Best of The Program ｜ Guests： David Reaboi, Jeremy Story, & Grace Smith ｜ 10⧸14⧸21
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Summary
In this episode of the podcast, we talk about what's happening in our schools and why we need to do something about it. We have a special guest on the show, Grace Smith, who talks about her experience with wearing a mask in school and how it affected her life.
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Wow, what a podcast today where we were really looking into what's happening in our schools.
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We we give you some more details on what was happening in Loudoun County. The update on that
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with the father who was just trying to protect his daughter from the scoundrels that really I
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think these people should be in jail in Loudoun County that were keeping information from the
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parents and making this father out to be a terrorist only to see the guy, the kid, apparently
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rape and abuse a second girl. We talk about that. Also, Dave Raboy, Sanjay Gupta on Joe Rogan and so
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Make sure you go back and watch my Wednesday night special from last night. It was on a national
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divorce and I hope I hope that doesn't happen, but I think it's a good case that we cannot go back to
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where we were because we disagree on too many fundamental things. And the thing that you can
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do is strengthen your state, especially if you're in a red state. You've got to strengthen your state
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and red states need to start to stand together and draw the line on the Constitution. There is an
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amazing story that's been going on in Wyoming and I have family in Wyoming. When did Wyoming become
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a wuss of a state? When did Wyoming and Laramie, Wyoming, a town that is of 30,000 people,
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it's a college town, when did they start handcuffing students because they wouldn't wear a mask?
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I believe that's new. I would say though, I don't know that we blame the entire state of Wyoming for
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this, right? This is... No, but... Because they don't have a mask mandate in the state of Wyoming.
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Not at all. I was just at a wedding last summer, they didn't have one.
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We just didn't care. Right. I mean, that's also what 90% of these mask mandates mean at this point
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is that people just don't pay attention to them. But I mean, I don't know that the state of Wyoming
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in its entirety, I don't know that it's to blame for this, but this, certainly this town in this
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slash school district, I mean, this seems completely nuts.
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Okay, I want to introduce you to Grace Smith, and I believe her father is on the phone as well,
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Mr. Smith, who should go to Washington. Grace? Grace, are you there?
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Hi, how are you? Tell the audience what happened to you in school.
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Yeah, I've been protesting the mask since the beginning of the school year because our school
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district set up a mandate. I was suspended three times with a two-day out-of-school suspension each.
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I was issued two $500 trespassing citations, so I now owe $1,000 in trespassing citations for not
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leaving after being suspended. And then I was arrested after the school was put on lockdown for
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an hour and a half after I was suspended because they refused to let me back into class.
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And the police came, they actually handcuffed you. How long were you in jail? Did they actually book you?
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No, well, they took me straight to the jail, and I didn't ever want to sell. I actually just sat in
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the lobby, and then they took my handcuffs off and took me into a back room that looked like an office.
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I was in there for maybe 30 minutes. They just asked me simple paperwork questions like medical
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history, first, no, last name, things like that. And then they released me right out the front door
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to my dad. No bond, no bail. And I never went into jail, so.
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Okay. Dad is on the phone. I'm sorry, I don't know your first name, Mr. Smith.
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Andy. Andy, okay. Andy, first of all, good for you. Sounds like you really raised a good citizen
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here. Yeah, she's really amazing. So, was this her idea?
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Yeah, so Grace came to us at the beginning of the year. She informed us that she did not want to wear
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a mask, and her mother and I told her that that was fine, that we would support that decision. But
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if we looked into the legality of their policy, and we found the policy to have legal standing,
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then she would have to make a decision to either wear the mask and go to school or drop out and do
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homeschooling. And so, what we found was quite the contrary. We believe that the Wyoming State
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Constitution affords us the right as parents and legal guardians of Grace to make her health care
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decisions. And so, we began challenging their authority. And as a result, this is where we
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ended up. So, Grace ended up being targeted. I think we were just asking the right questions,
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I guess. So, they kind of came after her first. So, it's important for people to know that on the
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day of her arrest, Grace believes about at least a third, if not a half of the student body was not
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in masks. Holy cow. So, what does that mean? Well, it means they lost control. So, Grace, her silent
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protest of not wearing a mask empowered other kids to make the same decision. And they had a lot of
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empty threats. They were going to do this, do that, start suspending kids. But they hadn't actually
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started to act. And they waited until they got an official statement from the governor. So, Governor
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Gordon came out with a statement of support to the school boards and the superintendents and the
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counties that were making the mask policies. And as soon as they had that letter of support,
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then they began to act and started to suspend a few children. So, as far as we know, only four kids
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total had been suspended, even though countless kids have been not wearing masks.
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And so, they've slapped the town into submission.
