The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Dr. Karlyn Borysenko & Aaron Kindsvatter ｜ 3⧸22⧸21

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody! It's a Monday and a beautiful Monday at that.

00:00:04.920 We start with scattered showers and some scattered journalism that's been happening.

00:00:10.920 We go to our weather guy, Steve Regeer, who has some amazing, well, one amazing report from ABC

00:00:19.280 where they're actually doing journalism on the border. It's nuts.

00:00:24.560 It's incredible.

00:00:25.320 And we only featured one, but there's actually been several. This is insane.

00:00:29.040 I don't know how to deal with it.

00:00:31.140 We don't want to shock the system.

00:00:33.760 We'll do one at a time, maybe another one tomorrow.

00:00:37.260 We talk a lot about the border today and what's going on.

00:00:40.280 Also, critical race theory.

00:00:42.300 A great bill that is up in New Hampshire that I think every state needs to pass.

00:00:48.800 When you hear it's controversial, in fact, the Governor Sununu, the Republican, air quotes, governor,

00:00:56.720 says he's not going to sign it.

00:00:59.240 When you see what's in the bill, and we talked to one of the sponsors of it, there's nothing controversial in it.

00:01:06.540 Also, a professor up in Vermont who is a guy, he's a psychiatrist.

00:01:12.420 He works with psychiatrists, psychologists, people that are in the schools evaluating your children.

00:01:18.920 He is in real trouble in his school, even though he has tenure.

00:01:23.120 He's being told they'd like him to resign because he's against critical race theory.

00:01:28.120 When you hear him explain it, you'll understand how dangerous this ideology really is.

00:01:33.000 All this and more on today's podcast.

00:01:41.200 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:01:49.440 I have to apologize immediately.

00:01:54.880 I'm really sorry.

00:01:56.280 Could we please play the CNN interview with Linda Sanchez, Congressman Linda Sanchez, over the weekend?

00:02:06.940 I don't necessarily think that it's appropriate for journalists to be inside centers that are not permanent places for children,

00:02:15.860 that children are not placed there permanently.

00:02:17.920 They're processed out of those facilities as quickly as possible and as quickly as the facilities will allow.

00:02:24.720 Some of them are being held there longer than they're legally supposed to be.

00:02:29.920 They are doing the best that they can under COVID protocols.

00:02:33.220 If it were not a pandemic, I would totally understand.

00:02:38.900 I feel really bad because in the first half hour, we talked about journalists

00:02:46.600 and some journalists that are saying we should be allowed in to take pictures, you know,

00:02:54.140 because that's happened with every president, you know.

00:02:59.420 In fact, do we have the photojournalist that says that he has tried to get in with every single president?

00:03:10.840 Every single president has allowed him to photograph U.S.

00:03:16.620 Customs and Border Protection Operations, except for Joe Biden.

00:03:21.160 He is from Getty, the image special correspondent.

00:03:25.000 His name is John Moore.

00:03:26.940 And he's he's speaking out now because Joe Biden isn't letting anyone in.

00:03:35.220 And I thought this was a transparent maybe when he fell down, he bumped his head and he forgot about that.

00:03:41.920 Oh, see, there's another joke.

00:03:43.600 Do we have the audio of the of the the guy on MSNBC saying, you know, don't joke about that thing?

00:03:50.380 Because that that's I got to apologize again.

00:03:54.180 My gosh, guy on NBC this weekend, MSNBC said, joking about the president falling down the stairs could lead to assassinations.

00:04:06.980 And so bizarre.

00:04:09.340 What do you mean?

00:04:11.020 Well, that's clearly a logical step.

00:04:14.400 Is it clearly you joke about the president falling?

00:04:19.120 OK, and the next thing, boom. 0.98

00:04:21.980 He's dead from an assassin's bullet.

00:04:25.040 It's not usually the way it happens.

00:04:27.040 I will say to Gerald Ford fell down the stairs Saturday Night Live.

00:04:30.980 Always making fun of him.

00:04:32.200 It's true.

00:04:32.640 Squeaky from.

00:04:33.740 Thank you very much.

00:04:34.700 Good night.

00:04:35.300 Mic drop.

00:04:36.060 No, that's none.

00:04:37.260 None of that's rational in any way.

00:04:41.340 It's when does that matter?

00:04:42.500 No, it's true.

00:04:43.120 I mean, look what they did with Trump.

00:04:44.040 I mean, I know there's a Drew Holden had a great thread of all the things they said about Trump.

00:04:48.840 Think piece after think piece after think piece about how we have to absolutely take it seriously that he could only he had that issue where he had to use his other hand to help himself take a drink of water.

00:04:58.900 And he looked like he was walking very gingerly down the ramp.

00:05:02.660 And that was that is important.

00:05:04.420 We must focus on it.

00:05:05.780 No, it sounds like it's nothing.

00:05:07.560 But we must change that.

00:05:08.960 We must focus on it because it is serious.

00:05:12.020 You know, every single media organization said that back in the day.

00:05:16.180 And now, you know, you're not even supposed to ask a question about it or have a little sad.

00:05:21.300 It was a sad fall.

00:05:22.440 I mean, this is you're watching them.

00:05:24.980 Yeah.

00:05:25.140 You're watching somebody who is clearly, clearly should not be in this position.

00:05:30.220 You're watching them just deteriorate in front of your eyes.

00:05:34.040 And does the family not care?

00:05:36.540 Does does no one care?

00:05:38.220 Is this the way this guy is going to go out?

00:05:41.280 Really?

