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00:00:00.000 I want to explain Iran's 10-point, you know, peace treaty and how ridiculous it is because

00:00:06.920 it sets us back to the time of Thomas Jefferson. And of course, France is going to say yes to this

00:00:14.000 because that's what France did at the time of Thomas Jefferson. A way to look at what's

00:00:19.580 happening in the Middle East through history that I have not heard anybody point out,

00:00:24.240 And it is exact parallel.

00:00:26.820 Also, we have a great story to tell you.

00:00:30.640 The Rescue with Ed Rush.

00:00:32.420 Ed Rush is a former Top Gun pilot, former U.S. Marine.

00:00:36.760 And he can take us through the whole story of the rescue of that missing pilot.

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00:00:44.680 Also, Keith Wilson up in Canada talking about the breakaway,

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00:03:01.460 There's so many amazing things that have happened.

00:03:04.180 I mean, everybody was born for a reason at this time,

00:03:07.840 and God is using all of us.

00:03:09.660 I mean, look at what happened in space yesterday.

00:03:11.780 it's just miracles happening in space and then the gospel is being preached from space and then

00:03:18.480 this pilot what does he signal to say i'm alive god is good i mean it's just incredible what is

00:03:25.660 happening ed rush is with us now former top gun uh pilot retired u.s marine uh his website is

00:03:34.100 GodTalks.com. Hello, Ed. How are you? Glenn, God is indeed good. I have to say, as a fighter pilot,

00:03:42.680 I've had goosebumps for the last 24 hours just watching the details of this mission unfold. I

00:03:48.260 watched the president's press conference, obviously, yesterday. And I think you're right,

00:03:52.740 and very stood in saying how the president reacted. It was just all about our ground

00:03:57.520 forces and our air forces. And I'm amazed. I think we're going to walk through this step by step. But

00:04:02.300 overall i just think it's an incredible testament to the american fighting men and women and what

00:04:07.020 we've been able to accomplish in training and in war and it's and it's a testimony to when

00:04:13.960 a politician just lets the experts do picks the right x experts to lead and then lets them do

00:04:23.360 what they can do and just unleash just go get the guy bring him back it's amazing what they can

00:04:30.360 accomplish amazing and i was in as i was as impressed with this almost as impressed with

00:04:38.280 sending somebody to the moon last week it's not just this mission it's pretty much everything

00:04:45.000 the military has done under this current administration operation midnight hammer what

00:04:49.000 we did in venezuela i mean the level of execution we went into venezuela and came out without a

00:04:54.380 single loss of life and so what you just said glenn is totally right when you have a command

00:04:59.480 control structure that that moves authority down to the low levels which is where it should be

00:05:04.040 down to the warfighter level you have unbelievable execution it's a real change of pace from what

00:05:08.980 we've seen in the past okay so ed let's start at the beginning first i have to ask you have you

00:05:14.720 ever had to eject out of a fighter no and thank god god is good so the last it is literally like

00:05:21.880 the worst case scenario i mean what dude 4-4 bravo experienced over the last three days

00:05:27.160 is the worst i mean it's like coming out of the airplane having to survive i know we're going to

00:05:31.560 walk through all this step by step but i've never ejected thank god like i have a roommate uh who

00:05:36.680 ejected went out of control completely out of control in the f-18 uh ejected was recovered

00:05:41.400 safely over the sands of yuma arizona and he glenn he was an inch and a half smaller like

00:05:46.740 literally smaller his spine had compressed so much that he was smaller so it's not a it's not

00:05:52.960 a good deal okay so they're flying and we don't know how they were shot down um we i thought we

00:06:01.960 had taken care of all of their um you know their rockets and everything else do we know how they

00:06:07.680 were shot down so what did the iranians use as to the weapon but what i can tell you so i was in a

00:06:13.900 i was flying in iraq we had ultimate air superiority in iraq when i was there in 2004 2005

00:06:19.940 That didn't mean we weren't occasionally getting shot at by surface-to-air systems.

00:06:24.920 So when we go in to fight a big war like we came into Iran, what fighter pilots will do and what the military planners will do is called rolling back the IADs.

00:06:34.680 That's the Integrated Air Defense System.

00:06:36.200 You start with the big systems.

00:06:37.660 We're talking about systems that can shoot 100, 150 miles out.

00:06:41.040 You start with the communication nodes.

00:06:42.400 And really what you're left with, and you're pretty much left with this for the remainder of the war, are individuals carrying shoulder-launched surface-to-air, infrared-guided surface-to-air systems, so there's no radar signature, there's no electronic signature that we can target, and small arms and AAA.

