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00:00:00.000 hey want to tell you about our podcast today you are gonna love it yes we're talking about a new

00:00:07.240 social credit system that sounds great not for china this time but for us for us we get one too

00:00:14.120 yes and we've all opted into it oh i love that fantastic yeah that's coming up we have eric

00:00:19.760 bowling on he just talked to mike pence has an interview exclusively on the blaze that airs

00:00:23.580 tonight you don't want to you don't want to miss too that 5g does cause cancer uh i believe just in

00:00:30.860 cats and uh you know my love for cats so it's well and i'm not saying these things just to piss people

00:00:37.800 off no not at all that was clear i think in today's program um we also talked to someone about uh

00:00:43.600 luxury beliefs luxury beliefs what are luxury beliefs it's an interesting new phenomenon and

00:00:49.080 you'll see it it's sort of tied to virtue signaling i guess but that is on today's program and john

00:00:54.420 solomon with the latest on the russia investigation which is really fascinating the russia clinton and

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00:01:25.720 okay for anybody who hasn't been paying attention i want to explain the chinese social credit system

00:01:36.940 since 2014 in china the social credit system um is it has been implemented and is evolving into

00:01:48.520 a single nationwide point system for all chinese citizens and it is akin to a financial credit score

00:01:57.100 it follows you everywhere there is no place to hide from the cameras it is evolved now in

00:02:06.920 you have to have a certain app on your phone and they monitor you you every day you take a um you

00:02:16.220 take this app you open it up and you have to kind of take a test about what the great leader is doing

00:02:23.000 today and he you know it gives you all the news of what the great leader is doing and what the

00:02:28.360 communists are doing that is so good for you then you have to take a test if you don't open that app

00:02:34.440 every day your social credit goes down if you're not taking that test your social credit goes down

00:02:41.040 they track you and feed you everything that they want to feed you and you must consume it

00:02:50.720 if you jaywalk across the street your social credit goes down if you are if you speak ill about the

00:02:57.980 country your social credit goes down if you are talking to someone who has a low social credit score

00:03:04.740 your social credit goes down it is uh it is horrible what is happening in china it is becoming a true

00:03:16.460 police state orwellian 1984 and it aims to punish for any kind of transgression that can include

00:03:23.820 membership in or support for the falun gong or the or tibetan buddhism if you haven't paid your debt

00:03:31.040 if you have uh excessive video gaming criticizing the government late payments failing to sweep the

00:03:38.620 sidewalk in front of your store or house smoking or playing loud music on trains jaywalking anything

00:03:45.000 that is unacceptable by the chinese government it also awards points for charitable donations even taking

00:03:52.200 one's own parents to the doctor and the punishments are harsh there are bans on leaving the country

00:03:59.640 bans on using public transportation so in other words uh sorry all of a sudden you get to the bus and

00:04:06.640 your phone says offender not enough social credit you have to walk you're not taking a bus you can't

00:04:14.600 check into certain hotels you will immediately not be hired for any high visibility job

00:04:20.920 if you have spoken out against the government you have posted something that shouldn't have been posted

00:04:26.940 your children will be pulled out of the private school and may not even make it into a public school

00:04:33.140 it can result in slower internet connections and also uh social stigmatization

00:04:40.220 um because you are you are now registered on a public social blacklist

00:04:47.380 your your face actually goes up on billboards electronic billboards in your neighborhood

00:04:54.420 and anyone who interacts with you their social credit goes down

00:04:59.340 they brag that they can keep people locked in their house just because

00:05:07.340 they won't they won't be able to go anywhere

00:05:11.700 it is authoritarianism gamified now i've told you for a while if google and silicon valley is helping

00:05:23.600 them do these things what makes you think that they won't do the same here

00:05:29.000 well they are there are now 40 or so pilot projects operated by local governments at least

00:05:39.300 six run by tech giants now beijing is is doing this china is doing this they have two nationwide lists

00:05:48.280 one called the black list the other one is the red list that's kind of like a a white list here

00:05:53.520 uh the chinese government shares its list with all technology platforms

00:05:58.580 um they uh they give you every month a social credit and that social credit uh is determines the rest of your life

00:06:09.460 now some chinese people are unaware that this even exists at this point because they haven't gotten it

00:06:15.800 all to the entire country but their goal is china 2020 to have the entire country on this

00:06:22.560 surveys done by the government show that 80 percent of the chinese citizens that are surveyed

00:06:28.800 strongly approve of the social credit system of course they do you're tracking them

00:06:37.880 now if you are disturbed by any of this let me tell you what's going on now in america the new york

00:06:47.720 state department of financial services announced earlier this year that life insurance companies

00:06:53.760 can base premiums on what they find in your social media posts if you have an instagram picture showing

00:07:00.140 you teasing a grizzly bear at yellowstone with a martini in a hand and a bucket of cheese fries in the

00:07:05.400 other you're going to pay a higher rate however if you are doing yoga you're going to pay a lower rate

00:07:14.140 anything that shows you're healthy and wise you're going to get a lower rate anything that shows you

00:07:23.540 that you are doing anything at all dangerous you're going to get a higher rate now that seems kind of

00:07:31.020 reasonable it's like well you know i have i have insurance uh on me i can't go to a war zone i can't fly a

00:07:39.940 plane uh i can't go cliff you know climbing all the stuff i'm never gonna do i'm fine with they were

00:07:47.080 like you can't do these things anymore and i'm like does that include jumping out of a perfectly

