The Glenn Beck Program - June 02, 2021


Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Gov. Greg Abbott & Sen. Mike Lee ｜ 6⧸2⧸21


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A massive Democratic walkout in the Texas State House of Representatives has shown the great anxiety by the Democrats. The Republicans are not sitting down and taking the massive changes in our voting system. They are standing up and fighting for what they believe will make it hard for anyone to vote other than for a Republican.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, great podcast today. We have the governor from the great state of Texas, who is, I think, has had enough.
00:00:07.220 We also will tell you about something that is happening in the Senate that you need to be aware of in really important.
00:00:15.020 The dismantling of the American system. It is absolutely happening. 0.75
00:00:21.620 This and so much more on today's podcast. Next.
00:00:30.000 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:00:40.180 There was a massive Democratic walkout in the Texas State House of Representatives, and it has it has shown the great anxiety by the Democrats.
00:00:54.060 The Republicans are not sitting down and taking the massive changes in our voting system sitting down there.
00:01:04.380 Thank God they're standing up. We changed almost everything because of covid, and it has made it really, really easy for anyone that wants to to cheat.
00:01:15.900 Governor Abbott joins us now from the great state of Texas to talk about the walkout of the the Democrats.
00:01:24.160 Hello, Governor Abbott. How are you, sir?
00:01:26.220 Glenn, I'm doing great. How are you doing?
00:01:29.520 Very good. Congratulations, first of all, on your your endorsement of Donald Trump for for governor of Texas.
00:01:38.400 Well, thank you very much. He called me yesterday to tell me about it and to visit with me.
00:01:43.320 He is in great spirits and he's fired up, ready to go.
00:01:48.300 And, you know, one thing that he and I have worked on together when he was president, but he's very excited about.
00:01:54.800 And that is everything that we are doing to secure the border.
00:01:57.660 I've got so much good news in the coming weeks to talk about what we're doing to better secure the border.
00:02:03.000 But also he's fired up and appreciates the effort that we're putting in to make sure that we achieve election integrity in the great state of Texas.
00:02:13.200 All right. So let's talk about that.
00:02:14.740 And I do want to touch on the border because I'd love to hear some good news.
00:02:18.200 Border Patrol agents say they see a three thousand percent increase in convicted sex offender arrests just in the Del Rio sector.
00:02:27.660 So I'd like to just touch on that. But let's let's go to what's happening with the the Texas statehouse with the the Democrats walking out.
00:02:38.060 Well, listen, if you go to any job, as some of your listeners are going to jobs as we speak right now, if they walked out on their job, that would be unacceptable.
00:02:48.440 And it's unacceptable in the state capitol also for people to walk out on the job.
00:02:53.760 They can stay in debate. They can vote against bills. They can do whatever they want to do.
00:02:57.660 But it's wrong just to leave your job. And that's why they will be coming back to finish up the job that they walked off of.
00:03:05.060 And that's why I'll be adding a special session in the coming days.
00:03:09.260 I'll make an announcement about when that special session will be.
00:03:12.040 And included on that special session agenda is going to be the law that they abandoned.
00:03:17.880 And that is to vote to ensure that we do have election integrity in Texas that will stop cheating and illegal voting in this state will make it easy to vote, but hard to cheat.
00:03:28.440 So what is this law? Because they're saying this is just draconian.
00:03:34.000 This is going to take away the rights of anybody who wants to vote other than for a Republican.
00:03:39.940 What is the law actually do?
00:03:43.280 This is hilarious because of the contrast of what picture is being painted by the Democrats in the mainstream media.
00:03:51.780 And that is what the law actually does. It increases, not decreases, the hours that people have to vote in the state of Texas based upon in comparison to state law.
00:04:05.140 What happened in the last election is Harris County alone, they decided they were going to create vote law in the state of Texas, which they have zero authority to do.
00:04:14.480 And they added 24 hour voting, which has never been authorized in state law, has never happened in the state of Texas.
00:04:21.520 And so, yes, we are going to limit 24 hour voting.
00:04:24.680 And let me tell you why. And that's because one component of Texas election law is to have poll watchers out there watching what's going on in the polls.
00:04:33.500 And we may not be able to have people at 2 a.m. or 3 a.m. out there watching the polls.
00:04:39.900 And that could lead to lack of integrity in the election process.
00:04:42.860 But if you compare it to pre-existing state law, we are adding hours.
00:04:48.140 But get this, Glenn, and that is, you know, they talk about the Texas law having voter suppression because of the limited hours, all that kind of stuff.
00:04:55.420 Well, let's compare Texas law to the law of the great state of Delaware, where Joe Biden voted in the election last election and voted in every election in the past.
00:05:05.300 And we have far more hours of voting in the state of Texas than they have in the state of Delaware.
