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00:00:33.520 You can hear me. I don't know if you can hear Stu.

00:00:36.320 Because we've had all kinds of technical problems on today's podcast, but you'd never know it if we didn't tell you.

00:00:44.020 There was a good portion of the show. I couldn't hear anything.

00:00:48.340 But we took you through all the sound clips and everything else from last night at the convention.

00:00:54.320 It was extraordinary to see Donald Trump and the change and the difference.

00:00:59.440 It's as if the, I don't know, we've started to write a new chapter of America and the Republican Party,

00:01:08.620 especially with the new vice president, J.D. Vance, his nomination.

00:01:13.000 We have all of that.

00:01:14.160 Plus, we talk about Project 2025, what it is, what it's not.

00:01:18.600 We had Eric Prince on to talk about what was happening with the Secret Service.

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00:03:14.480 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:03:17.040 Well, the convention started last night and something unusual happened.

00:03:24.260 Donald Trump appeared at the convention.

00:03:26.820 That's something that usually does not happen on the first night.

00:03:31.360 But Donald Trump was anxious to get there.

00:03:34.360 And he walked in about halfway through.

00:03:37.200 I think it was probably 10 o'clock Eastern, 1030 Eastern.

00:03:42.100 And he was different.

00:03:45.720 He was different.

00:03:46.920 I don't know how to describe it.

00:03:48.360 Don Jr.

00:03:48.920 had tears in his eyes.

00:03:51.280 I think probably a lot of people did.

00:03:53.360 And I saw a softer man.

00:03:57.600 For the first time, I saw, I don't know how to describe it, maybe somebody who went,

00:04:05.300 I shouldn't be here.

00:04:07.040 I was not supposed to be here.

00:04:10.540 And here I am.

00:04:13.040 And I think it was a humbling moment.

00:04:19.260 And I'm anxious to see what Donald Trump has to say.

00:04:24.540 He walked in.

00:04:26.060 People are making fun of him for walking in with a big bandage on his ear.

00:04:30.520 Well, he lost part of his ear.

00:04:32.480 I mean, this is such a miracle.

00:04:38.200 There was a five-mile-an-hour wind.

00:04:40.500 And just that and him turning his head made all the difference in that.

00:04:46.740 Remarkable.

00:04:47.960 Now, when he walked out, people were chanting at the convention.

00:04:52.980 Here's that sound.

00:04:54.700 Cut seven.

00:04:58.040 Fire!

00:04:58.960 Fire!

00:04:59.800 Fire!

00:05:00.680 Fire!

00:05:01.660 Fire!

00:05:02.480 So now, let me put this into context.

00:05:17.600 Because you will hear people say,

00:05:19.520 They were screaming, fight, fight, fight.

00:05:22.880 Yeah, they were.

00:05:24.520 They were.

00:05:25.680 For a couple of reasons.

00:05:27.480 First of all, in something that I thought was one of the most heroic things

00:05:31.660 I have seen from a president in a very long time.

00:05:37.040 President Trump, unlike I think I would be, stood up after being shot in the head.

00:05:46.740 He's disoriented.

00:05:49.440 You can see that he's kind of had the wind knocked out of him from the dogpile of the Secret Service.

00:05:54.580 He's standing up, and he makes a point.

00:05:58.060 You can hear him on the tape saying, wait, wait, wait a minute.

00:06:02.520 And he's telling the Secret Service to stop brushing him off of the stage so he can let the people know that he's okay.

00:06:10.340 And he raises his fist, and he says, fight, fight, fight, fight.

00:06:17.460 That is a hero moment.

00:06:21.300 No matter what you think about Donald Trump, I'm sorry.

00:06:25.340 That is just stirring to see somebody who, for political reasons, they tried to kill, they hid him, and he still stands up.

00:06:37.860 The reason why people admire Donald Trump is that they have put him through everything.

00:06:47.560 They tried to bankrupt him.

00:06:49.060 They tried to call him all kinds of names.

00:06:51.900 They've tried to destroy his business.

00:06:53.660 Then they tried to put him in jail.

00:06:55.960 They've done everything.

00:06:57.980 Impeachment.

00:06:58.780 Two separate times. 0.83

00:07:01.880 They smeared him and his family, and now they tried to kill him.

00:07:06.540 And the guy is not stopping.