00:06:59.960 For the most part, our tactics keep us above what's called the WES, the weapons engagement envelope of those systems.

00:07:07.360 So flying 20,000 feet and above or 25,000 feet and above, typically you're outside of that zone.

00:07:12.700 My suspicion is that these F-15Es, which are strike aircraft or air-to-ground aircraft, were probably flying low enough to look for targets.

00:07:22.020 In other words, they were trying to get eyeballs on maybe a moving target, maybe something that they were trying to find on the ground so that they could direct air on top of that.

00:07:29.260 And while they were doing that, they took fire from this infrared surface to air system.

00:07:34.240 I'll bet you probably 95 to 99 percent that it was an infrared guided system like press and SA-18 that was either Iranian or provided potentially by the Russians.

00:07:44.820 So they're hit. Alpha is fine, rescued pretty much right away.

00:07:52.780 And and how is it that Bravo was so far away?

00:07:56.840 What was he like, like 40 miles or some crazy distance from the other pilot?

00:08:03.680 How did he get so far away?

00:08:05.800 Yeah, I mean, so you have an airplane.

00:08:07.300 So, I mean, kind of walk through the sequence of what would have happened.

00:08:10.120 So, they're flying their mission.

00:08:11.540 Both of them are probably looking out the cockpit in one direction or another.

00:08:14.940 Typically, one pilot or the wingman will pick up an air-to-ground signature of a launch.

00:08:20.060 Typically, you'll see the smoke or the corkscrewing smoke that comes out of the ground, and then you begin evasive maneuvers.

00:08:25.560 Typically for this kind of system, you would be putting out chaff and flares that's designed to defeat the infrared seeker.

00:08:32.600 In this case, obviously it wasn't defeated, or it was, but it just got close enough to where the blast radius of the weapon was enough to disable the airplane.

00:08:40.580 And then at that point, you begin an ejection sequence.

00:08:44.020 Still TBD as far as like how quickly they had to eject.

00:08:47.860 It sounds like he sustained injuries on ejection, and usually that's a sign that they're at pretty high speed.

00:08:52.340 If you have an aircraft that's disabled and you can slow it down, you are a lot more survivable in an ejection.

00:08:59.560 But, for example, if your airplane's spinning or if it's going at a high rate of speed, if you pull the handle, you're going to hit the wind stream at 400 to 500 miles an hour, which is like getting hit by a plane.

00:09:09.600 And to put it into context, the moment you pull the handle, 20 G's erupt underneath your bottom.

00:09:16.560 That's enough, by the way, to kill a person if it's sustained.

00:09:19.360 So that's 20 times your body weight.

00:09:21.240 So, like, if you're a 200-pound person, you're now 4,000 pounds if I just did the math right.

00:09:26.920 So you're, like, getting rocketed out of this thing as quickly as possible.

00:09:31.100 And there's injuries sustained just from the G-forces.

00:09:34.060 I'm talking about just in training when people go through ejection sequences, they can get injured in that way.

00:09:40.260 But now you're in the wind stream, and you're going 400, 500 miles an hour, sometimes faster, and all of a sudden you're hitting this wind.

00:09:46.540 And a lot of times what happens to guys is they break arms or legs because their arms literally flail out into the wind.

00:09:52.740 And so they train us as pilots to pull our arms and legs and to find an ejection position.

00:09:58.140 And so this pilot, it said that he had 44 Bravo, had back injuries.

00:10:03.140 I would imagine those injuries were sustained either from the ejection itself, which is probably the most likely, or from the parachute landing.

00:10:11.380 Because remember, now that you've sustained 20 Gs, now that you're in the wind stream, you're in a parachute.

00:10:16.640 You know, the pilots, we always say it's better to be swinging in the sheets than singing with the angels.

00:10:21.600 You're better off, you know, in a parachute than you are in an airplane that's about to crash.

00:10:25.260 But as you're on your way to the ground, then you have to land and you're coming down pretty fast.

00:10:30.180 And so the injuries were either sustained on the ejection or on the landing.

00:10:34.040 And then you have to escape.

00:10:35.260 I'm not sure how they got so far apart.

00:10:36.980 But it is common for the pilot and the backseater named the Wizzo to be some distance apart because the ejection sequence, not only does it send them in at different times, there's a there's a little bit of a delay between the backseat and the front seat so that they'll separate from each other.

00:10:50.300 But often one will go right, one will go left. And then by the time you hit the airstream and then maneuver your canopy, you could be miles apart.

