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Glenn Brooks is joined by Alan Dershowitz and Dr. Robert malone on the show to discuss the latest controversy surrounding the NFL's new ad campaign featuring a line that says "Football is a game without gay" and why that's a bad idea. Plus, Glenn talks about why he doesn't want to hear about sex in the bedroom.
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well i think this advertisement is uh this approach to the nfl is going to be wildly successful and i for
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one am proud of the nfl uh they've just uh released some new verbiage uh for the nfl do you have the
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nfl music let me just give it to you football football is lesbian i'm not making this up by the
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way this is their actual football is lesbian football is beautiful football is queer football is life
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football is exciting football is culture football is transgender football is queer football is heart
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football is power football is tough football is also bisexual football is strong football is freedom
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football is american football is accepting football is everything football
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is for everyone oh that is this is fantastic um and i you know i think the the nfl diversity
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director uh told out sports i'm proud of the clear message this commercial sends to the nfl's lgbtq
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plus fans this game is unquestionably for you i'll be playing that first line over and over
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in my head all season football is lesbian okay all right um i didn't know that the game had sexual
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preferences uh actually football glenn is known as the most lesbian of balls
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it's a fact hmm hmm huh okay all right um you know i think that uh the football fan
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could be lesbian straight queer uh you know non-binary the football fan can be anything
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but football itself is a football is a game and it should remain that way i'm just i'm just thinking
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well you can't say you can't say football is a game without gay
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well yes you can't i forgot um there's no why in game
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game glenn game do you think that's a coincidence no it is not they've been planning this forever i
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actually do think especially since it's not spelled anywhere close you know you'd have to get rid of
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the m and the e get rid of the me and football game and then add a y for you there football is for you
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well you know how they used to spell women w-o-m-y-n you can do g-a-y-m-e it's a
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the game this is so this is so ridiculous isn't it oh it's so i was i was watching uh i was on twitter
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yesterday and you know the twitter gives you ads sir you know serves me ads based on my algorithm
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and apparently my algorithm is telling them i want to see ads about pride week from proctor and gamble
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or pride month excuse me about proctor and gamble so the the makers of tide and cascade
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are telling me about love and they go through this whole thing in the very end there's this guy he's
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like you know i just i just wish there was a time where we just didn't have to say all this
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yet you've arrived you've arrived in the time it's here congratulations we don't need to be we don't
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need to hear every little itty bitty detail of what goes on in your bedroom i don't care about
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it i don't want to know about it you don't have to tell me about it the people who make detergent
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don't have to tell me about it just stop telling me about it you know may i may i go a step further
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i have a lot of you know i have a lot of gay friends who think that straight sex is icky
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so you know what we don't talk about sex okay we don't and i think that's i think that's pretty
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universal um i don't want to hear about sex i don't want i mean now maybe it's different in the
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um you know in the tom brady realm where everybody is a beautiful person but right i've been to america
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and that's not the way it generally is uh and so i just think we should stop talking about what
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you're doing in your bedroom because like stew i not only don't care um i find it icky you know and
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that could be straight sex you know let me tell you boy the wife and i had we tied one on last night
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i don't want to hear it i don't want to hear it yes we exist here to try to forget and not picture
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what you're doing in your bedroom whether you're straight or gay or whatever just stop talking
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about it let's all hope that i almost just kind of want to forget that's how we reproduce let's
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just forget about it completely i don't want to hear anything about it really is an icky process
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i mean you could go into this is wow really god had to make it feel really good otherwise everybody
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be like i'm gonna do what no i don't think so that's so true it doesn't make any sense it's a
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terrible idea if it didn't feel good you wouldn't be doing it you just wouldn't be doing you're like
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what are you taking your pants off for god stop it keep them on keep them on it's hot people are
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sweaty it's smelly just keep everything on everyone we bundle up yeah you know maybe we've we've
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criticized islamic extremists before but maybe they've got something on whatever we where you can't
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see anybody's human body i mean there's something to the idea that we all just kind of cover
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ourselves and can only see eyes that i you know i've walked around the united states of america
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been through many malls over the years in texas it's 117 degrees everyone's sweaty and wearing