00:05:41.780 You're going to have him remembered this way.

00:05:43.880 It's just so obscene, so obscene.

00:05:47.300 But they you know, they don't they don't care about the truth anymore.

00:05:51.480 Have you seen the journalist from I think it's the Atlantic?

00:05:56.180 So here's the latest on the Asian attacks from apparently the right. 0.96

00:06:04.120 The Asian attacks are going on. 1.00

00:06:05.980 There was somebody else that was there was somebody else that was attacked.

00:06:09.820 It was horrible, horrible.

00:06:12.420 68 year old man, Asian, punched in the face.

00:06:15.920 At the stop of the one train in New York.

00:06:24.240 He's in critical condition.

00:06:26.360 Now, we have the attacker on tape doing it.

00:06:31.920 We know who it is.

00:06:33.240 OK, it I mean, just a really bad guy. 1.00

00:06:39.900 Black. 0.97

00:06:41.440 Here's what the reporter from the Atlantic tweeted. 0.99

00:06:44.860 Now, remember, we're crazy conspiracy theorists to say Joe Biden and his son are corrupt. 0.75

00:06:54.560 That's a crazy conspiracy. 0.65

00:06:58.000 Tariq Nasheed just tweeted. 0.97

00:07:01.440 Many people believe that the NYPD is orchestrating these random attacks on Asians using black people who are paid assets.

00:07:12.840 I'm not sure how true this theory is.

00:07:16.580 But when suspects dressed like blacks or blaxploitation characters using jive Turkey 70s dialogue like this, it does seem questionable.

00:07:28.800 Really?

00:07:31.240 Alex Jones wouldn't even go there.

00:07:34.540 Alex Jones wouldn't say.

00:07:36.660 What are you saying?

00:07:39.400 He's saying this is a false flag.

00:07:42.000 That's what got Alex Jones thrown out of society and the most dangerous man of all, because he was saying false flag.

00:07:50.720 This guy is not only claiming false flag. 0.96

00:07:54.760 He's saying the cops are paying black people. 0.93

00:07:59.320 And the only reason why you can tell this is because it's obvious a white man dressed him. 0.96

00:08:06.560 What?

00:08:07.420 Yeah, that's that's a fascinating theory, especially because going back a long time, Department of Justice records show that the most common attacker of an Asian person is an African-American.

00:08:18.240 Despite being one fifth of the population of white people, that is the most and not an Asian people are tied with white people for how many people attack Asian people.

00:08:31.320 So, again, this idea that there is some sort of bizarre epidemic of violence against Asian Americans by white supremacists is not shown really anywhere in the data.

00:08:45.680 I mean, it doesn't seem to do you need it.

00:08:48.660 You have the vice president now of the San Francisco school board talking about what's really going on with Asians.

00:08:56.020 Now, of course, this woman is very conservative being the vice president of the school board in San Francisco. 1.00

00:09:03.120 She has said many Asian students and teachers I know won't engage in critical race conversations unless they see how they are impacted by white supremacy.

00:09:17.100 She says, I grew up in a mostly Asian American school, and I know this experience all too well.

00:09:22.660 Many Asian Americans believe they benefit from the model minority BS.

00:09:27.120 In fact, many Asian Americans, teachers, students, and parents actively promote these myths.

00:09:34.020 They use white supremacist thinking to assimilate and get ahead.

00:09:38.780 Talk to many Lowell High School parents and you'll hear praise of tiger moms and disparagement of black and brown culture.

00:09:48.180 Where are the vocal Asians speaking out against Trump?

00:09:51.540 Don't Asian Americans know that they're on his list as well?

00:09:54.640 Do they think they won't be deported, beaten?

00:09:57.940 Being a house N-word is still being an N-word.

00:10:02.000 You're still considered the help.

00:10:05.160 Oh.

00:10:05.880 People.

00:10:07.320 They are. 1.00

00:10:08.420 These activists are just so crazy. 0.99

00:10:12.000 No, she's a vice president of the school board in San Francisco. 0.98

00:10:15.400 What makes you say she's an activist?

00:10:16.760 She sounds like one.

00:10:18.240 Really?

00:10:18.740 Sounds like an activist.

00:10:19.420 No, she's just trying to help all the students. 0.97

00:10:21.540 This just obsession with skin color is remarkable. 0.52

00:10:26.340 You only hear this.

00:10:27.520 I only hear this from white nationalists, this level of obsession.

00:10:32.120 And I guess you go to a white nationalist conference, you might see this sort of obsession with color of skin.

00:10:39.120 But this is what we're getting from so many who are in control of the lives of your children.

00:10:44.420 And, you know, a lot of people, we've heard a lot from people in California.

00:10:48.220 And a lot of them have been saying, hey, open up those schools.

00:10:52.740 Do you know what you're asking for here?

00:10:55.220 Maybe this is the best year of your kid's life.

00:10:59.560 Maybe your kid being taught by you or someone near you in a group sort of setting.

00:11:06.760 Maybe even just being taught by Netflix, you know, and Star Wars movies might be even better than this.

00:11:14.740 By the way, the Recall San Francisco School Board campaign, the ones that found these tweets, she said, I am not going to even address tweets that were written five years ago.

00:11:28.120 Oh, I know.

00:11:29.240 Oh, that's yeah.

00:11:29.960 Five years ago is so long.

00:11:34.620 Since when is that a no go zone for the left?

00:11:38.760 So they released this.

00:11:41.280 They are.

00:11:41.860 These are liberals in San Francisco that are banding together and saying enough of this.