00:05:11.780 So if people want to talk about hours of voting leading to voter suppression, people should be going after Delaware for voter suppression, not the great state of Texas.
00:05:19.920 Well, but you are against the souls for the polls, which I thought originally was, you know, the campaign to get dead people to vote for the Democrats.
00:05:32.560 But that is that is something where you can leave church and immediately go to vote.
00:05:40.100 But apparently the Democrats don't want that hour break in between.
00:05:45.580 I don't know why.
00:05:46.860 But why are we why are we saying, no, you have to wait until one o'clock on a Sunday?
00:05:52.760 A couple of things about that first is that pre-existing state law required a minimum number of hours to vote on that one Sunday during early voting.
00:06:06.320 And what SB 7 did, the new proposed election law in the state of Texas, it added an additional minimum requirement of hours on Sunday to go vote.
00:06:18.180 Then yesterday I heard something interesting I had not heard before, and that is there was a clerical error in which called the Legislative Council that drafted up the bill where it was Travis Clark, his name is, his state representative, saying that the error was it was supposed to be beginning at 11 o'clock, not beginning at one o'clock.
00:06:37.500 I don't know those details.
00:06:38.580 It's something that we're going to be looking into to find out the truth.
00:06:40.960 But bottom line is when the sun sets and all this, the souls of the polls, that's not going to be interrupted or whatsoever the case may be.
00:06:48.220 But the important thing for people to walk away from and know, and that is Texas actually added an additional minimum requirement for the number of hours for people to be able to vote on Sundays.
00:06:59.700 And everyone gets that fact wrong.
00:07:03.000 So they walked out because they're hoping that people are going to rise up and stand with them.
00:07:08.760 I don't see that happening.
00:07:10.600 Is there any consequence for them walking out other than having to come back to work?
00:07:16.400 Right now there is, because as you may have noticed, I vetoed the legislative budget.
00:07:22.700 So the legislature, I haven't vetoed it yet because it hasn't reached my desk, but I told the public I was going to veto what's called Article 10 of the Texas budget, and that funds the legislature.
00:07:33.780 And so they need to get back to work.
00:07:37.260 And they will have the chance to vote to reinstate their budget.
00:07:41.620 But people don't get paid for walking off the job.
00:07:44.200 They get paid for showing up for their job.
00:07:46.160 Okay, well, that's changing in America now as well.
00:07:51.580 But I'm glad that we're not changing here in Texas.
00:07:54.920 Border Patrol says 3,000% increase in convicted sex offender arrest in just the Del Rio sector.
00:08:02.700 We are pushing through, at this rate, about 2 million people through our border.
00:08:10.500 What is being done?
00:08:11.880 Because you're not hearing anything from the media or from the Biden administration.
00:08:19.500 Harris, Vice President Harris, is in charge of it.
00:08:23.340 Have you heard from her?
00:08:25.460 So during the entire episode, during the entire presidency of the Biden administration, haven't heard from the president, haven't heard from the vice president.
00:08:35.920 The only interaction, which is extremely minimal, involves Secretary Mayorkas.
00:08:41.540 But they have completely abandoned post as it concerns the Texas border.
00:08:46.660 So Texas is stepping up.
00:08:48.860 Let me tell you what we have done and what we are about to do.
00:08:51.580 What I did beginning in March is I deployed 1,000 Texas Department of Public Safety officers to the border.
00:08:58.980 I deployed the National Guard to the border.
00:09:01.060 And they have made well over 1,000 arrests of some of these criminals that you're talking about.
00:09:06.380 They've apprehended more than 33,000 illegal immigrants coming across the border.
00:09:11.200 But because of what you're saying, because of the way that the Biden administration has abandoned the border, we are now elevating our game.
00:09:18.700 What I did yesterday is in response to more than a dozen counties along the border, including the county in which Del Rio was in, which is Valverde County, I granted their request for a disaster declaration.
00:09:35.460 Typically, you see a disaster declaration by a governor respond to something like a hurricane or a flood or something like that.
00:09:41.140 This is the first time that I'm aware of where it was declared for a public safety disaster, a public safety disaster where you have the farmers and ranchers being overrun, their fences torn down, their cattle let out, their vehicles or the homes invaded.
00:09:56.160 Whatever the case may be, it's a total disaster as declared by these local counties that I agree to support.
00:10:03.520 And so what this will do, it will add additional Texas resources.
00:10:06.820 But Glenn is going to also add some new strategies that we are coming up with that I'll be talking with these local officials about next week.
00:10:14.140 And that is this. And that is we are going to step up and we're going to begin arresting everybody coming across the border and charging them with criminal trespass and putting them in jail.
00:10:27.280 They're coming here thinking they're going to get the Biden free ride and get to go wherever they want to go, not in the state of Texas.