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really tight things just stop wear maybe maybe a tarp let's go to the homer simpson moomoo thing and
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just just embrace it it was a good look i think we should do it look yesterday i told you i was i was
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going to be doing interpretive dance uh on how how racist the constitution is yes if you missed
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yesterday's show go back for the podcast in hour three i read the actual report from the national
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archives saying that the uh the national archives saying that the declaration of independence and
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the bill of rights is uh confusing and shows our racist uh history and their solution is
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to have interpretive dance happening when you go to try to see the declaration of independence
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and so i said yesterday i i'm all for interpretive dance in fact i'm going to do one and the reason why
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he said that is because you don't even want to think about me doing you know what i mean
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there's like when my daughter was in ballet my son and i were like you know i think you could slice you
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could put a piece of sliced toast in that guy's butt cheeks you know i mean you just you could just
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put a slice of toast right there and he could hold it the entire dance me you could put an entire
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toaster toaster oven between my cheeks you know what i mean and uh so it's not good it's not good
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nobody wants to hear it no can we move on because i'm uncomfortable um jake tapper uh wow uh has lost
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75 of his audience since january i wonder why that is wonder why that is i have the answer do you want
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to hear the answer sure racism um in other news um you know some bigots might say it's things like
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what was said on msnbc last night listen to this why do you think we're seeing an uptick in crime
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happening right now i think it's a combination of things and we have to understand that police officers
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are the backbone patrol particularly are the backbone of any police department and this reminds me of
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back in the day when i was on lapd when officers feelings were hurt and uh they had the term blue flu
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where officers openly talked about slow response to radio calls you can you can break a police chief
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if response time is low if you're not clearing crimes if you're not responding to high priority calls
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shootings in progress murder robbery and so officers now we see across these 18 000 police departments
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are butthurt because you know they can't run willy-nilly through a police department and abuse
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with reckless abandon so they're stepping away from specialized units too cowardly to quit
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outright the department but they're stepping away wow wow so they're too they're cowardly now police
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they're butthurt because they can't uh they can't just get away with all their racism could i just
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remind everyone um that uh derek chauvin uh had was never they didn't even bring it up in court uh even
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the holy corrupt uh keith ellison didn't say that this was about race because there's no case that that
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was about race and yet uh george floyd is being held up as the hero that finally turned things around
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for the bigoted racist cop in in the in the court of law race was not brought into this argument so how is
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this happening and by the way it's not that the police are butthurt you've beaten the police back
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you've beaten them down i don't know i might learn a lesson and not put myself into a situation
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where i'm gonna go to jail i'm gonna lose my family i'm gonna lose my reputation i'm gonna be known as
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a bigot racist throughout all of american history because you have an agenda that's not butthurt
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that's smart that's smart that's self-preservation yeah and we went through a study a week or two ago
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about black lives matter and what has actually happened with it where they say the study basically
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said they had saved 300 lives between 2014 and 2019 for of potential police shootings unfortunately they
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caused between one and six thousand murders by civilians against other civilians so many more black
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lives were lost because of black lives matter then were saved um but in there they talk about uh the
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effect the what they call the ferguson effect which is in some ways seemingly what she's trying to allude
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to here uh and the the idea is basically that police get sick of being called genocidal maniacs every
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tuesday and decide hey i'm gonna you know look unless i really have to jump into something i'm not gonna jump
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into it because every time we jump into something we get accused of these terrible things and our lives
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get destroyed when we're trying to help people so they don't jump in unless it's a super serious crime
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so we're seeing signals of this all around the country where murders and rapes and the most serious
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of crimes are going way way up while many property crimes are not because the police are are hesitant
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when they know maybe a life might not be on the line to jump into any of these situations because they don't
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want to expose themselves to a situation that's going to escalate out of control so they're jumping into
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less of fewer of these situations because of that that's a huge problem you know i mean and what happens when
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you vilify an entire class of people that are trying to help you results are usually negative and we're seeing
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that the results all around the country are really negative it's not because they're cowards it's
