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00:00:40.500 Okay, so on today's podcast, we've got three topics that we want to hit.

00:00:44.280 The first one is about the economy.

00:00:46.680 And we had a guy on, he's from the Von Mises Institute.

00:00:49.560 He took the theory of skyscrapers when a record skyscraper is built, the economy crashes.

00:01:01.000 And he looked and went back in history to the beginning of skyscrapers really in the late 1800s

00:01:06.160 and tried to find, is that true?

00:01:10.500 He found the pattern to be true. 0.80

00:01:12.880 And then he explains why.

00:01:15.740 Now that was fascinating.

00:01:17.120 But the biggest skyscraper breaking all records was supposed to have its ribbon cut in November.

00:01:25.100 It's going to be cut now, but he says it's already there.

00:01:29.680 We are already now in the skyscraper curse.

00:01:32.520 When we asked him, how bad do you think it's going to be, category of storm, he said category six.

00:01:40.280 When I followed it up and said, what would you describe the Great Depression as?

00:01:46.020 You need to hear the answer.

00:01:48.080 Amazing.

00:01:48.780 We also talked to a former Border Patrol chief.

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00:02:00.300 Trump is completely right on the wall.

00:02:02.220 We need it.

00:02:03.500 That's great.

00:02:04.300 We also have Andrew Heaton as well.

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00:03:21.260 So when I was at Fox, I told you the Arab Spring would spread. 0.98

00:03:25.340 It would destabilize the Middle East, bringing the rise of a new caliphate, and then it would spread to Europe. 0.95

00:03:31.860 Members of the right and the left would use that chaos to their own advantage, and it would eventually spread to the United States.

00:03:38.720 Well, that is done now.

00:03:41.220 I mean, we are talking about the border.

00:03:43.940 What is it that Hillary Clinton just went over to Europe and said was the biggest problem with the destabilization of Europe?

00:03:51.260 Migrants. 0.98

00:03:54.040 Yeah.

00:03:54.500 Remember?

00:03:54.840 Which is amazing for her to admit.

00:03:56.320 Right.

00:03:56.700 They caused it.

00:03:58.000 Those migrants came from the Arab Spring and the Caliphate. 0.59

00:04:01.940 So you had a crisis.

00:04:03.820 You had to get them out.

00:04:05.020 What are we debating now?

00:04:06.680 We're debating a crisis and immigration.

00:04:11.200 So the left tells Europe, wow, you guys shouldn't have done that.

00:04:15.340 But they're still telling America, you should do that.

00:04:19.200 Doesn't make any sense.

00:04:21.260 So that's complete now.

00:04:23.160 So what happens next?

00:04:27.980 In this year of shows, we're going to be concentrating on eight categories, and I want to spend some time today working on these eight categories and explaining them to you.

00:04:37.960 And then we're going to take phone calls for the TV show today.

00:04:40.980 So if you have any questions or ideas or thoughts, please share them at 888-727-BECK for TV at 5 o'clock.

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00:04:59.300 All right.

00:05:00.920 So what's going to happen next?

00:05:04.380 Well, I don't think any of these things are going to come as a surprise to you.

00:05:08.500 But it's what we need to concentrate on.

00:05:11.800 The polarization is going to get worse.

00:05:15.100 This is the political polarization, not just here in America, but all around the world.

00:05:20.580 The polarization is going to get worse, and it's going to cause more riots in the streets, more unrest, civil unrest is coming.

00:05:31.380 And you're going to see, again, the left and the right coming together because their purposes will be to collapse things.

00:05:40.420 So polarization is going to get worse.

00:05:42.680 The economies will then nosedive.

00:05:44.960 Now, these could be out of order.

00:05:46.720 The economies could nosedive, and then polarization gets worse.

00:05:51.940 But the financial system is going to be in danger again.

00:05:55.140 Some countries will collapse, like Germany collapsed in the 1930s.

00:05:59.420 Oil and the petrodollar will be weakened, putting countries like Saudi Arabia and Russia into economic chaos.

00:06:06.500 And as this happens, you add in to it tech causing downward pressure on jobs and wages and communications and education.

00:06:16.720 And this will add more pressure on countries like the United States and China.

00:06:22.420 And at some point, because of all of these things, people will no longer believe in any system.

00:06:28.880 The government, the tech sector, press, all of it will be discredited.

00:06:34.940 That's when things get really dicey.

00:06:38.180 And that's when things like the government and tech begin to merge with each other.

00:06:47.660 Now, I've laid out on the last three radio shows the sectors that we're going to be watching.

00:06:54.980 And because they're all dominoes, and I want to go over some of them with you.

00:06:59.980 Because I want to ask you, if you have experience or you would consider yourself well-informed on a few topics,

00:07:13.420 and you could help us look for stories and connections, we need you to do that.

00:07:20.320 And you can sign up and be part of our team, if you will, at research at glennbeck.com.

00:07:27.820 That's research at glennbeck.com.

00:07:29.980 And we'll give you some of these categories.

00:07:32.120 But, for instance, I'm not an expert on AI, but I am very well read on it.

00:07:39.000 And if I were just a listener, I'd be like, oh, no, I know a lot of stuff.

00:07:44.040 And I watch that sector.

00:07:45.820 You know, I can contribute stories because I see stories that are never making it into the mainstream.

00:07:50.920 And I understand how that connects to the future.

00:07:54.640 You know, I am very fascinated with Russia.

00:07:56.840 And so I watch that, and I see things that are never in mainstream.

00:08:02.800 We want you to be a part of the team that just would contribute things to us from time to time so it's on our radar.

00:08:08.560 And, again, you can do that by sending stories to research at glennbeck.com.

00:08:14.760 I want to give you a story that happened yesterday that explains exactly why all of these need to be watched.

00:08:26.840 And how any of these eight different categories can tie in and be the catalyst for collapse and true chaos, global chaos, and global war.

00:08:43.440 I'm going to give you a story that just was announced or just happened yesterday during this show.

00:08:49.200 If you've been following the French Yellow Vest protests, well, let me just assume that maybe you haven't.

00:08:55.680 The Yellow Vest protests started just recently because the Yellow Vests were upset about a fuel tax.

00:09:07.240 That fuel tax was being imposed on the citizens of France, and it was to pay for all the global warming nonsense.

00:09:15.940 Well, the people were for the global warming, you know, we've got to stop global warming.

00:09:20.480 But then once that tax actually hit them, they were like, well, no, wait a minute, hang on, just a second, you know, tax us.

00:09:28.420 And so they wanted that tax removed.

00:09:30.380 And so they started these Yellow Vest, what are called Yellow Vest protests.

00:09:36.140 And about a thousand people have been injured, hundreds have been arrested, several people have died.

00:09:43.080 It's been ugly in France.

00:09:46.460 Well, Macron came out and he said, okay, we're taking away the tax.

00:09:51.520 Well, that just showed the people on the streets, the radicals, not the average people, but the radicals that were leading it.

00:10:01.380 Ah, they blinked.

00:10:03.300 We can get them.

00:10:04.140 Now, I want you to think of the people who are wearing the Yellow Vests. 0.98

00:10:07.120 Most of them are just like you.

00:10:10.800 The ones who are leading it are more like Antifa, more like Occupy Wall Street.

00:10:17.020 What's happened is, after he blinked, the left and the right got together.

00:10:25.240 Again, not coordinated, they're not on each other's side, but they both want to tear the system down.

00:10:31.680 I mean, because you say the leadership's like Occupy Wall Street, but one of the big things they thought about initially was repealing the horrible gas tax that was bankrupting a bunch of French citizens.

00:10:43.760 Because they were paying triple, basically, the old gas prices.

00:10:46.800 Correct.

00:10:47.240 So it was not necessarily just a left-wing movement to start.