00:07:10.240 Why? 0.99

00:07:12.180 Well, either he's a psycho that just loves pain and destruction,

00:07:21.040 which he doesn't, or he actually believes in something that's worth fighting for.

00:07:29.840 And what is that?

00:07:32.060 Donald Trump doesn't believe in the global government.

00:07:36.760 He doesn't believe in the global economy, the way it's being fashioned now, in much more of a fascistic way, with public-private partnerships.

00:07:50.980 You know, you play ball with us, and then you'll be able to take over and crush your competitors and everything else because we'll protect you.

00:08:00.820 But you need to play ball the right way.

00:08:03.860 We're going to change capitalism.

00:08:06.040 That's what's happening.

00:08:07.580 There is a new economic system that has already been introduced.

00:08:12.760 And that economic system, part of it, is called modern monetary theory.

00:08:20.880 I talk about it in my book, The Great Reset, and again, in the follow-up book.

00:08:26.400 The modern monetary theory, six years ago, was insane.

00:08:31.900 Basically, what it says is, we don't have to have the tax revenue to pay these bills.

00:08:37.680 We can just print as much money as we want.

00:08:42.340 Well, that's what they're doing.

00:08:44.220 Well, that's what they did in Germany, in the Weimar Republic.

00:08:47.060 We know, because math remains math, there is something as an absolute truth, and the closest we can get to it is mathematics.

00:08:57.780 It doesn't work.

00:08:59.780 But that's just to bring the United States, in my opinion, to bring the United States down to everybody else's level. 0.69

00:09:08.120 For 40 years, we tried to bring the world up, and it worked.

00:09:13.060 Not universally and not everywhere, but wherever it was truly tried and tried without corruption, it did improve the lives of people.

00:09:23.680 Capitalism works.

00:09:24.940 Well, the Chinese thought of this new idea of fascism, bringing the state in with business. 0.95

00:09:33.680 Instead of taking businesses away from people and owning the businesses, they let people own and run the business, as long as you're in line with the state.

00:09:44.180 Well, that's what we're building now.

00:09:46.400 Donald Trump doesn't believe in that.

00:09:47.980 And in fact, the reason why they have to kill him, I believe, is because he's the only one that stands in the way of this new global government and this new global business elite.

00:10:00.180 He doesn't believe in it.

00:10:04.700 People are saying, he's saying, fight, the first words out of his mouth were fight, fight, fight.

00:10:10.440 Yes.

00:10:10.880 Isn't there anything worth fighting for?

00:10:14.620 And I don't mean with guns.

00:10:17.720 I don't mean a civil war.

00:10:22.780 Isn't there anything worth?

00:10:24.200 Are your children worth fighting for?

00:10:25.920 Of course they are.

00:10:27.880 Your children worth standing up for?

00:10:30.120 Of course they are.

00:10:30.900 Are your children worth dying for?

00:10:34.020 Yes.

00:10:35.300 Yes, they are.

00:10:37.340 Hopefully, you don't ever have to get there.

00:10:39.500 But yes, they are.

00:10:41.080 You know you would sacrifice your life for your child.

00:10:44.200 You know it.

00:10:48.080 Here's what I want you to do.

00:10:49.340 When you hear the fight, fight, fight, I want you to think, Donald Trump doesn't mean just that it's worth dying for.

00:10:58.340 Because I do believe our country and our freedom of our children and the future of our children is worth dying for.

00:11:05.660 But I don't want to get there.

00:11:07.380 I hope we don't ever get there.

00:11:09.500 Fight, stand up, because our children and our children's future is worth living for.

00:11:19.480 That's the key.

00:11:22.400 Now, yesterday, there was a really awkward interview with Lester Holt where Joe Biden is just engaging in the same lies.

00:11:36.220 And I would really like to make it very apparent by using the audio of both what Biden has been saying over and over again and the audio of what was actually said at the time.

00:11:51.300 And then you decide who is telling you the truth.

00:11:55.840 Here's Lester Holt and Joe Biden talking about Charlottesville again.

00:12:03.100 Listen.

00:12:03.380 I wasn't going to run again because I lost my son.

00:12:06.100 I didn't feel it.

00:12:08.060 And until I watched what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia, those folks coming out of the woods with torches, carrying swastikas, singing the same Nazi bio. 0.56

00:12:17.660 I was accompanied by this Ku Klux Klan and a young woman was killed and I was a bystander.

00:12:25.620 And the president, then president, was asked, what do you think?