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because they're intelligent by the way uh police i think it was in portland over the weekend had to
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uh come out and beg no violence no violence the person that was shot was white no violence no violence
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no violence nobody cared about what happened they didn't say hey uh well this this shooting happened and
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uh it was justified they didn't care they only cared what color the person was that's a sign of a deep
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deep problem by the way rudy giuliani and alan dershowitz in hour number three today you don't want to miss
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talk about what's just happened to rudy giuliani and it's never happened before and it should concern
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people a great deal um and i'll let alan and uh rudy explain it um it is it's it could affect all of us
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if you don't like the client you don't go after the attorney um and uh it's never been done before
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in fact the head of the nl uh the um uh aclu in new york who hates rudy giuliani just joined the team
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to push back on this because he said this is one of the biggest violation of rights and if we go down
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here and allow this to stand uh we're in in in big big legal trouble in the future each of us are so
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we're going to talk about that coming up in about half an hour uh from now right now we're talking to
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dr robert malone and um i i want to play this audio of the bioethicist um for you doctor so you can hear
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what he's talking about inserting and and making us repel um meat listen to this so i'll give two
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examples so one is that uh people eat too much meat right and if they were to cut down on their
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consumption on meat then they would uh it would actually really help the planet uh but people are
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not willing to give up meat yeah you know some people will be willing to but other people they may
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be willing to but they sort of they have a weakness of will they say wow this this steak is just too
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juicy i can't do it i'm one of those by the way so you know but so here's a thought right so it turns
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out that we know a lot about so there we have these intolerance to uh so i for example i have milk
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intolerance um uh and there's some people are intolerant to crayfish so possibly we can use human
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engineering to make it the case that we're intolerant to certain kinds of meat to certain kinds of
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bovine uh bovine proteins and there's actually analogs of this in life there's this thing called
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the long star tick where if it bites you you will become allergic to meat i can sort of describe the
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mechanism so that's something that we can do through human engineering we can kind of uh possibly
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address really big world problems through human engineering isn't that shouldn't that be terrifying
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that's a mic drop moment yeah that that's clearly crossing the line engineering humans is the key
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you didn't mention that part before so so he's talking about engineering you and me um not engineering
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the cow uh that's that's where i was going to say um well i think the core of what you're talking about
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is uh does the rights of the society trump the rights of the individual right do the ends justify
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the means and we already settled that we had the nuremberg trials right we said no and here in the
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states and i think all of your listeners and are aligned with me on this we're a free society of free
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people that have free will to make their own decisions and uh this this i i i i hope that the
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speaker was saying this in jest just to illustrate a point because the idea of engineering humans uh
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number one it's it's naive as somebody who's been in the gene therapy space for a long time
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we can talk about these fancy ideas but implementing them turns out to be wicked hard for the very reason
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we started talking about that you know there are all kinds of barriers to getting stuff into our dna
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it's hard to do what concerns me is it it feels like uh some scientists are now like yeah yeah eugenics
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didn't work but the idea was good and we're just going down the same road with new technology
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uh from you know 1900 to 1940 yeah no and this is i suspect this is always going to be the case i can
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tell you that in in this in among my peers there are always those who feel like if we can do it we
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should do it and and it's often real hard to check those people i mean this gets this is the same
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kind of issue as the gain of function mutation research that's the at the core of the
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controversy about the origin of this virus there are people in my space you know in my
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contact list that are kind of wired to say um i'm really smart and if i can do this i should be allowed
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to do it and those people are really hard to control um but they're out there and they will
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always be out there and somehow the rest of us got to put a clamp on them and make it clear that
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that's not okay but it's not easy to do i guarantee it's not easy to do and it feels like
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medicine in some way is going off the rails i know uh the ama just said that they're going to
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start now including critical race theory in medicine and i thought that critical race theory
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like it don't like it that's political we cannot put political into medicine so yeah the assumption
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that the american medical association represents most physicians in the united states is false
