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00:00:30.000 Hey, great podcast today for you. We talked to somebody who has direct connections inside of

00:00:35.160 Iran. What is going on in the ground? He broke some news, talked about vaguely. I questioned

00:00:43.680 him on it. He's like, yeah, probably not going to say that. But somebody is training

00:00:48.560 citizens in Iran for the uprising. Interesting. Also, we had a really great conversation that

00:00:57.980 may not sway you one way or another, but good food for thought to make sure that you're not

00:01:04.880 calcifying your thinking on anything. Is there such a thing as Islamism, and is it different

00:01:13.320 than Islam? Is a Muslim always a radical, or have they been radicalized? We had a great conversation

00:01:23.660 with Dr. Azuti Jasser on this.

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00:04:01.360 We have been very outspoken about what is happening in Iran, who the bad guys are. 1.00

00:04:10.400 and this has been going on long before the war was there and we had the crown prince

00:04:19.100 on with us and it was the first time that we had had a a serious major cyber attack

00:04:26.980 on our systems we have had them now four times yesterday was another day where we were having

00:04:35.780 a ddos attack uh and we're having it again today if you are an insider thank you for putting up

00:04:43.120 with this it seems like the more we talk about radicalized islam in the middle east especially

00:04:49.780 with uh iran in particular somebody is trying to take our site down uh so we appreciate it that is

00:04:58.120 the importance of this network's radio family they can't take us off of the radio but we appreciate

00:05:07.020 your patience with this we are being told that it is a major attack that would would have to be

00:05:15.080 at this level some sort of a massive if not state-directed kind of ddos attack so i guess

00:05:27.000 it makes our next guest even more important um uh hosro is uh isfahani is the national union

00:05:35.480 for democracy and iran research director he grew up it was raised in tehran he lived there for

00:05:42.620 30 years he worked as a journalist and a frontline human rights defender until 2021

00:05:47.300 this guy is braver than i think most of us put together he is infiltrated secret missile

00:05:53.140 facilities, he smuggled classified documents out, and he delivered aid quietly to the communities

00:05:59.280 placed deliberately in harm's way over the years. And I have been watching what he has to say. He

00:06:06.080 has sources on the ground in Iran. Welcome. How are you, Hosro? Hi, Ghislaine. Thanks for having

00:06:14.220 me, and thank you very much for your kind words. And more importantly, thank you for bringing light

00:06:20.140 and attention to this very important story and obviously the regime is not happy about what

00:06:26.080 you're doing thank you yeah well i have to tell you i think every american uh everybody in the

00:06:32.240 world should be concerned about what's happening to the iranian and the persian people um they have 1.00

00:06:36.920 been living under this dictatorship forever and you don't have to be pro-war or anti-war you just

00:06:44.060 have to be you have to have some compassion for what the people have going have been going through

00:06:49.140 between the women the children homosexuals i mean anybody uh that they don't happen to agree with 0.95

00:06:56.880 they slaughter and i don't i i wanted to talk to you because i'd like to get a feeling of what

00:07:02.900 is the mood on the ground in iran i mean they came out in droves about 30 000 of them were

00:07:10.560 slaughtered after that now they're inside the president is saying stay inside but will they

00:07:17.760 come back out is there an appetite for coming out on the streets and risking it all again

00:07:25.040 here's the thing people in iran already are back out right now we are celebrating noruz

00:07:32.860 the persian new year the actual celebrations the main one happened a couple of days ago on march

00:07:39.300 20th before noruz itself we have this fire festival in iran every year people get together

00:07:46.040 make bonfires, jump over them, making good wishes for the next year, dancing, singing.

00:07:52.080 That's the usual.

00:07:53.360 This year, Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi, the leader of the opposition, issued a call asking

00:07:58.600 people to celebrate this national moment, this national moment that we have held dear

00:08:04.800 in our hearts, despite the Islamic Republic trying to erase the Iranian history, Iranian

00:08:10.400 culture, Iranian heritage.

00:08:12.180 He called on Iranians to not engage security forces, just celebrate the occasion in your neighborhood.

00:08:20.620 And people listened, as always.

00:08:22.640 They took to their streets in their neighborhoods.

00:08:26.140 They were singing, dancing, chanting against the supreme leader, against the new supremester, Mini Mushtaba,

00:08:33.840 and the whole regime against the IRGC in support of the crown prince, all of that.

00:08:39.200 There is a video that came out the same night. A woman is addressing Prime Minister Netanyahu saying, Bibi June, dear Bibi, we know that you won't let them touch us.