00:07:51.020 good airplane with a parachute and they're like yeah and i'm like good check that one off my list

00:07:55.860 so you don't have a problem with it per se unless you do those things if you are somebody that is into

00:08:05.860 adventure sports you better tell the truth or you're going to pay a very high penalty

00:08:12.180 now there's also something called a patron scan so the insurance companies are kind of like well

00:08:18.980 i think that's probably okay you say you don't smoke and then you're seen smoking on facebook

00:08:24.460 that's probably okay but now now we have patron scan this company sells three products kiosk desktop

00:08:33.140 and handheld systems and what it is is designed to help bar and restaurant owners manage customers

00:08:40.080 patron scan is a subsidiary of the canadian software uh company a biometric company it's now on sale in

00:08:49.040 the united states canada australia and the united kingdom and it helps spot fake idea ids but it also

00:08:56.120 tracks troublemakers so when you arrive at let's say a patron scan uh using bar what they do is they ask

00:09:05.220 you for id they scan it the company maintains a list of objectionable customers designed to protect

00:09:13.180 venues from people who have previously had a problem in any bar fighting sexual assault drugs theft or any

00:09:21.240 other bad behavior but the bad behavior that list is up to each restaurant so if you go into some

00:09:32.840 restaurant with a maga hat can you be put on this scan now if you are banned in one bar you will be banned

00:09:44.400 in all bars that use this system and that's in australia the united states the united kingdom no matter

00:09:52.560 where you go you are known as someone who can't go into the bar now the kind of behavior all up to the

00:10:01.440 individual bar the owners of each bar can ignore the bans if they want the data of non-offending

00:10:10.480 customers is deleted in 90 days so even if you're not doing something wrong they're still holding all

00:10:18.220 your information for 90 days uh the they keep a private list that are not shared with other bars

00:10:27.040 if they want but if you are a bad customer it can be kept for five years um they do have uh an appeals

00:10:36.640 process but it's up to the company whether they listen to it or not uber and airbnb we all know that

00:10:45.220 when you get into an uber if the driver has written something bad about you you're probably not going to

00:10:52.600 get into another uber if you have somebody who who didn't like you can say whatever you're going to

00:11:00.800 not be able to use uber airbnb is now the same and that is a private list so if you are in a

00:11:08.320 an airbnb and think about how big airbnb is now if you're in an airbnb and the owner didn't like

00:11:17.700 something or said you did something even if you didn't do it they can alert airbnb it's kept confidential

00:11:27.040 you have no right to see what your accuser is telling you and you are banned from all airbnb

00:11:33.780 whatsapp also developing for communications a new uh social credit score for example you can be

00:11:44.400 banned on whatsapp if too many other users block you you can also get banned for selling uh for sending

00:11:50.320 spam threatening messages trying to hack or reverse engineer the whatsapp app

00:11:55.560 or using the service with an unauthorized app now this is small potatoes in the united states but

00:12:02.540 not for the rest of the world because in many parts of the world this is the main form of communication

00:12:07.680 not being allowed to use whatsapp in some countries is like not being able to use a telephone in america

00:12:16.180 now here's the problem nobody likes anti-social violent rude unhealthy reckless people we got it

00:12:27.540 so what's wrong with this technology as i have said before what is now being built completely changes

00:12:38.740 our system we have always had protections of the first and second amendment we've had protections of privacy

00:12:49.140 supposedly under the constitution we don't anymore first amendment freedom of speech nope uh how about freedom of

00:13:01.060 assembly nope freedom of of of assembly with people that you choose nope it's not protected

00:13:09.160 freedom of religion no uh they they're banning christian ads now just because they're christian

00:13:19.200 that doesn't sound like a good thing i mean that's protected by the constitution not really

00:13:27.420 uh second amendment nope anybody can say no no guns here and they don't have to do anything about it

00:13:36.960 they can pressure banks now to say don't do business with the gun manufacturers or the gun businesses or

00:13:44.740 people who have a gun don't do business with them we're going to cancel their their financial services

00:13:50.300 totally fine because it's a private company don't quarter soldiers in the house well the nsa is already

00:13:57.640 doing it but so is so is google so is amazon they're listening to your conversation there is no such thing as

00:14:04.740 privacy anymore and no law can stop these things because they're private companies they can do whatever

00:14:15.720 they want in china they're doing it by force because the government china is going this way

00:14:22.740 just as orwell predicted in 1984 but just as brave new world predicted huxley said it would come with a big

00:14:34.560 happy face on it it would come through service and and it would be great and you'd want this service

00:14:41.180 both of those i remember a time within the last 10 years people were saying oh looks like huxley was

00:14:49.560 right orwell was wrong no they were both right one 1984 fits the east huxley applies to us in the west

00:15:04.400 the best of the glenn beck program

00:15:08.820 hey it's glenn and if you like what you hear on the program you should check out pat gray unleashed

00:15:20.440 his podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast welcome to the program fellow

00:15:27.640 blaze co-worker uh eric boling who is heard on the blaze yeah do we get minimum wage have they

00:15:35.320 raised the minimum wage yet glenn no they haven't told me that i'm no i'm i'm a long way from making

00:15:42.340 a uh 15 an hour and that's why i'm voting for uh bernie sanders um so uh you met yesterday with

00:15:50.340 the vice president tell me about it so um yeah real interesting there's a faith and freedom conference

00:15:56.700 um i guess a fundraiser that jeff duncan was putting on in south carolina and uh i had the

