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Glenn Beck is joined by Ezra Levant to discuss why Donald Trump is the most racist president in history. Also, AOC and her squad take on the Trump administration, and Tommy Robinson is in prison for his part in a racist attack on a black man.
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Hello, podcasters. A great, great episode today. We were a little passionate, a little passionate
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about AOC and the squad taking on Donald Trump. We have a few things to say, even used a little
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Malcolm X audio to kind of make you feel a little bit better. Also, the most racist,
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most racist president in history. Historians have now deemed Donald Trump tied for first place.
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Wait until you hear that story. Also, we had Ezra Levant on talking about Tommy Robinson. He's being
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well, he's in jail now in prison. Actually, when you hear his story, it's one that you should pay
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attention. Of course, don't talk about it on Facebook because they'll kick you off if you do.
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Get 60 days risk-free ProtectionHomeTitleLock.com. So the GOP now apparently just is trying to
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elevate AOC and make her into the face of the party. Well, sure. Okay, maybe. But I think it's
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really just a desire to make sure everybody knows who she is and know that the Democratic Party is in
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mortal combat with people who think like her. That's really what it is. She's the she is the
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the quintessential take the mask off. I'm dying to tell you who I am. She is the she and her what do
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they call it? The squad. She and her squad want you to know exactly what they want to do to this country.
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And what they want to do to this country is abandon the free market. Reverse the Constitution.
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Change us fundamentally. Now, I guess the GOP just wants to elevate AOC. And that's the only reason why
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Donald Trump tweeted, maybe you should leave. If you don't like it, leave. Well, that is that's racist.
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That's racist, you know. Is it? Or is it possibly a the truth? And when I say the truth, meaning
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the way we the way we feel, you know, the way people were so tired of being told that we are a bad place,
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that we're bad people, that white people are the problem. I'm so tired of it.
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You know what? If you don't like it, there are about 169 other countries you could go to right now
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that's that's not America. Well, we don't leave things that we love. That was the quote. We don't
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leave things that we love. Tell me what you love about it. I have not heard the things you love
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about it. It's not the Constitution. It's not the free market. It's not our history. Hell, it's not
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even half the people. Because half the people here are clearly racists. So what is it that you love?
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And by the way, call me old fashioned. But you don't fundamentally change the things you love.
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Oh, man, I bought this Picasso. I just love it. It's wonderful. I just want to put the nose where
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the nose belongs. You don't love the Picasso, dude.
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We are a different place. We have a different system. We work things out over time. It takes a
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long time to do it. But this country believes in the individual. And there's always a problem when
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somebody says, you know what, the individual doesn't really get it. That's when you have monsters
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like Andrew Jackson appear. That's when you have, quite frankly, monsters like FDR, who rounded people
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up. Put them in concentration camps. Real ones. American citizens. That was your progressive
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president for you. Now, here's my real problem. My real problem is with the press. The press
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is has deemed Donald Trump's statements racist and deemed now him a racist. There is no, as they said,
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you know, because Donald Trump apparently thinks that some of the things the people in the squad have
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said were, quote, anti-Semitic or, quote, socialist. What? Why the quotes? Why the quotes?
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You don't want to claim what they're saying about Jews are anti-Semitic? You can't read into their
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comments at all. No, you can't say when they say I'm a democratic socialist, you can't say that
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they're socialists? That's exactly what Politico did. They actually said, after they described how he
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was very racist, they said, uh, by the way, none of the four lawmakers are socialists.
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Yes, she's there. Like you all are saying that. Right. Why? Because she's a democratic socialist,
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which is the difference between vanilla ice cream and chocolate chip ice cream, but they're both ice
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cream. Oh my gosh. It is. It's, it's absolutely incredible. And by the way, look up what democratic
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socialists actually want. Don't look at it from a, a, uh, somebody who is trying to cover
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it up. Go to the source, to the democratic socialists and look at what they want.
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Now, Donald Trump is only saying this because, uh, the GOP is, is, is just quote, wanting to
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describe these people as socialists. I'm so sick of this. This is why Donald Trump is going to actually
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gain points from this. And we can, we can dance around the edges and go, well, should he have said
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it? Shouldn't he have said it? We could argue about that all day long. Why? I personally think
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this president, I don't, I just don't believe the guy who was hanging out with Jesse Jackson
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is a racist. I just don't believe the guy who lived in New York forever and got along with
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everybody is a racist. Does he say stupid things? Yeah. Do I really think that he's a racist? No,
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I don't. Now you might have a different opinion on that and you can make a case, but neither one
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of us know if it's true or not. You're reading into his motivation, right? Exactly right. And what
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I read into this is shut up. That's what I read into his comments. Shut up. I am so sick and tired
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of you guys saying everything is bad in America. If you don't like it, leave. Now I've never liked
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that because if you don't like everything in America, you don't have to like everything in
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America, but you're trying to fundamentally transform it and you're using every single
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tactic. And you know what? If America cannot see who these people are, once the masks come off,
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you're doomed America. You're just doomed. Let me play what I said. This is back in about 2009,
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2008. When I was at Fox, this is what I said would happen. The radicals reveal themselves.
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They'll become unafraid. I told you this, and I believe I set this up with something along the
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lines of look out because we'll be in trouble when the mask starts to come off. I told you about a year
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ago that as it would come unraveled, the radicals would start revealing themselves. Watch.
