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00:00:00.000 welcome to the podcast uh part of the blaze media gigantic empire

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00:00:30.360 in terror and suddenly silenced yeah we're kind of the reverse of that it's a bunch of silenced

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00:01:00.620 democratic party become uh we look at him just through the eyes of one day also david steinberg

00:01:08.040 he has done some investigation that is you need to be aware of there's something building on this

00:01:14.660 ilana mar uh ilana mar uh what is what is her true story that is fascinating also arthur herman joins us

00:01:25.300 uh about the stem crisis that we have here in america no one is teaching no one is excited about

00:01:32.140 stem we've talked deep about quantum mechanics and and and quantum computing and it's it's no this is a

00:01:39.940 promotional segment right we're supposed to be probably hey we talked to sam smith or we talked

00:01:44.760 about him talked about him uh about his his change now to non-binary and what bullcrap that is 0.88

00:01:50.840 we tried to find a way to to unite and i think we actually can unite we're just using different

00:01:57.160 language and an update on how beto o'rourke handles human feces you know this is a promotional oh crap

00:02:03.420 all on today's podcast stew just told a just a horrible story about a guy who lost his house he

00:02:12.040 was an immigrant stew yes he came here i think gosh in the 90s 90s and make made a life for himself

00:02:20.740 and got married and got a house and everything else then his wife dies of cancer he loses his job

00:02:27.220 he's having to you know turn off all the lights so he doesn't use electricity because he can't find

00:02:32.240 another job in the end that somebody steals his home with with home title fraud it's just a horrible

00:02:39.020 story right and and you know once that happens your life gets much much worse oh my gosh because

00:02:45.020 now you got to deal with trying to dig yourself out i'd love to talk to this guy yeah see if we get

00:02:49.320 a hold of him i'd love to talk to this guy uh anyway home title lock that's not going to happen if

00:02:54.220 if you have home title lock they are the only ones that are watching over your title if somebody tries

00:02:59.920 to imagine it wouldn't be such a tragic story uh if he had home title lock and they would have said

00:03:06.300 hey somebody's trying to steal your home and they would have caught him uh it's home title lock sign

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00:03:21.860 so let's talk a little bit about yeah before we should we should probably get to the new

00:03:26.780 production the new what the new production for the show the new production yeah just kind of set

00:03:32.780 the tone the new theme i thought we okay yeah let's roll the new theme

00:03:36.180 i mean you're trending i mean in the united states yesterday along with colonel sanders have you

00:04:02.560 ever seen us at a party together no haven't seen it have you no only when you're standing next to a

00:04:07.360 mirror somewhere somewhere in the country an old decrepit colonel sanders is is hearing today you look

00:04:15.100 just like glenn back and it's not making him happy either no it's not you know you actually were you were

00:04:21.360 trending glenn back was trending nationwide and then as an you know like if you were to take one thing and

00:04:26.520 like uh hashtag it or or make a certain point the two things trend together so it's a glenn back and

00:04:31.560 then like sub trending with glenn back was colonel sanders right and then later on in the day it

00:04:36.980 actually reversed itself it was colonel sanders was trending with the association to glenn back

00:04:42.180 and like i don't know if that means you've actually crossed the lines yeah completely all right okay

00:04:49.020 and it was it was trending because of this uh this article in newsweek magazine about uh uh how i said

00:04:56.780 that socialism means the end of the country as we know it um and if the dem or if the uh if the

00:05:04.240 don't win with donald trump it's the end of the country yeah i mean i think you've been pretty clear

00:05:11.080 on socialism over the years you've also been pretty clear that you look like colonel sanders over the

00:05:14.940 years for a long time for a long time so this is apparently new to a lot of people right and i don't

00:05:19.140 know what what is really new for anybody on that statement um is especially if you are looking at

00:05:27.300 what the democratic party is becoming i mean there i saw some stories today glenn back says that uh

00:05:36.660 socialists anarchists and islamicists will band together and work against uh the country to try to 0.89

00:05:44.820 collapse it yeah i've been saying that for 12 years and look at it look at what's happening right now

00:05:52.820 you have the pressure from the anarchists on the street you have the pressure from the socialists

00:05:58.420 in government and you have the pressure from the islamist movement in the in the government with care 0.54

00:06:06.720 and all throughout uh the world with muslim brotherhood so yeah there's nothing new here

00:06:13.600 it just new to those who aren't paying attention and to our democratic friends not in washington but

00:06:23.320 those who live down the street are you so distracted by donald trump that you you can't see what the

00:06:33.660 democratic party has become you can't become blind to what you're actually voting for i mean this is

00:06:43.460 the to me this is the real uh issue it's what what are you turning into as you're as you're running away

