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00:00:30.000 Welcome to the podcast.

00:00:31.280 Today, we talk to Steve Baker.

00:00:34.440 He's from The Blaze, and he's going to be apparently arrested tomorrow.

00:00:38.740 He's turning himself in to authorities because of his dastardly actions on January 6th,

00:00:44.580 which are all on video, apparently, and don't show him doing much of anything other than reporting,

00:00:50.300 which is what he is, a reporter.

00:00:52.080 An incredible turn in this country.

00:00:54.020 We have David Harsanian about the accusations from the media that anyone who's a Christian

00:00:58.820 is automatically a Christian nationalist.

00:01:01.260 We'll get into that.

00:01:02.780 And we will talk about, we had a, I would say, a passionate discussion about the pros and cons of Cap'n Crunch.

00:01:11.840 You know, look, it's a controversial thing, and I know a lot of people don't want to,

00:01:15.340 don't feel like they can handle a discussion like that.

00:01:18.120 If the roof of your mouth can handle Cap'n Crunch, you're a better man than me.

00:01:24.620 You're a better man than me.

00:01:25.620 It's a passionate discussion, and I think will lead to a lot of controversy across the country.

00:01:32.060 We'll get into that.

00:01:33.400 It's all in today's podcast.

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00:01:50.780 Am I going to shoot and possibly kill this person or not? 1.00

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00:03:08.380 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:03:14.140 So I don't want to talk insider radio kind of stuff.

00:03:18.820 But this is very important for you to understand.

00:03:21.840 The power of your local stations.

00:03:24.980 It is, it's absolutely critical.

00:03:27.920 And a lot of damage has been done by these giant corporations owning everybody.

00:03:33.200 There's no real mom and pops left anymore.

00:03:35.720 And I think, personally, that's a problem.

00:03:39.280 However, the largest radio corporation is the one that I have worked for and with now since 1989.

00:03:47.500 It was Clear Channel.

00:03:48.880 It's now iHeart Radio.

00:03:50.540 And it's the largest broadcaster in America.

00:03:55.060 The second largest, what do they rename it?

00:03:58.580 Odyssey?

00:03:59.180 Yeah, is it Odyssey?

00:04:00.500 Yeah, it's Odyssey, I think.

00:04:02.460 Right?

00:04:03.140 Odyssey's one of them.

00:04:03.840 I just don't know which one you're talking about.

00:04:05.360 The J-Core, the old J-Core. 0.86

00:04:08.780 Yeah.

00:04:09.240 Anyway.

00:04:09.740 They've changed so many times now.

00:04:10.540 Yeah, they've changed so many times we don't even.

00:04:12.340 But that one just was purchased by the Soros Group.

00:04:16.340 Okay?

00:04:16.840 Second largest.

00:04:17.520 And then the third largest looks like it may go to a Singapore group, so not even owned by America.

00:04:27.100 Really not a good thing.

00:04:29.740 Brennan Carr is the FCC commissioner who I just am a big fan of because he actually will speak out on behalf of the American people and freedom of speech.

00:04:41.300 He issued a warning a couple of days ago.

00:04:44.860 The FCC just ordered every broadcaster to start posting a race and gender scorecard that breaks down the demographics of their workforce.

00:04:55.800 Activists lobbied for this because they want to see businesses pressured into hiring people based on their race and gender.

00:05:03.060 We welcome Brennan Carr to the program now.

00:05:07.020 Hi, Brennan.

00:05:09.000 So good to be back with you.

00:05:09.900 Thanks for having me on.

00:05:10.620 So what does this mean for the average radio station and radio group?

00:05:18.060 What does this mean?

00:05:19.100 Yeah, this is a pretty wild decision by the FCC, and you're right that it has to do with broadcasters, but it's also part of a more broad effort to sort of compel businesses at large, even outside the broadcaster context, to hire or not hire people based on their race and gender.

00:05:39.580 And so the FCC tried to do this many, many years ago, in fact, twice before the FCC has sought to pressure broadcasters into hiring people based on race and gender in violation of the equal protection components of the Constitution.

00:05:54.440 And the courts have struck the FCC down twice, but now here the FCC goes again for a third time.

00:05:59.960 And as you noted, it's going to require every single broadcaster to publicly disclose a race and gender scorecard that lists every employee across these demographics lines.

00:06:10.220 And the FCC's record was very clear.

