The Glenn Beck Program - October 19, 2021


Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Ezra Levant & Artur Pawlowski ｜ 10⧸19⧸21


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The First Amendment is on the ropes in Canada. Pastor Arthur Pawlowski has been ordered to read a government-drafted script every time he criticizes the government. Ezra Levant explains why this is happening and why it is so disturbing.

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00:00:00.000 Great show. Really, I mean, you know, we get into the mask mandates.
00:00:05.680 I mean, why don't we have a bourbon mandate?
00:00:08.800 Seriously, something we could all get behind.
00:00:11.660 And good for the kids, too. We get into that a little bit.
00:00:14.780 Also, what the federal government did on Friday with the banks and how it affects you.
00:00:22.800 This is information you're not going to get anyplace else and is really critically important.
00:00:30.000 Today, you don't want to miss a second of the podcast.
00:00:44.760 We in America have something called the First Amendment, and it is on the ropes.
00:00:55.160 But I want to show you a glimpse of what happens when you don't have the First Amendment.
00:01:01.280 Canada is we've always looked at Canada as like a little mini America, and it is really, truly becoming that.
00:01:09.900 We are becoming much more like Canada, and we are not standing for the Bill of Rights.
00:01:15.440 But I want to show you where that leads you.
00:01:18.380 Ezra Levant is with us. He is the founder of Rebel News and the host of the Ezra Levant Show.
00:01:22.840 He brought a big Canadian story to my attention, and I want him to tell you the story.
00:01:30.180 Ezra, welcome.
00:01:31.800 Thanks very much, Glenn.
00:01:33.500 I have to tell you, I have some bad news since we last communicated.
00:01:38.380 Yesterday, another Christian pastor was arrested in the province of Manitoba.
00:01:43.320 Another Christian pastor was jailed in the province of New Brunswick.
00:01:48.800 We're almost at 10 Christian pastors who have been jailed.
00:01:53.240 None of them have done any crimes.
00:01:55.180 None of them have broken the law.
00:01:56.580 They simply opened their churches during the lockdown.
00:02:00.540 Walmart is open.
00:02:01.820 Costco is open.
00:02:03.180 We're coming up on 10 pastors who have been imprisoned.
00:02:07.080 And the worst case is the other fellow who's about to join us, Pastor Arthur Pawlowski.
00:02:13.020 Not only has he been jailed, but now a court has ordered him that whenever he says something contrary to government policy,
00:02:21.580 whether it's in a church sermon or in the media or on Twitter or Facebook,
00:02:26.900 he must immediately read a government-drafted script rebutting and rebuking and disclaiming himself.
00:02:36.140 He must denounce himself immediately after criticizing the government on lockdowns.
00:02:43.220 It's incredible to believe, but a court has ordered that.
00:02:45.620 Oh, my gosh.
00:02:46.220 Pastor Arthur is joining us now.
00:02:50.100 Pastor, how are you, sir?
00:02:52.320 Good.
00:02:52.860 Thank you very much for having me on.
00:02:54.500 You bet.
00:02:54.880 Can you just read what you're supposed to say every time you speak?
00:03:01.160 Well, pretty much what he is ordering me to say is that masks do work,
00:03:06.760 that majority of the medical profession agree that social distancing works,
00:03:12.680 that vaccinations are saving lives.
00:03:16.240 You know, the typical two-year right now bombardment left and right that we are receiving straight from
00:03:24.120 communism, communism, China.
00:03:26.360 As you can tell, I grew up behind the Iron Curtain under the boots of the Soviets.
00:03:30.400 I've seen those show trials on television when I was growing up where an individual would be brought before the justice system,
00:03:39.260 of course, without justice.
00:03:40.540 It was all a show.
00:03:42.120 And he was commanded somewhere in the middle of the trial to read the script telling how amazing socialism is,
00:03:51.640 how amazing communism is.
00:03:53.740 And that's exactly what we're seeing right now in Canada, compelled speech, just like in China, Soviet Russia, North Korea.
00:04:01.800 I mean, it's unbelievable what is happening to him, free and democratic society.
00:04:07.700 Of course, I'm not going to do it.
00:04:10.020 I didn't do it.
00:04:11.260 I refuse to do it.
00:04:12.400 So, good for you.
00:04:14.380 You have also been sentenced to, I think, 21 days in prison and told you could not travel until 2023.
00:04:26.040 That's exactly right.
00:04:27.680 You see, I spent four months in your beautiful country, touring around and talking at different conferences,
00:04:33.660 different political parties, rallies, and churches.
00:04:37.580 And the judge was observing, the government here was observing what I was doing.
00:04:42.220 And because of this amazing response that I received all over the country, I would speak to 10,000, 15,000 people,
00:04:51.200 the judge and the government is so terrified of the popularity that I have gained that he is banning me.
00:04:58.440 I'm a prisoner, political prisoner, in the province of Alberta for 18 months.
00:05:04.340 He is not allowing me to leave my province for a year and a half.
00:05:11.840 Ezra, what the hell is happening?
00:05:15.500 Well, I want to say one thing, Glenn.
00:05:17.720 You might find what Pastor Arthur says hard to believe.
00:05:21.120 Could that possibly be true?
00:05:23.440 Is he possibly exaggerating?
00:05:25.960 And I want to let you know that we've put the 12-page court ruling on a website, firethejudge.com.
00:05:32.720 You can see where I stand on the issue.
00:05:34.900 But read it for yourself.
00:05:36.400 The judge is outraged by two things, by three things that Pastor Arthur did.
