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00:00:00.000 welcome to the podcast today we look into the deep state what is actually going on there glenn

00:00:04.680 has all the background information and a lot of stuff that was said on the show uh before

00:00:10.300 it's turning out to uh be accurate we'll get into the details there uh we find out from cnn as well

00:00:16.440 that apparently no one's ever seen anything like talk radio this time around they've never seen

00:00:21.240 people so critical of joe biden and there's no equivalent on the uh other side there's no one

00:00:27.200 who's just like criticizing donald trump over every little thing that he does that does not

00:00:30.920 exist we'll uh get into that um new stuff on covid19 and hydroxychloroquine is in today's show

00:00:37.740 elan omar she's we're at the point now you can read the story on the blaze but it looks like all of

00:00:43.460 this stuff has kind of come come through as least as close as we can possibly track it there's not

00:00:47.680 much more we could do on the journalist uh journalistic side you kind of now need to go to

00:00:52.020 the legal side of this particular equation and what is going on with the economy how much money

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00:01:38.600 let's let's talk a little bit about

00:01:44.660 uh brian stelter uh i know he's going to be he's going to be talked about on every talk show

00:01:53.640 in america today yeah if you don't know who he is congratulations you shouldn't and i hate to even

00:02:01.300 bring this up because it's it seems self-serving or it uh it's like well of course but this is an

00:02:10.580 example of somebody that is so self-unaware he he must not even see his reflection in mirrors

00:02:20.400 yeah he must be invisible to himself yes uh i want you to listen to what he said on rely was it

00:02:28.940 reliable sources is that what he does or what's the name of the reliable it is on reliable sources

00:02:35.560 on cnn with brian stelter listen to this when you see um entire media companies essentially exist

00:02:43.360 to tear down joe biden is there an equivalent to that on the left tearing down trump

00:02:47.640 there really isn't and you know what i would say it's it's really a diet of this type of information

00:02:56.320 that a lot of these voters are getting a lot of the voters that i talk to i can uh you know when i

00:03:01.300 interview them i do hear uh them saying a lot of the talking points that sound very familiar from

00:03:05.980 some of these shows which i try to listen to when i'm out on the campaign trail or when i'm at home

00:03:10.620 you know watching tv you know you can you can hear these uh these comments being echoed uh by voters

00:03:16.160 that's one of the most mind-numbing uh questions and answers of all time it proves a brian stelter

00:03:25.620 doesn't even watch his own network nor his own show otherwise he wouldn't be asking that question

00:03:31.300 all right so any other network is similar to fox news that would that would uh uh that would bash

00:03:38.840 trump the way uh fox bashes biden are you credible kidding me it's not even close we you guys we we

00:03:47.580 haven't sarah can you go to the daily wire and see their story on brian stelter and and pull up the

00:03:53.900 clip that that uh uh ben shapiro uh pulled it because it is it's even more outrageous than this

00:04:03.460 it really is more outrageous than this i thought this was the clip that we had where he opens it up

00:04:08.980 and he starts to talk about how you know there is i want to tell you uh something that psychiatrists

00:04:16.420 psychologists uh and political scientists have now pointed out there is a a condition to where people

00:04:26.080 um hate the other candidate so much that they hate those people more than the truth itself and i thought

00:04:38.240 oh he's he's gonna do an expose on cnn in the mainstream media uh and he said and this

00:04:46.360 this is what's going on it's unbelievable you will not believe what's happening on talk radio

00:04:50.940 this is a uh a center of hate that is just poured out over the nation every day it's unbelievable oh my

00:05:00.120 gosh absolutely unbelievable uh and it's it's it's i i heard this this morning and i thought this is

00:05:09.260 the seeds that are now being planted to get rid of talk radio if joe biden wins we're gone we're gone

00:05:18.060 because we're just nothing but hate mongers we have escaped this this eye of death the eye of moloch 0.87

00:05:26.020 if you will because donald trump has has taken all the oxygen out of the room as soon as donald trump

00:05:33.360 is no longer there it's talk radio again is going to be the big boogeyman i really just can't imagine

00:05:40.320 the level it's incomprehensible to me that you'd think what they describe is going on i mean like