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I think these people are close. I think they're dying to tell us what the real agenda is. I think
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they're close to taking the mask off. Okay. Got it. So what was that?
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Things are at the breaking point. Donald Trump has brought this to the breaking point.
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The Democratic Party is at the breaking point. And it's going to be decided in the next year
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whether or not they become all radicals or the average Democrat still has a party to go to.
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They're saying that Donald Trump is building unity with Nancy Pelosi and unity against Trump.
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Well, I have to tell you, I think it works both ways. I think he's also building unity for Trump,
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for himself. They are socialists. I believe based on their anti-Semitic remarks, they are also
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anti-Semites. Based on all of their quotes about white people, I believe they are also racists.
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But I don't know. But I do know they want to destroy the free market.
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They want to reverse the Bill of Rights and make it into a charter of negative liberties. I'm sorry,
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positive liberties. What the government must do. You don't change the things that you love.
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People are sick of this bizarro world that we're living in. People are sick of this world that the
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media claims not to see. This world where everything that you think you know or knew,
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let me put it this way, you might have heard this if you're a long-time listener,
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people are sick of a world where everything they thought was solid is liquid. Everything that it was
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up is down. They're sick of it. And they know it. And they know it. They took the masks off
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because they think they're in the majority. But I have news for them. They're not. Let me give you
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a flashback. We surround them. It's not the other way around. We surround them. They have just co-opted
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social media. They have co-opted the media giants and the new media giants.
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But they're not in the majority. The majority of Americans know free health care for all illegal
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aliens is insane. People know instinctively that you may want more immigrants, less immigrants,
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whatever. But we need to know who's coming in. The vast majority of people know that.
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The vast majority of people do not dismiss MS-13. They don't look at these as good people or people
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who have just gone astray. They know who MS-13 is. And if they don't, all they have to do is to look
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at the local headlines of their paper. In LA today, 22 people are on trial from MS-13. Why are they on
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trial? Lots of reasons. Kind of the one that stands out is they were beheading people and hacking people
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to death with machetes. I don't know. That sounds like something maybe we don't want on the streets of
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America. And by the way, it's not just me saying this. I'm going to pause for a minute. I'm going
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to come back. I'm going to show you that Democrats are now saying this. I'll also show you that what
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the president said is is going to resonate with a lot of people. I don't like the way he said it per
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se, but I got news for you. He's speaking what millions, millions of Americans are feeling,
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what this American is feeling. And it's going to work to his advantage because it's based in truth.
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Hey, it's Glenn. And if you like what you hear on the program, you should check out Pat Gray
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Unleashed. His podcast is available wherever you download your favorite podcast. I think we kind
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of stumbled onto something here with talking about the times that we're in right now. I sense
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the end coming. And that could be in 10 years, but I don't mean that in a I don't mean that in a bad
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way. I mean that we're at a pivot point right now. Uh, and we've seen it before we've seen it
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before. Do we have that Malcolm X audio? Um, let me play this Malcolm X audio. He's talking about
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Barry Goldwater and I'm not sure he likes Barry Goldwater an awful lot, but he also doesn't like
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liberals. Now listen to what Malcolm X said. Well, if Goldwater ever becomes president, one thing his,
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uh, presence in the white house will do, it will make black people in America have to face up to
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facts probably for the first time, uh, in many, many years. And this in itself is good. This will
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have a tendency to make the Negro probably for the first time, uh, do something to stand on his own
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feet and solve his own problem instead of putting himself in a position to be misled, misused, exploited,
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uh, by the whites who pose as liberals only, uh, for the purpose of getting the support of the
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Negro. So in one sense, uh, Goldwater's coming in will awaken the Negro and it will probably
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awaken the entire world more so than the world has been awakened since Hitler. Okay. You know,
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the last part, you know, might be unfair, but, um, but we'll listen to what he said. He said,
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if somebody comes in like Barry Goldwater shakes things up, they're going to have to look and say,
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you know, these are not my friends. I think this is happening. I think this is happening. Now
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a lot of African Americans are silently and some not so silently supporting Donald Trump.
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So this message from the 1960s is, is at least relevant to today. The message that we just were
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talking about with revolution, you have to remember the Beatles were part of this hippie loving thing.
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Remember they were, you know, smoking pot, having incense going, you know, off to the mountains to
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find themselves with, you know, gurus, all of these things. They were very, at the beginning,
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they were very much part of the culture, but at the same time, counterculture. And as we got closer
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to the 1968, 1969, 1970 era, uh, they were very almost counterculture. They were in the,
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the hippie movement and they kept being asked, will you join the revolution? There was a marker
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set down because what AOC doesn't have is a music revolution. The hippies back then, they had all the
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musicians on board. And then the Beatles came out with revolution. And you say you want a revolution.
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Well, we all want to change the world. But if you want money for people with minds that hate,
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all I can tell you, brother, is you're going to have to wait. Don't you know, it's going to be
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all right. You say you want to change the constitution. Well, we all want to change your
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head. You tell me it's the institution. Would we better free your mind instead? If you're carrying
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pictures of chairman Mao, you ain't going to make it with anyone. Anyhow, don't you know, it's going
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to be all right. I think we're at this point again. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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You can subscribe on iTunes. Thanks. Don't they get it? This only helps Donald Trump. This only
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helps him. Maybe that's their goal. Maybe they act like it's their goal. I know they just they don't
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get how far out of touch they are. They just we're not America's not buying into your definition of
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racism. This is not because it's I got news for you. A new definition of racism. We all knew what
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racists were for a very long time. You can spot them a million miles away. All right.