00:06:52.440 from something i mean i said i said earlier this week that if donald trump and the and the gop and i don't

00:07:04.280 i don't have love for this this is not this is not the gop has been worthless forever donald trump

00:07:13.260 at least has proven that he would do the things that i never thought he would do i never let me just

00:07:20.240 give you this i never thought he would declare israel uh jerusalem the the home of israel and move the

00:07:28.200 embassy i didn't think anybody would do it but i didn't think he would do it tax cuts i thought he

00:07:35.280 would kind of do it and we kind of got what the gop was going to do which is weak the judges i didn't

00:07:41.660 think he would do this with the judges and i especially i didn't even think about what he's

00:07:45.740 doing at the federal level he's going to end up his his administration if he just serves this one

00:07:51.720 term he could end up appointing 150 federal judges which will change the balance of the courts

00:08:01.380 in the you know at the federal level i didn't think he would do that i hate his tariffs hate them

00:08:09.840 but i see the economy and the economy is chugging and if you look at where it was under obama and where

00:08:19.240 it is now it is clearly because of the things with regulation which i wasn't sure he was going

00:08:25.420 to cut i thought he might i didn't think he would get out of the paris agreement remember when i used

00:08:29.860 to say uh his daughter's not going to let him get out of the paris agreement his daughter is all

00:08:35.660 global warming there's no way no he got out of the paris accords his stance on socialism his stance on

00:08:45.440 isis his stance on abortion okay i didn't think he'd do these things so i'm willing to admit that i was

00:08:54.200 wrong about him on those things now i was not wrong about him on things like he's surrounded by really

00:09:02.520 bad people now all of those people are gone but all of those people that he had with him during the

00:09:08.400 campaign they're all the ones that he's paying the price for today they were bad people they're gone

00:09:15.420 great uh his tariffs i think are hurting the country he says he's doing it for negotiation

00:09:25.440 i'm willing to see that but when the when the negotiation is finished i'm hoping that he's

00:09:31.080 going to take these tariffs off because it will unleash another wave of power in the economy

00:09:36.900 what he's doing on 5g on huawei it's not working but that's because europe has their head up their

00:09:46.500 sand hole and uh they're not paying any don't please don't push me on that they don't they don't

00:09:54.980 they're not willing to stand against china on 5g this is the most important thing i believe 1.00

00:10:01.480 for national security since perhaps the cold war so that's what we have now maybe somebody else comes

00:10:11.420 into the running but as of today that's what we have on one side let me show you what we have

00:10:18.460 on the other side on the other side we have a group of radical socialists not people we say are

00:10:26.540 socialist and everyone's like they're not socialists you're such a racist no no we have people who are

00:10:33.620 constantly talking about collapsing the free market system we have a hundred people in congress that

00:10:42.060 have signed up including every single candidate for the democratic nomination we have them signed on

00:10:50.280 to something that calls for the radical transformation of the free market into a system that supplies social and

00:11:01.700 economic justice that's not the free market system you have the face of the free market saying free market's

00:11:10.360 not going to be around forever because it doesn't work and it's unjust you have them now talking about

00:11:15.580 changing the constitution to a charter of positive liberties they are pushing for infanticide we're

00:11:22.340 not even talking about abortion anymore we're talking about killing children at nine months old 0.95

00:11:28.880 we're talking now about packing the court getting rid of the protection of the electoral college

00:11:36.420 you have anti-semitism running amok anti-israel pro-care it's a cult that is anti-science

00:11:44.920 and pro-death

00:11:47.440 now i can say those things but i just want to recap for you i'm going to take a quick break and we're

00:11:54.560 going to come back with just the audio of what's happened in the last 24 48 hours with this group of

00:12:00.820 people you're outraged oh trump is tweeting something crazy yeah he's been tweeting stuff that's crazy

00:12:07.300 forever we got that but look at what he's doing look at what the policies are that those are the

00:12:14.560 things that will last do we have to worry about uh becoming malicious and nasty yes i think we do

00:12:21.320 the president doesn't set a good example on that but that's where the people can lead

00:12:26.460 i worry about not just maliciousness i worry about a culture of death

00:12:32.760 i worry about what happens to us when the free market system goes away you want to look like

00:12:40.880 venezuela because that's what they're promising all of the things they they said they were for for

00:12:48.440 venezuela and hugo chavez therefore today here in the united states it is not european socialism

00:12:56.320 this is democratic socialism and we are not a democratic country our founders intentionally did not

00:13:06.500 want us to be a full-fledged democracy because those never last

00:13:12.320 now let me show you what happened in the last 24 to 48 hours and you tell me

00:13:19.300 what should we be talking about all right i just want to play a couple of things now this is all this