00:05:47.240 for i think honestly joe biden has had the easiest road of any candidate in my lifetime from the right

00:05:54.340 about the only thing we've we've pointed out is that he might be going senile he's like oh and

00:05:59.960 we've expressed actual concern over it wait wait wait wait wait we have not lobbed hatred and not

00:06:06.780 at all we have we have actually lobbed facts against him we can't get anybody to be uh interested in the

00:06:15.340 dealings in china or the dealings in ukraine you can't get anybody interested in that nobody is

00:06:22.100 interested everybody to everybody just feels sad uh about joe biden and quite honestly i think we

00:06:29.800 worry about who's really going to be running the country and they would be saying that too if they

00:06:35.460 just weren't in bed uh with the democratic party right they would absolutely be saying the same thing

00:06:41.980 uh can somebody question him on whether he's all there because it looks as though he's sliding

00:06:49.820 any reasonable person would say that and and democrats obviously see that as well they just

00:06:54.400 don't like trump and this is what it's been it's been all an election about trump biden has skated from

00:06:59.880 almost all criticism we yeah we've done shit we've done shows months ago about about his corruption in 0.77

00:07:06.860 china and ukraine and you're right glenn it's hard to get people interested in it i mean uh we i just we

00:07:12.800 did a thing on studios america about biden's eulogizing a kkk member right like why that hasn't been

00:07:19.640 all over conservative media how is it possible in the middle of this moment that that in this close

00:07:24.960 to an election that hasn't been out there we barely even talked about his policies yeah barely awful

00:07:29.700 yeah well you were just pat was just talking about what was it four trillion dollars trillion dollars

00:07:33.260 yeah and tax increases is what he's proposing four trillion dollars has that been even talked about

00:07:38.060 this guy's faced almost no scrutiny the only scrutiny he's received is his age and how old he is and i 0.77

00:07:44.200 think that's been general to be fair split between laughing at how pathetic he is when he's on stage 0.86

00:07:49.840 and screwing up all the time and feeling legitimately like this doesn't feel right somebody should stop

00:07:55.860 this it's like weekend at bernie's like not even in a joking way but like in a i actually feel like

00:08:00.240 worried about his his health way and worried about the country but really i think it's the human emotion

00:08:07.560 of man i feel bad for him you see the slipping that nobody in his family nobody who loves him

00:08:14.760 is going to pull him out and say enough of this stop it he's given his whole life you don't need to

00:08:21.480 have him go out this way uh i mean it's it's remarkable what what is uh what's happening and you

00:08:29.220 know you know stew you said i think he's in your lifetime i'm trying to think of a democratic

00:08:34.760 president or candidate that has gotten an easier pass i mean even bill clinton had to finally answer

00:08:43.500 questions during the first campaign uh i would say the pat you would know i think it's jimmy carter

00:08:52.520 who got a pass i think yeah yeah yeah the last one that really didn't get you know uh crucified i think

00:09:02.280 jimmy carter the thing was really this guy i mean nobody hated him no it's just that the economy was

00:09:09.700 in such a sad state of affairs that no i mean at the end for him at the end yeah different than in

00:09:15.720 the end yeah i'm thinking 76 76 nobody yeah he got nobody yeah there wasn't a hatred for him and i

00:09:24.780 would say the same thing that's that is probably one of trump's biggest obstacles here is that there's

00:09:28.660 just no passion against joe biden the passion is either for trump or against trump there's no

00:09:34.380 passion for on either side really of biden where with clinton he had legitimate passion people couldn't

00:09:40.840 stand her they couldn't stand barack obama they couldn't stand al gore like i think it goes all the

00:09:46.120 way back to preceding talk radio i mean you point out carter it's before really talk radio is any force

00:09:52.260 in this country oh yeah i mean you have to go way before it no one has ever seen anything like this

00:09:57.500 and for them to make that point at this time when cnn is essentially a network that runs non-stop anti-trump

00:10:06.240 stories absolutely they accused him of peeing on hookers in russia i mean they ran that story as if it

00:10:15.440 was a real i mean but i mean it's it's right it's and it's not even just these big ones where they