00:05:41.180 He's outraged that he's opened the church, okay?
00:05:43.940 But he specifically rages that Pastor Arthur warned other churches in America he's been tracking Pastor Arthur.
00:05:53.060 He saw that Pastor Arthur met with a governor and had a selfie.
00:05:57.080 He specifically rages against that in the ruling.
00:06:00.340 So he says, how can I stop that?
00:06:03.020 Oh, I know.
00:06:03.980 I'll ban him from leaving the jurisdiction for 18 months.
00:06:07.720 It's almost like house arrest.
00:06:10.640 And then he says, well, Pastor Arthur went on Fox News and spoke to millions of Americans.
00:06:17.900 How can I stop media interviews?
00:06:20.100 If I have him forced to stay in the jurisdiction, he can still do media interviews.
00:06:25.580 How can I thwart that?
00:06:27.240 Oh, I know.
00:06:28.720 I will require him to self-denounce after every public utterance.
00:06:33.900 And if he does not do these two things, back to jail he goes.
00:06:38.580 You might think, nah, that can't be.
00:06:41.380 But the judge actually wrote out, handwrote this script that Pastor Arthur must say.
00:06:48.020 You can find the 12-page ruling at firethejudge.com.
00:06:51.840 And where is the civil liberties folks?
00:06:55.620 Where's the silence?
00:06:57.800 Where's the media who should support freedom of speech, should support the right to disagree?
00:07:04.440 They're cheering for this.
00:07:06.620 I think we're in dark days, Glenn.
00:07:08.620 And don't think this ain't coming for America.
00:07:11.140 Yes, you have that First Amendment protection.
00:07:13.560 But if you don't use it, you will lose it.
00:07:16.220 Pastor, are you going to get in trouble for being on this program?
00:07:20.260 Well, you see, the reality of my life right now is just like behind the Iron Curtain.
00:07:26.840 Right now, actually, I am living behind the Iron Curtain in Canada.
00:07:31.720 I can be arrested right now.
00:07:34.500 They can smash the doors to my office.
00:07:37.680 And I can be arrested, handcuffed, thrown in prison as we speak right now.
00:07:41.960 Because since the ruling last Wednesday, I am obliged, commanded by the state and the corrupted judge to recite a party line.
00:07:52.860 And, of course, I'm not part of the Communist Party of Canada.
00:07:57.540 Therefore, I will not recite their lies.
00:08:00.460 I am a pastor.
00:08:01.500 I refuse to speak lies.
00:08:03.360 I refuse to preach lies.
00:08:05.100 And, by the way, they have CNN reporters for that and CBC reporters for that.
00:08:09.780 They don't really need me for that job.
00:08:13.040 So I refuse to do it.
00:08:14.760 I can be arrested at any moment right now since last Wednesday when he pronounced that ruling.
00:08:20.940 You know, Stolz Nietzsche, who I know you're aware of, wrote, I think it was Live Not By Lies, something like that.
00:08:31.680 And he said that's the one thing that all Soviet citizens can do to push back is to not repeat the lies, not to sit for them, not to if you're hearing them, you get up and walk out.
00:08:46.780 You're not to sit in your church, you're not to sit in your office when they say, hey, you have to do this, you have to do that, you have to say white people are racist.
00:09:00.260 Whatever it is that you do not believe is true, you must get up, walk out, be polite, and just say, I'm not standing for this because these things are lies.
00:09:11.580 And the most important thing is what you just said.
00:09:16.100 I'm not going to say what they want me to say because it's not true.
00:09:23.220 That's exactly right.
00:09:24.520 Here's a beautiful quote that really touched my heart in the past week from George R.R. Martin.
00:09:30.800 When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar.
00:09:34.880 You're only telling the word that you fear what he might say.
00:09:39.080 This case, this sham of a court ruling, and it is just a show trial trying to force free Canadians to bow, to take a knee before a totalitarian medical tyranny.
00:09:55.980 And I just simply, as a pastor, as a Christian, refuse to do it.
00:10:00.300 They can lock me up, but my imprisonment, my political imprisonment, will yell even louder from the jail cell until, hopefully, Canadians will wake up. 0.70
00:10:13.000 And I hope that great American eagle will rise up again, start flapping its wings, and come to the rescue.
00:10:19.460 You've done it before.
00:10:20.540 You came to rescue Europe during the first and the second war. 0.55
00:10:24.480 We need America to rise up once again.
00:10:26.880 I wouldn't count on that.
00:10:30.460 I think we'd be better off putting our eggs in the God basket than the America basket, because I don't see America doing much.
00:10:39.100 Pastor, how can we help you?
00:10:43.700 Well, you can go to firethejudge.com.
00:10:46.980 I mean, that's a huge, powerful pressure on those crooks.
00:10:52.540 Firethejudge.com.
00:10:54.040 There is also a complaint that you can launch against this judge that will go to the commission.
00:11:01.920 So you can go over there if you want to directly help us.
00:11:07.140 But, you know, what I do, I feed thousands of people on the streets of Calgary.
00:11:10.800 People can go to www.streetchurch.ca, and they can support us to do what we want to do.
00:11:17.400 We just want to be left alone and feed the poor, clothe the sick, you know, heal the sick, and clothe the naked.
00:11:24.720 And we have a halfway housing as well for the homeless people.
00:11:27.640 And that's what I want to do.
00:11:28.820 I don't want to do any politics.
00:11:30.620 I'm not a politician, according, you know, to their standards.