00:12:29.740 He said, they're very fine people on both sides.

00:12:32.460 Not fine people on both sides.

00:12:33.880 No excuse.

00:12:35.520 Zero.

00:12:35.820 Zero.

00:12:36.040 Okay.

00:12:40.080 You can go to Snopes and look this up.

00:12:44.760 But I urge you to do that.

00:12:47.400 But why take the time to do that when I can just present you with the actual audio of what Trump said in 2017?

00:12:57.060 Listen.

00:12:57.320 And you had some very bad people in that group.

00:12:59.840 But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides.

00:13:06.500 You had people in that group.

00:13:07.960 Excuse me.

00:13:08.700 Excuse me.

00:13:09.360 I saw the same pictures as you did.

00:13:11.700 You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of to them a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.

00:13:22.680 And you had people, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally.

00:13:29.340 But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists.

00:13:35.200 Okay?

00:13:36.460 So now you are left with this question.

00:13:40.920 Why would President Biden continue to tell this lie?

00:13:52.820 There's one thing you can dismiss that, you know, no, no joke.

00:14:00.400 I was a truck driver.

00:14:01.580 No, he wasn't.

00:14:02.660 No, no joke.

00:14:03.640 I was a constitutional scholar for many years.

00:14:06.540 No, he wasn't.

00:14:08.200 No, no joke.

00:14:09.640 The ladies love me. 1.00

00:14:10.680 No, Joe, they don't.

00:14:12.960 Well, the children love me.

00:14:14.460 No, they don't either.

00:14:15.900 They're creeped out by you.

00:14:17.740 The one thing that you can say about Joe Biden is he always is self-aggrandizing.

00:14:24.220 And I think that's because he's really never done anything.

00:14:29.400 I mean, he was a senator, yes, but he was not the world's greatest senator by any means.

00:14:35.020 And there's lots of senators on both sides that kind of fall into this category.

00:14:38.680 And he thinks of himself as a great man.

00:14:42.460 You can take those kinds of lies and kind of feel sorry for him.

00:14:47.520 Not this one.

00:14:49.340 And these lies like this one that the left continues to tell, they are told for a reason to get you to believe something that is not true.

00:15:02.940 So if you're listening today for the first time and you're thinking anew, you're thinking, maybe I've missed something.

00:15:11.840 This is what you're missing.

00:15:14.760 I talk to people all the time who have no clue as to what is going on in the world.

00:15:21.740 They have only heard the mainstream media and the left, and they have left out facts.

00:15:29.820 Now, we can spin things any way we want, but facts are facts.

00:15:34.260 Why listen to people who constantly, knowingly, tell you something about a fact that is not true?

00:15:49.480 Don't worry.

00:15:51.560 Inflation, it's transitory.

00:15:54.580 Don't worry.

00:15:56.180 People are doing better.

00:15:57.360 Is that true?

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00:17:15.260 Now, back to the podcast.

00:17:16.720 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:17:21.800 I feel as though we turned a page.

00:17:29.300 There's a new chapter in America being written because of what happened over the weekend.

00:17:34.100 However, I would like to remind you that written assassination bump, if you can call it that, lasted only about three months.

00:17:42.480 So this will go away, especially in an election season.

00:17:47.980 So don't take anything for granted because there's a lot more of the election to go.

00:17:55.180 I think it's interesting if they don't replace Joe Biden as the candidate.

00:17:59.240 I think it will be very interesting to see because I think to me that says, why waste another candidate, a possible candidate for a losing situation?

00:18:13.700 But that is, again, wishful thinking.

00:18:16.180 The one thing we have to do is make sure that there's no more violence and nobody tries to kill the president or the former president or anybody else, RFK.

00:18:26.940 That would be horrible.

00:18:29.660 And we almost had that situation.

00:18:31.920 Now, there's some new information that is coming out.

00:18:34.300 I want to say hi to our guest, Eric Prince.

00:18:36.080 He is the host of Off Leash.

00:18:38.220 He's a retired U.S. Navy SEAL.

00:18:40.320 He's also the founder of Blackwater and a friend of the program.

00:18:44.180 How are you?

00:18:44.720 Hey, Glenn.

00:18:45.920 How are you?

00:18:46.480 Good to talk with you.

00:18:47.460 Good.

00:18:47.920 Good.

00:18:48.460 I saw you on Newsmax last night as they were talking to you from the convention.