00:08:51.260 And this trust, this trust that people took to the streets celebrating was not in vain.

00:08:58.060 The regime actually had issued threats telling people that we are going to kill you if you come to the streets to celebrate.

00:09:04.780 And they dispatched forces. Basij militia was dispatched. And each of them, each convoy of these militiamen that tried to approach the celebrations, they were taken out by Israeli drones.

00:09:19.100 The United States and Israel have finally stepped in, providing the Iranian people with a fighting chance against this Islamist occupation of Iran that has lasted for almost five decades.

00:09:32.580 we have been fighting this regime non-stop since its inception we have been on the streets

00:09:39.820 march 1979 women took to the streets in iran opposing the imposition of the sharia law we

00:09:46.820 have been out every year every day fighting this regime so many people have died in iran

00:09:53.060 We have buried so many loved ones.

00:09:57.260 In Iran, you don't have any weapons whatsoever, and Americans are not going to put boots on the ground.

00:10:04.820 They're expecting the people to be the boots on the ground, but again, you don't have any weapons.

00:10:09.360 So how does the boots on the ground actually work?

00:10:13.060 What does it look like with the Iranians just coming out of their houses? 1.00

00:10:17.480 I mean, it could be really bad.

00:10:20.220 the IRGC is still, you know, somewhat in control?

00:10:25.340 Let me give the answer to you in three parts.

00:10:28.300 First part, when in January, Crown Prince Jezopalabi issued a call on people and people

00:10:35.060 took to the streets in millions, they brought with themselves to the protests the actual

00:10:41.900 flag of Iran with the lion and the sun.

00:10:44.920 Hundreds of flags flooded the streets of Iran.

00:10:48.240 Those flags don't grow on trees. People have been preparing and those flags are the lowest hanging fruit on that preparation tree. Much more has been done. I cannot go into very much the details, but a lot of technologies have been deployed and drones and all that we are seeing. These are just the start of it. A lot more is ready to go.

00:11:14.220 the Iranian people are the boots on the ground. But the next two parts of my answer, one, 0.99

00:11:21.000 what the United States and Israel have achieved during this military campaign. A lot of naysayers

00:11:26.660 in the West, after three weeks, we are not even at four-week milestone. The United States and

00:11:33.960 Israel have dismantled the Islamic Republic leadership to great extent. A lot of targets

00:11:39.460 are still there. Ahmed Wahidi, Qalibaf, the parliament speaker, Ejaei, the judiciary chief.

00:11:46.500 These are the actors that are holding the regime together. Targeted killing of these individuals

00:11:52.800 will lead to the collapse of the leadership of the Islamic Republic, which already is happening.

00:11:59.620 A lot of military bases, the commanders have deserted their posts. That's one side. But more

00:12:06.280 importantly, the arms of oppression of the Islamic Republic has been targeted repeatedly by Israel

00:12:12.720 and the United States. So far, hundreds of besieged militiamen have been taken out in targeted drone

00:12:20.980 strikes. Many more have been injured and many, many more are not showing up for service. They

00:12:28.800 are scared and the regime cannot even pay them. The situation that the regime is facing is dire

00:12:35.080 and they cannot hold it together for long.

00:12:38.620 But back to your actual question.

00:12:41.480 Iranians have been preparing.

00:12:43.820 A couple of, two weeks ago, I think,

00:12:46.260 Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi finally publicly announced

00:12:49.640 the existence of the Immortal Guard,

00:12:52.600 Guard Ajavidon,

00:12:54.280 a decentralized, self-organized group of people,

00:12:58.840 multiple circles across the country

00:13:01.400 that have been trained and are ready to go.

00:13:05.080 Iranians are the boots on the ground. 1.00

00:13:08.540 Trained by who?

00:13:11.520 I cannot go into details of that.

00:13:15.180 Too much is at stake, and we are talking about a war zone.

00:13:20.700 Okay.

00:13:22.020 Well, that is good news.

00:13:24.740 I had not heard that before.

00:13:25.800 One of the things I have heard to try to discourage those who want Iran to be free is that the people are turning on the United States and Israel because of the bombing, that they're saying, now you're killing us, and now they're turning on us.

00:13:47.340 Is there any truth to that?

00:13:48.480 In every society, you have outliers. Before this whole military operation started, the Islamic Republic and a bunch of lunatic leftists organized a pro-Pali rally outside Tehran University.

00:14:06.140 They were able to get 20, 30 people outside Tehran University to chant in support of Hamas and Hezbollah and other terrorist groups.