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Yes. It's pretty wild. You know, these parents are not given the choice. And they're using the
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guise of the COVID-19 Delta variant situation and the quarantine recommendations from the CDC as their
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reasoning. So, what's happening is kids are getting contact traced in the classroom. If one
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kid pops positive and then they're sending, you know, hundreds of kids home at a time for 14 days
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at a time. So, we're back to, we're back to quarantining the healthy. So, and the flu is more
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dangerous. The flu is more dangerous to teenagers and kids than coronavirus.
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Yes, that's correct. And I do want to, you know, be clear that we did not approach this from the
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coronavirus standpoint. We didn't argue the efficacy of the mask or anything like that. We went
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about this from a civil rights aspect. Good for you. And challenged their actual authority to the
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matter because that's just what we felt was more important because we saw that, no, there's, you're
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not going to win the argument on the COVID stuff with these people. So.
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Well, you would if you listen to science, but nobody's listening to science anymore.
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Um, so, what is next, Grace? I mean, is this over? Do you, um, do you, do you think anyone's
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going to stand up? Is this just the beginning? What, what, what's next?
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Well, uh, last night at the board meeting, I withdrawed from the school. Um, and so I'm going
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to start a homeschool program, uh, because it's not necessarily safe for me to go back because we've
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had personal threats to our family and I've been bullied. And, uh, there was a shooting
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Wait, wait, wait, hang on just a second. Dad, how long have you lived in Wyoming?
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Uh, it's, it's really sad and it's happening everywhere. Uh, and the simple answer is
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indoctrination. And, uh, we live in a, we live in a university town. It's a state university.
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It's the only one in Wyoming. Um, and, uh, it's one of only two counties in the state that's blue.
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Um, and that's driven by the university. So it's just another example of how the universities are
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Gosh, shut those places down. They are just poison, poison for our Republic.
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Um, all right. So you had to withdraw, uh, and you did that, you know, not in person at the school
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Uh, well, it was just doing open comment. So there wasn't a response, but, um, I was the last to speak
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of 15 people. And I think that it was definitely a very impactful thing to end with the public
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comment with. Um, and I think that it hopefully put things in perspective for all the board members,
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um, to see that they really messed up. Um, but since that, I'm going to, uh, continue to fight this
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legally. Uh, we're filing lawsuits and, uh, we're, we're working on how to fight this legally. So, uh,
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I'm going to devote most of my time to that from now on.
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Grace, I would love to invite you. There's, it's a, it's a tough, rigorous, uh, process that people
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have to go to go through to get to our, uh, our classes here, uh, on leadership, uh, that we do at
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the Mercury studios and Mercury one, um, American journey center. But, uh, I'll put you at the front
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of the line. If you would like to come down at, uh, for one of these training sessions, you are a leader
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of the future and we'd sure like to, to help arm you with the truth, um, about our history and
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everything else. So you're welcome at any time. If you want to, if you want to take me up on that.
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Um, I understand that you guys were, I mean, what do you do for a living?
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Uh, we own a, uh, well, I mean, we trying to keep, keep the business separate. So, okay. Okay. It's just,
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I mean, uh, but, um, I understand that, uh, you know, you're going to have all kinds of costs,
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uh, involved in, uh, in legal funds, et cetera, et cetera. And, um, uh, you tried to go to go fund me
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and go fund me shut you down. Uh, yeah, it was interesting. I never did get a response from
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GoFundMe to know the official reason. Um, but they, they put a hold on all the funds, the ability
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to withdraw the money. And they did that. They needed to get some clarification on what the money
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would be used for. So, um, so I reached out to them and they would not respond. And then, um,
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got in touch with a couple of people that have had experience in the matter and basically informed
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me that they, that this is kind of their precursor for their censorship. So they were most likely going
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to shut the, uh, the fund down. So we, we, we kind of got ahead of the curve there, opened up a, um,
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an account with give, send, go. Um, I've never heard of that. It's a Christian group, right?
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Christian group. And I got to tell you, they've been incredible. We actually,
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um, they had a question about our account and instead of shutting us down, they called,
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I got a phone call from the CEO who, it's crazy. Yeah. You got to ask for some clarification
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and got it back on and is offering his full support to us. Yeah. It's crazy when you just
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reach out to people, you don't have to shut them down. Uh, but we've seen that with GoFundMe. I,
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we'll start using give, send, go as well. So you go to give, send, go.com. And what do you look for
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to be able to donate? Grace, do you want to, Grace, why don't you tell them?
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Yeah. Uh, you look for stand with grace. Okay. And what is the money going to be used for?
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Um, it's going to be used for, uh, not only our legal fees, but legal fees of any other kid in the
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state and possibly the nation that wants to continue to fight this legally. Um, and the more money we get,
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the more kids we can help. That is fantastic. That is fantastic. Grace, um, good for you for
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leading your generation and standing up. You will be remembered. Um, uh, and you will be when you're
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90, you will be able to say when the world went crazy, this is what me and my family did. And,
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uh, I think that's fantastic. Thanks, Grace. Yeah. Thank you. Let us know if we can help again,
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stand with grace. Uh, and you can, uh, you can donate now at, I want to make sure I have this
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right. Is it give? What was it? Stu? Uh, give, send, go. Yes. Give, send, go.com slash stand.