00:10:20.020 also said you know that he was insane and the the it was a 13th amendment needed to be uh implemented 0.53

00:10:26.060 to take him out of office is it no 20 20 23rd 20 23rd 20 i don't know i'm getting whatever it is

00:10:31.800 whatever it is whatever one of this i'm getting them all confused the point being though that that's

00:10:35.440 what they've done that and these big splash stories that conservatives have noticed but watch

00:10:39.780 their coverage on a routine basis every single story comes back to this guy they are completely

00:10:46.520 obsessed with him completely obsessed watch what i dare you because no one's done it in the past

00:10:52.560 few years watch one episode of the aaron burnett show it is all she talks about all the time she's

00:11:02.520 completely obsessed with this man and every show on cnn replicates this idea if it's a story about

00:11:11.220 schools it goes back to trump if it's a story about the economy it goes back to trump there's

00:11:15.160 nothing 19 it certainly goes back to trump every single part i mean they'll they will recite the

00:11:21.120 four or five things donald trump said in february and march where he kind of was dismissive

00:11:25.180 no no no one in their audience knows that nancy pelosi said the same stuff no one in their audience

00:11:31.000 knows that andrew cuomo and bill de blasio stuff in some cases no right yeah no one ever talks about

00:11:37.220 that on the network they talk about trump doing it they are completely overwhelmed with him yes they

00:11:43.500 can't do anything else on the network i've never seen anything like it yeah it's gone so far that

00:11:49.060 they won't even recognize the chicago murder rate is the highest it's been since like 1992

00:11:55.880 uh it is last july they broke all records the biggest deadliest month since 1992 and only slightly

00:12:08.960 more deadly than june 1992 it's the since floyd's death some of the most violent days in the 20 years of

00:12:20.860 official data so no you won't talk about that and if you do it's trump it's trump they have got they've

00:12:29.160 come to such an extreme position to where they won't even condemn violence there was a story in the new

00:12:36.200 york times uh this weekend about the protesters in uh in um uh antifa and the riots in portland

00:12:48.360 and i've never seen anything like it i mean literally never seen anything like it it was like

00:12:52.980 a fashion show spread it had these people um in their regular everyday life uh you know a guy sitting

00:13:01.160 on a lawnmower and then the next picture is him all in his antifa gear and it was showing you see these

00:13:09.700 are just normal people they didn't do that with a tea party who were sitting around making signs with

00:13:15.940 with glitter with their kids at a kitchen table but they are they are doing it uh with antifa and

00:13:24.700 people who are radicals who want to destroy the western way of life it's it's it's nuts yeah it's

00:13:32.960 absolutely nuts and on that on the trump part of this that portland was under siege for weeks and

00:13:38.400 weeks and months and they never talked about it at all it wasn't until trump got involved by sending

00:13:44.500 in federal troops that they got interested in the story because they could blame trump for it

00:13:49.140 remember they kept saying their coverage on that was not that they were trying to light a federal

00:13:53.580 building on fire for weeks and weeks and weeks no it was caused by cameras because he sent troops

00:13:59.000 there and they said you know what he said troops there and that made it worse yeah like it's the

00:14:02.260 only thing that interests them about the news is donald trump's relationship to it they're selling

00:14:07.380 this as portland is always always been protests in portland that's just the way of life in portland

00:14:15.360 is it is it because ask the people of downtown portland the business leaders of downtown portland

00:14:21.760 they've had enough and they supported these guys they've had enough and it's happening in city after city

00:14:29.700 after city businesses are leaving i'm telling you california is is economically going to collapse it's going to

00:14:38.680 collapse because they're hastening their ending by chasing so many people out of the state do you know

00:14:46.320 that they're now newsom is now um uh saying that he may go after people who uh homeschool or tutor their

00:14:56.520 kids at home that he may he may he may actually ban that and go after you if you're trying to teach

00:15:05.480 your own kids at home it is it is insane what's going on and of course brian stelter is on top of

00:15:14.320 all of it because that's just the way he rolls this is the best of the glenbeck program

00:15:22.920 if you live in texas you may know uh rick perry appointed him to the newly formed texas health

00:15:33.280 disparities task force uh and it was an advisory body uh blah blah blah blah blah he was also asked