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So let's let's go to a new poll first before we reveal the the most racist president that's that's
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holding Donald Trump back from being being the most racist president himself ever all time.
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It's fascinating. I mean, because journalists are using this. They are saying these comments are
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racist like they're saying they're in English, right? Like it's an absolute fact that everyone
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understands. Yeah. And anytime you say to anyone that they should go back to another country,
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that means you're racist. Despite the fact that, of course, you know, we brought up the example of
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Piers Morgan that we have maybe occasionally mentioned, maybe a lot are, you know, the
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fundamental, you know, concepts of our Constitution so much, perhaps he would go back to England.
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Right. And stop bothering us. You racist. Why do you hate white people so much? Exactly. I mean,
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it's just it's and this is the thing I think fundamentally, which what happens with Donald
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Trump, which is when Donald Trump disagrees with someone, he insults them publicly. Right.
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That is the pattern we all understand. Everyone on earth understands that's what Donald Trump does.
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When someone says something bad about him, when Justin Amash says something bad about him,
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he trashes him in public. Right. It's only when like so everyone when the person is white,
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people just say, well, he's just trashing people. He's unpresidential, whatever it is.
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When it's someone who isn't white, they say the motivation is racism.
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Now, we all know he every time someone disagrees with him, he just comes up with some insult
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against them. But it's always the motivation of Donald Trump is applied externally from
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journalists. And they say every time it happens to be a black person or Hispanic person, it must
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be racism. Maxine Waters was the same thing. They tried the same thing with Maxine Waters.
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So, you know, you can certainly make an argument that you think he's motivated by racism. Make your
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case. That's fine. However, a journalist should not be just applying this like you're saying,
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Donald Trump tweeted something in English yesterday. It's not that is not the same
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thing. You are applying a motivation. You are reading his mind as to what you think caused this
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problem. And that is not something you're supposed to do as a journalist. But I love this part of
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this. This is USA Today. All right. They do a poll. Now, what is the issue here? What's the problem
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with these tweets if you are in the media? What you're saying is, right, that Donald Trump is saying
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the comments made, the criticisms made by these four congresswomen are essentially un-American.
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They should leave. They're so critical of this country. They hate it so much. They're against
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America. They're un-American. They should leave. Right. That's that is what he said. And that's
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what the problem is. They're saying, well, you can't say his criticism. The criticism is un-American.
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How dare you say that? You want them to leave? Here is how they do a poll about Donald Trump's
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tweets. This is it. President Trump's tweets calling on four Democratic congresswomen to go
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back to their original countries instead of criticizing the United States were un-American.
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Do you agree? The whole controversy is you're mad at Donald Trump for saying someone else's opinion
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is un-American. And you poll them asking if Donald Trump's criticisms are un-American. You're doing the
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exact same thing you're accusing him of. The exact same thing. I am so every day I become more and
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more confident that they're just, let him go. Let him go. They're just destroying themselves.
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Yeah. I mean, you just can't care about this stuff, I guess. I do get, when it comes down to
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rewriting history, though, I get a little offended. Well, now you can't say that they're doing that.
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I can. A Pulitzer Prize winning historian. Historian. His name is John Meacham. He was on
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MSNBC. Yeah. And he is now saying there's a tie at number one for the most racist president in
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American history. So it's got to be Jackson, Andrew Jackson. You know, the whole, you know,
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bloody, you know, bloody, bloody tears, you know, veil of, or what it was, a trail of tears,
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that whole thing. Could be either Jackson. I would vote for Wilson. I knew you would vote for
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Wilson, of course. So what does he say? Which one? But it was Andrew Johnson. Andrew Johnson
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was the number one tie. So not Jackson and not Wilson. Andrew Johnson? Johnson said that in a state
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message that African Americans were incapable of self-government and relapsed into barbarism if
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they weren't closely supervised. That sounds pretty darn racist. But I don't know if I would
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bring back the KKK in the 20th century. Right. I mean, right. I mean, Wilson, here's how bad
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Wilson was. You ready for this? He resegregated the government. Okay. One, let's just put this into
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perspective. I'm not defending Johnson at all. I don't know much about Johnson. I know he was the
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first president to be impeached. He was horrible. I know Abraham Lincoln hated him. That's as far as
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I've gone on Johnson. So he might turn out to be a horrible, horrible racist as well. My guess is
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a pretty bad comment. Yeah. My guess is he was. However, put that into the context of, of his time.
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Um, okay. One of the things that all abolitionists, uh, had to deal with were people who were on their
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side, but they said, um, they're going to kill us. Okay. How do we, can we, can we put them on
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ships and send them someplace else? Because, uh, we've been really bad to them and they're going to
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kill us. That was one of them. The other was the more compassionate. They've never had to do
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anything other than exactly what they've been told for generations. How are they going to build a
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society and live in a society when we've torn apart their families? When we've, we've, we've put them
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in these little communities where they have no control. This might be the most cruel thing you could
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possibly do. So put it into the context of that's what he was maybe saying. He may have been just
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out and out racist, but the actual argument at the time, which maybe he was just going in for and
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trying to make it. And he was really a undercover racist. Um, and he was only saying this to reflect
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what thoughtful people were thinking at the time. Uh, but let's compare that. Let's just say that's,
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he meant it as they're inferior. Woodrow Wilson. This is just one on his hit parade. Woodrow Wilson
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actually, actually re segregated the government. Okay. So we weren't segregated. You had postmaster
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generals and people that were working side by side in the government, black, white, no problem
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until Woodrow Wilson. Woodrow, Woodrow Wilson then re segregated. But there was one office and I don't
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remember what it was. There was one office. It might've been in the mail service where he couldn't
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segregate the blacks and the whites. There was this one guy whose job had to be done in this office with
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all the other whites. Okay. You know, this story, I know where you're going on this one. He built a
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cage around that employee. Okay. He wanted to make sure that that guy was segregated. And so they
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built a cage for that employee that he had to stay in all the time. They called them screens.