00:10:51.020 It's that the people are now seeing that opportunity and grabbing control, right?

00:10:56.240 Correct.

00:10:56.760 Correct.

00:10:57.380 So now what you have here is a movement that is now being copied all over Europe.

00:11:03.280 This is happening in Sweden.

00:11:05.080 This is happening in Germany.

00:11:06.480 This is happening in Belgium.

00:11:07.700 It's happening all over Europe.

00:11:09.300 It was happening in England.

00:11:10.460 This is a national movement in France that now has 70% approval rating.

00:11:18.280 Well, yesterday, they announced that they want to collapse the bank and they want to collapse the euro.

00:11:25.320 And so they are asking this weekend to go in, have French citizens go in and take at least 20% of their cash out of their bank. 0.53

00:11:37.940 If there was a movement here in America that had a 70% approval rating and they could convince 70% of 50% of this population to take 20% of their money out of banks, that would be a real, real problem for America.

00:12:02.460 This could be one of the things that collapses the euro, that collapses the economy over in Europe.

00:12:12.100 I don't know if it will be, but this one story has everything in it that I'm looking for and is a good explainer on how these things can happen.

00:12:25.620 Political polarization, the distance between the media and the government, that friction between them has caused polarization.

00:12:39.760 They don't trust their government anymore.

00:12:42.580 They don't trust the banking system anymore.

00:12:45.180 They don't trust any politician anymore.

00:12:48.640 So it has bubbled over and it went into street riots.

00:12:51.940 Then they're using this power to buckle the economy. 0.97

00:12:56.640 This could bring the entire system down.

00:13:01.260 But what happens next?

00:13:04.960 Let me focus on that and the eight categories that you need to be aware of.

00:13:10.040 We're talking about what is coming in, how we want to focus this show.

00:13:15.760 And I want to bring you in quickly on what we're looking for, because I look at you as a partner on being able to chart a course for either the greatest freedom, health, and wealth the world has ever seen in this next page and chapter of human history.

00:13:35.620 That I think we are now on the bridge.

00:13:37.980 We are in a year from now.

00:13:39.680 You're going to be standing on the other side of the bridge and you're going to everybody's going to see this, I think, clearly.

00:13:44.900 But we're moving so fast and we're not educating or even including the average citizen in some big topics.

00:13:51.800 We're all just concentrating on what CNN said and what Fox do and what did Trump tweet.

00:13:57.840 That's meaningless stuff.

00:13:59.800 So I want to give you eight categories that we are going to really focus on and try to put the world into context and show you what leads to a collapse and totalitarianism and what leads to freedom.

00:14:12.900 So the first category we talked about was civility and chaos.

00:14:16.700 It's important to look for, you know, the goodness index and charity and faith and religion where it's working.

00:14:24.500 But it's also really important to look at civil unrest and war and instability and those who are preaching chaos.

00:14:33.180 For instance, Iran and Russia, now Cuba and Venezuela, politics of meaning, things that really, truly matter.

00:14:44.700 Tweets don't matter.

00:14:46.100 Tweets do not matter.

00:14:47.960 But what the president is doing with the trade war in China matters, but not for reasons that most people even understand.

00:14:55.740 That arrest in Canada of the Chinese CEO, that was the thing that opened it up for me and I went, oh, my gosh, this is what's really going on.

00:15:09.940 And you need to understand that.

00:15:12.600 Also, money and how money is going to change, how jobs and employment is going to change.

00:15:19.200 Our debt, our personal debt, our credit card debt, European debt, banking, banking scandals, the way governments are going to start trapping people's money.

00:15:31.780 I bet you don't even know that your money has really been trapped.

00:15:34.940 If the bank collapses here in America, you're not getting your money out.

00:15:38.480 They're going to give it to you.

00:15:39.680 You know, the government will guarantee it.

00:15:41.240 But you're not getting your money out because the banks have changed the rules.

00:15:44.700 I think you watch this weekend to see if France starts to trap people's savings and their checking accounts in their banks this weekend.

00:15:55.200 The next category would be education.

00:15:57.920 What are the jobs of the future?

00:15:59.840 What are the education alternatives?

00:16:02.360 How about entrepreneurship, home education, the goals of Common Core?

00:16:07.860 Common Core changed names, but the goals remain.

00:16:12.560 Medicine.

00:16:13.120 Medicine, we have to look at it in a couple of ways, both positive and negative.

00:16:18.120 Socialized medicine versus the free market.

00:16:20.680 New ideas on how to provide health care cheaper.

00:16:24.000 High-tech health care.

00:16:26.040 Things that we have to decide whether they're good or bad.

00:16:30.480 For instance, Humana Health Care.

00:16:32.260 Giving away a free Apple Watch if you just sign up.

00:16:35.340 Well, that's great.

00:16:36.600 Well, what they want is the information from your wrist.

00:16:40.340 Are you exercising?

00:16:41.940 Are you standing when it says stand?

00:16:44.660 Are you moving?

00:16:46.460 And that will become more and more intrusive.

00:16:49.320 Well, it's good for the free market.

00:16:51.500 Is it good for your privacy?

00:16:53.440 Also, with things like CRISPR and the complete live system.

00:16:57.560 That is coming, and we're already seeing it in Great Britain.

00:17:01.040 We have to talk about ethics.

00:17:03.600 Ethics also plays a big role in the next category, and that is high-tech. 0.67

00:17:08.780 Surveillance.

00:17:09.580 AI, AGI, ASI.

00:17:11.380 The game changers.

00:17:13.020 The biggest game changer on the near horizon is 5G.

00:17:17.900 When that happens, you better understand why that's a game changer.

00:17:23.940 And that plays right into China.

00:17:27.200 But things like empathy with technology.

00:17:32.120 Which are the first jobs to go?

00:17:34.660 By 2020, you're going to start seeing sincere, significant job losses, permanent job losses.

00:17:41.160 For instance, in trucking, media is the next topic.

00:17:46.700 The old versus the new.

00:17:48.320 This is where the disenfranchisement really happens.

00:17:51.640 What is the old media talking about?

00:17:53.660 And what are people actually talking about?

00:17:57.060 The deplatforming and digital ghettoization of the politically incorrect, which leads to the last topic.

00:18:03.220 And that is something I call the United Corporations of America.

00:18:06.720 Google, Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft.

00:18:09.980 Who are they buying?

00:18:11.480 Who are they destroying?

00:18:12.820 What are they building?

00:18:14.220 Who are they hiring?

00:18:15.600 Who are they merging with?

00:18:16.980 What are they lobbying for right now?

00:18:19.880 I think it's really important that the people who are for net neutrality, did you know that it was Google that wrote that law?

00:18:28.540 Why would Google be interested in that?

00:18:31.720 Are they really just for you?

00:18:34.740 What are their actions overseas, especially in China?

00:18:37.940 Who are they silencing and deplatforming online?

00:18:41.140 And who's advising them on what hate speech really is?

00:18:45.480 The creepy line, the partnership with government.

00:18:49.760 Those are the things that we have to concentrate on.

00:18:52.940 We're not going to give you all of the day-to-day little things,

00:18:58.720 other than like what we just did with Donald Trump walking out of the meeting yesterday.

00:19:05.060 We could dissect that for an hour.

00:19:07.900 But is it worth more if you're looking for meaning?

00:19:11.340 Is it worth more than this explanation?

00:19:14.360 Pat, welcome to the program.

00:19:16.300 You walk into a store, you're buying a house, and you walk into the real estate agent,

00:19:22.220 and they have a whole list that, oh, I've got so many houses to show you today.

00:19:27.500 Good.

00:19:28.180 Do you have houses that are all under a million?

00:19:30.560 No, I don't have a single house that's, you know, they're all three million plus.

00:19:36.580 Are you somehow or another being insincere by not saying, well, I can't afford that.

