Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Dr. Robert Epstein & Rep. Chris Stewart ｜ 10⧸7⧸19
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Summary
Dr. Robert Epstein joins the show to talk about his new book, The Joker, and what it's like to be a shadow ban on social media platforms like Google and Facebook. Glenn also discusses the latest in the Trump/Russia scandal and why he thinks they're covering it up.
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Hey, podcasters. Welcome to Monday. Stu's with us, so it's going to be another iffy kind of show.
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Yep. But we have we have Dr. Robert Epstein on again.
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We have the review of the Joker. We also we also spend some time talking a little bit about what it's like to be throttled,
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what it's like to be shadow banned as Twitter and Facebook and YouTube are now shadow banning.
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And we have evidence that we get into right off the bat on today's podcast.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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So we have some news about our special last week.
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We want to thank you so much for being a Blaze subscriber.
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It is it is now the most watched video on the Blaze platform that the Blaze has ever produced.
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That's in nine years. This is the biggest video we have ever produced.
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That's saying something because it was a two hour special and just the chalkboard is 50 minutes long.
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If you go to YouTube or if you go and look for it online, it's not the biggest video we've produced.
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But if it's shared off of the Blaze platform, all of a sudden it's like, it's OK.
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Now, it's still big, still has almost two million views now on all of the different platforms.
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I mean, usually I mean, we've seen this a million times when we have something that hits with our audience here.
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It tends to hit with the YouTube audience and with everybody, with everybody, with everybody.
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And so we've noticed that it's like somebody shifted us into first gear.
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Now, it couldn't be Google and Facebook, could it?
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Now we have something last night or yesterday, I guess, Brad Pascal, who is the Trump social media guy.
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He's a big role in the campaign, I believe now.
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OK, so last night he tweeted, investigate, or this was 17 hours ago, investigate.
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If anything close to this existed, the GOP would play 24-7 on every channel.
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He breaks down the origin of it all and the real collusion against real Donald Trump.
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Then this morning he just tweeted, my average tweet gets 250 to 400,000 impressions.
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This tweet has 40,000, the lowest of any tweet since I became campaign manager.
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Cards are so stacked against us, you won't stop me from getting this out, libs.
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Then Charlie Kirk last night wrote to me and he said, just saw the video, Glenn.
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Charlie just also tweeted, a typical tweet of mine will get 150,000 impressions and 36,000 engagements.
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Yet when I shared the Parskal tweet about truth behind Ukraine, the video of mine, it only got 237.
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I choose to believe that Google, Facebook, Twitter are all innocent and people just don't like you.
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So, if you look at this, this is, by the way, that's not engagements, okay?
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Impressions, 159,000 is, you know, he just compared, his average is 150.
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So, then, Pascal just, or how do you say his name, Pascal, he just tweeted this.
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This appears that Glenn Beck's website URL is causing a conversation quality conversion.
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He says it's a conversation quality conversion.
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Which means impressions are not being shown on those links one step within those that follow me.
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So, in other words, if you follow, you may get the link.
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But if you are one step beyond, there's, the algorithm is stopping it and choking it right after those who volunteer, voluntarily said, I want your tweets.
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So, not everybody's getting that, but no one's passing it on.
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The algorithms are not passing it to anyone else.
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So, and they do that, and look, it's probably their right to do it, but it's an interesting thing that they are doing, and if you're going to get protections from the government.
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I mean, this, this, we should get Ted Cruz on, we should get everybody else that's on with Google.
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I'd like to talk to Robert Epstein and have him look into this.
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There is, there is absolutely no reason why this video is not being shared.
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There's no, it, by the way, it is, it's a banned video, you know, how they ban for that, that, it's only 2%, you know, where you can't watch it in, in college, you can't watch it in a school campus, you can't watch it.
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It's any, they do it, like, it's a legitimate idea, the restricted mode thing, right?
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Because, yeah, they don't put porn on YouTube, I don't think, but they don't, but it's stuff like, you know, sometimes there's violent videos, there could be, like, you know, sometimes the story with, of, let's say, even the Holocaust, right?