00:11:34.300 I'm just a God's ambassador.
00:11:36.620 I want to do what God is telling me to do, to preach the gospel, feed the poor, and be left alone from a totalitarian regime.
00:11:44.460 But it looks like they don't want to give me that courtesy.
00:11:47.920 So I have to stand up and fight.
00:11:49.460 If people want to be part of that, they can go to our website, www.streetchurch.ca.
00:11:53.620 www.streetchurch.ca, and www.firethejudge.com.
00:12:01.380 Ezra, thank you for bringing this to our attention.
00:12:04.660 Let us know how we can help.
00:12:07.420 Will do, Glenn.
00:12:08.400 Thanks for shining a light on it.
00:12:10.180 I believe you've shown more interest in this case from a civil liberties point of view, unfortunately, than any Canadian journalist has.
00:12:16.960 So I thank you for that.
00:12:17.940 Jeez.
00:12:18.920 Is there anyone in Canada that is looking like they're waking up to this?
00:12:23.680 Is there any groundswell at all?
00:12:28.940 There is, but it's not in any institution.
00:12:33.100 It's grassroots people.
00:12:34.560 Yeah.
00:12:34.780 Every government and opposition, every corporate media, every law professor, every judge, every college of physicians and surgeons, they're unanimous on the other side.
00:12:47.560 That's what makes this judge's order so weird.
00:12:50.060 Why do they need Pastor Arthur to say what every other voice is saying?
00:12:55.160 Does this judge really think that we haven't heard the dominant narrative on the lockdown?
00:13:01.120 And of course he knows everyone has.
00:13:03.440 It's not that people haven't heard the message and they need to hear it from Pastor Arthur.
00:13:08.680 It's all about making Pastor Arthur bend the knee and bow down to the new priesthood, the new superstition.
00:13:17.360 Anthony Fauci is the Pope now.
00:13:20.740 And it's not about, it is about breaking his spirit and making him put the government atop everything else.
00:13:29.100 That's why they're demanding he renounce himself.
00:13:31.320 So it's, I think it is communistic.
00:13:33.960 It's like a Maoist struggle session.
00:13:36.920 It is.
00:13:37.340 Ezra, thank you so much.
00:13:38.420 God bless.
00:13:39.800 Thanks, Glenn.
00:13:40.500 Bye-bye.
00:13:42.420 I'm at firethejudge.com now and they have the actual full document.
00:13:46.120 And so he has three days in prison, which was fully satisfied.
00:13:50.720 Ordered to pay a fine of $23,000.
00:13:54.220 He is going to be placed on 18 months probation.
00:13:59.160 He must remain in the province of Alberta during this period of probation unless he obtains the consent of his probation officer.
00:14:05.720 And then what he talked about, I mean, it's right here in black and white.
00:14:08.620 The final term of his probation order will be that he is exercising his right of free speech against health orders.
00:14:13.720 He must indicate his communications in the following.
00:14:16.980 I am also aware that the views I am expressing to you on this occasion may not be the views held by the majority of medical experts in Alberta.
00:14:23.040 While I may disagree with them, I am obliged to inform you that the majority of medical experts favor social distancing, mask wearing, and avoiding large crowds to reduce the spread of COVID-19.
00:14:32.960 Most medical experts also support participation in a vaccination program unless for a valid religious or medical reason you cannot be vaccinated.
00:14:40.680 Vaccinations have been shown statistically to save lives to reduce the severity of COVID-19 symptoms.
00:14:45.900 Good heavens.
00:14:46.820 I mean, they literally wrote a script for this guy to have to read every time he speaks publicly.
00:14:54.060 Unbelievable.
00:14:55.120 No, no, no.
00:14:57.080 Another courageous voice.
00:14:59.180 So I am trying to eat healthier and I am.
00:15:02.140 But the thing is, I don't like healthy food.
00:15:05.400 I don't like any of it.
00:15:06.860 You've heard of a fat suit, right?
00:15:08.380 I mean, there's got to be.
00:15:09.580 When are we getting a skinny suit?
00:15:11.000 Something that will make me look skinny because I just want treats all the time. 0.77
00:15:15.480 I grew up in a bakery for the love of Pete.
00:15:17.920 The bad news is no skinny suit is coming.
00:15:20.020 You actually have to do the work, blah, blah, blah.
00:15:22.100 That's why I am eating Bilt Bars.
00:15:24.140 It satisfies my sweet tooth, but it's a protein bar, but not like, you know, that's like eating stuff at the bottom of my chalkboard usually.
00:15:32.440 This is 100% real chocolate.
00:15:34.580 It's low carb, low sugar.
00:15:36.500 If I'm eating a protein bar as a treat, come on, you've got to know it's good.
00:15:40.680 And I am.
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00:15:58.880 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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00:16:06.740 I told you 10 years ago, chaos would be the operative word when you stopped recognizing your country.
00:16:21.000 You would see it fall into chaos, and there would be agents of chaos, people that would do anything they could to create more chaos.
00:16:31.660 We are seeing that right now.
00:16:35.140 Chaos is everywhere.
00:16:38.940 And it seems as though the government of the United States and some state governors and state agencies are adding to the chaos.
00:16:51.580 When you say we're going to defund the police, you're adding to the chaos.
00:16:57.960 It doesn't do anyone, especially at the lowest rungs of the ladder, any good to defund the police.
00:17:05.740 As you see, crime is going up.
00:17:08.100 Now we add to it a vaccine mandate.
00:17:11.800 How many cops are being lost now because of this?
