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Trump s new lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and everyone involved in the Steele dossier and the lead up to the impeachment. Plus, Bill O'Reilly on the biggest stories of the week. And Alex Epstein joins us to tell us about Biden s handling of our economy and energy future. Also, don t forget food shortages by Joe Biden.
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Great podcast today. We start with an exclusive from President Donald Trump.
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We talked to him about his new lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and everyone involved in the Steele dossier and the lead up to the impeachment.
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Great idea. Will it work? Plus, Bill O'Reilly on the biggest stories of the week.
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And Alex Epstein joins us to tell us about Biden's handling of our economy and our energy future, which this is a spoiler alert.
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He hasn't been doing a very good job with it. Really? Yeah. I don't know if you've noticed this.
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Also, don't forget food shortages by Joe Biden. All on today's podcast.
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BlazeTV.com slash Glenn. Special show of Glenn TV today.
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For subscribers, as the staff tortures him and makes him watch TikTok videos and react to them.
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Everybody tries to show me TikTok videos and they always say the same thing.
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These guys are so stupid. You got to look at this.
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Well, for entertainment purposes, for us at least, it will be worth it today.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Number 45 and probably number 47, President of the United States, Donald Trump.
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Hello, Mr. Trump, President Trump. How are you?
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I'm good. Thank you for coming on and talking about this.
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You are some of the claims in this suit, the RICO conspiracy, injurious falsehood, conspiracy to commit injurious falsehood, malicious prosecution, computer fraud and abuse act, theft of trade secrets.
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This is really not. Is this about the 2016 election or is this really about what they did to you this whole time?
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Well, I think it's about everything. It covers a lot of territory.
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If this were done and you know this perhaps better than anybody else in the universe, if this were done the opposite way, as you know, they spied on my campaign.
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When I made that statement, everyone thought, oh, my God, what a horrible thing to say.
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I said, Obama spied on my campaign and the Democrats and and all hell broke loose, if you remember.
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In fact, I put it out and I'd never seen I don't think I've ever seen a reaction, which usually means they're guilty.
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In other words, you know, normally if they didn't do it, it wouldn't have that kind of.
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If this ever happened the opposite way, if I spied on Obama's campaign or in Hillary Clinton's campaign, it would have been treason.
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It would have been everything right up until the death penalty.
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And we've been just building it up and building it up and watching.
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And frankly, we wish Bill Barr had the courage to do it or do it also.
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And all of a sudden that talk started dying down.
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But we've been building this up for a long time.
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The Durham report, you know, the early, hopefully it's just the early moments of the Durham report came out.
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And a lot of things are happening, a lot of things.
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But so we expect that names will be added to it as it goes along.
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But can you imagine if it were the opposite way and I spied on, let's say, Obama's campaign?
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And not only that, you know, much of the stuff, when you think about it, took place beyond the campaign.
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So it wasn't just campaign, which in itself is really bad.
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But it took place when we were in the Oval Office.
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So the problem here is nobody ever pays for anything.
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There are no consequences anymore in government if you're on the right side.
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But this is going now to, I think his name is Donald Middlebrooks.
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Which is a conflict of interest, in my opinion.
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We have a judge who was appointed by Bill Clinton, who knows Hillary Clinton very well.
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This is the way it works for Republicans, you know.
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Yeah, this is the guy who threw out the lawsuit filed against Hillary over her using private
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email accounts and servers while she served as Secretary of State.
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And nobody could believe that he threw that out.
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I can't believe I'm asking this question because justice should be justice.
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But how are you going to maneuver around a judge like this?
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They called up and they said, we have good news and bad news.
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And I don't think I've ever received more positive remarks.
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And then Barr didn't act because Barr was lazy and scared.
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He didn't want any part of contempt, which means going to jail.
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So, and so he didn't do, he didn't do his job, but frankly, and it was, it's very sad that
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Now, we have a judge who was appointed by the Clintons and who threw out stuff like, like
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So, Mr. President, you have government officials like Orr, Comey, McCabe, seemingly actively
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But you have Bruce Orr funneling the Steele dossier to the DOJ and the FBI.
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Um, they need a harsher punishment than just a lawsuit.
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But do you have any confidence that the justice department now is anything other than a political
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And, uh, you know, we had, this was accumulating for a long time.
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Uh, it's, you know, one of those things we're going to have to see.
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Even since we filed it, all of a sudden people are calling.
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People are so happy that a case is finally being filed against these people where they,
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you know, the two lovers, they go out and they, then they sue the government because
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And yet they were using servers and everything else.
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This should be handled by government, but it can handle, be handled by us very strongly.