00:13:24.240 all happened in one day so beto is on the road and beto which we'll get into here a little later on

00:13:32.880 the program he is he's frightening because he's an empty suit he does not know who he is at all

00:13:40.500 and i'll make a case on this later but he doesn't know who he is he's asking the the the people now that

00:13:47.160 are going out hey i need you to tell me who you want me to be i can i can be who you need me to be

00:13:54.640 who do you want me to be well that's not the guy you want because the president of the united states

00:14:00.760 has to know who he is and what he believes that's a leader beto has no idea who he is but he knows

00:14:12.380 the game he has to play and right now the game he has to play is i gotta be for third trimester

00:14:20.060 abortion now the number of people in the united states that are for third trimester abortion

00:14:25.540 is minuscule it's 14 okay 14 um they're also talking about after the child is born if he's got

00:14:36.860 a birth defect can we kill the child the democrats refuse to say no this is insanity now he was at a

00:14:46.680 he was at a rally and some woman said uh what do you say about third trimester abortion that when the

00:14:54.540 when the child is ready to be birthed it is nine months and uh we could do a c-section or deliver the

00:15:04.080 child and the child would be fine mom would be fine what do you say about third trimester nine 1.00

00:15:12.480 month abortions here's what he said are you for or against third trimester abortions so the question

00:15:18.940 is about abortion and reproductive rights and and my answer to you is that that should be a decision

00:15:25.400 that the woman makes uh yeah i trust her why the woman wants to kill her child it the minute that 1.00

00:15:38.180 child is born it's it's it has nothing to do with her it's a separate life i believe it's a separate

00:15:45.780 life in the womb but they're now talking about killing that child after birth this is this is a very

00:15:53.680 dangerous road so same day here's jildebrand also running for president talking about gun manufacturers

00:16:01.460 now think about how twisted you have to believe or you have to be to believe that this is actually

00:16:07.980 true here's jildebrand gun manufacturers only care about gun sales they oppose the common sense reform

00:16:14.160 that can save lives they want to oppose universal background checks because they want to sell an

00:16:19.260 assault rifle to a teenager in a walmart or to someone on the terror watch list or to someone who's

00:16:24.000 gravely mentally ill with a violent background or to someone with a criminal conviction for a violent 0.79

00:16:28.180 crime they want to sell those weapons that's why they oppose universal background checks okay stop

00:16:33.420 no that's not why they oppose universal background checks and in fact we have universal background

00:16:38.820 checks and you know who the person of the group was that pushed and designed the universal

00:16:43.580 background check system they're the ones who proposed it the nra they were the ones behind the background

00:16:51.560 checks that we currently have they proposed how what to do and how to do it it was the nra so please

00:17:00.840 you're looking at any gun owner as a killer somebody who wants do you hear what she said gun uh gun stores

00:17:11.300 gun manufacturers they want to sell the gun to the mentally disturbed now who do you have to be 0.85

00:17:20.540 to want to sell a gun to the mentally disturbed who do you have to be that you want to sell it to somebody 0.83

00:17:29.540 who wants to go out and kill children that's her view of guns and the people who make guns now let me go to 1.00

00:17:39.800 booker now booker was the least offensive in the 24 hour period but he's here talking about well we

00:17:48.660 should we should have term limits for the supreme court and you know i have to tell you i mean i will

00:17:56.400 talk to people about packing the court listen to this i think we need to fix the supreme court i think

00:18:01.180 they stole the supreme court seat can we keep it at nine should we keep it at nine i think i would like

00:18:05.340 to start exploring a lot of options and we should have a national conversation term limits for supreme

00:18:09.500 court justices might be one thing to give every president to the ability to choose three uh we have 1.00

00:18:14.560 people holding on to those seats in ways that i don't think is necessarily healthy so i want to

00:18:18.660 figure out age limit look i i think we term limits might be a better way of saying that

00:18:24.080 all right age limit shoots like muffin uh lemony snicket

00:18:32.280 it's bizarre man so listen to what he said should we keep it at nine look i'm i'm i'm i'm willing to

00:18:42.120 look at anything keep it at nine it's been at nine supreme court justices since like 1840

00:18:50.220 okay this is something that congress decided on long ago but notice what he also says i think we should

00:18:56.880 have at term limits so every president gets to pick at least three well that would get you six out of the

00:19:04.920 nine in two terms you could dramatically change the country the reason why you don't have term limits you

00:19:14.900 have the power to impeach but you don't have term limits and you don't have the president able to pick

00:19:23.260 them because it's a separate branch it's supposed to keep the other branches in line it's not supposed to

00:19:32.080 be collusion between the branches and that's what the democrats want but then it gets worse from there

00:19:40.160 and this is all in a 24-hour period how does the nation survive if any of these people win