00:11:48.460 By the way, she represents schools, the school that she's talking about and the school that she's overseeing, the schools, is a mainly Asian area.

00:11:59.720 And she's calling them white supremacist or using white supremacist philosophies, which is.

00:12:07.700 Do good in school, do work hard, be a model student, be a model citizen, a model for what whites. 0.97

00:12:18.280 That's exactly right.

00:12:19.540 That is really the philosophy behind the anti-racism stuff.

00:12:23.520 The white fragility stuff is that these characteristics that we've all always looked at and said were positive.

00:12:31.040 And it was my understanding.

00:12:32.180 It was across all societies.

00:12:33.800 Things like showing up on time, working hard.

00:12:37.720 Oh, wait until I show you.

00:12:38.780 Wait until next hour.

00:12:40.360 Oh, I've got something that is being taught now in businesses that you won't believe.

00:12:45.640 Well, I mean, you will.

00:12:46.740 But it's it's all that.

00:12:48.400 It's all that.

00:12:49.400 Wait until it'll it'll boggle your mind.

00:12:52.280 Could I just leave this segment with some common sense from Bill Maher?

00:12:57.920 Listen to what he is saying on segregation and who's to blame.

00:13:03.000 We seem to be entering an era of resegregation that's coming from the left.

00:13:08.420 I mean, on many college campuses, you can have there are separate dorms, separate black dorms, graduation ceremonies, stuff like that.

00:13:16.980 But how will that affect elections in the future?

00:13:19.860 You know, I think there's there's a lot of there is a great study in North Carolina that showed that, you know, racially integrated schools make people more more liberal.

00:13:28.540 But, you know, I think just to go back, I think that the important thing is to just realize that most nonwhite voters are not liberal. 0.95

00:13:39.100 They don't identify as liberal.

00:13:40.600 We should take that really seriously.

00:13:41.920 And I think that when it like realizing that most voters don't share our values means that we should instead try to meet people where they are with the values that they actually hold and that we should talk them about issues that they care about.

00:13:54.520 That's one of the, you know, brainiacs from the Center for American Progress.

00:14:00.160 One last clip from Bill Maher.

00:14:02.980 I never thought I would live in an era.

00:14:05.780 I remember watching movies about the 50s and the blacklist era when people would whisper that you were a communist and all it took was somebody informing on you and saying, oh, they saw you at a rally or at some peace march.

00:14:19.140 And you were branded and your career was over or you were on the blacklist.

00:14:23.300 People go to parties now and they like they don't want to talk.

00:14:26.640 They're like, can I talk?

00:14:28.500 I don't know your girlfriend.

00:14:30.480 She might be woke.

00:14:33.020 Really?

00:14:34.040 I'm not making this up.

00:14:36.200 People, this informant thing, this it's not just what you do.

00:14:40.460 It's what you don't report.

00:14:42.960 That's another way the goalpost moved.

00:14:45.340 I was reading about this guy, Winston Marshall, the banjo player in Mumford and Sons.

00:14:52.680 Okay.

00:14:54.740 I remember when they were a thing.

00:14:56.900 Yeah. 0.94

00:14:57.440 For about the time it took to take a p***. 0.68

00:15:01.880 This guy tweeted out that he liked a book.

00:15:05.000 It's a book called Unmasked.

00:15:06.880 I never heard of it.

00:15:07.780 You never heard of it.

00:15:09.940 It's apparently not favorable to Antifa.

00:15:12.920 So it's criticizing Antifa.

00:15:14.340 Okay, people write books.

00:15:16.320 He tweeted out, finally had the time to read your important book.

00:15:19.900 You're a brave man to the author.

00:15:23.520 Now he has to step away.

00:15:25.580 Everyone's always stepping away from the band.

00:15:27.960 Oh, my God.

00:15:31.100 And this is his apology.

00:15:32.920 Again, so Soviet. 0.98

00:15:34.340 Over the past few days, I have come to better understand the pain caused by the book I endorsed.

00:15:41.140 What?

00:15:41.900 Would you hit somebody over the head with it?

00:15:43.640 I have offended not only a lot of people I don't know, but also those closest to me, including my bandmates. 1.00

00:15:51.820 What a bunch of f*** they must be. 0.99

00:15:55.340 And for that, I am truly sorry. 1.00

00:15:57.480 It's so Stalin-esque.

00:15:59.760 It's so, you know what?

00:16:01.160 How about I can read what I want?

00:16:03.080 I'm a musician.

00:16:03.860 Don't worry.

00:16:04.400 It won't happen again.

00:16:06.040 Jeez.

00:16:07.880 Hopefully, people are starting to wake up to how Soviet we are becoming. 0.99

00:16:16.820 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:16:29.740 All right.

00:16:30.760 I've got to go over this, Bill, before we introduce you to a couple of people.

00:16:35.260 Um, the propagation of divisive concepts prohibited.

00:16:40.640 The definitions.

00:16:43.620 Contractor means any and all persons, individuals, corporations, businesses of any kind that are in any manner entered into a contract, perform a subcontract pursuant to a contract with the state of New Hampshire.

00:16:54.780 Divisive concept means the concept that a one race or sex is inherently superior to another race or sex.

00:17:03.320 Think how far we've gone.

00:17:06.700 B. The state of New Hampshire, the United States, is fundamentally racist or sexist. 0.55

00:17:12.140 C. An individual, by virtue of his race or sex, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously.

00:17:19.320 D. An individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because his or her race or sex.

