Glenn and Stu are joined by Dr. Stephen Moore to discuss the latest in the Global Monkeypox Epidemic and why Glenn should be inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame. They also discuss the growing problem of sex between men and the monkeypox virus.
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00:03:42.520Since the outset of the global monkey pox outbreak in May, public health and infectious disease experts have told the public that the virus is largely transmitting through skin-to-skin contact.
00:03:52.660In particular, during sex between men.
00:03:56.840Now, however, an expanding cadre of experts have come to believe that sex between men itself is likely the main driver of the global monkey pox transmission.
00:04:38.840A growing body of scientific evidence, follow the science, including a trio of studies published in peer-reviewed journals, so you know you can trust it, as well as reports from national, regional, and global health authorities.
00:05:15.380They didn't want to say that it could come from sex, actual sex.
00:05:20.540And part of it you can understand because you didn't want to do that with HIV because HIV, remember, it became a gay thing and it wasn't a gay thing.
00:05:30.480I mean, you could get it through blood, et cetera, et cetera.
00:05:33.960So they didn't want to make monkey pox a gay thing.
00:05:38.140Well, that and they also wanted to be politically correct.
00:05:42.640I mean, if they didn't want to make it a gay thing, they should have also said, just said, you know what?
00:05:48.740But it's happening in the homosexual community by and large, and so you should just avoid, you know, the orgies and the bath spas and stuff like that.
00:16:07.020So, I would imagine there was a time in your life, probably fairly recently, that the last person you would have thought you would be talking to is me.
00:16:21.020I mean, especially because I've been a conservative activist for quite a little bit now, but I never expected to really speak out of my story until 2019, when my friend got beat up at Berkeley.
00:16:31.540Uh, he's the one who President Trump invited at CPAC back in 2019, and, you know, I was his, uh, we're best friends, and I started realizing just how horrible campus violence was getting.
00:16:42.140I just left this violence in general, and I decided that I really needed to speak out about my experience with anarchists and the Antifa movement.
00:16:49.540So, I've been doing that for about three years now.
00:17:09.260So, I, I first got involved in, like, punk music, because, uh, there's a huge connection in the 1980s and 90s with Antifa and the anarchist, uh, punk music.
00:17:18.780So, in 2011, I was into that, and I just went to a protest.
00:17:22.220I just went because I wanted to be involved, and somebody in the black mask, you know, came up to me, and he asked me if I wanted to join him and his friends.
00:17:32.600And for about a year and a half, I was participating in direct action.
00:17:35.180I was part of the Occupy protest in Los Angeles, the animal rights demonstrations, all of that from 2011 to 2012.
00:17:43.500And, you know, we just, it was all about creating havoc to really oppose the American system that we thought was the most fascist system out there.
00:17:50.400And, uh, what was the pivot point with you?
00:17:55.560What was the point where you went, wow, I, I, I shouldn't be here.
00:18:00.260You know, it's actually kind of interesting, because there's never been one point where I say, like, wow, you guys are bad.
00:18:06.040It was a slow transition, but I also think that it was inevitable, because I'm a very curious person.
00:18:10.920I'm always, I always want to hear what the other has, has to say.
00:18:15.700And, you know, at the time I was a leftist, so I started reading about Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell.
00:18:20.780Well, these are great authors, but at the time, I didn't like them.
00:18:24.460But I found them interesting enough that I wanted to grab their ideas, talked about them with my friends.
00:18:28.240And, well, guess what, just for asking questions about these ideas, that was the very first time I was called a capitalist pig.
00:18:35.560And it just made me realize that some of these people didn't even care about, like, the actual ideologies.
00:18:39.600They just wanted to promote this propaganda of, like, us versus them, like the fascist system.
00:18:46.100But they're just full of themselves, because they don't really, or they're not really looking to build a better society.
00:18:52.020They're just really looking for control.
00:18:54.680And slowly and surely, I started reading, learning more about conservative movements, and then I slowly became conservative.