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But with all the imagery might be in restricted mode.
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But again, like, your video, while it has, I mean, other than boring children to death, is not going to do anything harmful.
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I love the people who have been saying, oh, it's a conspiracy.
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I, I engaged so many people who are just, uh, just haters, just haters that were like, oh, Glenn Beck, you're an idiot.
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Just let's just stick to the, the documents, the court documents, the sworn affidavits, the audio recordings.
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Can you tell me what's wrong with any of those?
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Audio recordings, typically of, of officials on tape saying they worked with the Clinton administrator, the Clinton people to, um, to hurt Donald Trump during the election.
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This is a hidden recording, by the way, of them at dinner.
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So it's not like they were like on stage for some reason to try to, uh, send a message or anything like that.
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Play the tape again if we happen to have it still here.
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Uh, so you won't be able to understand it, but maybe you'll be able to understand the word Clinton in there.
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And we had the translation, by the way, we had to go through multiple hoops to get the translation from an actual Ukrainian translation company.
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Um, because there wasn't an English translation that existed in the video, which is weird.
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Cause it's, it was on the front page of one of the papers in Ukraine.
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This was part of a trial where they convicted two people in Ukraine, two people, I mean, you want to talk about closely, uh, related to the Obama administration.
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The guy who was running the anti-corruption bureau, really, to run this bureau that they put in because they thought Ukraine was too corrupt.
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And as the, the government was trying to investigate the anti-corruption bureau with Obama was like, no, no, no, no, no.
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They're bringing up, well, she, she, her position teetered.
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Why would two officials in Ukraine be talking about the Clinton Foundation when they were talking about how corrupt they were in helping win the election or helping Hillary try to win the election?
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It's almost as if the Clinton administration wasn't really a charity.
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How much, I mean, maybe they're doing all sorts of incredible things right now and I'm just missing them.
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But I haven't heard word one from any journalist about all the things the Clinton Foundation has done for people since the election ended.
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You know, I haven't heard word one about the organization.
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If you lost, wouldn't this be like your retirement thing to do if it was really a charity?
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It's almost like all those countries that gave money and then strangely got a meeting with the Secretary of State.
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So here are these guys on tape saying that they helped Hillary Clinton.
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I suppose they tried to help Trump, but these are Ukrainians and they're admitting that they
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And the main guy who is speaking here is the guy who ran the anti-corruption bureau.
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First of all, I told you this a few weeks ago that it is really important that you sign up for, um, my newsletter.
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at glennbeck.com because that's a way that we have to directly contact you with no filter.
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Uh, I, I almost, almost think maybe possibly have the purse strings almost open to be able to get the, uh, to get, to be able to hire some
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investigative journalist and hole them up in a room like the New York Times does and really take this open.
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All it requires is some organization to take it on and actually do it.
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Well, we just, that's probably a million dollars to be able to do an investigation like this.
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And why is Google and Facebook doing everything they can to make sure that this word doesn't get out?
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Uh, he is a guy who we have, um, had on several times.
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He is a guy that was a Clinton supporter, um, and voted for Clinton.
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The other side has eaten him now because he dare cross the line and say, hey, there's
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something going on with, with Google and their algorithms.
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Uh, and he has been watching the election and we've, we've got to help this man raise
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enough money to be able to, uh, document what this next election, what is happening with
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this next election because Google, we know they have said, we can't let this happen again.
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Uh, and he's the only one that is, is in the position to document this.
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So I want to just touch base with you today because, um, we have, we have some, uh,
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Um, it is a video that has more views on the platform by far than anything we've done
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And yet on YouTube and Facebook, it's, it's performing well, but not like that.
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We now have two people who, um, have tweeted it, who have gigantic followings, uh, and they
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can't, that one had engagement of 237 and they have, you know, uh, uh, millions of followers.
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I can't get this thing over, you know, 2000, uh, likes.
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How do we prove that we're being throttled here?