00:17:15.840 We have in Chicago, the mayor of Chicago says that the police union just opposing the city's vaccine mandate is trying to induce an insurrection.
00:17:29.780 So now you're a traitor to your country.
00:17:32.380 Well, Robert LeMay has been on the police force.
00:17:39.240 He's actually been a Washington State Patrolman for 22 years.
00:17:44.040 He has been honored with multiple awards.
00:17:47.000 The Red Cross Real Life Hero Award.
00:17:50.460 The Washington State Police Commission Award.
00:17:52.280 He won that twice.
00:17:53.240 Washington State Patrol Commercial Vehicle Division Trooper of the Year in 2007, 2008, 2009.
00:18:02.380 He is a remarkable guy now leaving because of the mandate.
00:18:08.860 He's in Yakima, Washington.
00:18:10.960 And here's what his sign off sounded like at the end of his final shift on Sunday.
00:18:17.860 This is my final sign off after 22 years of serving the citizens of the state of Washington.
00:18:23.320 I'm being asked to leave because I am dirty.
00:18:25.880 Numerous fatalities, injuries, I've worked sick, I've played sick, we've buried lots of friends over these years.
00:18:36.600 I'd like to thank you guys.
00:18:37.780 I'd like to thank the citizens of Yakima County as well as my fellow officers within the valley.
00:18:44.900 Without you guys, I wouldn't have been very successful.
00:18:46.620 And you've kept me safe and got me home to my family every night.
00:18:51.080 Thank you for that.
00:18:54.460 Wish I could say more, but this is it.
00:18:57.520 So State 1034, this is the last time you'll hear me in a state patrol car.
00:19:02.280 And Jay Ansley can kiss my ass.
00:19:03.820 Robert LeMay, the former Washington State Trooper that you just heard sign off, joins us now.
00:19:13.140 Hi, Robert.
00:19:13.680 How are you?
00:19:14.940 Hi, Glenn.
00:19:15.560 And I can verify that.
00:19:16.800 I remember you talking about that 10 years ago, and I'll be dang, it's happening.
00:19:20.600 It's crazy, isn't it?
00:19:21.940 I wish I were wrong.
00:19:22.960 I was insane.
00:19:23.740 Yeah.
00:19:24.200 I wish you were too.
00:19:25.580 Yeah.
00:19:26.100 So, Robert, thank you for listening for all these years.
00:19:30.000 And thank you for what you've done as a Washington State Trooper.
00:19:32.660 You guys truly are amazing.
00:19:35.640 You know, there are bad people in my business.
00:19:38.360 There are bad people in the bakery business.
00:19:40.320 There are bad people in the cop business.
00:19:42.640 But the vast majority is good.
00:19:44.720 So thank you for being one of the good guys.
00:19:47.240 Why did you decide?
00:19:48.540 You're welcome.
00:19:49.340 Why did you decide to leave instead of taking the vaccine?
00:19:55.040 Well, when this all started, and I apologize, I'm actually in a Santa can right now on a construction site.
00:20:00.600 This construction site believes in what's going on so much.
00:20:03.900 But they're like, you go do your interview.
00:20:05.820 And I found the state's as quiet as a place I could do it.
00:20:08.180 So I apologize for the echo right now.
00:20:10.720 What is it with people doing interviews in the bathroom?
00:20:16.100 Laura Logan just did a TV interview from a bathroom in an airplane with me last week.
00:20:22.900 And now you in a Santa can.
00:20:25.620 I don't know.
00:20:26.860 I don't know.
00:20:27.580 So we talked about this.
00:20:30.340 We kind of saw this stuff coming.
00:20:32.000 The mandates, the vaccines.
00:20:33.940 My wife and I were worried about Christians.
00:20:36.960 And we're like, you know something?
00:20:38.160 This just doesn't rise.
00:20:39.140 So we prayed about it.
00:20:40.160 And we're like, no, we're not doing this.
00:20:42.080 So we started reading more into the vaccines.
00:20:44.460 We knew people that were getting the vaccines.
00:20:45.960 And the weird side effects from we knew some people that actually lost full-term babies, co-workers that actually would collapse.
00:20:54.440 I've got one detective friend of mine who's actually on a heart monitor now.
00:20:57.820 He's 37 years old.
00:20:59.380 Just crazy stuff.
00:21:00.440 So we started seeing this.
00:21:01.980 And I'm like, there's no way I'm doing this.
00:21:03.600 Well, then I started doing the research.
00:21:05.400 I'm also a drug recognitions expert.
00:21:07.120 So I do a lot with neurological things, pharmacology, so on and so forth.
00:21:11.100 So I started reading the science.
00:21:12.560 I'm like, you know, this makes no sense either, reaching out to professionals that I knew that were telling me the same thing.
00:21:18.400 So I'm like, you know, this isn't going to happen.
00:21:20.840 So I made a stand.
00:21:22.000 I got on a Jason Rance's show.
00:21:24.960 Somebody actually reached out to me.
00:21:27.080 I told him the same thing.
00:21:28.100 I said, look, I'm not going to do this.
00:21:30.440 I'm willing to get fired.
00:21:31.680 And my group of people that I work with, I'm old enough to be their dad.
00:21:35.480 You know, like I said, I remember 8-track players, and they have no idea what that is.
00:21:38.520 So, yeah, so I just, I made a stand.
00:21:42.860 Well, this evolved.
00:21:44.080 They said, hey, look, we're going to take religious exemptions.
00:21:46.420 Cool.