00:10:33.460 We're going to start arresting them, riding left and putting them behind bars, telling them they came into the wrong state.
00:10:39.880 Let me explain one last thing about this, Glenn, because a lot of people are unclear about what I'm about to tell you, because some people say, well, why don't you just stop them from coming across the border or immediately send them back?
00:10:50.500 You may recall Jan Brewer, who was the former governor of Arizona, and when she was governor of Arizona, they passed a law that did say they had the authority to immediately stop people from coming across the border, that they did have the authority to send them back across the border.
00:11:07.280 That went all the way to the United States Supreme Court.
00:11:09.700 And in a case, the name of which was Arizona versus the United States, the United States Supreme Court said that anything about stopping people from coming across the border, anything about sending people back across the border, that authority was given solely to the federal government.
00:11:28.100 So with regard to stopping people from coming across the border, that's the federal government's job.
00:11:32.700 However, once they step foot in our state, we can arrest them for any crime that we can charge them with.
00:11:39.760 And when I declare a disaster like I have, what that automatically does, it increases a notch of the criminal violation.
00:11:48.020 So let's say that before yesterday, the criminal violation for trespass was either a Class C or Class B misdemeanor.
00:11:56.440 It's going to be going up to Class B or Class A misdemeanor, and the jail time will be longer.
00:12:01.720 However, the consequences will be more severe.
00:12:05.680 You are going to you're going to see cages again.
00:12:08.820 You're going to hear all of that.
00:12:10.280 Are you prepared for the the media onslaught of just Texas is a monster?
00:12:18.680 We're prepared to see a reduction in the number of people coming across the border because Texas is enforcing the law, period.
00:12:29.440 Good for you, Governor.
00:12:30.620 Thank you so much, Governor Greg Abbott from the great state of Texas.
00:12:38.180 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:12:40.920 Senator Mike Lee, there's about three in the Senate now that I trust and I think are fighting the good fight for the Constitution and not for politics.
00:13:01.340 Mike Lee is the chief among them.
00:13:04.080 Hello, Mike.
00:13:04.520 How are you?
00:13:05.980 Doing great.
00:13:06.860 Good to be with you, Glenn.
00:13:07.620 Good.
00:13:09.680 So tell me about the Endless Frontier Act, because it sure sounds great, Mike.
00:13:15.140 To me, it sounds dreadful and horrific in every single respect.
00:13:23.140 Look, first of all, consider the name Endless Frontier.
00:13:26.500 The two are sort of oxymoron.
00:13:27.840 They don't go together at all.
00:13:29.540 They've also rebranded this thing recently is the U.S. Innovation and Competition Act.
00:13:34.160 You got a brand of that.
00:13:35.340 It's not going to do what it says.
00:13:37.340 It creates a new directorate, a new technology directorate within the National Science Foundation.
00:13:45.500 It ends up throwing around about $200 billion, much of this going directly to the National Science Foundation.
00:13:52.200 People who have been known over time to spend millions of dollars studying such cutting-edge questions like,
00:13:59.240 how long does it take a panda bear to go to the bathroom?
00:14:02.680 And in this, they try to basically out-compete China at China's own game. 0.57
00:14:09.400 We're going to beat China by developing much more of a command and control authoritarian approach toward technology development and entrepreneurial spirit.
00:14:19.940 This is the China way of doing things. 0.95
00:14:22.760 This is how we lose.
00:14:24.900 We cannot and will not ever beat China at China's own game. 0.90
00:14:28.700 We have to beat China by playing our game better. 0.98
00:14:31.980 And our game involves free markets.
00:14:34.340 It involves civil society.
00:14:35.700 And it involves recognizing the proper role of government and leading government outside of everything else.
00:14:41.380 So this is, you remember the, if you will, the State of the Union speech that Joe Biden gave?
00:14:51.420 Beforehand, he talked to reporters and he said, you know, there's a great debate.
00:14:55.780 And I know which side I'm on, but there's a great debate right now on whether a democracy, something as great as ours,
00:15:04.700 can actually compete against Russia and China because they can move so much faster.
00:15:11.340 Basically, he was arguing for fascism or communism.
00:15:15.940 And this is the fruition of that.
00:15:19.180 This is the fruit of that question.
00:15:21.860 He didn't believe in the United States system.
00:15:25.200 He does believe in command and control.
00:15:28.200 And this is to what?
00:15:33.440 I mean, we all get together.
00:15:36.060 When I say we, the government minds get together and say, hey, we should develop, you know, this technology.
00:15:44.360 And then suddenly we do it.
00:15:47.120 Yeah.
00:15:48.080 Yeah.
00:15:49.120 Look, if this were happening in another country, this sort of approach to developing technology,
00:15:54.200 technology and economics and their ability to compete, if it were occurring in another country, we'd have words for those.