00:19:46.740 I told you specifically we wanted a house under a million dollars.

00:19:51.540 I'm leaving.

00:19:52.840 Is that somehow wrong?

00:19:54.500 No.

00:19:54.620 So how is it wrong that the president said, this is a condition, I must have a wall.

00:20:01.640 Now, we can talk about everything else, but in the end, I must have a wall.

00:20:06.080 And if you say no, well, why should he waste any time?

00:20:11.880 Which is what he said.

00:20:13.040 Right.

00:20:13.380 It's a complete waste of time.

00:20:14.400 Right.

00:20:14.580 That's not a temper tantrum.

00:20:15.820 No.

00:20:16.040 That's what you do in your life.

00:20:18.480 That's politics of meaning.

00:20:19.820 Those are the ways we need to start looking at things this year and having conversations.

00:20:28.640 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:20:37.080 So I have always been fascinated by the skyscraper curse, and it is, I've never really looked into it like you did.

00:20:46.580 Your book is absolutely fascinating.

00:20:48.560 Can you explain what the theory is first?

00:20:53.380 Well, the basic theory is that when a record-setting skyscraper is built anywhere in the world, by the time it's completed and ready to open, the world is going to be experiencing an economic crisis.

00:21:09.780 And so the curse is the economic crisis that is associated with the building of a record-setting skyscraper.

00:21:16.940 Now, if I'm not mistaken, it was the Woolworth building around 19, what was it, 14, 15, something like that, that did not, does not fall into that category.

00:21:30.680 And that was the world's first real kind of skyscraper.

00:21:33.420 Well, you know, we've been building taller and taller for about 150 years, and the skyscraper curse occurred earlier during the panic of 1907.

00:21:45.000 But as the Woolworth building was being built, and it was being redesigned to go even higher to set the record, and then when it set the record in 1913, there was no economic crisis that followed.

00:22:00.200 And so the original architect of the skyscraper curse, a real estate analyst named Andrew Lawrence, he called the Woolworth building a mistake of the skyscraper curse.

00:22:12.320 But when I went in and looked at the detailed statistics, what I found is that the U.S. economy was going into a severe recession just as the Woolworth building was being prepared to be opened in early 1914.

00:22:28.180 But what Andrew Lawrence forgot or just neglected was the fact that World War I was starting in Europe, and all of the major powers of the world were getting ready for a war, and they were buying steel, they were buying grain, they were buying weapons, they were buying materials.

00:22:48.420 And so that reactivated the U.S. economy and brought us out of what was one of the worst downturns in U.S. economic history.

00:22:56.100 Okay, so give me something, because I think it's fascinating, the Chrysler building is completed.

00:23:03.600 There's actually two skyscrapers, Donald Trump owns one of them now by Wall Street, and the Chrysler building completed.

00:23:10.600 We have the crash of 29, the Empire State Building's completed a year later in 1930, and we go into the Depression.

00:23:18.300 You mentioned in, what was it, 1970, the World Trade Center?

00:23:24.540 That's right.

00:23:25.600 We were on a tremendous, record-breaking business cycle boom during the 1960s.

00:23:32.840 Economists from the Keynesian school thought that they had been able to do away with the business cycle, and business cycle courses were being taken out of the curriculum going into 1970 as the World Trade Tower 1 and 2 were being built and rising in New York City, soon to be followed by the Sears Tower in Chicago.

00:23:56.340 And what happened was, just as all this grandeur and glory for the Keynesians was reaching the pinnacle, the U.S. went into an economic crisis.

00:24:08.700 We had the stagflation of 1970 through 1982.

00:24:14.460 We had the U.S. going off the gold standard, things were so bad.

00:24:19.260 We had wage and price controls being imposed by Richard Nixon in 1971, just as the trade towers were coming to a new record height.

00:24:29.360 And so that was a spectacular, menacing sort of example of why we shouldn't trust Keynesian economics.

00:24:39.920 So before we get into what you see on the horizon, what I really appreciated was the theory on why this is happening.

00:24:50.380 Now, there's another theory out there that, like, for instance, the Sears Tower, whenever you build a tower, and I think, again, Woolworth was the exception to this, whenever they build a record tower, that company is at its peak.

00:25:05.120 It's all downhill from there.

00:25:07.640 And you kind of can understand that because you're thinking, okay, well, they're arrogant now.

00:25:12.220 But the way you look at the skyscraper and the things that you say, why this happens, makes total sense.

00:25:22.360 So can you explain your theory on why this is true, why it happens?

00:25:28.940 Well, you know, the people who build these buildings, they may be arrogant, and their arrogance may have risen as a result of the position that they've risen to.

00:25:38.160 But basically, the underlying cause of all this is cheap credit, low interest rates, artificially low interest rates from the central bank or our Federal Reserve.

00:25:48.780 And those low interest rates, in the short run, cause people to, you know, invest more, invest in long-term projects, invest in big, spectacular projects, because, you know, the credit is cheap.

00:26:05.100 They're making profits.

00:26:06.360 Everybody seems to be doing well.

00:26:08.820 And so the Fed can create a rosy economic scenario in the short run.

00:26:14.920 But what it's really doing is causing people to make the wrong investments in the economy, to go beyond what would otherwise be economically rational.

00:26:25.760 And so the number one signal, the number one price in any economy is the interest rate.

00:26:31.800 And when the Fed cooks the books and reduces that interest rate for economic, political, or whatever reason they do it for, if they do it too long and too far, ultimately they're going to create male investments or bad investments like record-setting skyscrapers, which otherwise would never have been built.

00:26:54.520 So it's interesting.

00:26:55.420 It's not necessarily because it's an example of hubris or it's certainly not the cause of the economic trouble.

00:27:00.880 It's a symptom of something.

00:27:02.920 It's of somebody else's hubris.

00:27:04.600 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:04.940 The central banks.

00:27:06.280 That's interesting.

00:27:06.780 Dr. Mark Thornton is going to continue with us here in just a second.

00:27:11.380 The skyscraper curse.

00:27:12.680 So the author of The Skyscraper Curse, Dr. Mark Thornton, is on with us on the Glenn Beck program.

00:27:20.840 And you say that the skyscraper curse is real because of low interest rates that the Fed has kind of cooked the books on.

00:27:31.220 We are now coming out of a place with the lowest interest rates for the longest period of time in the history of our country and maybe the history of the world.

00:27:42.800 What does that say on what's coming?

00:27:46.540 Well, Glenn, it's scary to me.

00:27:50.200 As you said, this is an unprecedented financial environment that we've just left and of zero interest rates.

00:27:59.060 Never happened in human history.

00:28:01.220 And that's the background.

00:28:03.700 Well, that's the background for all corporations who, you know, what their financial structure is, is dependent upon an environment of low interest rates.

00:28:13.560 And so as we leave this environment of ultra low interest rates, you can expect a lot of those bad investments, which we can't necessarily pinpoint right now.

00:28:25.960 But as we go forward, a lot of those investments that people have been making in real estate, in technology, in social media, a lot of that is going to be revealed.

00:28:39.580 And I think we're starting to see this in the business news where profit expectations haven't been met, revenue expectations haven't been met, cost of production have risen unexpectedly for a lot of firms.

00:28:54.320 And so when your revenues are coming down, your accounts receivable are backing up, and your costs of production are rising, the profits disappear and the losses start to reveal themselves.

00:29:07.840 And then, of course, you have companies that are going to have to react to that with restructuring, with bankruptcy, with foreclosures.

00:29:17.700 And I think this is a worldwide phenomenon.

00:29:21.840 It's not just the U.S.

00:29:23.320 The Bank of Japan, the European Central Bank, of course, is still at it, really.

00:29:30.040 They haven't yet started retrenching.

00:29:33.260 And central banks around the world have had to match those policies to protect their currencies, or at least to balance their currencies.