00:19:46.500 the best of the glenn beck program

00:19:50.980 like listening to this podcast if you're not a subscriber become one now on itunes

00:20:02.320 but while you're there do us a favor and rate the show all right david steinberg is the new york city

00:20:08.140 editor of pj media he joins me now he is a guy who uh is uh has done real homework and one of the few

00:20:18.500 that have that have actually pursued uh ilan omar's history and it's kind of complex and i i wanted to

00:20:27.100 bring david on to take us through it david how are you glenn glenn thanks for bringing me on here

00:20:33.200 you know uh you're the first national program i've been on this story in almost a year you're the first

00:20:39.380 person who decided to uh give this some attention nationally i've done some local radio but again i i've

00:20:47.000 been putting this out there with verified facts i've been putting out uh you know court documents

00:20:53.380 i've been putting out social media posts everything that could be confirmed by by listeners themselves

00:20:59.440 you're the first person to bring me on so i really appreciate that david i appreciate the hard work that

00:21:04.320 you did i know the stress that you and your family have to be under because you are exposing

00:21:11.560 something that if you are right uh is is game changing i think truly truly game changing

00:21:19.580 uh let's take through take take everybody through the facts on this started as kind of a blog post

00:21:27.040 kind of rumor then then was it reuters or associated press i think got involved and they couldn't verify

00:21:34.780 nor could they deny they they said really it's up to her we've got to have these documents this all seems

00:21:41.300 buttoned up tell me this story well this actually goes back at least two years uh there's a a local

00:21:51.220 conservative website powerline.com up in minnesota run by scott johnson he's fantastic he's been at this

00:21:59.020 for 15 years he found uh a a post on an anonymous post on a somali message board right after ilhan omer

00:22:10.980 first won election to the state to a state representative seat in minnesota in 2016 like two

00:22:19.020 days after she won election he finds this post uh basically spilling all the beans that she married 0.97

00:22:26.800 her brother in 2009 and likely did it for some some fraudulent purposes it certainly was not a a real

00:22:38.320 marriage it wasn't uh disturbing in that nature but it looks like it could be for immigration purposes

00:22:44.560 it looked like it could be for tax purposes whatever it was and right away there was quite a bit of

00:22:51.040 information that uh that scott was able to publish he had pictures uh he and these were all time stamp

00:22:58.620 pictures uh he had uh witness statements and he did a little digging and just going to the courthouse

00:23:06.940 he found out that she didn't need marry this person just for two years and she had a uh a live at home

00:23:15.680 common law husband during that entire period who she had been married to uh for seven years prior

00:23:22.520 and had two kids with so she was so she's at least would be a bigamist at least she would be a bigamist 1.00

00:23:32.520 uh correct now what she originally said and this is important because the media was was thrilled

00:23:41.000 to be able to be able to say this is our first muslim woman in a hijab and she's a refugee from war

00:23:48.680 she's everything donald trump hates this was in 2016 so she was elected the same night donald trump was

00:23:54.740 elected they were thrilled to have that image and yet just a couple days later they have this other

00:24:01.300 story that uh would certainly destroy all of that so what they did was ilan omar released a statement

00:24:12.620 cleared up nothing addressed none of the evidence but simply said i had my first husband who i'd been

00:24:20.480 married to for seven years we drifted apart i married this second person around 2009 we divorced

00:24:27.460 um we separated in 2011 and i got back with my original husband and that's all i'm going to say

00:24:32.880 about it now glenn if you're if you're a journalist do you stop at that point uh that's what happened

00:24:42.840 they did stop at that point uh they were completely satisfied with her explanation and next two years

00:24:51.640 until 2018 there was virtually nothing uh revisiting that original story that's when i jumped in i jumped

00:25:00.740 back into this in the run-up to the 2018 election and i've been digging on it for almost a year now and

00:25:07.400 i've covered i've uncovered what i believe is enough to put us far beyond a reasonable doubt okay so i want

00:25:13.620 to get in i want to get into the the evidence because it's more than just do you have any idea yet on

00:25:21.140 why she married may have married her brother absolutely okay okay okay so we'll get into

00:25:29.520 that here in a second i want you to lay out the evidence um and and lay out all of the other

00:25:34.700 accusations because it's not just this and it's very very disturbing if this is indeed true uh and it's

00:25:44.220 hard to get your hands on birth certificates etc etc but um there are other ways to be able

00:25:51.060 to verify and and we'll get into that with david steinberg he is the new york editor of pj media

00:25:57.720 and a guy who has really done his work on this and this is an important story because this connects

00:26:06.500 directly to care and what happened just a couple of weeks ago when uh alan omar was uh was not chastised