00:16:01.960 And I think you used a form of the word fascism a minute ago.
00:16:07.380 It's sort of the word we use when we see industry and government combining and saying we're going to make everything more efficient by developing a command and control economy.
00:16:17.600 And this, keep in mind, Glenn, is a country with the worst human rights record imaginable.
00:16:26.320 And yet we're going to try to be like them.
00:16:28.280 Look, my view is that we ought to decrease regulation and not invest in regulatory bodies.
00:16:34.660 Instead of chilling innovation and competition, we ought to decentralize power and champion trust in the private sector.
00:16:42.980 And we ought to simplify and cut taxes, not offshore our jobs.
00:16:47.920 We ought to use our critical minerals and not let them languish.
00:16:53.300 We need to partner with our allies and not restrict fair trade.
00:16:56.200 We need to harvest timber and not organs.
00:16:58.160 We need to value families and not diminish them.
00:17:02.240 And we ought to be encouraging entrepreneurship and not crony capitalism.
00:17:05.840 We ought to strengthen our markets, not government.
00:17:07.940 This does the opposite of all those things.
00:17:10.380 And we've got to defeat this.
00:17:13.160 So this is really the great reset.
00:17:15.860 I mean, this is part of that whole thing that's coming out of the, what is it, the Economic Council, the, Stu, help me out here, the Economic Forum out of Europe.
00:17:33.600 This is the idea.
00:17:35.280 It is fascism.
00:17:37.160 And it's a public-private partnership.
00:17:39.280 And the government picks the winners and the losers.
00:17:44.100 And, you know, you can get all kinds of help from the United States government if you're playing ball and you are creating the things they want people to create.
00:17:54.820 It is the definition of fascism.
00:17:58.600 And that sort of system, by the way, works out really well if you are wealthy and well-connected.
00:18:05.140 It works out not at all.
00:18:07.080 If you don't have friends in government and you're not already wealthy.
00:18:11.620 But this increases restrictions on entry.
00:18:14.860 This makes it impossible for the lean, mean, innovating machine who comes along with just a good idea.
00:18:20.620 Makes it very, very difficult.
00:18:22.620 And it does so in the guise of economic development, which is really, really sad.
00:18:28.760 This is going to be something that forever will tarnish, harm, and impair upward economic mobility, which has been one of the hallmark characteristics of our economic system.
00:18:42.300 So are there enough people in the Senate to call that will stand against this?
00:18:47.760 There are a growing number of senators who don't want to support this.
00:18:58.040 As of a week ago, this bill was looking very likely to pass.
00:19:03.280 We were afraid.
00:19:06.900 We had good reason to believe that it was going to pass by last Thursday.
00:19:11.220 A small handful of us decided to stay up all night and keep the Senate in session and keep debating on this to delay a vote.
00:19:18.380 We were able to delay the vote until this coming Monday.
00:19:22.100 But it's going to be a close vote.
00:19:25.340 It's not clear whether it will pass yet.
00:19:28.020 We can stop it.
00:19:29.860 Who are the senators that should be targeted with kind phone calls saying,
00:19:38.140 Hey, please, I know you're on the fence.
00:19:41.760 Do not support this bill.
00:19:43.840 You know, it is a safe way of putting it is communicate that to all senators, whether you're whether you have reason to believe that your senator might have have cast procedural votes in favor of this thing beforehand or not.
00:20:02.480 Just assume that they might otherwise be tempted to support it and you'll be safer because most members of the U.S. Senate have at one point or another expressed a degree of support for this.
00:20:13.420 Some of them are learning more about it.
00:20:15.180 So if everybody just communicates, we don't like this.
00:20:19.680 We're going to get a much better position.
00:20:21.400 You know, I know they reduce that.
00:20:22.560 I know they reduce the number.
00:20:24.600 They went from like a two hundred billion dollars to 20 billion.
00:20:28.440 This you can't even open this door.
00:20:31.260 You can't open the door.
00:20:33.520 Am I wrong?
00:20:35.600 Well, you're wrong that that this is a toned down version of this.
00:20:40.680 I mean, this thing's gotten bigger.
00:20:42.060 It's gotten more expensive, not less so.
00:20:44.840 But you are absolutely right that the minute you start to say we're going to start to be like China a little, that that means we're somehow going to become more efficient or that we're somehow going to become a system that's more friendly to the small time entrepreneur who doesn't have big connections in government and isn't already wealthy.
00:21:07.220 You can't open that door because the minute you open it, you're going down a path that's bad.
00:21:12.840 See, Glenn, this all focuses on a misapprehension about what government is.
00:21:17.980 Government doesn't have eyes to see you.
00:21:19.980 It doesn't have a heart to love you.
00:21:21.320 It doesn't have arms to embrace you.