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People that read this case said, wow, this is a strong case.
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Now, the problem we have though, is if you have a judge that's going to throw out the
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case and you have to go through appeals, I think you have a great appeal section, but
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So we'll probably ask for a recusal, uh, maybe a change of venue, but not a change as
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One of the defendants in the case is a former state department official and spokesperson for
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And he said, he tweeted yesterday, I think this is hysterical.
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And I have to tell you, just as a spectator here, um, you are probably the most investigated
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Every single intelligence agency, at least in five eyes.
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Every newspaper, every reporter, every journalist have dug through everything and you're pretty
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So what do they think they're going to get from you in a deposition?
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I have a friend, a very successful guy said, you're the cleanest man in history.
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Where Paul Weiss, a big law firm, that's a total Democrat, Hillary Clinton firm sends
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one of their partners, Robert Schumer heads it, or one of the big partners, Robert Schumer,
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that's Chuck Schumer's brother, sends one of their big partners into the Manhattan DA's office
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take two of our people and three of our people.
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You're tough, you know, smart young guys and go into the Manhattan DA's office.
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Never happened before because they have hundreds of lawyers do a good job.
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They took their partner, top guy, an anti-Trump, a Trump hater.
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One of the biggest donors, that firm, to Hillary Clinton, put him in the DA's office to prosecute
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And Vance, Cy Vance, whose father sold the Panama Canal, as you know, for $1, perhaps the
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single worst business transaction ever made by our country.
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And Cy Vance, instead of using one of his hundreds and hundreds of lawyers, of course,
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he used 20% of, I heard close to 20% of the DA's office, hundreds of lawyers, 20% was using
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it on this, instead of the murders, the drug dealers, the crime, the street crime in New
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They were all focused on getting Trump, but how would you like it?
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And in all fairness, the new gentleman who came in, Alvin Bragg, who is a, you know, considered
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liberal, he looked at this thing and, I mean, I'm reading the papers, but what he said is such
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I heard he was very disturbed by the fact that they sent a team of Hillary Clinton Trump
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in to prosecute Trump from a firm that's 100%, you know, that's totally against, it's one
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of the main Democrat firms, I think the main Democrat firm, and I think they have tremendous
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legal liability, but he sent this sleazebag in to get Trump, think of this, they sent this
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So he acted as a prosecutor, he's a never-Trumper who contributed to, so it continues.
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But Alvin Bragg saw that, and he also saw, by the way, the banks weren't hurt, Trump's
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statement is very powerful, I have a great statement, my statement is so strong, and all
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of the other things, and think of that, they sent a Trump hater into the, to act as the
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DA to bring down Donald Trump, and they still couldn't find anything.
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I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I gotta live with this, hey Glenn, and I gotta live this
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life, okay, a lot of fun, I did a great job as president, right now you wouldn't be in
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Ukraine 100%, Russia would not be there, 100%, and I spoke to Putin about it, I know that
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Putin's attitude toward Ukraine better than anybody but his closest girlfriend, okay, I
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know his attitude better, I know all about him in Ukraine, I said don't ever do it, don't
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ever do it, and I told him why, and I'm not gonna tell you right now, but I'll tell you
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But he would have never, ever made the move, so we have a rigged election, and because of
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a rigged election, we have potentially millions of people dying, because this thing could spiral
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I think it's the most dangerous time in the history of this world because of nuclear, because
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we've never had power like this, and I think that right now we're, and we have a president
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that's grossly incompetent, that's being laughed at over there, that has no relationship, he just
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sits there, everyone's talking, screaming, and you know, the other leaders, they're all at the top
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of their game, and he's just watching them talk, the whole thing is horrible, this should have
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never happened, Ukraine should have never happened.
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I find myself in the weirdest position at night, praying hard for the health of this president,
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because I think Kamala Harris would be even worse than this president.
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She laughed at the immigrants, and they called them immigration, it's immigration,
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and you see people coming in on stretchers with their arms cut off, with their face smashed,
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I said, that's just, it's not the right person.
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Kim Jong-un also tested a new ballistic missile.
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What, what are, are we looking at a split world?
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They're now talking about, you know, the dollar going away, and getting a new digital curve.
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I mean, this is insanity, and I don't think people understand what this administration
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has done with these sanctions that will crush the dollar.
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I don't think people understand how that's going to affect their lives.
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Well, I know sanctions better than anybody, because they sanctioned the hell out of Iran,
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and they were ready to make a deal until the elections.
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We would have had a deal within one week after the election.
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They were, they were ready to make a deal, and I had the sanctions.