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Number four, grace. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Um, I want to introduce you to somebody who is the president of campus renewal, a national nonprofit.
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Uh, he is a, he's also the state chaplain for the Republican party in Texas. He is on America's
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national prayer committee, the national day of prayer, the executive board of intercessors for
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America, the collegiate day of prayer, and also on the parents advisory board for King's college,
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New York city. Um, I met him in our hallway, um, just a couple of days ago. He has been painted
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as a domestic terrorist because of what happened at a school board. Um, I want to bring him in now
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and he can tell the story. We have about nine minutes and I know this a very complex story,
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Jeremy, but, um, you tell me where we, where we start. Yeah, we start with, uh, just this district
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hiring our current superintendent back in June, uh, violating the open meetings act. They, it appears
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to all of us through a variety of means, which we don't have in nine minutes to tell that they
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basically coordinated the hire behind the scenes without the full knowledge of the board of the
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public, only a subset of the board. Okay. And this guy, I got involved. This guy is, um, you say
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you were just asking and others were asking just for a few more days to vet this guy, because there
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were things that were, I mean, he arrested a grandmother, if I'm not mistaken, uh, in his,
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in his earlier school board, uh, uh, role in another district, correct? Yeah. In another district,
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there had been evidence surfaced in a video evidence that he had used a, not so much arrest,
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but he'd used a restraining order, uh, uh, against her to keep her from being able to come
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onto campus to be able to speak at school board meetings. And he enforced it with the district
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police of Donna ISD. And so, uh, we'd seen there was potentially a history like that. And we wanted
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the board to further vet him, but instead of them further vetting him five out of the seven, two did
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not to stood with the public, but five said, no, we don't even want to vet him. We're going to hire him
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right now. And then we watched him be pulled out of a back room. And that same meeting, they were
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supposedly voting on his hire and said, Oh, he's with us. He's traveled for six hours to be here.
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At that point, uh, I began to realize that they had coordinated this ahead of time. Uh, and that's
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why they were doing this. Uh, and, and we've seen further evidence since then that that seems to be
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the case. Um, and so, because they had leveraged district resources and everything and already had
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him in the room, uh, while they were literally debating about hiring him. Okay. So this is a,
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this is a school district that is outside of Austin. And, uh, I mean, Texas is a firewall,
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uh, state, uh, and you have now been arrested. Um, and you're now called a terrorist. You were
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arrested at a school board meeting and tell me the story here. What happened? Uh, I was arrested for
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basically speaking publicly during my pop comments period. I was called up to the stand to sort of
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testify in front of the board by the board president. Before I got to the stand, she interrupted
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me and told me that I could not speak because she felt I was going to speak on something that was
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non-germane, but I had not said a word yet, but she already knew that she didn't want me to speak
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because I had written them letters, uh, calling them out because I had found out that the
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superintendent had a protective order against him for assault and that there was allegations against
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him, uh, that he had, and I'd looked at all the evidence and seen text messages and a variety of
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other things that he had, uh, according to these allegations assaulted, uh, shortly after he was
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hired, his girlfriend, uh, it was his mistress as well. And that, that from that situation,
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the reason why he assaulted her was because he, uh, she had told him that he was pregnant,
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uh, that she was pregnant. He had asked her to get an abortion. She had said no repeatedly.
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So, uh, she, he threatened, uh, this woman, uh, with violence and saying that he was going to
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come take care of the kid if she wouldn't, meaning he was willing to threaten his own child with
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violence. And then she went to the school board asking for help, uh, because he had threatened
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to use a few of the school board members against her. He had said that some of them were in his
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back pocket basically, and that they would support him. And so she decided she would try to appeal to
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the rest. And basically only two, the same two that had voted for further vetting are the only ones
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that tried to help. The other five basically turned a blind eye or discredited her. Um, and then
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a couple of them, uh, we know that, that at least one, uh, it looks like potentially others.
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It, the evidence seems to show to us and our opinion and what we can see and what the victim
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is alleging, um, is that they then texted the superintendent and then, uh, you know,
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somehow communicated with him. And then he then went to her house and assaulted her and made good
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on his promise, uh, which is what resulted in the protective order that's still, uh, been pending
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against him. And then her home was burglarized. Nothing was taken except her laptop and her
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personal diary, which is weird. Yes. And then what happened was I went to go to the board after
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trying to deal with it, uh, via email and, and, and smaller means just talking to the board and
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finding that five of them were keeping it off the agenda. They were, they were denying there was any
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issue. Basically they said it wasn't their responsibility to take care of, um, all these sorts of things.