00:21:23.060 Government is only one thing, and that's force.
00:21:25.260 Force and the ability to collect taxes through force.
00:21:29.720 Once we remember that feature, then we start to utilize government for that which only government can do to protect us, to protect life, liberty, and property.
00:21:38.160 And occasionally it can help us out with some public good type arrangements like roads.
00:21:45.020 But other than that, we need to keep government out because government doesn't do command and control economy well. 0.91
00:21:53.720 It's not a possibility.
00:21:55.600 This seems to presuppose that some of that is good, and it's not.
00:22:01.400 Let me change the subject here.
00:22:04.260 We had a hack into now one of our four meat processors.
00:22:13.360 It was JB, what is it, JB, I don't know, one of the big meat companies.
00:22:20.380 It's a quarter, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:22:22.300 It's a quarter of our meat production gone.
00:22:27.200 Now, they're getting back online after the cyber attack, which would imply to me that they've paid some sort of ransom.
00:22:33.080 If they can't, if the United States government can't keep the cyber criminals away from JBS or from, you know, the colonial pipeline, what good are they? 0.82
00:22:46.880 This is the thing they should be concentrating on.
00:22:49.660 This is their priority, according to the Constitution, is to keep us safe.
00:22:56.020 What should be done?
00:22:57.720 Because the responses that I have heard about getting rid of, you know, cryptocurrency and everything else is just a nightmare.
00:23:07.620 Yeah, look, I'm going to state a somewhat controversial opinion here, which is we've got far too much consolidation anyway in the meatpacking and processing industry.
00:23:25.620 Oh, thank God, yes.
00:23:28.040 The fact that that many people, that few people control like a fourth or a fifth of our meatpacking and meat processing industry in America is wrong.
00:23:41.420 And in fact, ties in somewhat indirectly, but closely nonetheless, to our previous conversation, which is when you force a federal regulatory system on the entire nation, even over things that shouldn't require that.
00:24:00.700 In other words, there's no reason why the meat inspectors that inspect the meat in Utah or Idaho have to be the same ones that inspect it in Texas or in New York shouldn't all have to go through a federal regulatory process.
00:24:18.260 If we didn't have that, and we allowed states and localities to do their own thing, there wouldn't be such a massive drive for consolidation.
00:24:25.380 If there weren't such a massive drive for consolidation, you wouldn't have as few points of vulnerability because you wouldn't have this kind of massive scale accumulation of market control.
00:24:37.560 This is independently concerning.
00:24:40.260 And I understand the cyber attack aspects of it are also very concerning.
00:24:47.060 Those have got to be dealt with.
00:24:48.960 But the free market itself has incentive to protect itself from that.
00:24:53.160 I don't necessarily want the government taking control of all companies' cybersecurity needs either, because it will do a bad job at that.
00:25:03.920 But at a bare minimum, Glenn, the federal government can stop creating a regulatory environment in which we end up with only a tiny percentage of a tiny number of meat processors and packers that control everything.
00:25:19.480 Yeah, well, I don't know if you've been following, but there's something really wrong in the meat industry with the processors.
00:25:28.360 The cattlemen are being screwed.
00:25:31.140 Meanwhile, the head of JBS says that, you know, meat's going to become very, very expensive, and that's why you're going to have to go to vegetable meat.
00:25:39.980 Well, they're one of the makers of vegetable beef, and I just think there is collusion and all kinds of incentive, and there's only four of them.
00:25:52.980 One is Chinese-owned.
00:25:55.280 This is crazy, and they are making profit like crazy while the farmers are being put out of business.
00:26:02.500 They can't make money raising beef anymore, and I just don't think it's a coincidence.
00:26:07.960 It's not.
00:26:11.460 When the federal government steps in, when it demands that everything be regulated by the government and that that government doing the regulating always has to be federal, it always creates market distortions.
00:26:21.420 Those market distortions lead to a sense of the accumulation of power in the hands of a few, and that, in turn, leads us to a very vulnerable position.
00:26:31.280 Will you back a bill to investigate these meatpacking companies?
00:26:36.380 Absolutely.
00:26:37.980 I know Grassley has signed on to one.
00:26:39.920 Yeah.
00:26:40.540 And do you trust the DOJ to be able to actually do that honestly?
00:26:47.120 I trust the DOJ to be able to do its work in a way that is either honest or that, if it's not honest, it'll be discernible to a handful of us who will watch that closely.
00:26:58.880 Mike, I'm grateful that you're in the Senate.
00:27:05.640 I know, because I know you, how many times you've thought, I can't do this anymore.
00:27:11.460 But I am grateful that you stand every single day, and you take every whip, and you dismiss it.
00:27:20.180 And I'm grateful for that.
00:27:21.540 Thank you.
00:27:22.240 Thank you, Glenn.
00:27:23.040 God bless.