00:06:13.220 The one reason why activist groups and others wanted the FCC to do this is because they want to launch public pressure campaigns targeting individual stations if they don't have what the activists view as some proper balance or the right number of some unspecified amount of race and ethnicity employees.

00:06:34.000 And so it's deeply, deeply concerning.

00:06:36.180 So what is terrifying to me is the arrogance of so many people on the left.

00:06:44.200 This whole woke thing is completely falling apart.

00:06:48.180 It's falling apart, like, in ways I never expected.

00:06:51.720 I don't know if anybody saw the opening monologue of Saturday Night Live this last weekend.

00:06:56.900 And the answer should be, for most people, no.

00:06:59.600 But it was actually funny because it broke rules, the woke rules.

00:07:04.980 This is coming apart, and yet they're still going down this direction.

00:07:11.320 Is this a done deal?

00:07:13.540 Is this going to go to the Supreme Court another time?

00:07:16.700 Has anybody filed against it?

00:07:19.360 Yeah, what's funny to me about all this, as you noted, is the government is usually a little bit slow.

00:07:23.620 It's a little bit behind trends.

00:07:25.360 The government's not the fastest-moving entity.

00:07:27.540 And so when, in sort of the real world, you see the tide turning slowly against these sort of radical versions of DEI, that's the precise moment when the FCC decides to jump in and double down on that type of approach.

00:07:41.780 I do hope it's appealed.

00:07:42.860 There are a number of entities that have appealed this before in one.

00:07:46.020 And so I'm hopeful that some groups of broadcasters or otherwise will take this to court.

00:07:51.900 But it's also part and parcel of a broader trend we're seeing with free speech in the country where the government is outsourcing censorship to third parties, whether it's Facebook and Google.

00:08:03.120 And this is the same type of pattern as well.

00:08:04.760 We are trying to sort of co-opt these activist organizations to force people into hiring based on, you know, race and gender.

00:08:13.740 And the Constitution and the constitutional law is very clear.

00:08:17.040 The government can't do indirectly that which it is prohibited from doing directly.

00:08:21.300 So I do hope that somebody takes this up and goes to court because it is part of these, you know, very broadly speaking, concerning trends.

00:08:29.940 So last time you were on with me, I think, was back in November.

00:08:32.560 And we talked about how the Biden administration wants to control the Internet in the name of equity.

00:08:40.880 I've seen the FCC lean one direction or another on trying to silence people.

00:08:52.980 You know, they always try to use the FCC to go after Rush Limbaugh, and it's always failed.

00:08:58.460 Then it got very quiet.

00:09:00.200 We didn't have any attacks, boycotts, and et cetera, et cetera, for a while now since Rush Limbaugh died.

00:09:08.580 But I can't believe they've just turned their eyes away from the freedom that we have on regulated airwaves.

00:09:18.680 How is this developing?

00:09:23.120 How do you feel about the future of free speech on radio?

00:09:27.260 Yeah, I think you're right to notice this broader trend.

00:09:31.040 I mean, when I was growing up in high school in the 1990s, you're right, there was sort of a surge of FCC activity there, whether it was, you know, censorship or political censorship.

00:09:41.200 In fact, I remember very famously when I was in high school, Eminem, the FCC won't let me be.

00:09:45.780 And for a little while there, the FCC sort of turned a corner, as you noted, in sort of the mid-2000s and for a while stayed out of this type of political censorship type of activity.

00:09:56.020 And it is concerning as to where things are going now.

00:09:58.240 As you pointed out, the Biden administration is engaged in a lot of regulatory actions that are ultimately about increasing government control and then down the road increasing of censorship.

00:10:09.800 And what's clear in this country as a cultural matter is we have to return to an embrace of free speech for a lot of reasons.

00:10:17.200 But one is the soapbox is directly connected to the ballot box.

00:10:22.440 What I mean by that is once people start not trusting Americans with the freedom to speak their minds on the soapbox, they very naturally go into, well, I also don't trust you to make your own decisions at the ballot box.

00:10:34.240 And I think in some ways we're starting to see that. And again, sort of switching back to this FCC order on race and gender scorecards, the FCC claimed it wasn't doing it to pressure people.

00:10:43.540 In fact, one of the lead justifications they gave for publicly disclosing this is that it said they wanted the public to be able to have the data so that they could verify the accuracy of these disclosures by broadcasters, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

00:10:57.480 What exactly does the federal government want the public to do to verify the race and gender of employees?