00:26:15.840 by nancy pelosi they are afraid of her for some reason they are afraid of care joe lieberman said

00:26:24.120 this to me the other day not about care but that that the democrats that he knows in congress are afraid

00:26:29.780 of the left well that includes care and they are very powerful and very dangerous that's why i said david

00:26:38.440 was a a real hero today because he is taking something on that might destroy him and his career

00:26:46.700 uh as you know if he gets it wrong the consequences are really high if he gets it right they may even

00:26:53.520 be higher um tell me tell me now what you have found and the facts that uh line everything up

00:27:02.240 well there's so much here i'd love to go over with you uh so much evidence i've published here's here's

00:27:10.680 the basics for your audience uh back in 2003 this man named ahmed n elmi graduated from arlington

00:27:21.740 senior high school in saint paul minnesota while he was attending that school he was living with a man

00:27:30.000 named nurse saeed muhammad nurse saeed muhammad is ilhan omar's father uh so for the one year he was

00:27:40.000 attending this school in minnesota his legal guardian was ilhan omar's father now i don't have the school

00:27:50.580 records yet i can't uh acquire those without a warrant but i do have several witness statements placing him

00:27:58.000 in that address saying that was his father and i do have address records putting both of them in that

00:28:05.140 address now certainly uh that that would be something that you would think a reporter would

00:28:12.740 ask her about over this time no one's asked her about it uh most of what i've published

00:28:19.260 has been ignored in in the one or two times that she has been confronted by the media

00:28:25.020 uh a new york times reporter uh asked her a couple questions an ap reporter asked her a couple

00:28:30.900 questions nobody has brought up that the second uh bit of information i have showing that this marriage

00:28:39.100 was fraudulent is that from 2009 to 2011 which is the extent of her marriage to ahmed elmi

00:28:48.080 now short so shortly after she married this man who appears to be her brother they both enroll in

00:29:04.900 the same college i checked address records ilhan's first husband who she has two kids with

00:29:11.300 also lived in the same address with ilhan omar and her brother slash husband during those two years

00:29:20.800 she was attending north dakota state university she was living with two husbands at the same time

00:29:26.780 and her two children in the same house in the same actually in the same house one year and then in

00:29:33.240 the same house the next year they were all in the same two addresses actually uh her first husband

00:29:39.620 whom she has the two kids with the records actually show she spent more time living with him

00:29:44.940 during her marriage to to the second husband than she spent living with the second husband

00:29:51.140 and then as soon as she gets her degree in 2011 she heads back to minnesota

00:29:57.620 and according to her her second marriage fell apart and she never spoke to him again

00:30:04.240 that's it the extent of her marriage took place while they were both attending college

00:30:09.480 okay now they which is weird because her kids and her husband are living in the same house

00:30:15.080 all right so um she claims that she never spoke to him again and she claimed that

00:30:20.940 in uh in court uh for the divorce correct

00:30:27.000 she did not divorce ahmed elmi her her her brother until 2017

00:30:35.800 uh when this became a liability for uh running for running for a federal office

00:30:44.200 so that occurred early in 2017 she filled out a form saying she had not spoken to him since 2011

00:30:51.900 she had no idea of where to find him she had no contact with him with any relatives

00:30:58.260 she said she had tried to search for him online with social media

00:31:02.820 every single question she answered on that form is a provable lie a provable instance of perjury

00:31:10.120 uh that there's nine nine instances of perjury just on this one form she signed 0.82

00:31:15.840 for the divorce because all over her social media she is having contact with ahmed elmi from 2011

00:31:25.760 to 2015 not only is she having contact with them she literally was posting pictures of her having

00:31:32.460 physical contact with them they're hugging taking photos of each other in london in 2015

00:31:37.780 and uh ahmed elmi we got in touch with him back in 2016 he admits being the person in the photo but

00:31:47.300 says he was just at some event he doesn't know who the woman standing next to him is

00:31:51.340 he admits he admits that uh you know he had a wild night in london uh with with this woman who uh

00:32:02.620 he can't identify but happened to marry a man with his exact same first name and two middle names and

00:32:10.720 last name now i i did actually bother to to do the uh homework to rule out if there was anybody else

00:32:19.580 named ahmed nurse said elmi there is not there was nobody else alive around his age with that name in

00:32:27.580 either england or the united states so uh for for what he said to be true that he did not know her

00:32:34.340 there has to be a second person but there simply is no records of one

00:32:37.840 now when you say it's her brother are you saying because you can't get the birth certificates because

00:32:47.100 she said that her birth certificates were lost in the civil war in somalia which is reasonable to believe

00:32:53.120 are you saying that this is a brother or like i have a guy i refer to as my brother we've known each

00:32:58.800 other since we were kids he lived with us you know he was practically raised by my parents but he's not