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But people don't understand that when you do sanctions, it hurts us as much and sometimes
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more than it does the country you're sanctioning.
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And what it does is forces these big countries like Russia or others, and that doesn't mean
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you don't do them, but you have to be very careful, because it forces them to use other
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They sell their oil for gold, or they sell their oil, and all of a sudden you're saying,
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wow, half the, half the world is now off the dollar.
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It used to be, you know, the currency, when I left, it was, it was very powerful.
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As an example, we used very strong sanctions on Iran, the strongest ever used up until that
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point, but that deal would have been solved, and we would have been right back on the dollar,
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and they would have been fine, and they would have been, everybody would have been happy.
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Do you think, I'm sorry, do you think, Mr. President, that if this continues to spiral
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out of control, with Joe Biden threatening China, which is just a joke, but do you think,
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I don't see anything standing in their way, if we're busy over in Europe with this president,
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Well, except the only thing is that Putin's done very poorly, and Xi is looking at that,
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and he's saying, I bet Putin wished he didn't do that one, because that one is not working
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out too well. Let's see what happens. The problem is, the danger is, does Putin say,
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all right, now we're going to escalate into the next level of military, and you know what that is?
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The world is, well, he doesn't want to lose, I can tell you that. It'll be very interesting
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to see, because he doesn't want to, look, I knew him very well. This would have never happened,
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would have never happened. Now people say, what would you do now? And there are things you can do now,
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but we had all the cards before he did it. All the cards. And I thought he was negotiating when
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he moved the troops. I didn't, you know, I really thought it was a great negotiating posture. He
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stood here with troops, and he wanted to get certain things. And he should have been able to
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do something, but he wouldn't have done it whether he got it or not. He would never have done it with
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me there. But he's a guy that you cannot have him lose face. How do you give him a win here? I mean,
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how would you solve this? If you had to walk in right now, he's not going to walk away a loser.
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How do you give him a win? How do you end this? Well, see, I don't think a win anymore is the
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NATO thing, you know, that they're not going to go into NATO, because that's not, you could have had
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that before. They should have had that before. But it was never put, in all fairness, it was never
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put on the table. Right. You know, there was nobody saying, let's do this. And certainly it
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should have been, because I guess they didn't believe, you know, they didn't think he was
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really serious about doing it. Very few people did. Maybe nobody except him did. And, you know,
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I think he made a tremendous mistake. And on a humanitarian basis, it's just as bad as anyone's
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ever seen. I mean, it'll take 100 years to rebuild that country. And they're knocking down
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buildings and things that are magnificent, old. You know, we have in this country 200-year-old
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buildings that we think they're great. Yeah. They have buildings that are thousands of years
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old. You know, it's like they have things that are very old and very beautiful, and they're
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gone. They're wiped out. A lot of things are wiped out. A lot of, most importantly, the people.
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But artwork and so much is just, that country is devastated. It's going to take 100 years to
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rebuild that country. Mr. President, thank you so much. Are you looking forward? Do you see more
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things coming from the Durham report that will help your case? Well, I think so. I mean, it looks like
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he set a foundation. And if you look at what he's got, these are Hillary Clinton people, and he's got a
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very strong foundation. And you look at that, and now you look at the times where they did, I thought
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that was another terrible story. Really terrible. They knew all about Hunter Biden. They said they
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misread it. They knew all about Hunter Biden and criminality. It made a 17-point difference. But we
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won it anyway. We got 75 million votes. We got more votes than any sitting president has ever
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gotten. I was told if I got what I got the last time, we got 12 million more votes. I was told if we
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got what we got the last time we went. So, you know, I think that a lot of things are going to be
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happening over the coming year. You are very lucky to be doing what you're doing because your show is
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going to get very interesting. So is the world, unfortunately. Unfortunately, yeah, because
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much of it is sadly. Yes. Yeah. Mr. President, thank you so much for talking to us. I really
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appreciate it. This is something that every American, I don't care who you voted for, how you feel about
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any of the people that are involved here. Every American should care what happened and the power
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that has been gathered by Hillary Clinton and the DNC and how corrupt we have become this. We won't have
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fair elections and won't have freedom until somebody pays a price for what has happened. Thank you very
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much, Mr. President. Appreciate it. Thank you, Glenn. And we have a very corrupt media. Remember that. I know.
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Yeah. Next time we're on, I'll ask where the media is in the lawsuit. Thank you so much. God bless.
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Mr. Bill O'Reilly, biggest story of the week, sir.
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That's the biggest story of the week, the month, maybe the year.