00:10:56.880 so when you eject there's got to be an automatic system that sends a beacon out to the military

00:11:04.480 says hey we got a plane down and here's where each pilot is or do you have to activate that yourself

00:11:10.180 so okay so the airplane itself has a beacon so what happens the moment you eject

00:11:14.540 is both seats come out uh both pilots head in one direction or the other and then the aircraft

00:11:21.260 itself ejects like you know when we talk about the black box in a in a civilian aircraft yeah

00:11:27.740 the pilot the aircraft itself ejects its memory system and so there's literally like a box that

00:11:33.260 comes flying off the airplane that carries with it the memory of essentially the last uh day of

00:11:38.280 of flying so that investigators once they find that can do their investigation and find out what

00:11:44.160 went wrong with the airplane that box itself also can carries an emergency a beacon along with it

00:11:50.320 And so the rescuers can find that piece of the aircraft, but the pilots themselves aren't broadcasting a beacon.

00:11:57.880 And that is obviously for their safety purposes.

00:11:59.880 It's designed so that the pilot has a choice whether they can turn their radio on and off.

00:12:05.240 The survival gear that a pilot will have is typically a survival vest.

00:12:08.340 It has like minimal food, some chewing gum for real.

00:12:11.400 There's literally chewing gum in there.

00:12:12.960 A little tiny bottle of water.

00:12:14.280 Each pilot will have a radio that's essentially a satellite radio designed to connect with the CSAR forces.

00:12:20.320 And then they'll have a sidearm. So when I was in combat in Iraq, I carried a nine millimeter pistol, which just, you know, is like completely worthless. Unless it's like you and one other person, that 15 round magazine is not going to get you anywhere in combat. It's probably last resort. And truthfully, you're about to die if you're going to use your pistol. And so you're armed with all of this.

00:12:39.960 Especially a nine millimeter.

00:12:41.700 Yeah, nine mil.

00:12:42.500 I mean, some of the guys, by the way, since, you know, I was a Marine, a lot of the guys

00:12:46.240 carry 45s, you know, because of much worse stopping power.

00:12:49.380 But like, anyway, so the military gives you a Beretta, this small Italian made weapon.

00:12:56.720 And you carry it thinking, I'm never going to shoot anybody with these small Italian 1.00

00:13:01.560 nine millimeter rounds.

00:13:03.480 You know, but you carry it anyway.

00:13:05.500 And so, yeah, so the pilot, it's up to him whether he's going to turn his radio on or

00:13:09.600 on or not. And typically what will happen is you hit the ground, you release your parachute. That's

00:13:14.660 really important because otherwise it'll literally drag you across the ground. You secure any gear

00:13:18.720 that you have so you don't like leave anything behind. And then you set, you find cover or

00:13:22.760 concealment. Like you're trying to find a place where you can hide before you bring out your radio

00:13:26.680 because the moment you start broadcasting, especially depending on the gear that you're

00:13:30.220 using, there's forces that can triangulate in on your position. And so obviously you want to

00:13:34.780 be judicious as to how you use that radio wow so then um let me take a break and we'll pick it up

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00:15:18.600 all right so let me go over the the 10 point plan you know and the only two the two of the

00:15:27.660 points you know don't need the rest of the eight because it's unworkable because of two points and

00:15:32.640 i'll explain why here in a second the deadline uh for trump is tonight at 8 p.m eastern time

00:15:40.280 he says he is going to go after uh everything uh he's going to go after their power plants

00:15:47.820 their bridges, et cetera, et cetera. Uh, he can't actually do that. Uh, I mean, you can go after

00:15:54.500 power plants, but he, he has to have a real legitimate military reason for it. You don't

00:16:00.360 want to hurt the people. And by the way, that would be a really bad thing. According to the

00:16:04.280 Geneva convention, you don't, you just don't take power away and just make the whole country suffer.

00:16:10.220 You have to have legitimate reasons to strike those things. Um, and if they strike, that's what

00:16:17.820 they will be doing they will be talking about those legitimate reasons on what they struck

00:16:21.720 and we'll know beginning tonight at eight o'clock now some people say this is taco tuesday

00:16:29.240 trump always what is it trump always chickens always chickens out yeah i don't think he does

00:16:34.860 i really don't think he does i think he uh makes his statements and usually people move and last

00:16:40.660 night it looked like maybe they were moving because they came out with this 10 point proposal

00:16:45.260 but there's two parts of it that are just unworkable totally unworkable the first part

00:16:50.140 of the proposal is a guarantee that iran would not be attacked again and an end to israeli

00:16:56.740 strikes against hezbollah in lebanon lifting all of the sanctions as well well that's not going to