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So I went to the board meeting to try to talk about it. And when I began to speak, the board
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president cut me off and told me not to, uh, told me that basically she didn't think I could. I said,
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I'll show you how it's germane to the topic. Let me play that. Let me, let me play the audio. Here
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you are here. Our next speaker then is Jeremy story. Mr. Story, you did write that you felt like you
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could speak about something other than D one or D two. I would like to remind you, this is a special
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so-called meeting. It is not a regular board meeting. We are only taking comments on these
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two items. And I will show you how, what I'm about to comment on is related to that.
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Mr. Story, are you able to demonstrate that? Yes, I will. No, I do not want you to demonstrate.
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So you're not willing for me to demonstrate Mrs. Weir. I am asking. I can show you how your
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resolution that you're debating today has absolute humanity to what I'm going to speak on. Are you
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saying you don't want to hear me? The resolution. Are you saying you don't want to hear me? No,
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sir. I'm absolutely willing to hear you on D one. Today I speak on the rule of law. I don't envy your
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choice today. I trust that most people value each other, even though they're on different sides of
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the issue. I also understand the seriousness of the COVID epidemic. I understand the rule of law.
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Yet several members of this board and superintendent have an utter. Okay. So now they drag you out. Um,
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and D are you charged with anything here? Uh, no, I'm not. Uh, I, I begin speaking. She lets me speak
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for about a minute. And then I get to the point out of the words, I think protective order. And she
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just cuts me off. She, I mean, unless she's clairvoyant, I don't know how she even knew.
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Obviously she had premeditated this. Uh, she then waved her hand, the superintendent and said,
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banged her gavel, yelled, said, Hey, uh, told the police to come get me. The superintendent nodded his head.
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And then two police officers who are district police officers, not city police officers.
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They're basically ultimately report to the superintendent, grab me by each arm, drag me
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out of the room, drag me down the hallway, drag me across the cafeteria and pushed me out the front
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door. They did not arrest me at that time. 30 days later or so, all of a sudden they show up at my
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house, uh, after getting a warrant that same day, 30 days later. Why, why did that happen?
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They get a warrant around. Why the 30 day delay?
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Uh, I believe that they were targeting me. They also simultaneously went to another gentleman's
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house. His name is Dustin Clark. He is a veteran. He's an army captain, a great guy. He's a businessman.
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And they had, uh, arrested him at the same exact time in sort of a clandestine operation where they
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were at his house and my house at the same time arresting us. Uh, they had gotten a warrant that
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very day. Uh, they had then been able to mobilize all these people within a matter of hours and showed
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up at our houses. What were you charged with? Nothing. What were you charged with? I was charged
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with disorderly conduct with intent to disrupt a meeting. Okay. And is this the thing that happened
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in September? That's correct. Okay. Because basically speaking during the public comments
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period. All right. So there was public comments. This is a later, uh, event, uh, 350, uh, 375 person
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lecture hall. Um, they took the seats out. There were only 18 seats. Uh, uh, parents who brought
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their own chairs were threatened. 50 students across the hall were not required to space. Uh,
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and the policy isn't enforced anywhere else in the district. So you and other parents were kept out of
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the school board. We have video of this. If you will explain to us what is, what is happening? What did
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they do? Yeah, sure. 30, about 30 days later, they have another board meeting, except this time they
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had stationed police officers outside the front doors of the board meeting. And we're telling
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parents that unless you could fit in one of those 18 chairs, they had taken all the chairs out of a
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375 person auditorium, except for about 18. It said, unless you could sit in one of those that you
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were not allowed to be in the room. Even other parents had brought their own chairs and were trying
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to obey the distancing rule, which was easy to do in such a large room. And they were saying things
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like the board president was saying things like, well, if you're not in one of these government
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approved chairs, basically, you can't be in here and we'll kick you out. And they'd put police
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officers at the front doors, preventing people from walking in to that second meeting. There was
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a month later. And then we, we were arrested even a few days after that. I was particularly arrested
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a day after I filed, uh, the day after the district received my legal grievance, uh, the next day,
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uh, they, they came and arrested us and they put us in jail overnight. They arrested us at about
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five o'clock with intent, I believe, and Dustin believes as well. And so do many, many other
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people, including our lawyer to hold us overnight because there was no magistrate there. And that
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way they could hold us overnight. The community rallied, uh, and has worked to raise money and
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overnight, they basically held a vigil outside the, uh, jail cell demanding that we would be released,
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uh, so that we could get a magistrate there. But basically they coordinated the school district
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coordinated with the sheriff who then the sheriff made a special exception for Dustin and I
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that was against their normal booking policy because they weren't taking people of our level
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of offense. They're only taking violent criminals and drunk drivers and things like that. And, uh,
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they made a special exception for us to not only get a warrant, not only run within hours to get to
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both of our houses, but they made a special booking exception to be able to put us in jail that night.