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There were screens around that employee. Okay. All right. Sure. Screen the blackness from the
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employees. Also, he said that segregation is not a humiliation, but a benefit and ought to be so
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regarded by you gentlemen. Well, there you go. Oh, it's not a big deal. Now, I think that that's
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what's remarkable about Wilson and why, you know, like for example, Wilson didn't, wasn't as big a
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government guy as many people who came after him, but he changed, he went against the grain,
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right? He was going the other direction. Right. And the same thing with race. Like we were,
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we were slowly advancing, uh, past the racial, you know, horrific mistakes of the past.
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And he said, you know what? Let me jam on the brakes, throw the thing into an emergency brake,
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spin the car around and start driving the opposite direction. That's really hard to do.
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He did it. And he did it as fast as, uh, as you know, you watching mission impossible when Tom
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Cruz pulls up the handbrake and he's going 60 miles an hour and he spins around and he's going
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the other direction at 60 miles an hour. That's how fast he did it. This guy was an outrage. He's
00:28:26.380
responsible for the reinstitution of the clan of the clan. Think about that. The clan goes away and
00:28:33.160
he's like, yeah, let's bring it back. Brings into the white house. Uh, the movie that essentially
00:28:37.600
relaunches the clan based on his writings, his book. I mean, like this is a guy, Wilson to me,
00:28:44.500
uh, blatantly is the most racist president because he broke the mold of the time. He it's,
00:28:51.860
it's, it's a difficult thing. He didn't, but he didn't in some ways, in some ways. Well,
00:28:56.200
he was with the, certainly the progressive, uh, movement at the time was incredibly racist.
00:29:01.320
Correct. But I will say the, the inertia of the time. Yeah. Right. Everything was going,
00:29:06.240
the people were going one direction, but the, the, the brainiacs, the, uh, you know,
00:29:13.800
the leather patch jacket, the scientists, the scientists, do you know, do you know what
00:29:18.520
origin of the species? Look this up. Oh yeah. The real title. Yeah. You told me about this
00:29:23.080
at the museum. Is that the museum? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, it is the full title
00:29:26.940
of it is a little revealing. Yeah. Uh, let's see. Origin of the species. Thank God we have this
00:29:35.260
now. Okay. So let me see if it's even on this. It is. I, I, when you talked about it the other
00:29:39.540
day, I searched for it. It is, it's a, yeah, here I have it here. You have it. Uh, origin of the
00:29:44.260
species. This is the Charles Darwin book. Or the subtitle or, of course, it's a little blurry
00:29:51.460
here. So, uh, hold on one second. It's helpful. Thank you, internet. Thank you for that. Okay.
00:29:56.760
Uh, or origin of the species by means of natural selection, right? Or the preservation of favored
00:30:04.360
races in the struggle for life. Okay. So now here, I just want you to put this into perspective,
00:30:09.560
what the founders were saying and, and what people were saying at the time was, look, they don't have
00:30:17.040
a society that we recognize. Okay. We have built this society. They were dumb. They were wrong.
00:30:24.480
And we don't recognize that as, as really civilization. I mean, they're living in the
00:30:30.420
jungles and they're, they're hunting with spears, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So they don't recognize
00:30:35.360
that as at the same level. Remember, this is 200, 300 years ago. So they were having this conversation
00:30:42.940
of, all right, so are they fully developed or not? What is the deal? Lincoln and people like John
00:30:51.980
Quincy Adams and yes, Thomas Jefferson, they all said, no, no, no, they are men. Um, but we don't
00:30:59.240
know that Jefferson, I don't know what's going to happen. If we release them now, we have to have a
00:31:03.300
full plan here. I have to have a full plan. Lincoln said they are men fully men, but then origin of the
00:31:10.260
species happens. And this is where the racists all flock. No, it's scientific proof. Now that there
00:31:18.760
is a favored species or a favored, uh, race. There was a consensus on, yes, it's a consensus
00:31:25.720
and science is now proving it that there is a superior race. And in origin of the species,
00:31:33.620
basically he's saying, you know what you should do is just, we have to take the Africans and put them
00:31:39.140
back into Africa, put them back in the oven, let them bake a little longer so they can really become
00:31:44.260
fully human because that's where the monkey image comes from. Origin of the species.
00:31:51.200
They're not fully human. See, we all evolved from monkeys, but they're not there. They're not there.
00:31:56.540
That was the argument by Darwin and so many others. Right. That's what, that's why, uh, Woodrow
00:32:02.800
Wilson in his book has all the African-Americans look like monkeys. That's all that's, that comes
00:32:09.400
from. And, and Donald Trump beats that guy. That's insanity. It's insanity. This, this historian
00:32:18.280
ought to be ashamed of himself. Absolutely ashamed of himself.