00:14:16.260 And more importantly, we are dealing with a situation that internet has been caught. Yes, some dissidents have received satellite internet and technological tools that is enabling them to circumvent the blockade.

00:14:31.420 But a lot of the noise that is coming out of the Islamic Republic is generated by the Islamic Republic. 0.98

00:14:40.300 Remember a couple of months ago, there was a story all over the news about white SIM cards, SIM cards that the regime removes all online limits for and give it to influencers to push its line.

00:14:54.120 There is also another piece of evidence of them doing the same thing.

00:14:58.200 When the regime's foreign minister was on air giving an interview using Internet, he was questioned, why do you have Internet while the whole nation is offline?

00:15:09.220 He responded, I'm the voice of the nation.

00:15:12.240 They are providing Internet to these type of influencers to push an anti-U.S., anti-Israel narrative.

00:15:20.820 But what we hear from people in Iran is that with every missile hitting this regime, people are rejoicing. 0.99

00:15:29.180 When Nowruz was happening, traditionally people visit the graves of their loved ones.

00:15:34.640 When you kill tens of thousands of protesters in cold blood, hundreds of thousands are going to visit their graves, and they did.

00:15:44.180 There is a video of a mother, a mother at the grave of his son killed, and she's shouting, addressing the United States and Israel and telling them, God bless you, you made our hearts happy after this darkness.

00:16:01.940 This is the mood that we are seeing coming out of the country.

00:16:06.040 Is there something that the people are waiting for?

00:16:11.960 Is there a signal they're waiting for?

00:16:14.180 Is it is it Donald Trump just coming out and saying now?

00:16:18.980 It's multiple elements.

00:16:21.180 One, the decapitation at the top needs to continue.

00:16:25.660 Multiple individuals are still in place.

00:16:28.280 They have been engaged, apparently, or who knows what's happening in negotiations.

00:16:35.100 Those individuals are actual terrorists.

00:16:38.780 And the United States have been saying that it doesn't negotiate with terrorists.

00:16:42.960 We need to stop talking with these people and also let our allies finish the job of taking them out.

00:16:49.440 That's one element.

00:16:50.820 And two, two weeks of targeted campaign, taking out the Islamic Republic's arms of oppression, would turn the tide, give the Iranians an actual chance in this uphill battle. 0.68

00:17:04.440 We have been fighting this for the past five decades.

00:17:07.520 I have been involved with it for 17 years.

00:17:10.740 We are unrelenting.

00:17:12.960 This is, you're saying that there's still a lot of targets left before that signal can be given.

00:17:19.920 Yes, and that's my understanding from every military and security source that we talk with,

00:17:26.120 that the military campaign is far from over.

00:17:30.060 And which war against a major terrorist sponsor like the Islamic Republic,

00:17:35.840 a state that has killed so many people inside and outside the country,

00:17:40.040 has occupied land beyond the borders of Iran.

00:17:43.740 Look at Lebanon, look at Syria, look at Yemen, look at Iraq.

00:17:48.460 How a war against such a regime can be over in three, four weeks.

00:17:53.540 The timeline is not too far from being over,

00:17:59.260 but there is much more needed to be done for the call to arrive.

00:18:04.880 And President Trump has repeatedly told the Iranian people,

00:18:08.300 stay home, stay safe while the bombs are falling. When they stop, the call will arrive from the

00:18:14.980 leader of the opposition, Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi, and Iranians have shown that when that 1.00

00:18:20.440 man speaks, they listen. Osro, I appreciate it. I pray that your people will be free. This is

00:18:27.700 probably it. I mean, if the people don't in the end rise up, if we don't weaken them enough and

00:18:35.820 give you the opportunity to rise up it it may unfortunately be another half century before you

00:18:41.040 have this opportunity again so i pray this goes well osro thank you very much thank you for having

00:18:46.540 me you bet you bet osro isfahani the national union for democracy in iran you're listening

00:18:53.800 to the best of the glenbeck program let me take you through just a couple of things that are

00:19:00.780 happening here in America. Cut four. These are Muslim protesters in Philadelphia. They are 1.00

00:19:08.380 protesting our soldiers and our stance on Israel and Palestine. I want you to listen to this. Cut 0.99

00:19:18.480 four. Philadelphia. Until we have done everything in our power to bring the United States to its

00:19:24.160 knees let us not lose sight of the enemy for every u.s military base that crumbles and for every u.s

00:19:32.440 soldier who returns home in the casket we cheer okay stop notice that's an american accent that's

00:19:40.540 not a foreign accent it's an american accent we cheer for every soldier that comes back in a body

00:19:46.100 bag and let's not forget the enemy the enemy he says there is the united states we will bring it

00:19:51.840 to its knees um here in philadelphia again um this is a uh was posted by a great service out

00:20:00.080 of the middle east called memory what they do is they they take videotape from all over the world

00:20:04.740 that is in arabic and they translate it so people know exactly what's happening in their areas

00:20:09.280 um we thank memory uh tv um this is from philadelphia these are islamist kids listen to

00:20:20.020 what they are singing in a little skit that they're doing.

