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Simon Campbell is a member of the community that decided to go in front of the Pennsbury School Board and talk to them about some concerns he had about what they were teaching. You'll want to hear his video that went viral, but then also hear him much more calm on the phone. Also, Bill O'Reilly is on the program today. He's got a lot to talk about, including some stuff with Tucker Carlson that we'll get into, and Glenn has a show today on BlazeTV.
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Welcome to the podcast. Today, we talk to Simon Campbell. He's a member of the community that
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decided to go in front of the school board and talk to them about some of the concerns he had
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about what they were teaching. You're going to want to hear his video that went viral,
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but then also talking to him. He's much more calm on the phone, but really interesting guy.
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Also have another relatively interesting guy, Bill O'Reilly, on the program today. He's got a
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lot to talk about, including some stuff with Tucker Carlson that we'll get into. And Glenn has a show
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today on BlazeTV, blazetv.com slash Glenn. Promo code is Glenn. You'll save 10 bucks on your
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subscription. He's got a special for subscribers only. And, you know, Glenn, when he left Top 40
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Radio, one of the reasons he did that, he always says, it's like, I got sick of talking about
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Britney Spears all the time. Now he's back to talking about Britney Spears. Full circle moment
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for Glenn's career today on Glenn TV, her whole situation. And there is really some interesting
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stuff going on about, you know, freedom for people who want it. And it's an interesting story. He's
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going to get into that today. Brand new Studios America as well. Don't forget to subscribe to the
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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One of the highlights, at least of my week, was listening to a guy. He's a former member of the
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Pennsbury, Pennsylvania school board. He spoke up about the draconian moves that the school board
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up in Pennsbury was taking to silence free speech. I want you to listen to a part of this,
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Now, you snowflakes apparently have a bigger problem with public comment.
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It seems to me that you think you can supersede the United States Constitution.
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Well, I've got news for you, school board president Benito Mussolini. Your power does not supersede
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that of the U.S. Constitution and the First Amendment rights of the citizens of this great nation.
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Let's be very, very clear who has the power. It is not government policy. Do not warn me or do not
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interrupt my time. If you interrupt my time, do not interrupt my time. This is my comment,
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not your comment. I'm quoting to you now from the United States Supreme Court 1964 case,
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New York Times versus Sullivan. This is constitutional case law in this country,
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and I'm quoting you from the U.S. Supreme Court. The judges wrote that this nation is founded on the,
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quote, profound national commitment to the principle that debate on public issues shall be
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uninhibited, robust, and wide open, and that it may well include vehement, caustic, and sometimes
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unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials. That's constitutional case law in this
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nation. I don't have to be nice to you. Nobody behind me has to be nice to you. If you
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don't like living in the United States of America, then you can all move to Russia, Cuba, or China.
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I will caution you, solicitor. There is a video camera to my left. If you edit this tape,
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then you're going to have a big legal problem on your hands, because my right to critique your
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fascism, which is what this is, is constitutionally protected. There are emails, public record emails,
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in which the director of equity is lobbying and advocating for public comment to be censored
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Okay, stop. This, I understand, and I'm going to bring Simon Campbell in. Hello, Simon. How are you?
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Good morning, Glenn. Thanks for having me on. I want you to know that I'm very calm today. I've had
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my cup of tea, so I should be good. You were fantastic, but tell me if this is true. I have
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heard that that was spur of the moment. You didn't have any planned remarks. This happened because you
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talked to a mom in the hallway before the meeting started. Is that true?
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That's absolutely correct. You can tell I was not reading off of the script. I'm known locally as a
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little bit of an activist, a loud mouth, but I was talking to this everyday mom in the entranceway
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of the school board meeting. She had wanted to speak at the earlier meeting in May, but she had
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witnessed the thuggery that had taken place at that meeting. And by the way, we're trying to get the
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tape of that meeting, because apparently it's even worse than what happened with me, where the school
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solicitor, who's supposed to be the taxpayer-funded counsel, is the one doing the dirty work of these
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radical fascists. When I say dirty work, shouting people down, saying you can't speak, and then
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editing and cutting the tape of the school district's meeting. So she told me in the entranceway,
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she was too intimidated to speak at the meeting the month before. And she's an ordinary everyday mom,
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too intimidated in this country to express your views to the government. And I said to myself,
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right, they've got it coming. And that's kind of what happened.
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Holy cow. And just, this doesn't sound like a Brooklyn accent. And knowing that, I think,
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that your favorite politician was Margaret Thatcher, you're from the UK. How long have you been here?
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And do you realize you probably know more about freedom than the average American?