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Well, uh, as, as you may recall in 2016, I built a monitoring system, uh, which allowed
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me with people's permission to look over the shoulders of users, uh, around the country.
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At that point, I had 95 field agents in 24 States and basically see what they were seeing
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on their screens as they were conducting searches on Google, Bing, and Yahoo.
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So we, we preserved more than 13,000 election related searches, uh, 2018, we built a bigger
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We preserved, uh, not only search results, but we also preserved search suggestions and answer
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boxes, uh, 2020, we're going to build an enormous system with thousands of field agents, and we're
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I'm not going to go through the whole list, but among other things, we are going to preserve,
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uh, tweets that will document, that will show without any doubt, that will quantify, uh, what
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And that's what you and your colleagues are running into.
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Uh, basically if Twitter, uh, personnel believe that you're violating any of their terms of service,
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which we're not, uh, well, you know, that's very subjective though.
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Uh, what they, what they do is they can either down rank you and they admit this by the way,
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So people don't, don't see you because you're not high in any lists.
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You're, you're, you're, you're popping up very, very low or actually shadow ban, which means
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you send out a tweet to your 2 million followers, but your 2 million followers aren't getting
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the tweet period, uh, or just a small portion of them are getting it.
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But we now have a way of actually documenting this, recording it, quantifying it.
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Uh, so we're going to have rock solid evidence in 2020.
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If Twitter is doing this, uh, we are going to, we are going to document it, prove it, and
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we're going to release our findings to the media and to a federal election commission to
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So we're going to be tracking all kinds of things with a very large panel of field agents
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So we also are having a problem with YouTube and, uh, it's not, it's not popping up the way
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We're going to be watching YouTube, uh, many, many different, uh, ways in which affect five
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different ways in which Facebook, uh, suppresses material.
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Um, I'm not even going to tell you how many ways we're going to be monitoring.
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Don't Google, Google, Google is the biggest threat there is, uh, to the free and fair election.
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Uh, but I can tell you, I am, I am positive that these companies, uh, if there's no monitoring
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system in place, these companies are going to go all out and together, uh, I calculate
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that they can shift 15 million votes next year with no one knowing that they've done
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it and without leaving a paper trail for authorities to trace.
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I'm having real problems getting my, uh, my space posts to even be seen.
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I don't know if you can look into that for me, doctor.
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Um, so, um, the, the, the, the scary thing here is, is that this is such an obvious,
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uh, shadow ban, uh, there's just no way these metrics are even right.
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They don't care that I'm on the air talking about them doing this.
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They don't care that you're doing, they don't care.
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In fact, uh, you know, we learned a lot about shadow banning January of 2018.
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And let me just read you a quote from, uh, a, a former software engineer.
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His last name is Vadrevu, V-A-D-R-E-V-U about shadow banning.
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So here's a former Twitter software engineer quote, the idea of a shadow ban is that you
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ban someone, but they don't know they've been banned because they keep posting and no
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So they just think that no one is engaging with their content when in reality, no one
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is seeing it and quote, uh, so, uh, uh, project Veritas interviewed about a half a dozen current
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I recommend people look that up, which is entitled is Twitter really censoring free speech?
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Uh, where Forbes went to Twitter and asked, you know, ask these tough questions.
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And in this wonderful article, they report, uh, Twitter's responses.
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Twitter, uh, like Google, like Facebook, they answer questions about, about content suppression,
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Uh, because Twitter said, no, we don't shadow ban, but oh yes, we do down rank.
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Uh, and we make decisions about how to protect, uh, you know, our users from content they shouldn't
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That is, that's, that is an amazing, it's an amazing quote.
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Um, yeah, they, they, uh, let's, I have it here.
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They won't allow any external committees or, you know, to come in and look, look over what
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And they will not release the demographic characteristics of the people they use to
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We do take actions to down rank accounts that are abusive and mark them accordingly so that
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people can still click through and see the tweets if they so choose, which of course no
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They don't go, they don't click on the named accounts.
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I freaking love the mute feature, but I'm choosing to do it.