00:17:01.540 happen it's just not going to happen it's unreasonable to think it would then they said

00:17:06.320 they would also lift their blockade of the shipping route through the strait of hormuz

00:17:11.100 however they added on that they also now get to you know have a fee that they would impose per

00:17:18.620 ship of two million dollars per ship no that's not going to happen either that's not going to

00:17:25.100 happen so why why can't why can't that happen why can't that happen i want to give you some history

00:17:32.100 that you you may know many people in america do not know our first foreign war was actually started

00:17:40.680 and finished by Thomas Jefferson. We have to go back in the early 1800s, just after the ink is

00:17:48.600 just barely dry on the Constitution. The United States is young. We are broke. We're trying to

00:17:54.420 figure out what it means to exist in a world that really doesn't care about all men are created

00:17:59.660 equal. We're completely alone in that idea. And then on the other side of the earth in the

00:18:05.840 Mediterranean, which nobody had been over to the Mediterranean, I mean, very few had been over the

00:18:10.140 Mediterranean back then. There's a system that had been in place for generations that most Americans

00:18:16.440 didn't even understand. And it was led by the Barbary pirates operating out of Tripoli and

00:18:23.460 Tunis and Algiers and Morocco, but Tripoli played a big, big, big role. This was highly organized.

00:18:32.440 It was state backed and they would go out as pirates and they would seize ships. They would

00:18:38.980 seize crews, cargo, and if you were lucky, you were held for ransom. If not, you were just

00:18:44.840 disappeared into slavery because they could do whatever they wanted with you because you were 0.94

00:18:49.620 an infidel. Europe had been dealing with this system for a very long time, for years, for decades. 1.00

00:18:55.960 Europe had paid the toll. It had paid the bribe. And it said, just leave our ships alone. Do whatever

00:19:03.660 you want with the women and children. Just leave our ships alone. That was Britain, France, and 0.99

00:19:07.820 spain they were the main ones and they had made a quiet agreement to pay an annual tribute and

00:19:14.700 you know they would pay them whatever they wanted it was just quote the cost of doing business

00:19:19.500 pay the rulers along the barbary coast and your merchant ships can move refuse and your

00:19:26.460 merchant ships are going to be taken everything on them is going to be taken and your people will be 0.98

00:19:32.040 taken. So everybody in Europe was like, okay, we got to pay for it because nobody wanted to fight

00:19:40.620 them. Then America shows up. And at first under George Washington, we did exactly that. We did

00:19:46.820 what everybody else was doing. We paid and we paid a lot. And we have to remember there was

00:19:52.000 no Navy to speak of. We didn't have an appetite to fight another war. We had just gotten out of

00:19:56.940 the war for independence. So the last thing we want to do is like, Hey, let's go fight another

00:20:00.580 at war. It's kind of like how popular it is right now. Okay. So money goes out the door to keep

00:20:07.300 American crews from being dragged off in chains and it doesn't work because why? When you are 0.78

00:20:14.440 negotiating with terrorists, when you're doing bribery, what happens? You pay and then they're

00:20:20.480 like, you know what? I think you can pay more. The demands grow. They always do. They demand

00:20:25.420 more money. So at one point, nearly one-fifth of our federal revenue is tied up in tribute.

00:20:32.700 Imagine that. That's like, imagine that it's slightly less than what California is stealing

00:20:39.040 from us today. 20% of our budget was going to the Barbary pirates, the Islamists over in Tripoli.

00:20:48.140 Just as our country is being born, we are already being taxed 20% by a foreign power that is 1.00

00:20:54.720 offering us nothing in return but the promise of we're going to leave you alone we'll look the

00:20:59.500 other way until we decide to raise the price jefferson gets in and he's like okay this is

00:21:04.820 ridiculous this can't happen so we have the first foreign war the barbary pirates war

00:21:13.120 not good we refuse to pay the ruler of the Barbary pirates goes to a U.S. consulate 0.64

00:21:24.920 and he cuts down the flagpole the U.S. flagpole well that was a declaration of war and so we went

00:21:31.120 to war now when we go to war what does Thomas Jefferson do he suggests that a copy of the

00:21:39.500 Koran is printed in English. We have an original copy at our library in Dallas. In that Koran,

00:21:49.000 it actually has a warning. It says, look, you have to read this. You have to read this. You

00:21:53.840 have to read it in context. You have to read the whole thing, and you have to remember it because

00:21:58.440 these people are serious, and you are not going to believe the absurdities that a good portion

00:22:06.500 of the world actually believes like slavery you just take people slaves now it's weird because

00:22:13.440 we also agree with slavery at that time or many people do so they're looking at the quran and