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Well, I've been here since 2004, and I was naturalized in January 2009. And I always make
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the point, that day when I was naturalized, there was about 60 of us in Philadelphia,
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from over 30 countries, many of whom had tears in their eyes, their family members and friends were
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there. And you really get a sense in that room of what it means to be an American. And so I always
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think about that moment when I'm mouthing off like I did at the school board meeting, that here you have
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people who have escaped from, you know, knows what kind of countries, finally free. So, you know,
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for me, I was born and raised in the UK. My favorite politician of all time is Margaret Thatcher,
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as my parents would say, you can't say her name without raising the glass, you know, raise the
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glass. But, yeah, I mean, I was on that school board. And, you know, I got hammered because I wasn't
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the biggest fan of the teachers union. And I just took it in stride, because that's what you do in
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America. You're a public official. You know, they called me the bastard child of Margaret Thatcher.
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I thought it was the greatest compliment ever. So, you know, snowflakes, they don't like it.
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So, tell me your stance on what is happening there, beyond the, why are they trying to hide
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things from the public? Why are they trying to silence? What is going on in your community?
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Well, I, I, there's a local activist group of parents, I guess, that are upset around what's
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become known as critical race theory, all these books in this curriculum. And the school district
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has promoted someone to this position they call director of equity, diversity and education.
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I think that's a ridiculous job title. I don't know what these job titles mean to me, you
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know. But anyway, they were all upset about the proposed book. Well, it just sounds like
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a load of bollocks to me. And by the way, that's not a rude word, because it comes from my favorite
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album. But they were all upset about this. And I, it was, I, I came along and, and they
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were telling me about how they were being shouted down in the May meeting, the one that we haven't
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got the tape for. Apparently, the school solicitor was saying things like, you're not allowed
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to say critical race theory. Now we're trying to get the videotape of this. So this thuggery
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is going on. And I show up at this sort of parent's house ahead of the school board meeting.
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And I said, okay, well, what you, what you all need to do when we're kind of going over
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the tactics, speak at public comment, they're not allowed to shut you up. They can't silence
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you. This is America, you know, sort of like trying to help out with how to deal with these
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people. So I don't know why they are cutting the tape. So if you're the Pennsbury
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school district's website for the May meeting and the March meeting, they've literally cut
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out speakers who spoke at public comment on this issue, cut them off the tape. I'm just
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like, I have got images in my head of 1930s Germany, burning books, banning speech. And
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for me personally, before I even get into the critical race theory debate, I'm in, we've
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got fascists in my local community head thinking, you know, and so I just got all riled up on the
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first amendment side of it, but clearly they don't want to sign on this. Otherwise they
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wouldn't be. Some people would hear you call somebody fascist and they'll say, okay, that's
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overdramatic. Why are you using that word? Well, because they are, if you, we have emails,
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I put them on my YouTube channel, the director of equity, this is the lady that crafted a press
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release behind the scenes. We got all the information behind the right to no law inside
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the government where a citizen had spoken in March, very soft spoken citizen, not a loud mouth
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Brit like me, just against the policy agenda. Right. And this director of equity, the tolerance
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lady goes to the school board president and the superintendent and says, that guy's a racist.
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The way that he spoke at public comment in March was like a racist dog whistling. Here's how we need
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to shut him down and others like him. And I think it would be good if the school board president put
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out a public statement. So the public statement from the school board president going out to the whole
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community, basically accusing this guy of being a racist when he isn't, I've met him. He's a lovely,
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nice bloke. And I'm sitting as watching this going on. How can you have a society, a freedom,
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a place called America where the government is itself issuing press statements that literally say,
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if you come down and speak against us, we're going to shame you. We're going to name you. We're going
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to call you a racist. We're going to put out public press statements and we're going to cut you from the
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videotape. Now, if that's not fascism, Glenn, you tell me what is fascism.
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Simon, why did you come to America? And what are you, what's going through your mind as you're
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watching your new country now go down this path?
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Well, I came to America because my wife's from Brooklyn and she married, we met in England. And so
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she brought back a permanent souvenir. So, um, when I came, well, I, um, I, I just go back to the
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naturalization ceremony. That's where you get a sense of what America is about. That's where you
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get, because they give you this book, um, uh, the ceremony, you know, and it said something. I
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always remember this one quote, this is former presidents of America. And they give you these
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quotes, these inspirational quotes. And the one from Reagan stood out to me the most. He
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said something like, you can, uh, move to France, but you'll never become a Frenchman. You can move
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to Italy, but you'll never become an Italian. He said that anyone from any corner of the world
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can move to America and become an American. And I think that that quote sums it up for me because
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America is about a set of ideals. It's not about who you are, what you look like, what your immigrant
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background is, what your skin color is. It's about an idea. And the idea is freedom.
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And so when I see the most repugnant attack on freedom in my local community, and I can tell
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you, this has riled everybody up in my community. Well, I guess it's gone viral now. I mean, I don't
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even, quite frankly, my head's spinning with this whole thing. I didn't, I've got like, you know,
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a hundred people on my YouTube channel. I put this up there and my daughter's like, dad,
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you're at 1.2 million on Tik TOK. Wow. Wow. Wow. Well, I think people are thirsty for it. Um,
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real quick, uh, can you speak directly to the parent or to the American that is still perhaps
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on the sideline wants to stand up, but they just don't want to, they don't want to face this.