00:32:30.460
It's Glenn. And you're listening to the Glenn Beck program. If you like what you're hearing on this
00:32:34.720
show, make sure you check out Pat Gray Unleashed. It's available wherever you download your favorite
00:32:40.400
podcasts. Ezra Levant is joining us. He is the founder of rebelmedia.com rebelmedia, also the host
00:32:47.560
of Ezra, the Ezra Levant show. Uh, he's been on the program with us, uh, several times. Uh, he was
00:32:53.720
involved in another media group, if I'm not mistaken, uh, with, um, a good friend of ours. Anyway, um,
00:33:02.700
I wanted to have Ezra on because there's a story about this guy named Tommy Robinson. Tommy is a guy
00:33:10.500
who has been a guy who is speaking out about what's happening in England, especially with this,
00:33:18.700
this sex ring that the government of great Britain has covered up like nobody's business. When you read
00:33:25.560
about this sex ring, even from sources like the BBC, you see, wow, is this really bad? And a lot of
00:33:34.620
people are running for cover now. He's being, he's been, uh, he's facing jail time, uh, for things
00:33:41.720
that he says, uh, we're not really crimes. He's being politically persecuted. He's asking for, uh,
00:33:48.240
asylum here in the United States, wants Donald Trump to, to grant him asylum. I've read all kinds
00:33:54.140
of things, even from the blaze. I read something last week that I read and I thought, wow, that's
00:33:58.660
really bad, but that's not what I've heard from other sources. Uh, and I don't know. I've tried to get
00:34:04.220
Tommy Robinson on this program, uh, because I think we just need to ask questions and then hear it
00:34:10.280
from him. I don't trust any, anybody or any source anymore. I want to hear it myself. Now, a guy who's
00:34:17.920
been a very good friend of his for a long time is Ezra Levant. So we thought we would get him on the
00:34:22.860
phone and, uh, get his look at who Tommy Robinson is. Hi, Ezra. How are you? I'm great. Thanks for the
00:34:30.060
opportunity, Glenn. Sure. Tommy Robinson's a really colorful character. I mean, let's be candid. He's,
00:34:35.240
he's not the kind of guy that political pundits like you and me are used to dealing with. He grew
00:34:40.220
up, uh, very working class in a poor city called Luton. And when he was young, he was a bit of a
00:34:46.600
soccer hooligan. But over the course of time, he's become, I think, unwillingly at first, a political
00:34:53.980
activist as Luton became Islamified through mass immigration. He saw the changes to it. But I think
00:35:02.160
what really animates him these days is a phenomenon we don't have in Canada, the United States yet,
00:35:08.760
thank God. And it's these rape gangs. And this is not like rape as you and I might conceive it.
00:35:16.140
Someone's grabbed into a dark alley, raped, and then the rapist runs off. These are gangs of men
00:35:22.840
who trick and trap and exploit girls as young as 11. And then they rape them every night for years
00:35:32.060
and for years. And let me give you an example. There's a city called Rotherham in the UK, 250,000
00:35:39.400
population, small city, 1,400 girls, 1,400 girls were raped continuously for a decade before police
00:35:51.940
prosecuted it. And I know that sounds unthinkable. How could that be? Everyone must have known 1,400
00:35:58.780
girls in a city of 250,000. How could it go on for a decade? Well, there was a government inquiry into
00:36:05.540
it. And you know what the answer was, Glenn? Because the rapists were overwhelmingly Muslim Pakistani men,
00:36:13.160
no one wanted to talk about it. They were all afraid they'd be called Islamophobic or racist.
00:36:18.020
So social workers, doctors, police, press, politicians, they all shut up about it because
00:36:25.740
they thought this rape is pretty bad, but I don't want to be called a racist.
00:36:30.220
Right. And this is very well documented. If you're first hearing this, this is very well documented,
00:36:36.180
even by sources that would never want to be called Islamophobe. I mean, BBC has even documented
00:36:43.700
this particular case. It's horrible what's going on. Well, and that's just one city,
00:36:49.620
cities and towns all across the UK. So fast forward to last May, Tommy was standing outside
00:36:56.400
a courthouse in Leeds, where a 29 person gang was on trial for raping girls as young as 11.
00:37:04.840
And I say again, Glenn, and I know this is hard for your listeners to hear. These girls aren't just
00:37:09.140
raped once. They're raped every night by these gangs of men. And in this case, bizarrely,
00:37:16.200
there were two women who were involved. So the trial was over. The jury had finished their
00:37:23.560
deliberations. It was judgment day. Tommy, who was an independent journalist, he used to work with me
00:37:31.160
before, but then by this point, he was independent. He was standing outside the courthouse,
00:37:35.100
live streaming on Facebook, his commentary on this phenomenon. So he was standing outside the
00:37:41.940
court. It was about 830 in the morning. And as the accused rapists were going into court,
00:37:47.580
he called out to them. And he said this, quote, how do you feel about your verdict today?
00:37:54.740
That's what he said. How do you feel about your verdict today? He didn't swear at them. He didn't
00:38:00.720
insult them. He did not impede their access to the court. He filmed himself saying that. And the
00:38:06.280
three or four men he talked to, they swore at him. They insulted his wife. They insulted his mother.
00:38:11.620
And that's it, Glenn. That's it. And seven police swooped in. And you can see this on YouTube.