00:17:28.460 E. Members of one race or sex cannot and should not attempt to treat others without respect to race or sex.

00:17:36.840 F. An individual's moral character is necessarily determined by his race or sex.

00:17:43.120 G. An individual, by virtue of his race or sex, bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex.

00:17:52.220 H. Any individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race or sex.

00:18:00.320 Or I. Meritocracy or traits such as hard work ethic are racist or sexist or were created by a particular race to oppose another race.

00:18:12.420 I. I could have read this to you 10 years ago and said, we're going to have to start passing bills like this and they're going to be hard to pass 10 years from now.

00:18:24.340 And you wouldn't have believed me.

00:18:26.780 It's hard to believe right now.

00:18:28.660 It I mean, what is what where is the controversial part of that?

00:18:33.440 The one part that they push back on occasionally on these things is and I believe this is a correct criticism that you can't really have affirmative action without these sorts of when you have these in place, you can't really have affirmative action.

00:18:49.580 Now, as a person who opposes affirmative action, I'm totally fine with that. 1.00

00:18:52.320 But like California ran into some of this when they had laws that really made it seem like you're not supposed to treat people differently because of their skin color, which is obviously supposedly universal concept.

00:19:04.340 But we want to do all these affirmative action programs. 0.54

00:19:07.660 So we can't have this in place.

00:19:09.340 But I believe it was D of what you just read that said no adverse.

00:19:15.520 Can you read the wording of that one again?

00:19:16.920 Yeah, D is an individual should be if they're teaching that any individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of his race or sex.

00:19:29.340 So that's even keeping it open to positive treatment because of your sex or your race.

00:19:34.200 Right.

00:19:34.320 It's OK, essentially, to have affirmative action.

00:19:36.220 It's not trying to take that issue on.

00:19:37.860 So I'd like to know, well, first, Carlin Borisenko, an organizational psychologist and a friend of the program, doctor, how are you?

00:19:48.580 I'm doing well, Glenn.

00:19:49.760 How are you?

00:19:50.360 When I say doctor, you're supposed to say doctor.

00:19:53.540 Oh, sorry, doctor.

00:19:55.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:19:57.520 So you're involved in this New Hampshire bill, HB 544.

00:20:01.340 For you're promoting it, you know, on your website at YouTube and you've looked into it.

00:20:09.880 How is this controversial?

00:20:12.480 You know, I really don't know.

00:20:13.980 I've been working with state lawmakers over the last month or so.

00:20:16.820 There's been testimony in the House of Representatives over this bill.

00:20:20.600 And it really is something that shouldn't be controversial.

00:20:23.660 But, of course, the Democrats in the state of New Hampshire are pushing back on it very strongly.

00:20:28.440 The first message, they've gone through several different messages at this point.

00:20:31.120 The first one is that they said this bill was racist.

00:20:34.540 Now, given the definitions you just read, I don't know how anyone can reasonably argue that.

00:20:39.560 The second one that they tried is this bill is transphobic, which makes no sense since trans people are not mentioned in the bill at all.

00:20:48.340 At all.

00:20:48.880 But the third one, and this is the one that seems to be sticking, is that they're saying that this bill infringes on free speech, which.

00:20:58.300 Oh, my.

00:21:00.220 The irony there.

00:21:02.240 Oh, my gosh.

00:21:03.640 I know.

00:21:04.260 And the fact of the matter is that this is the talking point that has stuck with some Republicans in my state, including my Republican governor, Chris Sununu, who is now listening to this Democratic talking point, rather than listening to the Republicans in the House that are trying to pass this bill and to the voters who elected him.

00:21:20.900 That is unbelievable.

00:21:24.320 So what are our Democrats on in lockstep on this?

00:21:29.960 Or are there some Democrats, you know, like Bill Maher was over the weekend saying this is this this has got to stop?

00:21:37.380 No, I mean, the Democrats are pretty much in lockstep.

00:21:39.660 There might be one that might defect our way.

00:21:42.300 But no, they're they're pretty much in alignment on this one.

00:21:44.860 But what are the people that, you know, that are on the left, not not the politicians, the people that, you know, are they against this?

00:21:54.220 You know, they I think that they've actually started to convince themselves that a concept like one race is not superior to another race is actually a racist concept.

00:22:04.800 I really think that they have bought into this ideology.

00:22:07.420 I don't understand it.

00:22:08.680 I mean, the reading of the bill, just the plain language that you just read is very, very clear in what you can and cannot teach.

00:22:15.400 And for me, this is what I was taught growing up, that you don't treat people differently because of their race or sex.

00:22:21.140 It's just this is common sense.

00:22:22.480 This is all common sense.

00:22:24.680 This is all what we've been striving for.

00:22:26.800 Had we done this at the beginning of the the the country, you wouldn't have had slavery.

00:22:34.080 You wouldn't have had all the problems that we have right now.

00:22:36.560 How how is this how is this bill bad?

00:22:41.920 If this bill can't get passed, you reverse everything.

00:22:46.240 The civil rights movement tried to teach all of us.

00:22:49.740 That's exactly right, Glenn.

00:22:51.100 And a lot of people in New Hampshire think that this bill isn't needed in New Hampshire.

00:22:54.860 But the matter is this this training is happening all over the place.

00:22:59.060 It's happened at the University of New Hampshire.

00:23:00.860 We just found out last week that the school districts in Manchester, New Hampshire, the largest school district, I believe, in the state has done anti-whiteness training.

00:23:08.700 It's happening in the Bedford schools.

00:23:10.360 It's happening in the Concord schools.