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And it means that the Russian military complex thought it would go in in about 10 days and occupy
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most of Ukraine and that Zelensky would flee like the Afghan leaders did.
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Um, and none of it's happened. Um, and now with the increased weaponry that NATO is, uh, sending
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into Ukraine, remember the whole Western border of Ukraine is open.
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The Russians don't have anybody there. So they can get as much, um, armaments and, uh, humanitarian aid in
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there as possible. So Putin, uh, now is embarrassed because every military expert in the world knows that
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his army is not performing well. And instantly the defense minister of Russia vanishes. Did you catch
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that back? Yes. I see that story. Yes. I wonder where he is probably looking out of a window
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and then wanting to see the sidewalk at close up distance quickly or at the bottom of a lake. Yeah.
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Okay. So that would be like our defense chief, you know, blinking secretaries there. Anybody like
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that? Uh, Lloyd Austin just disappearing, just gone. Okay. So that, that is the signal that right there,
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that the, the defense minister of Russia has disappeared. Now, none of the Russian people
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know that. And probably the army doesn't even know it because there's no flow of information
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inside Russia. It, he knocked down Facebook and Instagram and it's hard to tweet there, except
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the Russian government can tweet worldwide because Twitter hasn't banned them. Trump is off,
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but the Russian government is okay. Yeah. Putin's fine. Donald Trump. Absolutely not.
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Hey, Jack Dorsey. Hello. Well, okay. I mean, he's probably still busy working on a reason to,
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uh, uh, to kick the Ayatollah off. I want everyone listening to us right now, all the tens of millions
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of Glenn Beck fans to just step back and just think that a former president of the United States
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is banned from Twitter, yet the Putin government is not. Now that is about as stunning an indictment
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of any corporation I have ever seen. Would you not agree, Beck? I would agree. I would agree.
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So it's not complicated. No, even the ladies on the view could understand it. You'd have to
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tell them slowly. You, you have to go over every word with them, but they could grasp it. Well,
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you, you had, I think it was YouTube, uh, that removed the, uh, uh, the CPAC, uh, video because
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the president mentioned that it was a crooked election. Yeah. Gone. And so gone. Okay. So as
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long as we all know what's happening inside our own country, but let's get back to Putin. So there's
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little Vlad five foot seven. Okay. And you haven't seen him topless lately because he's now serious
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Vlad. So he hasn't been topless hunting tigers. He's, uh, clothed slaughtering Ukraine children.
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That's, that's where Vlad is. He's a real macho man. You know, the village people love him. So
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anyway, he thought he'd roll in there and that the Eastern part of Ukraine would be waving Russian
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flags. And thank you for liberating us, Vlad. You're the greatest guy. And then he would occupy
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the key cities in Ukraine and do what he wants in there and pose some guy like they did in, uh,
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Belarus and Georgia that loves Vlad. That's what he thought. Now there's no assurance
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that the Russian army will even defeat the Ukrainians. So it's been more than a month.
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The news, the news today is, is that the Ukrainians, uh, have pushed the Russians completely out of
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Kyiv. So they have gained ground on the Russians. That's can't believe that's crazy problem. No,
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I know. I know. I know. You can't believe any reportage coming out of Ukraine because the
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Ukrainian government obviously is going to go, we're kicking serious, but, and the Russians are
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going to, Oh no, no, no, we are. So, but what is beyond any dispute is that we are into week five
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and the Russians don't have any part of this theater secured. So Bill, let me ask you this,
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but you know, when we showed the world how incompetent we were in, uh, Afghanistan,
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it changed every ally and, uh, enemy's mind about us. What does this do for Russia? Because we were
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always told Russia was a very good, uh, military and they had completely updated and they are,
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they're better than they've ever been. Really? Excellent question back. And I'm going to give
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you a surprising answer. So you have to understand the Russian army are conscripts. They're drafted.
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Right. They're not signing up like the American army. Right. All right. So there's these guys out
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on the steps. They're 17, 18 years old. They're all of a sudden in a uniform. They don't want to be
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in a uniform. They're not elite forces. And that's who's getting the, um, bulk of the fighting in
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Ukraine. So this is like, I mean, I thought Afghanistan was this for them, but this is like
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Vietnam for us. And that's not against the American soldiers, but forces in, in Vietnam. We're not
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incompetent. The communists never beat us one time. No, no, no, wait, wait, wait. But there's a
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difference between incompetent. I don't want to take down the Vietnam soldiers by any stretch of the
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imagination. Right. But their heart wasn't in it. Um, that's true because they were everybody
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military performed very well under tremendously adverse circumstances of Vietnam. That's not the
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case in Ukraine. So these Ukrainian, um, uh, fighters are far more motivated than the Russian
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conscripts. But here's the most important thing of this embarrassment, military embarrassment for Putin.