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They were turning people away for similar level offenses the same night. We were treated very
00:24:38.500
specially in a not so special good way because we were being targeted for speaking out about
00:24:44.380
malfeasance of our school board, illegal malfeasance where, where our, our, um, superintendent
00:24:49.520
has a protective order against him. He has, he has, he's accused of committing assault. Some of our
00:24:55.200
board members seem to have been at least involved in informing him about before the victim became a
00:25:00.080
victim, right? When she was trying to go for them for help. And, uh, it also seems to us that several
00:25:05.400
of them were coordinating his hire privately behind the scenes before he was even hired.
00:25:10.000
And so these are the sorts of things we were saying, and I was not being violent. I was not
00:25:14.080
No, I see in the, in the video, it shows you trying to get past the police. And I know in the audio,
00:25:21.120
you say, what law am I violating? Why won't you let me pass? And they won't answer you. Um,
00:25:28.440
and what they were doing was passing, uh, a tax increase, uh, without the public being allowed
00:25:36.640
to be in. Is that correct? Right. It's our belief that they were, uh, you know, doing all of this
00:25:42.820
in order to minimize public input because they all have done some, some wrong things and they, I don't
00:25:48.880
think they wanted to be exposed. And we believe they were doing it to minimize public input. Uh, while
00:25:53.780
two board members also felt the same way, the same two, Daniel bone and Mary Weston who had voted
00:25:59.300
for further vetting and had been trying to get this on the agenda to speak about what the
00:26:05.420
superintendent was, uh, at least alleged to have done and very credible evidence. Uh, those same
00:26:10.380
two decided in that board meeting you're describing, um, to walk out because they felt this was a
00:26:15.240
violation of the Texas open meetings act. And they didn't want to, you know, have to deal with
00:26:19.560
going to jail or anything over. They don't want to violate the law. So they left in the middle of that
00:26:22.700
school board meeting. So if you picture the school board meeting is now 30 days later from the
00:26:26.380
original incident, they're, they've got police officers holding people outside the doors.
00:26:30.360
They have two board members that leave in the middle because they say, we're not going to have
00:26:33.040
any part of this. And then shortly right after that, they then vote, uh, to pass the tax increase
00:26:38.380
and they don't have enough votes, but they passed it anyway. They're supposed to have 60%. They didn't
00:26:42.180
have 60% of the vote, uh, of the total board and they passed the tax increase. Why? Because 3,000
00:26:47.980
students have fled our district in the last month and it's put the district in a $30 million
00:26:52.800
sudden hold. It's a surprise. So then they, in the midst of all of that, pass a tax increase.
00:26:58.140
And that's when Dustin, my friend participating in the meeting says, you can't pass a tax increase.
00:27:02.920
That's not legal in the way you did it. And they called, had, you know, the same thing called the
00:27:08.940
police and, uh, with the wave of their hand. And then the police grabbed him and dragged him out the
00:27:12.880
back door. This is a gentleman who has fought for our country. So as they are dragging him out the
00:27:17.780
back door, not before he says, you guys are communists. And that's all you see on the videos,
00:27:23.300
you know, on the news is that he said that, but you don't see anything about, and the board doesn't
00:27:27.140
talk anything about the tax increase. One other thing on that, Glenn, it gets crazier. They then
00:27:31.740
release a press release after all this. Uh, some of the board members, the district, they released a
00:27:36.400
press release that says we couldn't do business because of the disruption. So we had to adjourn the
00:27:42.040
meeting. Right. But they, they did business. They, they passed the tax increase. And then right after
00:27:47.620
they passed the tax increase, they adjourned the meeting. All right. Um, partially the reason I
00:27:51.700
believe is because I'd called the 9-1-1, I'd called 9-1-1 and the police were coming. If you want to,
00:27:55.880
uh, follow, uh, Jeremy's, uh, story, Jeremy W story, you can find him on Twitter, Jeremy W story,
00:28:03.100
uh, we'll continue to follow this story. Um, this is really important. Most people have,
00:28:09.580
I mean, have you ever heard of round rock Texas? Right. If it's happening there,
00:28:14.320
it's very likely it's happening elsewhere. I've got 10 seconds, Jeremy, go ahead.