00:15:40.000 to remain on the task force for seven years received a meritorious service award from the

00:15:45.060 texas department of health and human services his peers have elected him to serve as the county medical

00:15:51.880 society president for four consecutive terms he served for 20 years at the local cbs uh medical

00:15:59.000 expert i mean the guy is well known uh and well credentialed i don't know what they're going to do to

00:16:05.980 him uh now because he says that he has found something that he thinks everyone should try if you have

00:16:14.280 uh a um the symptoms of of covid so i wanted to give you what i was taking and i wanted to talk to

00:16:23.740 uh dr bartlett so if you are feeling anything uh like it's coming on you can ask your doctor about this

00:16:31.620 welcome dr bartlett how are you glenn i'm doing great thanks i'm honored to be with you

00:16:37.020 well thank you very much and thank you for the uh kind consultations and advice uh that i know you've

00:16:45.100 given my doctor um is it possible that uh with everybody in my family i mean i've got immune

00:16:52.620 disorder everything else i should have been the first one to get it um but as soon as as soon as

00:16:58.860 anybody in the family started to get things and i started to feel uh down at all i started the flight

00:17:07.280 of medication that you have recommended and i didn't get it is it possible that i was going to

00:17:15.940 get covid and didn't because of this or no bottom bottom line glenn is that the testing has false

00:17:23.020 negatives and false positives that have been proven over and over and i've had personal experiences of

00:17:29.840 taking care of patients who initially test negative and i'm treating them and they're getting better

00:17:35.760 and then later they get a test after being treated for 11 days and their 90 of their symptoms are gone

00:17:42.400 and it's positive well they they probably had it all along and we're seeing this over and over again

00:17:48.700 where three people in the family have the same symptoms that started at the same time

00:17:52.920 two tests positive one test negative they all have it is symptomatology is what is the term where you

00:18:01.040 look at the big picture you you use common sense you use medic good medical judgment with your training

00:18:07.520 and and you treat the patient you don't treat the test treating the test is killing people but i want

00:18:14.300 to tell you uh this strategy that came to me it was a was when i was looking for a stop gap measure

00:18:21.860 that would help me save someone's life as an emergency room doctor because i also work in the

00:18:26.340 emergency room and back in march uh we were told there was nothing to do wait until they have

00:18:32.060 severe symptoms as a matter of fact they should not be helped at all if they have mild to moderate

00:18:36.280 symptoms wait till they have severe symptoms so me being an er doctor and thinking what am i going

00:18:41.980 to do if someone comes in the emergency room with with their loved ones and they say i can't breathe

00:18:48.060 because this is a respiratory inflammatory disease covet is that causes people to have

00:18:54.000 trouble breathing and breathing is really important yeah i teach advanced problems you know that seems

00:19:00.500 intuitive but people seem you have uh leaders right now i don't know how they became leaders but

00:19:08.680 they're talking about waves and curves how about medicine science facts airway breathing circulation the

00:19:17.140 abcs of cpr of advanced trauma life support of advanced cardiac life support breathing is

00:19:23.820 fundamental and uh when someone can't breathe this is what they look like they many times their lips are

00:19:30.520 blue you can see the panic in their eyes you hear the panic in their voice they might be confused

00:19:35.780 because they're low on oxygen and um some people can tolerate that better than others but we know

00:19:42.780 that the comorbidities that are having trouble with covet and dying are the people who have uh they have

00:19:49.520 diabetes they have they've smoked for 50 years uh they have a heart disease and so they they're

00:19:56.640 reserved and being able to handle low oxygen is less than someone else and the and the dangerous they

00:20:02.740 could die and so uh besides that it's not just an inconvenience what about empathy what about

00:20:10.760 alleviating human suffering there's a place for that still in medicine and just as a human we don't

00:20:16.780 want to see other humans suffer but uh there are some common sense practical proven medical things

00:20:25.400 that we can do and so we know this is an inflammatory disease how about an anti-inflammatory medicine

00:20:31.720 it's a respiratory problem in the lungs is where the inflammation is how about putting the anti-inflammatory