00:21:46.900 So myself and numerous other employees throughout the state, DOT, everybody, we put in these things.
00:21:53.460 Well, it took them forever to get back.
00:21:55.480 And they said, well, we recognize your religious exemption.
00:21:57.820 That's fantastic.
00:21:58.660 The problem is, is that we don't have any jobs for you.
00:22:00.760 So you're fired anyways.
00:22:02.560 Furthermore, they threw on top of this, oh, since the separation is not because you really can't do your job,
00:22:09.360 and you just can't do it under these terms, we're not going to give you any unemployment.
00:22:14.640 So basically, my last day, I walked out with my boots.
00:22:19.200 We have, you know, holiday credits and things we can comp out.
00:22:22.040 They're so overloaded right now.
00:22:23.700 They're saying it's probably a minimum of 90 days before you get that back.
00:22:27.820 Just for prior to going on this construction site here, I was watching other videos of my coworkers quitting, retiring, leaving.
00:22:35.640 It's insane.
00:22:36.820 We've been nothing but lied to from the state of Washington, from Governor James Lee's office, as well as our command staff, John Batiste.
00:22:44.160 They've all lied to us.
00:22:45.520 Our union has failed us.
00:22:47.660 We have no other options.
00:22:48.960 So it started off with about 300, excuse me, at least troopers, and then it kind of dwindled down to, I think, the final numbers yesterday was 74.
00:22:59.340 So our chief actually sent out a big document saying, basically, you know, I want to say success, but the way it came out is we were successful.
00:23:06.300 Those of you who stayed, thank you, and they feel like we're replaceable.
00:23:09.420 So it's not a big deal to them.
00:23:11.780 Luckily, I've got enough friends out there that I've been very supportive.
00:23:15.120 Like I said, you've probably seen it's, what, 1.5 million likes or something like that.
00:23:19.360 I've been talking to people throughout the world.
00:23:21.440 I mean, England was calling me yesterday, which is pretty cool.
00:23:24.660 The generosity has been phenomenal.
00:23:26.180 Like I said, I'm on a job site.
00:23:27.440 Somebody's taking my spot so I can actually do this interview.
00:23:30.480 The owner of this company is Puget Sound Executive Services, Bob Rondo, and I've known him for years.
00:23:35.440 He's like, don't worry, man.
00:23:36.660 I'll get you somewhere until you can get your feet down.
00:23:38.360 So that's why I'm here right now.
00:23:40.180 But that's what kind of started it.
00:23:42.400 My wife supported me.
00:23:44.140 My family supported me.
00:23:45.840 It's a tough road, but there's a lot of people that have it worse than me.
00:23:49.460 We have to start hiring people like you.
00:23:53.540 You know, I said earlier we need a parallel economy.
00:23:57.740 We need to begin to gather in areas where we're like-minded.
00:24:04.100 That's what they do.
00:24:05.340 They're like a hive. 0.76
00:24:06.900 And they just take over cities.
00:24:09.960 Well, we need to start doing this, too, and start picking places to live and hiring people like you.
00:24:17.300 If anyone is hiring, you know, for cops, and I would say here in Texas is a good place.
00:24:24.020 Florida would probably be a good place.
00:24:25.600 We need to hire people like Robert.
00:24:32.080 Are you guys willing to move?
00:24:34.080 Do you want to go do a cop thing again?
00:24:36.660 Well, this is kind of where I'm at.
00:24:38.460 So I grew up in Keller, Texas, not too far from y'all.
00:24:40.760 Oh, my gosh, yeah.
00:24:41.360 I moved up here in 90.
00:24:43.980 The support has been unreal.
00:24:46.400 I mean, I've had job offers from across the country, across the state.
00:24:49.800 It's been phenomenal.
00:24:51.060 It's an interesting thing because we started as I got home when this went through, and I was just pissed.
00:24:55.740 We were like, I went to visit my dad and my parents in Fort Worth, Texas.
00:24:59.900 We were driving back, and my phone blew up.
00:25:01.540 I'm one of the peer support people for Washington State Patrol, where I was.
00:25:05.860 But I do a lot with mental health as well for first responders.
00:25:08.840 So my phone blew up.
00:25:11.060 So my wife is like, okay, we're going to sell everything. 1.00
00:25:14.340 We're going to move.
00:25:15.080 And I'm like, okay, cool.
00:25:16.240 Where?
00:25:17.140 Where do you want to go?
00:25:18.420 So Texas is, I mean, that's my home.
00:25:21.080 I've got my coworkers.
00:25:22.680 Everybody's like, you need to go back down to Texas.
00:25:24.460 Florida has been phenomenal.
00:25:25.600 All these guys have been pulling out.
00:25:26.800 But we've been praying about it.
00:25:28.340 It's like, Lord, where do you want us to go?
00:25:30.300 Show us where we need to go.
00:25:31.820 And there really hasn't been one state that's actually jumped up and said,
00:25:34.460 come to us.
00:25:35.900 I think this is, and I'll be honest with you, this has evolved into us meeting now.
00:25:41.160 I mean, if we were just up and pull it and leave, none of this would happen.
00:25:44.920 So I think this is what Lord wants me to do right now,
00:25:47.480 to kind of prosper, be that voice for those folks that don't have a voice.
00:25:51.660 And it's amazing.
00:25:52.720 So many people are so pissed off.
00:25:54.320 And for your listeners, this is Washington.
00:25:57.180 This could come to Texas.
00:25:58.360 This could come to Oklahoma.