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There's tons of people who are calling me a Nazi every single day that I don't see, but
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Like they're wondering, they tweet all the time negative things to me and I'm just like
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mute, mute, mute, mute me because I don't care.
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Uh, but that shouldn't, that should be something that the user does.
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That should not be something that Twitter is doing for us.
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Well, this, this is the problem, or I should say one of the big three problems.
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Uh, the, the, the first one is the surveillance.
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Uh, second is the, uh, the censorship and the third is manipulation.
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And here we're talking about the censorship problem.
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And, uh, you know, you don't know what you don't know.
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So censorship is so dangerous because, uh, you know, if material is being suppressed, content
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And of course, what I, what I study is how, uh, you know, these kinds of, uh, of activities
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shift people's thinking, uh, beliefs, attitudes, and of course shifts their voting preferences.
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And it is astonishing, uh, the impact that these kinds of manipulations have on people's
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You know, it's really interesting because I read the New York times.
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I listen to the daily every day, you know, cause I want to be informed on what they are
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I, I need to understand all sides of an issue and I want to see what, you know, what they
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are publishing or what they aren't publishing and what their spin is when they do.
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Uh, and it is incredible to me that there are many people who, uh, are on the right who don't
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necessarily know they'll blame the New York times for never covering such a, and they will
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However, the mainstream media in bulk, they don't watch, listen, or pay any attention to
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what people on the other side are saying and report it as fact, or even just, this is the
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And after the last election, I had a friend come down who was a liberal and paid no attention
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And we told him about all of the different things that had happened in the Obama administration,
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And so they can report things, but by the way they report it, or by the way they downplay
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it, et cetera, et cetera, half the country isn't, doesn't even, isn't even aware of what
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Well, this also is, is a, is a, is a worse problem than any censorship in history, because
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when these big tech companies suppress material, there's no way to counteract it.
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In other words, uh, Google has no competition, has no competitor really anywhere in the world.
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Uh, neither does Facebook, uh, neither does Twitter.
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I mean, there, there, you know, if, if these platforms want to suppress material, you can't
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In other words, if you, if, if the newspaper published, you know, on one side of, uh, Pittsburgh
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wants to suppress something, well, you know, chances are there's a newspaper, something or
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other on the other side of Pittsburgh, uh, where they're going to bring that material out.
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But you can't, you can't counteract it when, uh, Google, Facebook, or Twitter suppresses
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In fact, generally, unless someone like me builds monitoring systems, you can't even detect
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Uh, Robert, I, I can't thank you enough for all of the hard work that you are putting through.
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If you would like to donate, um, please donate.
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And if there happens to be wealthy people that are listening right now, please donate
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generously to my Google research.com, my Google research.com.
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This is a guy who's actually just searching for answers and the truth.
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And, um, and right now he happens to be on the outs with the left because, uh, that's,
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you know, who's generally, um, controlling these companies.
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Um, but you do the same if it was controlled by the right.
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And Congressman Chris Stewart joins us now as he's getting on an airplane to,
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I'm curious to ask Chris, uh, you know, obviously these latest developments, what
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He's on the Intel, uh, he's going through security.
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Uh, so, uh, yeah, when he gets, when he picks his phone back up out of the
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little round cup, uh, we'll, uh, we'll have him on.
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He's seen the second whistleblower and we want to talk to him about that.
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I don't know how much he can talk about with that.
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They say this is like, not only the smoking gun, it's the second smoking gun.
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Like they, the first one wasn't really smoking.
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When Rudy Giuliani was on television saying he was going to do these things.
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I kind of thought that was a smoking gun that they were doing it.
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Well, that was kind of a interesting turn of events.
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Now there is more to it, I guess, with the money being withheld and maybe we'll
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We still haven't, but there's still, you know, we, I do want to ask Chris if he's,
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if he's also seen the full testimony or was present of this person, of the
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people talking about Volcker and the other people involved here talking about
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Cause if you remember, this was like when some of the Trump officials were saying
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things like, look, you know, it's my, is it my understanding that we're supposed
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to withhold this security assessment, the money essentially for until this
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And then the other guy's like, Oh no, you misunderstand what the Trump
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We want to do only the best things with unicorns and puppy dogs.