00:38:21.760
Okay. So now I saw this and I was perplexed by it, but it is fair to point out that the English laws are
00:38:30.500
different than the American or Canadian laws. That is against the law. He knew he was breaking a law by
00:38:37.240
Well, the thing is, he didn't report on any goings on in the trial. He didn't know what was going on in
00:38:44.000
the trial. He hadn't been in the trial. Now, I'll come back to your point in a second,
00:38:48.680
because that's what they, they said he was in contempt of court. And I've just described what
00:38:54.280
he did. He didn't go into the court. He didn't say what was happening in the trial. He didn't know
00:38:59.600
he hadn't been in. He was talking about the general phenomenon and he read out the names of some of the
00:39:06.640
29 accused and he read it off of the BBC website and other websites just that day. He just, he, I suppose
00:39:15.020
he assumed if the state broadcaster of the United Kingdom, the BBC has the names of these 29 accused
00:39:20.980
and if they're publishing them, he thought he could read them. And in fact, uh, and so he did,
00:39:26.820
I'll, I'll, I'll hurry up my story, Glenn, cause I know we're short on time.
00:39:32.020
So he was put in the back of a paddy wagon, taken to the judge in a trial that lasted less than 10
00:39:39.640
minutes. He was found in contempt of court. He never said a word in this trial, by the way,
00:39:44.600
his live stream was about 75 minutes long. Obviously the judge didn't review a 75 minute
00:39:52.020
live stream in 10 minutes, right? They finished this drumhead trial in 10 minutes because it was
00:39:59.060
almost lunchtime. Glenn is crazy. And they had to go for lunch and they sent him to prison
00:40:04.820
for a 13 month sentence. Uh, he was the first journalist in nearly a century to be in prison
00:40:14.940
for contempt of court. And guess what? They sent him to a prison with a high Muslim population.
00:40:23.880
They moved him from a safe prison where he was in a ward by himself to a very dangerous prison called
00:40:31.000
Onley. So the prison governor said, the warden said, well, you know, I hate to do it to you,
00:40:36.380
but for your own safety, we've got to put you in solitary confinement. Oh, it sucks to be you.
00:40:41.540
And so for 10 weeks, he lived in a box for 23 and a half hours a day for contempt of court. Now
00:40:51.720
we crowdfunded his appeal. The court of appeal throughout this conviction said it was done improperly
00:40:58.500
for about 10 reasons and freedom from prison. After 10 weeks in solitary confinement, the court of
00:41:05.140
appeal said everything about it was improper, but the attorney general prosecuted him a second time,
00:41:11.440
a do over for the same offense. And last week they sent him away for nine months. Glenn now he gets
00:41:19.960
some credit for time served, but right now, Tommy Robinson is in Belmarsh prison, the special prison
00:41:27.340
for terrorists and murderers. He's in isolation in Belmarsh prison, serving a portion of a nine
00:41:35.580
month trial, a nine month sentence for doing what I just said he did for saying, how do you feel
00:41:42.220
about the verdict today? He's in prison, Glenn. All right. So Ezra, is there any way to speak to him
00:41:50.600
from prison? People can send him an email. Okay, but I don't think an email back. I can't. So we
00:41:59.800
him on Tuesday, Glenn, and I'll tell him you're interested in talking. But yeah, I want to give
00:42:04.020
him a I want to give him a fair trial. And what really bothers me about this is that Facebook now
00:42:10.000
will ban you if you if you if you are defending him or, you know, playing anything from him, you will
00:42:19.220
be banned from Facebook. I don't like that. I want to make my own decision. And I've heard some things
00:42:25.260
from his past, etc. And I'd like to hear his version. I'm tired of hearing secondhand versions.
00:42:31.380
And I would like to give him a fair hearing, because if, if he's being wronged, it is incumbent
00:42:39.220
upon all of us to to stand up for him. He might be a dicey guy that you're like, well, I don't know.
00:42:46.140
I mean, it's kind of a little way this way and a little way that and people can make their own
00:42:50.560
decisions. But he's being made. He's being disappeared. And that can't happen.
00:42:56.480
Is he used to have a million followers on Facebook and nearly a million on Twitter,
00:43:03.080
so he could respond to the criticisms of him. But they silenced him. So it's fallen to his
00:43:10.000
surrogates and his friends. Now, Glenn, if you like, I can address some of the criticisms in that
00:43:15.380
blaze article. They point out that he has a history going back 15 years of petty crimes and other
00:43:24.360
offenses. For example, when he was 21, he was in a he got into a fistfight with an off duty cop.
00:43:31.200
And that's always a bad idea. And so he was he was convicted and sentenced to jail.
00:43:37.080
Absolutely true. When 15 years ago, and if you read his autobiography, it was the worst decision of
00:43:44.840
his life, punching that cop. He didn't know it was a cop. So yeah, if Tommy is a flawed man,
00:43:51.520
obviously, as we all are. But I've gotten to know him over the years. And he's a character. And you
00:43:57.960
know, he's, he's not from the walks of life you and I are from when he's very working class, which in
00:44:04.200
the UK, has a certain meaning people look down on him and people like him. And that's one of the
00:44:09.800
problems is that the more posh classes of society in the UK, well, it's not their daughters who are
00:44:16.400
being raped by these grooming gangs. It's the working class indigenous white girls.