00:19:02.620And, you know, to this day, I'm still very much the same person.
00:19:05.800That's why I have that bachelor's degree in social justice essentials, because I still want to learn what the other guy says.
00:19:12.380But let me tell you, the more I learn about leftist ideology, the more it makes me realize just how wrong they are and just how much I love America.
00:19:22.020So, this is a remarkable turn in an individual.
00:19:27.280First of all, have you ever had the chance to meet Daniel Horowitz?
00:19:39.940I didn't meet him while I was in the movement, but somebody in Antifa who also left, he's in his 40s now, about 20 years before I was involved, he was involved.
00:19:49.380And he told me that one of his first protests was to protest David Horowitz and free speech.
00:20:07.400He was all for it until we withdrew from Vietnam and everything that the right was saying would happen if you leave a power vacuum happened.
00:20:19.500And he said he realized none of his friends or, you know, comrades actually cared about the people.
00:20:27.160He was like, but wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:21:03.740They'll keep moving the goalposts time and time again because, again, all they want is just control of your life and control of everyone.
00:21:10.160So tell me, how much of the movement was like you where, I mean, it sounds like you kind of joined because you wanted to belong to something.
00:21:23.420And you kind of got wrapped up into it, and it taught you the hatred and the problems.
00:21:34.400But you really weren't – it doesn't sound to me like you were really rooted in it.
00:21:42.800Well, in part, because Antifa didn't teach me to hate America.
00:21:46.140But I got to say, like, growing up in the K-12 system, public education, it really preconditioned me to hate America before I even got involved with the anarchist groups.
00:21:56.640Because let me just tell you, there was a biology teacher in my middle school who would love to yell at the top of his lungs about not biology but about atheism.
00:22:05.760And one day, I remember he was yelling about how proud he was of his sons for being raised atheists.
00:22:11.540And, of course, people who believe in God are freaking – sorry about this – that he said stupid.
00:22:16.380And I was like, dude, that's our parents.
00:22:22.060I was just kind of like, okay, I guess.
00:22:23.900I should just kind of keep my mouth shut.
00:22:25.700You know, those are the kind of things, the kind of teachers that really turned me into hating America because I was indoctrinated into believing that everything that my parents taught me,
00:22:35.260everything that society is telling me is good is not.
00:22:37.880Because you have these ultra-leftist teachers who think that their job is to tell students what to think, not how to think.
00:22:46.020So have you read much Martin Luther King?
00:22:50.200I've read one of his books and a few different of his speeches.
00:23:16.940Now, I believe there are people that will never change.
00:23:19.900And I can't reconcile with somebody who really believes burn the entire country down and America is horrible and the Constitution and everything else.
00:23:28.560I don't know how to reconcile with that person, and I don't think we can.
00:23:33.060However, there are people that are like you, I think, that if we could find a way to actually have a conversation that we could reconcile, not with everybody, with some.
00:23:48.700Well, you know, the exciting part is what I'm doing right now.
00:23:53.780I'm working for an organization called Our America.
00:24:17.380They think that America is the greatest country on earth.
00:24:20.900We're talking about 70%, 80%, 90% of the issues people agree with.
00:24:24.640The problem is that you have a tiny minority of radicals that have infiltrated legacy media and a lot of something mainstream issues, and they pretend that they're the majority, but they're not.
00:24:36.440Every time you hear partisan or ultra-partisan or issues that divide people, look at the research.
00:24:43.500It shows that only about 10 to 15, maybe 25% of people support it.
00:24:48.140One of the best issues, I think, is defund the police.
00:24:51.240A few years ago, 2020, you would think that the entire Democratic Party and basically the majority of the country believed in defunding the police.
00:24:59.740But again, research shows 20-some percent of people actually support defunding the police.
00:25:06.020And something like 70-some percent of black Americans want more police officers in their neighborhoods.
00:25:11.980So that's what we're talking about in America, about bringing issues to people together.
00:25:16.240How do we, how can we do this in our own lives?