00:20:25.040 Go ahead and play a little bit of this.

00:20:28.820 This is not in English. 1.00

00:20:32.600 But in this Philadelphia mosque, we will chop their heads off. 1.00

00:20:39.580 We will liberate the sorrowful and exalted Al-Aqsa. 0.99

00:20:44.300 That's Jerusalem.

00:20:45.600 We will subject them to torture. 0.97

00:20:48.620 Rebels, rebels, rebels. 0.95

00:20:49.720 They're talking about the great Satan and the little Satan.

00:20:52.860 That's in Philadelphia.

00:20:55.700 Here's a North Carolina scholar defending child marriage.

00:20:59.700 Listen to this.

00:21:00.960 Now, what's the age of marriage in the U.S.?

00:21:04.920 Every state has a different age.

00:21:06.360 There are some countries outside in the world, girls can marry at 12 years old.

00:21:12.080 Okay, what's the issue of this?

00:21:13.480 if in africa girls reach maturity much much younger even here in the u.s i know we have some 1.00

00:21:23.080 students from our families from our acquaintances the girls grade five and they reach maturity they

00:21:31.280 reach puberty very briefly the worst enemies of the prophet muhammad peace be upon him in his own 0.55

00:21:37.620 time did not object on this and did not say to him oh look he's marrying a young uh a young

00:21:43.800 lady and in islam it's understood it by consensus you can marry a child so you can marry a child 0.99

00:21:53.400 you can marry a child that is a scholar at north carolina state university

00:22:00.100 what is happening to us we have been invaded and i laid this out on my special last week

00:22:10.240 if you have not seen it does it come out today would we have the what part do we have coming out

00:22:16.860 we'll have it by tomorrow we got bonus content we have bonus content tomorrow you're going to

00:22:20.380 see these full interviews plus you have the entire special you'll have about an hour to two hours

00:22:27.360 more bonus material yesterday and a booklet that will help you understand this that you'll be able

00:22:33.480 to share with your friends you'll be able to get it if you're glenbeck.com slash torch just join us

00:22:38.540 torch that hopefully will all be out uh tomorrow uh so you can share this information but in our

00:22:44.920 special we have dr zutty jasser zutty is a dear friend of mine i've known him for i don't even

00:22:52.540 know 20 years probably um it wasn't i think i was at cnn when i first met him he is a primary care

00:23:00.260 physician uh he is he used to be a lieutenant commander in the u.s navy um physician to

00:23:08.620 congress and the supreme court justices he is also the founder of the american islamic forum

00:23:15.240 for democracy and the Muslim reform movement. The reason why I like him so much is this guy

00:23:23.040 has paid and his family have paid such a heavy price because he's a Muslim, but he says there's 1.00

00:23:29.460 a big difference between a Muslim and an Islamist, and he is trying to reform Islam. Imagine being 1.00

00:23:36.480 that guy. He is also now running for Congress. I fully support him. He is running for Arizona

00:23:45.220 is fourth district. It's a swing district. You can find more about him at Z4AZ, Z4AZ.com.

00:23:55.420 Zutty, thanks for coming on.

00:23:57.920 Oh, anytime, Glenn. It's great to be with you. Thanks for talking about this. It's the most

00:24:02.160 important discussion in the 21st century. So I'm going to push back hard on you because I really

00:24:09.680 want to have an honest discussion about this you said in the special there is a difference and i

00:24:16.100 wasn't sure honestly at the beginning of the special i wasn't sure that i fully agreed with

00:24:22.200 that i thought i did but i didn't fully agree with it i wasn't married to it until i heard some other

00:24:27.140 things in the special and then i think i'm there but i want to play pushback and devil's advocate

00:24:31.980 because in the special you said there is a difference between muslims and an islamist

00:24:37.780 One is political, and one is religious, I guess?

00:24:46.280 Yes, you know, and this is a construct.

00:24:49.220 As you know, as somebody who believes there's some deep need for reform in Islam,

00:24:54.520 and we haven't gone through the anti-theocratic movement yet,

00:24:58.540 you can't admit as a Muslim that you need reform unless you realize that the general consensus,

00:25:03.940 The leadership, the establishment of the faith has a cancer in it, and that is theocracy.