00:18:52.520 Did you sense a difference in watching the convention that I did?

00:18:56.720 It felt joyful.

00:18:57.660 And it also, when Trump walked out, he seemed different.

00:19:03.180 What did Winston Churchill say?

00:19:08.120 There's nothing quite as exhilarating as being shot at without result.

00:19:12.100 I think that definitely affected the president.

00:19:16.460 It may be an air of humility.

00:19:21.920 And I think he realizes how severe that situation could have been.

00:19:29.120 And literally, he dodged a bullet.

00:19:32.820 The country dodged a bullet.

00:19:34.260 Because if he had been killed, I cannot imagine the second and third order effects that would be ravaging America right now if that was the case.

00:19:45.600 And we're not done yet.

00:19:47.440 I mean, you're right.

00:19:48.560 The Secret Service has been bad for a very long time.

00:19:52.880 Since Obama was in, I've been screaming about the Secret Service.

00:19:56.840 The president, all of the presidents, are in danger.

00:20:00.840 They, I mean, Eric, sometime we'll talk.

00:20:05.440 I mean, I've seen stuff from the Secret Service that scare the hell out of me in their incompetence.

00:20:10.860 But I wonder if this is just incompetence.

00:20:13.760 Let me give you a couple of stories.

00:20:15.000 New reporting today says that the shooting location was actually a police staging area and that counter snipers were inside the building.

00:20:25.680 They saw the shooter acting suspiciously.

00:20:28.400 They took a picture of him.

00:20:29.580 They watched him pull out a range finder and take measurements and then disappear.

00:20:35.440 Wouldn't the correct protocol to make sure that the president doesn't go on stage at that point until you find that guy?

00:20:43.760 There is so many breakdowns.

00:20:46.720 It is, it's mind-boggling how badly they missed.

00:20:50.700 You know that 140 yards from that location to the president's podium is effectively point-blank range with a carbine.

00:20:59.360 I mean, a 12-year-old first-time hunter could make that shot.

00:21:05.440 The fact that there was local law enforcement in the area and they weren't covering is pathetic, so bad on them, but also bad on the Secret Service to not detail one guy to make sure that local law enforcement is doing their job to cover that massive dead space.

00:21:20.420 If you stand at the podium for the people that were doing the advance work before Trump arrives, to stand at the podium and look around, it's pretty obvious to see that those industrial buildings is what they call the sniper hotel, the likely place the sniper is going to set up shop if someone's going to do something.

00:21:38.380 And apparently, they must have sent some local law enforcement there, and they didn't even thoroughly cover or walk around or patrol.

00:21:48.080 It's astounding how bad the bungling was, and we literally dodged a bullet.

00:21:55.680 So it's – the infinitesimal variation of aim to miss the president's head, his brain matter, by two inches is – the margin of error is entirely too small, and that must not ever happen again. 1.00

00:22:15.460 And that's just against a 20-year-old idiot with no real professional training. 0.98

00:22:20.920 I worry that a professional that sets up at 500 or longer yards with a bigger, proper rifle can also provide serious threat. 0.98

00:22:35.820 The fact that the Secret Service snipers, counter snipers, were apparently looking at the guy for up to a minute, and no action was taken, to include not even getting Trump behind cover, to at least the threat is – it doesn't have to be neutralized, but at least interdicted so that he can't hurt anybody.

00:22:56.220 To even have one of those cops go up the ladder, or multiple cops go up the ladder and stop, it's astounding.

00:23:02.900 I mean, I hope there is a proper external investigation.

00:23:07.040 We know the federal government is incapable of actually policing itself and of doing an objective, fact-based, non-political, non-ass-covering investigation.

00:23:18.080 So there has to be some external look at this because, unfortunately, I've lost confidence in the federal agencies, and I think you have too.

00:23:26.460 Oh, yeah.

00:23:26.760 New reporting out again today, alleges the Secret Service didn't secure the main access points to the perimeter.

00:23:35.720 Entrances were unmanned, secured with only zip ties.

00:23:40.540 Adjacent neighbors weren't even contacted by the Secret Service.

00:23:44.400 This is not usual Secret Service operation.

00:23:50.660 This is not the way it's supposed to go.

00:23:52.380 Yeah, advance work.

00:23:53.080 If you were the head of the Secret Service, what would you do today?

00:23:59.220 What should they be doing?