00:33:04.300 my brother um but i consider him my brother is that the kind of brother you think this is or is this an

00:33:10.900 actual blood brother you know i am unable to determine if this is a blood brother no one's going to be able

00:33:21.720 to determine that without a test however i it is clear to me from what i've published and from

00:33:28.280 information i have not published yet i did share some of that with you glenn earlier i'm getting that

00:33:33.440 confirmed by by our attorneys over here and i'll publish it as soon as i can but the the government

00:33:41.640 of london and the government of the united states certainly was told that this person was her brother

00:33:48.860 on several occasions

00:33:50.620 so whether or not this is a blood brother he was either adopted he was a half brother he was her

00:34:00.780 full brother and we don't know that why would she do this what do you think the motive is why would 1.00

00:34:07.500 she do this that's interesting uh some people have been bringing up the fact that they believe it's

00:34:15.060 immigration fraud i don't think that's the case again because this happened in 2009 and months later

00:34:20.720 both of them were attending college i believe this was about student loan fraud uh she was living in

00:34:28.800 public housing at the time he had just graduated from a pretty rundown a pretty rundown high school

00:34:36.280 he didn't have much money and i haven't found any records of him working anything but manual labor at the

00:34:42.560 time but if they got married and they apply for student loans they become independent so their

00:34:51.040 parents income is no longer included on their application so they would immediately well first

00:35:01.000 of all he he might he was going to be paying the out of country out of state rates otherwise

00:35:05.600 so it certainly was a boon for him and both of them their parents were cut out of the picture

00:35:13.180 and they had nothing to their names at the time so their student loan rates would have been fantastic

00:35:19.220 now uh the idea that we're going to throw someone into jail over cheating on student loans

00:35:25.740 it might sound like it's not going to happen but the laws for fraud on a faster form

00:35:31.860 are incredibly incredibly serious uh each instance each instance of a perjury can can lead to a felony

00:35:41.960 and five years of jail all right david i want to have you back when you have some more information

00:35:46.640 because there's it's a lot deeper than just this as if this isn't bad enough david steinberg thank you

00:35:53.860 so much this is the best of the glenn beck program

00:35:59.760 arthur herman is uh is one of my favorite authors one of my favorite historians um he's a senior fellow

00:36:15.840 at the hudson institute he also uh is has been consulting a bit with um the pentagon and others

00:36:23.300 on our national security because he has written so much about how we've done it before the question

00:36:29.780 is can we do it again um he's written a um an essay that is out and and probably not a lot of people

00:36:37.080 have read it and they should america's stem crisis threatens our national security welcome to the

00:36:43.160 program uh arthur how are you hey it's a pleasure to be with you glenn how are you good so arthur i you

00:36:48.860 know i i i'm very concerned about the 5g dilemma that we're in uh doesn't look like our allies are

00:36:56.240 going to go along with uh donald trump and and i think part of that reason is because uh we don't

00:37:01.920 have a real viable solution they're way ahead of us on this um also between more couldn't agree more

00:37:10.100 between 5g and asi or ai and agi i think and i'd like to hear your opinion i think this is the most

00:37:19.280 important national security crisis since maybe star wars with ronald reagan uh and uh and if not

00:37:30.680 it might be as big as the need of a manhattan project in world war ii it could be the other

00:37:36.800 comparison historical comparison which i point to in my essay that you referred to and very generously

00:37:43.240 mentioned is uh the sputnik uh and the advent of sputnik when the united states realized it couldn't

00:37:50.640 be complacent anymore about oh we'll get there eventually because there was a competitor who

00:37:55.900 had found a way to get there first and the implications from not just in terms of you know

00:38:02.100 getting the first one on the moon but the implications for uh strategic advantage the

00:38:07.340 possibility of nuclear weapons in space suddenly galvanized american energies and got the government

00:38:14.640 and its leading research and university institutions focused on we have to change course and we have

00:38:21.680 to really speed up the development of where we want where we are now to where we need to be in order to

00:38:28.480 keep up with a competitor so and i don't think i think that the 5g you're absolutely right 5g is 0.94

00:38:34.940 it is a moment that could be in some ways existential for america's uh in information technology and high

00:38:41.900 tech but because you know dod and our friends at the pentagon uh have trouble getting their minds

00:38:48.820 around it because this is different from your usual military threat the way your weapons were uh the way

00:38:55.840 even even sdi was conceived of was dealing with a real military threat that they could isolate and

00:39:03.480 and talk about discreetly in the ways in which they were trained to do and 5g represents as does ai and

00:39:10.420 as does quantum representing a bold new frontier and it's really hard for our leading government

00:39:16.240 agencies to to come to grips with it and that's what i'm trying to do at my end and this essay that