00:25:09.340 So you can call it political Islam, theocratic Islam, Sharia, supremacism, all those things are the same thing. 0.92

00:25:16.700 And is it the predominant Islam? Absolutely. 0.94

00:25:19.440 There's no doubt that normative Islam, as you played an audio earlier, most of the imams, 95% of the imams globally are problematic. 1.00

00:25:29.220 They are evil as far as their concept of humanity, of human rights. 0.54

00:25:34.480 Their values are incompatible with America, with the West. 0.99

00:25:38.640 And no different than our founding fathers that fought against theocracy, I as a Muslim have a moonshot.

00:25:45.820 I have a sense that this is where I think we can go.

00:25:48.660 I believe in liberty. I believe in that first liberty.

00:25:51.760 But even after our founding fathers fought for a revolution, it took them 13 years until they had a legal document.

00:25:58.240 and that they agreed upon and recognized that first liberty as being religious liberty.

00:26:03.100 So as an American and as a Muslim, I say, you know what?

00:26:06.620 We have to recognize that there's a table.

00:26:09.820 We're not going to rename the religion.

00:26:11.980 The definitions, Islam is the faith.

00:26:15.380 Muslims are those who follow it. 1.00

00:26:17.420 The problem is the entire establishment, the leadership, the people that are making money from Islam, 1.00

00:26:22.780 the petro-Islamists of Saudi Arabia, of Iran, of Pakistan, the establishment that has dug their heels in the sand for the last thousand years. 0.95

00:26:33.080 But let's also not have an ahistorical approach to Islam, like any other faith, and say, listen, if the recipe was wrong,

00:26:41.340 the first three, four hundred years would not have been an era of enlightenment on the planet in which the Greek philosophers

00:26:47.900 and so many philosophers are translated into Arabic and other languages

00:26:52.080 while the West was still grappling with the Dark Ages if the recipe was wrong.

00:26:57.080 But it went from 4,000 schools of Sharia to essentially four,

00:27:01.720 and you had basically now for 1,000 years.

00:27:04.720 This is why what's happening in Iran is so amazing.

00:27:07.160 If you don't separate Islamism from Muslims and a possibility of reform, 1.00

00:27:14.640 who are the people in Iran,

00:27:15.840 The people on the street that reject theocracy, are they in a vacuum?

00:27:20.520 Do they not have a faith?

00:27:21.880 Are we going to disenfranchise them from their relationship with God?

00:27:25.560 And I want to end this comment with what you and I, we've become such good friends.

00:27:29.400 And I can tell you that as you met my wife, you met my kids.

00:27:34.280 You know, my kids are God-fearing, moral, sentient human beings who have a strong relationship with morality.

00:27:40.700 They aren't morally inverted like all these satanic cultish death cult folks of the Islamists. 0.92

00:27:47.100 They would die for their fellow Americans regardless of their faith. 0.65

00:27:50.800 They believe in God and fast and pray.

00:27:55.180 And who are they praying to?

00:27:56.480 It must be a faith that has some type of moral compass.

00:28:00.900 And if we say that's not a faith and we don't even want to call it Islam, we recognize that we're a minority report within that faith.

00:28:07.980 But we also have to, we can't leave, you know, I recognize that the seats at the table are empty, that the most majority of Muslims are silent, and we have given them a pass. No, don't give them a pass. Put fire under their feet. Tell them that they're like the silent Nazis in Germany, you know, silent Germans under Nazi Germany. Yes, tell them that. Get them awakened. But don't deprive them and disenfranchise them of their relationship with God and the faith of Islam.

00:28:36.120 on you know that was something that we did in world war ii you know i said i was someplace

00:28:41.020 speaking and it just kind of came out of my mouth and i thought well that's going to cause some

00:28:44.720 problems um but let me repeat it now to a bigger audience um uh you know when we went into germany

00:28:52.880 you know we knew who the we knew who the enemy was um and we knew who the the germans were that 0.92

00:29:00.600 were good because not all germans were nazis but the ones that were good were the ones that were 0.98

00:29:05.060 like the Nazis are over there. Get those guys, help us, help us. We knew because the, the good

00:29:11.840 guys would self-identify and help. Um, the bad guys didn't. Um, and you know, you, you get to

00:29:20.760 a point to where this is going to get so bad. If we can't have logical conversations, if we can't

00:29:28.280 just be shouted down every time we try to have this conversation, it's going to get to the point