00:24:00.520 What should we be as a public seeing today if our Secret Service was competent?

00:24:06.860 She should resign, effective immediately. 0.59

00:24:10.700 And whoever did the advance work for that detail on Saturday should be fired.

00:24:16.560 The head of counter-sniping there should be fired.

00:24:21.540 And, again, I don't – like the Twitter post I said, I just don't – the way of accountability is not the way of Washington anymore.

00:24:30.900 And so I don't think we'll see any changes until there's a new administration, and it speaks to yet another federal agency that is rotted with corruption and incompetence and in social engineering and not focusing on the right things, which is – should be solely focused on mission and execution and excellence.

00:24:53.280 That's nothing else, nothing else, nothing to deviate from other than those core missions.

00:24:58.880 The most important part of executive protection is really good advance work and mapping all the ways and all your likely vulnerabilities.

00:25:10.720 Clearly, that wasn't done because there was so many areas left unwatched, unguarded.

00:25:16.960 But even once the bullet started flying, the diamond, right, the immediate close protection team around the president should have got him off the X immediately and not let him stand up, although him standing up was a magnificent moment of bravery, a Teddy Roosevelt-like moment.

00:25:36.600 Good on the president for having that composure.

00:25:38.480 Good on the president.

00:26:08.480 Good on the president.

00:26:10.360 And that's that.

00:26:12.840 Good on the president.

00:26:13.080 Good on the president.

00:26:16.140 Eric, if you were in Congress and you were a supporter of Joe Biden, wouldn't you be ringing the bell as hard as you are right now?

00:26:24.780 I mean, I'm ringing the bell because I don't want any of these guys shot.

00:26:29.360 It's bad for the country. If we don't fix this, we are entering probably the most dangerous time our country has been in, maybe since World War II, where anything could go wrong and could set the entire country on fire.

00:26:50.540 Why aren't the Democrats raising this alarm?

00:26:55.000 Because they pursue, apparently, a very different paradigm that social engineering and DEI is more important than excellence.

00:27:07.080 And I guess that equates to a fundamental paradigm, and maybe that becomes an electoral issue.

00:27:12.060 Do you vote for excellence and merit, or do you vote for choosing people for their color, sexual preference, gender, whatever it is?

00:27:25.260 And the American people have to choose excellence, or we don't have a country anymore, or a republic at least.

00:27:32.060 I found it weird that the head of the Secret Service was in charge of Pepsi security.

00:27:40.240 You know, I know how much security Doritos do need, but I found that to be...

00:27:47.300 She was a career Secret Service, but that doesn't mean she was an excellent Secret Service officer and the one that should be leading the organization.

00:27:56.180 So, again, I don't care who people sleep with or what bathroom they use.

00:28:02.320 I just want the hardest, most capable protection officers around the president and other VIPs, because, as you know, you're a student of history.

00:28:15.520 World War I started with an assassination of the heir to the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and it uncorked untold millions of deaths in World War I, tens of millions of deaths in World War II, and literally rewrote the map of the world from one hit.

00:28:34.640 And I fear that if we lose a President Trump like that, again, the second- and third-order effects will be really, really ugly.

00:28:45.080 And whoever...

00:28:45.680 I think it would... 1.00

00:28:46.900 If there is external conspiracy, and it wasn't just some 20-year-old idiot that showed up to do this, they need to be careful, because if they sow the wind, they're going to reap the whirlwind. 0.99

00:29:03.120 Eric, I appreciate it. 0.97

00:29:04.500 Thank you for everything that you do.

00:29:05.880 We'll talk again, my friend.

00:29:06.940 You bet, Glenn.

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00:29:24.000 One of, I believe, the real true patriots in America is Kevin Roberts.

00:29:32.400 He's the Heritage Foundation president.

00:29:35.420 We have gotten to know each other quite well over the last year or so, and I have tremendous respect for him, his courage, and what he is also doing.

00:29:45.400 At the Heritage Foundation.

00:29:47.200 I had a family reunion this weekend, this last weekend, and we had about 30 people, 35 people here.

00:29:55.540 And, you know, not everybody votes the same way that I do.

00:29:58.660 In fact, some of my family, you know, kind of rolls their eyes at some of the things I say, and that's fine. 0.91

00:30:04.340 And we're still family, and we love each other.

00:30:06.440 And we had a great conversation about what was going on, especially after the assassination attempt.