00:27:23.480 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:27:31.080 So, Stu, let me bring you in to tell the story of poor little Kimmy Schmidt.
00:27:39.420 And I know you're as torn, you have to be, as torn on this story as I am.
00:27:46.500 Yeah, partially.
00:27:48.420 So, the story is, her name is Ellie Kemper.
00:27:51.280 She's an actress. 1.00
00:27:52.320 She was on The Office.
00:27:53.380 You remember her as Aaron on The Office.
00:27:55.760 I don't know.
00:27:56.640 She's, to me, like, it's the type of person that you just look at and are happy because you look at, like, just seeing her face makes me happy.
00:28:03.000 I don't know what it is.
00:28:03.800 Maybe it's just because I'm a big Office fan.
00:28:05.240 Right.
00:28:05.400 But, apparently, the internet has no such attachments.
00:28:10.280 No, there's nobody happy on the internet.
00:28:11.960 No, no.
00:28:12.840 Everybody's miserable.
00:28:13.660 And, like, we're like, gosh, I can't understand why we can't solve these problems.
00:28:17.200 Every time you go on to social media, everyone's awful.
00:28:19.580 I wonder what the cause could be.
00:28:23.220 It's a whole other rant.
00:28:25.140 But, so, Ellie Kemper, an actress, she is in trouble now, Twitter trouble.
00:28:31.820 She's about to be canceled. 0.98
00:28:32.940 In the midst of being canceled by not just Twitter, of course, but multiple large media organizations who have now decided to jump on this bandwagon.
00:28:43.180 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:28:44.360 Wait, she's in Twitter jail. 0.51
00:28:46.360 Has she done anything on Twitter?
00:28:48.460 No, nothing on Twitter.
00:28:49.400 Has she said anything on Twitter?
00:28:50.120 People are tweeting about her.
00:28:51.400 No, nothing on Twitter.
00:28:51.720 They have tweeted that she is the KKK princess.
00:28:56.200 She's the KKK princess? 1.00
00:28:58.600 Yeah.
00:28:58.740 Wow.
00:28:59.240 Yes.
00:28:59.620 And you get the types of headlines from, and you know, it's a very reliable source, the Daily Beast. 0.93
00:29:05.400 Yes, the office's Ellie Kemper was a beauty queen of a racist ball. 1.00
00:29:10.360 That's how it's being summarized.
00:29:12.420 So, the backstory is, she was crowned the queen of love and beauty at what sort of was referred to as the Veiled Prophet Fair.
00:29:29.040 And the Veiled Prophet Fair is something in St. Louis where, and it was created back in the 1870s, I believe.
00:29:36.600 Now, little known fact about American history, everything created in the 1870s was racist.
00:29:41.660 All things in the 1870s were racist.
00:29:45.220 At least, certainly.
00:29:46.220 Well, especially in the South.
00:29:47.600 Right.
00:29:48.020 In the South, most likely. 0.83
00:29:49.920 Certainly, as it applies to today's society, even the people we look at, you know, as civil rights heroes of the 1870s said things you would not feel comfortable saying today.
00:29:59.480 Yeah.
00:30:00.240 Yes, right.
00:30:01.120 Now, it does appear, by all accounts, that the early days of this particular fair were, it was created by very rich, white, powerful people, and many of them were racists.
00:30:13.020 There's some of the imagery of that time, again, in the 1870s, that was, I would say, looks, it's themed, seemingly themed towards the KKK.
00:30:25.820 Okay.
00:30:26.760 So.
00:30:27.380 Okay.
00:30:28.060 All right.
00:30:28.480 I don't think anyone is going back and saying, like, you know, what was a great, a great founding was the founding of this particular event.
00:30:36.280 I mean, it was looked, it's been looked at for a very long time as having a problematic history.
00:30:41.340 Now, over time, as we moved into, you know, the 20th century, it became to be a problem.
00:30:48.240 People started complaining about those sorts of themes.
00:30:51.240 And over, you know, eventually, black people became members of the organization, you know, later on, you know, in the 70s, you know, this is 20 years before Ellie Kemper was named the, the queen of love and beauty at this particular bar.
00:31:09.540 Right.
00:31:10.040 Yeah.
00:31:10.260 In fact, the name was changed.
00:31:12.340 Like, all of this is ancient history.
00:31:14.700 They changed the name to Fair St. Louis.
00:31:18.000 And Ellie Kemper in 1999 became the 105th girl, as she was 19 years old, to be given the title of, you know, to win this little fair.
00:31:30.480 Now, what started this controversy.
00:31:34.320 I watched her all these years and I didn't know she was a hidden clan member.
00:31:37.360 Yeah.
00:31:37.580 Yeah.
00:31:38.200 I had no idea.
00:31:39.080 You'll notice she was not alive in 1877.