00:39:22.880 we're talking about is sort of one piece of getting that puzzle together and getting us ready for what

00:39:28.000 we need to do so let me go back to the essay first real quick on something and then i want to talk to

00:39:33.200 you about stem um you mentioned quantum you just mentioned it there how close are we to quantum computing

00:39:40.880 well we already have quantum computers that can solve uh certain kinds of discrete problems ones that

00:39:49.160 are really suited for the way in which quantum computers uh do the numbers and make uh make calculations

00:39:56.920 and again the issue is not that they go faster it's that they are able to skip steps because of the physics

00:40:02.680 underlying how computers quantum computers work um but the problems they deal with are fairly elementary

00:40:09.240 they're designed to be solved by quantum computers as a kind of lab experiment right the quantum computer that

00:40:16.440 everybody worries about rightly and that keeps me awake at night from time to time and when i think

00:40:22.600 about where we could be if we lose that race is the one that could have the capacity of decrypting

00:40:29.800 public encryption systems and i've written about the challenge that it in the consequences of not

00:40:35.560 dealing with that threat of not preparing for q day as i call it uh and for not winning that quantum race

00:40:42.520 i would say the the timeline is steadily shrinking glenn uh for a while i think people thought oh this

00:40:49.320 is out there decades away um i was at a conference in krakow poland on cyber security and there was a

00:40:56.120 scientist there saying oh this is going to be decades away i think most people recognize now we're talking

00:41:01.800 five to ten years out and the big question is not just when it comes glenn but who gets it first correct

00:41:07.880 we need to be there we need to be there first all right so in your essay uh and this is how it relates

00:41:13.240 to the average person i remember growing up i was born in 64 so i came towards you know i i don't remember

00:41:20.600 sputnik or anything else i do remember the moon landing just barely but i do remember the moon landing

00:41:25.480 but here's the thing i remember as a child every boy my age wanted to be an astronaut everyone wanted to

00:41:33.080 work for nasa everybody wanted to work on rockets and that was that was something that was really

00:41:40.200 pushed being you know starting at sputnik they really the the uh government knew we are going to be

00:41:47.720 left in the dust unless we ignite the imaginations of of children yeah and and it worked didn't it i mean

00:41:57.240 it did you had a you had a whole cultural uh shift that emphasized going to space the glamour of

00:42:05.160 engineering of aerospace okay maybe you couldn't go to the moon but you know what maybe you could fly

00:42:10.920 at at altitudes no one ever flown before you know things like the u2 caught people's imaginations

00:42:17.080 and i think frankly glenn i think we can do that again i think when you when you talk to people or even

00:42:23.480 kids about quantum computers about quantum physics and you use terms like teleportation

00:42:31.720 in terms of quantum entanglement when you talk about time crystals where you're actually able to

00:42:38.120 using the right materials three times so that the entanglement between qubits lasts longer to increase

00:42:45.000 the uh the calculations that you can you could manage in these nanoseconds of of of linkage between

00:42:52.360 quantum events when you talk the eyes light up i mean it's it sounds like so fascinating and so cool

00:42:59.320 but we're not there and our school system isn't there and you and i have had discussions and we

00:43:07.400 understand what a disaster our school systems have been and and now it's it's the universities and

00:43:14.920 the colleges have not been much better but we have the opportunity with these advanced technologies

00:43:23.080 to really uh touch on the inner geek for kids in a way that hasn't been possible before and i i'm

00:43:31.240 looking for i'm hoping that we can find the right kinds of partners who can go and say let's get some

00:43:38.280 programs together let's look at the best practices models look at the ways in which countries like

00:43:43.480 taiwan and south korea and norway and great britain have been able to foster strong science and

00:43:51.320 engineering um programs for their young people and let's think about ways in which this could be a new

00:43:57.720 american a new american renaissance in terms of in terms of science in terms of technology and this

00:44:04.280 isn't just a good idea it's become it's become an issue of national and economic security of such

00:44:11.720 weight and moment that if we don't get started now i really worry about what's going to happen over the

00:44:16.440 next over the next couple decades we're going to have such a shortfall of americans who know how to do

00:44:22.520 stuff that it's it's besides you know work as as barista at starbucks that i think we're even even

00:44:32.120 private companies that and companies like google and even facebook understand that they're going to

00:44:37.800 have a real workforce problem and a research problem if we don't address these issues well we already are

00:44:42.760 i mean i i know um it's it's not out in the um in the um in the public but i do know that there are

00:44:52.440 people that have been offered uh large sums of money uh from china to be able to even work over here

00:45:00.440 uh and and stay here but the china is throwing money uh at american minds to bring them over or have 0.95