00:30:13.080 And what came up over and over again was Project 2025.

00:30:19.080 They're making it into a fascistic state.

00:30:22.420 They are going to give the presidency so much more power.

00:30:26.940 And I laughed, and I said, that's not Project 2025.

00:30:33.020 In fact, that's the opposite of what they're trying to do.

00:30:37.360 This is something the Heritage Foundation has done every election year for many years, but never to this degree.

00:30:43.660 And Kevin Roberts is here to tell us about it.

00:30:46.080 Hello, Kevin.

00:30:46.600 How are you?

00:30:47.780 Glenn, my friend.

00:30:49.040 Great patriot.

00:30:49.760 It's a pleasure to be with you.

00:30:50.660 Thank you.

00:30:52.120 So, Kevin, talk to people who are hearing from the media that this is nothing but a way to carve out special exemptions for the president for fascism.

00:31:07.000 The best way to start, and we'll go into detail, I know, is to say it is total projection by the left.

00:31:13.440 I mean, you, perhaps more than anyone in our modern age, has shown us how whatever the left is accusing our side of is actually something they themselves are guilty of.

00:31:24.040 And so, Project 2025 is actually a corrective to the very thing the left is accusing us of doing.

00:31:31.180 That is, they are the ones, particularly since LBJ's presidency in the 60s, who have accrued all of this power in the hands of unelected bureaucrats in D.C.

00:31:41.120 We feel that in every respect, every industry, every business, and even most of us in our sort of everyday lives.

00:31:48.640 But ultimately, what Project 2025 will do is address the problem of the administrative state in D.C. being weaponized against the everyday American.

00:31:58.580 It's the biggest threat, as you know, the administrative state, Glenn, to a republic where citizens vote for a new president and a new direction, and yet nothing changes.

00:32:08.960 In fact, what we will see, if any aspects of Project 2025 are implemented, is a diminishing of the scope of Washington, D.C., and an increase in freedoms, and the presidency and the legislative branch and the judicial branch all being returned to proper order.

00:32:27.020 In other words, it really is, I think, the single best set of policy ideas about how we go back to the original founding vision, as our founders had it, of this constitutional republic.

00:32:39.060 You know, I said to some of my relatives, look, you and I agree on one thing, I think, and they did.

00:32:45.760 And that is, no citizen should ever be afraid that the president of the United States is going to get him.

00:32:55.280 That this election would put somebody in office where he could take away freedoms of people he didn't like or didn't agree with. 0.96

00:33:04.600 That's, I am absolutely against that, because I know it always comes around to bite whoever did it in the butt, because they'll eventually get to you. 0.92

00:33:14.620 And that's not our system.

00:33:17.460 This ensures that the president, no matter which side they're on, doesn't have that power to get his enemies or to just rule his way without the consent of Congress and the people.

00:33:35.100 That's right. And if if that kind of abuse and weaponization against the American people using the administrative state, we've seen against the right, the political right by President Biden were for some reason to be done by a conservative administration.

00:33:51.060 We at Project 2025 and at Heritage, to your point, Glenn, would be just as apoplectic.

00:33:57.200 Every one of us from the far left to the far right, wherever someone is on that political spectrum, needs to wake up in this country and believe that of all entities, the federal government is going to be objective

00:34:08.840 and neutral and neutral and fair and just and equal and equal and how it treats all of our citizens.

00:34:15.440 And so the real problem that we're trying to address isn't just the accrual of power since the 60s in particular.

00:34:23.220 It is without getting engaged in hyperbole, which, you know, I detest addressing the weaponization of the federal government against individual citizens.

00:34:32.220 I'll give you a quick story that is a personal reference, but it's emblematic of what people feel.

00:34:37.680 I, as you know, am a traditional Roman Catholic.

00:34:41.220 Doesn't mean that people have to agree with that, but that's my religious liberty and my family's to practice that.

00:34:46.480 We have over the last few years, those of us in that category, not just been fearful of, but we know the following has happened.

00:34:54.000 We know this from the director of the FBI and the attorney general of Biden's administration.

00:34:59.140 They have targeted faithful, traditional Catholics because we like the Latin mass as somehow being domestic terrorists.

00:35:06.600 It's that kind of nonsense that Project 2025 would bring to an end if the next administration so desires to implement.

00:35:14.740 So has Trump signed on for any of this?

00:35:18.440 Look, it's informal.