00:22:20.040 saying this is what the barbary pirates believe this is why we can't negotiate with them so we

00:22:26.220 are now facing this decision we can't avoid we have to either keep paying or or what we become

00:22:34.480 europe pay it and accept whatever line comes next or we do what jefferson said you know i saw this

00:22:42.240 in europe and it's not going to work out well he knew that the tribute doesn't buy peace it buys

00:22:47.580 time and listen to this it buys time and what always happens when the clock is running the time

00:22:54.020 always runs out so america fights not popular not convenient it feels exactly like it feels today

00:23:04.260 our navy however is really small the distance is like to the other side of the moon supply lines

00:23:11.380 are almost non-existent the guarantee is or the outcome is not guaranteed this is where we get

00:23:17.680 from the marines leather necks they actually put leather and tie them on around their necks

00:23:23.220 so they can't be beheaded as they are fighting with the barbary pirates okay so we go to war

00:23:30.260 But the alternative is worse, which is a permanent tax paid to people who see you as nothing but prey. 1.00

00:23:36.300 You are prey or you are a slave or we can kill you. 1.00

00:23:43.820 There's a line in the song for the Marines to the shores of Tripoli. 0.99

00:23:50.600 And every time you sing that song, but nobody really knows, you know, it's just a song now.

00:23:58.560 but basically what that means is we're done paying. We are not going to pay anymore.

00:24:04.800 Now we fought. It didn't end piracy overnight, didn't fix everything, but it broke the assumption

00:24:10.300 that the only way to survive was to hand over money and hope. Okay. Why am I telling you this

00:24:15.580 stupid story? Because for the last few days, as I've seen this negotiation go on, I'm thinking 1.00

00:24:21.340 to myself, this is the same pattern. This is exactly the same pattern. You've got a narrow

00:24:28.020 stretch of water. The world depends on this, the Strait of Hormuz. It's sitting near that

00:24:33.120 choke point where we get all of our oil and a regime that is sitting there, an Islamist regime, 0.96

00:24:39.940 exactly like the Barbary pirates. No, if we create enough instability,

00:24:45.560 we can force people to pay to keep things moving. So deals start forming.

00:24:52.740 Keep the passages open. We got to keep the tankers moving. So who leans into this first?

00:24:58.020 of course first at the plate france and france they believe france has already negotiated to pay

00:25:07.560 two million dollars per ship that's insanity well energy needs are uh real and the people

00:25:16.920 don't want war okay mr frenchy french okay say what you want but you know i don't think you've

00:25:25.100 changed since the days when all your men used to paint their faces white and put that black

00:25:29.220 mole on their cheek. You're exactly the same people you were during the Barbary Pirate War.

00:25:34.420 But it will buy us time. Buy us time? For what? When you have one side applying pressure,

00:25:42.920 what do they use that time for? To get stronger and more entrenched. And what do you use it for?

00:25:49.800 well we are going to eat cake we are going to go back to sleep because we think everything is fine

00:25:55.240 exactly right and eventually the bill is going to come due because it always does

00:26:00.340 so here we are the united states in exactly the same position that thomas jefferson was in whether

00:26:08.440 you want to admit it or not that's it here we are we're looking at the sea lanes and we're saying

00:26:13.940 to the rest of the world i don't know about the rest of you but we ain't paying it we're not doing

00:26:17.600 it. We're taking on a risk that everyone else in the world is like, no, we will just manage

00:26:24.800 our payments. We will be safer in the short term. There's a cost to that, a huge cost and a cost to

00:26:33.460 what we're doing, financial, political, human. It's not clean. It's not popular. People are

00:26:41.100 saying, this is overreach. Really? To me, it looks like we're carrying the weight once again

00:26:48.840 that others have chosen to set down. But this president is not carrying that weight for France

00:26:54.600 or England. You go ahead, make your own deal. You want your oil? Go get it. Go get it.

00:27:01.560 But exactly like our first foreign war with the Barbary pirates, the Islamist Barbary pirates, 0.98

00:27:07.760 There comes a time when somebody needs to stand up and say, no, this is an evil system.

00:27:13.720 We are viewed as prey to these people.

00:27:17.380 We are not paying them so they can become stronger.

00:27:20.760 If access to the world's arteries, whether it's the Mediterranean, whether it's the Persian Gulf, doesn't matter.

00:27:27.240 If it all depends on paying these people off, paying people off, whoever threatens you, then trade is not free.