00:29:41.340 And so this is not just a U.S. phenomenon.

00:29:43.180 It's a U.S.-led phenomenon, but it's going to impact the entire world. 0.80

00:29:48.240 The people in the know realize that there's corporations all around the globe, particularly in the U.S., in Europe, in Japan, in China, which are very, very vulnerable.

00:30:01.140 And we can expect, over the next two years, for this crisis really to take hold.

00:30:07.700 I think we're just seeing the leading edges of it right now.

00:30:11.240 If this is a storm that's headed our way, put it in a category, one through five.

00:30:20.740 I would say it's a category six.

00:30:24.100 You know, the silver lining here is that this is going to be a very bad economic crisis, in my opinion.

00:30:32.700 I think the empirical information is following that opinion.

00:30:38.860 And the silver lining is that we may have an opportunity to get the world back on a gold standard or some other more sound monetary system.

00:30:48.940 They will tell you, Mark, I have talked to people in banking and very high up in economics. 0.96

00:30:57.540 And they all, I mean, they're all, in my opinion, they all believe the same crap that they all learned in the same schools.

00:31:05.120 But they'll tell you that there's no way the world can afford the lifestyle that we have with the gold standard. 0.93

00:31:12.040 That's why we got off it.

00:31:13.260 We had to buy more stuff.

00:31:14.780 We wanted more stuff.

00:31:15.940 We wanted a great society.

00:31:17.500 We wanted welfare.

00:31:18.860 We wanted two cars.

00:31:20.240 We wanted all that.

00:31:20.980 We can't do it with gold standard.

00:31:23.080 What do you say to that?

00:31:23.880 Well, we can do it with a gold standard.

00:31:26.160 The gold standard is what the world, you know, we left the world of animals and, you know, wandering around.

00:31:33.920 And we discovered sound money, silver coins, and Western civilization began to take hold a few thousand years ago.

00:31:43.640 So this is a brief time.

00:31:45.820 And we need to learn the lesson that sound money, which is independent of any political wishes, is the way to go.

00:31:52.780 And I think we can see our way back in the coming crisis.

00:31:56.760 We can get rid of welfare.

00:31:58.480 We can get rid of Social Security.

00:32:00.160 We can get back on a monetary system that's sound and stable.

00:32:06.560 And I think we have a great opportunity here in this economic crisis that's coming forth to return the world to more human-directed purpose rather than political purpose.

00:32:22.200 When you say Category 6, what category would you put the Great Depression in?

00:32:28.100 I would say that's a 5.

00:32:32.300 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:32:33.620 You would say the Great Depression was a Category 5, and what is coming is a Category 6.

00:32:40.640 That's correct.

00:32:41.340 And, you know, one of the reasons the Great Depression became great is that FDR and even Herbert Hoover tried to solve it politically.

00:32:50.500 They tried to spend their way out.

00:32:52.080 They tried to inflate their way out.

00:32:54.180 They wanted to, you know, create all sorts of government jobs, which is the wrong thing to do.

00:32:59.900 If you allow the free market to resolve an economic crisis, you can make it much shorter and much safer for people.

00:33:09.340 And I think that we can reduce that Category 6 rating on this coming storm greatly if we were to be able to pursue a more traditional policy.

00:33:20.540 I mean, when you had—we had Wilson that scared the hell out of people, followed by Harding and Coolidge, and their recession, which was far steeper than 1929, and the Great—what led to the Great Depression.

00:33:36.680 They solved that.

00:33:38.840 That was over in, like, 18 months.

00:33:41.160 But they stopped spending.

00:33:43.240 You're not—you're in a situation now where the world thinks that socialism is the great answer.

00:33:50.860 I mean, you're not really looking at a country that will say, you know what, we should all tighten our belts, and we're in this together, and let's all suffer together.

00:33:59.540 We're going to do the opposite, don't you think?

00:34:02.700 I'm afraid we might, but I think that there is a way out.

00:34:06.240 Harding set the standard.

00:34:09.420 He required a balanced budget in a depression.

00:34:13.020 He required that interest rates be increased rather than cut.

00:34:18.320 And so the historical record is on our side.

00:34:20.900 Yeah.

00:34:21.200 The free market economics works.

00:34:23.320 Yes.

00:34:23.920 And the socialism that we employed in the New Deal did not work.

00:34:28.020 The socialism in the Japanese bust in 1989 has not worked.

00:34:34.100 Yeah.

00:34:34.320 And almost three decades of pain over there and frustration.

00:34:38.200 But the Keynesian doctrine has not worked.

00:34:40.620 It's only made things worse.

00:34:42.300 It's made economic crises last longer.

00:34:46.000 So let me ask you this.

00:34:47.200 One last question.

00:34:47.800 We've got only about a minute.

00:34:49.000 I could go on for a long time with you.

00:34:50.700 You say that when these buildings are, the ribbon is cut, it's underway.

00:34:59.080 Is there a building we're looking at now in the skyscraper curse that when this happens, you think that's the time?

00:35:06.340 Yes, there is, Glenn.

00:35:09.020 They're building a record-setting skyscraper in Saudi Arabia out in the middle of the desert.

00:35:14.340 It's planned to be a kilometer tall.

00:35:17.440 Oh, my gosh.

00:35:18.180 It's going to set the record, the world record.

00:35:20.000 And the only reason it hasn't set the world record already, it was scheduled to break the world record in November of 2018.

00:35:32.880 And it wouldn't be complete, but only the corruption scandal in Saudi Arabia brought that project into a delay mode about a year ago.

00:35:45.180 So it would have already set the record.

00:35:49.900 So you're looking at any time you think this could go?

00:35:53.880 I think it began in November of last year.

00:35:56.680 All right.

00:35:57.160 Mark, thank you so much.

00:35:58.620 A fascinating book.

00:35:59.820 You should read it.

00:36:00.880 Really good, solid research.

00:36:03.160 It's called The Skyscraper Curse.

00:36:05.420 The Skyscraper Curse by Dr. Mark Thornton from the Von Mises Institute.

00:36:14.800 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

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00:36:31.260 So I'm tired of the he said, she said.

00:36:33.820 I want somebody who's actually done the work.

00:36:36.220 I want somebody who is not politically motivated.

00:36:39.700 And in fact, if I could find somebody who's politically motivated, perhaps even in the other way, it wouldn't be bad.

00:36:46.720 If I could just get the facts.

00:36:49.240 Mark Morgan is a career FBI official.

00:36:52.380 He served as Border Patrol chief for the last six months of the Obama administration.

00:36:56.280 He was ousted by President Trump at the beginning of his presidency.

00:36:59.640 Prior to that, he was the assistant commissioner to the U.S.

00:37:02.920 Customs and Border Protection and a police officer at LAPD.

00:37:06.280 He served in the Marine Corps for 11 years.

00:37:11.680 And I just want the facts on what's really happening on the border.

00:37:16.220 I don't want political spin.

00:37:18.600 Welcome to the program, Mark Morgan.

00:37:21.020 How are you?

00:37:22.700 I'm doing well.

00:37:23.420 Thanks for having me, Glenn.

00:37:24.480 You bet.

00:37:24.960 Can you can you run down and fact check some of the things that have been said about the border?

00:37:33.200 And can you tell the American people what's really happening?

00:37:36.320 What are we facing?

00:37:38.380 Yes, I can.

00:37:39.360 And Glenn, I tell you, if the American people are listening, I mean, what you said in your opening is your introduction, which I appreciated is exactly why I have broke my silence after all this time.

00:37:51.000 As time went by, at first I wanted to give people deference that, hey, they were just misinformed or because they were viewing facts through their own individual political ideological lens that they were unintentionally misinforming people.

00:38:06.240 But as time went by, I don't say this with happiness, but I feel that there's actually some intent behind the distortion of the facts and what's out there.