00:45:09.720 them work for for them over here and you have the opposite problem here the government isn't doing

00:45:15.800 much and the the uh you know the giant corporations don't really want to work for america no and and

00:45:24.760 you've got to find ways to incentivize them to do that and one of the ways in which to do that i

00:45:30.680 believe is through making them partners in dealing with this high-tech stem crisis and make them realize 0.85

00:45:38.440 look uh this is an issue which is not just about national security assuming you care about that and

00:45:44.120 i think a lot of them do actually i think i think the uh i think the globalist agenda that that they have

00:45:51.240 embraced over the last couple of decades it it it's actually wears thin uh when confronted

00:45:59.320 in a in a in a really serious way with what happens if america does lose out on its competitive advantage

00:46:06.200 with a challenger like china they all understand that china's not going to be the next big market for 1.00

00:46:11.880 them it's going to be the next big uh competitor for them and what they're trying to do but what you

00:46:17.960 have is a moment in which you can say look your workforce your future as companies as innovative

00:46:24.760 companies in what you do best is going to be is going to be in serious jeopardy as will our national

00:46:31.080 security if we don't have more americans excited about science excited about engineering and you know

00:46:38.280 what glenn there's a secret aspect of this which i didn't i mean i talk about the implications of this

00:46:43.560 for high tech stem but if we can get america colleges universities get their heads straight

00:46:49.640 about what's happening to them with the with the brain drain to china uh the the way in which they

00:46:57.400 are training future competitors to get them focused on on having strong programs in science and

00:47:04.520 engineering and mathematics we can start to open the door for other kinds of reforms in colleges and

00:47:10.360 universities and universities and i really believe that that there's ways in which everything that

00:47:14.520 we've deplored about universities and colleges of becoming basically marxist training grounds 0.55

00:47:21.080 and leaving our kids culturally and intellectually deprived as part of that leftist agenda we can

00:47:27.640 begin to make enroads at that end by driving this wedge with regard to you have a task and responsibility

00:47:35.160 to america to make us and make our kids prepared for the future and it starts with science and

00:47:41.320 engineering but you know what the next step will be in areas like history the next step will be uh in

00:47:47.880 areas like philosophy and serious understanding of our world and of america's unique place in that so

00:47:55.880 there's a lot at stake here i think that goes that even even if you look beyond the question of

00:48:01.640 science and engineering as part of our national and economic security there is an aspect of this

00:48:08.360 that has to do with saving what's left of the western cultural legacy that i think is also can also come

00:48:16.360 into play here and i know that's something that you and i have thought about and pondered and worried

00:48:21.880 about for a long time and i see this as one way to start start changing the direction and the momentum

00:48:28.360 of on those issues arthur i've only got about a minute left and i have to ask you this question

00:48:31.880 off topic um yesterday i was doing a um a thing on on history and how we've lost history and i think it

00:48:39.080 and i can't remember but it's i'm pretty close to these numbers out of like the 77 uh major universities

00:48:45.960 in america if you go and take and you want to be a history major you do not have to take one

00:48:52.840 one single semester or one course on american history um and 69 of those uh i don't think

00:49:03.160 even teach american history or maybe it's 69 out of the 77 you don't have to take any american history

00:49:10.120 at all and i wanted to know how do you understand history with an exception of ancient history how do

00:49:16.680 you understand history at all without including america it's it's it's baffling and i'll bet if

00:49:24.200 you dig even deeper than that and i know this was the case even a couple of decades ago if you wanted

00:49:29.320 to major in american history at at top level schools like yale like harvard you never had to take a course

00:49:36.120 in the american revolution it wasn't a requirement uh so and how do you understand american history without

00:49:42.360 understanding that pivotal moment uh and and and and the birth of the united of america and of the

00:49:48.760 principles that animate it yeah there's a lot of very serious work there's a lot of corruption that

00:49:56.280 intellectual as well as moral corruption that underlies this what we can do here is begin to sort

00:50:02.680 of change the debate and the discussion about what university's responsibilities are and that includes

00:50:09.560 uh science and engineering but i think it will also include history i always say my concluding

00:50:14.280 remark to glenn is if you want a quiet life don't study history you're exactly right it is filled with

00:50:22.680 challenges and paradoxes and complexities and getting kids away from understanding the true nature of

00:50:31.080 american history and the real dimensions of the past is one of the ways in which universities and the left

00:50:38.040 have have left our kids culturally adrift uh arthur herman uh the author of freedom forge which

00:50:44.600 freedoms forge is one of the best books uh that you can read gandhi's churchill also another one

00:50:50.680 that is so timely right now but it was written in 97 the idea of decline in western history

00:50:57.960 a must read from arthur herman thank you so much arthur i appreciate it the blaze radio network

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