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uh not not only by numbers but also by logic so please don't paint us all with that brush
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just because a bunch of folks sitting in a ivory tower in chicago happen to say that
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um a lot of us find the ama has led us down the garden path to where our lives are controlled by
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accountants and and people with mbas right uh they they kind of sold us out so uh you know i don't
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know that medicine you're right medicine today is not what i signed up for when i went into medical
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school uh and a lot of my colleagues are really disillusioned with it but um and that's a that's a
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bigger we're we're facing these are the kind of things that keep me up at night um we're facing
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times that are happening that are coming at us so fast and it doesn't seem like for instance i have
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a daughter who um has uh cerebral palsy and she had horrible horrible seizures she was having them all
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the time and she just had this miraculous brain surgery she hasn't had a seizure since january that's
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she's 31 or 32 years old that's that is a miracle and i know that elon musk is developing what's called
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neural link and his idea is that you'll be able to you know if you have strokes which she had
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it will be able to um jump uh over any of the scarring or anything else and i i think this is fantastic
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but i also see what it could become and i don't know where the line is does anybody is anybody talking
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about these things right to be you're right to be wary because the history is that when when every
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one of these breakthroughs always comes with a good side and a bad side and there's always military
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applications there's always these kinds of control applications and uh and there's always folks that
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are willing to exploit it particularly if they can make a buck and um i it's it this is the battle that
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we are going to have to wage forever but is there anybody in your business leading that battle
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that's a good question um is there i'm not there must be uh institutes and think tanks that are
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i can't imagine there isn't but the field of bioethics seems to be often fairly focused on
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on just the pragmatic parts of how do we do a clinical trial and and you know develop drugs and stuff like
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that and not on these big picture issues these are more psychology and social sociology kind of
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in in um and big think tank rand rand institute kind of questions you're asking and i i i hope that
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there are folks out there but they're not in my world my world people tend to be pretty focused on
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the mission and uh you know how do we protect the warfighter how do we uh respond to bio threats i mean
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the thing that has my world spooked is these new recombinant technologies like uh crisper cas9 that
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that you know in the and garage biology you can engineer some wicked nasty stuff these days in your
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garage and that's that's in a way that you didn't used to be able to and that's what's got
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could you explain pretty most people don't don't even know what crisper is can can you explain that
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quickly not very well i don't know it i don't practice it it's a new technology that allows
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very precise recombination which is to say insertion of new genetic material in place of existing
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genetic material and it makes it kind of child's play it used to be really hard and now by use of
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these sequences that are found in some uh prokaryotic uh bug uh microbial systems you're
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able to circumvent a lot of the old kind of more kludgy stuff and just make genetic swaps wherever you
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want and that's complemented by the fact that you can i mean i could i could write out a new gene that
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i want right now on my computer and send it off to a shop in the u.s or china and they would send me
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back a package with that gene synthesized it's that trivial and this is a technology that now
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allows you to take that and drop it into you know your favorite genome it's not it's not yet um
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uh so efficient that the the problem with all of this for humans for big you know animals to get it
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into all of your cells we're not there yet we're a long long way from that but to do it in one cell
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like like or modify a virus or modify a bacteria um that's now trivial and that's that's kind of
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the the thing about the argument that just to bring it home that sars cov2 some people say well
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there's no footprint of classic genetic engineering well with with crispr cas9 there are no footprints
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it just goes in clean so wow that that argument you know we can't it it changes everything because
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you can't track stuff in the same way um and it becomes uh pretty easy to do stuff so that's that's
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a little spooky right yeah we are we're entering a whole new world just a whole new world dr robert
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malone thank you for spending the time uh over the last three days being on in the program i find you
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thank you i find you really refreshing that you haven't brought politics into any of it just
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reason and common sense thank you so much god bless my pleasure
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this is the best of the glenbeck program and don't forget rate us on itunes
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this is the glenbeck program i heard uh alan dershowitz talk about rudy giuliani monday on
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the megan kelly podcast and um i just thought he made such good points and i wanted you to to hear