00:38:16.740 Sure.

00:38:17.020 And that's why I broke my silence.

00:38:18.820 Okay.

00:38:19.140 So I'll give you one example.

00:38:21.840 If anyone says that the wall is ineffective, that they're simply misleading the American people.

00:38:31.700 There are facts, historical data that shows that the wall, as part of a multilayered approach of infrastructure, technology, and personnel, when those things coalesce together and they're provided effectively along the southwest border, Glenn, it works.

00:38:51.800 And go to the fact, you know, there was an article that was just published by the Yuma County Sheriff's in Arizona that said when the wall, when the wall, along with technology and personnel, came to his territory, he saw over a 90% reduction in immigration.

00:39:07.620 And he saw overall crime in his territory reduced drastically.

00:39:12.740 That is a fact.

00:39:14.240 That's not made up.

00:39:15.920 In the United States Border Patrol, when I go there, again, I was there.

00:39:19.360 I don't understand why pundits are not listening to the experts.

00:39:26.060 Look, you know, so, you know, the president of the Border Patrol Council, Brandon Judd, and the current White House, you know, they didn't want me there and they removed me.

00:39:36.560 And I'm here today, as you said, to say that they're right.

00:39:39.800 And the reason why they're right is because they've got decades and decades, and they've dedicated their entire life along the southwest border protecting our country.

00:39:48.680 And they're out there saying that the wall works.

00:39:51.100 He talked about in the Gallus, San Diego.

00:39:53.480 We could go on and on forever where it is fact, Glenn.

00:39:57.260 It's not political ideology.

00:39:59.360 It's not twisting.

00:40:00.680 That's the fact.

00:40:01.780 So yesterday, yesterday, the spin was from Nancy Pelosi.

00:40:07.320 Well, they're just going to tunnel under the wall.

00:40:10.640 Yeah, that's Glenn.

00:40:13.320 I tell you, again, I'm trying not to throw myself in the political arena.

00:40:18.040 I think it's almost impossible to talk about this, that issue without it being infused in politics. 0.97

00:40:22.260 But that is a ridiculous statement. 0.99

00:40:25.520 It is absolutely ridiculous. 0.99

00:40:28.320 So, well, so it twists the facts. 0.60

00:40:31.780 Are tunnels used?

00:40:34.040 Yes.

00:40:34.540 Have tunnels been used?

00:40:36.340 Are they successful?

00:40:37.960 Yes.

00:40:39.020 But, Glenn, that is a minute problem.

00:40:43.240 That is a small problem of the overall problem.

00:40:47.740 And I can tell you that the Customs and Border Protection, specifically CBP, they're working every day to improve their ground sensor technology and tunnel technology, working with the Israel, et cetera, to improve that technology.

00:41:00.480 So the argument is disingenuous.

00:41:03.120 So because the bad guys changed their tactics, techniques, and procedures, therefore, we should do away with other infrastructure that helps reduce the other techniques they use?

00:41:15.800 I mean, you see, it doesn't make any sense.

00:41:17.580 Can you help me with, because I think this is a humanitarian crisis, because we are so, we are sending mixed signals all the time.

00:41:27.920 People are sending their children over.

00:41:29.880 The sex trade is just outrageous. 1.00

00:41:34.680 The rape on women, you have a 30% chance, if you're a woman, you're going with a mule, 30% chance of being raped. 1.00

00:41:42.260 Can you describe how a wall is actually the humanitarian thing to do?

00:41:48.700 Do you have any facts to – go ahead.

00:41:50.760 Yes, and again, Glenn, you're 100% right.

00:41:54.440 Everything that you just said, you're 100% right, and that's based on my experience, in fact, and the experience of a whole heck of a lot of other people who have been doing this a lot longer than I have.

00:42:04.240 Because remember, as the FBI, I was in charge of the El Paso division.

00:42:08.080 From my office, I could see Juarez.

00:42:10.540 So I lived it for two years and worked it for two years there right on the border.

00:42:14.400 And I'm telling you, when I became chief of the Border Patrol, almost immediately, and this is back in 2016, almost immediately, you know what word I was using?

00:42:23.920 Humanitarian crisis.

00:42:25.480 And that was back in 2016.

00:42:27.880 You know, in 2014 is when the onslaught of family units and then involved to the unaccompanied minors started.

00:42:33.820 This is not a crisis that just happened today.

00:42:36.780 It's a crisis that's been going on for a long time, and it is a dual-hatted. 1.00

00:42:40.880 It's a national security and humanitarian crisis.

00:42:43.660 And here's where the wall helps.

00:42:46.440 So, look, again, it's – and no one is – and this is where it's disingenuous, too, when people want to try it as a soundbite, say, well, the wall won't solve everything.

00:42:54.960 That's absolutely correct, but guess what?

00:42:56.780 No one has ever said that.

00:42:58.560 There's not a single Border Patrol agent in the history of the Border Patrol or any leader within that agency that has ever said the wall works.

00:43:05.500 But it is a significant part of the multilayered approach.

00:43:08.400 And here's where it will help everything that you just talked about.

00:43:11.880 By building that wall, the infrastructure, technology, and personnel, what it's going to do is take away the avenue from the cartels and from the coyotes.

00:43:21.660 They will no longer have the avenues to what I really think is a systematic abuse and torture of the people that they're bringing through this perilous crash.

00:43:32.620 I agree.

00:43:33.900 And especially what you just said.

00:43:36.560 And this is what I don't understand, the pundits' political side.

00:43:41.800 Glenn, I don't understand.

00:43:43.560 It's just what you said.

00:43:44.800 These are young girls that are being smuggled as part of the human smuggling effort, and they're being forced into sex trade and et cetera. 0.66

00:43:56.540 It's horrendous.

00:43:58.780 And to think that we would not support everything that the expert says we need to mitigate that and have a positive impact on that, I don't understand.

00:44:09.420 You build that wall, you have the technology, you have the personnel, it takes away that avenue from the cartels and the coyotes.

00:44:16.480 And now the only way that somebody can get in is through the points of entry.

00:44:21.840 And that gives us a heck of a lot better shot.

00:44:25.060 I'm talking to Mark Morgan, a former Border Patrol chief who was with the FBI for a long time, U.S. Marine Corps.

00:44:29.160 So, with the wall, this is something that a lot of people will bring up, Mark, is, you know, as you pointed out, tunnels could theoretically go under it.

00:44:38.040 People could saw through it.

00:44:40.180 They could climb over it.

00:44:41.180 There are ways to get past walls.

00:44:43.320 But the theory is, number one, you're going to get rid of the low-hanging fruit, right, people who don't want to do that.

00:44:49.060 Two, you're going to delay anyone who's trying to attempt that so that Border Patrol can get there.

00:44:54.900 And isn't it as well a sign, like, when you're in a country and you see pictures of the wall on television, there's a lot of people that will be dissuaded just from knowing that the wall exists.

00:45:06.520 Are those things accurate?

00:45:08.980 Again, Glenn, you know, you've done your homework and you've talked to a lot of people.

00:45:13.040 Everything you just said is right.

00:45:14.520 It's a deterrence.

00:45:15.300 It's a delay.

00:45:16.600 It affords the United Border Patrol to use other operational tactics to secure the border.

00:45:21.580 And let me mention something about the tunnel again because, again, it's just an outrageous comment.

00:45:26.100 So because there may be other methods to get around it, you don't want to build it.

00:45:31.480 Again, it makes no sense.

00:45:32.740 That defies common sense.

00:45:33.840 And I know the American people are smarter than that.

00:45:36.280 Let's talk about tunnels just for example.

00:45:39.040 It is used, but it's few because you can imagine it takes a lot, a lot of time, energy, and effort to build a tunnel.