00:23:11.660 It's happening at Southern New Hampshire University.

00:23:13.380 It's happening all over the place, right in front of people.

00:23:16.780 And they still are convinced that something like this isn't necessary.

00:23:19.660 Well, you are somebody that goes into organizations.

00:23:21.800 You're you're somebody who goes into to corporations and tries to help make those corporations better.

00:23:28.340 I bet your business isn't going well, seeing that you won't be involved with critical race theory and are standing against it.

00:23:35.000 But, you know, that businesses are having to do these.

00:23:40.400 They're they're doing them all over the country.

00:23:43.620 That well, that's exactly right.

00:23:45.220 And they're being forced into a position of doing them by their H.R. team and by their employees.

00:23:49.400 And, you know, I'll tell you what is my is my training business going well?

00:23:52.600 Not exactly, because, as you said, I refuse to pander to this ideology.

00:23:56.040 But I'll tell you what is going well is my coaching business, where I'm coaching executives through exactly how to deal with this in their organizations, because executives don't want to do it.

00:24:05.640 And they feel like they're being forced into a position of needing to based on what their employees are asking of them.

00:24:11.680 How do you do it quickly?

00:24:12.740 Because I've got to run.

00:24:13.600 But how do you how does an executive do it?

00:24:16.540 Well, I would look at an executive like Coinbase's CEO that says that this is not a part of our business.

00:24:21.580 We're going to be focusing on our core business initiatives.

00:24:23.820 And if you don't like it, here's a nice severance package and you can leave.

00:24:27.820 And when Coinbase's CEO did that, only five percent of their employees took that severance package.

00:24:33.340 And so that's that is a fair price for to get toxic employees out of your organization that are only going to drag your organization down.

00:24:40.860 That is the best strategy so far.

00:24:42.940 Really good.

00:24:43.520 Thank you very much.

00:24:45.300 Keith Hammond is with us.

00:24:46.300 He is a Republican, the New Hampshire state representative.

00:24:49.580 And he's talking about HB 544.

00:24:55.720 He is one of the sponsors on that.

00:24:58.520 Keith, when you were putting this together, did you think you'd have a hard time getting this through?

00:25:04.800 We we knew this would be controversial.

00:25:07.660 Part of your job as a legislature, as a member of the legislature, is to be a lightning rod for discussions like this, in my opinion.

00:25:18.260 So, you know, we knew it would be controversial and it's gotten more timely.

00:25:22.840 We filed the bill back in November.

00:25:25.580 I think we were the first state to do it.

00:25:27.380 And our process is just now working its way through to handle this bill.

00:25:33.060 And it's gotten more topical as time has gone on.

00:25:38.480 So tell me about the argument on free speech.

00:25:43.400 Yeah, that's a very interesting one.

00:25:45.100 That's been I think Carlin, we heard, went over the different objections and one by one, those kind of disappeared.

00:25:55.120 And it focused on this free speech argument.

00:25:58.380 What's really interesting about our legislature is we have 400 members and they're from all walks of life.

00:26:04.860 And it just so happens that one of our former chief justices of our Supreme Court, our state Supreme Court, is now a freshman representative.

00:26:15.560 Well, is this Robert Lynn?

00:26:17.680 That's right.

00:26:18.400 Robert Lynn.

00:26:20.220 And so he weighed in on his opinion on the free speech issue and decisively with, you know, citing cases and citing different references.

00:26:28.200 And the gist of his argument against that it violates free speech is that, you know, the free speech right is an individual right.

00:26:39.900 It doesn't apply to government.

00:26:41.360 Government doesn't have a free speech right.

00:26:44.380 People that work for the government when they're operating under the authority of the government don't have that right in the course of their employment.

00:26:53.740 But as individuals, we all have that right.

00:26:55.940 So I thought that was a very interesting take on, you know, whether it violates free speech.

00:27:01.700 All right.

00:27:01.880 So if the individual and we we see this, you know, practice, in fact, that's what they're hunting in the Pentagon now is anybody who was online saying anything that they shouldn't have said.

00:27:12.720 And if you're a military member, you're not supposed to be involved in any kind of discussion on on policies, et cetera, et cetera.

00:27:20.100 And so we've seen that before and the left seems to accept that they won't accept it when it comes to, you know, school teachers and university professors and everything else.

00:27:32.380 But would it protect them if they were saying if the curriculum was not there, but they were teaching it anyway?

00:27:40.500 Or is it tied to their job?

00:27:44.980 Yeah.

00:27:45.180 So it's tied to your job.

00:27:46.520 Like if the bill really addresses anything taxpayer funded.

00:27:49.980 So if taxpayer money is funding some kind of training that deals with diversity, it doesn't ban diversity training.

00:27:55.900 And what it does is it puts guidelines on what types of trainings are acceptable and obviously ones that violate that list that you read, you know, wouldn't be acceptable if this bill is passed.

00:28:08.480 The interesting thing about the genesis of this bill is it came from a university professor in one of our state institutions.

00:28:16.180 Uh, and that person wanted to remain anonymous, but they're seeing it in their place of employment, you know, creeping in and it's very difficult to push back against it.

00:28:27.780 So that is one of the, that's one of the things that, um, I noticed in reading about the bill is that there are a lot of people that are asking to be kept out of this, but they are standing up at least quietly, but they're all terrified of the blowback.

00:28:44.880 Like that should not happen in America.

00:28:48.600 It should not, it should not.

00:28:50.040 And so, you know, if anyone's listening in other States, contact your state legislators, because that's where this battle needs to go next is to our state houses.