00:31:42.180 Not alive in 1979.
00:31:43.400 Or so she says.
00:31:44.440 So she says.
00:31:45.460 Have you seen her birth certificate?
00:31:47.220 No, I haven't.
00:31:48.280 In fact, she may have been born, who knows, maybe in Kenya.
00:31:51.380 We don't know.
00:31:52.140 We're going to find that out later.
00:31:53.200 Exactly. 0.98
00:31:53.600 So, so what started this recent controversy, Glenn, is, you know, some idiot on Twitter, of course, tweeting that she was the KKK princess and referring to a 2014 Atlantic article. 0.97
00:32:07.000 An article in the Atlantic had excerpts from a book about this particular fair saying it was problematic. 0.96
00:32:13.380 You know, went through sort of a history of it.
00:32:16.240 Did not reference Ellie Kemper.
00:32:17.860 The story was not about Ellie Kemper, but basically said, like, this fair is not a good idea because it has a racist history.
00:32:23.600 Then someone digs up, hey, Ellie Kemper was the winner of this award at this fair.
00:32:29.860 And now Ellie Kemper equals racism, I guess, is how this thing works. 1.00
00:32:35.200 Now, all of the problems with this analogy.
00:32:39.340 She was 19 at the time.
00:32:42.280 She, it was, the fair was not even the same fair.
00:32:45.080 It was named something else.
00:32:46.720 She was not around in the 1870s.
00:32:50.040 She, it was not a KKK fair at the time.
00:32:53.120 There were black members who, for some reason, wanted to join this racist organization many years later.
00:33:01.860 Nothing points to the idea at all that she had any racist feelings, intent, and nothing like that at all is even, is even being assumed. 0.59
00:33:11.560 Really, what white America, the racist white America says every time you point out their hidden systemic racism, Stu.
00:33:23.460 Right. 0.78
00:33:24.480 Now, even the people cited in the article have come out and said, no, Ellie Kemper is not a racist.
00:33:32.860 There's no reason to believe she's a racist. 0.98
00:33:34.860 The people who said the fair was racist are saying, like, you don't understand this developed into a St. Louis tradition and it really had nothing to do.
00:33:43.680 Its roots were bad, but it was not like that at this point.
00:33:47.620 Also, most of the girls who participate in this particular event are not excited about it.
00:33:52.760 They're doing it for their dads.
00:33:53.900 Their dads have been, you know, maybe part of this organization for a while.
00:33:56.780 They're going along with racist.
00:33:58.400 These are the people who are saying the organization was racist at one time are saying this about her. 0.97
00:34:04.640 So, yeah, I think on its surface plays as a very typical, ridiculous cancel culture example. 0.93
00:34:13.560 Right. 0.93
00:34:13.780 There's no reason to believe Ellie Kemper is a racist. 1.00
00:34:17.340 She has never shown any signs of racism. 1.00
00:34:20.440 It is a completely nonsensical story based on some idiot tweeting something they knew nothing about. 0.99
00:34:27.520 And then the experts have come out and said, no, she's not racist. 1.00
00:34:31.880 This is not what to assume from this piece.
00:34:34.720 And just because this happened, what, 20 some years ago, you think that just washes away all of the racism that she clearly either knew or didn't know.
00:34:48.320 Uh, and either was or wasn't at the time.
00:34:52.000 You just think it just washes all of that guilt away.
00:34:54.740 First of all, there's no guilt.
00:34:56.300 She should not feel guilty about this.
00:34:58.480 Uh, but the secondary, secondary part, and of course, you know, I should say she should not feel guilt about this.
00:35:06.000 I will not be surprised at all if she is apologizing, though, by the end of the day.
00:35:10.720 We should be clear about that.
00:35:12.160 Of course she will be.
00:35:12.800 This is, of course, the way she's going to handle it.
00:35:14.380 Now, part of the reason I know she's going to handle it that way, or I believe she will, is because she's a big liberal.
00:35:20.680 I mean, she's no conservative.
00:35:22.740 She's a, she's a big liberal. 1.00
00:35:24.480 She's, you know, been all over talking about, you know, she's not like, I wouldn't say an incredibly politically active person, but has been every, every example you could find of her being political has been to the left.
00:35:36.820 Her parents were wealthy people from St. Louis and have some, you know, loose ties, supposedly, to some Republican policies, but she's not at all that way and is donated to like Black Lives Matter.
00:35:48.400 So that introduces you to the second layer of the story.
00:35:51.580 And I think part of it, which is interesting to our audience and how we react to it, because I think we would all agree on the surface.
00:35:58.640 Because Ellie Kemper is completely innocent here, and this is a blatantly terrible example of cancel culture. 1.00
00:36:06.040 On the other hand, there is certainly a part of me that sees someone who donates to Black Lives Matter, an organization that is actively creating this world that does these things to people all the time. 0.92
00:36:23.300 Cancels them, cancels them for nothing, all the time.