00:20:37.760 medicine to the source of the problem in the lungs with a inhaled inhaled steroid a nebulizer treatment

00:20:46.280 of budesonide which has been out for 25 years which is being used by millions of americans every day

00:20:53.500 that are healthy to protect them from getting sick and so that was the strategy that i've been using

00:20:59.160 and it's working so the busetanide is is something that you looked at and said why are we giving

00:21:07.200 steroids in a tablet form we should be we should be getting that steroid directly into the lungs

00:21:13.840 uh and it is if you get it early enough it stops the correct me if i'm wrong the cytokine

00:21:22.480 uh storms that happen uh and because we know that that is a big problem with this the the our immune

00:21:30.640 system goes into a storm and then it just spirals out of control so if you're saying wait wait wait

00:21:38.180 you you're in the middle of the storm so this logic of waiting until someone is in distress and then

00:21:46.440 helping them has never been employed successfully in american health care forever we don't use that

00:21:53.640 against the top three killers heart attack stroke and cancer let's just say if someone called 9-1-1

00:21:59.220 and they said i have slurred speech and i'm 65 years old and um i smoked for 50 years and all my family

00:22:08.840 has strokes you won't have the 9-1-1 dispatcher say well maybe you're overtired call us when you

00:22:16.360 have severe symptoms that's ridiculous and i would never recommend that that's bad medicine

00:22:21.700 but with this disease we have a situation where the strategy that's been pushed on the american public

00:22:29.080 is if you have mild to moderate symptoms wait until you got severe symptoms uh and then seek help but

00:22:36.260 you know even when people have severe symptoms because by and large people comply with what they're

00:22:41.460 told they have severe symptoms they're short of breath they go to the emergency room

00:22:45.460 and many times they're told uh take tylenol yes you tested positive and yes you feel miserable

00:22:52.200 but you're not sick enough yet go home take tylenol and tough it out and when you get sicker

00:22:57.780 come back that would be like uh a real situation that i took care of a one-year-old who swallowed a

00:23:03.920 quarter and the family brought the kid to the er where i was working i'm the one and the child is not in

00:23:10.820 immediate distress but on the x-ray i see a quarter uh lodged in the throat i could this this is how

00:23:19.160 ridiculous things have gotten i it would be like you don't give a one-year-old tylenol they can't

00:23:24.860 swallow it'd be like me handing them a blankie uh with uh with a little unicorn on it and saying

00:23:31.080 take this child home wrap it in the blankie and sing its favorite song and keep it comfortable 0.77

00:23:37.280 until you have severe symptoms it's ridiculous logic uh we need to take care of people early

00:23:44.460 and and avoid uh the things that are even more dangerous like intubating a patient which can so

00:23:51.460 and put them on a ventilator what are you seeing as far as results on this oh uh oh if you catch this

00:24:02.460 early i'm having uh you can i have one patient who uh with the first treatment that's the only

00:24:10.220 treatment he needed because he was within hours of his fever chills body aches uh he had just been

00:24:15.680 on a plane with with another person behind him that was covid positive and he was concerned and

00:24:21.240 and rightfully so it it turned out to be covid but one breathing treatment stopped all the symptoms

00:24:27.720 and i've had other patients who were sick for well one patient that has uh two kinds of lymphoma

00:24:33.560 cancer in the blood she just received radiation a month before and she's on chemotherapy currently for

00:24:39.920 the cancer and for five days she was flat on on her back in bed with a non-stop fever couldn't sleep

00:24:46.160 and she calls me on a friday says my granddaughter tested positive i heard you on the radio which

00:24:51.220 please help me and so on that friday i call in the breathing treatments and the medicine she takes

00:24:55.780 her first treatment sleeps all night long for the first time in five days she's her fever breaks

00:25:01.020 over the weekend she recovers she's able to teach an eight-hour day of music lessons via skype to her

00:25:08.040 kids on monday and then she tests negative uh twice after having becoming symptom free and so that's what i

00:25:16.220 see the people are telling me many times i hear it very often while they're getting their breathing

00:25:21.180 treatment with budesonide many times they tell me my chest pain is going away my shortness of breath is

00:25:27.480 going away during the treatment i feel much better right after the treatment and this is not a medicine