00:45:51.580 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:46:04.180 Something's Off with Andrew Heaton is the name of the podcast that you can hear daily with Andrew Heaton, and he joins us now.

00:46:12.120 Hello.

00:46:12.440 Thank you.

00:46:12.720 Good to be back.

00:46:13.240 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:13.720 Good to have you back.

00:46:14.500 How was your holiday?

00:46:16.040 It was great.

00:46:16.520 I went to Oklahoma for Christmas, and I went camping in eastern Texas, and I went up to New York to visit friends.

00:46:22.740 So I had a great time.

00:46:23.760 Holy cow. 0.89

00:46:24.340 It was all over the board.

00:46:25.280 It was all over the board.

00:46:26.260 Yeah, yeah.

00:46:26.840 How was the change from like Oklahoma to New York?

00:46:30.240 You know, okay, so I lived in New York for six years, and I think it's kind of like if you've been stuck in a car with someone for like three or four weeks, you have no patience whatsoever.

00:46:39.260 That's how I was when I left New York.

00:46:40.620 Coming back, though, I had rebuilt all of that deep breathing, and I was able to handle it.

00:46:45.560 It's fine.

00:46:46.580 It's a great place to visit.

00:46:48.160 Yeah.

00:46:48.420 You just don't want to be trapped.

00:46:50.120 Live there.

00:46:50.840 I think you can live there if you are very young or very hot or very rich, and I am smoking hot, but I don't have enough money to make it work long term.

00:47:00.440 Can I tell you something?

00:47:01.900 When I was living there, I was very rich, and no.

00:47:05.520 Uh-uh.

00:47:06.120 No. 0.99

00:47:06.900 It makes it better, but it still sucks. 0.96

00:47:10.060 Do you need all three of those things? 0.94

00:47:11.840 Because Glenn was rich, but certainly not young.

00:47:14.280 Certainly not hot.

00:47:15.820 And you obviously are very hot, but you're not necessarily rich or young.

00:47:19.820 And I'm 35 as of yesterday.

00:47:23.020 A quarter of my life is over now.

00:47:26.160 Yeah.

00:47:27.200 How old do you think you're going to?

00:47:28.620 I'm very optimistic, Steve.

00:47:30.040 I'm not good at math, but I'm thinking like 120.

00:47:32.320 Oh, wow.

00:47:33.080 That's my thought.

00:47:34.520 All right.

00:47:34.980 All right.

00:47:35.400 Yeah, you're not good at math.

00:47:37.080 And one of these days, you're going to find somebody to share your life with.

00:47:40.060 Yeah, I'm working on that.

00:47:41.080 I think this is the year.

00:47:42.900 This could be the year.

00:47:43.820 This could be the year.

00:47:44.960 What are you looking for?

00:47:45.580 Two or three wives.

00:47:46.660 What are you looking for?

00:47:47.640 I really like playful, goofy ladies because I kind of want to joke around, right? 1.00

00:47:53.940 So that's a big deal.

00:47:55.000 I like open-minded people who are tolerant.

00:47:58.160 I don't really like fighting.

00:47:59.300 I'm not combative.

00:47:59.920 And I have a lot of really weird friends.

00:48:02.380 So whoever I wind up with has to be fairly porous to other ideas coming in.

00:48:07.380 Sure.

00:48:07.860 Eclectic.

00:48:08.380 Yeah.

00:48:08.700 Yeah.

00:48:09.540 So you fit in with us.

00:48:11.380 Yeah.

00:48:11.800 I think I fit in here very well.

00:48:13.180 Yeah.

00:48:13.460 Yeah.

00:48:13.780 And we're pretty eclectic.

00:48:15.400 That's an understatement.

00:48:17.420 I think eclectic is, yes, that is the minimum FDA regulation term that we have to use for this

00:48:23.540 motley crew.

00:48:24.320 Well, what would you say the actual term is, if eclectic is the minimum?

00:48:30.280 I mean, I don't know psychology that well, Glenn.

00:48:33.220 I'm sure there's some kind of term for it.

00:48:34.800 All right.

00:48:35.640 So let's start with France.

00:48:38.000 Okay.

00:48:38.680 France having riots.

00:48:41.380 You're familiar with the Yellow Vest riots.

00:48:43.280 That is their national pastime.

00:48:44.780 So yes.

00:48:45.260 Yes.

00:48:45.780 This was pretty serious.

00:48:47.820 The 70% approval rating with these riots.

00:48:50.840 And they just changed yesterday.

00:48:52.720 About this time, they announced that the 70% of the French population likes the riots.

00:48:59.140 Yeah.

00:48:59.500 They side with the.

00:49:01.440 I thought the riots were like the top political.

00:49:04.360 No, no, no.

00:49:04.960 They side with the people who are rioting.

00:49:08.740 Okay.

00:49:08.980 Gotcha.

00:49:09.420 All right.

00:49:10.040 So the leadership came out and said, this weekend, we want to try something new because

00:49:15.480 we want direct democracy, which as a historian yourself works out super well.

00:49:21.640 Every time.

00:49:22.720 If you want to be a Greek city state for 80 years, it's pretty good. 0.99

00:49:26.940 Yeah.

00:49:27.220 I'd say outside of those.

00:49:28.620 Yeah.

00:49:29.240 Doesn't work real well.

00:49:30.280 Really?

00:49:30.980 So they want to direct democracy.

00:49:33.200 They want to make up their own laws.

00:49:35.220 And they're going to try to collapse the euro beginning this weekend.

00:49:41.120 Real quick.

00:49:41.920 That could work because like one of the problems of direct democracy is ultimately the people

00:49:46.140 with the most free time around the country.

00:49:47.700 Because if you have a job, you don't have time to go online and write laws.

00:49:51.280 But everyone in France only works three months a year.

00:49:53.620 So they might actually be able to make that work.

00:49:55.600 That's impossible for them.

00:49:56.480 All right.

00:49:57.160 So they're telling people, go in, take your euros out of your bank account and put it into

00:50:02.580 cryptocurrency.

00:50:03.440 They're saying that they like you to take everything out, but just take at least 20%

00:50:08.360 out.

00:50:09.380 If that happened, if you got 70% of France to take 20% of their money out and cash it

00:50:16.900 out of euros, you could have a economic disaster on your hands all across Europe.

00:50:23.980 Are they trying to create a run on the bank?

00:50:25.640 Are they trying?

00:50:26.060 Yes.

00:50:26.500 And that's hopefully going to lead to the collapse of the euro.

00:50:29.640 Correct.

00:50:30.680 I would be amazed.

00:50:32.080 Ambitious, I would say.

00:50:32.900 France became the champion of cryptocurrency and brought down the euro.

00:50:36.920 That is not a prediction I had for 2019.

00:50:38.840 It's Mr. Robot season three.

00:50:40.720 It happens though.

00:50:41.360 Yeah.

00:50:41.620 Look for that.

00:50:42.240 Yeah.

00:50:42.460 Good.

00:50:42.800 Good.

00:50:43.120 I've got a plan for what France should do.

00:50:45.480 Really?

00:50:45.660 When last I was reading about this with any great degree, at the time, I don't know if

00:50:50.540 they've dealt with this, but at the time, the police were threatening to join the protesters.

00:50:53.620 And at that point, it's kind of game over because the only folks that are keeping marginal

00:50:57.680 order in France are the police because these have gone from protests to riot.

00:51:01.060 There's a qualitative difference, right?

00:51:02.580 So I thought if I were Macron, what would I do?

00:51:05.680 And I came up with a brilliant solution.

00:51:07.080 Okay.

00:51:08.020 As the government, you go on strike.

00:51:12.980 That's right.

00:51:13.520 You go, we're joining you.

00:51:14.720 We agree.

00:51:15.660 I think we are, we, I, President Macron, I am going on strike.