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them but i also had a couple of questions for uh mr dershowitz on uh on this particular case and what
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it means if it's not repaired welcome alan dershowitz host of uh the dershow how are you sir well i'm
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doing good but i'm very concerned you know i've been a lawyer for 60 years i taught legal ethics for
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about 35 years at harvard i have never seen a case like the rudy giuliani case first of all they deny
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him an evidentiary hearing they say you have to prove not only that what he said was false but
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knowingly false that he knew it was false he denies that and yet they didn't take evidence they just
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suspended him saying that the suspension is likely to become permanent without any kind of an opportunity
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him to respond moreover i have never seen a case where lawyers have been disciplined not necessarily
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for what they say in court some of the allegations are what he said in court but others of the
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allegations are what he said on television on fox on newsmax on podcasts why is that not protected
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by the first amendment i think everybody will concede the court will concede that everything rudy
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giuliani said would be protected by the first amendment if you weren't a lawyer what's the
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difference that he's a lawyer i mean i watch lawyers on tv all the time just um for instance
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in the chauvin case i've heard the lawyers talk about how this is all about race and yet when they
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got into the court there wasn't one word about race well was he right should he be suspended
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well i can tell you many many thousands of lawyers would be suspended if this decision by the appellate
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division in new york were applied across the board universally there's a famous case where a
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prosecutor held up a pair of underpants saying it belonged to the defendant and that the red on it
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was his blood when the prosecutor knew it was paint the guy got sentenced to death ultimately it was
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reversed but the lawyer wasn't disciplined or disbarred i've experienced myself probably two dozen
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cases where lawyers have made misstatements to the court i filed a grievance i filed a grievance
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against david boy he's a prominent lawyer the senior partner in boy's killer who has had many
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ethical complaints against him in the theranos case in the winston case you name it in other cases
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he says to me on tape on tape i have it on tape he says to me the woman who accused you is wrong
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simply wrong you couldn't have been in the places she said you were in when she claimed to have sex
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with you he says that on tape and then just a short time later he files a complaint saying she's telling
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the truth and everything she says is truthful he knows that that's false and i filed a complaint with
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the same disciplinary board that disciplined giuliani and they wouldn't even consider the complaint
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they wouldn't even investigate that's how selective this prosecution is and it's unfair they're going
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after giuliani not because of what he said but because of who he defended and because they don't agree
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with his politics so here's the here's the scary thing alan we know that it would not be universally
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applied um because it never it it never works out that way strangely because it's about politics
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however this should shock every attorney um to to know that if you fall on the wrong side of an issue
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you can be suspended but also this goes to something else we have i have one of the the had one of the
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best first amendment attorneys in the country from uh from washington dc battling with us i've i've had
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them for 20 years and battling with them etc etc we're in the middle of something and we get dropped and the
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reason why we're dropped is because it will cause problems with some of the other cases and the
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partners that we have you excuse me yeah you're now make they were making political calculations
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on who they were going to represent alan if this kind of stuff continues you if you're unpopular you're
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not going to get an attorney well i remember this from the 1950s i was a year too young to remember to
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know this but i was in college when mccarthyism was rearing its ugly head and no lawyer would dare
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to represent somebody who was accused of being a communist or a fellow traveler or too far left
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yesterday it was the left that was complaining against the right today it's the right that's being
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victimized by the left and you know what's going on in this world today the hard left has become the
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enemy of free speech due process and equal protection of the laws and they call themselves
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progressives they don't want equality they want identity politics they don't want due process if a
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woman says it's true it must be true why have a hearing they don't want free speech if we don't
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agree with you you shouldn't be able to say it free speech for me but not for the what has happened
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to the hard left and the constitution they see the constitution as the enemy of their utopia
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they don't realize that without these constitutional rights every utopia turns into a dystopia if you
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don't believe that look at castro's cuba look at mao's china look at stalin's russia and you'll see
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historically it's always been the case when you end these rights you end freedom and liberty and we