00:44:22.080
You know, that that's no one cares about Tommy is a is a voice for the working class. And yeah,
00:44:28.540
that's going to mean he's not, he's not a perfect, you know, polished, you know, he doesn't know which
00:44:33.940
fork, you know, if he dined with no, no, no, I, you know, I didn't understand this until I started
00:44:40.080
working with my new assistant, who was one of my protectors for a long time. His name is Craig
00:44:48.020
Poole. And he is from Scotland. And he was working class, working class. And people do not understand
00:44:55.460
the class distinction here in America. We think we do. But we really don't. So I do get it. I tell you
00:45:02.940
what, Ezra, I'd love to do a podcast where we could address all of these things one by one,
00:45:11.120
because there are some other things that that need explaining and need answers to because the case,
00:45:19.380
it goes both ways. And I don't honestly know what the truth is. If you can line something up with him,
00:45:26.340
I would love to do an extended interview with him where we can go through these. I am not hostile to him.
00:45:31.840
I know the blaze article, but that wasn't written by me. And I don't approve the articles on the
00:45:35.920
blaze. I was on the air that day saying, I don't know which way to go on this guy. And the blaze
00:45:42.320
decided, well, we do. But I don't know if I agree with them. They brought up some good points. But I
00:45:48.380
also think there's some fair points on the other side that I'd like to hear from him.
00:45:53.660
I'll get your contact info from your producer, right? I'm going to see him in prison on Tuesday. And if he
00:45:59.340
has the ability to phone out of prison, I will encourage him to talk to you because he's his
00:46:04.360
own best advocate. And if not, maybe I can write to him and he can write answers back and you can
00:46:10.960
get them to me. That's a really good idea. Thanks very much, Glenn, for giving me the chance to make
00:46:15.880
his point. You bet. Thank you very much. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:46:30.020
Now I speak my mind. This is one of the keys in this story is, is actually saying things out loud.
00:46:40.360
Uh, there it's, it helps. It solves a lot of problems. Uh, David Mellor is the author of the
00:46:48.080
new book, one base at a time. It is one of my favorite stories. In fact, years ago, we, we bought
00:46:54.120
this story. We were going to do a book and, and other things with it. Cause I just find it so
00:46:58.340
inspirational. We never got around to it. And I was feeling so guilty. Uh, I'm like, you gotta hear
00:47:04.560
this story. So he wrote the book one base at a time. I now don't get a dime off it. Um, but I
00:47:12.460
want to promote it because it's one of the best stories I've ever heard. Uh, David, welcome to
00:47:17.440
the program. How are you? Great morning to you, Mr. Beck. Thank you so much for all your support.
00:47:23.320
You bet. You bet. I'm sorry. It's taken us so long to get to this point. Um, I want you to tell
00:47:29.080
the story and don't jump ahead. I want you to really lay the story out, uh, and, and start
00:47:35.480
with you when you're, you're young and you want to be a major league baseball pitcher.
00:47:41.760
Yes, sir. Um, you know, my dream was to make it to the majors. My grandfather played in the
00:47:48.040
majors in 1902. And my dream was to follow in his footsteps. I played baseball, uh, throughout
00:47:54.660
high school and had opportunities to play baseball in college with scholarships. And a month after I
00:48:00.260
got out of high school, I was walking into a McDonald's restaurant and, uh, a car pulled
00:48:07.180
in off the side of the sidewalk off the street and stopped and they got out and changed drivers.
00:48:12.340
So I stopped and, uh, while they changed drivers, I waited for them. They got back in the car and
00:48:18.620
I motioned for them to go ahead and drive and they motioned for me to start walking.
00:48:24.400
And so, uh, I started walking and I heard them rev their engine and squeal their tires.
00:48:31.220
So I had time to turn and look and the car was speeding toward me and I raised my left hand and
00:48:38.860
my left leg in the car hit me, threw me 20 feet in the air. I slammed into the brick wall right where
00:48:46.480
the door jutted out at McDonald's. And as soon as I looked up, the car was speeding at a higher rate
00:48:53.120
of speed and hit me a second time, pinning the handrail and the car bumper against my knee against
00:48:59.700
the wall. Oh my gosh. What, what, who were these guys? Well, this, this lady said she stepped on the
00:49:06.540
gas instead of the brake. And, uh, she, uh, you know, it was literally one of those moments where,
00:49:14.360
you know, your life flashes in front of your eyes. You know, I thought not only is my leg
00:49:19.340
crushed, I thought my dreams were crushed because, you know, I grew up a Red Sox fanatic. My dream was
00:49:24.820
to, to make it to the majors and someday stand on Fenway Park's Mount. You know, I thought at the
00:49:30.200
time I would, you know, go to college on a scholarship, study some kind of business in school.
00:49:36.860
And I didn't even know what that meant. I just hoped I would get drafted and make it to the majors.
00:49:41.440
And when I was hit, it literally, uh, was a moment that at first I became, you know, a really upset,
00:49:52.600
angry 18 year old kid. And my dad died when I was three and my mom and two brothers helped raise me.
00:49:59.020
And they inspired me throughout my life that adversity makes you stronger. And they inspired me
00:50:05.560
to look at that moment as an opportunity and a learning opportunity inspired me to find a career
00:50:12.620
that I would love to do. So, and not dwell. Yes, sir. Go ahead. And not dwell on the past,
00:50:19.620
but let me, let me go before you, before you move forward. How many surgeries did you have to have?
00:50:24.580
What did the doctors say when you were taken? And, and then this woman didn't pay any price.