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It's like one of those things of where you could tell both of them are trying to
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But predictably after this testimony happened, the Democrats bring out everything
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that I would assume is the worst, most damning information.
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And we haven't heard anything from the other side of it.
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Republicans universally that have seen this information seem to be coming out and
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saying, if you see the full testimony, you're going to understand what was going
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And it's an interesting point, but you know, it's also predictably partisan lines.
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Obviously he is a Republican, but he seems to be pretty honest.
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He's putting his belt in his shoes back on right now.
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Did you, did you see the whistleblower report and can you talk about it?
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There's been some redacted portions, but this is pretty much in the public realm.
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So we can talk about almost all that except for some small portions.
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I mean, this seems like just another guy who's saying, yep, that phone call happened.
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I mean, I said yesterday on some media that I thought this was going to come forward because
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it was obvious that this guy had been having some, this guy or girl had been having conversations
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and that they were, that they were interested in talking about it.
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But as I said yesterday, what difference does it make?
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All they can say is, as you started to say, Glenn, yep, I listened or I read the transcript
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You could, you or any of your listeners could read that in seven seconds.
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And other than that, what, what can he tell us that's helpful at all?
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I don't need some, you know, some secret analyst who tells me what this means.
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So tell me about, if you can, the, the text messages that were last week, they were revealed.
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Although a little more limited because it was an executive session and, and we have to
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But this is, this is just the bottom line on this.
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And this is so malicious and it's so deliberate because what they have done is they've taken
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little snippets of it, not even, not even an entire short text in its entirety, but little
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And they leak that because once again, this is an executive session and it's not supposed
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And it creates an impression that is absolutely 100% contrary to the facts or the entirety of
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And that is Mr. Volker and others came and they said there clearly was no quid pro quo.
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He has very plausible, very, very reasonable explanations for the timing of the meetings.
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Uh, you know, the timing of their intention to withhold this, uh, this age of Ukraine that
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was based entirely on them trying to pressure Angela Merkel and others in the EU.
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And, uh, these guys will take little pieces of it.
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And by the time the truth comes out, when they'll release a transcript that will show in
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its entirety what it actually means to the damage is already done.
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Um, but, uh, I laid a chalkboard out and it took me about 50 minutes.
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Everything in it, we have verified sources on there's, there wasn't a bit of conjecture
00:34:59.760
100% based on fact, uh, and it outlines that the Democrats did in Ukraine exactly everything
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And yet no one in the media cares to cover this.
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It's the biggest video we have done in almost the 10 year history of the blaze on the platform.
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It's gigantic, but we are being throttled down.
00:35:31.540
Um, you know, Charlie Kirk said he gets, uh, about 150, uh, about 150,000 views of everything
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Uh, and I'm wondering where anyone is on, on, on turning this around back on the Democrats.
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Is there, is there anybody who is on this trail?
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I mean, there's a number of us who are trying and, and I was actually listening to you earlier
00:36:06.660
as, as I was running and talking about this 50 minute chalkboard and the, and the lack
00:36:12.680
And, uh, and I would ask, I mean, I'm not terribly surprised.
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In fact, frankly, I would have been surprised if you wouldn't have had that kind of response
00:36:21.680
I don't think it's muted, but it's clearly throttled, but, but this is just one example.
00:36:26.160
And Glenn, let me give you another one that we've been talking about for years that is
00:36:30.040
I mean, the Democrats are making this argument that the president needs to be impeached and
00:36:35.020
removed from office because of one sentence in one conversation that he readily made available.
00:36:42.380
He released that thing within a few days of, of anyone asking for it.
00:36:46.660
On the other hand, versus this story, Hillary Rodney Clinton and the DNC paid a foreign agent
00:36:53.900
who then worked with other Russian, Russian agents to do what to dig up dirt on their political
00:36:59.920
opponent in order to affect the outcome of an election, which is the room that you hear
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all the time regarding president Trump, what he said to Ukraine.