00:28:19.000
Okay. We need to raise money for our legal defense and to make sure that this does not
00:28:23.800
happen on other school boards across the country. Like we're seeing with the national stuff with
00:28:27.640
Biden and the AG. So how can people help you and your listeners to rise, rise for students.org
00:28:33.240
rise for students.org. And that will take you straight to a page where you can donate to our
00:28:36.720
legal fund, which we'll use a hundred percent to make sure that this stops in this district and that
00:28:41.860
we can set a precedent for it not to ever happen again. Uh, and other districts where police forces
00:28:46.540
used against citizens, just simply trying to speak out again. Uh, thank you very much, Jeremy. I
00:28:52.680
appreciate it. Um, uh, we will follow, uh, this story. The best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:29:11.860
David Roy is with us. He is a senior fellow at the Claremont Institute. He was with me last night
00:29:19.620
on a, uh, on an hour long program I did on blaze TV. Is it time for a national divorce? Um,
00:29:26.740
I think David would agree. This is not in our best interest. This is not what we would, uh, hope
00:29:34.560
for our nation. We would want for our nation, but you made a great case yesterday, David, that, um,
00:29:41.680
it's coming one way or another. It's the, the time to face reality that we live in a different kind
00:29:49.340
of nation is right now. Yeah, I, uh, I, I, I very much agree. Um, when I, when I talk about national
00:29:57.720
divorce and I've written a piece, um, about it, a couple things at, uh, my sub stack at late Republic
00:30:04.300
nonsense, um, I'm using it as a re kind of a rhetorical device. I'm not saying, Hey, let's do
00:30:11.860
this tomorrow because this is great. I'm saying it's, it's a rhetorical device. It gets us to think
00:30:18.220
and talk about things that, um, you know, that we're not really apt to talk about unless we understand
00:30:25.760
the stakes. And, uh, so tell me this, tell me the stakes. What, what is, what is, what's happening?
00:30:32.780
Where are we headed? So, I mean, I think where we're headed is a kind of dystopia. You know, it's,
00:30:39.440
it's a kind of centrally managed dystopia of, you know, of a variety of different flavors. So you've got
00:30:46.020
the, the great reset flavor. Um, you've got the, um, the critical race theory flavor. Um, and you
00:30:55.620
have all these different, uh, types of inputs, but what do they all have in common? What they
00:30:59.480
all have in common is they oppose the founding. Um, they oppose key bedrock principles like
00:31:06.460
bill of rights, bill of rights and, and, and equal justice under the law. And, you know,
00:31:11.300
frankly, you know, the reality of biology and, and, and, and all these things, right. Um,
00:31:17.200
our ability to express ourselves, uh, you know, uh, outside the frame of, you know, what they tell
00:31:25.980
us we can say. Right. Freely and openly. Right. Which is like, frankly, it's kind of what you and
00:31:32.520
I grew up with. It's not a radical departure. You know, the left tries to make it as if it's this
00:31:38.700
scary, terrible thing that we want. We're like, no, I think, you know, I'm pretty cool with the
00:31:42.660
eighties. I'm pretty cool with the nineties too. Yeah. You know, to be, to be honest with you.
00:31:46.980
Yeah. Um, and you know, of course, once nine 11 started, we have a whole different, um, you know,
00:31:53.860
a whole different country rolling down and a whole different country. Yeah. Um, all right. So, um,
00:31:59.920
I have been shocked at how many people you, you, you just Google national divorce, uh, or anything
00:32:07.260
like that. And people on both sides. I mean, I gave the stats last night. I think it's 45% of the
00:32:13.080
people who voted for Biden want a national divorce and 55% that voted for Trump want a national divorce.
00:32:20.540
And it's because there's no way back to each other. If, if I believe in the bill of rights,
00:32:26.740
then I can't go with you. If you know, you want to shut down anybody who thinks differently than you.
00:32:36.540
Right. Um, years ago, I read Alan Bloom's closing of the American mind, which is book that changed my
00:32:42.900
life. And in it, one of the great points he makes is that the things that we perceive in this culture
00:32:51.940
to be what makes us different, uh, you know, food and how people dress and the things they read and
00:33:00.000
the music they listen to all this is nonsense and it's all surface, you know, doesn't matter.
00:33:07.480
It doesn't matter in the end. Yeah. The important things are the things that we're talking about.
00:33:11.740
The things, um, upon which we really, you know, vehemently disagree. So, um, and I mean,
00:33:20.040
these are the important, these were the important things for Socrates. These were the important things
00:33:26.580
for, you know, um, for, for Machiavelli and Rousseau and, and, and Hobbes. And these are
00:33:32.220
the things that, that political philosophers, you know, um, since the beginning have been wrestling
00:33:38.540
with. Right. So they're not inconsequential. It's not, uh, it's, it's a really big deal.
00:33:44.260
So you were saying last night that one of the things that we, we have to do is we have to start
00:33:51.920
waking up to a, um, a, a two rail society, uh, that there are those who are going to go this way
00:34:01.560
and then those that want to go the other way. But that is a monstrous task to accomplish quickly.