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have to fight against it i'm a liberal democrat i voted for joe biden i voted for hillary clinton i voted
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for barack obama i voted for bill clinton i voted for every democrat and i'm just as concerned as if
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i were today a republican and they can come after me tomorrow because i defended president trump in
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front of the united states senate and i'm suing cnn because they totally distorted what i said and i won
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the first round of my case against cnn and i think i hope i will win the subsequent rounds as well
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we cannot allow this attack on the constitution to continue
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but you know i wish there were more liberals like you i mean that this is what a liberal used to be
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and i don't know where those people are hiding i i don't know if they don't exist they don't see the
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threat or they're afraid to say anything or that donald trump was so bad that you know ends justify
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the means i i don't know where they are that's what i think many of them say that's what they tell
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me you know people don't talk to me anymore on martha's vineyard they don't talk to me in other
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places mostly martha's vineyard these are people whose kids i wrote recommendations for for college
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whose kids i got up at three in the morning and helped get out of jail when they were picked up with
00:35:31.720
a with a uh drugs or uh with alcohol these are people i have done things for over the years today
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they won't talk to me because i defended the president of the united states and trump is
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different nothing applies to trump the constitution is suspended when it comes to trump that's the road
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to tyranny wow um let me ask you this the the ex-fbi lawyer uh that lied to the fisa court i mean he
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changed he changed documents he got a one-year bar suspension uh rudy giuliani is facing a life
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suspension this guy gets a one-year suspension from the bar doesn't that seem a little light
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for somebody who went into court knowingly changed documents to have it say the exact opposite in a
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fisa court yeah especially a fisa court because there's no other side of the fisa court the fisa
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court isn't an adversarial system one side is presented and so that side is expected to present
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everything fairly in a pristine manner because they have a special special responsibility look i think
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what that guy is accused of doing is far worse than anything that giuliani is accused of doing oh
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oh my gosh yeah so hard on giuliani i would like to have somebody go and go through all the cases
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where the appellate division in new york or the the disciplinary board in new york has refused to
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take action against lawyers for the most part they take action against lawyers who steal money from
00:37:11.540
clients they very rarely take action against lawyers who lie in court i have had so many cases in the
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southern district of new york where prosecutors have said things that are clearly untrue and i've
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written books about it and i've you know um argued appeals based on it but i've never seen any lawyer
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disbarred because of it i don't want to see lawyers disbarred i don't i'm against the weaponization
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of the justice system for political partisan purposes but i don't want to see giuliani treated to
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a double standard and denied due process and denied free speech rights well but but wait a minute you
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you should get in trouble if you're lying in court yeah shouldn't you yeah yeah yeah yeah you right
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okay and and with the court but you have no obligation to be candid on fox television or in
00:38:05.460
glenn beck's radio show i'm always going to be candid because that's who i am i have never deliberately
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said anything that's untrue on any radio or or television show to my knowledge and i'm going
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to continue to maintain that standard for myself but i don't want to see the government have the
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power to determine whether what i've said to you is true or false once you give the government that
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power and bar association disciplinary groups are the government you give them the power to chill
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advocacy to chill free speech and you give them the power to selectively enforce the law and that's
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so dangerous you know one of the dictators of south america famously said for my friends everything for
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my enemies the law the law is so powerful you can use it so effectively against your enemies and what
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we're seeing right now is a banana republic style attempt to try to go after former president trump
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and his family and his company and his associates and that's what happens again in banana republics
00:39:11.380
when you undo a government you go after the former government you put them in jail you kill them
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you do all those things that's what determines whether it's a tyranny or democracy in america we
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generally applaud our former office holders and we don't go after them but here you have in new york
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the attorney general of the state of new york runs for office without seeing a bit of evidence
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runs for office on the campaign pledge that she will get trump it's not what an attorney general
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should do and that's not a fair way of approaching criminal justice
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from uh the der show alan dershowitz you can grab his podcast wherever you get your podcast
00:39:53.900
uh as always alan thank you very much for your honesty i know we disagree i'm sure on a lot of
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things but uh on telling the truth and yeah but standing up for what is right yeah yeah um all right