00:25:21.140And if this is true, that we actually agree on things, what are we as people missing to be able to connect with our neighbors?
00:25:29.700Because they seem to still be voting when the, when it's clear what's happening on the left is a hostile takeover of the Democratic Party, an infiltration.
00:25:41.880And they have just, it is a leftist operation now.
00:26:01.120Because some of these issues, they paint this dichotomy of like, you're either a good person when you're with us, or you're a horrible person, evil person, if you're not.
00:26:10.580And a lot of people say, well, I'm not an evil person, so I must be with you guys.
00:26:13.860So first of all, we have to call out that rhetoric, because, you know, sunlight is the best is infected.
00:26:19.960We really need to call that out, but not just call it out.
00:26:23.300We also have to actively build a community that is pro-American.
00:26:27.740And again, that's what America is trying to do, really build communities at the ground level and to really call out a lot of that toxic rhetoric and just promote great American values at the ground level.
00:26:39.760So it's not a project that's going to be done in like one, two, not even like five years.
00:27:10.460So, Gabriel, what is the what was the thing that's the first thing that you said?
00:27:16.460You know, America is kind of a good place.
00:27:20.080You know, one of the things that I love about this country is that ideal of freedom of speech, the idea that we can have heated discussions, arguments even, and then we can go home and say, yeah, I mean, we can disagree.
00:28:02.660But the idea of Antifa and the left is to silence speech because speech is dangerous, you know, and and you're a fascist if you say the wrong things.
00:28:16.820So how do you how do you approach that with somebody who is, you know, on the radical side of things?
00:28:22.820Well, you know, I've had a lot of experience talking and arguing with some of these leftists, and a lot of times they don't even know what they're saying.
00:28:30.900There is some people who are very well read, but then they extrapolate little snippets of information from some very interesting authors, and they'll just use it as a tagline.
00:28:40.320So one of the things that I often do is I actually ask them questions.
00:28:43.760I get them beyond the point of like that, like capitalism bad, like, OK, what do you mean by that?
00:28:49.620You know, and when you get into the niche of things, all of a sudden you realize that there's a lot of contradictions.
00:28:54.280I mean, that's where my degree in social justice comes into place, because one of the things that I've noticed is, for example, I tend not to use the word capitalism anymore because I was created by Marx.
00:29:04.080But also, when people talk about capitalism, you know, being, say, for example, like the responsible for slavery, I'm like, no, it wasn't.
00:29:15.800Modern capitalism was founded in 1776.
00:29:18.280The Dutch company was actually part of mercantilism, which is the precursor that capitalism came to abolish.
00:29:22.980If you look at the people who founded capitalism, like, I'm forgetting his author.
00:29:31.720Adam Smith, he actually wrote in his book that founded capitalism, how slavery was immoral and unprofitable.
00:29:39.300So, in fact, capitalism was a key factor to abolishing slavery.
00:29:43.500You know, like those, when you get into the nitty gritty of these issues and you ask them questions, they don't really have answers to many of these questions.
00:29:52.360Gabriel, you are one of my favorite people.
00:29:55.760I love people who are intellectually, they like the challenge.
00:30:00.040And it leads them to sometimes uncomfortable or surprising decisions in their life.
00:30:06.540I would love to have you join me for a podcast because I'd love to spend some, you know, more time with you and talk about it.
00:30:13.220By the way, just what do you call capitalism now instead?
00:30:16.860Oh, I just talk about the free market.
00:30:19.900Because, you know, that's what, okay, quote-unquote capitalism is about, about the idea that everyone has the equal opportunity to make the name for themselves.
00:30:28.580Gabriel Nandales, thank you so much, sir.
00:30:31.140Thank you very much for joining us and your hard work.
00:31:29.160It's, look, you know, Glenn, you and I have known each other for, what, 25, 30 years.
00:31:33.360And we've been, you know, voices for fiscal sanity.
00:31:36.640And I just want to let your listeners know that if you add up all of the spending and debt that we've incurred since Biden came into office, let's see, it started with that $1.9 trillion massive spending bill in the first month that Biden came in, which was basically a blue state bailout.