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They don't want to be a part of it. They don't want, they're afraid their kid will be singled
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out or, or whatever. Talk to that person for a second. Yeah. The thing I would say is take 10,
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20, 30 of your friends with you and do not back down and videotape them. Most public school boards
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are required to be open to the public. And in Pennsylvania, I'm sure in other States you can
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video record these people. And when you actually show them what they're doing, silencing microphones,
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telling people you're racist, when, when ordinary Americans see the government behaving that way,
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that's when it's no longer a conservative liberal issue. That's when it's, are you American or not?
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And I think that ordinary citizens take your cell phones down, go, go, go, go hunting packs. If you
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will, you know, take 10, 20, 30 people. We probably had a hundred parents at that school board meeting.
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Most of whom had never been to one before. And I think there's just power in numbers because
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no matter what one's position is on a policy, when the government is silencing people,
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intimidating them, um, that's when, that's when the radical left lose mainstream America.
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Simon, thank you so much. Uh, I hope we get an opportunity to speak again. Thank you for what
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you're doing in your community and, and I'm proud that you're an American. Welcome.
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Dr. Robert Malone. He is the inventor of the MRNA vaccine technology.
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He has been speaking out about, uh, the, the effects, possible effects of this COVID vaccine.
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We welcome him to the program. Doctor, how are you?
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Good. Thank you, Mr. Beck, for the opportunity to speak to your, uh, wide audience and yourself
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about these various issues of censorship and, uh, free speech and, uh, bioethics and, uh, government
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I have to tell you, uh, one of the things that I am, um, really concerned about in our,
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in our world of advancing technology is I don't think people have enough conversations on the ethics
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of what we're doing, the ethics of, of what we're experimenting with and what, what the ramifications
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will be of some of this new technology. And it's disturbing because we're entering places where no man
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has ever gone before. Um, and we're just trying things out and it sounds awfully dangerous.
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Um, so, uh, I, I, uh, as, as you've noted, I'm always skating on the thin ice of censorship
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and, and the professional in this area, I work with the government quite a bit. It's how I make my
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living. And, and Glenn, please understand. I'm not somebody who seeks media attention. This has been
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thrust on me because my friend, Brett Weinstein had me on his dark horse podcast and it went viral.
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Um, it hit 800,000 people before YouTube pulled it down a week later. And, uh, ever since then,
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I have hardly had a life. My social media accounts have exploded. I'm constantly getting calls from
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patients and doctors. And somehow I'm become the, uh, somebody who can give voice to a lot of the
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concerns that, uh, the medical community has worldwide, but is not able to talk about. And,
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um, the bioethics has been one of the other key, key kind of wedges. I think it was, uh, um,
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on dark horse when the point was raised, you know, this metaphor of the red pill. And, um, for a lot of
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folks, if they think through the bioethics part, then suddenly it opens their mind and they say,
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oh, this isn't right. And now in a lot of times they know it intuitively that something doesn't
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feel right about how this is being handled. But when, when they kind of get the tools,
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you walk them through the logic, then they get it. So walk us through the logic.
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Yeah. So it's really simple. I'll try to say it quick. Um, we can get into the weeds of it, but
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these are the main high points. First off, these, all of the vaccines in the United States are under
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emergency use authorization. So I can tell you as a professional in regulatory affairs and clinical
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development, what that means is they're all experimental. So the statements that this is
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the largest experiment ever performed on human beings in terms of a medical intervention, that's
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all true. That's not, that's not hyperbole. It's just the fact. So they're all experimental.
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They're not yet licensed. Um, therefore they fall under a federal law called the common rule. It's
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in the CFR. You can look it up and that goes all the way back to the Nuremberg code, et cetera,
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through to the present. And it has three main precepts. Number one, there has to be full transparency,
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full disclosure of risk. Just like when you open a bottle of aspirin and you see that little insert
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piece of paper, or you listen to the ad on the TV and, you know, 10 seconds of the ad is about the
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drug and the remaining 50 seconds is about all the caveats of the things that can happen. And you'll
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recall that it gets down into the weeds. It talks about things that hardly would ever happen. That's
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the level of disclosure about risk that you have to be given by federal law. Um, if you're going to
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participate in any kind of a clinical experiment, which is what this is, that's point. Number one,
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full disclosure of risk. Point number two, we can't hide those risks behind fancy medical words. So I
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can throw all kinds of medical jargon at you and make your head spin about dysmenorrhea, for instance,
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or a number of other terms that relate to thrombocytopenia. How many of you know what those
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things mean? Okay. Well, what it means is the first one that your menses are irregular. And the second
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one means that your blood platelets are low and you're in danger of clotting and having strokes
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and stuff like that. Okay. So the second part of the rule is that these risks have to be conveyed
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in common language so that a person of about eighth grade education can understand it. There has to be
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comprehension. Third part of the rule, this gets straight at the kind of liberties that we all
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fortunately still share here in the West. You have to freely consent to taking the agent. You cannot
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be coerced. What is coercion? Coercion is, oh, we're going to give out ice cream and so that all the kids
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can come and we can give them jabs without getting the parent's consent. That's one form. Another form
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is in Canada, for example, they have a policy that communities have to stay on lockdown until at least
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70% of them have taken them jab. Okay. That's called coercion. It's not allowed. You have to
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consent to participate in medical experimentation of your own free will. Last little caveat.