00:25:59.960 This could come to Iowa.
00:26:01.540 It is.
00:26:01.900 You have to stand up.
00:26:02.980 And we cannot do this.
00:26:04.500 I mean, like I said, I'm not an interview guy, but I spent from 2 o'clock yesterday morning
00:26:09.760 to late last night just doing phone interviews and a few amusebacks and just all these different
00:26:14.980 places.
00:26:15.440 It's been insane.
00:26:16.220 And I'd like to get a shout out there to Jason Rantz and his show.
00:26:20.200 It's a phenomenal man, and his team is just phenomenal.
00:26:23.280 That's great.
00:26:24.500 Well, I know the Keller Police Department, I don't know about their job openings, but I
00:26:30.100 know they're a good police force.
00:26:31.540 And if you happen to be listening in Keller, Texas, Robert LeMay, decorated former Washington
00:26:40.440 state trooper, seems like exactly the kind of guy that you would want to hire.
00:26:45.460 I don't know if you have job openings, but Keller, Texas or any place that is willing to take
00:26:54.220 a stand and say, we're not, we're not moving.
00:26:57.880 We're not budging off of the Bill of Rights.
00:27:02.480 Sorry.
00:27:03.380 Amen.
00:27:04.000 Amen.
00:27:04.760 Robert, thank you very much.
00:27:06.060 God bless you.
00:27:06.920 You too, sir.
00:27:07.560 Thank you.
00:27:07.940 And thank you.
00:27:08.520 And you guys have a safe and God bless today.
00:27:10.220 You bet.
00:27:10.580 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:27:25.320 Greg Morris is with us.
00:27:27.800 How you doing, Greg?
00:27:28.740 I'm doing great.
00:27:29.240 How are you?
00:27:29.700 Very good.
00:27:30.260 Very good.
00:27:31.680 So tell me the story about start at the beginning.
00:27:35.040 What happened at the school?
00:27:36.420 So the day before school started, we got a note from the Dallas superintendent of the
00:27:41.900 diocese that said basically mask would be required.
00:27:44.720 And we were shocked because going into the school year, they said that mask would not be
00:27:48.320 required.
00:27:49.100 So what we did is we started emailing people and said, you know, hey, can you just tell
00:27:53.000 us, you know, how long will this last?
00:27:55.240 Is there a policy to off ramp the mask?
00:27:59.040 What are the metrics?
00:27:59.800 What are the metrics?
00:28:00.620 And we couldn't get anything back.
00:28:02.020 So I started a change.org petition and it started going out.
00:28:06.920 We got about 1500 signatures.
00:28:08.840 So I want to give the read this because I think it's perfectly reasonable.
00:28:13.200 Today, the Diocese of Dallas announced a policy that requires all students and visitors to all
00:28:18.000 schools in the diocese to wear a mask.
00:28:20.760 I feel this contradicts science, Governor Abbott, executive order and also parents choice.
00:28:27.760 I want to first acknowledge vaccines are important and they are the best defense against COVID-19.
00:28:33.620 There's also not there's nothing stopping students or visitors from wearing a mask.
00:28:37.900 Just last week, President Biden's COVID-19 former advisor and top epidemiologist Michael
00:28:43.260 Osterholm said, quote, we know today that many of the face cloth coverings that people wear
00:28:49.480 are not very effective in reducing any of the virus movement in or out.
00:28:54.700 Studies have shown the viral load in the Delta variant is much higher than the original COVID-19
00:29:00.380 strain that regular masks do not work.
00:29:03.680 In addition, we know that students are not very good at wearing masks, which reduces their
00:29:07.700 efficacy even more.
00:29:10.720 There are examples all over the world that mask mandates just do not work.
00:29:15.340 Most teachers will tell you that masks are distracting for the children and become a
00:29:19.820 distraction in the classroom.
00:29:21.320 I'm asking you to allow parents to make decisions for their families and follow science.
00:29:27.660 Okay.
00:29:28.640 Yeah.
00:29:29.200 So I sent about two or three different emails and we got no response.
00:29:33.440 And then finally, I think on the fourth email, the superintendent, Dr.
00:29:37.080 Vericke basically said, well, it's clear we're going to disagree.
00:29:40.620 And that was basically the end of the discussion.
00:29:42.620 And so I joined up with other parents from across the diocese and we started a website
00:29:48.320 and a Facebook page.
00:29:50.580 And then we continued to write.
00:29:52.800 And we basically then said, you know, we're not going to convince them that masks are ineffective
00:29:57.000 and we're not going to debate the science.
00:29:58.580 So what we said was, you know what, why don't we come up with a policy that is fair, common
00:30:02.960 sense and middle ground that most people can try to get behind on either side of the debate.
00:30:08.620 And so I actually reached out to people that were pro mask and they actually thought it
00:30:12.720 was fair.
00:30:13.140 And so the policy that we basically came up with was said, if the hospitalization rate
00:30:18.100 for our trauma service area, which is the DFW area fell below 15% of COVID patients in
00:30:24.160 the hospital for seven straight days, then mask could come off.
00:30:27.180 But if it was over 15% for seven days, mask were on.
00:30:30.960 So the analogy is like, well, if it's going to rain, you got to wear your raincoat.
00:30:35.220 Right.
00:30:35.400 And so that's all we said.
00:30:36.800 And it said, if this is the policy, then like, or just have a policy.
00:30:40.780 We didn't even care ultimately what the policy was.
00:30:43.140 We just wanted to know.