00:29:32.900 Zutty, where everybody's just going to assume that every Muslim is bad. And in the special

00:29:41.160 that I saw, one of the things that really convinced me or helped convince me was the

00:29:47.340 number of Muslims that when the Muslim Brotherhood and others were taking over and buying all of the 0.99

00:29:53.280 American mosques, most people don't even know this happened, buying all of these mosques and 1.00

00:29:58.460 taking them over it was the american muslim that were standing up reaching out to our government

00:30:03.660 and everybody else going help help help help we're being taken over by really bad people

00:30:08.780 and they were and we didn't do anything and now what do you what do you do if you're in that

00:30:13.880 community now how do you speak out exactly and that we have to recognize that uh america really

00:30:22.400 has the answer and that europe you can almost put a fork in it because their version of democracy

00:30:28.440 is a racial version in which, for example, one of the founding scholars of the concept of Islamism

00:30:34.840 that understands it was Bassam Tibi, a German scholar. He retired in America because he said,

00:30:40.260 you know, I lived in Germany for 40 years and I never felt German because they didn't have 1.00

00:30:45.300 a culture of absorbing folks of all different, you know, origins, ethnic origins that could then

00:30:52.180 become American or become German. So he retired in America. He said, Americanism as that 0.64

00:30:57.680 anti-theocratic religious liberty is the only way to create a strategy against political Islam, 0.94

00:31:04.800 against these viral movements. So let's look at the threat. 1.8 billion Muslims globally, 1.00

00:31:10.980 30 to 40 percent are dyed-in-the-wool Islamists, which is five to 600 million people. So that's a 1.00

00:31:17.580 massive movement. So yes, people who say that Islam is a problem are right. There's not that

00:31:22.800 much daylight between them and me. But the issue is, what is our strategy? As a West, to save the

00:31:29.260 West, we have to have a strategy of an offense. And the head of the spear of that offense,

00:31:34.400 I'm not alone. The people of Iran are more on the offense than me, because I've been protected by a 1.00

00:31:40.080 country that has gone through this revolution. And by the way, the woke, the bigotry of low

00:31:46.040 expectations, all of that needs to go away, because it's giving Muslims a pass in America, 1.00

00:31:51.080 So they do become more passive and sort of let, you know, the Iranians fight the battle against Islamism when, in fact, it's coming here to our shore. 0.99

00:31:59.520 So we have to fight it here in this laboratory that we can do it better than anywhere on the planet against theocracy.

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00:32:12.780 so let me take you back in the final days before world war ii began britain did something that most

00:32:21.340 governments never ever do they planned for fear they had just lived through world war one they

00:32:27.500 knew what they were headed into they planned for bombs and guns but they also knew they had to have

00:32:33.920 a plan for what happens to a population when the ground beneath them is no longer stable

00:32:39.860 when rumor outruns truth and anxiety is just spreading like a wildfire.

00:32:47.900 The British Ministry of Information prepared for a different kind of war,

00:32:54.160 and they produced different kinds of weapons.

00:32:57.460 What they did is they prepared messages, in particular three messages.

00:33:03.980 each one was designed for a different psychological moment in the war that they believed were going

00:33:11.820 to come to london and to the streets okay and so the first message was put on a poster and it was

00:33:18.720 pretty severe freedom is in peril defend it with all your might that's what it said freedom is in

00:33:27.340 peril. Defend it with all your might. That's not a comfortable thing. That is a jolt. Wake up.

00:33:34.260 It was designed. Wake people up. Take a population that might still be thinking in peacetime terms 0.99

00:33:40.920 and force them to understand this is an existential fight. This is not about politics.

00:33:46.340 This is about your very survival. Wake them up. And it aimed to create real clarity and urgency

00:33:54.920 and cut through the denial that a lot of citizens were living in.

00:34:01.700 They needed to feel the weight of the responsibility at a time where war perhaps was distant and not real.

00:34:10.960 The second poster was for the next phase of the war, when the war became more obvious.

00:34:17.180 The second poster out of the three softened the tone but really sharpened things.