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Ever heard of the age of consent? And here in the States, it's usually about 18. What that means is
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people that are under the age of consent cannot give informed consent. They must have informed consent
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provided by a parent or guardian. Those are the rules. It's in the federal law. So that's my quick
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and dirty on bioethics. We can go on and on about it. There's a lovely video from Tony Fauci that
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somebody pointed out to me on a podcast where he goes all over this in detail. So we can't say that
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the federal government and the leadership is not aware of the fundamentals of bioethics. Over.
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So they would say, though, that, you know, we have an emergency and we have got to do something.
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And that always leads to trouble when we have to do something. And I'm not anti-vaccine.
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But, you know, I don't feel like we're getting all of the information. And they haven't even said,
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what about people who have already had COVID? I mean, I have natural immunity. I know that
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instinctively, but they keep changing and not wanting to talk about those people. Instead,
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you're just supposed to get the vaccine. And so something does feel wrong. If you want to take
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the vaccine, you should be able to take the vaccine. But if not, if you don't want to take it or you don't
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want your kids taking it, you shouldn't have to. Bingo. It's your body. You get to decide.
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Those are the rules. Well, that's the state doesn't own your body. And I underscore what you just said.
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I, you know, I also live in Twitterverse, et cetera, in addition to trying to be a professional.
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And many people there, there are those who assert that I'm an anti-vaxxer. Come on, guys.
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I invented this technology 30 years ago. I've spent my entire career advancing vaccines. I was
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seminal in the development of what we now call the Merck Ebola vaccine. Okay. I have a spotless track
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record in terms of advancing vaccine technology. However, I'm pro rights. I'm pro bioethics. I'm pro
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transparency. I'm pro honesty. And I'm pro science-based medicine. And what we've got here,
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Glenn, and have had from the outbreak, and I've been through too many of these outbreaks. I know
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how it is at the start. There's no information and everybody has to use expert opinion. We're way
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past that. Right. And what we've had is government officials, sorry, here in DC, we call them gubbies,
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um, substituting their opinion for what they think is right or best for actual fact-based decision
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making. And that gets him in trouble again and again. And if you don't believe me, all you got
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to do is look at the void emails that the Washington Post pulled out of Tony's email account.
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I'm talking about Dr. Fauci. All right. So you're not anti-vaccine clearly. Um, and are you saying that
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no one should have this vaccine or that we should just be aware of some of the side effects?
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Um, I'm not saying these vaccines are saving lives and thanks for letting me just hit that head on.
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Okay. Um, right. What I have problems with in, in Glenn, it, it, I mentioned this on Tucker's show,
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and I'd like to amplify it just a little bit on your show, if you don't mind. Um, and I checked in with,
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with some FDA colleagues last night, uh, just to make sure that I was still representing what
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they understand to be truth. And these are very senior people. What we have is a situation in
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which the databases, this is going to count, sound kind of, sound kind of wonky. The databases that
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are supposed to capture the adverse events, that's the bad stuff that happens in, in time relating to
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the vaccine. It may or not, may or may or may not be related. Okay. The databases that are supposed
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to capture this are a train wreck. They're very poor quality here in the States. And so when the
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CDC says that we have this, that, or the other incidents of this, you know, for instance, the
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recent cardiac problems in adolescence, they're basing that on what by their own admission is really
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faulty data. We talk about VAERS, there's also the V-safe system. So that is the core problem here
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is that we don't have good information to make calculations about risk benefit for different
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populations. And that folks like you, me and your listeners don't have full transparency about what
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those potential adverse events are. That's not legal. They are obligated to share it with us.
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My argument is not that you should or shouldn't take the vaccine. My argument is that you have the
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right to know and make your own informed decision. That's the federal law. It's real simple and
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straightforward. Now I do have concerns about some of the adverse events that are happening. I do have
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concerns. And I think that, that particularly the Moderna vaccine, the dose is too high. I think that
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we need to quickly roll out re-engineered vaccines that are, that no longer have some of these issues
00:25:49.660
that are associated with spike protein in both the adenovirus and the mRNA. They're both based on gene
00:25:56.020
therapy. Okay. I think that we really need to look at re-engineering some of those. And I think for
00:26:01.620
those of you in the audience who are not comfortable taking a genetic-based vaccine, like the ones that are
00:26:07.540
currently available, I gently suggest, and I have no conflict of interest, no stock in Novavax, but Novavax is a
00:26:14.620
much more traditional vaccine product. And if you don't want to go down the RNA or advector road,
00:26:22.460
I think there's a good chance that the Novavax product is going to get clearance under EUA
00:26:27.340
mid-summer. So it's, it's not, you know, there's not without hope. You're not left with vaccine or
00:26:34.300
no vaccine or vaccine or ivermectin as some people like Brett advocate. There's other options coming.