00:51:19.860 I am not going to work anymore.

00:51:22.020 None of my cabinet's going to work anymore.

00:51:23.940 We're with you.

00:51:24.780 And then what happens?

00:51:25.460 Who runs the country?

00:51:26.040 And the answer to that is Germany. 0.81

00:51:28.380 And I think that's ultimately, ultimately what France needs to do is outsource its leadership

00:51:32.540 to Germany for a while.

00:51:33.800 Right.

00:51:34.400 You know, I think if our government went on strike.

00:51:37.040 They've done that before.

00:51:37.720 You know, they've outsourced their leadership to Germany before.

00:51:39.800 It did not work out as well.

00:51:40.600 Third time's the charm.

00:51:40.860 You know, if, if, if our government went on strike, you know, if, if Trump and Pelosi

00:51:47.240 and Schumer said, you know, we can't agree on anything, but we're going on strike.

00:51:51.420 I think the American people would cheer.

00:51:53.620 Yes.

00:51:54.100 I think that could be a fairly popular thing.

00:51:56.660 Yeah.

00:51:57.020 I think everybody would be like, okay, good.

00:51:59.080 Like all of Washington goes to the Florida Keys, just a bunch of museums for a while.

00:52:02.760 That could be a lot of fun.

00:52:03.820 Right.

00:52:04.100 I think that would be a very good thing.

00:52:06.100 There are real issues with this shutdown though, because, you know, you, there are some

00:52:09.280 serious things that are going on with it.

00:52:10.600 Obviously the people who are out of work, you have the people, you know, like these big

00:52:14.000 parks closed and there's businesses nearby that are, you know, based on the traffic

00:52:17.640 that goes there.

00:52:18.300 You have a flood insurance coming up for renewal.

00:52:20.300 There's also food stamps.

00:52:21.800 But I think the thing that might turn people around on this is no longer can craft breweries

00:52:27.340 get their labels approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, which apparently

00:52:32.020 they have to do.

00:52:33.080 So no new varieties of craft beer coming into play.

00:52:38.400 I think that could actually cause enough pressure to shut down the whole debate.

00:52:43.320 This is how long I've been an alcoholic.

00:52:45.260 I first thought, when did craft, the macaroni and cheese people start making beer?

00:52:50.720 Oh man.

00:52:52.100 Macaroni beer.

00:52:53.020 That sounds like a, like a very popular, horrible idea for about six weeks of like, oh no, Wisconsin.

00:52:58.680 We love beer.

00:52:59.340 We love cheese.

00:53:00.100 Macaroni beer.

00:53:01.040 It's three cheese beer.

00:53:03.400 The more you talk about it, the more it's true. 0.53

00:53:05.780 Now I bought it.

00:53:06.540 You know what I'm just saying?

00:53:07.180 Savorite beer.

00:53:07.640 That could be kind of a good Viking thing.

00:53:08.800 I mean, they have beer cheese, which is delicious.

00:53:11.080 It's true.

00:53:11.300 Yeah.

00:53:11.540 Okay.

00:53:11.740 This could be a thing.

00:53:13.000 We may have just created a giant.

00:53:14.880 Somebody at craft is going, we are getting out of the macaroni and cheese business.

00:53:20.280 You're welcome.

00:53:20.800 Yeah.

00:53:21.080 Yeah.

00:53:21.440 Yeah.

00:53:21.860 So if, I mean, because this is a serious thing with our economy, China's economy, if Europe

00:53:29.020 would collapse, you know, I have, I'm doing this seriously with some of the war gamers that

00:53:35.020 we, we, uh, talk to who are the allies and who are the access powers?

00:53:39.960 I mean, if Europe would go into chaos.

00:53:42.820 Is there anyone within the sound of my voice that bets against Germany?

00:53:48.760 Well, Germany kept an independent bank too.

00:53:51.260 Like they, like for years now, I mean, like it's since the invention of the Euro, we're

00:53:54.440 like, yeah, I'm just going to keep our bank just in case, in case something happens for

00:53:58.700 the Euro.

00:53:59.100 So like they can like tomorrow, they're good to go.

00:54:02.260 Uh, and also their economy.

00:54:03.520 I mean, like it was like, I used to live in the UK and, uh, and there's, there's still

00:54:07.040 a little bit of, of anti-German resentment.

00:54:08.880 And the, some of the older folks are like, I thought, I thought we defeated these people

00:54:12.060 and they've taken over.

00:54:12.960 Uh, cause their economy is so good.

00:54:14.840 Uh, Germany, well, their economy is good unless France and Italy and Spain and everybody else 0.96

00:54:20.900 goes down.

00:54:21.340 Their economy is what?

00:54:22.560 50 or 80% export to the Euro zone.

00:54:28.820 Okay.

00:54:29.380 Yeah.

00:54:29.560 That makes sense.

00:54:30.280 If that goes down, Germans are in trouble.

00:54:33.220 Would it, would it necessarily follow that if the currency implodes that the, the trade zone

00:54:37.340 would as well?

00:54:39.600 Uh, yeah.

00:54:40.280 Well, yeah.

00:54:41.220 I think, I mean, I think they could.

00:54:42.600 I don't, I don't think they'd have to do that.

00:54:44.640 No, they wouldn't have to, but the Euro, as we would know it, would be over.

00:54:49.460 That would just be, that's what they promised.

00:54:51.640 It would make trading more difficult for sure.

00:54:52.980 Cause you'd have to.

00:54:53.580 Yeah.

00:54:53.820 I mean, they would all trade with each other, but the promise of the European union is over.

00:54:59.540 It's peace and prosperity.

00:55:01.160 That's what they guaranteed.

00:55:03.620 Well, I don't have either.

00:55:05.440 So what are we doing in this?

00:55:07.240 Do we have an idea of how serious these things are when it comes to these protests?

00:55:10.560 Cause I think like, you get that sense that like, this happened many times where like

00:55:14.860 anonymous and they would be like, in four hours, we're going to destroy Mark Zuckerberg's

00:55:19.680 toilet.

00:55:19.960 And you're like, and then it never happens.

00:55:22.780 They threaten things all the time.

00:55:24.280 He's still going potty in his toilet.

00:55:26.140 It's still working.

00:55:27.100 Right.

00:55:27.340 Do we know that?

00:55:28.100 Is there, I mean, we're going to pull out 20% of our money and put it in Bitcoin to

00:55:31.360 collapse a Euro.

00:55:32.000 Is that, is that a legitimately threat?

00:55:34.240 They have 70% approval rating.

00:55:37.100 That's kind of the scary part.

00:55:38.220 Yeah.

00:55:38.640 So if let's just say Occupy wall street or Antifa had 70% of the country behind them.

00:55:45.860 And then you had in that 70%, you had another 70, 80% that was like, yeah, I don't have anything

00:55:55.240 else better to do, but just do whatever they say this weekend.

00:55:59.660 If 70% of that 70% would go in and take 20% of their money out of the bank, that, that would

00:56:07.540 be very harmful.

00:56:08.900 They would, the, the French government.

00:56:11.320 Right.

00:56:11.500 But that's an impossible ask, right?

00:56:14.340 That's asking all the people to put their money where their mouth is, which is usually

00:56:18.560 a division in polling between like, Hey, do you want more stuff?

00:56:21.580 Yeah.

00:56:21.780 Do you want higher taxes?

00:56:22.600 No.

00:56:23.280 Okay.

00:56:23.960 Well, those are, those are irreconcilable.

00:56:26.080 Yeah.

00:56:26.320 But like where you turn poll people.

00:56:27.820 Yeah.

00:56:27.960 When you're talking about collapsing the Euro and collapsing the financial system, you know,

00:56:33.360 I think there's just more people that are like, um, wait a minute.

00:56:37.640 And I'm not sure.