00:34:21.960 that poster read your courage your cheerfulness your resolution will bring us victory

00:34:30.180 that poster was released once the war had begun the war now people were awake it had become real

00:34:38.600 fathers and sons were dying on distant battlefields the storm clouds were visible

00:34:43.460 growing darker every day and now the question was not do we act or not how do we endure

00:34:51.340 and families were stressed out you know the story of what happened with the children over in england

00:34:58.560 during the war is just amazing the children didn't understand what was happening the parents

00:35:03.140 were struggling with the basics the british pound was not buying you know what it could

00:35:08.020 everything cost more and more and the pound you know was worth less and less and the message was

00:35:14.620 meant to shape the behavior under that kind of pressure. And it promoted something more

00:35:23.660 difficult, courage under fire. Hey, be happy. Cheerfulness can be found in scarcity. And there

00:35:32.740 will be a resolution over time. And it told people the emotional discipline is part of the

00:35:38.380 war effort. We're counting on you. I mean, the message is so British, and also from such a

00:35:45.800 different era, it's kind of hard to relate to. You know, hey, cheerfulness is, really? But it worked.

00:35:52.500 The posters were up everywhere. Now, most people don't remember the posters, and certainly no one,

00:36:00.040 even in England, remember the third poster being posted from the war. It was printed in the

00:36:06.920 millions and it was kept in boxes same look same kind of message but this one this one they hope

00:36:14.180 they never had to use it was it was held back for a very specific moment catastrophic failure

00:36:21.660 you know a time when germany would use overwhelming force they would be landing on the shores they'd

00:36:28.560 be destroying the streets of london maybe killing the king followed by god forbid german occupation 0.63

00:36:34.620 that's what that poster was for it was for people that you know their confidence was shattered they

00:36:41.900 stopped trusting that there would be a brighter tomorrow and everything about their society would

00:36:47.080 begin to fray then and only then the final message that third poster was supposed to be released and

00:36:53.840 put up everywhere okay it wasn't meant to rally it was meant to hold the line inside the human mind

00:37:01.240 so they print it they have it ready and then comes the blitz night after night london burns

00:37:08.980 people are sleeping in tunnels fires lit the sky entire neighborhoods disappeared and the children

00:37:16.120 of london were set out on trains to the rural areas of great britain to people they didn't know

00:37:22.980 the families didn't know they just put the kids on the train and then they'd pull up to a station

00:37:27.700 out someplace in Great Britain and they'd say, hey, who will take these kids? So moms could stay 1.00

00:37:35.260 in the city and work and fathers would go overseas to fight and the kids would be safe.

00:37:42.820 At that time, there was even talk about sending the royal family off the island, perhaps to America,

00:37:47.860 just to preserve the crown to fight for another day because they thought the Germans were coming.

00:37:52.720 the moment the government had planned for looked like it had arrived but something unexpected

00:38:00.300 happened the people were already doing what that final poster was meant to instruct

00:38:07.320 they were already steady they had already adapted they had already endured without being told

00:38:12.760 and officials said wait wait wait wait if we put this message out we put these posters up

00:38:17.560 it might feel like we're patronizing you know it might sound like the government is lecturing people

00:38:21.760 who have already carried a heavy enough load they don't need our help so the order came quietly down

00:38:28.400 do not distribute this poster destroy these posters most of them were all destroyed they

00:38:33.620 were burned they were discarded or forgotten the message meant for the darkest hour never saw the

00:38:40.560 light until decades later there was a small bookstore barter books it it had just bought a

00:38:50.780 whole bunch of old books at some auction and in this box of books tucked away was a copy one copy

00:38:58.400 of that poster nobody had ever seen before it was an original it was a survivor a rare survivor

00:39:03.880 the store didn't really know the story they just thought the design was beautiful and the words

00:39:09.200 were so simple it kind of stuck with you so they framed it and they put it up on a wall

00:39:12.540 and customers stopped and they looked and they asked and a message designed for national collapse

00:39:20.300 began spreading in a time that didn't look anything like war.

00:39:26.280 I thought about this poster yesterday.

00:39:28.080 I was sharing with you a list of things you could do in your own life

00:39:30.960 to grow the muscle called courage in small ways

00:39:34.260 so it would be in shape when you need it.

00:39:36.680 And this poster came to mind.

00:39:41.020 Because we're not living in a time where we have falling bombs,

00:39:45.600 on us at least.

00:39:46.800 But the worst case scenario that the British were worried about back in the day is happening today with us just in a different way. Their worst case was occupation. Enemy occupation. A breakdown of society, of courage, most importantly, loss of hope.

00:40:07.200 i contend that's what we're living through right now and not not occupation from one enemy but

00:40:16.320 dozens they're not marching in uniform they're entering through screens through noise through

00:40:22.720 constant pressure even the enemy that whispers doubt and fear in your mind while you're laying

00:40:29.160 in bed at night trying to get to sleep it is occupying you the reason why we're having a

00:40:35.260 hard time fighting this war is because you can't see it there's no battlefield it's in your head

00:40:39.700 there's no single front line there's no air raid sirens there's you know no bombs going off this

00:40:47.040 is why it's so hard to fight this one when you're physically under attack your friends are dying

00:40:52.080 the streets are on fire buildings are being destroyed every day day after day everyone knows

00:40:57.820 it. And just like September 11th, it bonds people. It knits them together in a shared struggle.