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She is watching this. Yeah. Now Putin cannot survive on this planet without China. So now she is going,
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you know what, this might not be our best ally. If we throw in with him, we're going to get economic
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sanctions put on us. That's going to hurt China big time because it's an export economy. They have to
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sell their stuff overseas. If nobody buys it, the Chinese don't eat. So now she goes, look at this.
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Um, so I fully expect because China is different from Russia. This is one man causing this thing in,
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in, uh, Ukraine, one man and one man only Putin. It's not the Duma. It's not the Russian people.
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It's him. China's different. So she, who is the virtual dictator there, he's got to answer.
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He's got to answer. Putin doesn't have to answer. Not now, but when the military turns on him,
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which I believe will happen. Wow. That's going to be the end of Putin. All right. So,
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uh, let me ask you this because that is a, a trapped rat. Uh, and even, you know, you,
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you corner a cat and they pounce, they, they will fight their way out. And he is a, uh, he's a fighter
00:28:31.400
and we backed him into a corner. Uh, I just had president Trump on about an hour ago and,
00:28:38.200
and asked him this question. So does he find a way out or does he amp things up and, and actually
00:28:46.500
consider things like chemical weapons? And Trump told me, I don't know. I can't predict him. I don't
00:28:53.260
know now. Well, that's a, that's a fair answer from Trump. Oh, I think it is. How can anybody know
00:28:58.960
how emotionally damaged Vlad Putin is? We know he's emotionally damaged because no rational human
00:29:06.900
being would do what he did. So we know that. But again, in order to carry out gas and nukes and all
00:29:15.180
of this, the army has to do it. The commanders have to do it. And Putin is in a position now where his
00:29:25.880
main guy, the defense minister, obviously he wasn't, you know, performing. He's gone. The major
00:29:34.860
commanders know that the Russian commanders know it, that he's out. And are they going to,
00:29:40.680
they going to do that? I'm not sure. So I think, well, I mean, look at project Valkyrie. I mean,
00:29:47.820
it takes a lot for you to turn on a commander in chief who just can kill you. It does. But when
00:29:52.840
you're talking nukes and gas, you know, when you're talking that kind of stuff, then Russia, the, the
00:30:00.120
people, the military is the only group in Russia that can neutralize Putin. So the people really,
00:30:07.120
the people can rise up and they can cause trouble, but they can't get up. The military could. So
00:30:13.580
Putin is not nearly as strong as he was seven weeks ago. So, so, so, so let me ask you this,
00:30:20.240
and I'm not asking you for a prediction. I'm asking you for the most likely or most probable outcome
00:30:26.400
here. Do you see this ending quickly? Do you see this dragging on? Do you see him getting more
00:30:32.380
violent or a coup, an inside coup from the military? Well, I think that Putin has a few
00:30:39.700
more weeks to do whatever he thinks he can do. But the sanctions are really cutting into
00:30:46.940
the supply chain. We have supply chain problems in America. Can you imagine the supply chain
00:30:54.140
problems in Russia back? Yeah. They can't get Big Macs. They can't have a Coke. They can't.
00:31:00.160
Well, I will tell you that Russia, you know, this Russia is a very different, the big cities
00:31:05.340
are very Americanized or, you know, Western, but once they run out of vodka, I mean, you
00:31:11.640
know, Hey, yeah, I know. I know. So what I'm trying to say is this, I think he's got a window
00:31:17.480
Putin of a, maybe two or three more weeks that he can, he's not going to be in a position
00:31:27.020
of what they call, it's a cliche, do or die. In that two or three week period, Zelensky has
00:31:33.240
already signaled, look, we won't join NATO. They probably give Putin a few Eastern provinces in the
00:31:39.900
country. If he'd stop, they probably would do that. So I think that the odds are that Putin will say,
00:31:46.960
okay, I'm going to stop and declare victory. And I'm going to tell the Russian people on a,
00:31:52.560
you know, announcement that the Russians are heroic and we freed all these people, you know,
00:31:57.860
that's probably the best odds, but nobody can really, um, no, nobody can really predict it.
00:32:05.740
But here's something that people don't know either. The patriarch of the Russian Orthodox
00:32:11.560
church, 90% of Russians are Russian Orthodox. Key real is his name. He is supporting Putin.