00:35:19.800 The president, of course, has distanced himself from this, which is, I think, a smart political move, given how successful the left's mischaracterization of this has been.

00:35:29.560 Ultimately, though, to your question, great ideas and great people rise to the top.

00:35:34.640 And so without it all being presumptuous, which you know I am not, and Project 2025 is designed to sort of be in the background, those great ideas and those great people, I think, are going to be part of this conversation.

00:35:48.580 Once the Trump-Vance administration takes office.

00:35:51.300 So I would, for people trying to make sense of President Trump's comments and his campaign's comments and the project, understand that we are in the political season right now, and soon we will move into the transition and policymaking season.

00:36:05.560 And I just have great confidence in the policies and people who are part of it and think that we're going to have a great era of good, common sense policy reform that ultimately is sort of neither conservative nor liberal.

00:36:19.820 It's just right, and it's just common sense.

00:36:22.380 I will tell you that I read the website, and we're doing a show on it tomorrow night, to go through what it is and what it's not.

00:36:31.980 And if people will read it, I mean, I think the media is doing a great service in a way.

00:36:39.900 If people go to the website and really look up what Project 2025 is and reads it, I think most Americans will agree with a lot of it.

00:36:51.120 You know, you're talking about dismantling the, not the DOJ, but the DHS.

00:37:02.560 You're returning the component parts to other agencies.

00:37:06.060 You're talking about eliminating harmful regulations that have stifled innovation in small businesses, more oil and gas leases, less climate extremism, no more overregulation of dishwashers and gas stoves and everything else that they said they definitely weren't doing.

00:37:23.280 You know, I think, Kevin, the idea here is the administrative state has been made into something that can do all the things that they know they can't get passed into laws, and that's what's got to stop.

00:37:39.060 These people, these elites are running these organizations, and they decide what's best, and it never comes to us.

00:37:47.180 And if we want to change, then we'll change.

00:37:50.280 You can't force us to do that, especially as an unelected official.

00:37:56.980 That's the key issue is that Congress, of course, is complicit in this by not being forceful enough over the last decades.

00:38:04.740 And what it's done, frankly, under both Democrat and Republican administrations, is create this yo-yo effect of the Democrats and the Republicans issuing these executive orders.

00:38:14.780 I'm still hopeful enough about this country, Glenn, to believe that maybe a vast majority of us across the political spectrum understand that's not how we ought to make law.

00:38:25.660 And so what we're trying to do with the proposals we have in Project 2025, in addition to what you said, is call for an end to DEI and CRT.

00:38:34.860 I mean, this is something that's vastly supported.

00:38:38.300 Unfortunately, we probably see, in addition to all of the aspects of the failure on Saturday's near assassination, the effects of that.

00:38:46.420 That was a higher goal, DEI for the Secret Service director, than real competence.

00:38:51.480 This is the point.

00:38:52.880 Americans understand what is going on, which is that a small group of people have concentrated power.

00:39:00.000 They're not elected.

00:39:01.280 They might be good people.

00:39:02.600 We don't have to get into the personal side of this, but they are people who do not want those of us who are regular, normal people to go about our lives.

00:39:11.620 It's imperative that people understand that the very reason the left has spent more money demonizing Project 2025 than we've spent putting it together tells you it is a threat to their power.

00:39:25.340 And that ought to excite us about the possibilities ahead.

00:39:28.300 You know, you talk about in Project 2025 something that I haven't heard for a long time, and that's a flatter and fairer tax code with a 15% bracket and a 30% bracket.

00:39:40.300 They, of course, will say this is tax cuts for the rich, etc.

00:39:44.120 But it has shown math does not lie.

00:39:47.620 It has been shown over and over and over again.

00:39:50.240 No matter what you do with the tax code, the government brings in about 18% total.

00:39:56.940 And if you bring the tax code and bring it up to 95, people find loopholes, don't pay their taxes, etc., etc., and they still get about 17% to 18% going into the Treasury.

00:40:10.500 So why not do a flat tax where everybody pays what's appropriate, and you don't have all of these loopholes?

00:40:19.320 Because that would be fantastic.

00:40:22.040 Chance that that happens?

00:40:23.820 I think there's a chance.

00:40:25.220 In fact, in some recent interview in the last couple of weeks, President Trump has even hinted at that.

00:40:31.020 Obviously, we're going to have to deal as a country with tax policy because the Trump tax cuts are up for renewal.