00:11:04.000 How exactly are they going to verify that, particularly when the FCC is adding newly a category of gender non-binary?

00:11:10.280 But whatever that mechanism is that the FCC wants the public to verify the race and gender of broadcasters, I'm not sure we should be encouraging that type of conduct.

00:11:18.200 So I think this is a continuing trend of the story that came out today where the president directed all agencies to work on a plan to register more voters, which is not the job of the State Department or the FCC or anybody else.

00:11:39.600 And there was a lawsuit by the Government Accountability Office to be able to see those plans.

00:11:50.700 The DOJ has just rejected offering those plans and turning those plans over in this court case because they say it will be confusing for the American public.

00:12:05.680 Who do they think they are and who do they think we are that we'd be confused by evidence of of whatever it is you're doing, good or bad?

00:12:16.280 Yeah, you know, it's concerning this sort of paternalistic approach of not trusting the American people.

00:12:23.860 That's the fundamental component of democracy is that we have to trust people.

00:12:29.140 And, you know, the other sort of interesting development of the last couple of days or so, you know, I'm sure you've been tracking was this Google AI that has been sort of widely criticized for being biased.

00:12:40.240 And I think there's actually something that we should give Google credit for with this in terms of a contribution to public discourse.

00:12:47.340 And that is that it has laid bare for the American people to see in the clearest terms yet the bias and sort of partisan ideology that has been embedded in so much of the products coming out of Silicon Valley.

00:13:00.720 And for years, people said, well, there's no conservative bias in Silicon Valley and these Google AI chatbots really make that clear.

00:13:10.320 In fact, last weekend I went on it and I asked it to write an op ed against President Biden's signature effort to control the Internet known as net neutrality.

00:13:20.240 And it said it couldn't do that. And I asked it to write one in support of that exact same policy, net neutrality.

00:13:26.500 And it wrote a very long, flourishing one about it.

00:13:29.120 So as things move more into this space of artificial intelligence and AI, it's deeply concerning the really serious partisan bias that clearly has been embedded in these algorithms.

00:13:42.180 And Google came out and said, well, mea culpa, it was a mistake. It actually was not a mistake.

00:13:47.020 In fact, again, hats off to them. They have an ideology and they found a way to code it deeply into these algorithms in an effective way.

00:13:54.240 But we need to sort of step back and make sure that we don't have these biases embedded as these technologies start moving forward.

00:14:00.580 Yeah, I tell you, the only mistake they made was that they were discovered. It wasn't subtle enough.

00:14:06.700 You know, they're very into changing people's minds without their fingerprints on anything.

00:14:12.440 Brendan, thank you so much. I appreciate everything that that you do and you're warning us about.

00:14:18.760 I'm extraordinarily concerned about my job and the jobs of those people who do disagree with the government for the first time in my life.

00:14:32.100 I think I'm I may lose my job at one point or lose my ability to speak out.

00:14:39.680 That's never happened to me before. And I appreciate the warning signs.

00:14:45.160 Yeah, well, thanks so much for having me on. I think these are really important issues to track.

00:14:49.080 Again, each one individually looks like it could be a one off, whether it's these digital equity rules for the Internet or the government working with Silicon Valley to censor Americans political speech or these race and gender scorecards.

00:15:00.140 But you have to put them all together because they're not pinpricks. It's a mosaic.

00:15:03.860 At the end of the day, it's about more and more government control.

00:15:07.620 And, you know, the government is colluding with these large technology companies to to carry out an effort to put more controls on more speech than we've ever seen in our history.

00:15:16.880 And I think the good news is things are turning slightly.

00:15:19.580 I think, you know, the the the maximum effort of censorship happened during covid whenever there's government control that covid was sort of by by definition.

00:15:26.560 You increase in censorship. I think it's receding.

00:15:30.580 But it's also it's kind of downstream from this extreme version of identity politics, because once you divide the world into oppressors and oppressed, then it's very easy to take all the rights away, including free speech rights of the oppressor group.

00:15:43.840 And there's no sort of free exchange of information and free debate.

00:15:47.380 But but we've got to get back to that as a cultural matter.

00:15:49.640 I will tell you. Thank you very much. I will tell you tomorrow I'm going to be talking about what's happening in Canada.

00:15:54.700 Trudeau has just introduced a bill that is going through parliament now that will make hate speech.