00:16:03.020 opportunity they said you want to you want a little exclusive one-on-one with the vice president i said

00:16:06.700 absolutely i drove i live in charleston now so i drove out to greenville and um i got a few i got

00:16:12.860 like 12 minutes with the vice president one-on-one exclusive and it was fantastic because you know i'm

00:16:20.060 driving up there and i'm thinking i i there's so much going on right now there's so much going on in

00:16:26.060 the trump world do i do this um how how how much you know as you know glenn you get someone that

00:16:32.880 you've who's doing kind of you know reaching out you're doing your favor doing a one-on-one

00:16:38.620 exclusive how hard do you press the gas i said you know what there's too much happening right now i

00:16:43.280 got to go full throttle and i did i asked them the important stuff i asked them what's what's the

00:16:48.200 stuff with nikki haley you know the ambassador tweeting that calm down everyone we're we're good

00:16:53.820 friends with with the vice president i said yeah yes and point blank is nikki haley vying to be the

00:17:00.540 vice president in 2020 you know and then i said has the president told you you are his running mate

00:17:07.920 in 2020 i mean those are questions i think he wasn't expecting me to ask yeah but i will tell you this

00:17:14.480 because i floated the theory uh among friends um uh at the white house and i have said you know i have

00:17:23.100 nothing against mike pence i really like mike pence and i think mike pence was a uh one of the reasons

00:17:29.440 why donald trump was elected because he was able to galvanize the religious right um and and make

00:17:36.960 people feel comfortable with uh with donald trump however uh i think having nikki haley on the ticket

00:17:45.100 with donald trump with no offense to mike pence uh i think would be very advantageous for the

00:17:53.140 president uh this time around yeah i agree i think he uh he couldn't lose with either one um i think

00:18:00.720 you're probably right that maybe you know you check another box with with nikki haley the you know

00:18:05.940 trump you know let's be honest he's i believe he's going to win with a wider margin than last time but a

00:18:11.600 lot of it's going to come down to the suburbs and and you know the female vote and nikki haley

00:18:15.480 would certainly uh firm up that but i did you either way i think it's an easier ride with with a

00:18:21.040 with a female vice president i know that i i mean i know when you have 12 minutes you probably have

00:18:25.760 four questions maybe if the person wants to wants to talk um did you get into the economy at all and

00:18:34.480 the trade war is are they do you get the sense that they are very well aware that if the economy turns

00:18:42.340 this president's going to have a real uphill battle yeah so so yes and that that's where i started

00:18:48.960 because you know like i had said at the time the president was flying back from the g7 and i said

00:18:54.440 that we were in the midst of a trade war in china we've had conflicting comments coming out one from

00:18:59.420 the president one from stephanie grisham is comms director another one from the president again i said

00:19:04.400 look are we are we prepared the president said he's prepared to continue to raise tariffs on china

00:19:10.060 infineum if they don't if they don't relent and play ball and he says we are and i said well i said

00:19:15.960 miss oh you know in all honesty mr vice president i'm i'm against tariffs and i love a lot of things

00:19:22.900 that you guys are doing but tariffs is not one of the things i like i said but it seems to be working

00:19:27.720 i said is this is this president trump's idea or is this steve mnuchin talking in his ear

00:19:32.980 with larry kudlow in the other ear you know playing hardball with china was just coming from

00:19:36.860 the president he said he laughed he said eric as you know and i've known the president for 15 years

00:19:42.600 as you know the president for a long time he has a lot of smart people around him but he everything

00:19:47.860 he does just comes directly from the president so he did he weighed in on that and he's ready to play

00:19:52.500 hardball with china but i also said well in that case can i ask you this what's this idea about

00:19:57.080 nuking hurricanes and he he laughed again he said oh you know that that that didn't happen

00:20:05.680 all right all right so when does this uh interview air we're gonna put it up live tonight um they

00:20:12.860 tell me it's gonna be up around 7 p.m on the on the blaze uh platform like usual you know my show

00:20:19.020 usually comes out around 7 p.m on tuesday wednesday thursday so that will come out tonight you

00:20:23.540 know it was it's really fascinating because i got into somebody i asked him what's what's the

00:20:27.700 what's the greenland uh idea what's that all about he really explained it in a way that i hadn't ever

00:20:34.400 thought of like it became you know when i went into it thinking you know trump sees it as a you know a

00:20:41.760 really you know high profile real estate buy and and maybe some sort of you know what was the

00:20:49.060 motivation i went through it as a security as a financial yeah um and he really broke it down and

00:20:55.300 it made a ton of yeah i mean donald trump the press has made fun of donald trump on this one nobody

00:21:00.940 should we've had three or four presidents that have wanted to buy greenland and it is always uh

00:21:07.060 gone sideways but it actually is a very wise move if somebody could get it done eric we'll watch for

00:21:13.720 that tonight only on blaze tv if you are not a subscriber please subscribe and support the

00:21:21.080 talent that is trying to find the answers for you um you know we we are a good solid team and uh and

00:21:29.820 voices that are across the spectrum of the conservative movement but we are all doing our

00:21:36.100 very best to get you the truth eric does america you can't spell america without eric in the middle

00:21:42.480 uh that's tonight you don't want to miss it it'll be downloaded around 7 p.m subscribe to the blaze

00:21:49.220 now thanks eric

00:21:50.780 this is the best of the glenn beck program

00:21:56.020 we go to uh craig strasiri who is um uh the cmo with prager university