00:56:40.080 Cause that, that affects my paycheck, right?

00:56:43.060 Right.

00:56:43.440 That could affect, that could affect football games.

00:56:45.780 That could affect wine. 0.88

00:56:47.520 I do.

00:56:48.360 It wouldn't surprise me if it brought down the Republic.

00:56:50.340 Uh, the, cause we're on, we're on Republic 5.0, right?

00:56:53.460 Like this, it just, this, like the last one, De Gaulle's the last one that started up, but

00:56:56.440 they, they reboot a lot more frequently than we do.

00:56:58.680 They're like, they're like an old computer.

00:56:59.820 Yeah.

00:57:00.240 And it's also not, uh, uh, it's not just France.

00:57:04.420 Remember the yellow jacket thing has spread all over Europe, including England.

00:57:10.000 So if you, if you had a good portion of people, I don't think it's going to happen, but if

00:57:13.840 you had a good portion of people do it this weekend, it could make a real run on the banks.

00:57:18.040 And that's the last thing that you want.

00:57:19.580 This is the best of a Glenn Beck program.

00:57:31.880 I'm reading about Jeff Bezos and his, um, uh, his divorce from his wife, which is really

00:57:37.800 sad.

00:57:38.180 They've been together for how long?

00:57:40.620 25 years.

00:57:41.320 25 years.

00:57:43.620 And, uh, they've had a great relationship for, as we know on the, you know, on the outside

00:57:49.600 had a great relationship.

00:57:51.360 She's been there the whole time.

00:57:53.440 Every time I've ever heard Jeff Bezos and his wife, uh, talk about marriage and things.

00:57:58.400 And this is obviously years ago.

00:58:00.220 They've always given the impression that they're real partners.

00:58:03.200 And, you know, like I couldn't do what, uh, I couldn't do what Tanya does.

00:58:09.360 Tanya couldn't do what I do together. 1.00

00:58:13.200 We can support each other and we, we make it together.

00:58:18.020 Um, and I don't know if it's like that with all marriages, but I've always gotten the impression

00:58:22.860 with Bezos.

00:58:23.860 It is like that.

00:58:24.920 Cause she was around before Amazon. 0.95

00:58:27.580 He was, he was a millionaire.

00:58:28.740 I believe it was four years after they got married.

00:58:31.520 Yeah.

00:58:31.680 He was first a millionaire.

00:58:32.940 Remember this guy is the richest man in the world.

00:58:36.160 $147 billion.

00:58:37.040 So she, I think she, you make a great case that she absolutely deserves half of everything. 0.96

00:58:44.160 Oh yeah.

00:58:44.600 I think absolutely.

00:58:45.880 Certainly there's, you don't have a prenup in that situation. 0.88

00:58:48.320 They both had nothing.

00:58:49.280 Yeah.

00:58:49.640 And they came to the relationship, uh, without lots of assets.

00:58:52.620 So they don't have a prenup.

00:58:54.180 And you know, you're talking $147 billion.

00:58:57.180 Billion.

00:58:57.760 Billion.

00:58:58.300 He's the richest man in the world.

00:58:59.840 So she's going to be, you know, getting something like $73 and a half billion, which is a lot

00:59:07.680 to get.

00:59:08.400 Do you think you even fight over that?

00:59:11.040 You're with somebody for 25 years.

00:59:13.720 Do you think you even fight over that or just say, here's half? 0.94

00:59:18.820 You know, you hope it's like that.

00:59:20.300 I mean, they did release a very nice statement.

00:59:22.240 You know, our relationship is changing, but we'll still be friends type of thing.

00:59:24.900 Yeah.

00:59:25.380 Which indicates maybe it's, you know, I mean, he's going to walk away with $73 billion.

00:59:30.200 He's still in a decent spot.

00:59:31.920 It's more than I have by a significant amount.

00:59:34.260 It's more than how much, for instance, how much, let's say, let's compare him to somebody

00:59:39.080 who has, you know, $50,000 worth of wealth.

00:59:43.080 So, you know, you, you might make $50,000, but you know, you've got, uh, you know, between

00:59:49.720 what you have invested in your house and your car, if it was paid off and a 401k.

00:59:55.300 Then she got around 50 grand.

00:59:57.060 Yeah.

00:59:57.200 Which is decent.

00:59:57.980 I like, you know, depending on what stage of life you're in, that's a lot more than

01:00:01.000 many people have.

01:00:01.800 Let's take his $174 billion.

01:00:05.360 $147, yep.

01:00:06.200 Okay.

01:00:06.440 What is him going out and going, oh, that's a million dollars.

01:00:11.140 Yeah.

01:00:11.580 Give me four of those.

01:00:13.020 How, how much is a million dollars to Jeff Bezos compared to somebody who has $50,000?

01:00:21.320 So if you have $50,000, wow.

01:00:24.420 Uh, so he's $147 billion, a million dollars to him is the same as 34 cents to someone who

01:00:31.800 has $50,000.

01:00:32.900 Oh my gosh.

01:00:33.580 $0.34 cents.

01:00:37.400 Oh my gosh.

01:00:38.700 That's incredible.

01:00:39.600 So you literally could go in because if you have $50,000 and 34 candy is the 34 cents a

01:00:47.320 piece, you just go grab a handful.

01:00:49.020 You might even put a bag full in there and you're like, I don't care.

01:00:53.000 Think of that.

01:00:53.880 Yeah.

01:00:54.440 I mean, look, if you go out and buy Bugattis, you know, like, yeah, give me one in every

01:01:01.300 color and, uh, make a color up too.

01:01:04.720 Yeah.

01:01:05.760 Come up with a device that will create a new color never before seen by the human.

01:01:09.040 Right.

01:01:09.940 Yeah.

01:01:10.280 I mean, think about this.

01:01:11.340 We talk about someone with $50,000. 0.99

01:01:12.860 Think about a normal, holy crap, that guy's rich person. 0.66

01:01:16.620 Someone with a million dollars, a million dollars, a millionaire, right? 0.97

01:01:20.780 To a millionaire, the difference between Jeff Bezos spending a million dollars to a millionaire,

01:01:27.100 that's like $6 and 80 cents.

01:01:29.360 Oh my gosh.

01:01:30.980 It's a value meal, right?

01:01:32.380 Like it's an extra value meal.

01:01:33.760 You wouldn't even think about it.

01:01:35.360 Oh my gosh.

01:01:35.760 So that goes back to, and again, you know, a best advice I ever got on money was somebody

01:01:42.720 who said to me, how much is enough?

01:01:45.920 Now this is a guy, you know, who I think helped invent styrofoam.

01:01:50.180 So he had a lot of money.

01:01:52.980 And I said, I don't know.

01:01:55.140 And he said, you have to decide because it will never be enough.

01:01:59.360 If you're really successful, it will never be enough.

01:02:03.040 And I remember saying to you when we first started out, you spend what you make.

01:02:07.240 Yeah.

01:02:07.680 It may seem like, oh, if I could just make $100,000, you're going to be in exactly the

01:02:13.000 same situation if you don't think about it going in.

01:02:17.420 And really plan and be disciplined.

01:02:18.200 Right.

01:02:18.440 Otherwise, you're going to make $100,000, and you're going to be like, I thought this

01:02:21.300 was going to free my life up.

01:02:22.780 No, you just bought more stuff.

01:02:25.260 The bills go up.

01:02:26.620 The house gets a little bigger.

01:02:28.480 You know, the car gets a little nicer.

01:02:30.120 But still, you're still spending so much.

01:02:31.220 But if a million dollars, if a million dollars to Jeff Bezos is like $6 to a millionaire, doesn't

01:02:42.800 it make it a little easier to go, yeah, she's been with me for 25 years.

01:02:47.560 Take half.

01:02:48.500 Especially that.

01:02:49.620 Right.

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