00:16:05.200 Life in prison.

00:16:08.080 You're engaged in hate speech.

00:16:10.920 You could get life in prison in Canada.

00:16:14.720 You want to talk about bone chilling.

00:16:17.600 They are way down this road and we've got to turn around.

00:16:21.040 Brendan Carr, FCC commissioner. Thank you so much.

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00:17:32.760 Now back to the podcast.

00:17:37.380 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:17:41.980 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program and say hello to our good friend, David Harsani.

00:17:47.300 He is the Federalist Senior Writer and National Review Columnist.

00:17:51.980 He has just written a column for the Federalist that says,

00:17:55.400 We're all just Christian nationalists now.

00:17:58.320 Are we all?

00:17:59.120 If this is Christian nationalism, count me in. 0.99

00:18:03.600 As I have said on this program, do not take this charge lightly.

00:18:10.180 And I don't think David does.

00:18:13.600 But don't call yourself a Christian nationalist.

00:18:16.900 It does have meaning.

00:18:17.860 And I'll show you on tomorrow's show why they are saying it.

00:18:21.760 And this is coming from the government.

00:18:23.820 Why are they doing this?

00:18:26.220 I'll show you.

00:18:27.100 It's going to have great ramifications.

00:18:29.220 But David made such a great case about this.

00:18:32.020 I wanted to have him on.

00:18:32.920 Hi, David.

00:18:34.260 Hi there.

00:18:34.880 Thanks for having me.

00:18:35.540 You bet.

00:18:36.400 So count me in.

00:18:39.100 We're all Christian nationalists.

00:18:40.480 Why do you say that?

00:18:42.740 Well, I mean, I don't know.

00:18:44.860 I should say that the way that these people I'm writing about on MSNBC describe Christian nationalism is not really a thing.

00:18:51.400 It's just what the Declaration of Independence says.

00:18:54.940 And it's the core idea of America.

00:18:57.520 If you think that your rights come from the state, then you don't understand the United States.

00:19:03.200 You don't understand the founding.

00:19:04.460 And actually, the founding can't really work for you.

00:19:07.440 And I think that they're actually being honest as well.

00:19:10.120 I mean, I do think they believe rights come from the state and that this way they can get rid of rights they don't like, add new ones whenever they feel like it.

00:19:17.660 And that's a huge problem.

00:19:19.580 Yeah, that's the Soviet Union.

00:19:22.840 Right?

00:19:24.060 You know?

00:19:24.920 Every autocracy.

00:19:26.220 Yeah.

00:19:26.640 Yeah.

00:19:27.780 So explain nature's God and nature's law.

00:19:34.700 Well, you know how people always say they're spiritual but not religious?

00:19:38.120 Yeah.

00:19:38.540 I guess I'm the opposite.

00:19:39.980 I'm not really spiritual, but I'm definitely religious because I think religion offers incredibly important ideas about the world that were, you know, even if you believe in God, you also probably believe that they evolved into religion because they're the right things.

00:19:57.640 I do believe that.

00:19:58.660 So for me, it is clear that man has innate rights.

00:20:03.940 I'm not sure why or where they come from, but in my heart, I know it and rationally, I know it.

00:20:09.420 So the right to speak your mind, the right to practice your faith, the right to own property, all the things that are basically enshrined in the Constitution, those basic rights, which are negative rights, meaning like I'm not asking someone to do anything for me.

00:20:23.440 These are just things I'm born with, I think, are vital to living a free and prosperous life.

00:20:30.700 And the Constitution's not perfect or anything like that, but it's as close as I think humans have gotten.

00:20:35.620 So if you don't believe in God, you should act like you do when you talk about the law.

00:20:39.740 Does that make sense?

00:20:40.820 Yeah, I think so.

00:20:42.140 The idea that you're born with rights given to you by your family's position or the state, they can take those rights away at any time.

00:20:58.760 And we all know, wait, I'm an individual.

00:21:01.820 This is why this always happens in times of collectivism, because it's the group over the individual, where America was always about the individual, help the individual live a great life, allow them to be able to celebrate God in their own way,

00:21:24.200 which would be their governor, their regulator, if you will, on their passions, and let everybody just do their thing.

00:21:32.600 And you'll be amazed at what happens.

00:21:35.380 We've always known in America that's true.

00:21:39.180 Yeah, I think people hear the word individual and they they like it computes as selfish or something like that.