00:22:12.000 prager uh has been going through trouble with google they are they are starting their lawsuit

00:22:19.900 against google today ninth circuit court i thought it was the supreme court but it's not there yet

00:22:24.640 it's ninth circuit court which is a crazy courtroom welcome craig how are you i'm great thank you

00:22:32.240 glenn thank you for having me sure so as you're getting ready to go in and and and present the oral

00:22:37.180 arguments tell me tell the listeners first exactly what you are you're fighting

00:22:43.140 yeah so google and youtube as you know they are a giant corporation that has a lot of power and

00:22:50.400 control and can control what people see and so over the past few years uh the problem has only

00:22:55.440 continued to get worse and so there are now over 200 prager videos that are being restricted and get

00:23:01.160 this glenn five of the videos that dennis prager does on the ten commandments are being restricted so

00:23:05.780 they don't even hide their bias at this point it's it's uh really unfortunate so our case uh our case

00:23:11.780 is really centered around this argument about a public forum the distinction between a public forum

00:23:16.240 and a publisher and so a public forum which could be a physical location or it could be a website

00:23:22.360 is a place where the business invites someone to come on excuse me sorry the business invites the

00:23:29.680 public to come and use their platform for speech so youtube says anyone can come on here and give us

00:23:35.180 their opinion but then they turn around and censor us for their political viewpoint so uh that's the

00:23:40.280 basis of our of our lawsuit what do you think the odds are of winning because this this doesn't just

00:23:46.140 affect you that affects really anybody who is being uh shadow banned uh and it is in my opinion

00:23:53.140 critical that you win this if you lose this uh and i'm guessing you will in the ninth circuit court of

00:24:00.500 appeals because they're insane um but if if you do lose this this is a very bad blow to freedom of

00:24:09.400 speech these corporations will have no restrictions uh on on any of their behavior

00:24:16.200 no that's right that's exactly right and the ninth circuit is crazy and and if we lose it we're in big

00:24:22.780 trouble it's getting more and more scary and if they have the power to to control what people see and

00:24:28.120 just restrict content that they disagree with uh then this is this is really scary and most of america

00:24:33.500 doesn't even know this is going on because the mainstream media has completely ignored this issue

00:24:37.060 well they're they're doing things like for instance they they are banning uh prager university

00:24:43.140 um as you said 200 different videos dennis is the best voice ever on the ten commandments i mean

00:24:52.020 his books on you know his books on the old testament and his his uh his videos on the ten commandments

00:24:59.020 there's just nobody even close to him there's nothing uh that is you know political partisan

00:25:06.160 that is going on with that this is just an anti-religious uh bias that they have

00:25:12.780 yeah exactly i mean it clearly shows that they're targeting us for our identity and

00:25:18.780 uh i'm sure your your listeners may be aware that project veritas just had a couple google

00:25:23.900 whistleblowers come out you know one of them mentioned that you guys you and your show is

00:25:27.780 on a blacklist but they've also mentioned that prager you has been targeted their own employees

00:25:31.980 are coming out and admitting that they're targeting conservatives and like you said dennis's message

00:25:36.420 and the ten commandments are so mainstream uh that it's really getting to be absurd at this point

00:25:41.220 their own employees are admitting it yet they they continue to go in front of congress and they

00:25:45.120 continue to say that they're politically neutral which is which is obviously a lie so what is your

00:25:50.220 what is your attack i mean what is the you know you're going up against google has who has more

00:25:55.840 money and power than god at this point um what is your strategy well this is a classic case of david

00:26:04.040 and goliath and one one reason i'm really proud to work and represent prager you is that we're fighters

00:26:09.120 dennis always says that courage uh with our goodness without courage is useless so we're

00:26:14.440 very courageous at prager you and we're we're really fighting for freedom of speech not just

00:26:17.940 for prager you but for all americans so uh this is a very important case and there's going to be a

00:26:22.680 lot of supporters there today at the courthouse for prager you which is very exciting a lot of

00:26:26.620 people recognize how important this case is and so uh yes the ninth circuit is crazy but we're

00:26:31.520 going to take this as far and as long as we need to all the way up to the supreme court uh to keep

00:26:36.180 fighting well the good news is if you're um turned down by the ninth circuit court they are the most

00:26:41.860 overturned court in the country i mean if they say if they say the sky is blue i'll swear to you that

00:26:48.120 it's red because they're wrong almost every time that is true yeah all right craig best of luck uh

00:26:55.540 anything that we can do to help yes i would encourage your listeners to please go to prageru.com we have a

00:27:01.480 petition against you two that 600 000 people have already signed um if they're so willing and

00:27:06.280 generous that we are a non-profit and any donation will help us keep spreading public awareness on

00:27:10.580 this issue um so we got to keep fighting and i appreciate you having me on you bet thanks craig

00:27:15.160 appreciate it you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program

00:27:23.460 rob henderson writes in the new york post a former classmate from yale recently told me that monogamy

00:27:40.260 is kind of outdated not good for society so i asked her what her background is and if she planned on

00:27:46.200 marrying she said she comes from an affluent family works at a well-known technology company and

00:27:52.100 yes she personally intends to have a monogamous marriage but quickly added that marriage shouldn't

00:27:57.040 have to be for everyone but she was raised by a traditional family she planned on having a

00:28:02.360 traditional family but she maintained that traditional families are old-fashioned and society

00:28:07.440 should evolve beyond them i asked myself what could explain this welcome to the program rob henderson how