00:32:19.940
Oh yeah. It's unbelievable that this guy who's like the Pope in Russia. Oh yeah. Is supporting
00:32:29.000
Putin because if he sees him, he real, who is bound for hell. Hey, patriarch, you really believe in
00:32:36.540
heaven and hell? Guess where you're going. Okay. If he would say, you know, I think enough's enough.
00:32:43.780
Yeah. Putin would have to stop. Well, Putin is, he has positioned himself because of Alexander
00:32:49.800
Dugan as a, as a defender of the faith. Yeah. He's got the cross on. Right. Even when he's
00:32:55.840
topless, he wears a cross. I don't want to even think about that, Bill. All right. Back with more
00:33:01.060
with Bill O'Reilly. There's a ton to talk about. You can stay the full hour with me, Bill.
00:33:05.300
Yeah. Back, you know, I wouldn't do it for anybody else, but for you, I know you're come
00:33:10.680
on, man. You're in long Island. You're, you're probably in your boxers and you've got a metal
00:33:14.920
detector. You're out by the beach looking for coins or this is the best of the Glenn Beck
00:33:24.000
program. Alex Epstein. Oh my gosh. President Biden is a fascist. Oh, how can you possibly
00:33:44.860
say that, Alex? Well, thank you for picking my most controversial and literally true
00:33:53.720
quote. Yes. It is. Yeah, it is truth. By the way, let me introduce you. Uh, this is
00:33:59.160
Alex Epstein or Epstein. He is the founder and CEO. You got to write the first time. Did
00:34:02.880
I? Epstein. Sorry. It doesn't really matter. Uh, Alex Epstein, founder and CEO center for
00:34:07.500
industrial progress, author of the moral case for fossil fuels. And, uh, it is a great,
00:34:13.760
great book. Uh, all right, Alex, how could that possibly be true?
00:34:18.780
So it's weird that the term fascism isn't used except to insult kind of pro freedom people,
00:34:26.840
but fascism has a literal meaning, which I indicated in that tweet, which is, it's essentially the same
00:34:32.540
thing as socialism, which is total government ownership and control of everything. But under
00:34:37.180
fascism, there's this phony ownership. So you have title to property, but the government has
00:34:42.460
unlimited ability to control your exercise of that property. And in some ways it's worse than
00:34:48.160
socialism because I ran to roughly put it as, you know, it gives you the responsibility of
00:34:53.060
ownership without the benefits. Yep. It almost sounds like the great reset, but I digress.
00:34:58.720
Go ahead, Alex. Oh yeah. Well, it is, but, but I think it's important and I'm glad you're
00:35:03.260
highlighting the great reset, which is actually the great regress. But the great regress is global
00:35:08.980
fascism in particular. So it's not saying it's become out of fashion to say, okay, well, we all are
00:35:14.920
smart people are going to literally own everything and control it. They're like, no, you can own
00:35:19.300
it, but we have unlimited control, including we get to control every molecule of CO2, which
00:35:25.220
basically means every body and every machine in the society. So I think it's really important
00:35:30.040
to identify fascism as a thing and for its negative associations to remain with it. And that I think
00:35:36.660
it's why it upsets people so much when I do it because they don't want that those associations,
00:35:41.860
but those associations are very deserved. So there's some disturbing things like yesterday
00:35:47.960
coming out from Larry Fink, the head of BlackRock, which is one of the leaders of this fascistic
00:35:54.960
movement. I mean, in case you don't know, he just said the actions taken by the private sector in
00:36:01.620
Ukraine and Russia demonstrate the power of capital markets, how the markets can provide capital to
00:36:07.960
those who have constructively worked within the system and how quickly they can deny it to those
00:36:14.560
who operate outside of it. Holy mother, that sounds terrifying. That's everything we said was coming.
00:36:22.220
That is fascism. And what's happening is President Biden is saying, we're going to do everything we can
00:36:30.080
to get these oil prices down. No, he's not. He's doing exactly the opposite, exactly the opposite.
00:36:36.800
And he's doing it through these corporations in a public-private partnership on ESG to not provide
00:36:45.280
any of the financing for these companies to actually build the infrastructure or reopen the
00:36:51.560
infrastructure to get things flowing again. So you raise a lot of issues, and I think all of those
00:36:58.140
issues come together in what just occurred a few days ago, which is the SEC announcing new,
00:37:04.320
what they call climate-related disclosure rules. This is in the context where we have rising oil
00:37:11.120
prices, rising gasoline prices, and lowering security, particularly in Europe, but also concerns
00:37:16.900
in the U.S. And there's a recognition that we need more domestic fossil fuel production, and maybe that
00:37:23.460
those who have been opposing domestic fossil fuel production over the years are villains in this case.