00:21:46.480 But it's not.

00:21:47.020 I mean, the difference is an individual can go to their church, give charity to whoever they want.

00:21:53.020 The collective decides who you give charity to and maybe where you go to church.

00:21:58.240 And that is the difference.

00:21:59.760 Individualism doesn't mean that you can't become part of a community and do things communally, but it does mean that you're not treated individually.

00:22:07.520 I mean, for instance, democracy, everyone keeps talking about it and they never really define it.

00:22:11.520 But I don't really care about democracy when it comes to rights, because I don't care that three people can tell me what to do.

00:22:18.520 That's not how it works.

00:22:19.380 And that's what I think, you know, just to clarify what individualism, I think, means to the person who believes in natural rights.

00:22:25.760 David, have you noticed that every time the left accuses the right of something, they're doing it?

00:22:32.880 Projection, yeah.

00:22:33.460 I mean, it is it's incredibly consistent.

00:22:38.260 I think we have a new national religion now in America with high priests and, you know, a confessional and everything.

00:22:47.560 It's like the issue of abortion, which I think, you know, the key natural right is your right to life.

00:22:53.460 Right. But when the Supreme Court, you know, they were yelling about democracy forever, democracy, this, that.

00:22:59.140 And when the Supreme Court's like, OK, you can vote on this now.

00:23:02.580 Then they're like, that is, you know, you're attacking democracy now.

00:23:06.000 Right. Right.

00:23:06.980 To them, it's it's it's so malleable.

00:23:09.940 It could be anything. It could be anything they believe right now.

00:23:13.060 It has no I often try to ask them to define what it means, but they don't really.

00:23:17.800 I mean, the left doesn't really debate anymore.

00:23:19.300 They just, you know, they call you some whatever name they're calling you now today.

00:23:23.960 It's Christian nationalist, you know, and that's what you are.

00:23:26.760 So they don't really debate it or or define their terms, etc.

00:23:29.940 So let me change subjects here real quickly.

00:23:32.520 Stu and I were talking about Donald Trump having probably a very good week for him with, you know,

00:23:41.280 the decision with the Supreme Court yesterday and and also what's happening with Fannie Willis or Fannie Willis.

00:23:50.000 What are your take on those two cases?

00:23:55.440 I this is my broader view.

00:23:57.860 The whole thing is that that Donald Trump's biggest strength or one of his biggest strengths is that his enemies are just the worst people.

00:24:05.260 I have the worst enemies.

00:24:11.000 Trust me, you've never seen enemies like this before.

00:24:14.380 Nobody has.

00:24:16.620 I mean, from the start, you know, and I'm not I'm not a huge fan of the guy, truthfully, but but the people who hate him are worse than he is.

00:24:24.900 So to save democracy, they're worse than he is to, you know, to take him off ballots.

00:24:30.540 The people who are supposedly upholding Constitution and democracy and all that, you know, are worse than he is.

00:24:37.980 As the things I don't like about him, let's say how he talks about government or maybe that he's a little bit not conservative enough for me.

00:24:45.920 Frankly, you know, I think one of the big secrets about Donald Trump is he's actually quite moderate on a lot of issues where I would say normal, you know, when it comes to gender or borders or things like that, is that his his enemies are the worst people.

00:25:01.600 And a lot of people under because of the hysteria about Donald Trump, a lot of bad people, a lot of people want to make their names have gotten in in with the mob going after him.

00:25:11.880 And because of the hatred for him, a lot of people on the left just let, you know, praise all these people before actually maybe vetting them a bit.

00:25:21.360 So, yeah, I think it's a good it was a good week for Donald Trump.

00:25:25.540 What do you think is going to happen with Fannie?

00:25:27.480 What do you think is going to happen with the Fannie Willis case?

00:25:32.700 I don't know. I don't know how you can move forward knowing all we know right now.

00:25:37.080 Right. But I don't know.

00:25:38.620 You know, here's my thing.

00:25:40.300 So in New York, you have a case where you have a New York jury and or New York judge even or you have a D.C. jury or D.C. judge.

00:25:48.700 Right. Another case.

00:25:50.480 They're going to they're going to convict Donald Trump.

00:25:52.960 They're not guilty. They're going to ask him to hand over 500 million bucks because they hate him.

00:25:57.040 And I don't think those are fair trials.

00:25:58.700 I don't know how it's going to go in Georgia.