00:50:30.240
I would imagine she didn't go to jail or anything. No, sir. She did not go to jail. Um, she was a,
00:50:36.440
she was a part-time stripper. Um, did not have, uh, uh, insurance. Um, they, um, um, I walked on
00:50:46.560
crutches for two and a half years. I walked with a cane for 10 months, uh, during physical therapy,
00:50:51.860
had a horrific injury in physical therapy. Um, I've actually had 45 surgeries and I figured that's
00:50:58.780
better than 46. Um, I've been hit by a car three times and three, that's better than four.
00:51:03.560
I think I'm one of the lucky people in the world. Wait, wait, wait, wait. So you just drop these
00:51:07.300
things out. You just drop these things out. You've been hit the first time. When were you hit a second
00:51:14.540
time? Well, the second time was actually at McDonald's. The car came at a higher rate of
00:51:19.680
speed. Wait, wait. Okay. Okay. That's the same incident. Okay. So you were hit there. Then you were hit a
00:51:25.640
second time. Okay. The third time you were hit. Yes, sir. I was working for the Milwaukee Brewers
00:51:31.900
in 1995. And we had, uh, uh, just taken all the sod off of the, of the field at County Stadium
00:51:40.640
and, and graded all the top soil. And we were waiting for the sod to arrive. And I heard a car
00:51:48.000
behind the bleachers and I was out in the left field area near where the left fielder stood
00:51:53.160
raking around an irrigation head. And because of, uh, the car accident, I was very hypersensitive
00:52:00.900
to car noises. And I heard this car and I thought, that's odd. Why do I hear a car? And I turned
00:52:06.860
around, there was a field entrance gate behind the left fielder's position. And when I looked,
00:52:12.260
there was a car coming from behind the bleachers toward the field. So I ran over to where the warning
00:52:17.480
track met the open field gate and put my arms up and the lady, uh, smiled as big as she could
00:52:24.340
and stepped on the gas and came right at me and hit me. And I hit the windshield and landed
00:52:29.760
in a pile at the base of the outfield wall pads at the gate, at the open gate. And she went speeding
00:52:36.440
down the warning track, following the curve of the track. She was going so fast when she went behind
00:52:42.420
home plate that she made a dust cloud kind of a rooster's tail, throwing track material 10 rows
00:52:48.680
up into the stands. And a couple of the groundskeepers came over to ask me what they could do to help. And
00:52:54.340
I asked them to call 911 and behind the bleachers, we had big steel security gates. So I asked them to
00:53:02.160
close those up so she couldn't get away. And as I was laying on the track, she made a full lap around
00:53:08.480
the field. And instead of following the curve of the grass as she had before, as she got closer to
00:53:14.380
me, she's beard and started aiming right at me to your God. I thought, Oh my gosh, she's literally
00:53:20.720
going to run me over again. And at the last minute, she swerved to miss me and slammed on the brakes and
00:53:27.100
stopped right beside me, sat up in her seat, waved excessively at me, smiling, and then stepped on the gas,
00:53:35.240
sat back down, stepped on the gas and peeled out, covered me in track material and drove through the
00:53:40.360
gate behind the bleachers. Okay. Okay. All right. Before we get into this, please tell me she went
00:53:45.540
to jail. Well, she was, she did not go to jail. She went to a mental hospital. You know, I pulled
00:53:54.440
myself up against the wall pads and got behind the bleachers. And she was out of her car screaming at
00:54:00.080
the guard to let her out. And every other word was a cuss word. And I noticed her car was still
00:54:05.280
running. And so I went over and took the keys out of her ignition. And she came over and yelling and
00:54:11.760
cussing and spitting in my face to give her her keys. And I said, I'm sorry, ma'am, I can't do that.
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So she got in her car and locked the doors. And when the deputies came, I gave them the keys. And
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when they unlocked the door, she tried to stab the deputies. And they got her out of the car and put
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her in the back of the squad car and asked her why she was there. And she said she was there to
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do a stunt for a movie. And, uh, as a result, they took her to the county mental hospital instead of
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the jail. This was on a Thursday. And on Sunday evening, I received a phone call. Uh, they would
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like me to come testify. Otherwise they were going to let her go on Sunday. So when I went to the court,
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the hospital mental hospital on Monday, there was regular courtroom in the hospital,
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her attorney was there and she waived her rights to appear in person. She was in a straight jacket
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in her own, in her room. And the deputy testified, I testified, and the doctor testified, but she had
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a past history with mental illness. 1991, she arrested, she was arrested in Florida for stalking
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Julio Iglesias. 1993. She was arrested on international charges, threatening the queen of
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England. And the night before she did this at County stadium, she had tried to assault Oprah
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in Chicago, but she got away. But Oprah's security staff got a picture of her in her license plate.
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But because of her rights as a mental patient in the state of Wisconsin, all they could do is sign
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her up for a retest of her driver's license. Oh my God. And she got to pick the date and the time
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of the test. And the doctor said, if she took her medicine in the morning, she'd be able to pass the
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test in the afternoon. Okay. So David, I'm going to take a rest here for just a second because your
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story is not done and it becomes really, uh, hopeful here soon. Not too soon, but soon. Uh, and you have to
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hear this. It is, um, his story is written in a new book now called one base at a time. It is
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truly a great book. If you're a baseball lover, if you're, if you're anybody who has ever had any
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problems or PTSD, imagine the PTSD, this guy's had, you would be, I mean, just the, the movie poster
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for Christine would have made me wet my pants. Um, but we'll continue his story here in the blaze radio