00:26:41.020
So I just want to give that message out. So you were just talking about a spike in protein.
00:26:49.020
Respond to this. Reuters just run, just ran fact-check COVID-19 vaccines are not, what is it?
00:26:56.720
Cytotoxic? Cytotoxic? Cytotoxic. Yeah. So I really, they, they followed actually put a
00:27:01.920
PolitiFact was the first one. And then Reuters comes out. By the way, Reuters is part of the
00:27:06.600
Trusted News Initiative when we get to talking about censorship. Okay. So we'll, we'll get there
00:27:12.000
soon enough. Reuters ran this and they did it based on statements that are really carefully
00:27:18.200
worded and a little obtuse from federal officials. They didn't actually go to the scientific literature
00:27:23.780
all because that apparently what's happened. I'm learning more and more is with the mainstream media,
00:27:29.920
they've all gotten lazy and they seem to think that it's okay to just parrot whatever their colleagues
00:27:35.740
in the media have said before, as opposed to actually going to the peer-reviewed scientific
00:27:40.700
literature, which clearly unambiguously multiple peer-reviewed publications, press release from the
00:27:47.980
Salk Institute, my alma mater, all say that the native spike protein, catch my words, they're carefully worded.
00:27:56.360
The native spike protein is cytotoxic. It does open the blood brain barrier. It does have multiple
00:28:03.740
problems and it's probably associated with the blood coagulation based on the Singapore paper that just
00:28:09.620
came out reporting the adverse event of blood clots in the brain in far too many people than it should
00:28:15.240
be happening in after mRNA vaccination. Okay. So Reuters, thank you very much. You made it really easy
00:28:22.060
for me to fact check the fact checkers because all I have to do is pop open PubMed, do a search and cite
00:28:27.900
the peer-reviewed literature. You're wrong. Now what was done, this is the, here's the truth. Okay.
00:28:33.860
Then I get the comments. Oh, but they engineered the spike protein for these vaccines so that it's not
00:28:40.340
toxic. The problem with that is that that would require time travel because they didn't know at the
00:28:46.600
time that they were doing the engineering that these cytotoxicity and other effects happened.
00:28:51.720
Okay. So they, yes, they did do some engineering. I'm not sure that that engineering didn't make it
00:28:57.200
more toxic. I don't know if it made it less toxic. Here's the point. The way it works in drug
00:29:02.460
development is kind of like the French judicial system. You're guilty until proven innocent in
00:29:07.900
drug development. It's assumed that it's toxic until it's proven not to be toxic. So if you're going to
00:29:13.840
say that the stuff that's expressed in these gene therapy based vaccines is not toxic, like the native
00:29:20.680
spike protein is, it's your obligation to prove it. Now I've invited people to post that are saying
00:29:27.540
these things to post any peer-reviewed literature, any documentation that shows that FDA has forced
00:29:34.020
the pharma or pharma has published or the NIH that engineered the NIH vaccine research center that
00:29:40.240
engineered the Moderna vaccine to post how they prove that it's not toxic. The data aren't there.
00:29:47.440
I've never seen it. I would be, I'd be overjoyed to see it. Then I could put that concern to rest,
00:29:53.060
but it's, it's one of these, it walks like a duck. It looks like a duck. It quacks like a duck. It's
00:29:58.460
probably a duck. And the fact that we have this overlap between the symptoms of COVID, the symptoms
00:30:05.360
of long COVID, the symptoms that are associated with the post-vaccination syndrome with the adenovectors,
00:30:12.060
and some of the symptoms more rare, perhaps less severe, that also are cropping up with the mRNAs.
00:30:18.620
What's the common variable? It is the spike open reading frame protein. Does that make sense? Simple stuff.
00:30:25.460
We are, uh, we're talking to the guy who, um, invented the, uh, RNA, uh, vaccination or the,
00:30:36.820
the, uh, um, RNA vaccination. Um, and he has been silenced. Doctor, we have only scheduled a half hour
00:30:45.980
here. I could, I, may I ask you to come back because there's so much more to this story and I will clear
00:30:52.060
my schedule. So, okay. We'd love to do that. I got to tell you, I get, I get flack about going
00:30:57.980
on conserved media. Conservative media are the ones that are interested in these topics of,
00:31:02.700
of free speech, freedom of information, personal rights. If CNN wants to invite me on, I'll be glad
00:31:09.060
to be on. I have to tell you, uh, doctor there, this is not a conservative, this is not a political
00:31:15.420
issue. This is a science issue and we should all be looking for the truth, especially when
00:31:21.980
we are, we're putting things into people's bodies and not getting the full truth.
00:31:31.420
You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:31:42.720
Hey everybody. Kamala Harris is finally going to the border. She's going to get to the bottom of it.