00:37:29.100
And the Biden administration, that's kind of an obvious thing, but the Biden administration is trying
00:37:32.980
to stretch all logic and say, no, in fact, we have done nothing to oppose domestic fossil fuel production,
00:37:39.380
even though I've been doing this for the last 20 years, including as part of Obama, and even though
00:37:44.180
I literally ran on, I guarantee you, we will end fossil fuel. So they're trying to stretch this so much,
00:37:50.660
but they can't help themselves, because at the same time, they just propose these rules,
00:37:55.460
which literally say that, which in effect mean I should say that every company under a certain
00:38:01.900
jurisdiction has to acknowledge climate catastrophisms. You have to say our CO2 emissions are not just
00:38:07.360
causing warming, but literally global catastrophe, and you have to adopt practices that the government
00:38:14.020
deems good, and they specify particular things like renewable energy, which really means unreliable
00:38:19.400
solar wind. So if that's not fascism, I don't know what it is, but it's even worse than regular
00:38:24.560
fascism, because it's green fascism, which means green is the idea that human impact is bad. So it's,
00:38:31.160
which is an anti-human idea. So it's anti-industrial fascism. So the worst of all worlds, government
00:38:36.640
control, but it's not even trying to make industry effective. It's trying to make industry green,
00:38:41.740
which ultimately means just we don't do anything.
00:38:43.880
So here's, here's one thing that, because I'd like you to make the moral case, but here's, here's something
00:38:50.060
that most people don't know. When Trump got into office, Rick Perry was our Secretary of Energy, and he went
00:38:55.560
over to Poland, and Poland is somebody that was completely dependent on Russia for their gas, and Rick
00:39:04.960
said, well, how much gas do you guys need? And he told him, the president of Poland told him, and he's like, I think
00:39:13.040
we can get that from just Texas alone. Hey, don't worry about your gas problem. We were shipping so
00:39:18.380
much natural gas over to Poland, that they were actually selling part of it, because they had
00:39:24.340
enough for themselves, they were selling part of it to Ukraine. That took everybody out of the Russia
00:39:31.560
pipeline. And Biden comes in, that's over. We're not sending it now. That's insanity.
00:39:38.900
Well, so there's just this basic fact, which is that the US has virtually limitless quantities of
00:39:47.240
fossil fuel that we can produce domestically and abroad. So and this is true of the world in general.
00:39:53.280
So when you see price spikes and supply not meeting demand, you can be sure that the political
00:39:57.840
phenomenon, not a physical phenomenon or some like lack of skill or something like that. And the natural gas
00:40:04.340
case that you raise is a very instructive example. Recently, on my podcast, Power Hour, I had Toby
00:40:10.060
Rice, who's the CEO of EQT, which is the nation's largest natural gas producer. And so, you know, we
00:40:14.820
could be producing a third more natural gas, if we had the pipeline infrastructure, and the export
00:40:21.100
infrastructure. Well, who's been opposing pipelines and exports for 20 years, Joe Biden, and in general,
00:40:27.020
the anti fossil fuel left. So the idea that they've done nothing to restrict production,
00:40:31.660
is just an insult to our intelligence. Yeah. So talk to me about I mean, because when people say
00:40:37.920
we got to get off fossil fuels, getting off of fossil fuels, even if we were building all kinds of
00:40:46.060
nuclear reactors, we must have fossil fuels, because almost everything in our lives has petrochemicals
00:40:56.940
attached to it. Correct? That's true. But it's a relatively small fraction of fossil fuels. And
00:41:03.900
it's particularly oil and natural gas, although you can do that stuff with coal. So you're right
00:41:08.220
that the general idea of keep it in the ground, one major reason is just totally ignorant and
00:41:14.320
destructive is because we have all these life enhancing synthetic materials. So if you want to
00:41:18.400
keep it in the ground, that means the artificial hearts are never going to exist. That means, you know,
00:41:22.780
refrigerators are not going to exist. Modern sanitation is not going to exist. So it's what
00:41:28.020
it really shows is the just fundamental irresponsibility of the anti fossil fuel movement.