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Your experience here is just one more example of them.
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Look, to call them biased is an incredible understatement.
00:37:21.520
They're advocates now and they're dishonest advocates.
00:37:29.000
Well, so the only, the only solution here is, is that the Senate, because you can't in
00:37:34.160
the house, that the Senate, uh, starts to look into this, this corruption with the, with
00:37:41.020
the Democrats, I mean, why are we playing defense when we should be playing offense?
00:37:47.200
Why isn't the Senate taking this on and saying, you know what?
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We'd like to, we'd like to find out exactly what was happening in Ukraine.
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And you go ahead and investigate the president.
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We're going to be investigating what was happening in Ukraine and why people went to prison or
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I think it was overturned, but it's back in court today, but they were convicted, uh,
00:38:17.440
We have a tape of the guy who was the head of the anti-corruption bureau in Ukraine, actually
00:38:25.220
admitting to helping Hillary Clinton win the election.
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Or, I mean, uh, you know, tried, tried to win the election.
00:38:35.800
I mean, I'm as powerless as a kitten in the house being in the minority, unfortunately,
00:38:41.920
But, uh, but as you said, the Senate, Lindsey Graham and others in the Senate do have the
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And I think Lindsey's indicated, uh, more than a willingness to do that.
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And there's one other tool that we have that I think may be more effective.
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Oh my gosh, this guy is a hero to me because he is fearless.
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He had, he's not out to make a name or a reputation.
00:39:06.040
He's been there, done that doesn't need to do it again.
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And I believe he is, as I said, committed to investigating not only the origins of the,
00:39:14.340
of the FISA warrant and the other, um, as we know, the other activities going back to
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But I think, uh, I think it'd be surprised if he didn't look at Ukraine as well.
00:39:27.760
We have, we have documented evidence, Chris, um, uh, please watch that, uh, that video.
00:39:35.100
We have documented evidence that a DNC operative will, uh, uh, put all of this information
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together, um, and sent it to, uh, Michael Isikoff.
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Now I'm not saying that Michael knew what he was, what he was, that he was being used,
00:39:52.220
but in that text message, she, or that email, she's alluding to the Steele dossier, which
00:39:59.600
is one of the things, if I'm not mistaken, that was used, uh, for the FISA report was,
00:40:09.880
I mean, look, this, this was talking about circular reasoning or circular logic.
00:40:14.000
This was a FISA document based on the Steele dossier, which I just described the origins
00:40:19.540
of that to, by the way, painfully, painfully hidden under there was the fact that they
00:40:27.780
But in a, in a footnote that I defy anyone to read that footnote where they describe where
00:40:32.920
they got this information and who funded it and to actually understand who did it it's a very
00:40:37.540
clear effort to to be uh to be deceitful and deceptive in that but then as additional evidence
00:40:43.860
what do they use as you just said michael isikoff's reporting and which where did he get his
00:40:48.580
information from from christopher steel uh so i mean their backup is the same document it was
00:40:55.120
just leaked to a reporter and they claim that that is a secondary source when clearly it's not
00:40:59.420
and they knew that it wasn't chris thank you so much we'll talk to you again thanks for the hard
00:41:04.460
work you're doing on this i appreciate it this is the best of the glenn beck program
00:41:11.000
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but while you're there do us a favor and rate the show so i went to uh i went to joker and not it not
00:41:34.220
knowing what to expect um but after hearing so many people talk about it uh i was expecting the most
00:41:41.200
violent movie ever filmed uh and uh i was quite surprised on the way there i even you know said
00:41:49.860
to myself if it turns out to be that kind of gratuitous violence where it's man's inhumanity
00:41:56.420