00:28:15.240 are you sir good glenn thanks for having me you bet i i really enjoyed your article um

00:28:21.780 what explains that and why is it a problem yeah well you know glenn i study social psychology and

00:28:30.940 how people are influenced by others as a phd student at cambridge and you know based on a lot of research

00:28:36.340 it seems that social status is a key driver in how people think and how how we behave and in fact you

00:28:43.240 know a lot of this research shows that you know respect and admiration from our peers contributes more to

00:28:48.580 our sense of well-being than even how much money we make and so this is sort of how i came up with

00:28:52.680 the idea of luxury beliefs and so this we experience this sort of pleasure to or pressure

00:28:58.120 to display our status in new ways and you know one way we do this is by displaying you know sort of our

00:29:05.640 prestige our intelligence our education and you know we do this by coming up with sort of clever and

00:29:10.920 bizarre arguments you know and so one concern that i have is that you know the beliefs of the upper class

00:29:17.020 you know they they continue to to change and update as people below them adopt these beliefs and so

00:29:23.240 their beliefs the upper class beliefs become more wild and more exotic and further distance themselves

00:29:27.720 from ordinary people they're sort of constantly updating their belief wardrobe so what is what is

00:29:34.260 is causing them to do that um and and because in the old days if you were rich you might have lived a

00:29:43.840 different lifestyle like the vanderbilts lived a different lifestyle but they didn't want to be known as

00:29:50.960 as um denigrating or or um tearing apart everyone else they wanted to be seen as the average

00:30:00.340 decent american what's happened yeah well i think uh you know two things might be going on one

00:30:07.960 is that um so sort of luxury goods and and having you know uh fancy uh items it's just these goods are

00:30:16.040 becoming more affordable so everyone can uh purchase them and another is that um it's it's maybe not so

00:30:24.300 cool to display your wealth with with material goods anymore um i think a lot of people maybe think

00:30:29.840 it's uh sort of tacky or it's sort of um makes people feel bad you know if i get to afford this

00:30:35.920 item but you don't get to have it and so both of those things simultaneously make material goods not

00:30:40.660 so appealing so a new way that the upper class can display their status is to have these sort of

00:30:47.220 unusual and in some cases even bizarre beliefs um and you know in many cases they hold these beliefs

00:30:54.480 um with good intentions they think that they're maybe doing the right thing but i think alongside

00:31:00.800 that maybe more kind-hearted motive is also this motive to sort of display their social class

00:31:07.400 so give me a give me some examples of luxury beliefs

00:31:12.160 sure so one belief that i talk about in the new york post article is the belief that all family

00:31:19.780 structures are equal there's this sort of non-judgmental attitude that a lot of you know

00:31:24.160 educated people have um you know whether you're single parent or step parent or have a you know

00:31:29.380 polyamorous sort of situation with the parents um you know they're all equal but you know the actual

00:31:35.960 empirical evidence is clear that families with two married parents are you know the safest and most

00:31:41.120 beneficial for young children and you know often it's it's members of the upper class who you know as

00:31:46.560 you as you noted uh reading the article there that grew up with two married parents and you know

00:31:51.260 somehow these are the sort of you know on the uh of the belief that you know monogamy is outdated or

00:31:57.500 that you know marriage is some kind of uh you know an oppressive structure or that you know all families

00:32:02.600 are exactly the same um and i think this relaxed attitude about monogamy and marriage it trickles down

00:32:09.260 to the working class and the poor and you know as you said you know marriage between or marriage rates

00:32:13.780 between the upper class and lower class americans were actually quite similar uh in the 1960s because

00:32:19.640 there were strong social norms in place um and then affluent americans during that time started

00:32:25.960 expressing more skepticism about marriage and monogamy and this sort of trickled down to the lower classes

00:32:32.580 and eroded the social norms for for those people but for the upper classes um marriage rates actually

00:32:38.780 remained roughly steady such that they're basically getting married at the same rates today

00:32:42.540 so why the disconnect why the people preaching it they say this do they not believe it

00:32:51.640 you know that's an interesting question about belief um i think that they many of them probably do

00:32:58.220 believe it on some level but i'm also not entirely sure how much belief actually matters i think that

00:33:04.700 this drive for social status is so strong that people can kind of convince themselves of you know

00:33:10.820 strange beliefs if it gives them the sort of respect and the admiration of their peers you know if it's

00:33:16.240 trendy and cool in the moment uh in one social group to say that you know polyamory is is is fine

00:33:23.200 then people will just say that because they don't want to risk being ostracized and outcast by

00:33:27.980 you know their peers so so help me out on on one thing how did it become a uh a luxury um

00:33:37.880 to have some of these beliefs for instance all families are equal that really started at least

00:33:45.000 the way i i see it either one of two ways um it either started as a you know deconstruction kind

00:33:52.760 of post-modernism plan uh and was planted to to destroy our society or it came from a place to where

00:34:02.980 nobody wants to nobody wants to harm or say things that makes the single mom uh you know or the mixed

00:34:11.600 family feel bad um and so you're like no you know you have a good you have a good marriage and you have

00:34:19.080 a you know or you have a good family and your family is mixed and so that's fine whatever but we

00:34:24.960 we can't seem to find it within ourselves to actually go the extra step and say nothing to do

00:34:33.820 with you but if there is a choice it's best that the family stays together i know this first i'm a

00:34:42.220 divorced guy and from my first marriage i have two children it would have been a lot better for them

00:34:49.520 if mom and dad were still together their life dramatically changed their scars and everything