00:28:59.040 Uh, but you have, you have a Republican, uh, in Chris Sununu.

00:29:04.980 I mean, it's the Sununu family.

00:29:06.500 So I use Republican in, you know, the lightest of terms.

00:29:11.360 Um, what is, how, how is he?

00:29:14.880 Are you rejecting this?

00:29:16.400 Is he going to sign it or will he reject it?

00:29:19.460 So thou shalt not violate the 11th commandment.

00:29:22.640 Um, you know, we're, we're both Republicans.

00:29:25.120 We're in different branches of the government and it's okay to have policy differences and discuss those.

00:29:30.500 Right.

00:29:30.840 So that's what I'll, I'll, I'll do here.

00:29:32.740 Um, I think what happened was he got blindsided in a, uh, in a press conference about COVID.

00:29:41.100 I think it was, you know, they asked him a question about this bill and it may have been at that time that he had only heard of it on NHPR when they were, uh, you know, kind of slamming it about the free speech issue.

00:29:53.620 Right.

00:29:54.500 Um, and so that kind of locked in his position.

00:29:57.640 So I, I think we'll be able to work.

00:30:00.100 You know, there's more than one way to skin a cat and, uh, I'll, I'll, I'll put that teaser out there, but I think we'll be able to get something accomplished.

00:30:08.780 This term, uh, regarding that language in 544.

00:30:12.980 Well, I wish you luck.

00:30:14.160 And I hope that others do take, um, this, um, this bill it's again, HB 544 from the state of New Hampshire.

00:30:22.880 Look it up, read it yourself.

00:30:24.800 I mean, I kind of, uh, in some ways I think of the old days when they would take these, uh, bills and make them into broadsides and, and, uh, nail them to trees and people would gather around and read them.

00:30:38.180 Trying to get people to read this has got to be almost impossible, but you need to read it because you can ask your friends, what part of this do you disagree with?

00:30:48.600 And bring it to your state, bring it to your state representative or your state Senator and say, we need this in, in our state, because this is a poison that is being spread.

00:31:01.040 Uh, it's called critical race theory and it is everywhere, everywhere.

00:31:06.340 Thank you so much.

00:31:07.760 Uh, Keith, appreciate it.

00:31:09.900 Thank you.

00:31:10.760 You bet.

00:31:11.700 Uh, I'm going to, uh, I'm going to go over what Cigna is.

00:31:17.400 Um, this is, um, this is the nation's largest health insurance provider.

00:31:21.900 They're having a critical race, uh, theory training and, uh, some employees took some pictures of, uh, some of the training.

00:31:34.540 They'll say like, don't text things.

00:31:36.400 You don't want to become public.

00:31:37.860 Yeah.

00:31:38.200 These, these companies are going to start learning this eventually, but they'll still get filmed doing it.

00:31:42.320 It's, it's really, but what people have to understand is the companies are not doing this

00:31:46.520 because they actually believe in it.

00:31:48.900 This is all part of the great reset.

00:31:52.100 They're doing it because they're going to start getting, um, uh, ESG ratings.

00:32:00.360 And if you invest it all in the stock market, you're 401k or anything, especially Charles Schwab.

00:32:07.500 I think bank of America has just started this as well.

00:32:12.320 All the banks have it on all the investment firms have it, but what it is is to help you invest because we know you want to be socially minded.

00:32:22.720 And so they're getting an ESG score, environment, social justice, and governance score.

00:32:31.520 So do they work with their government?

00:32:33.760 Do they work with their local government?

00:32:35.700 Can they justify their business license?

00:32:38.160 Really?

00:32:39.280 How are they doing on the environment?

00:32:41.020 What are they doing?

00:32:41.700 And are they teaching critical race theory?

00:32:43.640 When that score goes down, Merrill Lynch and, and other groups then tell their investors, uh, you might not want to get in with this group because they have a very low ESG score.

00:32:59.100 This is why this is happening.

00:33:01.320 They have to do it.

00:33:02.740 If they want to play ball, they think, but they're wrong, dead wrong.

00:33:09.120 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:33:23.140 Aaron Kinsvater.

00:33:25.040 He is a counseling professor at the university of Vermont and the students want him to resign because he had concerns.

00:33:33.960 Uh, his concerns were put together on a video and he released it.

00:33:40.460 It's really, uh, really well thought out, really articulate.

00:33:47.980 Uh, and in my opinion, not controversial.

00:33:52.280 Uh, he's expressing an opinion.

00:33:54.340 If you don't like it, go pound sand, you know, make a video yourself.

00:33:57.940 Uh, but they want to silence him.

00:33:59.840 Um, and we asked him to be on the program.

00:34:03.320 We're thrilled to have him on.

00:34:04.860 Hello, professor.

00:34:05.460 How are you?

00:34:06.860 Hello, Mr. Beck.

00:34:07.780 I'm very well.

00:34:08.380 Thank you.

00:34:08.860 Good.

00:34:09.560 Um, so first of all, what do you teach at the university?

00:34:13.560 Uh, I teach, uh, psychotherapy.

00:34:16.740 So, uh, I help to prepare people who are going to, uh, be helping adults, uh, who are in mental distress.

00:34:24.980 And, uh, I also help to prepare, uh, counselors who are going to be working in the schools, who are going to be, um, working with children who are, uh, experiencing, uh, distress as well.

00:34:38.820 So, it's not that I would dismiss, you know, uh, uh, you know, a professor of mathematics if he had the same view, but this is really in your alley.