00:25:32.960 that i invented i'm not looking for new new patients i'm not making any money off of this this costs three

00:25:39.060 dollars for a breathing treatment it's something you can i recommend people being treated early

00:25:45.700 in every disease including this life-threatening pandemic with a medicine that's cheap cost effective

00:25:52.380 they can sit on their couch watch netflix uh and uh for five minutes get a breathing treatment and get

00:25:59.520 relief from their shortness of breath and chest pain that seems like a good idea

00:26:02.600 it made all the difference to tanya i know um she was she would say that she would take the breathing treatment

00:26:12.060 she'd say oh my gosh i feel so much better uh and she took it i don't remember for how many days but she took it

00:26:17.800 for several days uh and it dramatically improved uh her breathing uh and like i said i started it the minute i started

00:26:27.660 feeling any kind of symptoms and i did it for three days i think as well four days and i haven't had

00:26:35.480 i haven't had any problems at all i mean it's been really really miraculous i want to talk to you a

00:26:41.940 little bit about what people should ask their doctor uh and and kind of go over what i uh what i did i think

00:26:49.360 it's pretty much the same thing that louie gohmert is uh is doing are you is he a patient of yours or

00:26:56.400 so uh louie uh i've he's reached out to me uh on my cell phone i've had the privilege of talking to

00:27:04.240 some amazing people who are real public servants including louie gohmert uh and so i've been shocked

00:27:10.940 many times at who's reaching out to me on my cell phone but uh i'm not his doctor uh he has doctors

00:27:17.980 that are taking care of doing excellent care but they're using the strategy that i have recommended and

00:27:23.320 if someone goes to covidsilverbullet.com covidsilverbullet.com you can download the pdf

00:27:29.240 which talks about you click on case study and that talks about glenn this would be interesting to you

00:27:35.540 i i picked two patients uh to highlight uh salient points in the in my care of covid patients and and to

00:27:43.340 uh to explain why i'm doing what i'm doing and one of those patients was the one that uh i described

00:27:49.660 that had initially a negative test and then later tested positive so it happens over and over again

00:27:54.720 this is not uncommon um and where and there's reasons why so you might want to look at that but

00:28:00.060 covidsilverbullet.com has the strategy that i'm using

00:28:03.440 this is the best of the glennbeck program

00:28:08.820 well some things now are being discovered and were written about by uh harvey rosenfeld uh from the

00:28:19.460 represent consumers and uh he has pulled a blanket off of this that is pretty ugly and i want him to go over

00:28:30.000 uh what he has uh found and what's really happening to our data because it's now being used to score you

00:28:36.220 harvey what does that even mean what it means is that a handful of firms uh deep in the shadows of the

00:28:43.580 uh online marketplace are taking this the vast quantity of data that all of our devices spew not

00:28:50.620 just our cell phones but even our tvs and refrigerators and our cars

00:28:55.020 taking taking all this data and turning it through algorithms into a score that determines whether

00:29:02.340 whether we're going to pay more than somebody else for the same product

00:29:06.280 uh at a hardware store uh whether we're going to get a job or get an apartment or get into this

00:29:13.180 college we want to get into it means that some people who are scored are considered crooks

00:29:19.280 because they return uh merchandise that doesn't work uh too often it means that people who some

00:29:26.660 people just are going to get really bad customer service if you have a low score these scores are

00:29:32.260 are developed by these shadowy firms nobody knows anything about the firms nobody knows anything about

00:29:37.600 the scores but they're purchased by some of the major retail uh brands and landlords and employers in

00:29:45.120 the united states and secretly applied to to each of us it's like it's like everybody knows about the credit

00:29:51.080 score but nobody knows about these secret surveillance scores this is really terrifying um a how did you

00:30:00.940 stumble across it and uh what do we do about it well represent consumers is a non-profit

00:30:09.260 organization that is looking at the future trying to figure out what it means for consumers

00:30:13.640 and it's very difficult to find information about it you know the wall street journal then uh the

00:30:19.540 washington post few other very few other papers in the country have uh reported on this so we we did

00:30:27.220 some research my colleague laura antonini and i did some research we we submitted a massive petition a