00:26:00.100 I guess my answer.

00:26:01.240 So you think there's a chance she keeps her job? 0.62

00:26:03.860 In any normal environment, that would not be the case.

00:26:11.000 But I'm not sure.

00:26:12.260 Wow.

00:26:12.740 I don't.

00:26:13.420 What do you guys think?

00:26:14.240 No.

00:26:14.420 I mean, I don't think she I mean, how does the governor not call for if the judge doesn't turn on her and say these are clear lies?

00:26:27.480 If you perjured yourself, she should lose her license.

00:26:31.620 She should pay a big fine and possibly because they did it with such zeal go to jail. 0.97

00:26:39.360 I mean, I don't think I've ever seen a more clear cut case on perjury because she did it with zeal where I've seen people perjure themselves.

00:26:50.600 Anthony Fauci, but he's not necessarily going, well, actually, he did, too.

00:26:57.600 But she just went in passionately. 0.96

00:27:01.200 Her attorneys even tried to stop her. 0.99

00:27:03.480 So I can't imagine why that wouldn't happen.

00:27:05.960 But then again, you also have a governor who is a conservative governor.

00:27:12.460 Why wouldn't he open?

00:27:14.680 I mean, if he's a rule of law guy, he should open a special investigation if nothing happened.

00:27:20.000 It does seem like there are some developments in that world as well.

00:27:22.620 It's like, again, this judge was appointed by a Republican and, you know, I believe was in the Federalist Society at some point.

00:27:29.900 So I don't know.

00:27:31.580 I mean, it's this is not a D.C. jury we're talking about here.

00:27:35.760 This is this should this should there should be some rational thought brought into this situation.

00:27:40.880 But again, I think the pessimism usually wins.

00:27:44.200 That's that's the end of the story.

00:27:46.120 I just feel like everything's falling apart and lawless.

00:27:48.560 So I don't you know, I'm scared to say what I think is going to happen.

00:27:51.640 I just want more and more Fanny Willis on the stand. 1.00

00:27:54.440 Oh, yes.

00:27:55.240 It was so fun to watch, wasn't it?

00:27:58.520 I mean, yeah, I felt a little like an arsonist, except I didn't start the fire.

00:28:04.560 But I was I was just watching like that is beautiful.

00:28:08.340 It's like that.

00:28:10.780 It's like that meme of girl watch smiling, watching the house burn down.

00:28:14.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:16.380 All right.

00:28:17.160 Thanks so much, David.

00:28:18.740 I appreciate it.

00:28:19.580 From the Federalist, David Harsani.

00:28:22.800 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:28:25.220 This should speak volumes to you.

00:28:33.760 There's a new poll out.

00:28:35.140 It shows that the border is the number one problem.

00:28:39.720 Now, you would think the economy would be number two, taking a poll of average Americans.

00:28:45.640 You know, number two is something I don't think I've ever seen before in a poll.

00:28:50.640 Government.

00:28:51.160 Number one is the border.

00:28:54.560 Number two is government.

00:28:56.800 I don't even know what that entails.

00:28:59.200 I know what that means to me.

00:29:01.440 And number three is the economy.

00:29:05.080 And government is a problem.

00:29:07.120 They are interfering everywhere.

00:29:10.460 And now we have Steve Baker, our investigative journalist with the Blaze Media.

00:29:16.700 He has been covering January 6th and doing research on this.

00:29:21.000 Since January 6th, he's been working as a journalist on this.

00:29:27.360 The FBI has issued a warrant for him to turn himself in tomorrow.

00:29:35.100 We don't know what the charges are.

00:29:37.280 No idea.

00:29:38.800 Steve, I've been praying for you this week.

00:29:41.880 I know many members of the audience are doing the same.

00:29:46.860 This is crazy what's about to happen to you tomorrow.

00:29:51.300 Yeah, I've always been more worried about my unpaid parking tickets from college.

00:29:55.180 Yeah.

00:29:55.660 Yeah.

00:29:55.900 You are a nice, gentle, regular guy.

00:30:02.440 And do you even know what the charges are?

00:30:06.580 No, they haven't told us yet.

00:30:08.500 Is that usual?

00:30:09.660 No.

00:30:10.100 Back two and a half years ago when they initially threatened me and said that I would be arrested within the week in November of 21,

00:30:17.120 they actually told my attorney at the time what the charges were going to be then.