00:40:38.340 And I think there's an opportunity, depending on what the president, the vice president, of course, want to do, we will be of service to that, is to insert into that a flatter system.

00:40:46.660 I mean, I'm old enough to remember when, as a country, 10 or so years ago, we were on the cusp of implementing that kind of thing.

00:40:54.700 This is an excellent example of something that is in Project 2025 that is wildly supported by a majority of people.

00:41:02.620 And it leads me to the following connected point, Glenn.

00:41:06.320 You touched on this just a minute ago.

00:41:08.820 Project 2025 covers literally every policy issue known to man.

00:41:13.840 It is a menu of policy options.

00:41:16.660 I've not met one fellow conservative, whether that's my wife or one of my siblings or my dad, all staunch conservatives who agree with 100% of what's in there.

00:41:27.540 The point is not to seek unanimity.

00:41:29.980 The point is to provide a menu of options that represent the popular will that, if President Trump and Vice President Vance so choose,

00:41:37.820 there's actually a substantive plan behind that political impulse.

00:41:43.360 And that, actually, I would like to think, for people who are more objective in the political center or the political left,

00:41:49.960 give people a little bit of comfort that, actually, what we're trying to do here is have a governing agenda,

00:41:55.560 following the lead of the men who will be making the decisions.

00:41:58.260 And I think, as time goes on, to sum up here, the more we understand that's actually what this project is about,

00:42:05.960 the more we're not only telling the truth, but we're actually kneecapping what has been a last-ditch desperation attempt by the left,

00:42:13.680 which can't run on the record.

00:42:14.860 Can you do me a favor?

00:42:16.940 I've got about 60 seconds.

00:42:18.360 I just want to run through some true and false, because these are the things that are being said about it.

00:42:22.960 I just want to know if this is true or false.

00:42:25.720 In Project 2025, there is a call to end no-fault divorce.

00:42:31.120 True or false?

00:42:32.300 False.

00:42:34.020 Complete ban on abortions without exceptions.

00:42:36.620 True or false?

00:42:38.400 Extraordinarily false.

00:42:40.600 Ban contraceptives.

00:42:42.280 True or false?

00:42:43.660 False.

00:42:44.860 Higher taxes for the working class. 0.68

00:42:48.900 False.

00:42:49.580 The exact opposite.

00:42:51.980 Additional tax breaks for corporations and the 1%.

00:42:55.320 False.

00:42:59.040 Elimination of unions and worker protections.

00:43:02.020 My gosh, look at what they're saying.

00:43:03.940 I know.

00:43:04.460 So false.

00:43:06.340 Cut Social Security.

00:43:08.640 False.

00:43:10.040 Raise the retirement age. 0.63

00:43:12.540 False.

00:43:12.820 End the Affordable Care Act.

00:43:16.060 False.

00:43:17.260 Raise prescription drug prices.

00:43:20.140 False.

00:43:21.480 Eliminate the Department of Education.

00:43:24.280 True, my friend.

00:43:25.500 That's the one thing they get right.

00:43:27.040 Love that.

00:43:28.300 Use public taxpayer money for private religious schools.

00:43:31.260 True or false?

00:43:32.360 False.

00:43:33.000 Teach Christian religious beliefs in public schools.

00:43:40.000 False.

00:43:40.320 We understand it's a pluralistic country.

00:43:42.280 We love those schools, but that's up to people to decide.

00:43:45.740 End civil rights and DEI protections in government.

00:43:50.580 Well, we definitely want to end DEI nonsense, but obviously the great thing about Project 2025 is that we're restoring civil rights, if anything.

00:43:59.500 Banned books and curriculum about slavery.

00:44:04.860 False.

00:44:06.620 Ending climate projections or protections.

00:44:08.940 Well, the ones that aren't based on science will come to an end, but we certainly understand the value of science and protecting the environment.

00:44:18.220 I got to tell you, this is why we're doing a whole show on it.

00:44:20.680 What they're saying about this is incredible.

00:44:22.640 What it is, it's not.

00:44:24.520 You can find it at heritage.org or you can go to Project 2025.

00:44:28.060 I believe that's project2025.org.

00:44:31.220 Kevin, great to talk to you.

00:44:32.660 We'll talk to you again.

00:44:34.000 Thanks, Glenn.

00:44:34.480 Take care.

The Glenn Beck Program - July 16, 2024

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