00:30:33.160 40 page report to the united states federal trade commission urging them to investigate it in 2019

00:30:39.840 they didn't do anything and uh we recently wrote a an op-ed in the washington post which is getting a lot

00:30:46.720 of attention the the point is that you can't unlike that your credit score which at least the law requires

00:30:53.620 you to um to be notified about there is no requirement in the law now with respect to how this information

00:31:02.280 is collected it can be inaccurate it could be unfairly biased against people you can't contest

00:31:09.080 your score we call them the secret surveillance scores you can't contest those scores uh you don't

00:31:15.260 even know who what the company is that's uh issuing the score all you know is that one day you might

00:31:20.280 try to return a product and they will tell you sorry you can't return it because you've been flagged

00:31:26.100 as a basically you've been flagged as a crook so so wait a minute how do we know these companies are

00:31:34.540 using it um somebody's got to be writing the check for it so why can't we find out who the company is

00:31:42.980 how how are they how are they linking up with other companies and i mean they're buying something

00:31:50.040 how come we can't find the seller okay so here's the here's the problem glenn here's here's what's

00:31:56.440 happening in our marketplace right now all of our devices are uh spewing torrents of our data that can

00:32:04.000 be the most intimate data i mean they know where we are they know what we're doing they know what our

00:32:08.920 preferences are they probably know something about you know uh our romantic interests they know about

00:32:14.780 our health all of this data is being collected and it's widely available on the internet

00:32:19.840 and and there are companies called data brokers that purchase it and collect it then they sell

00:32:26.340 our data to these companies that i mentioned deep in the recesses of the marketplace no you've never

00:32:32.280 heard of the names of some of these companies and they have engineers who don't do nothing but take all

00:32:37.260 that data and write algorithms that purport supposedly predict what we're how we're going to behave in the

00:32:45.200 future are we going to be a good quote good consumer or bad consumer those

00:32:49.700 scores are then marketed to companies retail uh clothing companies uh you know hardware hardware

00:32:58.460 chains uh uh colleges people who are you know a large corporations who are do a lot of hiring

00:33:06.900 those folks want to know whether we're going to be good for them so for example if some people may not

00:33:13.860 hire you because your your score shows that you have to commute too far or you may or that the

00:33:19.920 the score predicts that you won't stay at your job so the so the the market starts off and with all of

00:33:27.280 our data ends up in this single digit score that some company is applying to you and you don't know

00:33:33.220 it because there's no requirement that they disclose it to you you know i have to tell you this reminds me

00:33:38.300 a lot of what bill gates was trying to do uh with the eventual um implementation of of common core

00:33:45.980 he was looking for data to be able to say this person should be a gymnast this person should be a

00:33:53.580 mechanic this person should be a doctor and you'd gather all of this information over the years in

00:33:59.800 school and you would be able to point them uh in the right direction really from the first moment that

00:34:09.320 they start to give that data uh to the system and it it kind of takes away your uh you know your own

00:34:19.380 free will and i know that's something that's being debated now on whether we will have free will or not

00:34:25.500 because we'll be so manipulated it's not necessarily a problem that they collect this data and use this

00:34:32.880 data the problem is we can't get access to it i don't know right absolutely right it's it's uh there

00:34:43.900 are no laws that protect americans against the the collection and use of our data in any way so that the

00:34:51.640 at the end of the day this is a lot like as you point out i mean when i was a kid you know we had

00:34:57.280 to fill out a i remember taking a test that was supposedly going to an aptitude test to tell me

00:35:01.940 what i was going to be good at right now we've got these faceless engineers behind in some silicon

00:35:08.420 valley location or could they could be anywhere or overseas and they're programming these algorithms

00:35:13.720 that are supposed to predict with far greater accuracy our behavior as citizens as

00:35:21.580 consumers as taxpayers and as you probably know you know over in china they they have created 0.98

00:35:28.100 something called the social credit system where the government actually scores people on whether

00:35:33.720 they're loyal whether they follow directions whether they cross the street at on a red light i mean

00:35:40.820 that's in china they've taken this on behalf and turned it into a part of the autocratic dictatorship

00:35:47.060 that limits people's choices here here in the united states so far it's all about it's just about