00:34:55.260 else which is normal that doesn't make me a bad guy or you know or mom a bad guy a bad person it's just

00:35:03.220 that happens sometimes but we should be able to say yeah but that's the goal to get here how come we

00:35:12.160 don't say that how come that how come why is that gone yeah well i mean uh i think the the first

00:35:21.340 reason you you posited there about you know sort of post-modern deconstruction i think that that's

00:35:27.880 that's an example of sort of displaying one's intelligence and education you know you can only

00:35:33.380 learn an idea like that in an elite university or or a college right i mean you know ordinary people

00:35:39.200 um aren't spending their days reading about you know derrida or foucault or something like that

00:35:44.540 right um and and i think the second reason you said you know this this idea of like you know we

00:35:49.080 don't want to we don't want to make people feel bad um we don't want to judge people um yeah i think

00:35:55.480 there's this you know belief that you know they're they're downtrodden and we shouldn't make others feel

00:35:59.280 bad and we shouldn't um you know sort of elevate ourselves above them um by telling them that certain

00:36:05.240 certain behaviors lead to better outcomes than others um so yeah i think on the one hand it makes

00:36:09.780 us feel good to have these you know sort of fancy beliefs about post-modernism and then we also don't

00:36:15.560 want to make others feel bad about their lifestyle choices and a luxury belief would be um the one that

00:36:24.080 uh maybe comes from you understanding post-modernism and understanding uh or is it just at the level

00:36:32.580 of i just don't want to be ostracized and this is what my peers are saying because they went to

00:36:39.280 college and were indoctrinated with this crap i think both of those are are you know sort of key

00:36:45.560 components of of luxury beliefs and you know the way that luxury beliefs impose costs on others you know

00:36:52.960 first you know they're the expression of luxury beliefs require you know learning that sort of

00:36:57.800 complicated vocabulary and then you know on the other hand uh the luxury belief of it doesn't

00:37:04.420 matter you know things are exactly the same i don't want to judge and yeah i think that there's a

00:37:09.520 there's sort of both of those components at work here um so that the outcome is that the person

00:37:16.960 expressing this belief is raising their status while also you know intentionally or not creating harm for

00:37:22.980 for people below them you you point something out that i think is so good in this you talk about the

00:37:29.000 um uh religion is irrational or harmful members of the upper class are likely to be atheist or

00:37:36.080 non-religious uh but they have resources and access to thrive without a unifying social edifice of

00:37:42.120 religion um tell me why the upper class is different than the lower class in this you've talked about it

00:37:51.740 yeah i mean yeah a lot of members of the upper class seem to have a sort of passe attitude towards

00:37:59.060 religion that you know they're they're non-religious or you know atheist or agnostic and they sort of

00:38:04.380 approach religion from an intellectual standpoint um but they also have you know in their own lives

00:38:11.560 the upper classes tend to have resources and social connections to to thrive um without having to rely

00:38:19.600 rely on their neighbors or their community you know the sort of people who who are around them and i

00:38:26.920 think religion sort of provides that like unifying social edifice um so that people can come together

00:38:32.680 and have a reason to to care for one another um and i i think that yeah denigrating the importance of

00:38:38.780 religion doesn't really harm the rich very much i think it harms the poor you know lack of religion can

00:38:44.300 give rise to sort of meaninglessness and feelings of despair well whereas the rich they already have

00:38:49.560 those resources they already have the access and oftentimes they find their meaning through you know

00:38:54.860 traveling the world or through unusual hobbies or or even their work as you point out even their

00:39:01.160 profession they might have a profession but most people have a job and there's a huge difference right

00:39:07.140 um yeah exactly most i i only have about uh 40 seconds left can you can you just tell me where are we

00:39:15.560 in this trend i mean you know fashion clothing goes out of style are we at the beginning of this middle of

00:39:24.060 this where are we yeah so it's interesting i think that um one one sign uh that we may be shifting

00:39:34.420 trends here is the popularity of this article in of itself um you know i think that a lot of the

00:39:39.820 things that i point out in that article used to be known as sort of conventional wisdom you know

00:39:44.240 like a two-parent family is good for kids correct um not sure when that became you know sort of

00:39:50.460 an edgy thing to say but a lot of people now seem to uh resonate with it and agree with it and i think

00:39:56.800 we may be slowly turning the tide such that a lot of people are coming around back to

00:40:01.420 um these more you know sort of typical conventional beliefs they don't feel the need to you know sort

00:40:08.000 of jump on the bandwagon for the for the latest you know bizarre luxury belief i hope that you are

00:40:13.880 right uh rob henderson thank you so much i appreciate it this is the best of the glenbeck program

00:40:21.760 hey it's glen and i want to tell you about something that you should either end your day with

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00:41:03.440 and now the executive vice president at the hill his name is john solomon he is somebody who actually

00:41:10.380 is looking for the truth and i appreciate uh his work and his willingness to come on the um on the

00:41:17.740 program welcome john how are you ah good good to be with you glenn yeah so uh tell me i i want to i

00:41:25.500 want to talk to you about a couple of things first of all the fbi seems to be investigating the clintons

00:41:32.900 again well uh that is a good question the fbi should be investigating the clintons again based on

00:41:40.140 the fact that uh there was a discovery of some highly classified evidence that the fbi never examined as

00:41:46.280 part of its clinton email server investigation it's remarkable we're three years uh past the

00:41:52.460 close of that investigation that's a very controversial closed down case james comey