00:27:37.280 it's conditional it's taxed by force and once that becomes normal it spreads

00:27:44.320 back in Jefferson's time 0.76

00:27:48.780 the world was convinced that's just how is how everything works you just pay the

00:27:54.780 Barbary pirates because fighting them is fighting them is so hard my little black

00:28:02.120 mole on my really super painted white face might peel off 1.00

00:28:06.200 and so they just lived with it until somebody stepped up and went now that's a stupid system 0.99

00:28:12.940 look at the pattern side by side really hard to ignore 0.96

00:28:19.400 and by the way let me add this to the pattern do you know who's really against foreign wars

00:28:25.340 thomas jefferson

00:28:28.480 now there'll be a foreign war but then he saw the ideology that is exactly the same

00:28:37.880 and the logic that we're fighting today is exactly the same and intact pay now deal with

00:28:44.300 the consequences later or refuse and pay the consequences immediately when you're strong

00:28:50.740 not after making them stronger neither path is easy one just hides the cost longer makes you

00:28:57.960 feel better. I have a croissant. Europe learned, or I thought they did, maybe they've forgotten

00:29:09.380 their own history, but they're making the same calculation again. What I find fascinating is,

00:29:17.200 I'm going to wildly butcher and paraphrase Jefferson here, but Jefferson, when we ended

00:29:25.820 the Barbary pirates war. We didn't finish the job. Okay. Because we're tired of these foreign 1.00

00:29:33.760 wars. So we didn't finish the job and he gave America some advice and I'm going to paraphrase

00:29:42.340 him wildly paraphrase him here, but it's, it seems like the exact advice that we need to hear.

00:29:48.440 basically he said hey everybody we've just fought a foe that sees you as prey 0.97

00:29:56.180 we just fought a foe that will kill you because their god says they can because you're an infidel 1.00

00:30:04.120 they will take your wives and your children as slaves because they can they believe these things 0.99

00:30:12.280 religiously. This is not just some ideology. This is a religious fervor that has been put

00:30:22.020 into a political system. And if we're not careful, if we don't finish this war,

00:30:29.620 they will come back stronger and we will have to fight what may be America's last war.

00:30:38.600 boy the parallels here are just worth paying attention to aren't they

00:30:44.220 this is the best of the glenn beck program

00:30:48.620 keith wilson from canada canadian attorney uh to talk a little bit about albertans and uh also

00:30:57.980 the gun grab that is going on keith welcome glenn thanks for having me on

00:31:04.680 so i would have never guessed that canada would actually i don't know um elect a bunch of

00:31:17.080 officials that would say hey all those guns that you used to have we're now going to come and

00:31:21.300 collect them and then actually kind of talk about going door to door i mean they don't have the

00:31:25.760 people to do that how how are they going to grab these guns from people i don't know but it's very

00:31:32.740 frightening, obviously. I mean, the reality is the Liberal government in Ottawa has brought in

00:31:39.740 these crazy laws designating otherwise legal hunting rifles, sports shooting rifles, etc.,

00:31:50.240 to be prohibited weapons. First, they gave us a grace period, as you mentioned, so we were allowed

00:31:56.160 to keep them in our gun safes, but we couldn't take them out. Then they implemented, which just

00:32:01.000 concluded a buyback program where they would give us a little bit of money if we all showed up with

00:32:06.980 our guns. They don't know. There's no registry, so they don't know who has the guns. So they wanted

00:32:11.600 us to come forward and turn our guns into police stations, and that was a flop. Only 2% of the

00:32:17.320 people did. So now we're all facing this deadline that if we don't turn in our guns by October 31st

00:32:24.600 of this year, we will all be criminals and we will be charged and jailed for possession of a

00:32:31.740 prohibited weapon. It's so many things, Glenn, that are happening north of your border are just

00:32:39.360 so difficult to believe, but they're real. And there's a lot of trouble up in Canada. And that's

00:32:45.520 why so many here in Alberta want to get out and form our own country and get away from this madness.

00:32:50.640 so i mean two percent of canadians actually you know abided by the deadline and actually said

00:33:00.840 okay here's my gun um that's a small number so you have 98 of those who had guns did nothing

00:33:08.860 about it i mean we've seen this movie before it does not end well um are the police behind that

00:33:15.760 I mean, I've heard that this is just a law that they don't really even care about.

00:33:20.200 It's just to appease the voters in Ottawa.

00:33:22.820 Is that true?

00:33:24.400 Yes, the voters in Quebec.

00:33:25.640 There's a real radical leftist fringe in the controls effectively or has disproportionate influence over the cabinet and the decision making in Ottawa.

00:33:37.840 But the police chiefs, the police chiefs associations en masse have come out and said, look, law-abiding gun owners are not criminals.