00:34:08.720
I mean, because you need pretty much everything. I mean, Texas is the only one that has its,
00:34:14.740
its, its power grid and it is disconnected from the rest of the country. Texas is the only one
00:34:21.440
that has all of their gold in place. Um, but you need new banking systems because, you know,
00:34:28.320
I say this and I'm not sure people really understand it's going to be harder and harder
00:34:32.600
for you to get a loan. Can you explain that? Do you agree with it? Um, I mean, I'm not,
00:34:38.720
I'm not an expert in, in, uh, in, in the loan industry. That's right. But I mean, you know,
00:34:43.720
that because of ESG and some of these other things, like there's a story today that, um, the, um,
00:34:51.700
the green energy companies can't get a loan, right? They can't get financing. No one will give them
00:34:57.160
financing. So if you are one of these companies or people that are on the out, right, they're going
00:35:04.300
to crush you. They'll crush you. Yeah. They will crush you. I call it an intellectual,
00:35:08.720
uh, or an ideological cartel. So if the state, you know, the state really doesn't have to do
00:35:14.500
anything. Right. But the, you know, private companies, uh, which comprise an ideological
00:35:21.540
cartel, they all think the same way. Right. They all, you know, they all are all rent seeking,
00:35:27.200
incurring favor from the government, though it's kind of one step removed. You know, they'll just be
00:35:32.500
the enforcers. I mean, we saw this with parlor, which was the best example. We're seeing with the
00:35:37.060
vaccine mandates, right? With the Southwest. Right. There's no, there's no mandate. It's not
00:35:41.320
written. It's not done. And yet they're all doing it. Right. They're leaping to do it. They cannot
00:35:47.120
wait to do it because, you know, a combination of they believe in it and they're trying to, uh,
00:35:52.880
curry favor with the government. So what should people be doing right now? How should we be thinking?
00:35:57.340
I would say that everybody who runs a business in America, small or large, you could have a pizza
00:36:04.640
shop or a bakery or, you know, I mean something, or you could have a multi billion dollar corporation
00:36:11.760
figure out how to put it in service of, um, of let's say red America, figure out how to say,
00:36:19.760
I'm going to create a product that appeals to, um, a certain segment and do it explicitly. The left
00:36:25.140
does this explicitly. They tell you when you buy sneakers, when you buy any other products
00:36:29.760
that they, what they're, the subliminal message with Colin Kaepernick that they're Nike is sending
00:36:35.200
is these shoes are not for you. Red, you know, red America. Right. So we do the same. We need
00:36:41.680
to, we need to, doesn't that widen the divide? I don't think so. I don't, I mean, I don't think
00:36:49.820
so. I don't think really anything that we do necessarily can widen like that, that can widen
00:36:56.160
the divide because what we need at the end of the day is self-sufficiency. We need to
00:37:00.300
be able to say, okay. Um, you know, okay. Uh, uh, health insurance company that, um, you
00:37:08.840
know, won't cover, um, you know, basic, whatever transplant, won't cover your transplant, but
00:37:16.200
will, will, you know, cover any type of trans or abortion or whatever. Okay. Let's start
00:37:22.800
a company that, you know, that, um, is, is more reasonable to, or amenable to, uh, red
00:37:29.320
America. So I don't know why this doesn't happen, um, more often because, um, we've obviously
00:37:35.940
shown that you can get, you can get out of that and you can start your own thing. And if
00:37:43.240
you are appealing to, you know, I'd love to have everybody listen, but we're clearly
00:37:48.020
for these principles and you can make money there. And there's a ton of people that are
00:37:55.680
craving product. The problem is, is that for instance, banking, I mean, the federal regulation
00:38:03.100
of banking is crazy for us, the internet, social media, you're going up against Google to make
00:38:09.920
anything that is, is separate apart and good his years in development.
00:38:19.740
Yeah. It's years. It's going to be very difficult, but this is why we need, um, really good red
00:38:26.180
state governors, um, that, uh, that, that can help out with this. And we need more people
00:38:33.200
who are, you know, living in New York and New Jersey and California who are, um, you know,
00:38:38.700
who are conservative to move to Texas, bring their companies and set things up more money,
00:38:43.900
more, um, you know, more entrepreneurship, more, uh, you know, entrepreneurship in the
00:38:49.640
service of these principles. I mean, let's get real for, for, for decades. We thought,
00:38:54.400
you know what, we're, we're, you know, um, we're all the board of directors is all personally
00:38:59.200
conservative, but we're operating as if we're agnostic to what's happening in America.
00:39:04.500
Right. That can't fly anymore. And, um, you know, and, and I think people are starting
00:39:14.000
I just heard from a friend this morning who said he is seeing so many people who are conservative
00:39:19.140
walking away and just going, it's time for me to take care of my family, uh, and just buckle up for
00:39:27.660
what's coming. And I just don't think there's a win in the end for you and your family. If you,
00:39:34.560
I mean, because if you're so atomized, yeah, if you're, if you're all by yourself, um, and you
00:39:42.640
think you're just going to be able to be quiet and survive. Remember the great resets plan is that
00:39:49.100
you will own nothing by 2030. That's quite an amazing statement to make. I mean, think of how,
00:39:58.300
how do you get a country that is so focused on ownership of things to have the population own
00:40:06.140
nothing in eight years? You're, you're not going to be left alone. You're not going to,
00:40:12.340
there's no place to hide here. And the, the, the idea that we strengthen and we gather together
00:40:21.140
in these red States and we hold our politicians locally and at the state level responsible,
00:40:28.460
we hold their feet to the fire. I mean, I was just, we just had a girl on that was arrested at a high
00:40:34.080
school, uh, in, in Laramie, Wyoming for not wearing a mask, Laramie, Wyoming. When you have
00:40:43.360
that happening in a, in a, just an absolute red state like Wyoming, you got problems.
