so important because
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you know as long as these companies profit from outrage from confusion from distraction from addiction
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from depression let alone we haven't talked about the issues of teenage girls um because uh teenage
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girls age 10 to 14 years old uh suicides have gone up by about 150 percent since 2009 or 10 and that's
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and that's we think very related to social media really arriving on mobile at that time and putting
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teenage girls especially in this kind of constant bullying social pressure type situation which is
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something of universal concern so you know this film we're really hoping that this becomes um kind of
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a shared artifact a shared truth about the breakdown of shared truth and about the breakdown of society
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that's occurred from these social media platforms and then figure out how do we fight back from there
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right how do we take back control but how do you i mean you know i was seeing today um the head of
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youtube she was talking about how you know they're going to start uh looking for and they already have
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authoritarian news and then you know pushing down anything that they don't feel is you know from
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an authoritative source um and they and she said we're teaching uh the um uh the super i can't remember
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what she called it not the algorithm algorithm yeah she said we're we are teaching through machine
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learning uh you know what truth is and i thought they they don't even know what truth i can't tell you
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what truth is they think they know what truth is how do you ever when this machine as we approach the
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singularity how do you ever retrain it to think truth is something else yeah they they really can't
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i mean i think you and i both know this there's what is what is truth right i mean i don't mean that
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truth doesn't exist but let's say that we're looking on twitter as an example for for just a second so
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you truth is well the best quote unquote truth i mean the basis of what truth could be defined as
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is what people are tweeting but people are tweeting about things that happened 30 seconds ago or five
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minutes ago and people don't know what's true and they can put they can simply spin it and you the way
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to think about it i think is that twitter has turned each of us into yellow journalists where each of us
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are incentivized to say something with absolute certainty without knowing that it's true and this is
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happening on all sides of the political spectrum and it means that we're we're just lobbing things
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it's almost like we're littering into the epistemic commons we're littering into the information
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environment um and we're we're polluting it but we don't actually see that that's what we're doing
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and twitter incentivizes us because it gives us that dopamine rush of look you get more likes and more
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followers the more angry you are and the more certain you are and the bigger mob you build off of the
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caricature of what someone else on the other side said and this is happening again on all sides
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is driving all of us into this very warlike you know i think we're all feeling um this this almost
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like pre-civil war type thing that we we don't have to go this way we're really hoping that this film
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can become kind of a wake-up call uh for that and and the same thing if you want to go to the youtube
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example you know they don't know what truth is um they can they can do things like okay we're going to
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prioritize um you know longer standing brands of media because that that might be helpful and you know
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it's been a kind of massively democratized force which uh you know has had many benefits but the
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problem is that there's many many uh people gaming that system i think there's an article in the
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neiman german journalism lab that something like 400 local news sites are just masquerading you know
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fake news sites basically because it's very easy to start up these local fake news sites that are fake
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um and one one reason for that by the way in the death of the fourth estate in local journalism is
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because technology companies have hollowed out the profitability of all these local newspapers as
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we know and as you know you know thomas jefferson uh if i had to choose between uh you know having
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government versus uh having having perfect news i would choose perfect news because the people need
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to be informed and one of the other side consequences of technology companies is hollowing out the
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profitability of local journalism which we need to keep our institutions in check yeah i find many times
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it's the local news reporters are the only ones you can trust they're closest to it they have the video
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um and they're not part of this system although that you know they are part of the clicks and the likes and
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everything else um but but generally speaking the closer you get to it the the more accurate it is
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um and and they have go ahead have more of these incentives and the you know theoretically i mean it used to be
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the training to figure out okay we don't just report on it because it happened we say there's a developing
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story here we're going to figure it out and that's what local journalism would do but again when local
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journalism has to cater to that same race to the bottom of the brainstem to get clicks out of people
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because facebook is the you know they're beholden to facebook right local journalism gets most of its
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traffic from facebook which means that they have to participate in this kind of race to the bottom of
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outrage and clickbait headlines and things like that and so it's actually made journalism writ large
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even worse across the board everywhere in the world and that's what's so subtle about this it's it's so
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invisible because we're 10 years into this grand psychology experiment that that this is the largest
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psychology experiment we've ever run on humanity where you have literally you know three or four
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major technology companies with you know a hundred people making these design decisions and algorithm
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decisions that are then shaping what three billion people are thinking and believing about what's real
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and each of us have been in it we treat it as normal that of course that's what's real and that's
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what the news is but we don't see that we're being fed a completely different diet than the person
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right next to us including our own family member um and that and that's what's so pernicious about it
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is the invisibility of this breakdown of truth of shared truth of shared reality
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