00:33:48.040 They're not the ones committing the crimes.

00:33:49.900 The violent crime that we're seeing in our cities is with illegal handguns and illegally imported guns.

00:33:57.660 The criminals aren't going to say, oh, well, I was going to rob you tomorrow, but I guess I have to go turn my gun in so I won't.

00:34:03.820 It's just, it's nonsensical. And as you know, and we all know, history is consistent. When citizens are disarmed, it doesn't cause governments to become more benevolent. History has shown very bad things happen. And so it makes us very concerned up here in Canada.

00:34:25.280 And of course, it's happening in a context of all kinds of other madness that I think you have some awareness of.

00:34:33.820 uh i gotta tell you the mad the maid thing is terrifying yeah i mean it's a culture of death

00:34:40.500 it is terrifying i'm so glad that you've shined light on it glenn because uh uh my wife and i

00:34:48.320 were not that long ago in miami on business and we had an uber driver and she was seemed to be

00:34:55.400 awake to things and we were trying to explain to her what happened i could tell she didn't believe

00:34:59.060 us. But it's incredible that over 100,000 people, they're now using it because you know the failings

00:35:05.860 of our socialized healthcare system. It's just, but it's free. Yeah, but you die on waiting lists.

00:35:13.220 You know, like, yeah, but it's free. No, the system doesn't work. So now they've come up with

00:35:19.020 this workaround where, and as you know, it's remarkable. It started off with people with

00:35:25.500 cancer and terminal illness at the end of life and then they started shifting to people who had

00:35:31.980 various kinds of injuries that might be expensive to treat like cost and now they're moving it as

00:35:39.520 you're aware into mental health issues so if you're depressed because you you can't afford

00:35:46.320 to live in our country because of the inflation and reckless government policies up here

00:35:50.620 and you're feeling down on life,

00:35:53.600 they're moving into offering government-assisted suicide.

00:35:59.380 That is a thing in Canada.

00:36:03.540 You know, socialized medicine worked in the Netherlands for a while.

00:36:08.600 It doesn't work now because you had a very homogeneous kind of society.

00:36:13.280 Everybody was on the same page, very much like Canada for a while.

00:36:16.640 You had a small enough population that it could generally work.

00:36:20.740 But once you started importing people and you just put them into the hospitals, put them into the systems, and there's nobody paying for it, no doctors, no expansion, of course you're not going to have enough medicine.

00:36:35.360 I mean, is there anyone talking common sense like that?

00:36:38.700 I mean, I know you don't have, for instance, talk radio, et cetera, up there.

00:36:43.100 Is there anyone talking this common sense in Canada?

00:36:46.640 There is in our alternative media, but the legacy media, the phenomenon we have in Canada, is that all of the equivalents in Canada of a Fox News or a CNN or a New York Times, they all receive substantial to the tune of several hundreds of millions of dollars of government grants.

00:37:09.760 This is a new phenomena that started about five or eight years ago.

00:37:13.920 And so they're basically all extensions of the government.

00:37:18.500 If I've ever am interviewed and I say something that's really critical of the government, it never gets printed because the editor says to the reporter, yeah, that's true.

00:37:27.800 I might agree with Mr. Wilson.

00:37:29.140 But if we print that, we're going to get a call from Ottawa and we're going to get our funding cut.

00:37:33.280 We're going to have to do more layoffs. 0.99

00:37:35.140 So we've lost our freedom of expression up here, at least freedom of the media to have these serious discussions.

00:37:42.680 But people are alive to what's happening and increasingly concerned, at least in the western provinces for sure.

00:37:48.820 So what is happening to Alberta?

00:37:51.200 I mean, I just saw that you have the numbers now to force this onto the vote next fall, where you could break away as a province and start your own country.

00:38:07.600 A, is there enough support in Alberta to actually get that done?

00:38:11.740 B, do you actually think Canada would allow you to do that?

00:38:14.800 I mean, you are the Texas of Canada.

00:38:17.060 we are and what's unique about about canada is it's the only government or country rather

00:38:25.720 in the western world that has a legal process for a region or a province in this case

00:38:32.720 to go through a voting process to become independent and leave the country and form

00:38:37.280 its own you know nation state and that's that is unique and it's a process that's set out by

00:38:43.680 the Supreme Court of Canada in a 1998 case, and it lays the process so that if a clear majority

00:38:50.820 of voters within a province vote on a clear question for independence, that triggers two

00:38:57.400 routes to independence. One is the parties have to enter into good faith negotiations, meaning

00:39:03.620 Alberta needs to go into a meeting room with the federal government and the other provinces and

00:39:08.480 say all right we've got national parks here we've got military bases in alberta we'll pay you the

00:39:14.060 federal government certain amount of money for those bases and national parks you owe us this

00:39:19.500 much money federal government for our pension plans and other things and and hash it all out

00:39:24.380 and then the province is independent and it's a free country uh the other path is if the parties

00:39:30.280 don't enter into good faith negotiations and that's something we're very concerned about here

00:39:34.520 in Alberta, is you can do unilateral declaration of independence.