00:36:26.580 Right.
00:36:27.080 When you are on that side of the argument and you create and manifest this society in this way and cheer it on over and over and over again, are we really supposed to feel bad for you?
00:36:40.880 And I, you know.
00:36:41.680 Right, are we supposed to, are we supposed to get up and help you?
00:36:46.140 And then, but there's a bigger part of me, Stu, that just says, isn't it time to have some ice cream?
00:36:51.900 Right.
00:36:53.300 It's like, you know, Pat says this every once in a while, Pat Gray from Pat Gray Unleashed.
00:36:58.280 He says, I just love it when liberals eat their own. 0.98
00:37:03.580 And like, you know, I go back and forth on this because I can feel, you know, there's that sort of, I don't know, instinct, animal instinct inside of you to say, screw her. 0.98
00:37:16.100 You know, she helped build this and screw her. 1.00
00:37:18.600 She's going to have to, she made this bed. 0.98
00:37:20.160 She's going to have to lie in it. 0.98
00:37:21.300 But on the other hand, I think the right thing to do, the right thing to do is to say that she's not a racist because you know what?
00:37:30.080 She's not.
00:37:30.680 And there's no reason to believe that she is.
00:37:33.940 This thing is bigger, though, than this left-right thing that we talk about all the time, Glenn, in that, like, you know, look, they go after the left on this stuff, too, constantly.
00:37:41.520 Right.
00:37:42.720 What comes to mind is the old saying, liberals can't live with them.
00:37:49.860 Seriously, isn't it about time to get some ice cream?
00:37:54.160 Seriously.
00:37:54.780 I mean, is that the official Glenn Beck position?
00:37:58.680 No, my official position is we should support her because this is crazy because we make we make no ground.
00:38:08.860 We make no friends.
00:38:10.140 And I'm not saying we're going to make friends, but we make no friends by just throwing her under the bus.
00:38:17.000 We are not taking the higher ground.
00:38:19.520 So they just continue to think that we're monsters.
00:38:23.420 And that's fine.
00:38:24.600 You don't do it for that reason.
00:38:26.480 You do it because if I don't stand for the person who I who I really abhor their positions, if I don't stand for them, nobody's going to stand for me.
00:38:38.180 Nobody will stand for me.
00:38:39.560 Yeah.
00:38:39.860 I think morally, I don't want to be a part of that culture.
00:38:44.180 Morally, I think it's unquestionable.
00:38:45.900 The right thing to do is right.
00:38:47.760 But if you take the morals out of it for a second, because, you know, this is America in 2021.
00:38:53.740 That is a problem.
00:38:55.880 Listen to what you just said.
00:38:57.160 I know.
00:38:57.620 Morally, it's clear, clear.
00:38:59.540 But let's take the morals out for a second.
00:39:02.100 I will say a lot of times I only say that because I don't think that always wins the argument anymore.
00:39:07.400 There was a time, I think, where you could just say, like, this is blatantly the right thing to do.
00:39:11.520 And whatever the consequences are, screw it.
00:39:13.240 You do it anyway.
00:39:14.280 I don't think that's where America is these days.
00:39:16.100 So let me make a pragmatic argument for it as well.
00:39:19.560 When we come out and we the left comes up with a ridiculous standard, like let's just cancel everyone for saying something that isn't racist because we can come up with some bizarre justification that it is.
00:39:32.580 And we think that's a bad standard.
00:39:34.780 We complain about the standard and it keeps getting applied to us.
00:39:38.020 Then it gets applied to the other side and we say, OK, well, you guys made the rules.
00:39:43.660 Therefore, we're going to apply them to you.
00:39:46.000 What we're admitting there is we're allowing them to make the rules.
00:39:49.520 We are codifying their terrible standard by enforcing it on both sides instead of fighting the standard.
00:39:57.240 And I think the standard is what needs to go down here.
00:39:59.360 Not Ellie Kemper. 0.98
00:40:00.640 No one care.
00:40:01.340 I mean, look, I like Ellie Kemper.
00:40:02.900 I'm a fan of her, but like there's no huge political win in losing Ellie Kemper from the left. 1.00
00:40:09.800 She's just an actress. 1.00
00:40:11.420 I, you know, I am much more interested in convincing people who are winnable that this cancel culture standard is ridiculous.
00:40:21.060 And sometimes examples from the left help win those people in the middle over easier than just defending your own side.
00:40:28.160 I think taking that stand is an important thing to do.
00:40:30.460 Na na na na na na na na.
00:40:40.560 Na na na na na na na na.
00:40:41.000 Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na nadefined na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na naanna na na na na na na na na na na na na