demand i'm leaving uh and i'll walk out um because i just don't want to put that in to me i just don't
00:42:03.700
i don't like i just don't like watching you know torture say pretty much any mel gibson movie there's a
00:42:12.500
part where they're always just torturing mel and he's hanging from chains and and you know you're like
00:42:17.220
okay i got it i got it i got it um so i expected joker to be really really really twisted and what i
00:42:26.200
found was the opposite in many ways um this movie is unlike any superhero or any comic book uh movie i've
00:42:39.120
ever seen uh this one is realistic um this takes place in the 1970s they even open with the old warner
00:42:50.340
brothers uh logo from the 70s it looks like it's you know made on film at least at the beginning i mean
00:42:57.280
it is really uh it's really really well done joaquin phoenix is brilliant in this movie
00:43:07.440
but what i didn't expect was that for the first three quarters of the movie
00:43:14.920
i would find myself saying this is a tragedy this is so incredibly sad
00:43:27.000
because he's clearly disturbed and and joaquin phoenix really plays this very very well um and
00:43:37.920
he plays a character who is a clown and the first scene i won't give anything away the first scene
00:43:46.100
um opens with him getting you know mugged by some kids he's doing a you know a clown thing on the street
00:43:54.060
and um uh and he gets mugged and beaten by these these kids and you come to find out that that's
00:44:02.940
kind of the life he lives he has lived this life where he's always been picked on always been bullied
00:44:10.560
he's obviously clearly very mentally unstable he had already been been in arkham uh when he was
00:44:20.780
when he was younger he lives with his mom he has no real life none whatsoever uh and nobody sees him
00:44:30.580
and nobody listens to him and when they do they beat him up and you will go through the first uh three
00:44:39.960
quarters of this movie uh i think feeling really bad for him and i don't like movies that turn the
00:44:50.580
villain into the villain into the good guy and the good guys into a bad guy which i thought was
00:44:56.100
where they were going with it um it's not um and i was greatly relieved of that i don't know the
00:45:06.400
director and the writer's uh pov i don't know what they were trying to do but the joker pretty much
00:45:14.920
is leading you know in the end we all know that he you know becomes a leader wait what that's total
00:45:22.480
spoiler alert no and he hates batman oh my god okay thanks for giving the whole i don't have to
00:45:27.840
watch the sequel but this is this is occupy wall street this is antifa yeah um i've heard that from
00:45:35.660
several people who said the politics of this are not yeah they've been advertised no very left he's a
00:45:41.640
left winger essentially well he's or at least the group he's not here's here's where here's where
00:45:48.160
you could see it as left is if you think that the left cares about people but uh really because he's
00:45:59.180
he is genuine on i just can't we be nice to each other it the the social media uh commentary that at
00:46:08.480
least i got from it they don't talk about social media this is taken in the 70s um but uh to me
00:46:14.980
his rant is about us you know nobody's nice to each other why does everybody mean to one another
00:46:22.000
why does everybody just say horrible things about one another um that's not what the crowd is doing
00:46:29.000
the crowd is getting you know the anti-rich uh hate the wealthy hate those in power disrupt the
00:46:36.960
system burn it all down that's not what that's not what he's saying and i would guess in future
00:46:44.100
movies i i'm hoping he is asked to be playing the joker again in uh in sequels because i i thought he
00:46:51.260
was brilliant he deserves an oscar for sure um but uh uh he's gonna end up again i think just being used
00:47:01.900
and beaten because he's he's clearly insane and not smart enough to be putting things together
00:47:08.460
he's not like the joker that we've all seen where he's this mastermind right he's not he's not
00:47:14.880
that's interesting i mean it does seem like the the media is ridiculous right they make these fake
00:47:20.880
controversies out of everything and this was the you know the initial push on this was well it's
00:47:26.040
gonna cause mass shootings well if it does it'll be because of the left because it is a message of
00:47:31.620
the left not the right it's antifa they keep saying it's incels it's gonna make incels essentially
00:47:38.900
involuntarily involuntary celibates i believe just just used to be the losers well it might i mean it
00:47:46.560
look if you are unstable yeah uh and you go to see this you will relate to him and so it's the same way
00:47:54.820
people would relate to um uh edward norton in fight club right yeah like you kind of like there's