00:30:44.960 So we, so we sent the policy and it was not even looked at or anything.
00:30:50.400 And so there was a couple of protests that were scheduled.
00:30:55.020 And so we had the protest and at one of the protests, somebody had a sign that said, stop
00:31:00.360 the child abuse.
00:31:01.520 And that frustrated the Bishop.
00:31:03.660 And so I bet it did.
00:31:04.880 Yeah.
00:31:05.080 So I was called in with two other dads who were seen as the face of the opposition.
00:31:09.360 And we were basically threatened that if we continued to try to advocate and communicate
00:31:13.740 with the diocese and the Bishop, that we would be removed.
00:31:16.560 Our son would be removed from school.
00:31:20.000 If you tried to continue to reach out to the Bishop.
00:31:23.500 Yeah.
00:31:24.220 The Bishop and the superintendent.
00:31:25.940 Yeah.
00:31:26.320 Because we knew that.
00:31:27.520 Are you a Catholic?
00:31:28.580 My wife is Catholic.
00:31:29.640 I am not.
00:31:30.340 Okay.
00:31:30.800 And my wife was actually the school nurse where my kids go to school. 1.00
00:31:34.440 So it's not like we're doing this.
00:31:36.300 Wow.
00:31:36.960 Yeah.
00:31:37.600 So they know who we are.
00:31:38.640 She's a Eucharistic minister at the school and the church.
00:31:42.340 Holy cow. 0.89
00:31:42.560 We volunteer.
00:31:43.500 I've coached sports teams.
00:31:44.940 So we know who they are.
00:31:46.580 The other thing that we've tried to do is we've tried to not make this about the vaccine.
00:31:49.560 We've tried to isolate people who are not part of the group that are, you know, kind
00:31:53.940 of really fringe and, you know, want to go crazy.
00:31:56.080 We're trying to stay, you know, in the middle and just ask for a policy.
00:31:59.540 And then, so when they, you know, threatened to kick us out, I was, I mean, we were horrified.
00:32:03.860 My wife was, you know, really upset.
00:32:05.520 And I just said, you know, it sounds like, you know, we're being intimidated by the church.
00:32:09.680 I said, I'm just curious, like, is this what Jesus would do, you know?
00:32:13.780 And, you know, and the, the priest that we met with said, no, you know, and I just said,
00:32:18.740 you know, why are we, why are we being intimidated and, you know, asked to be kicked out?
00:32:22.640 And they said, well, because of this protest.
00:32:24.480 And I said, well, I wasn't at the protest.
00:32:26.520 So does that make me guilty by association?
00:32:29.260 And they said, well, yeah.
00:32:30.740 And I said, you do understand the irony that I'm guilty by association for a sign that
00:32:36.240 says, stop the child abuse with the Catholic church, right?
00:32:40.960 And, uh, well, they said, well, well, and I said, look, I don't, I don't judge the bishop
00:32:44.520 and the superintendent for, you know, I only judge them for their actions, right?
00:32:49.160 And I said, I hope you would judge me for mine.
00:32:50.840 And I said, this whole time I've tried to compromise and find middle ground because I
00:32:54.320 said, the moment you say mass become optional, you're going to get just as much heat from the
00:32:59.000 other side.
00:32:59.480 So I'm trying to give you guys a policy that everybody can live with.
00:33:03.820 So then that way, you know, it's fair to everybody and everybody knows what the expectations are.
00:33:08.120 My thoughts are people can take bad news as long as you give it to them and you give it
00:33:11.500 to them straight.
00:33:12.260 Yep.
00:33:13.160 I don't have a problem with, with Facebook having their own rules to Twitter, having their
00:33:17.500 own rules.
00:33:17.900 What I have a problem is they don't apply equally to everyone.
00:33:23.180 And if you just have a policy, then you know what to expect.
00:33:26.880 And as long as it's applied equally and fairly, then nobody has a problem.
00:33:33.260 We all get along.
00:33:34.520 That's right.
00:33:34.860 That's right.
00:33:35.340 You know, and so that's, that's all we've asked for is, is a policy since the beginning.
00:33:39.220 So what happened after you said that?
00:33:41.860 So they kind of left it in limbo.
00:33:43.960 And so we left and I just said, you know, I, I like to understand what we've done wrong.
00:33:48.920 I said, cause all we've done is advocate for our child.
00:33:52.140 I've sent, you know, five or six emails that have been respectful and polite.
00:33:55.960 And I said, tell me the area of the handbook that I violated.
00:33:58.480 And they couldn't.
00:34:00.220 And so, you know, the next day I, they followed up with a thank you.
00:34:04.760 And I'm like, okay, like now what, you know?
00:34:07.660 And then two days later they called us back in and they said, you know, look, we talked
00:34:11.100 to the superintendent and what we're trying to get to is a, as a high vaccination rate
00:34:15.860 for kids before we go mask optional.
00:34:20.100 There's, there's no vaccine for kids.
00:34:23.180 Right.
00:34:23.460 And nothing is approved for kids.
00:34:24.820 Right.
00:34:25.180 So I think what they want to do is stretch it out till we're, um, the vaccine is basically
00:34:29.920 available for kids and then they'll go mask optional.
00:34:33.000 What science are they following to get to kid vaccines?
00:34:36.920 Yeah.
00:34:37.100 I don't know.
00:34:37.700 I don't know.
00:34:39.940 So, so what is the, what, what, what, what is their real intent or what, what is the desire
00:34:45.880 here?