00:41:06.660 We don't even agree on the struggle. We're fighting a war that is easily deniable,

00:41:12.940 a war where no leader has even clearly identified what we fight and who we fight.

00:41:18.780 Our families are being destroyed from outside and inside as we fight our own loved ones for

00:41:25.700 some strange reason. There are no bombs, but make no mistake, every day we are fighting information

00:41:35.580 that is overwhelming, lies and technology that's so well-crafted now, you can literally no longer

00:41:42.420 believe what you see or hear. Narratives that divide, economic pressure that's just grinding

00:41:50.860 you every day, a generation growing up without any kind of clear foundation, a culture that

00:41:59.360 has defined and redefined and then defined and redefined reality over and over again

00:42:04.280 until you don't even know what to trust, you don't even know what's true or real.

00:42:11.700 And perhaps the worst of all, more and more of us surrender to the enemy of despair and

00:42:18.120 apathy. I make the case we are living in occupied territory right now, but instead of land, it's a

00:42:27.780 tension of thought of inner life. The battlefield isn't out there. It's in each person every day

00:42:37.240 deciding what do I believe? What do I fear? What do I focus on? What do I ignore? It is literally

00:42:43.580 the battlefield of our minds, and that is the hardest kind of war to fight, because

00:42:50.300 bombs unite people.

00:42:53.700 Confusion isolates them.

00:42:59.520 And that's why I thought of that poster yesterday.

00:43:01.880 I think that's why that final message matters more now than it did then.

00:43:07.260 It wasn't written for comfort.

00:43:09.660 It was written for discipline, to remind people, you don't have to solve everything.

00:43:13.580 You don't have to absorb everything. You don't have to react to everything,

00:43:17.640 but you have to remain steady. You have to remain engaged in everyday life.

00:43:22.600 Don't give in to despair or anger. Just live your life quietly. And that's not surrender. That's

00:43:28.660 control. Remember, you choose every day. You choose deliberately show up for your responsibilities,

00:43:36.180 protect what's yours to protect, speak the truth, refuse to let chaos dictate your state of mind.

00:43:43.580 The bombs that were sent to destroy everything they knew and loved were real, obvious, and uniting, and the British lived it, which is why that message was never needed.

00:43:56.900 No one needed to tell them.

00:43:57.920 that box of books

00:44:04.980 where that third never seen poster

00:44:09.780 was tucked into, was sold

00:44:11.400 and coincidentally opened

00:44:14.160 just a few months before 9-11, 2001

00:44:16.860 when the owners found it

00:44:20.400 as I said, they had it framed

00:44:22.140 and they hung it on the wall of that bookstore

00:44:23.800 and it didn't take long before people started asking

00:44:26.980 if they could buy a copy of it. And the owners made a few prints here and there, but then they

00:44:33.180 finally started to print copies of it en masse right around the time of the financial crash of

00:44:39.560 2008. That is when everybody saw it. They couldn't print enough copies to keep up with the demand.

00:44:45.620 It swept the world overnight. Today, that's a hun. I mean, you can find it on everything. It blankets 0.99

00:44:53.240 the whole world t-shirts coffee mugs aprons refrigerator magnets anything you can print it

00:44:59.680 on it was printed on and most people don't even know the story most think now i'm sure

00:45:05.220 that's a cool image you know catchy slogan some slick urban outfitters product department dreamed

00:45:12.600 it up to make a buck but the reason that connects with people is because it it feels like and is

00:45:22.640 the opposite of that. It's authentic. It's real. It's true. But even those who do know that it's

00:45:32.040 authentic probably think it's famous and been around forever, but it hasn't.

00:45:40.380 Personally, I'd like to think it was preserved by chance and hidden away amongst the dusty books in

00:45:46.080 some attic or basement, simply waiting for our time, this time, to let us know clearly

00:45:53.040 and simply, it's all going to work out.

00:45:58.120 We're going to make it.

00:46:00.360 Stop overthinking everything.

00:46:02.660 Stop frantically and fearfully trying to fix the whole world.

00:46:06.660 All you really have to do is so simple.

00:46:11.460 Like the poster said, that third poster.

00:46:16.080 Keep calm and carry on.

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