00:41:56.300 remember all the things that went on with that oh yeah uh we now we learned three years later that

00:42:00.960 there was this highly classified pile of documents very important information information that the

00:42:06.540 agents working the case themselves said was going to be important to look at before they made a

00:42:11.980 determination on hillary clinton's culpability and they never looked at it they looked the other way

00:42:16.860 somebody wouldn't allow them to look at that evidence and so three years later thanks to some

00:42:21.440 letters between senator grassley senators grassley and johnson and the inspector general of the

00:42:26.960 justice department michael horowitz we learned of the existence of these documents and the fact that

00:42:31.700 the fbi never looked at them and and what's frustrating is those senators can't get an answer from the

00:42:36.960 justice department and fbi it's the bar trump justice department has not answered these senators

00:42:41.520 about whether they're going to take a look at this evidence why do you suppose that's happening

00:42:45.840 it's a remarkable thing the inertia inside bureaucracy right and so uh there is something in these

00:42:52.620 documents that must be remarkably sensitive and perhaps may may cause pressure or questions to reopen

00:42:57.840 the case and uh it does not appear the fbi wants to go down that path but uh it isn't fair to us in

00:43:04.420 america and it is an equal justice system if you don't complete the job you started we gave mrs clinton

00:43:10.100 a pass during the 2016 election even though there was broad evidence that she transmitted highly

00:43:15.380 classified information on a private server she did not get prosecuted then and we find out that a key

00:43:21.480 piece of evidence wasn't examined that always makes us suspicious in the american public so john it's not

00:43:26.960 i'm not as concerned about the investigation in the clintons because i think i know what you know i think i

00:43:32.980 know what they are i am really concerned that we should be investigating the entire justice department

00:43:41.860 um i don't think that everybody in the fbi is dirty i don't think everybody in the justice department is

00:43:47.680 dirty but there are people apparently that are dirty and will move things for political reasons and that

00:43:56.260 is that's not america once we lose trust in our justice system we become you know mexico or haiti or

00:44:05.060 whatever right no it's so integral and we always expect that whether you're democrat or republican white

00:44:12.540 or black uh live in connecticut or live in florida we're all going to be treated the same when the justice

00:44:18.740 department looks at us and over the last few years we've seen a really strong body evidence that people

00:44:24.320 got treated differently based on their political connections or their political affiliation

00:44:28.300 and that troubles the everyday american i go out when i'm out and about traveling in the real world

00:44:32.780 people come up to you and say you know it feels like there's two justice systems one today for the

00:44:36.600 democrats and hillary clinton and the other for republicans and everyday common man and i think

00:44:41.140 that perception is deeply troubling and and and and really cuts at the roots of our our great democracy

00:44:48.320 and i think bill barr has an enormous opportunity to fix this justice department put the people that

00:44:54.020 are so good in it they're 99 of them are amazing agents and investigators and lawyers get the one

00:44:59.800 percent out and get this house put back in order so that we can trust the uh the legal system do you

00:45:04.700 believe bill barr is that guy i think he is he certainly has uh the credentials to do it he has shown

00:45:11.920 early on in the russia investigation to talk candidly and honestly and not use the euphemisms in the

00:45:17.020 bureaucratic blarney that we heard earlier people using that job uh the real question will come down

00:45:23.240 to will he really identify the faults will he really punish people will there be real criminal

00:45:28.040 prosecution and uh the next three months are our telling point we're going to learn from the

00:45:33.780 inspector general just how bad the russia fisa was we're going to learn from john derm just how much

00:45:39.320 spying went on on a political campaign and then it will be in bill barr's corner to decide how who does

00:45:45.320 he punish how does he punish them how does he fix this how does he make sure this never happens to

00:45:49.960 another presidential candidate or another american ever again what does your gut tell you my gut tells

00:45:57.400 me there will be a lot of shaming there will be a really honest accounting like we got after 9-11 if

00:46:02.300 you remember all the mistakes that the fbi made failing to connect the dots before 9-11 there'll be a

00:46:07.800 lot of shaming a lot of honest discussion about what was wrong no more of these euphemisms and spin

00:46:13.020 jobs that we've gotten from the justice department and fbi i think the threshold for prosecuting a

00:46:18.580 former fbi agent or an fbi justice department official is very high in this because of the

00:46:24.700 natural inertia in the justice department i don't think that's right but i do think that it exists

00:46:29.540 uh and we'll we'll find out uh you know whether the justice department is serious if they they carry

00:46:35.880 out some prosecutions we know for 15 months now andy mccabe has been sitting there identified having

00:46:42.020 conduct uh created or committed criminality uh clearly lied just like we accused mike flynn just

00:46:48.400 like we've accused papadopoulos and in 15 months he hasn't been uh charged despite two trump attorney

00:46:53.980 generals so when you look at that case you have to wonder are they going to do it now the statute of

00:46:58.960 limitations is coming up on that and it's going to be judgment time pretty soon if andy mccabe gets

00:47:03.800 indicted for lying just like the other people in the russia case did then i think people will feel

00:47:08.200 feel justice is done if he walks this continuing question of two justice departments or two systems

00:47:13.820 of justice is going to persist and i don't think it's just one for the republicans and one for the

00:47:19.900 that's right for the democrats i think it is one for the privileged and then for the rest of everybody

00:47:25.620 else um that's a very good point um john talk to me about the article that you wrote uh a few days ago

00:47:33.120 the 10 declassified russian collusion revelations that could rock washington this fall yep so uh behind