00:31:54.960Then they did the $1.1 trillion green New Deal bill.
00:31:58.220Remember, that was at the end of last year, which, by the way, some Republicans voted for.
00:32:27.900Steven said, he just tweeted, I love this tweet.
00:32:30.100He tweeted, Joe Biden has spent more money than the cost of the Louisiana Purchase, the Erie and Panama Canals, Intercontinental Railroad, the Interstate Highway System, the eradication of polio and smallpox, the GI Bill of Rights, the Marshall Plan, the moon landing, the human genome project, all combined.
00:33:06.480So, I mean, think about how much we're spending right now.
00:33:09.200Another way to put it is, you know, if you take just for inflation, the amount of money that Biden spent in 18 months is more money or no, just about exactly the amount of money that we spent to win World War II.
00:35:04.680So you may recall that three years ago, I was nominated by Donald Trump to be on the Federal Reserve Board.
00:35:12.240And three days after I was nominated, the New York Times, because they have their sleuth reporters, reported on the front page of the newspaper that Steve Moore can't be on the Federal Reserve Board because he has a $50,000 tax lien.
00:35:28.220My wife and I had been fighting the IRS for almost three years.
00:35:32.160We spent tens of thousands of dollars fighting them because we were in the right and they were in the wrong.
00:35:36.940But I am so sick and tired of these Democrats saying, gee, if you pay your taxes on time and you're honest, you have nothing to worry about.
00:35:48.400We've contended the IRS owed us money that we overpaid our taxes, underpaid it.
00:35:52.400Anyway, I had to withdraw my nomination because you can't be, you know, on a federal board like that if you have a tax lien.
00:35:59.780And you know what happened two months after that?
00:36:02.540We get a letter from the IRS saying, oh, by the way, before I tell you the end of this, I should tell you I went to two tax accountants, three tax attorneys.
00:38:42.900So, Stephen, I don't know how much you've done on ESG, but I think this is the greatest danger to the free world, not just America, but to the entire free world, free market.
00:38:54.640And, you know, their goal is, you won't own anything by 2030, 2035.
00:39:01.520They say 2030, but I think that's crazy.
00:39:03.700But if that's really your goal, especially in a country like America or in the West where ownership means something, we're built on ownership.
00:39:13.740The only way you can do that is to impoverish a nation.
00:39:34.940So, you know, you know, it's interesting because the first question I always get asked nowadays when I give a talk about, you know, Biden's ruinous agenda, and it is ruinous.
00:39:44.360I mean, I can't think of one thing that he has done right for the economy.
00:39:47.840And, you know, I'm proud of what we did under Trump.
00:39:50.420I was one of his senior economic advisors.
00:41:02.760I don't know if you heard this yesterday.
00:41:05.260Half a billion dollars from Saudi Arabia was invested in the ESG funds at BlackRock.
00:41:14.720Now, how could BlackRock say that they are for the environment and these funds are for the environment?
00:41:19.620If it's coming from Saudi Arabia, they want to tube us.
00:41:26.200I mean, that's the only explanation, really.
00:41:29.160I mean, either they're incredible fools, which would be the benign explanation, or there's something more sinister going on here.
00:41:36.200Because I guarantee you, you know, all my young, you know, my kids' friends, they're all millennials, and oh, green energy, blah, blah, blah.
00:41:42.720And I'm like, you're not going to like it so much when you stick your charger in the socket and no power comes out.
00:41:50.500And we've already seen that, by the way, in states like California.
00:41:53.700Look at what's happening in Europe, folks.
00:41:58.980I have to tell you, Stephen, I think the Mountain West, California, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Utah, Arizona, all of that, I think you are going to see real trouble in the coming years.
00:42:16.920Because they're not only talking about getting rid of all the coal power, the hydroelectric power is way, way down just because of drought situations.
00:42:26.000But they're also talking about taking the five dams off the Snake River.