00:31:48.800
I'll bet she finds global warming down there. Um, Mark Morgan is the former acting, uh, uh,
00:31:58.860
customs and border patrol commissioner. Uh, we wanted to get him on the phone and, uh, get his
00:32:04.960
thoughts on what happened to the latest commissioner of the border patrol. Who's just been relieved of his
00:32:12.820
duty. Um, what happened there? Also, what does he expect to be happening, uh, with, uh, uh, Kamala
00:32:21.420
Harris, uh, on her border trip? Mark, welcome to the program. Go ahead. Thanks for having me. I really
00:32:27.920
appreciate it. You bet. So give me your thoughts. First of all, what's happening on the border that
00:32:34.180
Americans aren't really aware of cause the, the, it's not being, uh, covered. Uh, and what happened
00:32:40.740
with the, the latest head of border patrol, uh, when he was let go? Well, we'll go in first. Let me
00:32:49.960
talk about what's happening at the border. I think what the Americans don't know, and like, I'm going
00:32:54.380
to be direct cause I don't know any other way to be because this administration did just flat out
00:32:58.960
blatant lies. It's beyond the political spin and misdirection. It's just flat out lies. And I think
00:33:04.700
what's really important is when we talk about securing our borders, Glenn, you know, this, I've
00:33:09.200
heard you talk about this countless times. It's not just about the illegal immigration threat that
00:33:13.700
we face and that crisis. When you have borders that are unsecure, those borders, our borders are
00:33:19.660
unsecure to the vast complex multitude of threats that we face from outside our borders, whether that's
00:33:26.300
criminal aliens coming through and making their way right to every neighborhood, the drugs pouring
00:33:30.820
through our, our, our, our Southwest border and making their way to, to every neighborhood. And I,
00:33:34.980
and I could go on and on. That is, is one element that that's being hid from, from the American
00:33:40.680
citizens of this country that that's why borders secure and that, that the threats we face, the
00:33:46.320
issues that we face do not stay in our Southwest border state. They make their way over into every town
00:33:52.080
city and state right now. And it's a total, uh, uh, a catastrophic unmitigated crisis on the
00:33:57.580
Southwest border. And now, so let me switch. So Rodney Scott. So I, I was actually the former
00:34:04.060
commissioner of customs and border protection. Rodney Scott is actually the chief of the border
00:34:08.540
patrol, which is a component within CBP. So, but, but, but this is important, Glenn, and I really
00:34:15.000
appreciate you bringing this up is that, is that as the chief of border patrol, he has about 20,000 men
00:34:19.560
and women underneath him. He is responsible, directly responsible ultimate for our border
00:34:24.380
security. And here's the key. It's a career position. It's a career position of a law enforcement
00:34:30.460
executive. It's not a political appointee position. You will find no other federal agency in this
00:34:36.140
government where career officials are treated like political appointees. This man has a 29 year career.
00:34:44.220
I know him. He's a man of integrity and he's a man of courage. And in this position, he has pushed
00:34:48.800
back on this administration. He's been very honest and open about his criticisms with respect to what
00:34:54.840
they're doing and how it's impacted their ability to secure our borders. And this secretary, DHS
00:34:59.960
Secretary Mayorkas, look, if he cannot bully someone, a career official, if he can't turn a career
00:35:07.400
official into no more than a puppet to further his open border policies, he's getting rid of them. And
00:35:12.900
that's what he's done. There's, there's no disciplinary action. There's, he's not doing it for cause.
00:35:17.820
He's simply doing it cause he can't bully Rodney. It's all political. And we should be absolutely
00:35:22.780
outraged that this has happened to a career law enforcement official. How rare is this?
00:35:30.380
So I, I've been doing this for 35 years. I served 20 years in the FBI and I can tell you,
00:35:39.160
you can take this to the bank that, that you, you could go through all the three letter,
00:35:43.460
you know, law enforcement agencies, whether that's HSI under ice, DEA, FBI, ATF, never been done,
00:35:51.420
never been done that. They've gone to this level of a career law enforcement agency and they've been
00:35:57.140
removed, uh, without cause hasn't happened. So why is he, why was he fired, um, uh, and removed?
00:36:06.660
Was it because he was just a thorn in the side or that he knew what was going on? Uh, there was
00:36:16.040
problems within that he was trying to stop the administration from doing that. We don't know
00:36:22.320
of what is, is the whole story just that he was a thorn in the side of the Biden administration.
00:36:28.620
Yeah. Glenn, I think you do a good job of just describing it. Yeah. Look, right now the acting
00:36:34.980
CDP commissioner, uh, the, the, the individual took my position acting right now. And this is
00:36:41.440
hard for me to say, but I have to be honest that that's, he is a puppet. He, he, he is not pushing
00:36:46.800
back on this administration. The political appointees are running the organization just like
00:36:51.220
there are ice. He is signing off on everything. He he's just a, he's just a throughput. He's not
00:36:56.280
pushing back. He's not giving a sound advice and guidance. He's not telling them that the policies
00:37:01.060
are not effective for border security. That's negatively impacting our national security.