00:48:00.660
these anti-heroes that wind up being heroes to certain segments of the society he's not a hero
00:48:06.020
he's not a hero in any way but that but neither i mean could you know edward norton i mean again
00:48:12.720
spoiler alert was a terrorist i think there's it's impossible to to see him as anything else if you
00:48:18.060
actually watch the movie seriously right not edward norton the person by the way i'm talking about his
00:48:21.900
character in this particular movie um and you know it's one of those things where that happens
00:48:26.020
a lot what's his face um what was the one where where uh anonymous was using it um guy fawkes right
00:48:32.420
yeah yeah yeah guy fawkes was not a good guy but guy that was 1600s but the movie was not 1600s the
00:48:40.200
movie came out you know relatively recently yeah and was used as a symbol for uh a lot of but he was
00:48:47.600
for occupy wall street and that fits they weren't good well but they they they thought mass shooter
00:48:55.080
says that they're heroic i know right like i know everybody thinks you know hitler thought he was
00:49:00.240
heroic right everybody thinks they're heroic or comes up with a way to justify their hero i personally
00:49:05.860
think that if we all saw joker and we could all be adults we could have a very good conversation i think
00:49:14.740
it's a great conversation starter you know it's one that you can walk out of and and say so what does
00:49:22.680
that say about society who are who's he talking about and and and have a real conversation because
00:49:30.880
it's i mean how many of these shooters do we know are crazy they're not they're they're they're not
00:49:38.720
getting proper care you know and they feel isolated and bullied well that's what's really happening our
00:49:46.360
our society is sick it's sick and i i think this is the movie of our day i really do i think i don't i
00:49:56.340
don't know what to um compare it to um but it is i i think it's the the maybe saturday night fever
00:50:08.320
of the 70s where it was it just encapsulated that time and it was like that's that's that year
00:50:16.320
this is now so two questions for you yeah number one i like movies that do challenge me make me think
00:50:24.080
maybe have conversations after however that needs to be paired with it actually being a freaking
00:50:28.460
good movie okay so here's how i here's how i by itself is it a good movie here's how i reviewed it
00:50:32.640
this is a great film 100 great one of the better films made it is also one of the best movies i've seen
00:50:45.600
in a long time wow yeah okay so it's not a do not go to it thinking that you're going to be preached
00:50:52.240
too i'm not no you're not going to be preached to take it if you want to find it you can add
00:50:55.900
additional layers of conversation if you want to but you don't have to you don't have just a good
00:50:59.860
movie yeah it's a good movie nobody's preaching to you um it's still a gotham movie but it is the
00:51:06.860
least batman it's probably the lowest body count batman even on television i mean from adam west i mean
00:51:15.460
it's it's a for a movie in today's world of you know violent movies this a very low body count okay
00:51:23.240
my second question is more personal yeah i find myself falling into a very familiar pattern which is
00:51:29.240
i don't like superhero movies and then everyone starts talking about a superhero movie and i think
00:51:34.620
maybe this one's going to be good and then i go to see it and it sucks this one's not a superhero
00:51:39.640
movie did you like the batman christopher nolan batmans i liked batman begins i remember really
00:51:46.880
liking the that was the is that the one before the one with heath ledger the the one before that
00:51:52.600
okay very dark and i liked it right that's that's christopher nolan yeah christopher nolan i think did
00:51:57.940
the best batman you know the batman series it was very dark yeah yeah and it was realistic ish
00:52:05.400
you know what i mean yeah this is you could say you could say that this is not in gotham it's in
00:52:14.860
new york city and there is no batman and you could you would be comfortable even the way he dresses in
00:52:22.080
the in the outfit with the green hair you would go i could see that a realistic it's very it's a very
00:52:29.060
it's the most realistic batman uh or any super movie that i've ever seen if you make me go see
00:52:36.100
this movie and it sucks i am holding you personally responsible it's going on your record you will be
00:52:41.300
noted i i just i just want everybody else to know i'm only giving this review so he will go to this
00:52:46.760
it's awful it's awful don't fool me again you always know you gotta go you gotta go to it i i think
00:52:55.880
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