00:40:51.880
It means that people are sleeping on the job. It means the people in Wyoming said, you know what?
00:40:57.920
Things are pretty cool. We don't have to watch the school board. We don't have to keep our eyes on,
00:41:02.820
on, on these things. And they're going to start having to do so. You know, I mean,
00:41:07.860
the other thing we've been through, what, 20 years now of at least 10 of this concept of digital
00:41:15.100
networks, connecting people. I think phase two of where we have to go is to create local communities
00:41:22.900
where we know one another, we live proximate to one another. We have, you know, we see each other
00:41:28.560
often and we have real communities again. Dave Reboi. He is, uh, you can find him at
00:41:33.200
Dave Reboi.substack.com. Um, he writes for American greatness and, uh, he's part of the, uh, Claremont
00:41:41.380
Institute. Um, let's talk a little bit about moving if you're in a blue state. Um, cause I, I,
00:41:49.860
I think that if you are, if you are the, uh, the kangaroo in the, the dog kennel, you are in deep
00:41:59.360
trouble. It's not fun. Yeah. And it's not only not fun, but I, you're, you know, you have to go to
00:42:06.580
where you are going to be around like-minded people who will stand. Otherwise you're alone. Yeah. I have
00:42:14.460
multiple friends who lived or live in blue cities, large blue cities who are, you know, of the
00:42:22.360
activist type and, you know, you may know them and they've been harassed at home letters and, and,
00:42:31.900
you know, signs posted around their house. Right. I mean, this is not, you know, we're not talking
00:42:37.200
about, you know, multi-billion dollar or, you know, multi-millionaire, um, uh, you know, media
00:42:43.140
moguls, moguls who can afford security and things like that. Right. I mean, these are just people.
00:42:49.200
And, um, so we see that things could go terribly wrong very quickly. Well, I mean, I hate to be,
00:42:57.400
you know, uh, alarmist here, but you know, some of these people actually do talk about purges and
00:43:05.420
some of their ideology goes right to a purge. Uh, and you don't want to be around that. You don't
00:43:11.480
want to be around that, but on the bright side, we can help each other. I mean, I, I, I have a home
00:43:18.760
in a, uh, a town of about 500 people. We know everybody, uh, everybody knows us. We are all
00:43:26.600
kind of relatively like-minded. Um, they're already talking about, you know, if more people come to our
00:43:33.680
area, how can we help them? You know, we, they kind of look out for each other. That's really
00:43:39.940
critical in the world that's coming. Yeah, I, I agree. Uh, I think we shouldn't forget about cities
00:43:47.140
though as well. I mean, cities in red States used to be quite conservative at one time. I mean,
00:43:55.140
we had that, this is, you know, um, insane progressive leftist, uh, blue cities are not,
00:44:02.420
I mean, that's, that's not necessarily been the norm in American history.
00:44:05.300
Where do you find one now? Well, you have to build one. Yeah. Okay. I was going to say,
00:44:09.860
cause they're gone. They're not, you have to, you have to go, you have to, um, you have to,
00:44:15.220
you know, you have to build one. I'm not saying from scratch, but from, uh, from smaller places
00:44:20.200
and make sure that you have these, these, uh, these things in mind. Um, make sure that,
00:44:25.500
you know, it's explicit, you know, you're, you're, you're creating a community. And if somebody is,
00:44:31.140
you know, from the left who wants to live there, you know, peacefully fine, but they're not going
00:44:36.260
to want to. Right. You just, it makes it about, I mean, everybody has a flag in their front yard.
00:44:42.940
They're not going to want to, you don't have to say anything. Right. I mean, you know, when my,
00:44:47.200
my buddy just bought a house, he was like, Oh my God, there are no BLM signs anywhere. This is my
00:44:52.160
neighborhood. Isn't that crazy? And these are the, these are the, um, you know, these are the,
00:44:57.800
the, uh, like the, the, the, the signs, these are the, you know, this is the symbology,
00:45:02.060
right. Um, of, of our time. And, and all of these things point to the same thing at the end of the
00:45:07.180
day. There's a couple of stories that I want you to read from Dave. Uh, one is national divorce is
00:45:13.040
expensive, but it is worth every penny. Uh, and, uh, stop yelling. Stop. You can find them at,
00:45:21.600
uh, Dave or boy.com. That's R E A B O I.com. Keep writing. Keep speaking out, my friend.
00:45:30.360
Thank you. You're an important voice. I appreciate it. Really appreciate it.