00:37:05.120
Rodney did that. Now look, Rodney, cause he served under six administration, both Republican and
00:37:09.740
Democrat. Now at the end of the day, he's going to carry out their policies as he's always done.
00:37:14.140
But, but, but as American citizens, Rodney epitomize exactly what we expect from a career
00:37:20.680
official is that give his expert expertise and advice, honest advice and guidance to the
00:37:27.720
administration to say, if you do this, this is what's going to happen. If they ignore it,
00:37:31.600
they ignore it. And he'll implement as directed, but that's not what they want. That's not enough.
00:37:35.500
They want a throughput. They want a puppet. They want somebody they can bully and control.
00:37:39.800
Rodney's not that guy. That's why they're getting rid of them.
00:37:43.740
Well, it's interesting to me because this is almost a continuation of a conversation I was just
00:37:47.660
having with Dr. Robert Malone. He's the inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology and he's not anti-vaccine.
00:37:56.220
I mean, he invented this technology. He is, he's not saying that it's deadly and no one should take
00:38:03.560
it. He's saying, Hey, there's some concerns, but my biggest concern is they're hiding things from you.
00:38:09.980
And it, it, it, it, not necessarily life and death stuff. They're hiding. They're just hiding things
00:38:16.120
and they are silencing anyone who has a different opinion or just says, Hey, the fact should be known
00:38:23.620
here. That's a dictatorial government. And it sounds like that's exactly what's happening on the border.
00:38:31.540
Glenn, as you were talking, I wish you could see me right now. I wish your listeners could see me.
00:38:35.300
I've got a big smile on my face because I couldn't, I couldn't have come up with a better
00:38:39.740
analogy. That's exactly right. Look, like you said, I've been doing this for a long time.
00:38:43.380
It was the highest levels of leadership positions in federal law enforcement in this country. I,
00:38:47.780
I demanded, I made sure that, that I surrendered myself with people that were not yes people,
00:38:53.320
that people that had their own mind, that people based on their own experiences with where I would
00:38:58.480
come to the table and say, and I demanded, you disagree with me, you tell me, and you can see,
00:39:04.060
you can say, okay, sir, you can still be professional, right? And say, I disagree with
00:39:08.540
you. And here's why I disagree with you. I always say that, then you got to come with a justification
00:39:12.600
and a reason and a solution. That's, that's the type of leader that Rodney Scott is. And,
00:39:17.320
but that's exactly what this secretary of America's doesn't want. He doesn't want any interference.
00:39:22.320
He doesn't want anybody to say anything that is against his radical, open border,
00:39:27.180
ideologic, uh, uh, viewpoint that, that that's absolutely going to do anything to stop their
00:39:33.640
agenda. And I tell you, you can tell I'm fired up because the, and the other thing too, is,
00:39:37.780
is I know Rodney Scott, he's a good man, Glenn, and this, this is wrong. And if they can do this
00:39:43.800
to a career law enforcement, I mean, I mean, they just ended his career for, for no reason,
00:39:48.760
no cost. He, Rodney has gotten the highest senior, uh, executive service, uh, uh, performance
00:39:55.720
evaluations ever since he was, uh, appointed to the SES ranks, uh, the highest marks there's,
00:40:01.400
there's, there's not been a derogatory performance evaluation. They can, they can not point to one
00:40:06.620
issue on his performance of, uh, uh, evaluation that would justify this. It's all about politics.
00:40:12.920
Uh, let me change subjects. Uh, the vice president went down, uh, to Latin America and gave some
00:40:22.080
beautiful speeches where she said, don't come, don't come. Um, however, you know, my, my, my father
00:40:31.280
used to say, it's not your words, it's your actions. So son, you can tell me anything, but I see the way
00:40:37.280
you're living your life. I see the way you're acting. Uh, and that's all that matters. Uh, I think
00:40:42.900
the same thing is being, uh, can be said, uh, for those people who want to come to America illegally,
00:40:49.360
uh, or just want to come to America and they find this as an easy path. She may say these things,
00:40:55.920
but are they taking any steps to slow this problem down? So both of those points are spot on. Look,
00:41:06.180
it's a, it's a joke. Let's be honest. I mean, the, the, the cartels and human smuggling organizations,
00:41:12.140
I mean, they're laughing at this administration, right? And the words don't come. It's even worse
00:41:16.920
than that because, because they're not saying don't come right. So we're talking about those
00:41:21.380
that are intentionally illegally in our country. They're not saying don't come. They're saying
00:41:26.100
don't come yet. Right. So, so it's even, it's even worse than the fact that it's just words. I mean,
00:41:31.480
their own words are telling them to still come. It's just a matter of when you should come. But look,
00:41:37.200
you know, when, when your policies, uh, absolutely are juxtaposed with what you're saying that the
00:41:43.440
cartels, the human smuggler organizations, they are complex, uh, effective organizations. They know
00:41:48.820
our immigration laws and policies and loophole better than most American citizens. They know
00:41:53.480
that what's being said is irrelevant. It doesn't matter. They know that policy is what matters.