00:30:21.460 But because I'm a little outspoken and vocal about what's happening with me,

00:30:26.620 we were told at the time by an assistant U.S. attorney that a judge would not be happy with me going out to the press in the manner that I've done.

00:30:36.380 So I just intensified that and accelerated that and lit that candle brighter.

00:30:43.140 Yeah.

00:30:43.800 I know.

00:30:44.160 I see the look on your face.

00:30:45.260 I see the look on your face.

00:30:46.200 I know.

00:30:46.220 What right is it for them to say, we're coming after you, and then when you say, hey, by the way, everybody, they're saying they're coming after me.

00:30:54.820 They haven't said why they're coming after me.

00:30:57.480 This is all I've done.

00:30:59.660 Why would you be in trouble for defending yourself in the public square?

00:31:05.040 Because once they arrest you, well, now you've been arrested by the FBI.

00:31:09.760 It's a really bad thing, even if you're innocent.

00:31:11.860 Well, two years ago, the U.S. attorney said to my attorney that a judge will not look favorably upon this, to which my attorney responded,

00:31:20.120 are you saying that my client should forego his First Amendment right under the threat of persecution from the federal government?

00:31:27.360 And she said, oh, no, we're not really saying that.

00:31:29.360 We just, you know, it's just we're concerned that, you know, for him and his status.

00:31:33.700 They're concerned for you.

00:31:35.680 I kid you not.

00:31:36.420 Now, fast forward two years under the current threat, and they won't tell me the charges this time, literally, quote, unquote, from the U.S. attorney, because he'll tweet it out.

00:31:48.400 Well, what?

00:31:49.660 Yeah.

00:31:50.400 Yeah.

00:31:50.940 We'll do it for you.

00:31:52.640 Yeah.

00:31:53.080 Technically, the charges are under seal until you're actually arrested.

00:31:57.260 So they are technically not in violation of any law.

00:32:02.460 Right.

00:32:02.820 But so tomorrow morning at seven o'clock when I arrive at the FBI field office here in Dallas, I will learn what my charges are.

00:32:12.780 And what is it that you are supposed to dress?

00:32:17.160 How are they?

00:32:17.880 What did they advice?

00:32:19.120 Did they give you?

00:32:19.760 They notified my attorney that I needed to arrive in shorts, a T-shirt, and flip-flops.

00:32:28.420 And why is that?

00:32:29.900 It's easier to change into the orange jumpsuit and leg chains.

00:32:38.720 And is that something that everybody does?

00:32:44.080 When they bust down somebody's door, do they say, hey, change into a T-shirt and some flip-flops?

00:32:49.960 I don't think that when they bust in your door, you get that opportunity or that choice.

00:32:54.940 When they invite people to turn themselves in.

00:32:57.700 I've never seen people turn themselves in.

00:33:01.140 This is exactly what they did to the independent journalist Stephen Horn from Raleigh, North Carolina, coincidentally, where I live.

00:33:07.100 And when they arrested him and they brought him in, they did exactly the same thing.

00:33:12.060 They put him in an orange jumpsuit, put leg chains on him, and made him march before the magistrate in the leg chains on misdemeanor offenses.

00:33:23.960 That's one of the interesting parts here because you don't know, as you point out, what you're being charged with.

00:33:29.720 But you do know that they are misdemeanors, right?

00:33:31.860 That is what they have told my attorney.

00:33:33.560 So why on earth would you need to be in leg chains?

00:33:38.160 We have prosecutors all over the country that won't charge people who have sexually assaulted individuals with crimes.

00:33:45.880 And they won't hold them and they release the next day.

00:33:49.240 And they're going to put you in leg chains for misdemeanors?

00:33:51.600 Let's start with the bigger question and we'll work our way to that specific answer.

00:33:56.660 This is the first time in history since January 6th that the FBI is even involving themselves in misdemeanor offenses and with misdemeanor defendants and swatting misdemeanor defendants with sometimes 15, 20, 25 agents swatting misdemeanor.

00:34:16.100 No, they, the FBI has never done that in their history until ordered to do so by Merrick Garland's DOJ after January 6th.

00:34:26.060 So fast forward to this, why are they doing that?

00:34:29.700 Why are they requiring me?

00:34:30.840 My, my attorney told me when he told me that this was what they were going to have me, you know, requesting that I arrive dressed in flip-flops and shorts.