00:35:53.480 commercial enterprise but this but obviously it's a threat so harvey i don't want to get into politics at

00:36:00.300 all um with you but i you know that i'm a conservative and i always thought i have always thought

00:36:08.340 that those on the left and i don't mean the crazy marxist i mean just the people my neighbors that are

00:36:14.640 you know more liberal than i am that that thought that the corporations are going to take over the

00:36:20.820 world and everything else i am worried about our government uh and what it can quickly become

00:36:27.480 but i think i'm more worried about the corporations because they don't have any constitution to regulate

00:36:36.200 them so everything that they do they could sell it to the government give it to the government

00:36:42.300 they could just use it without the government even knowing or caring and we're caught in this little

00:36:49.380 game of theirs where they're trying to get us to do something buy something move somewhere do something

00:36:57.300 you know what i mean it's it's really we become puppets in a play that we don't think we're even in

00:37:05.040 well that's it it sounds a lot like the matrix doesn't it that movie it does it does

00:37:10.980 that's that's really the truth and and this issue transcends any kind of ideology all americans are united

00:37:18.160 against the notion that again that uh their information about them is being deployed like weapons against

00:37:28.100 them by people who we don't even know and and the impact can be very harsh returns it turns americans into

00:37:35.140 second-class citizens some americans who get low scores the uh and and it really it really is

00:37:42.300 inconsistent with what we think of as a free market because now every these scores treat every person

00:37:48.920 as if they were their own market and and the seller no longer has to sell to you if they don't like who

00:37:54.320 you are so uh harvey um how do we say stop our information from going there and what do we do to

00:38:07.600 stop this well i think you're you pointed out the first problem it's just there's we have to we have

00:38:14.380 to have regain control over our information and right now all most of the quote privacy reforms you hear

00:38:22.120 about are sort of stuck in this outdated uh 19th century contract law model well all they have to

00:38:29.260 do is disclose what they're doing to us and then we have to give consent to it but we all consent every

00:38:34.300 day when we buy something you know you click i agree and yes i know you're going to do that when you

00:38:39.080 when we go online to purchase something so there have to be basically our data should be treated like

00:38:44.340 our own personal property and and right it's worth a lot of money to other people

00:38:49.760 if people want to use it and we want to give it to them they have to pay for it they have to

00:38:54.740 actually give us yes money and pay for it so that's the first thing yes the second excuse me the second

00:39:01.180 thing is all about um using these secret surveillance scores we cannot allow a society to develop and it's

00:39:09.180 already well on the way to this that is based on engineers who we don't know drafting coding is the

00:39:17.400 word they use for these algorithms that actually judge us and eventually will use using artificial

00:39:24.420 intelligence these algorithms will be uh able to outthink us and and purport to be able to predict

00:39:33.220 what's going to happen to each of us and whether we're going to be good people or bad people and

00:39:38.020 that's got to be exposed and it's got to be stopped we have at least because it depends on it depends on

00:39:43.720 who's programming those algorithms it can also not only judge us but then it can also shape us to make

00:39:49.180 us into a better citizen whatever the algorithm decides uh that is one quick uh last question harvey

00:39:56.620 um the idea that oh this is just metadata uh there's there's no way to assign that all of that is over

00:40:04.160 because of how fast we can compute now right i mean they can tie everything directly to a citizen

00:40:11.000 no matter what no matter how big it is that's right they say it's all masked so nobody can figure

00:40:17.040 out who you are that's a lie they know how they know who you are they know what you're doing they

00:40:22.180 can connect all the dots the algorithms are help them do that amazing uh thank you for being on this

00:40:29.760 and would love to stay in touch with you uh harvey uh because i am very concerned about big tech and

00:40:37.760 what is happening with these companies they are out of control i'm not a guy that believes in uh

00:40:44.040 breaking things up but i don't know what to do with these companies this is the one place that i could

00:40:49.600 say the founders never thought of they never thought of a company becoming more powerful than the

00:40:56.380 government uh and it is very concerning so anything you need and anything you want to alert people to

00:41:03.220 please reach out we'll take advantage of that thank you very much for this opportunity thank you

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