00:41:33.140
But it's not just the petrochemicals. The main thing is, is the energy because fossil fuels still
00:41:38.660
are uniquely cost effective source of energy, which means they provide low cost, reliable energy
00:41:44.280
for all types of machines, including heavy duty industry and transportation, things that nothing else does
00:41:50.200
right now. And they do it on a scale of billions of people in 1000s of places. And this is a world
00:41:56.080
that is dramatically underpowered, we still have 3 billion people using less electricity than a
00:42:02.000
typical American refrigerator. And that's why I say I have a new book coming out in two months called
00:42:06.280
fossil future. And it is a fossil future. And we need to embrace that because the world needs more
00:42:11.380
energy. Fossil fuels are uniquely good, we should be liberating nuclear, what I call decriminalizing
00:42:16.660
nuclear, that's a key thing. Yes, for human beings to flourish for decades and generations to come, we need
00:42:22.120
to be doubling down on fossil fuels. So right now, it looks like the the new axis power, if it's cobbled
00:42:29.300
together, would include much of Asia, China, of course, and India, maybe even Saudi Arabia, and Russia,
00:42:41.300
they're all going to double down on fossil fuels, which makes our fight for climate ridiculous,
00:42:48.180
because you can't do half of the world. But that's what we're going to do. What happens to the West,
00:42:57.260
if we continue to go down this road with a great reset and choking to death all of our fossil fuels?
00:43:06.260
What does that mean for us? I'm glad you're highlighting this in fossil future, I use the
00:43:11.960
term unilateral disempowerment to discuss this, because we're unilateral saying, yeah, we're not
00:43:16.960
going to be empowered by fossil fuels, but we're one sixth of the world's emissions and declining.
00:43:22.060
So what happens is one sixth, go ahead and declining. Yeah. And so if you look at it, it's really
00:43:29.380
terrifying. I mean, we're just getting a memory now of the 70s, which I was not alive. And I was born in
00:43:33.940
1980. But I know the history, people have had no idea until recently what an energy crisis is like,
00:43:39.940
and what you will do in an energy crisis. But what you see with Europe is, look how cowardly they are
00:43:45.300
in the face of Russia, they won't do anything. Why? Because Russia can literally kill them by cutting
00:43:50.200
off their energy supply, because they were so irresponsible and made themselves super dependent
00:43:54.380
on Russia. This is just the beginning, though, there can be far more control. So there's the ability to
00:43:59.940
cut off people's energy. But then there's also just the ability to have far more resources for an economy
00:44:05.940
and to wage war. A brilliant point, Palmer Luckey, who's the creator of Oculus, but also created the new
00:44:12.180
defense company, Anderil, like one of the few tech guys who's really pro-American. He made the point that,
00:44:17.160
you know, you succeed in wars with a massive domestic production ability that you can sustain. How does ours
00:44:23.240
compare to China right now? And what's going to happen if we keep mandating unreliable solar and wind,
00:44:28.340
and then they keep using 60 plus percent coal for their electricity, including to make our
00:44:34.120
unreliable solar panels and wind turbines? We're going to be, we'll be France at best, France without
00:44:39.540
nuclear power. Let me ask you this. We keep talking about, you know, well, gas is so expensive, you just
00:44:46.520
buy an electric car. The electricity coming from the outlet is not a magic box. Most of it is made by
00:44:55.080
coal. Some of it is made by fossil fuels. Some of it is made by, by nuclear, but you cannot cut off
00:45:05.220
the fossil fuels in our power plants. How fast, what does it look like? What percentage has to be
00:45:14.020
plugging their cars in before we, we, without changing anything, have an energy crisis because of
00:45:21.580
electricity? Yeah, that's a, that's a great thing to raise. You know, the Babylon Bee, I live in
00:45:28.040
California still, and the Babylon Bee had this great headline when Newsom, Newsom is just such a piece
00:45:33.900
of work because, you know, by 2035, he said, we're outlawing gasoline cars. And they had this great
00:45:39.700
headline, you know, governor outlaws like, you know, gasoline cars or mandates electric cars in a state
00:45:46.580
without electricity. And that is the essential logic of what we're talking about. We're going to
00:45:50.880
say, we're going to use all of these battery cars, and yet we're undercutting our ability to produce
00:45:56.080
electricity. And we're seeing, you know, even more than the canary in the coal mine with what's
00:46:00.280
happened in California, with what's happened in Texas. Just the fundamental thing that's happening
00:46:04.740
is people are mandating unreliable solar and wind, and they are divesting from reliable power plants.
00:46:10.860
And in particular, they are not investing in resiliency measures. That's a lot of what happened in Texas,
00:46:15.960
where you don't weatherize things. So while Alberta was did great with worse temperatures
00:46:20.640
during the week of the Texas crisis, Texas had a disaster, because it's it spent, you know,
00:46:25.760
$70 billion on solar and wind, and the related infrastructure. So it's it's a disaster to depend
00:46:32.360
on elect, like, the more you have electric vehicles, you have to have an amazingly robust grid. And yet
00:46:38.560
we're mandating these vehicles and worsening the grid, which just gives the government total control