00:34:40.340 I said, why are they doing this to me?

00:34:41.920 He said, you know why?

00:34:43.520 He said, you've been poking them in the eye for three years.

00:34:46.980 This is retribution.

00:34:48.400 This is evil.

00:34:50.260 It's just evil.

00:34:52.140 When, when you have a government, I mean, I don't know if you saw the story today from California, but there was a judge in California said, you can't arrest just people on the right.

00:35:01.900 When Antifa was there and they were being violent, beating up these people, you arrest the people they were beating up and you don't arrest Antifa.

00:35:11.640 That doesn't make any sense at all.

00:35:14.660 When a, when a, when a United States government can come after individuals.

00:35:21.640 And, you know, we've been saying this from the beginning, if they'll do this to Trump, you don't think they'll do it to you?

00:35:27.760 Well, the selective prosecution is exactly what's happening right here.

00:35:33.700 We have over 60, we have documented over 60 journalists that entered through those doors or broken windows that day.

00:35:42.780 The fifth person through the broken window that day was a New York Times reporter.

00:35:47.320 The New Yorker reporter, Luke Mogelson, went through the broken window and he paralleled another independent photojournalist.

00:35:55.220 They, they went through the same window, paralleled the other journalist.

00:35:58.300 He had spent a lot of time working on the Latinos for Trump campaign.

00:36:05.380 Well, even though he didn't parade, he didn't do any protesting.

00:36:10.720 He did no chanting, anything of the sort, and was contracted at the time as a video photojournalist for a TV station in Mobile, Alabama.

00:36:21.080 Even though that was the groundwork laid, four misdemeanors swatted by over 20 agents at his home with the red dots on his wife, his children, and of course, obviously himself at 630 in the morning.

00:36:36.760 And then he was convicted.

00:36:40.020 He said, I'm going to go to trial on this.

00:36:41.920 He said, Luke Mogelson from the New Yorker.

00:36:43.520 We went through the same window at the same time and he hasn't been charged.

00:36:47.180 I'm going to go stand before a judge.

00:36:48.480 He did a bench trial.

00:36:49.880 He was convicted on all four misdemeanors.

00:36:51.720 And because he went to trial and he wasted the government's time and resources and not taking the plea deal that he was offered, the judge put him in prison for eight months, sentenced him to eight months.

00:37:02.620 They put him in a medium security facility in Georgia where, after spending the first two months in solitary confinement and gets out into the general population, he learns from all the other prisoners that they never put misdemeanor defendants in that prison.

00:37:21.960 All of the other guys were – actually, they distrusted him.

00:37:23.960 They thought he was some sort of plant inside the prison.

00:37:26.220 They're like, people don't come here for misdemeanors.

00:37:28.520 This is what we do for a living.

00:37:29.700 We're pros.

00:37:30.280 We go to prison – we commit crimes and go to prison for a living.

00:37:33.180 You're not supposed to be here.

00:37:34.300 He goes, well, you are if you're a J6 defendant. 1.00

00:37:38.100 So mentally, how are you?

00:37:43.420 I have my moments.

00:37:45.920 I'm okay.

00:37:48.100 I've had over two years to prepare for this.

00:37:51.920 I've game-planned it all out in my head.

00:37:53.760 I'm not going to sleep tonight.

00:37:56.580 I'm not even going to try.

00:37:58.660 It is my way anyway.

00:38:01.380 And so I'm just going to prepare, pray, and then I'm going to put on my suit and tie.

00:38:08.540 Good for you.

00:38:09.660 And walk in with my head up.

00:38:12.520 Good for you.

00:38:13.640 Good for you.

00:38:15.240 More in just a minute with Steve Baker.

00:38:17.360 He's an investigative journalist, a blaze media correspondent.

00:38:22.020 He has been – he's the guy who worked with Congress to expose the video that was being held back.

00:38:33.440 And for this, he is being arrested and arraigned tomorrow in what city?

00:38:43.740 Here in Dallas.

00:38:44.500 Here in Dallas.

00:38:45.000 Will it happen?

00:38:45.820 Will the trial happen here in Texas?

00:38:47.640 No.

00:38:48.680 We will certainly be filing a motion for change of venue out of D.C., but none of those have been granted yet on J6 cases.

00:38:56.560 Because they know they can't win anyplace else.

00:38:59.280 Na na na na naa…

The Glenn Beck Program - February 29, 2024

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