00:34:48.240 Is it not?

00:34:49.680 It most certainly is.

00:34:51.700 It most certainly is.

00:34:52.920 And the, um, the encroachment of, uh, critical race theory into, uh, psychotherapy is, is truly, uh, frightening in its implications for, uh, the mental health of both, uh, children and adults.

00:35:14.280 Tell me why.

00:35:14.680 Well, um, there, there are two different reasons, uh, for, uh, children, children need a particular environment in which to flourish.

00:35:28.020 And it's, it's, it's an environment where no conditions are placed upon their sense of self-worth.

00:35:35.520 Now, obviously there are, uh, rules that they need to learn and so forth, but you don't, you don't, um, you don't convey to a child that they are, uh, uh, good or bad.

00:35:54.480 Based on what they, um, what they do and this ideology, and in particular, uh, Kendi's version of anti-racism, um, uh, establishes very, uh, strict parameters, uh, of, of, uh, viewing oneself and other people as either good or evil.

00:36:20.780 Uh, but in, in, in Kendi's language, he's using the term racist or anti-racist, but it's, it's essentially a good, you're either good or evil morality, uh, ideology.

00:36:33.940 And it's not, there's, there's no, uh, I mean, to me, it's teaching our children that you don't have a chance if you're, if you're white now, you really don't have a chance because you're part of, you know, team evil. 0.94

00:36:48.840 And if you are, if you are a person of color, well, they're teaching you, you really don't have a chance unless we all get together and stop these people on team evil. 0.96

00:37:01.920 So it, it, it, it's just crushing you, the individual, is it not?

00:37:07.060 It, it, it, it most certainly is.

00:37:09.760 It, it, it, it is saying that, uh, in, in order to be, um, an acceptable person, you must first claim fealty to this ideology.

00:37:21.180 And I would just add to that, that, um, for, for, for children of color, black children, uh, they are not safe from this either.

00:37:30.280 Because if, if, if they don't, if they don't, uh, toe this line, then they have, there are lots of interesting names that are being created within academia, um, for them.

00:37:42.940 The most, uh, the, the, the one that I've just heard recently that's come out is, uh, multiracial whiteness.

00:37:51.360 And it's a way to take a person of color, uh, or a black person and say, well, you're just white. 0.51

00:37:57.840 And, and, uh, which, which is meant to be an insult from that perspective.

00:38:03.800 So I, I don't, I don't even know if this is, I, this conversation can get derailed by, uh, thinking of this in terms of a white thing or a black thing.

00:38:18.720 What this, what this really is, is this is a racist thing.

00:38:22.580 It's racism and, and, and racism is contagious and it, it, it, it once, all it needs is a foothold in an air of legitimacy and then it will flow out into society and, and be adopted, uh, widely to the detriment of every, uh, person.

00:38:44.340 And the university of Vermont right now is giving, uh, the habits of mind that inform racism.

00:38:52.980 They are, the administration is presenting this as a form of intellectual refinement.

00:38:59.880 And right now, uh, it gains legitimacy by saying, well, we're focusing on whiteness, but you know, no, no habit of mind that is so crude and so destructive is going to stay focused on whiteness. 0.50

00:39:17.300 This is going to find its way to the doorstep of persons who have the least amount of power in society to defend themselves from it.

00:39:26.820 And, uh, give me an example of that.

00:39:29.040 What do you mean by that?

00:39:30.460 Well, that, uh, that, that people who, um, uh, new Americans, for example, in Burlington, uh, don't speak the language.

00:39:40.500 Uh, they don't, um, uh, they're not familiar with our culture.

00:39:45.560 They're just coming in.

00:39:46.720 They're coming in from war torn countries. 0.63

00:39:48.820 Those people, uh, need a liberal society, one in which they are protected, uh, from, uh, from, uh, you know, uh, ridiculous views and categorizations about who they are.

00:40:07.100 And, uh, traditional liberalism that looks at people as, uh, individuals and that insists that any claims about individuals be subjected to skepticism and empiricism helps to protect even the least powerful among us.

00:40:26.920 Uh, when we start making unsubstantiated claims about a link between a particular race and, uh, you know, vaguely defined social ills, it tends to find its way, uh, down to the people who are not in a position to protect themselves.

00:40:48.540 Uh, I hate to bring it here, but I'm, uh, I, unfortunately I'm going to the, um, I, I, I'm, uh, you know, historian wannabe and I collect a lot of, uh, a lot of documents, uh, and, uh, I collect a lot of the dark side stuff about America and the world.

00:41:08.380 And, um, um, I have the teacher's manuals from Germany that teach how the Jews are subhuman and, and, and, and, and how the children are to treat those Jews. 0.85

00:41:25.500 Uh, and I see a lot of similarities here.

00:41:29.060 Uh, you know, we had that study was in the 1960s, maybe 1960, where the classroom was told we're going to do blue eyes and brown eyes.

00:41:37.860 And by the time they went out for recess, they were, they were already in separate groups.

00:41:43.700 I mean, this is what we're doing, isn't it?

00:41:46.860 It is.

00:41:48.320 And the thing is, Glenn, like even, even two years ago, I would have said, Oh no, you know, we're not to that point yet.

00:42:00.020 But I think we are dangerously, dangerously close to coming, uh, uh, to a point, uh, that you're talking about with these teaching manuals.

00:42:11.660 I haven't had, I have been wanting to go back and look at what this looked like when it happened in Germany, because I, I'm, I'm absolutely convinced that the thought processes,

00:42:24.440 the habits of mind and yeah, and the dehumanization are the same.