00:39:40.560 However, that relies on international recognition.

00:39:44.120 So if the United States and other countries are prepared to recognize Alberta independence,

00:39:50.060 it creates a clear pathway.

00:39:53.560 And what's remarkable about our government here, Glenn, is you may or may not recall

00:39:58.680 of the controversy last september over international recognition of the state of

00:40:04.140 palestine our prime minister mark carney came out without consulting with our house of commons or

00:40:10.000 anything and announced that the government of canada would unilaterally recognize the independence

00:40:17.020 of the state of palestine even though it doesn't have any borders or anything else so we sat here

00:40:21.600 in alberta and watched this and we're going wait a minute our prime minister just renewed and

00:40:27.120 refresh this international concept and international law of other nation states giving recognition to

00:40:33.560 breakaway states and we're on a path here in alberta to follow that route so um well i would

00:40:41.980 just my recommendation to you is hurry before donald trump leaves office because he'd recognize

00:40:47.780 you guys i don't know if anyone else would but he would well and and and as he should because

00:40:54.560 And remember that Alberta, this province equivalent in size to Texas, immediately north of your Montana border, we have the third largest reserve of oil in the world.

00:41:07.480 And we are, in fact, the largest supplier of oil to the United States.

00:41:13.620 I know there's a perception by some Americans that you get most of the oil that you bring in from Venezuela and the Middle East.

00:41:20.300 That's simply not true.

00:41:21.560 61% of your imports come from us here, your friends up in Alberta.

00:41:27.260 And it's not just that.

00:41:29.620 With the situation in Iran and the closure of the Strait of Hormuz,

00:41:33.600 there's 1,000 ships stuck there.

00:41:35.700 It's not just oil and natural gas on those ships.

00:41:38.220 It's helium that we need for making computer chips in the various countries.

00:41:43.880 And importantly, fertilizer.

00:41:45.540 You know your farmers in Iowa and on the plains are very worried about fertilizer.

00:41:49.720 Well, here's your neighbor to the north, Alberta, that wants to become independent, wants to become your best friend.

00:41:56.920 And guess what else we're supplier of?

00:42:00.060 Fertilizer.

00:42:01.300 So what I'm hopeful is we now have a date set, Glenn, for the actual vote on independence.

00:42:10.560 And it's going to be October 19th.

00:42:13.860 Interesting.

00:42:14.600 Think about this.

00:42:15.240 What did we first start talking about?

00:42:16.680 the october 31st deadline for the gun gun grab it's it's so october's gonna be a busy month up

00:42:22.600 here so on october 19th albertans might be voting and hopefully will be voting to become an

00:42:30.320 independent country and the united states will be getting a new neighbor uh your best friend

00:42:35.620 and uh we're culturally aligned we have shared values we have far more shared values from alberta

00:42:42.520 with the United States and Americans than we do with these leftists in Ottawa.

00:42:46.640 We're so done with them, with all of their harmful policies.

00:42:50.780 Glenn, we have the third largest reserve of oil and gas in the world.

00:42:54.640 The world needs our products.

00:42:57.300 But these guys in Ottawa, they're all these climate cults, the climate cartel crew.

00:43:03.280 I know.

00:43:03.740 And we have net zero policies.

00:43:07.020 We have carbon taxes.

00:43:08.540 We have laws that prevent us from putting pipelines in and developing our resources.

00:43:15.380 I tell you, Keith, I wish you all the luck in the world.

00:43:20.500 I think what Alberta is doing is extraordinarily brave.

00:43:24.340 I've been watching the MAID, I've been watching the gun grab, and I've been watching this carefully.

00:43:29.480 And I think this is a real hope for the Western world.

00:43:33.920 If you guys can pull that off, that is, I think, very, very good for the health of the Western world.

00:43:41.480 Thank you so much, Keith.

00:43:42.520 We'll talk again.

00:43:43.640 Stay safe.

00:43:44.420 Thank you.

00:43:45.140 You bet.

00:43:45.560 Thank you.

00:43:45.780 You bet.

00:43:46.020 You bet.

The Glenn Beck Program - April 07, 2026

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