00:41:57.800
And they know this administration's policies have dismantled every effective policy authority
00:42:02.900
and tool that we had in the Trump administration. And our borders are effectively open. If you're
00:42:07.880
an unaccompanied minor, the borders are open. If you're a family, the borders are open. If you're
00:42:12.380
previously enrolled in the remain in Mexico program, the borders are now open to you. And I could go
00:42:17.220
on and on that the cartels know it, the immigrants know it, and they're exploiting that every single
00:42:21.740
day. And every time I see, say that it's just a joke. Um, the, uh, the vice president's trip,
00:42:30.300
uh, she's avoided it and avoided it and avoided it. And then Donald Trump said he was going to go
00:42:35.220
down and all of a sudden she's interested in going to the border. What do you expect to see,
00:42:40.040
uh, this weekend or, or any, anything what's going to happen this weekend? Do you think?
00:42:46.600
I think we're going to see a lot of nice, um, uh, pictures and photo opportunities and soundbites
00:42:54.880
where she's talking to non-governmental organizations and other open border advocates,
00:42:59.620
you may see her tour an area that does not have a wall behind it, our facility that is pristine
00:43:07.440
and is not overcrowded. I mean, Glenn, come on, right? Let's be honest. You just said it. I think
00:43:12.840
majority of the American people that are really honest, see, see, see this for what it is. This
00:43:17.240
is all absolutely the white house scrambled around trying to deal with the optics of political optics
00:43:23.500
now being driven because president Trump said he's going like, it was just, it was just a few days
00:43:27.660
before, uh, this vice president was act. I mean, physically laughing, laughing and joking about
00:43:34.320
the, the absolute unmitigated crisis of Southwest border and making fun of it and calling it this
00:43:40.020
thing. And then after the president Trump said he's going down now, all of a sudden it's important
00:43:44.080
enough for her to go down. And look, here's another thing too. And I think this is important. This is
00:43:49.480
not semantics where she's going, Glenn is important. She's not going to the epicenter,
00:43:56.140
which is the RGB, the Rio Grande Valley. That's the epicenter of the crisis, the lower part, lower
00:44:01.880
part of Texas. They, they, this, this fiscal year, almost 275,000 apprehensions. They're getting the
00:44:07.900
brunt of it. If she really wants to see the crisis, that's where she's going. She's going to El Paso,
00:44:13.380
which is about a thousand miles away. I mean, literally that, that would be like, you know,
00:44:17.320
going to a state that just had a catastrophic hurricane. And you're going to the outskirts
00:44:21.860
of the town where buildings haven't been impacted rather than going to the heart of the epicenter
00:44:26.480
and standing next to buildings and houses that have been destroyed and talking to the people
00:44:29.920
whose lives have been destroyed instead of people who their house is still intact and they really
00:44:34.220
weren't affected. I mean, that's what it is. Again, it's all form over substance. And Glenn,
00:44:39.500
real quick, I don't, what we're not going to hear is we're not going to hear her take responsibility
00:44:43.900
for the crisis. We're not going to hear her call it a crisis. We're not going to see her talk to a
00:44:48.880
democratic elected sheriff for 42 years. That's going to say, this is the worst crisis he's ever
00:44:53.540
seen in his history along the Southwest border. And the fact that his deputies have recovered over 40
00:44:58.620
bodies, dead bodies of immigrants. We're not going to hear her talk to, right. We're not going to hear
00:45:04.380
her talk to border security experts, seasoned agents. That's just going to say, you know, ma'am,
00:45:08.280
we're getting killed. We've, we've, we've received over 200,000 gotaways this year. People have gotten
00:45:13.820
past us because we're being distracted with providing daycare services to families and kids
00:45:18.580
leaving large areas of border wide open or the 7,500 apprehensions of criminal aliens they've done
00:45:25.300
or the thousand gang members they've arrested that, and those that get away, make, make them,
00:45:30.560
make themselves into every town city in the state that we're not going to hear. And the last thing I'll
00:45:35.260
say is that we're, I know we're not going to hear is any specific policy action that they're going
00:45:44.120
to take to stem the flow and address the crisis. We're not going to hear that. Mark Morgan, former
00:45:49.880
acting, uh, uh, customs and, uh, border protection, uh, commissioner, uh, visiting fellow from the
00:45:57.400
heritage foundation. Thank you so much for talking to us and please pass on, uh, my, my feelings to
00:46:05.180
every border patrol agent out there. And I think I speak for millions of people on this. We appreciate
00:46:10.640
what they're going through. We understand as much as we possibly can, and we are behind them. Please
00:46:17.680
don't give up on, uh, on the rest of America and doing their job. God bless Mark. Thank you so much.