00:42:31.040 I think where people keep getting derailed, um, in, in recognizing this as, uh, as much of a problem as it is, is that they, they think of this in terms of, um, well, this is just, you know, this is just society talking back to the powerful, but they, they have to realize.

00:42:51.620 And what they mean by that is, you know, that, that, that white people are considered to exist higher on, uh, on this intersectional ladder.

00:43:02.540 But this, this way, this way of thinking is so contagious and it's, you know, I'm sure that there are good intentions behind, uh, you know, turning towards whiteness, but it would take, it would take virtually no time at all for the conversation. 0.97

00:43:19.960 And I'm even hearing whispers about this now to where now Asian people are part of the problem because look, they're even more successful, uh, than white people are yet.

00:43:30.420 You're beginning to hear whispers of that.

00:43:34.620 We're with, uh, Aaron Kinsvater, uh, a professor who is in trouble at his university.

00:43:40.420 How much trouble, first of all, are you in?

00:43:42.060 Uh, I don't know.

00:43:45.320 Um, it's, um, it, it, it, it's hard to say how or if, uh, this situation will escalate.

00:43:55.380 Um, what I can say now.

00:43:57.740 Being on the Glenn Beck program is not going to help you.

00:44:00.440 Well, I, I, I, what, one of the things that I appreciate about you, Mr. Beck, is that, that I do think that you are someone who, uh, has spoken, uh, to both sides of the political aisle.

00:44:16.900 And it doesn't mean that you have to think about, uh, you don't have to believe what people on the other side of the aisle believe, but you, you do send out, uh, a message of unity.

00:44:27.860 And I, um, people are talking about our, our great, uh, polarization in this country right now.

00:44:36.320 I'm, I'm starting to think that it's going to be like, uh, people like you and I, who are, uh, talking to our, our neighbors and our friends and sitting down and saying, let's, let's have a conversation about our differences.

00:44:50.280 That is going to lead us forward rather than the, um, you know, rather than institutions that are putting on programs like turning towards whiteness. 0.67

00:44:58.840 Oh yeah.

00:44:59.180 The, the, the, I will tell you that it's going to take the low, it's going to take local effort and it's going to take person to person just reaching out and going, come on.

00:45:06.820 I mean, cause you said in your speech, uh, let me see if I can find it here real quick.

00:45:10.840 You said, um, about unity that, that we have a lot in, uh, common.

00:45:17.120 And you said, we, we all share the same values.

00:45:20.160 We all want the same thing for our university and our society.

00:45:23.660 Is that true?

00:45:26.260 Well, not at the university of Vermont.

00:45:29.180 Uh, but I do think that that I am absolutely convinced that this is true among most people, but at the university of Vermont, their response, uh, uh, to me, the provost response was to say, uh, my values, uh,

00:45:47.120 uh, do not represent the values of the university and, um, uh, uh, and then, uh, encouraged, uh, to some degree, uh, members of the university and including colleagues in my department in their, um, in, in the steps that they were taking to, uh, ostracize me.

00:46:13.520 So that, that was a pretty shocking response from the, uh, provost of the university.

00:46:20.100 Um, let me give you this.

00:46:21.920 This is from the, the vice president of the school board in San Francisco.

00:46:27.160 Uh, I can't remember her name.

00:46:29.020 Her last name is Collins.

00:46:30.480 Uh, she just spoke about Asians, uh, Asian Americans.

00:46:34.020 She said, uh, many Asian Americans believe they benefit from the model minority BS.

00:46:40.400 In fact, many Asian American teachers, students, and parents actively promote these myths.

00:46:46.440 They use white supremacist thinking to assimilate and get ahead.

00:46:52.200 Oh, boy.

00:46:53.760 That, that, that has just got to stop.

00:46:56.980 I, the, the use of, I mean, we can talk about why this is so effective, but I, I, I think that one thing that the average,

00:47:06.860 I, I realize that not everyone has time to sit down and, and study these matters, but people have must, must absolutely understand that the people who are saying things like that tend to be master manipulators.

00:47:25.040 And so when they are, uh, deciding what to name things, um, they, uh, they, they name them in such a way that, uh, it, it pushes, uh, the part of our psychology that responds to guilty feelings.

00:47:46.480 Uh, which is a very, very effective manipulation technique.

00:47:53.200 And when someone says, uh, I cannot believe that the, the, how ubiquitous this is.

00:48:00.360 And, um, and white supremacy is a good example of that.

00:48:04.860 Now, no reasonable person, uh, would, would, um, uh, not say that white supremacy as it was at a time where one particular race was holding itself above another was not a bad thing.

00:48:24.180 And so what, what people who are using terms like this have done is to say, we understand now that the very worst thing that you can call someone is a racist or a white supremacist.

00:48:36.840 So we're going to change what that means in order to guilt people into putting, into not putting up too much of a fight.

00:48:45.000 Okay.

00:48:45.640 When we ask that they adopt these other ideologies.

00:48:48.880 A professor from the university of Vermont, his name is Aaron Kinsvater.

00:48:52.980 I will tell you, uh, you're braver than I even thought you were.

00:48:56.520 Um, that is fantastic.

00:48:58.020 Uh, please stay in touch with me.

00:48:59.500 Anything we can do to help you, uh, you please let me know.

00:49:03.300 Thank you.

00:49:04.480 Just keep reaching across the aisle, Glenn.

00:49:06.680 You got it.

The Glenn Beck Program - March 22, 2021

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