00:34:46.500 Is that, are they really, they really believe that the kids should have vaccines or is there
00:34:52.040 something else in play at play?
00:34:53.740 Do you know?
00:34:54.120 We don't know.
00:34:55.160 Right.
00:34:55.440 I mean, we, we think that they're ultimately trying to get to where kids have to be vaccinated.
00:34:59.660 I mean, we think that there's a pretty close relationship between, you know, the Dallas
00:35:03.380 diocese and, you know, the local County judge here in Dallas.
00:35:06.620 So we don't know what's going on there.
00:35:09.320 Right.
00:35:09.680 They're, they're very closely aligned.
00:35:12.000 So the local, the local County judge.
00:35:14.660 So, you know, in, uh, in Texas, we have judges.
00:35:17.900 They're not judges there.
00:35:19.400 They are like the County executive everywhere else.
00:35:23.020 Um, and this guy in Dallas County, he is, uh, he's a hard ass.
00:35:29.920 Yeah.
00:35:30.300 And what's crazy too, is had they followed our policy mask would now be optional.
00:35:34.680 I mean, if you look at the, the rates of COVID patients in the hospital, we're down to
00:35:38.120 9%.
00:35:38.740 I mean, during the Delta spike, it was up to like 22, 23%, but now we're down to nine.
00:35:44.100 The thing that's crazy too, is that the Fort Worth diocese was mask optional the entire
00:35:48.680 time.
00:35:49.460 Houston has already gone back to being mask optional.
00:35:52.500 Dallas is one of the only diocese in the state that is still requiring mask for elementary
00:35:57.500 students and middle school students.
00:35:59.780 And I thought that was against, uh, the governor's edict.
00:36:03.920 But because it's a private institution, you know, and so that's our whole thing, right?
00:36:07.620 Is that look, at the end of the day, you're, you're a private institution.
00:36:10.700 You get to do what you want, but don't leave us in limbo.
00:36:12.560 Just tell us what your policy is.
00:36:14.440 And then I can decide for my family if I want to stay or if I want to go.
00:36:18.880 The thing that's crazy is I get emails from parents that their kids are choosing not to
00:36:23.860 wear their glasses because their glasses fog up during class.
00:36:27.240 I don't, whenever I have to wear a mask someplace, I don't ever wear my glasses because I can't
00:36:33.580 see because it always fogs up.
00:36:35.260 Well, and think about the choice, right?
00:36:36.500 You're choosing not to be able to see what you're being taught because you're wearing
00:36:40.920 a mask instead.
00:36:42.140 I mean, for a kid to have to make that choice, I mean, we're seeing personalities change with
00:36:46.560 kids when they come home.
00:36:48.060 I mean, it's just, it's amazing.
00:36:50.120 So where do you go from here?
00:36:51.840 So we're continuing to try to put, you know, pressure and try to have a conversation with
00:36:55.620 what are the churches saying?
00:36:57.020 What is the, is your local church?
00:36:59.560 I think the local churches are supportive, right?
00:37:01.680 They, I think that they're stuck in an uncompromising situation, right?
00:37:04.520 We really like our school.
00:37:05.740 We like our, our church.
00:37:06.920 And, you know, we know that they were put in a pretty vulnerable situation by the diocese
00:37:11.240 to ask us to leave.
00:37:13.640 So, you know, all we're asking for is a policy so we can then decide if we want to keep our
00:37:17.440 students in, in school.
00:37:18.940 The thing that's crazy too, is there's parents that have have medical exemptions because their
00:37:23.760 kids either have asthma, they've had PTSD, some kind of trauma, and they're not acknowledging
00:37:28.800 any medical exemptions.
00:37:31.220 Basically what they've said is, Hey, if we're not meeting your needs, just go somewhere else.
00:37:34.520 And I'm like, Whoa.
00:37:36.040 Right.
00:37:36.300 And I'm like the Catholic diocese and the schools are a ministry to try to bring more
00:37:40.800 people into the Catholic church.
00:37:42.640 And, but you know, when you're just basically telling people like, Hey, if you don't like
00:37:46.060 our service, go somewhere else.
00:37:47.440 I mean, it's just, I just didn't think it was very, you know, Christian of them to do that. 0.99
00:37:51.220 You know, Greg, I, I wish you luck.
00:37:55.500 Thank you.
00:37:56.000 I don't know how this one ends, but we'll be watching.
00:37:58.900 Yeah.
00:37:59.340 Is there anything that people can do to help you?
00:38:01.220 Yeah.
00:38:01.400 So we've, we've created a website.
00:38:02.800 It's a parents of DDS.com.
00:38:06.540 You know, we're looking for, you know, donations and try to continue to just get the words out
00:38:10.320 there.
00:38:10.700 You know, we would ask people to continue to write the Bishop and the superintendent.
00:38:14.280 You know, the big thing is be respectful, be polite.
00:38:17.100 You know, at the end of the day, whatever ends up happening, they're still going to be our
00:38:20.780 Bishop and they're still our superintendent and we want to work with them.
00:38:23.480 We don't want this to be confrontational, right?
00:38:25.460 We want to just find common sense, middle ground approach that, you know, is fair that
00:38:29.800 everybody can live with.
00:38:31.400 Parents of DDS.com, which I mean, I don't know why you're involving the dentists in this,
00:38:38.680 but parents of DDS.com is where you can go.
00:38:42.840 Thank you so much.
00:38:43.700 Yeah.
00:38:43.860 Thanks for having me.
00:38:44.400 God bless you bet.
00:38:45.360 Good luck.