00:47:40.940 the scenes there's been an apparatus that the president has been building hasn't unveiled it

00:47:44.780 yet but it's going to be a special office that's going to declassify and give us true visibility into

00:47:49.900 what really went on in the russia case from from the beginning origins all the way back to march when

00:47:54.460 george papadopoulos first met with an academic in rome all the way through the uh end of the

00:48:00.340 muller report okay hold on hold on hold on hold on sure is this a real office or is this a political

00:48:06.840 office this is a real office okay going to be empowered with the power of the presidency

00:48:11.520 and uh it's going to fulfill the very public statement that donald trump made that he was

00:48:17.360 going to declassify this information i think a lot of people thought when he gave the declassification

00:48:22.220 authority to bar that bar was going to do this sort of public relations declassification explain all

00:48:27.380 the documents he gave that the power to bar so that he could do his investigation if the cia fbi

00:48:32.420 didn't want to give up something he had the power to go get it declassified and look at it or share

00:48:36.700 it with prosecutors and fbi agents working on the case but for the public the president has always had

00:48:41.880 a a different idea in mind somebody that could tell a story explain it all in layman's terms help

00:48:47.160 us understand what happens so it never happens again that office is being set up and i would begin

00:48:52.120 to i believe that in mid-september forward we're going to see the documents be declassified that

00:48:57.360 we've been waiting for for more than two years i picked my 10 favorite that i know from all the

00:49:01.720 investigators i've talked to are the most transformational and uh and they they range from

00:49:07.160 statements that george papadopoulos and carter page made to fbi informants or on tape uh where they

00:49:13.860 were clearly expressing their innocence and that was not provided to the fisa court to uh you know really

00:49:19.520 basic information like what was in the fisa and what was excluded in the fisa we still don't know

00:49:24.320 what was in all those redacted pages there is a significant amount of very important information

00:49:29.580 that will really uh rankle washington in the fall when these documents uh get get public i'll give you

00:49:36.360 one fun one because it just teases the the imagination uh the house investigators that did the house

00:49:43.260 intelligence review they had 53 interviews of really key people most of the main players in the

00:49:47.900 investigation there's a revelation in one of those interviews that the democratic national

00:49:52.180 committee was in touch with the cia and you have to ask yourself the cia has no responsibility on

00:49:57.600 domestic soil the dnc is a political organization why were these two organizations talking and i think

00:50:03.400 when we get that answer we'll see just how big a dirty political trick the russia probe really was

00:50:08.420 holy cow all right um one more question i had somebody um a very well-known big business person

00:50:17.520 who wrote to me and said glenn patrick byrne is out of his mind insane uh and i know patrick he is

00:50:25.460 he is different he thinks differently he's a libertarian um but i don't think he's dishonest

00:50:32.540 uh have you looked into this stuff with patrick are you heard anymore what do you think

00:50:37.840 i have done a lot of reporting over the weekend after his cnn interview so what i've learned is that

00:50:43.100 the original material that my my old colleague sarah carter fantastic journalist one of the best in

00:50:48.120 the country reported early on about patrick byrne is spot on those are accurate uh facts and and that

00:50:54.960 her storyline is the accurate storyline of what byrne did and didn't do with the fbi and what was going

00:50:59.460 on there was some soft operation going on now how much he initiated it versus the fbi controlled him

00:51:05.860 is in dispute but i believe the justice department lawyers who interviewed burn a few months back found

00:51:11.780 him credible and that his timeline matched the other timelines of things that they're finding in

00:51:16.600 the ongoing investigation i think his more recent comments what i've been told by people who are in

00:51:21.480 the know of the evidence his more recent comments spinning a more elaborate conspiracy of multiple

00:51:26.940 people and the fbi controlling him i don't think those are going to pan out with the facts but i do

00:51:32.040 believe there was contact and exchange of information and the fbi might have been using him as a soft way

00:51:37.900 of probing this trump russia uh collusion theory which of course has fallen apart uh very clearly

00:51:44.000 before our eyes but i think it's those are the sort of revelations we're going to get in these

00:51:48.380 documents in the fall there were multiple efforts to probe monitor spy on the trump campaign and we

00:51:54.020 don't know them all we think we do but we don't i don't think we know 70 of what really went on in

00:51:58.940 this investigation yet this fall will be that opportunity for accounting boy oh boy i mean if

00:52:04.240 there's real if if people are actually looking for the truth and it is half of what i think it might be

00:52:11.800 uh we have a we have a a government or a justice department that is really out of control not all of them

00:52:20.640 just some there's a strain in there that is really out of control i agree i i talked to this senior

00:52:28.360 justice department official who has been in the game non-partisan been in the job 20 30 years and

00:52:33.460 he said things that he's seen have shocked his conscience and he said i thought i saw everything

00:52:37.760 in my 30 years i think people are beginning to realize that this was a political operation conducted

00:52:43.400 under the authority of the u.s intelligence community that's something we never envisioned as america

00:52:48.360 would happen and we have to expose it get it out there punish the bad guys and then it won't happen

00:52:53.940 again i think i think that's the the right recipe for solving what happened here i think so too but i

00:52:58.860 have i'm a different man than i was 20 years ago i wonder i wonder if anyone really will be punished

00:53:05.700 they have the same concern we'll have to wait and see yeah i think that's a real legitimate concern

00:53:10.920 john solomon thank you so much executive vice president of the hill thank you you bet bye-bye

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